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Speaker 5: Tellison the mound. Why don't you over to hear pvery

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Speaker 6: It was onsa America.

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Speaker 2: It was great to see you on Monday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I didn't get no fried chicken. I'm heart brought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was no fried chicken. Oh there was.

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Speaker 6: Us roll darling, I didn't date drive.

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Speaker 6: No COVID here, dear God, don't let it come.

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Speaker 6: That was my first bout with it. I think I

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Speaker 1: No, it has to be transferred from another person, Lynette.

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Speaker 5: Yes it does.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 1: If you if you're exposed now, you don't get transferred

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Speaker 2: It's all it's rest.

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Speaker 6: And then something about if you don't dig in your nose,

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Speaker 2: So you don't you don't dig in your nose?

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Speaker 6: Do you never did?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you do, make sure you pick a winner.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I got to meet music professor. You did

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Speaker 2: At a bridal show.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, he.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you can imagine how it might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, baby, we love you.

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Speaker 1: We got a roll any take care all right, you too, bye,

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to him.

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Speaker 1: for Saturday, December twenty seventh, twenty twenty five, closing out

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Speaker 1: I'm Gary Jeff Walker, and you can call me Gary,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Dave.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doing fine if Liam ever turns the volume up

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Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what. Those folks from Dorothy Lane

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the birthday cake. It finally got eaten.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, Hey, Dave, Dave, Dave. What do you call

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Speaker 8: There are you?

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Speaker 7: How does the lifeguard get to work?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: He carpolls, Jeff, what kind of opera stars? Things in

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Speaker 7: I'd be a so brano.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Dave. Did you say soap brano?

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Speaker 2: So prano? Yes, sir, that's what I thought you said.

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Speaker 2: Go on, please yep.

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Speaker 7: So, here's the question. If we breathe. If we breathe

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Speaker 7: Well, I guess would be nitrogen.

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Speaker 2: Dave, Yes, Dave, how was your wife.

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Speaker 7: She's snoring up a storm even as we speak.

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Speaker 1: Did you say she's smelling up a storm, snoring snoring

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Speaker 9: Jokes told by Dave from Harrison are not necessarily considered

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Speaker 1: Told Liam I wanted to play this, I slid it

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Speaker 1: reception report on this early Saturday morning, our friend Rick

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Speaker 1: Washburn Al radio, Rick, good morning, how are you receiving us?

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Gary, Jeff.

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Speaker 10: I'm receiving you with a little bit of guilt. I

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Speaker 10: must haven't pretty plowed at your birthday. I'm glad that

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Speaker 10: Dick from Dayton enjoyed our talk, but I don't remember

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I didn't want to break it to

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Speaker 10: Weren't here, and I know he's not listening, so I say.

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Speaker 1: No, no, he's calling someone else. He's calling Ron Wilson

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Speaker 1: It's just his chance to shine again somewhere else.

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Speaker 10: God last fifteen minutes of fame every three hours that

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Speaker 10: you need it or not. Oh gosh, hey, you're coming

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Speaker 10: in five y five. A shout out to Neil as

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Speaker 10: I'm listening to on a Traveler nineteen thirty eight AM

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Speaker 10: shorty radio model unknown. But this radio was also sold

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Speaker 10: by Spiegel.

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Speaker 2: Stories, model model unknown.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't have a model number on it. But the

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Speaker 10: by the Spiegel Catalog. And if you were a kid

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 10: For those playing at home, look for this Beegel Model

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Speaker 10: It's a five to two radio with both am in

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Speaker 10: a short a smell short wave band, but it still works,

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Speaker 10: and a gorgeous wood cabinet. And I love this specific

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Speaker 10: radio that Neil loans, not just because it's gorgeous and

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Speaker 10: the braining issue makes it unique, but because while it

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Speaker 10: all five original Raytheon tubes and the radio tubes Onlike

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Speaker 1: But I knew somebody who had their tubes engraved and

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Speaker 10: I'm sure that's something very different. Yeah, well, let's go

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Speaker 7: Sure alive?

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Speaker 10: In performance? It says, over a cartoon picture of a

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Speaker 10: fellow with a Vincent Price mustache holding a microphone that

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Speaker 10: seems to be shooting lightning bolts into a young woman's face. Okay,

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Speaker 10: Something new in home radio, A new design in cabinet

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Speaker 10: sell itself an appearance, performance, and price. It goes on

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Speaker 10: in shortwave reception. I don't think they have really mentioned

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Speaker 10: what was new in home radio with this. I wonder

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Speaker 1: But if it sells itself, then they just should show

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Speaker 1: don't need all the verbiage to describe why I would

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Speaker 1: turn it on and it'll it'll fly off the shelves.

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Speaker 10: I would I would like the classic, like the classic.

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Speaker 10: This man needs no introduction. But here's his name, his bios,

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Speaker 10: his resume, right exactly.

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Speaker 1: I actually am guilty of that from time to time

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Speaker 1: we all are. So, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 10: Overall?

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Speaker 10: My good for Christmas? I got my good old friend

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Speaker 10: aphib back. So oh short of breath, but I'm doing okay.

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Speaker 10: It'll hopefully it passes. Otherwise they'll throw the paddles on

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope there's no.

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Speaker 10: With all this equipment down here, could shock myself, I

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Speaker 10: I've got the big knife switch from one of the

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Speaker 1: And your hair would look like Madeline CON's in like

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Speaker 10: It wouldn't be an improvement, don't you think?

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Speaker 1: I think you got a good mop on top of

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Speaker 1: your head. Old radio Rick at gmail dot com if

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Speaker 1: you'd like to get in touch with mister Washburn and

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Speaker 2: It's six eighteen at seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: Liam and I were just talking about the NBA and

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Speaker 1: I never really we never really talk about it because well, frankly,

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Speaker 1: But Liam, you know, he's a hoopster. He digs the league,

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Speaker 1: the National Basketball Association. We're talking about. What's the guy

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Speaker 2: Jokis Nicola Jokic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Niccolo Jokic the other night had fifty six points

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry's record of points in overtime. Which I mean,

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Speaker 1: You're doing something right.

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Speaker 3: And Brook Lopez thirty seven years old, dropping thirty one

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Speaker 2: How about that again. I really don't really.

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Speaker 1: I could even shoot a free throw anymore. You still

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Speaker 1: in your lifetime, especially Oh yeah, absolutely, Like I said

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Speaker 1: Even a bad NFL game is better than a great

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Speaker 3: Speaking in the NFL today four pm, Texans Chargers facing

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Speaker 3: off two playoff bound teams. In the nightcap, Baltimore and

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Speaker 3: both games on Fox Sports thirteen sixty's starting at four

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Speaker 3: pm and then eight to fifteen. Tomorrow afternoon, the Bengals

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Speaker 3: play Cincinnati hosts the Arizona Cardinals. Premium coverage begins at

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Speaker 3: nine point five. Kick is sept for one pm here

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Speaker 3: on the Home of the Best Bengals Coverage seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase talking about how he needs to get in

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Speaker 3: the end zone in his press conference this week. It's

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Speaker 3: been since the middle of October since he's scored six.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, especially since the Bengals really don't have

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Speaker 1: anything to play for. It is time for individual accolades,

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Speaker 1: isn't it. Jamar last season, I mean, he put up

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Speaker 1: all those numbers. He's got to keep it up this year.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: Last year was one of Joe Burrow's best years, I mean,

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Speaker 1: not his best year of his career, and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: still didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to make the playoffs this year.

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Speaker 1: Had to suffer through watching my Kansas City Chiefs just

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Speaker 1: absolutely stink up the place and lose to Denver the

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Speaker 1: other night. I don't know. I'm just I'm hoping for

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Speaker 1: a good game. If I can see a good NFL,

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Speaker 1: competitive NFL game, I don't care who's playing.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see that.

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Speaker 1: We won't see that more than likely with Arizona and

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Speaker 1: the Bengals tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Arizona, we got the Arizona Snoop Dogg Bowl,

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Speaker 3: and we're talking football. Miami Ohio Tuck Martin squad face

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Speaker 3: off against Fresno State that is at four point thirty

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Speaker 3: in the Texas Bowl. LSU Houston kicks off at nine

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Speaker 3: to fifteen. Military Ball at eleven am. Pittsburgh faces East

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Speaker 3: Carolina Pinstrike Bowl Clemson and Penn State. That game is

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Speaker 3: at one pop Tards Bowl. Twelfth ranked BYU and twenty

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Speaker 3: second ranked wards. They really spray sprinkles into the end zone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Pop Tards Bowl has gotten bigger every year. You know,

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Speaker 3: the first year he came out of the toaster, he died.

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Speaker 3: They ate the pop Tart the live mascot. Okay, very

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Speaker 3: kind of sacrilegious. It was really insane, it's according to

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Speaker 3: some people. But it's very interesting, the growth of the

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Speaker 3: Pop Tarts Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I think it's all. Uh, it's something to watch.

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Speaker 1: Well, we wait for the main entree on New Year's

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Speaker 1: Eve and New Year's Day, and I'm excited about next

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Speaker 1: week and the college football playoff six twenty six. Now

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Speaker 1: a better class of losers. I think they're all winners.

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Speaker 1: And they're right now sitting back in the bar on

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Speaker 1: Main Street and Ripley at Brookies. How now Brown County

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Speaker 1: waiting to uh, well, do what we do on Saturday mornings.

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Speaker 2: The gang, Good morning gang, good morning. Wow. We got

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Speaker 2: two today?

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Speaker 8: Three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah there, how about that? How about that? So the

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Speaker 1: cooks still out, the cook still.

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Speaker 11: Out of jail, seet out of jail probation.

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Speaker 2: That's wonderful.

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Speaker 11: I am so glad you got pizza and stuff.

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Speaker 10: Now it's good.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you've got a Brookies rehab program. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: any who had any big plans for the New.

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Speaker 7: Year, Well, yeah, you're part of them. That'll be Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, we're not inviting everybody to your house, are we.

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Speaker 1: No, I'll tell anybody I was gonna say, I can

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Speaker 1: give out the address if you like.

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Speaker 11: Well, there's no Queen of Hearts, there's no band scheduled,

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Speaker 11: there's no not a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: But well good.

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Speaker 1: But if you're if you're you know, going out on

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve and you're in Ripley, why not go

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Speaker 1: to Brookies. I mean, it's it's one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: bar nights of the year, isn't it here? So you're

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Speaker 1: saying to bring it in people travel out of Brown

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Speaker 1: County to celebrate, right.

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Speaker 10: Because No, it's really not that busy down here.

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Speaker 1: Well, and and the wonderful thing is, and the thing

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Speaker 1: that's surprising about that is that you can pretty much

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Speaker 1: drink and drive you have no police force.

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Speaker 2: I don't recommend it.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying that anyone should ever anywhere, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, probably harder.

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Speaker 2: To get your car, harder.

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Speaker 12: To get home pretty much.

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Speaker 10: Get the local st walking anyway.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, so.

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Speaker 1: Oh had a fantastic time Monday. That was great to

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Speaker 1: see you up here the oil bear in a Brown County.

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Speaker 7: That's horful about it. I always wanted to see the studio.

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Speaker 1: Well you, Darren, you're You're invited anytime you want to

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Speaker 1: make it up. Okay, Well, just you text me and

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Speaker 1: let me know and I'll let you in. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know people. Uh, have we got a weather fore

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Speaker 1: cash Harry real quick?

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Speaker 7: Oh we do.

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Speaker 12: It's going to be really warm tomorrow, maybe break a record,

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Speaker 12: maybe seventy, but it's going to be gluey, I think, rainy,

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Speaker 12: but then it goes down. Hell on Monday, I heard that,

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Speaker 12: I heard that you could. I want to wish all

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Speaker 12: the guys I didn't get to see in gowns and

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Speaker 12: Miss Lynette and all that. I wish I could have

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Speaker 12: been there for the party, But I won't wish them

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Speaker 12: all a happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: God, love you guys, and we'll see you on New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve, all right. The gang at Brookies in Ripley

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Speaker 1: this morning. It's six forty one. It's seven utter wlw

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Speaker 1: at six forty four on this Saturday morning. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Alan and Norwood, we just called an inquired of the

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Speaker 1: people in Ripley at Brookies at the bar are drunk?

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Speaker 1: I would say no, unless you're referring to Buzz or

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Speaker 1: Matt Miller, then quite possibly, and neither one were there

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Speaker 1: this morning, so not to worry allan, it is rather early.

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Speaker 1: My grandparents had a little clock in their basement on

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Speaker 1: the little bar top they had, and it said no

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Speaker 1: drinks till after five, and there were nothing but fives

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Speaker 1: all the way around the clock. Anyway, that's you didn't

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Speaker 1: need predictions. They're huge this time of year. As we

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Speaker 1: embark on a brand new calendar, predictions for twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: could they nearer predictions that have been made famously before.

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Speaker 1: To discuss our friend Steve from met In, Ohio with

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Speaker 1: predictions for the future of the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: What there is?

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Speaker 13: Good morning, Good morning, Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 13: You know, here's a quote.

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Speaker 7: I would call.

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Speaker 13: This a very interesting prediction. A democracy cannot exist as

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Speaker 13: a permanent form of government. Okay, it can only exist

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Speaker 13: until the majority discovers that can vote its largess out.

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Speaker 2: Of the public treasury.

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Speaker 13: After that the majority always votes for the candidate promising

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Speaker 13: the most benefits, with the result the democracy collapses because

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Speaker 13: of the loose fiscal policy, ensuing always to be followed

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Speaker 13: by a dictatorship, then a monarchy. And I thought about

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Speaker 13: this this week. We talked about this a couple of

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Speaker 13: years ago. He ends with then a monarchy, and I thought, wow,

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Speaker 13: that's really interesting. Now we're talking about kings, aren't we

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Speaker 13: in our protests. The earliest known attribution of that quote

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Speaker 13: was October the twentieth, nineteen forty eight, and what appears

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Speaker 13: to be an op ed piece in the Daily Oklahoman

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Speaker 13: under the byline Elmer T.

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Speaker 10: Peterson.

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Speaker 13: It was called this is the hardcore of freedom. Let's

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Speaker 13: talk about Elmer for a second. Elmer Theodore Peterson was

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Speaker 13: born in eighteen eighty four in Algona, Iowa. Oh Good

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Speaker 13: people seemed to come from Iowa. He died in nineteen

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Speaker 13: sixty nine in Mendocino, California. Prominent author, newspaperman in Kansas

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Speaker 13: and Oklahoma, editor of Better Homes and Gardens for ten

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Speaker 13: years from twenty seven to thirty seven. Associate editor of

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Speaker 13: The Daily Oklahoma in Oklahoma City circa twenty years until

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Speaker 13: nineteen sixty two. In his retirement, he graduated from Bethany

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Speaker 13: College in West Virginia. Now some say he may have

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Speaker 13: lifted this idea from this quote in nineteen forty three.

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Speaker 13: The historical cycle seems to be from bondage to spiritual faith,

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Speaker 13: from spiritual faith to courage, from courage to liberty, from

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Speaker 13: liberty to abundance, and abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to apathy,

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Speaker 13: from apathy to dependency, and from discent to dependency back

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Speaker 13: to bondage once more. So I got to thinking about that,

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Speaker 13: and you said something right at the top of the show,

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Speaker 13: and you always come on board with some fascinating stuff.

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Speaker 13: The ten years that the Soviets spent in Afghanistan, and

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Speaker 13: of course they walked out with their tail between their legs,

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Speaker 13: so we decided why not twenty and of course we

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Speaker 13: came home without a victory. I was thinking about that

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Speaker 13: compared to Vietnam and talking about, you know, predictions. Bernard

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Speaker 13: Fall was a French journalist who was in Vietnam for

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Speaker 13: a long time. He served with the French forces as

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Speaker 13: a newspaperman. The French were driven out of Vietnam in

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Speaker 13: nineteen fifty four at the Envan Foo. The Americans within

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Speaker 13: two years decided let's try this. I don't think the

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Speaker 13: French did it right. If you read Bernard falls book

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Speaker 13: Street Without Joy, you'll really really understand how questionable it

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Speaker 13: probably was that we just marched right in afterwards. So

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Speaker 13: predictions are kind of interesting. Listen to some of them,

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Speaker 13: we don't listen to others. Some of them are de

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Speaker 13: course ridiculous. Others have a tinge of truth that turns

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Speaker 13: into a mighty truth later.

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Speaker 10: Well, I hope.

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Speaker 13: That twenty twenty six, and I've heard a lot of

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Speaker 13: predictions so far, turns out well for all of us. Gary, Jeffyu,

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Speaker 13: your family love this show on Monday, and the United

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Speaker 13: States of America my country. Take care of yourself and

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Speaker 13: enjoy the weekend.

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Speaker 2: God blessed.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Steve, thank you very much. Odds that

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Speaker 1: Steve mentions Vietnam. I had an author on my Nightcap

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Speaker 1: show this past Tuesday named James Bradley is a New

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Speaker 1: York Times bestselling author, and his new book is called

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Speaker 1: Precious Freedom about Vietnam. He lived in Vietnam for ten

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Speaker 1: years to interview Vietnamese and to the Vietnamese it wasn't

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Speaker 1: North versus South.

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Speaker 2: It was a.

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Speaker 1: Vietnamese against Us. And that's why he says it mostly

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Speaker 1: was a failed exercise. And I would say Afghanistan clearly

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Speaker 1: goes in that category as well, no matter the reason.

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Speaker 1: We were as a seventeen year old in Middle Tennessee

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight and a candy apple red Grand

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Speaker 1: Prix with tea tops that belonged to my father. I

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Speaker 1: got to go pick up my girlfriend in Goodletsville, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: and that was playing on the radios. I pulled into

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Speaker 1: her driveway and there she is sitting on the front

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Speaker 1: porch waiting for me in these pink terry cloth baby

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Speaker 1: soft tank top and shorts. And it's about one hundred

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Speaker 1: and three outside in the summer in Middle Tennessee. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure our friend here, Ray Scott, remember those days

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Speaker 1: in Middle Tennessee. Uh, if not in the late seventies,

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Speaker 1: in the early eighties. How you doing, brother, Ray? How

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Speaker 1: are you?

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Speaker 7: Good morning?

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Speaker 14: Good morning Gary, Jeff my friend or as that nice

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Speaker 14: lady referred to you last Saturday morning, the sugar lips, Yeah, Pat, Pat,

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Speaker 14: Bless her heart. My grandmother used to always say to us,

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Speaker 14: we were a kids, she'd say, come over here, honey,

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Speaker 14: child and give me some sugar. Yeah, have to remind

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Speaker 14: me of that. So, yes, sir, the uh the old

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Speaker 14: vinyl seat days, you know, going to Florida to relatives

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Speaker 14: homes in the vehicle with no air in vinyl seats

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Speaker 14: and you'd fall asleep and you'd have this big crease

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Speaker 14: in your face from the vinyl seats.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So what's on your mind

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Speaker 2: this morning? Brother?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 14: Listen, I uh, you know, I'm going to first off,

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Speaker 14: put a disclaimer out out here because this is uh

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Speaker 14: information that I uh, I think it's worth regifting and

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Speaker 14: uh and I heard it at a Christmas service. Uh

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Speaker 14: that was in Washington, d C. It was televised at

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Speaker 14: a Catholic Mass, and I thought he was worthy of

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Speaker 14: a repeat. And that is this, you know, the topic

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Speaker 14: of regifting, of which I think we've all done it

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Speaker 14: on occasion, and we've done it with love and and

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Speaker 14: that the one gift and that the really the greatest

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Speaker 14: could be the greatest gift given to us, that the

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Speaker 14: giver that gives it to us almost definitely calls us

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Speaker 14: to regift, and that give is love and God came

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Speaker 14: in the flesh, and he is love. So I think

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Speaker 14: it's early to make uh result's dog on it, but

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Speaker 14: it's really not. It's the twenty seventh. So I'll be

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Speaker 14: the first one in line to do my very best

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Speaker 14: in twenty twenty six to be a regifter. And I

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Speaker 14: invite all of our friends and listeners, let's do our

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Speaker 14: best to be regifters. I can new year to you, brother,

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Speaker 14: God bless you.

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Speaker 2: I'd bless you.

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Speaker 1: No greater gift than the gift that God gave us

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Speaker 1: in Jesus Christ, both his birth, his death, and his resurrection.

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Speaker 1: And that is ultimately what love truly is all about.

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Speaker 1: And as Ray said, if we can attempt, in our

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Speaker 1: feeble human way to regive that gift to the people

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Speaker 1: around us, then maybe we're accomplishing something. Into another hour

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Speaker 1: of this Saturday Morning edition for Saturday, December twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, how you doing, Gary, Jeff by your

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Speaker 1: side on your radio on a Saturday morning, just like

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Speaker 1: the Good Lord intended?

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Speaker 2: Apparently, because I mean, if not, why is it happening

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Speaker 2: at all? That's the question really.

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Speaker 1: About six minutes past the hour seven oh six Eastern

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Speaker 1: that is on this last Saturday of the year, and

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Speaker 1: look forward to these conversations every Saturday morning. I find

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Speaker 1: them informative. I hope you do too when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the environment. After all, he is an environmental engineer,

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Speaker 1: even in retirement. You know, you can take the man

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Speaker 1: out of environmental engineering, but you can't take the environmental

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Speaker 1: engineering out of the man. Steve Shulte, who just had

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Speaker 1: a birthday on Wednesday, Happy birthday, my friend, belated.

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Speaker 11: Happy birthday, Gary Jeff. A happy and blessed new year

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Speaker 11: for you and all your kins.

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Speaker 1: And you as well, sir, this morning, as you said

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Speaker 1: when you text me, one of our favorite topics the

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Speaker 1: early shutdown of another boone doggles solar project. And by

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00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: the way, thanks to President Trump, these ridiculous wind farms

709
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: are at least at a pause right now in the

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Speaker 1: ocean right the burden whale killers. But tell me about

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00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: this boondoggle solar project as three Mile Island just fired

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Speaker 1: up again in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for Steve?

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 11: Just comes from a Newslayer I get the Access to

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Speaker 11: Energy for September of twenty twenty five, Although the article

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Speaker 11: actually comes from the Institute for Energy Research in October

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Speaker 11: of this year. Next year, the identhaul solar power facility

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Speaker 11: will be shutting down for good. This is the article

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Speaker 11: is called California shuts down at solar thermal plant thirteen

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Speaker 11: years early. This boondoggle was built between twenty ten and

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Speaker 11: twenty fourteen at a cost of two point two billion,

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Speaker 11: that's billion with a B of this one point six

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Speaker 11: billion was paid with taxpayer of taxpayer government grant approved

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Speaker 11: by the Obama regime, advertised as the latest technology that

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Speaker 11: would help us from quote unquote global warming and built

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Speaker 11: near the California Nevada border. The facility uses one hundred

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Speaker 11: seventy three thousand, five hundred computer controlled mirrors to focus

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Speaker 11: sunlight onto three four hundred and sixty foot towers. This

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00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 11: covered five square miles of desert, so think the five

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Speaker 11: square miles just roughly two and a quarter mile by

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Speaker 11: two and a quarter miles square. It also required the

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Speaker 11: relocation of the endangered desert tortoise. Amazing to concentray the energy,

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Speaker 11: heats up water to produce steam and that to generate electricity.

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Speaker 11: And this is the steam technology. There is just very

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Speaker 11: you know, very well grunted science, so fantastic to make electricity,

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Speaker 11: but when you're using solar power to do it, it

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Speaker 11: just didn't work. In fact, the plant resorted to heating

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Speaker 11: to supplement heating of the water with natural gas in

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Speaker 11: order to generate enough decent amount of energy. It was

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Speaker 11: also well known for frying birds. When you concentrate sunlight

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Speaker 11: and beam it toward a power result in a nice beam,

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Speaker 11: and it cooked anything in its path. It's rather like

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Speaker 11: leaving Star Wars laser weapon on all the time. Awarding

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Speaker 11: the Association of Avian Veterinarians, at least six thousand birds

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Speaker 11: per year were pried. Of course, the company made plenty

747
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Speaker 11: of money slices of the one point six billion dollars

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Speaker 11: and tax Their subsidies were distributed to everybody involve. And

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Speaker 11: now it's a decade later, and it's time to shut down,

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Speaker 11: to move on to other ways to grab our tax money.

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Speaker 1: Now yeah, now, now that they've stolen the money, it's

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Speaker 1: time to shut it down.

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Speaker 7: Gosh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 11: It goes on to say, essentially rational clinic critics at

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Speaker 11: the time the plant was built were actually wrong. They

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00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 11: were right the design was impractical, but they missed the point.

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00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 11: The purpose of the project was to distribute tax money

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Speaker 11: and score political points for the Obama regime, not generate electricity,

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00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 11: and pretty much that can be said for pretty much

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Speaker 11: every quote unquote green energy project we have today. It's

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Speaker 11: not about generating electricity, it's about distributing our tax money

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Speaker 11: to everybody. Yeah, so historically the state has not fared

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Speaker 11: well picking winners and losers. The same to be said

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Speaker 11: said about green energy projects relying on taxpayer subsidies.

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Speaker 1: So hold on, let me, let me get this straight.

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Speaker 1: Steve Yep, they had to relocate the desert tortoise for this,

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Speaker 1: this solar boondoggle.

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Speaker 11: But you got to realize, you put these mirrors up

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Speaker 11: of five square miles, you basically make it all shape.

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Speaker 11: But but but.

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Speaker 1: They also wouldn't they wouldn't let the water flow into

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Speaker 1: the reservoirs because they were worried about some fish in

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Speaker 1: the Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 2: And so so.

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Speaker 1: They weren't worried about the desert tortoise. Well, we can

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Speaker 1: just move that, but but they were worried about the

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Speaker 1: little fish. And that's why all those people's houses burned

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Speaker 1: in the Palisade fires. Yeah, there are no water in

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Speaker 1: the hydrants, but.

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Speaker 11: Come on, California, remember you gotta remember that there this

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Speaker 11: project was fighting man made catastrophic climate change. Of course

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Speaker 11: we can, we can move the tortoises Gee.

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Speaker 1: Kind of sounds like the BLM riots where they weren't

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Speaker 1: they weren't required to wear masks during COVID because that

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00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: was a great cause. It's I mean, the hypocrisy never ends.

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Speaker 1: My friend, Happy New Year. We'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had a great birthday and Christmas. It's

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Speaker 1: twelve minutes past the hour now, seven hundred WLW late tonight,

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Speaker 1: still warm. Tomorrow times. Square ball that drops for New

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00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: Year's Eve to celebrate to bring in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: will be red, white and blue to celebrate America's two

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Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth birthday, of course, coming up in July

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Speaker 1: of this year. We're just about there, two hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: How many more do we have left? That's the real question.

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Speaker 1: Don't have the answer, But I do have some Tom

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00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: Davis diaries to share with you, wild wacky stories.

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Speaker 2: I call these the.

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Speaker 1: And our corresponding all your long Tom Davis, who calls

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Speaker 1: these together and reports them to you as standing with

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Speaker 1: the last.

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Speaker 15: Good morning, Gary, Jeff, this week no more on camera

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00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 15: nose picking. But first to Thailand we go, where an

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Speaker 15: American man is accused of cheating on a curry eating contest.

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Speaker 15: He was allegedly caught on camera stuffing rice in his

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 15: pants pockets with five minutes to go that night, he

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00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 15: was declared the winner after eating seventeen and a half

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Speaker 15: pounds of curry for a grand prize of seven hundred dollars.

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Speaker 15: Bangkok's Gold Curry eatery, where the treachery allegedly took place,

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00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 15: is apparently calling the man out on social media, demanding

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Speaker 15: their money back. Closer to home, in Trumbull County, Ohio,

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Speaker 15: cops are pulling over Amish drunk drivers. Two Amish men

812
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 15: were spotted with a twelve pack while on a horse

813
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Speaker 15: power buggy. They jumped off ran into the woods, leaving

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Speaker 15: the horse and the buggy behind. They were apparently pretty

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Speaker 15: fast guys too, because they got away. No one in

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Speaker 15: the Amish community is talking either. Police are still looking

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Speaker 15: for them. In Georgia, a fight broke out at a

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Speaker 15: Dollar General between a married couple and the cashier. The

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Speaker 15: couple was inquiring about the price of aluminum foil. They

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Speaker 15: then got angry started yelling at the clerk and then

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Speaker 15: decided to trash the store. They ran for it, they

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Speaker 15: too got away and finally, the NFL is picking sides

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Speaker 15: on the nose picking controversy. The NFL has warned Detroit

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Speaker 15: Lions players to stop their nose picking celebrations after touchdowns.

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Speaker 15: Their wide receiver was told to cease the mimicking gesture.

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Speaker 15: Reps have crackdown on Lions player celebrations before. In fact,

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Speaker 15: they've been issued fines for previous gestures. Next year, the

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Speaker 15: Maryland doctor who says he can regrow your ears, have

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Speaker 15: a good weekend and a happy new Year.

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Speaker 1: So you get another hour of this Saturday Morning edition

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Speaker 1: for Saturday, December twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. Gary Jeff

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Speaker 1: Walker with you the uh the aftermath, the after glow

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Speaker 1: of Christmas, on the way to New Year's Day, and

834
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Speaker 1: a wonderful chance to be with you again.

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Speaker 2: In between, time for a science minute our friends Science

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Speaker 2: Mike standing up.

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Speaker 9: Yes as a nightly scientist, he was surprising it no

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Speaker 9: blinding me with inde.

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Speaker 2: Uh. So Michael, tell me a little bit about your Christmas.

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Speaker 2: What'd you do?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Family came over around six o'clock that night and we had.

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Speaker 8: Uh we had Italian tying through Uh we have we

844
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Speaker 8: have had chige revol and meet balls and I car

845
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Speaker 8: remember there's a there was an older family that made

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Speaker 8: raviolis in Newport and they finally went back started making

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Speaker 8: them again and uh we went over to a market

848
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 8: where they distributed them to a local distributor. Now and

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Speaker 8: we had My wife remembered him when they she was

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Speaker 8: growing up and uh, so that's what we had for dinner.

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00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 8: One grandson, so he opened up. He was the focus

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Speaker 8: of the of the night so.

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Speaker 1: Well on Christmas night because we went to Tennessee to

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: see mom and dad on Christmas Eve morning. Yeah, and

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00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: spent the afternoon and the night with him and woke

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00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: up the next morning, went over to my brother's house,

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Speaker 1: also in the middle Tennessee area, and we left before dinner.

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00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get back before dark. But we

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Speaker 1: did stop at BUCkies on the way and so Christmas night,

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00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: Christ and I had had BUCkies brisket sandwiches, which were

861
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: absolutely delicious.

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00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 8: Did you did you fill out that pop number two

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Speaker 8: and forty three.

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Speaker 1: Didn't need gas, No, but we got some brisket sandwiches.

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Speaker 1: One of these huge cobb salads that they make which

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00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: are delicious, a thing of bouta, which is a Louisiana

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Speaker 1: kind of sausage rice treat that I love, and uh

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Speaker 1: got a couple of gifts from for people who watched

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00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: Frankie while we were gone. But it was it was

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Speaker 1: a very nice Christmas on the way. Great to be

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Speaker 1: with family, you know, and that that's what it's really

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00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: all about to me, seeing the family members. And I

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00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: feel bad for people who are, you know, either because

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00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: of whatever reason, maybe everybody's just gone, they don't have

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Speaker 1: family around, because to me, that's what makes Christmas Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, what do you got this morning?

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Speaker 8: I listened to your your birthday show and yeah, congratulations

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 8: of all that.

879
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I.

880
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 8: Couldn't make it. Uh, but that's the doctor Somarco with

881
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 8: the with the rod Nathan. I know we don't have

882
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 8: much time, Gary, Jeff, that's right.

883
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 2: I'm I'm very I.

884
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 8: Just want On wl w T, it does read that

885
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 8: they actually looked at missus Nathan's autopsy report and the

886
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 8: liver sample on and says she did not have hepatized

887
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 8: pace from the from liver sample. But you go to

888
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 8: the w CPO site, and Jones's attorney says multiple BORE

889
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 8: certified physicians reviewed the comments lack of information Nthan's liver

890
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 8: support she did not have hepatize B, and they said

891
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 8: that shows a shocky misunderstanding of how hepty and how

892
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 8: it manifests h And I look at the the I said,

893
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 8: would hepatize be show up in the liver culture quickly?

894
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 8: And the information is no, it does not show up

895
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 8: show offensively in liver cultures, but it does show up

896
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 8: and what they call the macrophages of the liver immediately

897
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 8: in the liver, so you can actually biopsy the liver

898
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 8: and look at the microphages for hept B right away.

899
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 8: And it takes almost nine weeks worth to enter the

900
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 8: blood to be to be visible in the in a

901
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 8: blood sample. And then I figured, well, you know, there's

902
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 8: so much confusion.

903
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 2: Going on in this.

904
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody knows exactly what what the heck

905
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 8: of reading.

906
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: Well, there was only a one in three chance. Uh, yeah, Jones.

907
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: Would would have had hepatitis be even if Rodonathan had

908
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: hepatitis be.

909
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 8: Right, But they're all focusing on the fact that she

910
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 8: did have it right, Yeah, and he and he didn't. So,

911
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 8: but I said, can help have be can be confirmed

912
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 8: in an exune body? Absolutely they can. If I was,

913
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,280
Speaker 8: if I was the family of that that that lady,

914
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 8: especially you know, the sun still around, you can I

915
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 8: know this is gett a little little, but you can

916
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 8: exumee the body and actually find that the HEP surface

917
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 8: antigen still in the liver and and the virus DNA

918
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 8: still in the body. And they actually do this in

919
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 8: mummies there were thousands of years old. But I just

920
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 8: I just don't. I just well, I just find it.

921
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 8: I just find it hard to believe that actually had

922
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 8: somebody look at a liver sample, and you know, so

923
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 8: much conflicting.

924
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: The whole discussion Michael, about hepatitis BE and whether she

925
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: did or didn't have it, and whether Elwood Jones would

926
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: have had it if he had murdered her, and all

927
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: of this is is that is moot because there was

928
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: plenty of evidence to suggest that yes, he should have

929
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: very convicted, agreed, and and and you noticed that Elwood

930
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: didn't waste any time being in trouble with the law

931
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: once he was free.

932
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I saw that. But I just think that they're

933
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 8: going to focus on this I just think I just

934
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 8: think that they just somebody needs needs to, you know,

935
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 8: do the correct science, and something something screwed up in

936
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 8: the paperwork, and I just think I needed to look

937
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 8: at it closer. But that's my opinion on this whole thing.

938
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh there you go. My my feeling, my

939
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: feeling is. My feeling is mister Jones will find his

940
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: way back to prison sooner or later anyway. Eight twelve

941
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: and I hope not. Eight twelve, seven hundred WLW, Good

942
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: morning kids, time will give strawally true love never dies.

943
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Grandpa and Grandma sitting on their front porch rockers, watching

944
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful sunset and reminiscing about the good old days.

945
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: When Grandma turns to Grandpa and says, honey, do you

946
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: remember when we first started dating and you used to

947
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: just casually reach over and take my hand. Grandpa looks

948
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: at her, smiles and took her age at hand in

949
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: his with a wry little smile. Grandma pressed a little

950
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: bit farther, honey, do you remember how after we were

951
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: engaged sometimes you'd lean over and suddenly just kiss me

952
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: on the cheek. Grandpa leaned slowly towards Grandma and gave

953
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: her a lingering kiss on her wrinkled cheek, growing bolder.

954
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: Grandma's is, Honey, do you remember how after we were

955
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: first married and you'd kind of nibble on my ear?

956
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: Grandpa nodded and slowly got up from his rocker and

957
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: headed into the house. Grandma said, Honey, where are you going?

958
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: Grandpa said, to get my teeth Eastern that is. And

959
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: a Saturday morning again together here on seven utter WLW

960
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: Garry Jeff Walker, the last Saturday of the year, heading

961
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: into a new year in a busy, busy college football

962
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: bowl weekend, and looking ahead to New Year's Eve and

963
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: New Year's Day to talk about all that and more.

964
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: Our friend Moegger joins us again. Hey, mo, how are

965
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: you doing. We're doing okay.

966
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: These EHL hockey players not so much apparently. The thing

967
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: I know some people who work for the Cyclones and

968
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: work is kind of like that's an operative term because

969
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't get paid very much, but they

970
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: love hockey, so that's why they work Cyclones games when

971
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: the Clones are home. They were planning on working today

972
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: until the strike came about with the Hockey Players Union

973
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: against the EHL over working conditions and salary, all of

974
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: the usual things. But they made a good point. The

975
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: game may get played tonight at Heritage Bank Arena because

976
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: they may have replacements. And the thing they told me

977
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: yesterday is that what these players may or may not understand,

978
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: there are plenty of players in the wings who waiting

979
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: to go ahead and lace up the skates and play.

980
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: It's not exactly one of those situations where it's going

981
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: to be hard for scabs to walk across the picket

982
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: lines of minor league hockey players.

983
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I just.

984
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: One of the gripes, apparently, is that in the NHL

985
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: they never have to play more than two nights in

986
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: a row, and these guys, you know, they're barnstorming for

987
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: very little money with very little prospect of really making

988
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: it to the bigs, and they sometimes they're having to

989
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: go three games in a row on the road, and

990
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty grueling. I guess you have to really love hockey,

991
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: I guess if you want to play in the minors.

992
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: In any thoughts on any of.

993
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: That, well, you mentioned the prospect of replacement players, and

994
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 4: what I think is interesting about that is, you know,

995
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: if we were talking about the upper reaches of the sport,

996
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 4: right the NHL, which the NHL has gone through lockouts

997
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: missed an entire season about twenty years ago. Fans aren't

998
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 4: going to accept replacement players at the highest level of sport.

999
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: I think that would have been the case with Major

1000
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: League Baseball when they briefly attempted it in nineteen ninety five.

1001
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 4: It was clearly the case with the National Football League

1002
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty seven, and I think would be the

1003
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 4: case in the NHL. But the ECCHL is not the

1004
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 4: upper reaches of the sport. It's it's actually the one

1005
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 4: of the lowest levels of professional hockey there is. That's

1006
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: not to say that those players aren't supremely talented. That's

1007
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 4: not to say that some of those guys you know

1008
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 4: aren't going to have a chance to one day make

1009
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: the NHL. But I would wonder this, your average Cincinnati

1010
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: Cyclones ticket buyer, how much do they really care about

1011
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 4: the quality of the play and would they accept a

1012
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 4: level of play that was maybe a wrung or two

1013
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: below what they're ordinarily getting at the ECCHL. Look, the

1014
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Cyclones are a really cool local sports entity.

1015
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: They do a great job.

1016
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,439
Speaker 4: With promotions, and on the ice they have been more

1017
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 4: than competitive for a very very long time.

1018
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know that.

1019
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: Many people who go to Cincinnati Cyclones games who know

1020
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: who any of the players are. And that's no not

1021
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 4: going to any of the players. I think it's just

1022
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 4: a reality of the market. You know, Cyclones games are

1023
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 4: not on television, they're not on local radio. The coverage

1024
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 4: they get, frankly pales in comparison to some of the

1025
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: larger entities in town. That doesn't mean they don't have

1026
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 4: very good players, it doesn't mean the on ice product

1027
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 4: can't be compelling. But I would wonder how many fans

1028
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 4: would go, you know what, on a Saturday night, I

1029
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: go to have a beer, I go for whatever the

1030
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 4: promotion is, and I go to see some hockey, and

1031
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: if the hockey isn't nearly as good, that's okay. I

1032
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 4: would wonder that in terms of what the EHL players

1033
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 4: are looking for, Like I certainly understand, you know, you

1034
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 4: only get so many opportunities to bargain in professional sports.

1035
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 4: You only get so many opportunities to use your leverage.

1036
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: Players are doing that. I would wonder how much is

1037
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 4: this going to hurt the wallets of EHL owners, but

1038
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: some of the things they're looking for. You know, the

1039
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: Cyclones will have weekends where they will play a game

1040
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 4: on Friday night, They'll play a game on Saturday night,

1041
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 4: They'll play a game on Sunday afternoon. That's three games

1042
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 4: in less than forty eight hours, often in multiple cities.

1043
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: I can understand that not necessarily being something that players

1044
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 4: want to continue. I think they're fighting for better equipment.

1045
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 4: I can certainly understand that. I think they're fighting for

1046
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 4: more days off, better travel conditions, obviously better pay. I'd

1047
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: beligned you if I told you I've dove I've gone

1048
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,600
Speaker 4: deep into what the average ECHL player makes.

1049
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

1050
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 4: But I think you make a really interesting point because

1051
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I'll go to like two Cyclones

1052
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 4: games a year, and they're a blast, and they do

1053
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 4: a great job, and I like hockey. I think if

1054
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 4: I had tickets for a game and I was going

1055
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 4: to be told you get replacement EHL players, I think

1056
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 4: I'd probably shrug my shoulders and go, let's go. Whereas

1057
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 4: I don't think I would do that if I had

1058
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 4: tickets to an NHL game, or an NBA game, or

1059
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 4: an NFL game, or a Major League Baseball game, and

1060
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 4: they were going to put out replacement players because of

1061
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 4: a labor stoppage.

1062
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean helmets that actually protect them and fit.

1063
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: I can understand how that might be an issue. But

1064
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: part of EHL contracts right now, and they were telling

1065
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: you this these guys at work clones games, is that

1066
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: they do get a free apartment and they get health benefits.

1067
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: They've all been evicted from their apartments as of the

1068
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: moment that the strike occurred. So that's what I've been told. So,

1069
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, to be homeless and to be out of

1070
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: a hockey gig, I don't know if that's the best

1071
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: move possible.

1072
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: But like I said, and what I would wonder is

1073
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 2: what I would.

1074
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: Wonder is, like, you know, in Major League Baseball, there's

1075
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: a strike fund right where if the if the Players

1076
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: Association says, look, we think there's going to be a

1077
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: work stoppage, they will have their players stash money aside

1078
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 4: for a stoppage fund. Now it's major League Baseball, very

1079
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 4: few players are worried about their housing. But I think

1080
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: that raises another good question because this this just landed

1081
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 4: on my radar last week. I happened to see a

1082
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 4: social media post by the EHL Players Association.

1083
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 7: I had no.

1084
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 4: Idea that we were talking about a potential strike, but

1085
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 4: I am curious, and I'm going to.

1086
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: Look into this.

1087
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: I am curious as to, you know, what, what what

1088
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 4: what plans were made to account for the players not

1089
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 4: being able to live in the organization or team subsidized

1090
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 4: housing that they receive. I think it's a good question.

1091
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily know that the answer is going to

1092
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 4: be all that hard to find, but I am curious.

1093
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Speaker 1: I'm actually a little disappointed that the Snoop Dog Bowl

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Speaker 1: is being played in Arizona and not in Mile High Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Well done done, I remind your red Ox and the

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01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 4: frant Noo State Bulldogs.

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Speaker 2: In the Snoop Dog Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Exactly are you surprised? I mean anymore, it's become commonplace

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Speaker 1: that we have all these bowl games. But I mean,

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01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: there are bowl games just to have bowl games, it seems,

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: and you know, we're all waiting. At least I am

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01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit for the main entree on New

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01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: Year's Eve and New Year's Day with the football playoff?

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Speaker 1: How much do you think people care about these various

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01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: and sundry other Bowl games unless they're fans of that

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Speaker 1: the schools that are in them.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's hard to I think it's hard

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Speaker 4: to ask fans to care about them when oftentimes the

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01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 4: players and coaches don't share enough to either play or

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Speaker 4: coaching them.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, at the end of the day, when you

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Speaker 4: have some of these games where the players or the

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01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 4: coaches involved will say I'm opting out, well, then you

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: know fans inevitably are going to follow the line.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think the one thing keeping these ball games afloat

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01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 4: is gambling, right, because there are still a lot of

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01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 4: folks who loved the wage were on college football and

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01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 4: love to find an edge. And it doesn't necessarily matter

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Speaker 4: who's playing, and I'm talking about in terms of the

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01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 4: best players who's playing in the games. They'll see a

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Speaker 4: point spread they like and they'll make a wager. The

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Speaker 4: reality is those ball games. ESPN loves the inventory. They

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Speaker 4: eat a lot of innings this time of year, especially

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Speaker 4: playing in times where maybe the NBA isn't playing and

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 4: there's no college basketball, and the games actually do pretty well.

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Speaker 4: It's funny. Christmas Eve night we had the Hawaii Ball on.

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01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 4: It was California and Hawaii. It was actually a fight

1130
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Speaker 4: in the game. It's a pretty good football game, and

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01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 4: you just kind of have it on because it's football.

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Speaker 4: I think if yes with with a ball that was

1133
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Speaker 4: being played early in the day, Central Michigan was one

1134
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: of the teams, and it goes to show you how

1135
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 4: little the game actually registered because I couldn't remember who

1136
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 4: the other team was, but.

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01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: It was football and it was on.

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Speaker 4: And so I think those bowls, you know, sort of

1139
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 4: hang in the background just enough because there's people who

1140
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 4: do that. But yeah, look, I mean there was a

1141
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 4: time where New Year's even New Year's Day, you would

1142
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 4: line up all these ball games and they felt like

1143
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 4: they had some gravitas.

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: That is not the case anymore, right.

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01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: I am looking for other than the playoff games. I

1146
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: am looking forward to the noon game on New Year's

1147
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 1: Eve because it's my Vanderbilt Commodores against my dad's Iowa Hawkeyes.

1148
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: And if we could only be back in Tennessee for that.

1149
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: I love that NFL down to the last two weeks

1150
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: and very little drama left about who is going to

1151
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs, at least in the NFC. I mean,

1152
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: I think that they're what the question between what the

1153
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. That's the only

1154
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: possible slot that will change depending on the games. But

1155
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 1: in the AFC, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers. I really

1156
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: didn't expect the Steelers to be there at the end.

1157
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: I expected it would be Baltimore's year, or maybe the

1158
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: Bengals early before the season started. Are you surprised that

1159
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: the Steelers are once again knocking on the door of

1160
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: being in the playoffs, and not only being in the

1161
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,919
Speaker 1: playoffs but winning the AFC?

1162
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:29,520
Speaker 4: Nor surprise, not shocked. I thought when Baltimore dug themselves

1163
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 4: out of that one in five hole to even themselves

1164
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 4: up at five and five, it kind of felt like

1165
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 4: they were set to take off and run and it didn't.

1166
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 4: Never really happen. Pittsburgh won the head to head matchup.

1167
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 4: Lord Jackson has not been himself. I don't know that

1168
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: he's gonna play tonight because he's got a back. Obviously,

1169
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 4: the Bengals issues have been well documented. But you know,

1170
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: there was a time at mid November where Aaron Rodgers

1171
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: was playing like a guy his age, where you say

1172
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 4: that that Pittsburgh defense was a little bit of an

1173
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 4: underachiever collectively, and I do give them credit. They did

1174
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 4: beat the Ravens in their building. They came back and

1175
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 4: beat the Bengals after losing to them in Cincinnati in October.

1176
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 4: They went to Detroit last week and beat a desperate

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01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 4: Lions team. I think they got some help from the officials,

1178
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 4: but still beat a death Lions team. And Aaron Rodgers

1179
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,480
Speaker 4: has played capably. They've recommitted themselves.

1180
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: To running the football.

1181
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 4: They've gotten by defensively despite not having TJ.

1182
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 8: Watt.

1183
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1184
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 4: That I take Pittsburgh that seriously as a bona fide

1185
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender, but somebody had to win the AFC North.

1186
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 4: The Bengals couldn't rise to the challenge. The Ravens haven't

1187
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 4: been able to rise to the challenge. Pittsburgh just needs

1188
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: one win in their last two games or a Baltimore

1189
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: loss in one of their last two games, and they'll

1190
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 4: be division champs. And champions deserve credit. I'll begrudgingly get it.

1191
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 4: Give it to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I'm really disappointed that the Lions got drummed out, but

1193
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 1: they're so decimated by injuries, especially in that defense that

1194
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 1: they really couldn't compete as the season wound down.

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 4: You agree, I agree, and you know it highlights I

1196
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 4: think two things. Number One, coaching matters in this league,

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 4: and I've always believed if you go back more than

1198
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Speaker 4: a decade, Marvin Lewis when he was the coach of

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Speaker 4: the Bengals, I think his finest single season coaching job

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 4: took place in twenty fourteen because that season they had

1201
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 4: a ton of injuries, but he had two new coordinators

1202
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: offensively and defensively. They won ten games, tied one, went

1203
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 4: into their last game of the season with a chance

1204
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 4: to win the division, made the playoffs, didn't win a

1205
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 4: playoff game, obviously, but I think that season, if you

1206
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: watch closely, it illustrated how hard it is to replace

1207
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 4: both coordinators. The Detroit Lions had to do that this year,

1208
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 4: and I think they felt that impact. The other thing is,

1209
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 4: you know, this was a team to two years ago

1210
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 4: had a two touchdown lead in the NFC Championship game

1211
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 4: and lost. Had the best record in the sport last year,

1212
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 4: had home field throughout, lost at home, win closed very quickly.

1213
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 4: In the NFL, I think we've seen that to a

1214
01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: degree here in Cincinnati, and Dan Campbell, the coach at Alliance,

1215
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 4: after that NFC Championship game in San Francisco two years

1216
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 4: ago when they had a big lead and lost, said

1217
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 4: this might have been our best chance. You know, you

1218
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 4: don't want to really believe that in real time. It's

1219
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 4: kind of like the Bengals Afterday lost the Super Bowl.

1220
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: It was great that they got there, but you wondered

1221
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: after that game, you know, is this going to be

1222
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 4: their best chance? Turns out, at least to this point,

1223
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 4: it has been. I think in Detroit, it's not so

1224
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 4: much about what they haven't been able to do this year.

1225
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: They have had a ton of injuries. It's the missed

1226
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 4: opportunities of the last couple of seasons sort of echoing

1227
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 4: through this season of change and disappointment.

1228
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Speaker 1: Moeger, have a happy new year and we look forward

1229
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: to talking to you in twenty twenty six.

1230
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Speaker 16: Counselor, how are you hey? I'm good, Gary, Jeff? How

1231
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 16: about you tell me what's on the show today. Oh,

1232
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 16: I'll tell you what. More craziness in Minnesota. You are

1233
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 16: not gonna believe this. One four million bucks was giving

1234
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 16: to a learning center with no students and the sign

1235
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 16: in front of the player. They misspelled learning I'm hot kidding.

1236
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 16: You can't make this stuff up. You can't make it up.

1237
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 16: The confirmed fraud now is about eleven billion. By the way,

1238
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 16: we are going to be talking to Janis Heisel at

1239
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 16: believe ten o'clock or ten thirty. She's on it like

1240
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 16: White on Rice. Jimmy Kimmel back in the news he

1241
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 16: takes shots at Trump while in the UK. You know

1242
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 16: so much for the unwritten rule that you don't criticize

1243
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 16: your president or your country when you're out of the country.

1244
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,919
Speaker 16: We're gonna wrap it up by talking to FOP President

1245
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 16: Ken Kober, Gonna get his thoughts on the Elwood Jones

1246
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 16: O VII, Fiesco and some other things going on with CPD.

1247
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: Lots of college football bowl games. Come join us at

1248
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: the after the show show at Huddles if you dare

1249
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: weather it's gonna be nice today, good driving, and we'll

1250
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: see you then slinging drinks for Hillbillies and others. As

1251
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to say, the Saturday midday Show with Mike

1252
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: come it up next.