1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:00,480 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 2: This week, the Bengals and Dolphins meet up in Miami 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: for a South Beach showdown. Speaking of the beach, my 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: swimsuit of choice is a speedo European style. I don't 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: like those escape calves. The Bengals stool, the Dolphins get 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: the call live from Dan Lloyd and Dave Lapham. The 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: game kicks up a won VM with covered starting at 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: nine am Sunday. Stream for free are the new and 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bengals. 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: Here we go The Moulagger Show, hosted by not Mowagger 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: Chad Brenda filling in on a gloomy, chilly Thursday here 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: in the Queen City. Thank you as as always for 14 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: choosing me. I'll be here all afternoon. Tarren Bland on 15 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: the ones and two's Tarran and I both uh full full, 16 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: thanks as well. Once it's been a while, Tarran, Thanks 17 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: to our our folks at J and W Sandwich Shopping. 18 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: Never disappoint never ever ever disciplined. I couldn't. I couldn't 19 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 4: hardly eat it. 20 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're a little bit more full than I am today. 21 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 6: I mean it was huge. I had disciplined today. 22 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: You did have discipline. You only ate half. That's the 23 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: thing about you know those double deckers. Once you start 24 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: the second half, like you got to eat it. You 25 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: can't just take a couple of bites out of the 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: second half and save that for later. You either eat 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: half and save half, or you eat the whole thing. 28 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: You went half seas today. I was pretty hungry. I 29 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 3: conquered the whole thing, feeling pretty good. But I also 30 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: feel like I could stretch out across this desk right 31 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: here and take a nap. That's all right. The good 32 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: news is things should be pretty lively today. A lot 33 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: to get to as winners go first, right, that's the 34 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: motto of this radio station. 35 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: Winners go first, Aran Winners Go First. 36 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bearcats with a win last night, albeit over a 37 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: by game opponent in Alabama State. But let's be honest, 38 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: Cincinnati hasn't exactly wowed in their by game opportunities this year. 39 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: They get this one eighty eight to fifty one, and 40 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: more importantly, the big news from last night, Gisel James 41 00:02:55,280 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: returns to the lineup for Cincinnati. Say what you will 42 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: about that situation. There's a lot, there's a lot to unpack. 43 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: There's a lot to discuss and dissect from everything that 44 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: happened this summer, to Gigsel James being removed from the program, 45 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: to Gisel James all of a sudden popping back up 46 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 3: around the program and then the path back onto the 47 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: floor last night. Was it handled right? Was it handled poorly? 48 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: There's a lot of opinions. I think most of those 49 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: opinions have validity to them on both sides of the conversation. 50 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: But it was really good to see Gisel James back 51 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: out there, smiling, having a good time with his teammates, 52 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: playing well, helping his team to a victory, a team 53 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: that going into the game was six and four. The 54 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: vibes weren't good around since Sinnati basketball leading up to 55 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: the game. They jump out to a fifty to twenty 56 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: five halftime lead, they cruised to an eighty eight to 57 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: fifty one victory. Anyway you slice it, I was happy 58 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: for Gisel James. Not only did he play well, but 59 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: it looked like there was normalcy return to his life. 60 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: He was having a good time on the bench with 61 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Buck Harris and Dane Thomas. And if you followed this 62 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: situation closely, you know, there was a little bit of 63 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: bad blood between Gizsel and Buck Harris at the end 64 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: of at the end of the summer, there was it 65 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: was fair to question how would that go between those 66 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: two guys, and at least for one night, at least 67 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: for the return and at least for the that he 68 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: got when he checked into the game, the ovation he 69 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 3: got when things went well for him. It was definitely 70 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: a feel good story, and there have not been a 71 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: lot of those of late around the city. So it 72 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: was good to see Jisel back out there. It was 73 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: good to see him play well, and it was good 74 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: to see that smile on his face. And look, a 75 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: lot of what he went through is self inflicted. It 76 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: was a problem of his own doing. But that doesn't 77 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: mean you can't work your way through it and come 78 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: out on the other side of it. And hopefully last 79 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: night was a step in that direction. So we will 80 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: get to that today. A tough one for Xavior Boy 81 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: ninety eight to fifty seven forty one points, the biggest 82 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: loss in Sentas Center history. It's a burn the tape 83 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: deal in all honesty, and I know that's kind of 84 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: a corny, outdated term for when nothing really goes your way, 85 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: but nothing went Xavier's way. 86 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 7: Last night. 87 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 3: Creighton shot it really well, Xavier didn't. Xavier uncharacteristically turned 88 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: over the ball quite a bit. Creighton took advantage of it. 89 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: But for me, at least, the solace I'll take in 90 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: that is that if you look back to the start 91 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 3: of the season, that was a pretty rough start out 92 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: of the gate for Xavier, and Richard Patino was able 93 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: to course correct and get this thing back on track. 94 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: And I don't think I'm saying anything. I know Xavier 95 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: fans don't really want to hear from me about Xavier, 96 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: but they give me this microphone and I got to 97 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: talk about it. Sometimes I'll try not to insult your 98 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: intelligence and have fun at your expense while I do that. 99 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Richard Patino has shown the ability to kind of navigate 100 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: the the the bad times. 101 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 4: So far. The Big East is gonna be tough. It's 102 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: a high major league. 103 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: Xavier is not going to really at many points this 104 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: year be the more talented team on the floor in 105 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: Big East games, but that doesn't mean they can't play 106 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: well and win some games in the league. Are they 107 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: gonna contend with with Yukon and Seaton Hall. No, probably not, 108 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: And I'm not breaking any news any ground by saying that. 109 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 3: I just think last night was one of those Maybe 110 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 3: they were a little uh riding the wave of playing 111 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: much much, much better basketball than they did at the 112 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: beginning of the season. They got a big win in 113 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: the Crosstown shootout, they protected home court, they extended the 114 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: street at sentas in the shootout. Maybe sometimes you got 115 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: to be brought back down a little bit to get 116 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: back up and to get back to a team that 117 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: was ultimately playing above their talent level. They were playing well, 118 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: and last night it didn't go well. But I don't 119 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: think that is an automatic sign that things aren't going 120 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: to go well the rest of the way, because I 121 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: think Patino will be able to navigate some of it. 122 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: Do I think he's going to be able to navigate 123 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 3: climbing to the top of the mountain. No, But from 124 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: what I've seen of the Big East, there's some wins 125 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: in there for Xavier. This is a team that can 126 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: finish middle of the pack in the league, which I 127 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: think would be a very promising year one considering you 128 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: had to start over. So yeah, it's okay to be frustrated. 129 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 3: It's a big one Saturday traveling to Georgetown. Georgetown at 130 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: times has looked like they might be getting things back 131 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: on track this year. At times they haven't looked very good. 132 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see how Xavier responds from 133 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: this loss and can they put it behind them quickly 134 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: or does it linger? And you just you don't want 135 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: to start zero to two in the league knowing you're 136 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: gonna be in a fight to get up to that 137 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 3: middle of the conference. So that's the big thing for 138 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: me is what does Saturday night look like in Washington, DC? 139 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: And then we're gonna get to a lot of Bengals 140 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 3: today and get to a lot of angles today, and 141 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: including first and foremost for me, everybody thinks they know 142 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: what's going on in Joe Burrow's mind. 143 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: Everybody thinks they know. 144 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is leaning towards that Carson Palmer exit, that 145 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: frustration with the front office, that feeling that they're not 146 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 3: going to be able to get it done here. And 147 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: while that's fair. While I think it's fair to say 148 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: Joe is wondering what this path to success looks like 149 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati, I also think it's fair to wonder, and 150 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: I think we all agree. Joe Burrow's pretty smart guy, right, 151 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: pretty smart guy. How much of this do you think 152 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: is potentially Joe Burrow wondering about the things that he 153 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: has had a say in for this organization and is 154 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: it best to maybe leave some of that stuff on 155 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: the side. Joe Burrow's gotten everything he's wanted from the 156 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals, especially since he got the new contract. So 157 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: since playing in the AFC Championship Game, Joe Burrow's gotten 158 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: a lot of what he's wanted. He gets the type 159 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: of offense that he wants to play, which, as we 160 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,119 Speaker 3: saw in twenty twenty four, it can be wildly effective, 161 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: but also does things like limits the running game a 162 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: little bit, does things like opens Joe Burrow up to 163 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: more hits, being more susceptible to more physical punishment, which 164 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: in turn puts Joe Burrow on injured reserve, puts the 165 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: Bengals in a tough place to win because so much 166 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 3: is invested in Joe Burrow leading them to victory. I 167 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: think we would also all agree T Higgins was on 168 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: his way out the door in this franchise until what 169 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: until Joe Burrow said I need T Higgins. I think 170 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: they were always going to extend Jamar Chase, but Joe 171 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: Burrow was at the front of the line. 172 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 6: There. 173 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: Need Jamar need t need, Trey Hendrickson, need Mike Kiseki 174 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: need my style of play, need to play offense the 175 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: way I want to play. Need to sign the guys 176 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 3: I want to sign. They've now missed the playoffs three 177 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: years in a row, and in two of those years 178 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had significant injuries. So how much of this 179 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: mindset that we've seen Joe Burrow fighting through through these 180 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 3: past couple of weeks is Joe Burrow wondering internally, maybe 181 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: front office isn't my spot. Maybe my spot's playing quarterback. 182 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm really good at that, really good at that. And 183 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: that's not to say the things that he wanted are bad, 184 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: or the things that he wanted or wrong. But you 185 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: wonder a guy that's had that much time to reflect, 186 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 3: a guy that's had that much time as he was 187 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: rehabbing from the injury to think about things, doing a 188 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: little self reflection, doing a little self scouting. He's asked 189 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: for a lot, He's gotten it. You know what he's 190 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: also gotten he's also gotten a very young defense because 191 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 3: they haven't been in a position to pay a lot 192 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: of money on the defensive side of the ball because 193 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: the money's tied up where Joe wants it to be 194 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: tied up. How much of those injuries So you look 195 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: at and say, maybe maybe we this way, that we're 196 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: playing a little bit, taking less hits, getting less pressure, 197 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: running for my life a lot less. Maybe I need 198 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: to listen to the people that design offense and not 199 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: just say this is how I want to play. I'm 200 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: not saying that's absolving of anything else that he might 201 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: possibly be talking about. I am saying, maybe there is 202 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: some of that internal conversation that says, hey, some of 203 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: this is on me, and it's not on me because 204 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: of my play is a core back. But I'm getting 205 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: everything I want and I'm not getting the results that 206 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: I thought that would uh developed. 207 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: So we'll get to that much much more. 208 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: Phone lines are open five one, three, seven, four, nine, 209 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, Lee Sterling at three point thirty, Kegan Nicholson 210 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: at four forty five, Jay Morrison at five point twenty. 211 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: Other than that, me and you just take a break 212 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 3: more after this the Moagger Show. 213 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: Since that he's ESPN fifteen. 214 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 8: Thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 215 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 9: Traffic in Ohio still got that crash on westbound two 216 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 9: seventy five at seventy five. It is off onto the 217 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 9: right shoulder. It's another accident and injury crash on Victory 218 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 9: Parkway at Dana Avenue and on col Raine. One more 219 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 9: accident at West Fork on at Eazelic with traffic this. 220 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 10: Reason of the sun. 221 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: Because what'd you think of this? 222 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 6: Tarren? 223 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 7: Yeah? 224 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: The album of the album, Yeah. 225 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 7: Solid, they got it. 226 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 5: I got in my top album favorite. 227 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: That was really good. 228 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: Beats are good, features are good, just a just a solid, 229 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 3: solid overall showing from uh from one of my all 230 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: time favorites. 231 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: I'm a lot better than than the kids these days. 232 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: The kids these day, much like that twenty twenty five 233 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: brought us the the the the old heads brought some 234 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: heat in twenty twenty five for sure, Hopefully the kids 235 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: learn something about quantity, about quality. Quality Winners go first, 236 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: Cincinnati with a with a nice eighty eight to fifty 237 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: one over Alabama State last night, Big Night from Babon Miller. 238 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 3: Eleven of twelve from the floor, eight dunks. That's efficient, 239 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: eight of eight on dunks, fourteen rebounds, twenty six points 240 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 3: more importantly, plus thirty seven when he was on the floor. 241 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: More of that from bobon Miller. I'll take eight dunks 242 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 3: as many times as possible from bobon Miller. So a 243 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: good showing for him, A good showing for Gisel James, 244 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 3: who came in off the bench six of nine from 245 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: the floor, three of five from three, hit his only 246 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 3: free throw, four rebounds, two assists, only one turnover excuse me, 247 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 3: two turnovers, one steal, plus sixteen in his twenty minutes 248 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: of action. Probably I think think the plan was probably 249 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: a little less for Gizzle in terms of minutes, but 250 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: Buck Harris only played three minutes. Looked like his back 251 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: was acting up, and so that opened the door for 252 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: a little bit more run for Gisel James. But all 253 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: in all, I don't think you could have asked for 254 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: anything more in Gizzle's return. Kudos to the fans that 255 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: were in attendance for giving gizzl a big ovation last 256 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: night when he checked into the game. I don't know 257 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: what this looks like going forward. I'm just gonna be honest. 258 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 3: It's not like he's been playing basketball much from the 259 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: end of July. All the way through until the start 260 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: of November. He had much more important things to take 261 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: care of. The plan initially was was not for Gisel 262 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: James to play this year this season. Times change again. 263 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: There are some things about that decision I don't always 264 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: necessarily agree with. That's okay, but this is a team 265 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 3: that was six and four, and it was a team 266 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: that was spinning its wheels, and it was a team 267 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: that could not put consistent production and effort together over 268 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: forty minute games, and it had them in a bad 269 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: spot with Big twelve play looming. So last night you 270 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: get Jigsel back, he looks good. You look much more efficient, 271 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: much more crisp. But the reality is we're going to 272 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: find out a lot more about that Sunday when Cincinnati 273 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: takes on Clemson. Clemson's really good Top twenty five and 274 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 3: Ken Palm. They play solid defense, They're a little bit 275 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 3: more of a slow, methodical style on both ends of 276 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 3: the floor. Not going to be easy because that's a 277 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: team that it's playing really well right now. If Cincinnati 278 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: is going to get this thing back on track, we'll 279 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: probably have a much better answer Sunday at four o'clock. 280 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: If it's another loss, you're sitting at seven and five 281 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: in the non conference with Lipscomb on deck, who's a 282 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 3: really really solid mid major. And then you get Houston 283 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: on January third. We're not having great UC conversations next week, 284 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: but for now, for last night, for today, until Sunday 285 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: at two o'clock, can feel good about a win, a 286 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: win where they look good, a win where they got 287 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: their leading scorer from a year ago back and they 288 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: had a good story to go with it in the process. 289 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: Let's take a break. Lee Sterling up right after this. 290 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 291 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 8: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic from. 292 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 9: The UC Health Traffic Center. U See Cancer Center offers 293 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 9: advanced surgical options for complex liver and pancreas cancers, and 294 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 9: clinical trials you won't find anywhere else. Get a second 295 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 9: opinion now, Call five one three five eighty five UCCC 296 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 9: in Ohio westbound two seventy five. An accident blocking the 297 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 9: right lane between Mostellar and seventy five. It's an injury 298 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 9: accident on Victory Parkway at Dana Avenue and stop and 299 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 9: go traffic southbound seventy five from Hoppel to Fort Washington 300 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 9: Way on at Ezelic with traffic. 301 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 4: This report he sponsored rolling right Along. 302 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: Wednesday at three thirty Thursday at three thirty Thursday, Thursday, 303 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: right here on Thursday. 304 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm messed. 305 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: Up because I've got the BCJ podcast tonight, which is 306 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: usually on Wednesday, but because there was a game last night, 307 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 3: then we had to move it to Thursday. But my 308 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: brain tells me that it's Wednesday. I'm just lucky to 309 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: like to be here. Let's go out to Lee Stirling 310 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: from Paramount Sports. Lee, how the heck are you? 311 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 7: I'm good. I'm good. Gonna be hunkering down, hanging out here. 312 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 7: My daughter comes in from New York City late tonight 313 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 7: and got my birthday in between December twenty ninth, So 314 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be doing a lot of a lot of 315 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 7: time with family, friends, doing a lot of eating and Nita, 316 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 7: I say more, a lot. 317 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: Of betting, a lot of betting. 318 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: One of those. It's a while from now. I'm not 319 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: gonna get to talk to you. I don't think between 320 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: now and then, So I'm gonna we're gonna go ahead 321 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: and talk about it now. Navy minus six and a 322 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: half against Cincinnati on the second second, Yeah, second at 323 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: the Liberty Bowl in Memphis. 324 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 4: Since that, he's opened as a favorite. 325 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 7: Here. 326 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 3: There's one thing that you don't want to see in 327 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 3: ball seasonally, and that's your team in transition with the 328 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: transfer portal and everything going up against a service academy, 329 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: especially one as good as Navy. This year, the line 330 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: has moved drastically. Some of that Brendan sorosby entering the portal, 331 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: But boy, this is going to be a tough one 332 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: for the Bearcats. 333 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 7: It is, and on top of that, without scarsby your 334 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 7: defensive coordinator. I'm going back on Teck seven years. He 335 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 7: was at Iowa State before that. 336 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 11: He is not. 337 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 7: Based a triple option, so is he going to do 338 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 7: it on the fly? And they have the wrong defense. 339 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 7: The three three five defense doesn't work against this type 340 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 7: of option offense here, So it's based for spread offenses. 341 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 7: I know they have time to come up with something, 342 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 7: but you can't simulate it in practice. Practiced against it, 343 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 7: I've seen how it works, and you got to know 344 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 7: what you're doing. Big problem here. I think Navy's gonna 345 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 7: run wild here. I like Navy. I think they win 346 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 7: this game here thirty four to thirteen. 347 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember this or not, leeve 348 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 3: but when Luke Fickle first got here, Cincinnati played Navy 349 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 3: and I think they ran for six hundred and something yard. 350 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it felt like every play was like a 351 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 3: twelve yard game. And Marcus Freeman took that personal and 352 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 3: created a defense that they worked on for like a 353 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: year and a half. And then the next time they 354 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: played Navy and every subsequent time they got better and 355 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 3: took control of that. But that first time is a 356 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: nightmare when you've never played it before. I don't feel great. 357 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: I don't feel great. 358 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 6: Nope. 359 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: Broncos laying three against the Jaguars. 360 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 7: So Knights set up here for a fall. Are the 361 00:24:54,400 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 7: Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence. He's a mediocre quarterback and that's 362 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 7: the best in the grand scheme of things. He's coming 363 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 7: off a six touchdown game against the Jets. Jets wouldn't 364 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 7: have a win if it wasn't for their special teams. 365 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 7: Their defense is that bad. I know. Jacksonville's won five 366 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 7: straight five against the spread. For the wins were by 367 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 7: twenty two, twenty eight, twenty nine, and seventeen points. But 368 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 7: they're going to be going up against a really tough defense. 369 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 7: Number three against the run and top two against the pass, 370 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 7: and they're going to travel and play it over a 371 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 7: mile high good name for a stadium there, Yeah, I. 372 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: Think they should look into that. 373 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, might be a good idea. Sean Payton, I think 374 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 7: he's gradually, you know, feeling really comfortable with bone Nicks. 375 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 7: Earlier in the season, I mean it did not look good. 376 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 7: But right now bon Nick's playing with a lot of confidence. 377 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 7: And that's not even with running anymore. He hadn't even 378 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 7: had to unleash him there. So I think you're going 379 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 7: to see Trevor Lawrence throw two three picks here. I 380 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 7: like them for big thirty to thirteen. 381 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: Finally, the Bengals two and a half point favorites against 382 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: the Dolphins. 383 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 7: So I couldn't do it. I've been invited. I just 384 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 7: got an invite for surf and turf and a bunch 385 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 7: of different pies too, and I just can't go to 386 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 7: this game. I can't do it. I mean, it'll be 387 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 7: a little interesting and I'll watch the game. It'll be 388 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 7: one of the main games I'll be watching in my 389 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 7: man cave. But the Bengals just don't seem to care. 390 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 7: Dolphins are going to do it with Quinn yours now. 391 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: But they do have a winning record straight up and 392 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 7: against the spread at home, and I think they're gonna 393 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 7: be able to score some points here against Cincinnati. This 394 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 7: line switched from Miami being a one, one and a 395 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 7: half point favorite to Cincinnati being a four and a 396 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 7: half to five point favorite. Here, fourth road game in 397 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 7: six weeks here, Miami's won four straight before that Steelers loss. 398 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 7: They just can't play in cold weather. I think they've 399 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 7: won two games in like forty years where it's been 400 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: below forty degrees. I think Cincinnati wins this game twenty eight, 401 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 7: twenty seven. I'm gonna take the four and a half 402 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 7: five points in Miami. 403 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 4: All right, there you go. 404 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: And then the game of the week, Ravens two and 405 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 3: a half point favorites over the Patriots. 406 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: That's a surprising line to me. 407 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a big game here. Some people, some conspiracy theorists, 408 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 7: think it's coming down to the final game between the 409 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 7: Steelers and the Ravens. Made for TV. But we'll see 410 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 7: grams five callers get it for free. Yep, there's always 411 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 7: a script. Hey, someone tell me, I'm a Miami fan. 412 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 7: They told me that it's set up so Miami beats 413 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 7: A and M Carson Beck and Miami face Ohio State, 414 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 7: so it's a rematch of the two thousand and two 415 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 7: national championship. Then he faces his former team Georgia Finals. Yeah, 416 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 7: and then then Mario Christobal faces his old team Oregon. 417 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, if you believe in that, you believe 418 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 7: in the Tooh theory. And I'm a Miami fan, So 419 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 7: anyone wants to hop on board. We went twenty one 420 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 7: to ten last year in the bowls. You get from 421 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 7: now through the thirty first two weeks of action college 422 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 7: football over twenty six bowls, two weeks of college football playoffs, 423 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 7: two weeks of the NFL, and we got seven games 424 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 7: we're going to release in the NFL this week, including 425 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 7: our NFL Game of the Year. Are forty to fifty 426 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 7: of plays. How about this. We're seventy four and thirty 427 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 7: one lifetime, so haven't had a big release like this 428 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 7: in six weeks. Do you want to come on board? 429 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 7: Check out all the specials, just one place, Paramount sports 430 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 7: dot com. 431 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: There go lead thanks a lot, appreciate it. Has some 432 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: great time with your family. Enjoyed Christmas and enjoy what 433 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: you your thirty fourth birthday. 434 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: As was that what it is? 435 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 7: Yeah? Thirty fifth, thirty five? 436 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, man, my man, all right, thanks lev, Happy holidays, Thanks, 437 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: take care, appreciate it. All right, let's take a break. 438 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: We'll get to the phones after this, Mike, mister acelou 439 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: and you. 440 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 441 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 8: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from the. 442 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 9: UC Health Traffic Center. UC Cancer Center offers advanced surgical 443 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 9: options for complex liver and pancreas cancers, and clinical trials 444 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 9: you won't find anywhere else. Get a second opinion, now, 445 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 9: call five one three, five eighty five. UCCC still got 446 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 9: that accident on the Ohio side of westbound two seventy five. 447 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 9: It's blocking the right lane between Mostellar and I seventy five. 448 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 9: Another accident on Gilbert Avenue at Martin Luther king In 449 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 9: slow traffic eastbound two seventy five from seventy five to Loveland, 450 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 9: Madeira I at Ezelic with traffic. 451 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 12: Just like noon. 452 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: Besides, keep it rolling, bring an hour number one to 453 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: a close. Let's take some calls, Mike. How's it going, 454 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: my friend? 455 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 11: Readings from Tory Pines, California, and my friend how are you? 456 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 11: And my man Terran? 457 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not a great day here. It's it's 458 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: it's not cold, but it's really windy. It's gray, it's gloomy. 459 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: It's a seasonal depression Thursday is what I would call it, Mike. 460 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, and it's not even February yet. 461 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 4: No, we're starting early. 462 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 11: Well, you know, you gotta be a trend setter. 463 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: What's going on? 464 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 11: I hope you're doing all right, Karen. I don't get 465 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 11: talked to you anymore like they used to, which I'm 466 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 11: sure you're thrilled to death about. I uh, right off 467 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 11: the bat before I forget, and then I got some food, 468 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 11: a little food thing. I want to talk to you 469 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 11: real quick. If you had to pick the two teams 470 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 11: and that you and Terrence, If you had to pick 471 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 11: right now, the two teams in the Super Bowl, who 472 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 11: are you gonna pick? 473 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really trust anybody in the ASC 474 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 3: to be honest with you. 475 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: Same but if I had a pig, I'm going to 476 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 5: Rams in Houston, Rams in Houston. 477 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: Okay, I think I'm with you on the Rams. I 478 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: just don't know. In the a SC I mean, I 479 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: guess I'm gonna say this. If Buffalo doesn't do it 480 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 3: this year, when do they do it? 481 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 11: Yeah, you got that right. 482 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean you're looking at no Borrow, no Mahomes, very 483 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: possibly no Lamar Jackson, like if he can't get them 484 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: there now eh eh, I'll go Rams and Bills. 485 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, you're right about the Bills if they don't do 486 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 11: a tissue. But see, everybody keeps saying, and I'm no 487 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 11: Denver pin, but everybody keeps saying, well, they're gonna get 488 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 11: that bubble burst. The offense just isn't quite good enough. 489 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 11: Blah blah blah, but it has been good enough to 490 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 11: win a whole hell of a lot of games. Yeah, 491 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 11: I lean towards Terrance. The two best bunch sevens in 492 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 11: the NFL are Houston and Denver, and the Rams are 493 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 11: probably third. Maybe see how now who do you like tonight? 494 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: Rams? Sam Donald still the Seahawks quarterback? 495 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 6: Right, yep? Okay, I'll go Rams over Stafford. 496 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 11: Okay, you go ahead and do it. 497 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 5: Karen Donald sucks against the Rams. 498 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 11: Yes, it's a historically crowd. 499 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: I mean, did you know this though, Mike what quarterback 500 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: has the most wins in the NFL since the start 501 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: of last season. 502 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 11: I assume it's Sam Donald. 503 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: It is zero playoff wins, no playoff wins, but he 504 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 3: wins a lot of regular season games. And this is 505 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 3: last I checked a regular season game. He just stinks 506 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 3: against the Rams. Terrence right on that one. 507 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 11: It's just like the guy the Reds picked up, the 508 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 11: ex Dodger, Caleb Ferguson. Caleb Ferguson is an imposing figure 509 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 11: on the mount. He's a big, sick dude. He's a 510 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 11: left hander. He can put a good pitcher and his 511 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 11: stats will tell you that over the years. However, the 512 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 11: reason the Dodgers finally canned him after about six years 513 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 11: was he just gave up too many clutch hits and 514 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 11: hits late in the game when when it costs cost 515 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 11: him the game. So that that's why the Dodgers Candy. 516 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the Reds won't really be in that position very often, 517 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 3: so he should be fine. 518 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 11: That's my thing, man, my man, kit dad. I had 519 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 11: some piea last night. 520 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 4: Oh I haven't had a good pie in a long time. 521 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 7: Oh my god. 522 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 11: And it was right on the fringe there of Tory 523 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 11: Pines in Delmore, not a couple of blocks from the 524 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 11: ocean there and I got I met Phil Nicholson. I 525 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 11: didn't get an autograph or nothing, but I met him. 526 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 11: He evidently he's co owner of this restaurant, and he 527 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 11: was walking around. I guess his wife was with him, 528 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 11: and and he's a big supporter of veteransine. There were 529 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 11: three or four of us here eating and he shook 530 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 11: our hands to talk to us for a minute. It 531 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 11: was really really pretty cool, very cool. Is he the 532 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 11: best left handed golfer you've ever seen? 533 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 6: I guess he is, probably Yeah. 534 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 11: I mean I can't think of anybody else, because there 535 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 11: really aren't very many of them that I can recall. 536 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 11: And in closing with this sparkling conversation, Mick, Mick's got 537 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 11: some shooters now, Chad. Finally Nick has got some shooters. 538 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 6: It only took him twenty years. That's right. 539 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 11: That boy he had got namer a hair on his. 540 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 6: Sad bro right. 541 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 11: But boy, they played a nice game last night against 542 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 11: Arizona State. They had fourteen three pointers last night, which. 543 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 4: That usually takes two or three as for a Mick 544 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 4: team to get to for sure, for. 545 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 11: Sure for years, if you like them to do anything. 546 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: This year, I haven't had a chance to see him 547 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 3: a ton. Yet I like some of the pieces, Like 548 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 3: you know, I've I've heard Xavier Booker's playing well out there. 549 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: I've been a big Xavier Booker fan since he was 550 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: like a sophomore in high school. I know I knew 551 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: his AAU coach really well. It's hard to say, like 552 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 3: I'll need to see a little bit more of him 553 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: in the Big Ten. But man, there's nothing better than 554 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 3: the Mick quotes, like the line last week about like 555 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: when when you guys call and talk to the recruits 556 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 3: and they say they came here because of me, Just 557 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 3: know they came here because of money. 558 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 11: You gotta love the guy, don't you. I'm telling you 559 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 11: if that's not Cincinnati through and through, nothing. 560 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 3: Complaining about games that started eight thirty on the West 561 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: Coast when he's a West Coast team because it starts 562 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,959 Speaker 3: at a let thirty and Cincinnati and Heap's not gonna 563 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: be able to stay up and watch it. 564 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 11: Holdout kids. 565 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 3: See you later, Mike, I got time for one more tear. 566 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: You want me to go break? 567 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 5: Get a break in? 568 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's get a break. I'm gonna leave the 569 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 3: phone lines open. Uh, we don't have a guest again 570 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: until four thirty. So I know MO doesn't talk to 571 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: you guys a whole lot during football season. I'm like 572 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: the substitute teacher. I'm rolling in the TV with the VCR. 573 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 3: We're gonna watch a movie. We're gonna take some calls, uh, 574 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: for as much as you guys want to talk. So 575 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 3: the next two segments, the first half hour of the 576 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: four o'clock hour is wide open five one, three, seven, 577 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll talk to you uh right 578 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: after this Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 579 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 8: This report is Spump ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. 580 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 3: Therego our number two, The Mowegar Show. I'm not Mowegar. 581 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: Chad Brendle, Bearcat Journal dot Com fill in four mode 582 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 3: today Karen Bland on the ones and twos. I thank 583 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 3: you as always for choosing me. We will We'll get 584 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 3: out to Kegan Nickoson at the bottom of the hour. 585 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 3: From Bearcat Journal dot Com. There has been a lot 586 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 3: going on with the Bearcats. Gisel James return when last 587 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 3: night over Alabama State and convincing fashion, the three key 588 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: members the three returning eligible members of the starting offensive 589 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 3: line announced that they will be back today for the Bearcats. 590 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 3: Left tackle Joe Cotton, left guard Evan Tengstaal who was 591 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 3: a third team All American great season from Tengstah, and 592 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 3: Taran TiO, who will probably move to center next year 593 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,319 Speaker 3: depending on how everything in the portal plays out. But 594 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 3: those three guys coming back to anchor that Cincinnati offensive 595 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 3: line next year, as they announced today. And the good 596 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: news is is that raises the floor. That was a 597 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 3: really good offensive line. There were a semi finalists for 598 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 3: the Joe Moore Award for the best offensive line in 599 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: the country. I think they only allowed five sacks on 600 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 3: the season. They are in a position to have another 601 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 3: really strong year up front. One good for your running game. 602 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 3: Two you probably gonna need a portal quarterback. With Britain 603 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 3: soorsby exiting stage left, it's a lot easier to sell 604 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: a portal quarterback when you say we've got a very 605 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 3: strong core of one of the best offensive lines in 606 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 3: the country returning next year. All right, let's go out 607 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 3: to the phones. We lost one call back. It's time 608 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 3: to go to the phones. I'm gonna save this whole 609 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 3: half hour twenty minutes now before we talk to keyan 610 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: for phone calls. 611 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 4: Mister, who are you talking to? 612 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: Yo Koto air shoes? 613 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 4: What's going on? 614 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 11: Hey? 615 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: Hey air Shoes. Well, I went to college. I cannot 616 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: get to make it out to the game. Yesterday. Missus 617 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 1: Ace was not feeling well, so. 618 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 4: I hope she's feeling back. 619 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 11: Ryan. 620 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: Think she's feeling a bit better today. But via Aladama 621 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: State University. Due to the fact that l is what 622 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: it is, there is a quarterback named Andrew Body that 623 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: I think that if if you scour the football statistics, 624 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: he was a conference player of the Year in the 625 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: Southwestern Athletic Conference in this football season, and he may 626 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: be a good match and possibly hopefully somebody the Cincinnati 627 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: Bearcats would look at and consider because their quarterback room 628 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: seems to be a little bit better without the I'm 629 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: not gonna completely call our Sowre and Sbee quarterback experience 630 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: where he was in Enigma, but I do feel as 631 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: though it was definitely a lot of meat left on 632 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: the bone from a coaching perspective, from the coach that 633 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: we do have at this point in time, that I 634 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: wish would somehow, some way have won one or two 635 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: more games. Somebody else would have signed them away, and 636 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: so we could start the Tony Pike football. 637 00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 6: Coach coaching aretball coach. 638 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,439 Speaker 1: He's not Tony Pike needs to be said Finnati's next 639 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: hand football coach. I'm telling you. 640 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 4: As a head football coach. He is a hell of 641 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 4: a broadcaster. 642 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: Is a good, very good broadcaster. But if we had 643 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: Tony Pike as our next football coach, one, I think 644 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: he would crush it in recruiting locally, and beyond two, 645 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: you could actually say you have somebody who has pro 646 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: football experience as your head coach. And then three a snap, 647 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: then we could have the Austin Fellmore experience for a 648 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: talk show and so I wouldn't. 649 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 7: Just have to. 650 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 3: Here, here's the reality of what you want. Though I 651 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 3: don't think Tony wants to work that hard. That's a 652 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 3: lot of work, man, it's. 653 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: A lot of work. But I mean, snap, we want 654 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Tony to get some some good gray hairs on his 655 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: heads from coaching, just because. 656 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 4: Unless you Tommy Tuberville, then it's like a part time job. 657 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: Man. Tommy Tubberville, man, I mean. 658 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 7: Gave him money. 659 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: And I can't you not having seen Tuberville up close 660 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: and personal, because I was still living in Alabama at 661 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: the time. I was disappointed at the just I mean, 662 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would say I would say 663 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: he did a better job than our current coach, because 664 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: he did have somewhat of a better record, But well. 665 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 3: This coach would have been fine if he was coaching 666 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 3: in the American Athletic Conference like Tommy Tuberville was. 667 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: Tuberville, Man, I mean, you. 668 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 3: Know, you know what he Here's here's here's what I 669 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: can tell you about Tommy Tuberville, mister Ace. You know 670 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 3: what he did and the practices I was at. He 671 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 3: spent more time standing there talking to us, the media members, 672 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 3: than he did coach in his football team. He'd come 673 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 3: over in the middle of practice and just stand there 674 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 3: for like an hour and talked up us. 675 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 4: You know what I was. 676 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: I'll tell you the exact moment I was pretty much 677 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: out on Tommy Tuberville. It was a Tuesday and Monday 678 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 3: night football. The night before Connor Barwin had a really 679 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 3: big game on Monday night football, and we're standing there 680 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 3: a practice on Tuesday and I said, man, Barwin looked 681 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 3: good last night, and Tuberville looked at me like I 682 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 3: had seven heads. He had absolutely no idea who who 683 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 3: Connor Barwin was, and at that point in time said 684 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 3: I think I'm out on this guy. 685 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 6: I think I'm out of this. 686 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: I would definitely say that Tuberville did leave a lot 687 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: to be wanting a whole lot more as a coach 688 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 1: at U see, having seen what he did down at 689 00:43:53,480 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: an I was a Holburn University sympathizer if anything, because one, 690 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting to see this stuff up close 691 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: and personal too. Tuberville never he did win some of 692 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,760 Speaker 1: the games against futile coaches when they got I forget 693 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: a FRENCHIONI beat them. But as soon as they switched 694 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: over to saving. Saving helped Tuberville be escorted out of Auburn, 695 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: Alabama because of his futility as a coach. And I 696 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: expected more for Tuberville when he got hired by UZ 697 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: just because like, all right, you've got southern tides where 698 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: you can recruit down there. Cincinnati and the state of 699 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: Ohio and northern Kentucky are really great hot beds for 700 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: athletic talent for college football. And the fact that Tubberville 701 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: just was horrible in terms of like his recruits being consistent. 702 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he never got anybody good then. 703 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: But it's like you expect a bit more, and I 704 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: think it was like the constant wife Wilf I'm not 705 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: hitting the local area as much as he possibly could 706 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: have if he left a whole lot of meat on 707 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: the bump. 708 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: He had a lot of good players while he was here. 709 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 3: He just didn't care to coach him. 710 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I was there, I saw it. 711 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 3: The biggest thing I think for Tuberville and I gotta 712 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 3: I gotta run after this, mister Ace. But the biggest 713 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 3: thing I would think for Tuberville and it's it's it 714 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: hurt Luke Fickel as well. Coaches are very good at 715 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 3: that initial staff right when they get the job, they 716 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 3: got their staff ready, they're ready to go, and then 717 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 3: over time you lose a guy here, you lose got 718 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 3: it there, guy moves on, you fire guy whatever. He 719 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 3: could never replicate the quality of staff that he had 720 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 3: when he first got here. 721 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 4: Fickle had kind of the same issue. 722 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 3: The problem for Fickle was that first staff he had 723 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: when he was a Cincinnati was like an all star team. 724 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 4: We just didn't know it yet. 725 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,240 Speaker 3: Mike Denbrock, Marcus Freeman, Brian Mason, who's the special teams 726 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 3: coordinator for the Colts, who I think is the best 727 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: sports special teams coordinator in the world. Like, there were 728 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 3: a lot of really good names on those early fickle staffs, 729 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 3: and then as he had to start replacing guys, it 730 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 3: didn't go as well. Appreciate you, miss Race. You have 731 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 3: an awesome Christmas. All right, my friend you all right, 732 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: I have a going Let's go to Nick in Blue ass. 733 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,359 Speaker 3: Nick wants to talk the return of Gisel James. What's 734 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 3: going on? 735 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 10: Nick? 736 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 6: Hey, Chad, how's it going. 737 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 4: I'm good. 738 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 13: You a lot better after seeing that game last night. 739 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 4: It definitely helps. The winning helps, it cures a lot. 740 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 7: Nick. 741 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, I had two things on the con turn or 742 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 13: so of what I saw. One was it feels like 743 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 13: he has a Kashmir Ray Troykpain feel to him, and 744 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 13: that the offense feels a little bit more calm and 745 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 13: or overall the team feels a little bit more calm 746 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 13: when he's on the floor. And two the fans they 747 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 13: love him. Yeah, he feels like a Gary Clark, Like 748 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 13: we know he is issues off the court, he's fixed those, 749 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 13: but it feels like he's loved by all in this city. 750 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 4: Well, that was. 751 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 3: I will say this, that was because he was coming 752 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 3: back and he played well. People are pretty angry right now. 753 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 6: Nick. 754 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 3: If things go south and he's not playing well, I 755 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 3: think it Hopefully we don't see it because I want 756 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 3: to see him do really well. He does have a 757 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,240 Speaker 3: little bit more of a calming influence because I don't 758 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: think one they don't really have anybody that can get 759 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 3: downhill now. I have talked about my issues with Jisel 760 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: over the years that he doesn't go all the way 761 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 3: to the rim. He'll get to like six feet and 762 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:47,879 Speaker 3: then hit a fade away, you know, twelve footer as 763 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 3: opposed to continuing the attack all the way to the 764 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 3: rim with his body getting fouled and going to the 765 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 3: free throw line. I don't think he gets to the 766 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 3: free throw line enough for a guy that's a eighty 767 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,360 Speaker 3: plus percent free throw shooter. So there are still things 768 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 3: that I think we're gonna have to find out with 769 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 3: him as the competition level jumps back up into Sunday 770 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: and going forward. But overall, the smile on his face 771 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 3: last night, knowing what he's been through, knowing how tough 772 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 3: of a time this has been for him, it was 773 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: great to see all of those things come to fruition 774 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 3: last night. 775 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 4: I was really happy for him. 776 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 6: I was too. 777 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 13: Do you think it helps with the spacing in that 778 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 13: we I know we haven't shot well from three, but 779 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 13: we have shooters on the team, and we have Chom 780 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 13: and McKinley when he's healthy down low, but we never 781 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 13: really had a mid range guy coming into this year. 782 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 13: I think that would help the offense in terms of 783 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 13: the spread. 784 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 4: Maybe. 785 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 3: But you know what, Nick, I hate the mid range jumper. 786 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 3: I hate it. I enjoy it. It's the least efficient 787 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 3: shot in sports. I mean, he's shot like thirty nine 788 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 3: thirty eight percent the mid from the mid range last year. 789 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 6: That's not good enough. That's not good enough. 790 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 10: Like it. 791 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: You're either and you know the game has evolved. It's layups, 792 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 3: dunks and threes. I think there is a place for some, 793 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 3: but you can't be a mid range merchant. You can't 794 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: be a guy that hunts seventeen footers or what. David 795 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 3: de Julie has always used to drive me nuts. He'd 796 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 3: shoot long twos with his heels on the three point line, 797 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: move back six inches and take the damn three. So 798 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't love it when he relies on it too much. 799 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 3: I do think there's a place for it when it's 800 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: an open spot in the defense and he can rise 801 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 3: up and take an easy one. 802 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 4: I don't mind those as much. 803 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 3: He took a lot of tough ones last year, hand 804 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 3: in his face, fading away, you know, just shots that 805 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 3: aren't efficient offense. If he can take less of those 806 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 3: and more of the open stuff, I think it can 807 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 3: be a little bit more successful. I'm super interested to 808 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 3: see what this looks like on Sunday, because that's a 809 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 3: really good Clemson team that they're facing Sunday. 810 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 13: Yes, it is too and I'm excited to thank thanks 811 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 13: for taking a call. 812 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 4: Appreciated, Nick, Thank you. All right, let's take a break, tea. 813 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 6: We will. 814 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 3: We'll get to something when we come back. Phone lines 815 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,439 Speaker 3: are open. 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Bengals injury report is out. 829 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow on the injury report again, but listed as 830 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 3: a full participant in practice on Thursday with the knee 831 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 3: DNPS today, BJ Hill, Chris Jenkins, Charlie Jones, Joseph Osai 832 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 3: on that list as well, along with no those are 833 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 3: those are the guys that were out limited no offense 834 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 3: and T Higgins Higgins trying to come back from concussion protocol. 835 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 3: Everybody else listed as full participants Joe Burrow, Dylan Fairchild, 836 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:14,240 Speaker 3: PJ Jules, Amarus, Mims, samajp, Ryan Drew Sample, Shamar Stewart, 837 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 3: who says that he is anticipating being available on Sunday, 838 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 3: and DJ Turner as well. A lot of ankle injuries 839 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 3: in there. You're getting to that point of the season. 840 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 3: Everybody dealing with a little something ankle, sore knees, sore 841 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 3: neck is, sore hamstrings, barking. Three weeks left, so everybody 842 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: trying to gut it out until the end, and those 843 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 3: injury reports tend to get at a long. 844 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:46,840 Speaker 4: Let's take a break. 845 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 3: Kegan nickoson coming up after this, We'll talk some Bearcats 846 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 3: right here in Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 847 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 8: You've been listening to football in the Natty on ESPN 848 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 8: fifteen thirty, Official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 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Northbound seventy one right lane blocked from an 857 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 9: accident at Town and northbound seventy one accident at Ridge 858 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 9: blocking the right two lanes. I'm at Ezelic with Traffic. 859 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 6: This report is sponsored by super Sure. 860 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 4: Say what, Say what? 861 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:16,879 Speaker 15: I means the soul with the Jungle Patrol, Welcome back, 862 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 15: my legger show. 863 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 5: Hold up, this is a rotation for you and the 864 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 5: old Memphis Right. 865 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Well, I think we're driving separate. He's he's 866 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 3: gonna come back for the Houston game and we're gonna 867 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 3: spend some family time in Nashville with UH with Kelly's sisters. 868 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 4: So I don't think we're going to drive down together. 869 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 3: He would probably like that though, Like you know how 870 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 3: much he enjoyed the trip to Kansas City. 871 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 4: Tern He really had a good time. 872 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 5: I mean, you see he's back in Kansas City this year. 873 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think I'm going out there for that. 874 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 4: What do you think, kikes? 875 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll enjoy that trip out there by myself knowing 876 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,520 Speaker 12: that I don't have to sit behind someone who smokes 877 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,160 Speaker 12: a cigarette every forty five minutes and puts the window 878 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 12: down in twenty degree weather. 879 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 6: They're going eighty. 880 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 3: Toughness, Kegan, where's your toughness? Where's your toughness? That was 881 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 3: a rental car. You don't smoke cigarettes and rental cars. 882 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 3: Come on, everybody knows that Anyhow, Keigan, How was uh, 883 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 3: how was it to have a little bit of a 884 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 3: change of uh vibes last night in the third arena 885 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 3: with the return of Gisel James and the team handling 886 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,800 Speaker 3: an inferior opponent with relative ease. 887 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 12: Yeah, it felt like a decent vibe change, But I 888 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 12: don't think it really convinced. 889 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 6: A lot of the fans that it was gonna, you know, 890 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 6: be a fix say that. 891 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 12: I think if if they beat Eastern Michigan and pulled 892 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,280 Speaker 12: one off cost either Louisville or Georgia. 893 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 16: Maybe it's different. Maybe the fans are thinking differently, But 894 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 16: I still think. 895 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 12: The team has some pretty deep seated issues that one guy. 896 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 6: Isn't going to fix. But it was it was good. 897 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 12: I think just the whole story about the. 898 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 6: Return is interesting to me. 899 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 12: And hearing from West last night about how it all 900 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 12: went down, especially about what Gisel had to do to 901 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 12: get back to earning his coaches trust, earning his teammates trust, 902 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 12: how he wanted to be on the team knowing that 903 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 12: he probably wasn't going to play anyway. That was something 904 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 12: that meant a lot to me. So that was nice 905 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,760 Speaker 12: to hear. But you know, I'm looking forward to seeing 906 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 12: what he can do and what he can contribute to 907 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 12: the team the rest of the season. 908 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 3: Here's one thing we can confirm for everybody. Kegan west 909 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 3: Miller said that Gisel James and pretty much everybody around 910 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 3: the was told that he would not be returning to 911 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 3: the team this year. 912 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't confirm that. 913 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 3: If you wonder why I was on this show or 914 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 3: on with you, were on with Tony or it talked 915 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 3: about it on all the shows on the Bearcat Journal 916 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 3: Network or on Bearcat Journal dot com like it didn't 917 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 3: think Gisel would be back this year, why, because that's 918 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 3: what everybody was told, everybody, including Gigsel James. Sometimes things change, 919 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 3: sometimes the situations evolve. Keegan, And look, I agree with 920 00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 3: Wes Miller when he says the injuries, you know, the 921 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 3: the numbers started to pile up a little bit, and 922 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 3: and you're getting down to a point where you're worried 923 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 3: about your depth. And I'm sure, based especially on the 924 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 3: reactions from guys on the team when Gisel had success 925 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 3: last night and how everybody was for him, that was 926 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 3: a part of it. 927 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 4: The guys wanted him back on the team. 928 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 3: But it's okay to call a spade A spade teag 929 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,439 Speaker 3: and it's okay to say we were six and four, 930 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 3: the plans changed. We got to win. Yeah, everybody's dying 931 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 3: for them to win. Right, You put your leading score 932 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 3: back out on the floor and you see if maybe 933 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 3: that changes some things. 934 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, makes sense. And he looked good. 935 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 12: He looked efficient, He looked like he had been training 936 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 12: and keep it in shape. 937 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 16: There was a few lobs that were short that looked. 938 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 6: Like they needed some additional touch and you just have 939 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 6: to get back into actual game flow. 940 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 16: But he definitely looked good enough to be a plug 941 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 16: and play guy, which. 942 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 12: They need to have him be at that level. 943 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 16: As they go in the conference play. 944 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,920 Speaker 3: I think the plan was probably twelve to fifteen minutes, 945 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: but then Buck Harris has his back start acting up. 946 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 4: He only played three minutes. 947 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 3: Jisel gets twe When you're looking at Sunday afternoon against Clemson, 948 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 3: do you think it's twenty plus? Do you think twenty 949 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 3: is about the number? 950 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 7: Like? 951 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 4: Where do you think Gisel's minutes sit in that environment? 952 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think they'll play Gizzl much more in lieu 953 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 12: of playing Keishan Tillery much more, because that's a big 954 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 12: reason why Tillery played last night, was because since your 955 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 12: Harris missed so much or at least some of his 956 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 12: minutes where he was gonna. 957 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 16: Play regardless because they were upped so much, So. 958 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 6: That wouldn't surprise me at all. 959 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 16: It's just a completely different team when Gisel's on the 960 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 16: floor compared to since your hairs, because you can do 961 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 16: so much different stuff. You're much better offensively, but you're 962 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 16: definitely not as good defensively because since your Harris is 963 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 16: one of the better defenders in the Big twelve. So 964 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 16: that'll be interesting to see what the identity of the 965 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 16: team is and how they kind of react to Diesel 966 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 16: basically being the lead point guard on the floor, because 967 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 16: it wouldn't. 968 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 12: Surprise me if from that first Houston game a Big 969 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 12: twelve player that Chisels the starting point guard. Seeing how 970 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 12: kerk Krisa has struggled offensively and his ability to make. 971 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, the curR thing is interesting because seven assists 972 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 3: one turnover, Like for your your you know, one of 973 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 3: your primary ball handlers is outstanding, but there are you know, 974 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 3: diminishing returns. If that guy's also one of nine from three, 975 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 3: it's not great. The problem is Kegan, He's it feels 976 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 3: like he's getting good looks. It feels like he's open 977 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 3: and he's taking good shots. He's been a good shooter 978 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 3: his whole career. Right now, the ball was just not 979 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 3: going in for him. 980 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, and like they were counting on getting that West 981 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 12: Virginia kirkrias of the year before he transferred to Kentucky. 982 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 12: Then he goes to Kentucky, I think he plays in 983 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 12: nine games, gets hurt, and now he's. 984 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 6: Not really contributing that much and. 985 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 12: He's still taking a few questionable like step back, pretty 986 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 12: long s freeze. 987 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 16: But that's his game, that's what he that's what he 988 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 16: knows he can make, and he's just not making him 989 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 16: right now. 990 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,920 Speaker 12: So if he's going to continue to start, I would 991 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 12: like to see the volume go down a little bit, 992 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 12: maybe work it inside out. 993 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 16: Like we saw him stuffa chom do for the first. 994 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 12: Time, and westmoy brought that up postgame because when that happened, 995 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,600 Speaker 12: I was floored that they threw it into sham and 996 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,919 Speaker 12: then he immediately throws it back out to Baba who 997 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 12: makes a three. 998 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 6: That's a huge part of their offense that needs to 999 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 6: continue to develop. 1000 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 4: Speaking of Bob A. 1001 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 3: Miller, how stark is it the difference, especially in critical situations. 1002 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 3: You go back to the Louisville game when he when 1003 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 3: he had the hip injury, or the Georgia game when 1004 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,240 Speaker 3: he gets the foul and then the technical and has 1005 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 3: to go to the bench. Like, watching this team in 1006 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 3: pivotal situations with Boba Miller off the floor is pretty 1007 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 3: jarring in terms of how important it is for him 1008 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 3: to be on the floor for this team. 1009 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1010 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 12: Absolutely, he changes everything great in transition. He gandles the 1011 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 12: ball at the guard and he I. 1012 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,439 Speaker 16: Think did he make one or two threes left side? 1013 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 6: I know he made the early one. 1014 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 3: I don't think he he made he took it. He 1015 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,040 Speaker 3: took one early in the first half and made it. 1016 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 3: He took one early in the second half and missed it. 1017 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 3: So he's eleven for twelve, eight dunks, one made three, 1018 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 3: and then fourteen rebounds for twenty six points. 1019 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's the thing that he's been so good, but 1020 01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 12: he's not even touching the cusp of what he can 1021 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 12: do from shooting beyond the arc, and it feels like 1022 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 12: there's just another level that he can get to if 1023 01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 12: the offense can continue to kind of evolve and I 1024 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 12: asked him, like, how do you think you benefit from 1025 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 12: Jizsel being back, and he said, well, Gisel always makes 1026 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 12: the right read and he's always ready to make the 1027 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 12: right read. So I'm looking forward to seeing how much 1028 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 12: better can Baba get offensively with Jisel on the floor, 1029 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 12: because I feel like there's another step that he can take. 1030 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 12: But I did not expect him to be as good 1031 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 12: defensively and on the. 1032 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 16: Boards as he has been. That was completely shocking to me. 1033 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 12: But like when you think about it, the six to 1034 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 12: eleven frame and crazy length, that makes sense. He just 1035 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 12: plays a little bit harder than I thought he was going. 1036 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 6: To, which is a psych to see. 1037 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 4: Been an interesting point, Keg. 1038 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 3: And when you look at the best teams around the league, 1039 01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:08,920 Speaker 3: there's always that one two punch that you know, Toppen 1040 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 3: and Anderson at Texas Tech and Bradley and Pete at Arizona, 1041 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 3: and some teams have three or four guys because this 1042 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 3: league's so good, But you know Tuggler and Uzon and 1043 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Sharp at Houston. Does Gizsel and Baba actually give Cincinnati 1044 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 3: maybe not an upper echelon one two punch? Maybe not 1045 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,240 Speaker 3: with the best of the league. Darren Peterson and Floria, 1046 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 3: but Dona. I could keep going on it's ridiculous how 1047 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,000 Speaker 3: good this league is. But does this at least give 1048 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,840 Speaker 3: him a puncher's chance because they've now got, you know, 1049 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 3: those two guys that you can center things around and 1050 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 3: not have to be super creative on offense because I 1051 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 3: think we've learned over five years. Maybe that's not Wes 1052 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 3: Miller's forte. Maybe he needs a one to two punch. 1053 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe, And like I still think it really that 1054 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 12: specific question will come down to what Baba does from 1055 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 12: free and how much he can kind of score from everywhere. 1056 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 12: But like we saw with the behind the back path 1057 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 12: to Baba and transition for a dunk last night, like 1058 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 12: they already seem like they have the good chemistry. They 1059 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 12: both thrive on those plays. Like I've never been more 1060 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 12: impressed with Baba than just seeing him take two strides 1061 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 12: with which I feel like, take up like from the 1062 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 12: half yeah to the rim and then donks on like 1063 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 12: two people. So I think if you're wanting to get 1064 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,720 Speaker 12: out and pace and play that really fast brand. 1065 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 6: That really helps. But they're both. 1066 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 16: Talented enough to be that one two punch. I just 1067 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 16: want to see, does Gi will. 1068 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 12: Come back, and does he want to be an offensive 1069 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,840 Speaker 12: volume guy who's taken a ton of shots, or does 1070 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 12: he want to be a balance sky like we saw 1071 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 12: last night when he's kind of just easing his way 1072 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 12: back into it, because that's the offense looked really good 1073 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 12: when he just chose to, you know, facilitate a little bit, 1074 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 12: pass it around and when he gets his open shot, 1075 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,920 Speaker 12: take it and I want to see if Cincinnati can 1076 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 12: take advantage of him. 1077 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 4: Well was that? 1078 01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 3: Maybe the most surprising thing is how efficient the chisel was, 1079 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,440 Speaker 3: Like that's the gripe on jizzle, right, He's not the 1080 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 3: most efficient basketball player on the planet. Last night incredibly efficient. 1081 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, he was picking last night, like that's what I'll say, and. 1082 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 12: You were laughing when the first shot he took was 1083 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 12: a nineteen footer. 1084 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 3: He almost pulled another one the first time he touched 1085 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 3: the ball. 1086 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 6: And he passed. 1087 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 12: He wanted to shoot a really really low percenta's long 1088 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 12: mid range, which is what we're used to seeing him do. 1089 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 6: So I uh, he was very very good. 1090 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 12: Some of it was garbage time when Alabama State was 1091 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 12: out of it, but look, Cincinnati's issue a lot of 1092 01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,760 Speaker 12: the season has been missing open shots. So seeing some 1093 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 12: open shots go in from a guy who hasn't played 1094 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 12: all season is a really good sign. 1095 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 3: Let's let's get Sunday real quick. Do you give this 1096 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 3: team much of a chance against Clemson? Did did last 1097 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 3: night change anything in terms of how you look at 1098 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 3: that Clemson game? Because I think coming out of the 1099 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,959 Speaker 3: Georgia game, we all looked at it and said, no way, 1100 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 3: no how? Are you still a no way? 1101 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 9: No how? 1102 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 3: Or did the window crack a little bit for the 1103 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 3: game Sunday? And there is a way and the window 1104 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 3: crashed a little bit. But if I was a gambler, 1105 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 3: I would not be putting any money on Cincinnati to 1106 01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:54,520 Speaker 3: upset Clemson. 1107 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 12: I still haven't seen them really play well in a 1108 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 12: hostile environment, and that that Greenville crowd is going to 1109 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,520 Speaker 12: be heavy Clemson. 1110 01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 6: So I still think Clemson is. 1111 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 12: Going to win and they're going to go into Big 1112 01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 12: Twelve play kind of really scratching for anything. 1113 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 6: To go their way. 1114 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 3: Clemson is currently thirty first in Ken Palm, forty seventh 1115 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 3: on offense, thirty third on defense. They lost an early 1116 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,560 Speaker 3: game to Georgetown. Their other two losses are Alabama and BYU, 1117 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 3: neither of them at home. One away one neutral they have. 1118 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 3: They have beaten South Carolina, they beat Georgia, they beat 1119 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 3: West Virginia. It's it's not going to be an easy one, 1120 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,479 Speaker 3: but good measuring stick. If this team's going to get 1121 01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 3: back on track, they're going to have to be Clemson 1122 01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 3: on Sunday quickly. Football, Do they have you out there 1123 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 3: practicing for this Navy game or what are the numbers 1124 01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 3: look like? I was there earlier in the week in 1125 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 3: out the little finn out there, didn't it. 1126 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1127 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 12: I didn't play football in high school, but my high 1128 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 12: school ran the triple options, so I can. I can 1129 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 12: go out and give him some tips on how to 1130 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 12: defend it. 1131 01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 4: Are you running scout team quarterback? 1132 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 12: Kegan Nicholson, I'm running scout team quarterback with a look 1133 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,679 Speaker 12: at starting next season. 1134 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 6: Okay, I'd be a true goal threat guy. 1135 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,680 Speaker 3: But to either get sacked or be taken off the 1136 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 3: field on a stretcher. 1137 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 6: Yes, that's my ThReD ability. 1138 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,240 Speaker 3: Uh do they have anybody left in the secondary? 1139 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 10: Uh? 1140 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,799 Speaker 16: Yeah, They've got some true freshmen and red shirt freshman. 1141 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 6: And I don't know. 1142 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 12: If Matthew mcdoon is gonna play, but he's been with 1143 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:53,560 Speaker 12: the team, so that'll be interesting to see. The safeties 1144 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 12: are also like in large part gone, and I think 1145 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,280 Speaker 12: one guy to look out for is CJ Right, really 1146 01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,919 Speaker 12: Langsy safety who they they've. 1147 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 6: Put a lot of stock in. 1148 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 12: And then Patrick Williams is a corner. As I mentioned earlier, 1149 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 12: Tyson Bite is really really high on him, and I 1150 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 12: think anyone that is with the team and practicing right now, 1151 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,600 Speaker 12: Tyson Bite is really really. 1152 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,680 Speaker 6: Putting a lot of stock into. It's one of those 1153 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 6: things that. 1154 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,120 Speaker 12: He said at practice was look, if you're here practicing 1155 01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 12: right now, it means you love football. And we like 1156 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:32,519 Speaker 12: guys who love football. 1157 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,320 Speaker 6: So I'm not exactly worried about. 1158 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:42,720 Speaker 12: Carry because because the triple option is in a big 1159 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:43,479 Speaker 12: passing threat. 1160 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:44,799 Speaker 6: But we shall see. 1161 01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,040 Speaker 3: If you want to hear more from Kegan tonight, BCJ 1162 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 3: podcast eight o'clock on the Bearcat Journal YouTube channel, Keigan, 1163 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,800 Speaker 3: Dave Simone and I will We'll have plenty plenty more. 1164 01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir, and I'll talk to you tonight. All right, brother, yeh, 1165 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 3: all right, hey you go, that's gonna wrap up ower 1166 01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 3: number two. Let's take a break. 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Stream for free are the new and 1186 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 2: improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home 1187 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1188 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 3: Here we go our number three Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. 1189 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 3: Chad Brenda sitting in for mo Egger. Glad to have you. 1190 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 3: Thank you for choosing me. A lot of Bengals coming 1191 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 3: up here in hour three. Jay Morrison joins us here 1192 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 3: in about fifteen minutes or so. Get his thoughts on 1193 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 3: another very interesting week in Bengaledom. But first, I told 1194 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 3: you the phone lines are open all day, so we're 1195 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:24,799 Speaker 3: gonna go out to the phones. 1196 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 6: Bob and bowling Green. Bob, how the heck are you? 1197 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 1: Hey? 1198 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,479 Speaker 11: Ched? 1199 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,200 Speaker 10: I'm doing well. 1200 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 6: How about you? 1201 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm doing good. 1202 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,519 Speaker 3: It's a little gloomy, so it's not a bad day 1203 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 3: to waste away here in Kenwood. 1204 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 10: That's not much different down here either, So. 1205 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:42,200 Speaker 4: Bob, I got you. 1206 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:42,800 Speaker 7: Bob. 1207 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 4: Have you driven down to Nashville for in and out yet? 1208 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Well? 1209 01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 10: I have driven to Nashville, but not for in and out? 1210 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,400 Speaker 4: Have you had in and out before? 1211 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 10: I don't think I ever have. 1212 01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:57,479 Speaker 14: No. 1213 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 3: Would you wait in line for five hours for in 1214 01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 3: and out like some people did on the tenth? 1215 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:04,640 Speaker 6: I don't know. 1216 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. It's not five hours good. I'll tell 1217 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 3: you that much right now. 1218 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey, Ken, I've got a basketball question for you 1219 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 10: and a couple of football questions. 1220 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can. 1221 01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 10: Basketball wise, if Wes is not successful in keeping his 1222 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,880 Speaker 10: job at the end of this year, who would you 1223 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,440 Speaker 10: envision to be perhaps some of the leaguing candidates. 1224 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 3: I think there's two names that are probably the most 1225 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 3: popular in the fan base right now. 1226 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 4: One of them is. 1227 01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,759 Speaker 3: Josh Schertz, who is the head coach at Saint Louis. 1228 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,679 Speaker 3: You might remember him a couple of years back from 1229 01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 3: the NIT when Cincinnati played Indiana State with Ryan Conwell 1230 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 3: who eventually ended up at Xavier and is now at Louisville, 1231 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:07,679 Speaker 3: and Robbie Avila, Larry nerd As what's his nickname? Yeah, Uh, 1232 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 3: he is at Saint Louis now they are having an 1233 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 3: incredible season. Uh. 1234 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 4: And then the other name. 1235 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,400 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are monitoring one because 1236 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 3: he's he's a good coach, and two because of his ties. 1237 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 3: Not only is he an alumni of Cincinnati, where he 1238 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 3: worked as a graduate assistant under Bob Huggins, but also 1239 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,679 Speaker 3: coached at West Virginia as an assistant for five years 1240 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 3: under Huggins. And his name is Jared Calhoun. He is 1241 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 3: at Utah State and they are. They're having a very 1242 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 3: strong season as well. Tony Skin at George Mason would 1243 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:50,080 Speaker 3: be a name, uh to keep an eye on. You know, 1244 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,920 Speaker 3: there'll be others if the job does come open, that 1245 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 3: pop up. But at least for like the the hot 1246 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 3: names on the market, guys that it very much look 1247 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 3: like are going to get a chance to move up 1248 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 3: the ranks in this spring. 1249 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 4: Those are the big names so far. 1250 01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,200 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1251 01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:19,320 Speaker 10: And did Cincinnati even consider at any point perhaps bidding 1252 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 10: goodbye to West and looking at Pat Kelsey? 1253 01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 3: No, you have to remember that was Kelsey hadn't really 1254 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 3: you know, ascended. He had had a career very similar 1255 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 3: to Wes Miller at North Carolina Greensboro. When he was 1256 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,480 Speaker 3: at Winthrop, he was there for nine years, had success 1257 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 3: and then things hadn't really like spiked at Charleston yet 1258 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:49,679 Speaker 3: for him at that point in time. Plus you get 1259 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 3: into I just I think it's and I would. 1260 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 4: Say the same for Xavior. 1261 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 3: If you know, like hiring Jared Calhoun at Xavier, hiring 1262 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 3: a Cincinnati guy, you're hiring a Xavier guy at Cincinnati. 1263 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it if I was the athletic director, 1264 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 3: it would not be something I would uh venture into 1265 01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,479 Speaker 3: because I just think it puts your it puts your 1266 01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,559 Speaker 3: fan base in a in a tough spot if things 1267 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 3: don't go well, it's uh, we hired the Xavier guy, 1268 01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 3: and if things do go well, you you worry, you know, 1269 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 3: is he is he gonna leave? Because he's, you know, 1270 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 3: a guy with deep ties across town. So I don't 1271 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 3: think so. I know they didn't really at the time 1272 01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 3: because his name wasn't top of mind. It's easy to 1273 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people were doing it with 1274 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,839 Speaker 3: Kurt Signetti now too, he had not had his breakout 1275 01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 3: year yet. Uh, when Cincinnati was in the market for 1276 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 3: a coach, he did have that breakout year and then 1277 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 3: that led him to Indiana. You know, it's easy to 1278 01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,880 Speaker 3: look back on those and wonder, but I I really 1279 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 3: don't think Pat was that hot of a name on 1280 01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 3: the on the market at that point in time when 1281 01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,599 Speaker 3: Cincinnati was replacing John Brannon. 1282 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 10: Wait, you know what, you just made me think of something, 1283 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:10,559 Speaker 10: because I'm wondering if perhaps like a Chris Mack would 1284 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 10: ever enter their mind. 1285 01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so. No, They're not having 1286 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 3: a great year at Charleston right now. 1287 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, And I know things didn't go well in Louisville, 1288 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 10: but I I thought, uh, his time at Xavier, I 1289 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,880 Speaker 10: thought he was great. 1290 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes it's right place, right time, and you 1291 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 3: know it didn't work out at Louisville. I I like Chris. 1292 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,479 Speaker 3: I got to know Chris pretty well while he was here. 1293 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 3: I just don't think it's something that is wise in 1294 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,840 Speaker 3: the rivalry to go that route. 1295 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 4: It's not something I would do. 1296 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:56,800 Speaker 10: You remember the name kay Baker Snati then yeah, but 1297 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 10: Chad is it is it? With the transfer portal on 1298 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,479 Speaker 10: everything nowadays, I would imagine a new guy coming in, 1299 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 10: it's got to be much easier to get a competitive team. Correct. 1300 01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,480 Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean it depends on what happens to the market. 1301 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 3: You know, last year was insanity because teams were trying 1302 01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 3: to empty their NIL coffers because they knew the revenue 1303 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 3: share stuff was getting ready to start. NIL was going 1304 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,640 Speaker 3: to be changed. The market kind of exploded and there 1305 01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 3: were you know, everybody talks about, oh, they spent ten 1306 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 3: million on the roster. Yeah, that was probably five million 1307 01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,960 Speaker 3: for that roster the year earlier. And I think it's 1308 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,879 Speaker 3: going to level back out some I'm hearing it already. 1309 01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 3: I was talking to a football source at a very prominent, high, 1310 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 3: high level, you know, blue blood in college football, and 1311 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:58,799 Speaker 3: they had like a you know, like a mid level starter, 1312 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,080 Speaker 3: a guy that it wasn't a star, wasn't like an 1313 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 3: All American, All Conference type guy, but a solid starter. 1314 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,320 Speaker 3: That guy came into their GM and said, I want 1315 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 3: one point five million. GM said, well, here, here's six 1316 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. If you want one point five million compliances 1317 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 3: down the hall, you can put your name in the 1318 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 3: transfer portal because you're not getting one point five million here. 1319 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,800 Speaker 3: So it's gonna be interesting to see if the market 1320 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 3: stabilizes some. 1321 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,600 Speaker 6: If it does, then yeah you can. You can go 1322 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,720 Speaker 6: out and you can build a. 1323 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 3: Pretty competitive first year roster at a at a good price. 1324 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:37,240 Speaker 3: Last year was just insanity because there were guys that 1325 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,200 Speaker 3: were probably four hundred thousand dollars, guys that were getting 1326 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,520 Speaker 3: one point two one point three million in college basketball. 1327 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:50,280 Speaker 3: So until we see some stability, yeah, there's gonna be 1328 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 3: some guys that hit. There's gonna be some guys that don't. 1329 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,320 Speaker 3: I don't think it's as easy as people think it 1330 01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 3: is because you're you're probably paying a lot more than 1331 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:04,200 Speaker 3: you should for guys that are maybe you know, an 1332 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,559 Speaker 3: okay starter, a replacement level starter, or a bench guy 1333 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 3: that you're going to have to pay like an All 1334 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 3: conference player. It makes things difficult. 1335 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 11: Does does you see? 1336 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 10: Are they looking at some of the guys that have 1337 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 10: left over the last two years, especially guys who have 1338 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 10: done pretty well in their new spots, and go, why. 1339 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:31,559 Speaker 7: Couldn't we get that? 1340 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 10: Or these guys, Bob Well, like say a Victor Lockton 1341 01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 10: last year. 1342 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 4: Victor and Victor also learned a lesson. 1343 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 3: I think the problem at Cincinnati was Victor was convinced 1344 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,679 Speaker 3: he was a power forward and he wanted to play 1345 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 3: power forward. Now this is this is on the coach 1346 01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,759 Speaker 3: to tell him you're not a power forward, you're a center. 1347 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 3: But they gave him the opportunity to play power forward 1348 01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 3: and he wasn't very good at it, and. 1349 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:00,839 Speaker 6: They and he goes to Clemson. 1350 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,519 Speaker 3: They move him back to the five, and he looked 1351 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 3: a lot more like he did two years prior at Cincinnati. 1352 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 3: But like you know, I hear a lot of this 1353 01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,759 Speaker 3: and this is not you in general, Bob, but people 1354 01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,000 Speaker 3: will focus on like you know, Dylan Mitchell has one 1355 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 3: good game and must say, oh, look what you missed 1356 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 3: out on. When you look at his numbers, he's having 1357 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 3: the exact same year at Saint John's that he had 1358 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:26,360 Speaker 3: at Cincinnati. 1359 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,240 Speaker 4: I know last year at all and Dan. 1360 01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 3: Skillings like he have a really good game for Baylor 1361 01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 3: and people bring him up and then you watch him 1362 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,799 Speaker 3: play and you go, no, that's that's Dan Skillings. 1363 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,600 Speaker 4: That's that's what he looked like at Cincinnati. 1364 01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1365 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,719 Speaker 10: Well, I guess I'm thinking of CJ. Anthony and Tyler Betsy, And. 1366 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 3: Well, Tyler Betsy is no different than he was here. 1367 01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 3: I love CJ Anthony. C J Anthony's I mean, he's 1368 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 3: scoring twenty points on nineteen shots. Yeah, you'd have a 1369 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:57,880 Speaker 3: you'd have a panic attack if CJ. Anthony was getting 1370 01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 3: nineteen shots here, wouldn't you? 1371 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 11: Probably so, But I'll tell you what. 1372 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 10: There would have been times last. 1373 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:04,800 Speaker 7: Year or that. 1374 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that the problem with that game. 1375 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,519 Speaker 3: The problem with that was they had already agreed coming 1376 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 3: into the season that they were gonna sit him so 1377 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 3: that he could go somewhere else and play his senior year. 1378 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 3: I think he could have helped last year for sure. 1379 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,840 Speaker 3: I agree with that too, too. 1380 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,599 Speaker 10: All right, Chad, Oh, hey, one other things tell me this. 1381 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 10: It sort bees gone right. 1382 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so. 1383 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 10: Is there a chance or is this even possible? Are 1384 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 10: guys able to are they able to sign guys for 1385 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,599 Speaker 10: more than a year? 1386 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:41,599 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1387 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 3: That so there are And I've heard Soresby had a 1388 01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,599 Speaker 3: a buyout in his contract. Uh he signed for more 1389 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 3: than one year, so that he's gonna have to pay 1390 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:57,160 Speaker 3: some money back to Cincinnati for leaving. Okay, but so 1391 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 3: you I gotta run Bob terns in my ear yelling, 1392 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 3: but yeah, there is there are buyout clauses in those contracts, 1393 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,439 Speaker 3: and uh, team guys are gonna have to pay that 1394 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:11,000 Speaker 3: money back. All right, Thanks Bob, appreciate it. Have a 1395 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,479 Speaker 3: great Christmas. All right, let's take a break. Jay Morrison. 1396 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 3: Up next. Cincinnati's ESPN thirteen thirty. 1397 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:22,240 Speaker 8: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 1398 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:25,559 Speaker 9: Southbound seventy five. There's a disabled vehicle that is on 1399 01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 9: the off ramp to Hopple in Florence, Kentucky. It's an 1400 01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,600 Speaker 9: accident on Pleasant Valley Road at Oakbrook Drive and on 1401 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 9: Queens City Avenue. An accident over at Work Road. 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My goal was to 1413 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,880 Speaker 12: get off of my exit by the time I talk 1414 01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,400 Speaker 12: to you guys. So I am rolling from Hamilton into 1415 01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,280 Speaker 12: Fairfield right now. I don't have to worry about the 1416 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 12: highway traffic anymore. That's where most of the cuss words fly. 1417 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 4: Are you on your way to an Arby's near you? 1418 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,400 Speaker 16: I actually have one in iesight right now, but I 1419 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 16: am not going right past that to the bar. 1420 01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you could probably get some jalapeno poppers with 1421 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 3: some Bronco berry sauce and just finish those off on 1422 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 3: your way to the bar. 1423 01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 11: You know. 1424 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:58,639 Speaker 16: I did on my way to the stadium a little 1425 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,639 Speaker 16: earlier this afternoon. I did a little in the shopping 1426 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 16: and I swung into a Panera and I had a 1427 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 16: late heavy lunch. 1428 01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 6: Barbie's gonna have to wait. 1429 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 4: All right after the bar, after the bar. 1430 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:09,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1431 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Speaking of existential crises, Joe Burrow, What is going 1432 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 3: on in Joe's head? And I know we're all trying 1433 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,439 Speaker 3: to psychoanalyze. I had a theory earlier. How much of 1434 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 3: it is Joe wondering? Maybe leave some of that stuff? 1435 01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,120 Speaker 3: I demanded tea. I demanded, you know a lot of 1436 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,640 Speaker 3: things this offseason. I've had my hands and things. It 1437 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,559 Speaker 3: hasn't worked. Maybe I should step back. How many different 1438 01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 3: ways can we spin this? 1439 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 1: Uh? 1440 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 4: Trying to figure out what Joe's thinking right now? 1441 01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,080 Speaker 16: Now, there's a lot of different ways. I think we've 1442 01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,560 Speaker 16: only scratched the surface. But if you ask me, the 1443 01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,519 Speaker 16: big part of it coming back, I don't know. After 1444 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 16: that Buffalo loss was the postgame press conference. There is 1445 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:55,680 Speaker 16: when it. 1446 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 6: Really seemed different, and I just see he. 1447 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,080 Speaker 16: Said it's it's personal and football is there's something going 1448 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 16: on in his personal life. Everybody knows how when something 1449 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 16: like that's going on, it can affect your work. And 1450 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,960 Speaker 16: most people's work isn't as public as Joe Burrow. So 1451 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:10,920 Speaker 16: we don't know what's. 1452 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 6: Going on there. 1453 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 16: But I think he worked his thought off to get back. Yeah, 1454 01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,080 Speaker 16: and I just think there's some real disappointment. 1455 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 12: And I don't know if regrets the right word, but 1456 01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 12: you go. I mean, any rehab is far, but you 1457 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 12: work so hard that you get back a month or 1458 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 12: so early, and then you lose and it's kind of 1459 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 12: over and you kind of like, why did I go 1460 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 12: through all that? 1461 01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 6: And so I thought that was. 1462 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 16: Part of it, and plus just the way that that 1463 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 16: loss happened, where yeah, seven of the points were on him, 1464 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 16: but it's still it's a game where the opponents. 1465 01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,599 Speaker 6: Scores thirty nine and how many times have we seen 1466 01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:46,880 Speaker 6: the Bengals. 1467 01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 16: Score thirty something and still lose? And just the crop 1468 01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,639 Speaker 16: the thought has to be cropping into his head again, 1469 01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 16: here we go again? Is this ever going to change? 1470 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 16: It's two years in a row where thirty plus points 1471 01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 16: is not enough to win games, And so I think 1472 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,000 Speaker 16: it's just all kind of building up. And I don't 1473 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 16: I don't know that there's anything, any specific plan, any 1474 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:08,720 Speaker 16: method to his madness in terms of the. 1475 01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 6: Comments he's putting out there. And the one thing I. 1476 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:15,759 Speaker 16: Do think is legit and I don't think it's lip service, 1477 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:19,599 Speaker 16: is he really does endorse Zach and this coaching staff, 1478 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:23,200 Speaker 16: and I think changes that he would like to see 1479 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,839 Speaker 16: be made would be more in the the the overall 1480 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 16: bigger picture of front office type of thing. But he's 1481 01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 16: not gonna, he's not gonna he's not gonna push for 1482 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 16: any specific changes, but he did say he would like 1483 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 16: to be kept abreast of what's going on there. 1484 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is Jay when I look at it. 1485 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:45,080 Speaker 3: Did they have to be better at drafting? Yes, of course, yeah, 1486 01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 3: But I thought the plan was right right, Like, you 1487 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 3: knew Joe's contract was coming up, you knew you needed 1488 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,519 Speaker 3: help on defense. So you go and you get a 1489 01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 3: bunch of young guys on defense spread out over two 1490 01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 3: three drafts, and you hope, like, did you answer your 1491 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 3: problems that way? And unfortunately they just haven't hit at 1492 01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,240 Speaker 3: a high enough rate. I mean, you look at some 1493 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 3: teams around the NFL. I know the Rams are one 1494 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,679 Speaker 3: of them. When you look at their last three drafts, 1495 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 3: it's like starter, starter, starter, fifth sixth round, starter, starter. 1496 01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,240 Speaker 3: And you look at the Bengals and it's like, ugh, 1497 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:20,800 Speaker 3: I don't know about that guy. Oh they cut that 1498 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 3: guy like six weeks after they drafted him. Like that's 1499 01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:26,600 Speaker 3: got to be part of the frustration. 1500 01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 7: Right. 1501 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,639 Speaker 3: It feels like the plan, what they wanted to do, 1502 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 3: was right, but the execution of said plan has got 1503 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:35,839 Speaker 3: to improve. 1504 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 4: If this situation is going to improve. 1505 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:40,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, somewhat. 1506 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 16: But I still go back to free agency, and yeah, this. 1507 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:44,360 Speaker 6: Is in hindsight. 1508 01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,439 Speaker 16: We everybody knew in March they needed to improve it safety, 1509 01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,639 Speaker 16: and they didn't sign one, and they didn't draft one. 1510 01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:50,880 Speaker 6: And they needed help. 1511 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,320 Speaker 16: At linebacker and they didn't sign one, and they waited 1512 01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,720 Speaker 16: and drafted two and at the second fourth round, and 1513 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,920 Speaker 16: now those guys are starting and going through some serious 1514 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:02,840 Speaker 16: growing pains. They needed a pass rushing three technique, didn't 1515 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:06,240 Speaker 16: sign one, didn't draft one, went ahead and signed a 1516 01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 16: run stopping defensive tackle. It's just the needs were so glaring, 1517 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:11,880 Speaker 16: and they just. 1518 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,800 Speaker 6: Blew him off. And part of the reason they blew them. 1519 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 16: Off is because they tried to hammer every little penny 1520 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,639 Speaker 16: out of the Jamar and Tea contracts, and it carried 1521 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,679 Speaker 16: over into free agency and by the time they finally 1522 01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 16: got those deals done, So I think that's part of it. 1523 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,320 Speaker 16: I think the front office dragging its feet so often 1524 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,519 Speaker 16: and trying to just bleed every single penny out of 1525 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 16: every single negotiation, you kind of get away from that 1526 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:39,120 Speaker 16: and just it's a guy. You need a position, you 1527 01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,600 Speaker 16: need go get him and you know, maybe take a 1528 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,679 Speaker 16: little bit of a hit, maybe overspend a little bit, 1529 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,400 Speaker 16: just to get it done and get the plan moving. 1530 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1531 01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean that that part has been their mo for 1532 01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,800 Speaker 3: so long, and there have been a couple exceptions here 1533 01:30:54,840 --> 01:31:01,840 Speaker 3: and there, but it feels like we've seen this many times. 1534 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,120 Speaker 3: I think throughout the years, a lot of times they're 1535 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 3: one year late, Like they're one year late to realize. Oh, like, 1536 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 3: if they do it this offseason, it's gonna be one 1537 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,560 Speaker 3: year late because they could have been active and proactive 1538 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:19,080 Speaker 3: last year and change this situation, and instead they waited 1539 01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,160 Speaker 3: a year just to just to make sure that they're 1540 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,480 Speaker 3: bad ideas were actually bad ideas. 1541 01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 16: Yeah, And I just like, you know, they knew they 1542 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 16: were gonna ask genostone to take a pay cut. So 1543 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 16: that's your plan, is to ask your starting safety to 1544 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,760 Speaker 16: take a pay cut, but not go get help or 1545 01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:38,760 Speaker 16: get somebody that can compete for the job. 1546 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:39,040 Speaker 1: There. 1547 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,559 Speaker 16: It just it's really head scratching some of the moves. 1548 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:43,760 Speaker 16: And you can debate whether it's smart or not to 1549 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 16: sign tee when you've already got Jamar I think you 1550 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,519 Speaker 16: look at what this offense is, and now this offense 1551 01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,639 Speaker 16: is set, This entire offense is going to be back 1552 01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:54,719 Speaker 16: next year. So they are set up in that regard. 1553 01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,640 Speaker 16: But they've just they need to come up with a 1554 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,320 Speaker 16: real plan this offseason to fix that defense. And they've 1555 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,800 Speaker 16: got the eighth most gap space. They've got money to 1556 01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 16: go out and sign guys in free agency, and they, 1557 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,679 Speaker 16: like you said, they have got to do a better 1558 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,519 Speaker 16: job in the draft this year, and that needs to 1559 01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 16: be a defensive heavy draft. 1560 01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:17,879 Speaker 3: Once again, I know nobody is going to tank. It's 1561 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:21,680 Speaker 3: a taboo word, and players are gonna play hard. But 1562 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,880 Speaker 3: how much of the best interest is it for Cincinnati 1563 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,760 Speaker 3: to lose? What's the range right now? I think they could. 1564 01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 3: They could draft anywhere from second to sixteenth, depending on 1565 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,559 Speaker 3: how these last three games go. We have seen this 1566 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 3: front office capitalize when they're near the top of the draft. 1567 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,160 Speaker 3: We've seen them really struggle when they're in those those 1568 01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:46,719 Speaker 3: late teens, early twenties, whatever. I'd never I think maybe 1569 01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,639 Speaker 3: a Times team should tank, but that's not how players' 1570 01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 3: minds work. I've been around you know enough players to 1571 01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:55,400 Speaker 3: know they're gonna play hard through the end. Does it 1572 01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,720 Speaker 3: benefit them if they lose these last three or are 1573 01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:01,840 Speaker 3: two of these last three? How much does it benefit them? 1574 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,320 Speaker 3: I guess I think it definitely does benefit them. 1575 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it would help with the draft position. 1576 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 16: But you know, I know there is the report this 1577 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,479 Speaker 16: week and Zach's got two more years on his contract 1578 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 16: and he's most likely back. 1579 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,880 Speaker 6: But it's not a rubber stamp. 1580 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 16: I mean, if two of the next three games are 1581 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:21,720 Speaker 16: losses and they look like last week against Baltimore, then 1582 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,680 Speaker 16: then maybe this thing does get blown up. And so 1583 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,040 Speaker 16: I don't think that benefits anybody. I know the fans 1584 01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:30,720 Speaker 16: would like to see a change there, but the continuity 1585 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 16: is important, especially when you got the entire offense coming back. 1586 01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 16: You would think you would want to play caller and 1587 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,280 Speaker 16: the head coach back. I just you're right, you can't 1588 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,559 Speaker 16: thank you can't play NFL football half speed. You're gonna 1589 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,400 Speaker 16: get hurt. You're gonna get other people hurt. The players 1590 01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 16: are playing to win. Now when it's ten degrees and 1591 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 16: the ankles start hurting, and you know, maybe maybe the 1592 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,320 Speaker 16: focus wanes a little bit and the want to is 1593 01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,519 Speaker 16: not quite there. You know, go, Yeah, a lot of 1594 01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:01,120 Speaker 16: ankles going down to Miami. The weather's gonna be nice. 1595 01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 16: I do think that they are embarrassed by what happens Sunday. 1596 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,280 Speaker 16: I think they're gonna go down there with something to prove, 1597 01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:11,880 Speaker 16: and not just Miami. But these last three games. Will 1598 01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:15,040 Speaker 16: it have any bearing on carrying momentum into twenty twenty six, I. 1599 01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:15,519 Speaker 6: Don't think so. 1600 01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 16: But it'll make them feel a lot better about this 1601 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,240 Speaker 16: season and what the plan can look like moving forward, 1602 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,760 Speaker 16: And especially for those young guys on defense, if they 1603 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 16: can get some real momentum and some more reps and 1604 01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,080 Speaker 16: some more experience, everything's valuable this at the stage for 1605 01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:32,000 Speaker 16: those guys. 1606 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,840 Speaker 6: So yep, it would help. 1607 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:35,640 Speaker 16: They would definitely get a better draft pick if they 1608 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 16: lose these games. 1609 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:37,120 Speaker 6: But I don't think. 1610 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,360 Speaker 16: Anybody in that organization, from front office to coaches to 1611 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:41,920 Speaker 16: players wants that to happen. 1612 01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:49,360 Speaker 3: Play well and lose. What's that play well and lose? Well, 1613 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:54,040 Speaker 3: yeah there you go. Yeah, yeah, everybody. Everybody feels good 1614 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,479 Speaker 3: about it, and you still improve your draft stock. Well, 1615 01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,639 Speaker 3: you've talked about this number a lot this week. Why 1616 01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 3: is this team so bad against rookie quarterbacks? It's insane. H. 1617 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,880 Speaker 16: I have no idea because it's it's I mean, it's 1618 01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 16: all the way back to the start of time for 1619 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:10,200 Speaker 16: this ranch. 1620 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole franchise is bad against rookie quarterbacks. 1621 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:18,640 Speaker 16: Yeah, different coaches, different, different defensive coordinators, different everything. I 1622 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,720 Speaker 16: think part of it is just the law of averages. 1623 01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,559 Speaker 16: This team is bad more. 1624 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,559 Speaker 12: Than it's good, and when it's bad, it tends to 1625 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:29,439 Speaker 12: be really bad. Yeah, and so I think that's a big. 1626 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:29,680 Speaker 6: Part of it. 1627 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,880 Speaker 16: And you know, they're eight and fourteen against quarterbacks making 1628 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,479 Speaker 16: their NFL starting debuts, and then forget about the starting debut, 1629 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 16: just rookie quarterbacks in general are twelve and four in 1630 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,120 Speaker 16: the last sixteen, so the quarterbacks are. The Bengals are 1631 01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,280 Speaker 16: four and twelve against rookie quarterbacks. So it's and that 1632 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 16: goes back to mid twenty tens and back to twenty sixteen. 1633 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 16: So multiple defensive coordinators, multiple coaches, it's just it's a 1634 01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:57,040 Speaker 16: it's a. 1635 01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 6: Stunning number, it really is, and it's kind of. 1636 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,880 Speaker 16: Like covering tide. Just for whatever reason, it's something this 1637 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 16: franchise has never been able to figure out. 1638 01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:11,240 Speaker 3: Do you think the weather helps getting out of the cold. 1639 01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,719 Speaker 3: It looked like they just they were frostbit on Sunday. 1640 01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:17,800 Speaker 3: Do you think maybe a week to get down into 1641 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:20,800 Speaker 3: the nice sun in Miami like refreshes some guys maybe 1642 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 3: for this stretch run. 1643 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:25,120 Speaker 16: Yeah, I think so, And I don't think they were 1644 01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:26,920 Speaker 16: alone in that. I think if you were to go 1645 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,879 Speaker 16: back and look at games that were in the teams 1646 01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 16: or single digits, I bet there's very few comebacks like 1647 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 16: can you fall behind by a score? Get out of here? 1648 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 16: Like I said, the focus kind of wings and the 1649 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,759 Speaker 16: want to to stick your nose in there and tackle. 1650 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:43,640 Speaker 16: It's like, let's just get this game over with. 1651 01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,360 Speaker 6: So I do think that was a big part of it, 1652 01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:47,680 Speaker 6: and not. 1653 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,599 Speaker 16: An excuse because the Ravens played in that weather. 1654 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 6: Too, and they just wanted it more and looked like it. 1655 01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 16: But I do think it'll help to go down to 1656 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,160 Speaker 16: Miami and just play a game in good weather and 1657 01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 16: maybe a little too hot, I mean eighty one degrees 1658 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,280 Speaker 16: this time of year. The body is not going to 1659 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:05,120 Speaker 16: be used to that, and I think hydration is going 1660 01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 16: to be a big factors. I know that's something they're 1661 01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:09,880 Speaker 16: working on this week. You can't wait till the night 1662 01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:10,599 Speaker 16: before the game. 1663 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:11,160 Speaker 6: To get hydrated. 1664 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,880 Speaker 16: But I do think it'll help to go down there 1665 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 16: and they can play their best football, especially the way 1666 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:17,000 Speaker 16: this offensive plays. 1667 01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 6: You want to play in weather like that? Yeah? 1668 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,000 Speaker 4: Where can I find you? Jay? 1669 01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:23,320 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1670 01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:27,760 Speaker 16: On Exit by Jay Morrison and on the Growler podcast 1671 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:32,760 Speaker 16: on YouTube and Spotify, Apple podcasts, all the podcast platforms, 1672 01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,040 Speaker 16: Bengals Talk dot Com. As you mentioned on the open 1673 01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:41,200 Speaker 16: all my stories are up there, and really if you 1674 01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,639 Speaker 16: can't find on one of those three places, just listen 1675 01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:44,200 Speaker 16: to this show. 1676 01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,760 Speaker 3: There you go, Thanks, Hey, appreciate it. Have a great holiday, man, 1677 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,120 Speaker 3: Thanks Jed. All Right, there you go. That's Jay Morrison. 1678 01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:53,440 Speaker 3: Let's take a break. We're after this. 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It is an accident on the left shoulder. 1688 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,599 Speaker 9: This is on the Ohio side between two seventy five 1689 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,639 Speaker 9: and Union Center Boulevard, with a fifteen minute delay back 1690 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,280 Speaker 9: from Glendale Milford Road. Also an accident State Route one 1691 01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,719 Speaker 9: thirty two at Benton Road. I'm at ezelic with traffic. 1692 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,520 Speaker 4: This report is sponsoring. 1693 01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,000 Speaker 6: Are you ready for some football? 1694 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,760 Speaker 4: We are borrow to chase happens here. This is the 1695 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 4: official home of the Bengals. 1696 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,440 Speaker 16: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1697 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:08,840 Speaker 12: Go. 1698 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:19,240 Speaker 4: Happy birthday, right, Aaron Yes birthday to Goggle. 1699 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:23,919 Speaker 5: The birthday was thrown cloth Steve. 1700 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,479 Speaker 3: Off Nice, you know who I share a birthday with, 1701 01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 3: Quick eminem quick me and slim Shady. 1702 01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:43,040 Speaker 5: With a ready with a real Chad Brindle. 1703 01:39:43,320 --> 01:39:51,519 Speaker 3: Please stand up, please stand up, Please stand up. Closing 1704 01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,479 Speaker 3: things out today, close them out with a couple of 1705 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 3: thoughts on on the Joe Burrows stuff. And we didn't 1706 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,280 Speaker 3: get to Zach Taylor today. I don't know what you 1707 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,439 Speaker 3: want me to say about that. He's got two years 1708 01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 3: left on his contract. As we discovered yesterday, the Bengals 1709 01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,680 Speaker 3: are the Bengals. I don't know why they didn't announce 1710 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,160 Speaker 3: that they signed Zach Taylor to an extension after the 1711 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:19,599 Speaker 3: AFC Championship Game. You know, you go to the Super Bowl, 1712 01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,120 Speaker 3: you go to the AFC Championship Game, nobody's going to 1713 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,960 Speaker 3: be mad at you for extending your coach. Why was 1714 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,200 Speaker 3: that a secret? Why are we just finding out about 1715 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:33,440 Speaker 3: that three years later? That's weird to me. It's weird. 1716 01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 3: It's your prerogative if you want to do things in silence, 1717 01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,080 Speaker 3: and part of the reason you do things in silence 1718 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,040 Speaker 3: is because nobody ever talks. Nobody in the Bengals front 1719 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,680 Speaker 3: office does what twice a year get Duke Tobin at 1720 01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:49,880 Speaker 3: the Combine and you get Mock Turtle Soup Day And 1721 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,080 Speaker 3: those are the two days a year you hear from 1722 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 3: the people that run the Bengals. So I'm not surprised 1723 01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,559 Speaker 3: that he signed a contract extension and we didn't know 1724 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:04,200 Speaker 3: about it. But why wouldn't you champion that you have 1725 01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:05,560 Speaker 3: a coach that took you to the Super Bowl in 1726 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,120 Speaker 3: the AFC Championship Game in back to back years for 1727 01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:10,599 Speaker 3: one of the worst franchises in the history of sports. 1728 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:13,360 Speaker 4: Should want to talk about that. 1729 01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:21,160 Speaker 3: But the Burrow stuff, whatever, it is professional, personal whatever 1730 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,880 Speaker 3: it is, the Bengals better figure it out and fix it. 1731 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:30,240 Speaker 3: Because if you think perception is bad about this franchise 1732 01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 3: now in part because of what happened with Carson Palmer, Yeah, 1733 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 3: number one overall pick. He wasn't a bust, he was 1734 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:48,920 Speaker 3: very good, and he retired instead of playing. Here they 1735 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:52,800 Speaker 3: got lucky that the Raiders were desperate and willing to 1736 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,840 Speaker 3: overpay because Carson Palmer said, screw this. 1737 01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:57,519 Speaker 4: I'm out get you a gang. 1738 01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:02,720 Speaker 3: And that's what Carson Palmer's said to Mike Brown, How 1739 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,920 Speaker 3: was my cartman tarn? Was that pretty good? I about 1740 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,879 Speaker 3: to stick that to you? Okay, Yeah, I mean it's 1741 01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:13,080 Speaker 3: not a great one. But you know, if that happens again, 1742 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:20,000 Speaker 3: if you have a generational another generational number one pick, 1743 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:28,200 Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow's better than Carson Palmer, significantly better if 1744 01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 3: you let it happen again. And we're sitting here at 1745 01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,479 Speaker 3: the end of the twenty twenty six or twenty twenty 1746 01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:39,280 Speaker 3: seven season, and Joe Burrow says, I went out and 1747 01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:43,160 Speaker 3: that story hits Joe Burrow demands a trade. Joe Burrow 1748 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,600 Speaker 3: willing to retire instead of playing another snap of the 1749 01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals you're talking irrepairable damage to your franchise. I 1750 01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 3: don't know that you can come back from that. 1751 01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:00,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it. 1752 01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,639 Speaker 3: Because guess what, Like you know, everybody was talking about 1753 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:09,840 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow should decline being drafted number one overall by 1754 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:14,559 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals should have decline. Say no, I'm not signing. 1755 01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 3: Whatever the consequences are. The consequences, but I'm not signing 1756 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,439 Speaker 3: with that franchise. We laughed it off. Come on, the 1757 01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:26,680 Speaker 3: Carson Palmer thing was a one off, diva you know 1758 01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,600 Speaker 3: nothing to real. But if it happens again with a 1759 01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,759 Speaker 3: kid from Ohio that took you to the Super Bowl, 1760 01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 3: took you to the AFC Championship Game, and four five 1761 01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:43,840 Speaker 3: years later that guy once out, I don't know how 1762 01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:47,920 Speaker 3: as a franchise you ever recover. And they're never gonna sell. 1763 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 3: It's a family business. It's never gonna happen. So whatever 1764 01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:58,240 Speaker 3: it is, whatever is at the root of this, you 1765 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:03,280 Speaker 3: better figure it out this offseason. If it's ten more 1766 01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,599 Speaker 3: scouts in that scouting department, go hire ten more scouts 1767 01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:07,599 Speaker 3: in the scouting department. 1768 01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm available. 1769 01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:15,800 Speaker 3: I'm available too. I'm pretty good at it. More basketball 1770 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,280 Speaker 3: than football. I'm pretty good at basketball scouting football. They 1771 01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:24,679 Speaker 3: talk about things like swiveling hips. I'm not watching anybody's 1772 01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:31,880 Speaker 3: hips tearing. I'll watch footwork, I'll watch shot preparation. I'm 1773 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,639 Speaker 3: not watching how anybody's hips swivel. It's not my thing. 1774 01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 4: But whatever it is, you better get this figured out. 1775 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:43,520 Speaker 3: You better get on the same page as Joe Burrow, 1776 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,639 Speaker 3: because this franchise is only as good as Joe Burrow 1777 01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:51,559 Speaker 3: takes them, and even then sometimes it's not good enough. 1778 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 3: That's gonna do it begos pep rally tomorrow. I'll be 1779 01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,479 Speaker 3: in next week a couple times, so we'll see you then. 1780 01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,280 Speaker 4: That is the Mowagger Show. 1781 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 3: This says Cincinnati is ESPN in fifteen thirty. 1782 01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,360 Speaker 4: And I'm listening to the radio. 1783 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:11,479 Speaker 6: I'm listening to a. 1784 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,000 Speaker 4: Sad girl sang sang about it. 1785 01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,520 Speaker 17: He got a cord Rod movie too. 1786 01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,120 Speaker 6: I just want myself to that Duro. 1787 01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:25,720 Speaker 17: When you only gets Fidel, don't act this. 1788 01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 6: If you did, you talk? She let me play with her. 1789 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,000 Speaker 17: I'm working late, I said, I'll soon be home. All 1790 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,640 Speaker 17: about the girl was home. Let me tell you what 1791 01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:38,400 Speaker 17: your crime? 1792 01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:38,960 Speaker 7: Phone? 1793 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:40,000 Speaker 1: Why? 1794 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:47,200 Speaker 6: Because I'm flying super flyn Nate, I'm flying. 1795 01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:49,760 Speaker 7: You know need super fly with me. 1796 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,280 Speaker 6: I'm sitting with Duper and I'm super duper fly. 1797 01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:57,720 Speaker 8: Fly Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty traffic. 1798 01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:01,040 Speaker 9: Northbound seventy five. It is an exodent on the left shoulder. 1799 01:46:01,080 --> 01:46:03,720 Speaker 9: This is on the Ohio side between two seventy five 1800 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,800 Speaker 9: and Union Center Boulevard, with a fifteen minute delay back 1801 01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:10,360 Speaker 9: from Glendale Milford Road. Also an accident State Route one 1802 01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,240 Speaker 9: point thirty two at Benton Road. I'm at Ezelic with 1803 01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 4: Traffic from the Wyoming Air Tempstar Weather