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Speaker 2: All right, let's play.

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Speaker 3: We'll start things with the team actually playing tonight, that

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Speaker 1: Time now for the obligatory Kevin Faulness Minnesota Wild Mintionit.

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Speaker 3: Have I gotten a text I led with the walls

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Speaker 4: What was gonna sell out night at Prudential Center with

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Speaker 3: Well, you get home cooking tomorrow night against the Mammoth

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Speaker 3: I've watched one count on one postseason baseball game this year,

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Speaker 2: Levell well E Neil the third questions for him? Did

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Speaker 2: Friday Regular. Did I see you live tweeting from a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's correct. Lee and Penny Anderson Arena at the

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Speaker 2: Was it emotional?

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Speaker 6: Well, your guy guess who dropped the ceremony of first pluck,

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Speaker 6: story to have that in there, because he was making

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Speaker 6: a five million a year at Tennessee. I believe before

434
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Speaker 6: the Giant contact good money. But I'm fascinated. I'm fascinated.

435
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Speaker 6: The Giants have gone outside the box a couple of times,

436
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Speaker 6: you know, after Bruce Bochi left. They tried to go

437
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Speaker 6: with Gabe Kapler, you know, just analytics himself. That didn't

438
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Speaker 6: work out, and tried Bob Melvin that didn't work out,

439
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Speaker 6: you know, and uh, now they're going in another direction.

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Speaker 2: Outstanding, by the way, is the story true. Did I

441
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Speaker 2: read somewhere that the Twins did contact Tory hunter, but

442
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Speaker 2: and he did not want to interview for the manager

443
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Speaker 2: job here.

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Speaker 6: I checked on that this morning. I was told, oh,

445
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Speaker 6: I'll tell you Tory told me it's fault. That's not

446
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Speaker 6: true there but no conversation. Interesting someone with the Twins

447
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Speaker 6: told me it was false as well it could be

448
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Speaker 6: at this point.

449
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Speaker 4: Uh.

450
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Speaker 6: I didn't get clarification exactly why there hasn't been contact,

451
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Speaker 6: but he is not He has definitely not turned down off.

452
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Speaker 6: Uh Uh offered did.

453
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Speaker 2: You sense that he would be interested or not so much?

454
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Speaker 2: Do you can you tell?

455
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Speaker 6: I think he'd like to have a conversation. He did

456
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Speaker 6: an interview with the with the Angels before he decide

457
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Speaker 6: to uh h kurtain Gookie, So I'm guessing he's thinking

458
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Speaker 6: about it. And like I said, I'm I'm curious how

459
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Speaker 6: that would work, given just demands on him outside the

460
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Speaker 6: game with his businesses. But he's been a special assistant

461
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Speaker 6: for the last couple of years with the Angels and

462
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Speaker 6: he's been uh in their dugout, So maybe that has

463
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Speaker 6: got the juice spawn here. So we'll see. I get

464
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Speaker 6: I got feeling that like a week from now, we'll

465
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Speaker 6: know who the next Twins manager is. Going to be

466
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Speaker 6: I think it's going to come down next quick.

467
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Speaker 2: Do you think it's gonna come down when? Did you

468
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Speaker 2: say pretty quickly?

469
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Speaker 6: I think I think we may know who to know

470
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Speaker 6: who it is. I think it could be announcement in

471
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Speaker 6: the week. I think the twins want to get this

472
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Speaker 6: done sooner than later, especially when there's multiple job openings

473
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Speaker 6: in the Weeds. So and last time they when they

474
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Speaker 6: hired Rocco, it was in between Games two and three

475
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Speaker 6: of the World Series. So I'm looking at Sunday, which

476
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Speaker 6: is an off day, and Thursday, which is an off day,

477
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Speaker 6: as possibilities. Maybe if An.

478
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Speaker 2: You had a nice conversation with Rocco, I think the

479
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Speaker 2: first time he has spoken publicly since the dismissal. What

480
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Speaker 2: was the vibe? What did you get out of What

481
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Speaker 2: did you take out of your conversation with with the

482
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Speaker 2: bal Dali Lama.

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Speaker 6: I felt like I was talking to a very comfortable,

484
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Speaker 6: content man at the time. He wasn't bitter, he didn't

485
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Speaker 6: have an ax to grind, he didn't want a badmouth

486
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Speaker 6: the organization. He's really happy being able to be a

487
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Speaker 6: dad with its three kids. Now you spend time with

488
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Speaker 6: his family and kind of ease into things. So I'm

489
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Speaker 6: said to that he's going to take your off. It

490
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Speaker 6: also helps stand that since the Twins picked up his

491
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Speaker 6: option for twenty twenty six, Yeah, he's getting paid, not doing.

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Speaker 2: Any beautiful though. Sure what's the hurry?

493
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Speaker 6: No, no hurry. So I think it's going to ease

494
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Speaker 6: into it. And I got the sense that he could

495
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Speaker 6: have had opportunities to interview for mangerial jobs if he

496
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Speaker 6: wanted to, but he opted not to. So I think

497
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Speaker 6: he's just going to wait a year, kind of ease

498
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Speaker 6: into things and take the right situation.

499
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Speaker 2: To be in. I never thought we talked this much baseball,

500
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Speaker 2: but I think this stuff is actually relevant. Let's talk

501
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: about Otani's night. I mean everybody's I think the game's

502
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: getting a little silly about Well, was this the greatest

503
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Speaker 2: moment in baseball history or even sports history? I don't know,

504
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: but it's got to be right there with pretty much

505
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Speaker 2: all of them. So what was your reaction to it?

506
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 2: Were you watching it live? And are we seeing something

507
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Speaker 2: that we've just never seen before and are likely to

508
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Speaker 2: never see again.

509
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Speaker 6: I think it's something we may never see again because

510
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 6: there's been enough time for another old tawny to emerge,

511
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Speaker 6: and that person has not presented himself as there hasn't

512
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Speaker 6: been someone who's tried to hit and pitch at a

513
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Speaker 6: high level, Like yes, there are a couple of guys

514
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Speaker 6: that are drafted out of college years ago who had

515
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Speaker 6: that type of potential, but it didn't work out. Its

516
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Speaker 6: working out with Otani at a ridiculous ub Right, I

517
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Speaker 6: was at where was I? I was covering an event,

518
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Speaker 6: so I wasn't able to watch that game, and I

519
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 6: was just getting updates. I think I thought the wild game.

520
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 6: I think it's a wild game. I think that's what

521
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Speaker 6: it was. And I was getting updates on him hitting

522
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Speaker 6: home runs and striking out ten over six innings, and

523
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Speaker 6: my job was dropping in the press box at all this,

524
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Speaker 6: and I'm telling the other riders this and they couldn't believe.

525
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Speaker 6: I mean, let's once again we may be seeing stuff,

526
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Speaker 6: but that made it happen in baseball game. The guy

527
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Speaker 6: shrinking out ten and going three times, that's just that's

528
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Speaker 6: just unbelievable, un remarkable. And I talked to Roy smiling

529
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Speaker 6: about Otani, and Roy just marvels at this guy's uh

530
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Speaker 6: weight shifting and how he's able to get the pitches

531
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Speaker 6: all over the play, and he will he will expand

532
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Speaker 6: his strikes and still will make a deadly contact, not

533
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Speaker 6: just get the battleball contact to a blue rig baseball.

534
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Speaker 6: And there may be another, not another here to like

535
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Speaker 6: him in terms of the power pitching combination.

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Speaker 2: Are the Vikings in serious and deep trouble?

537
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Speaker 6: Absolutely they're not. They're not playing well in addition to

538
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Speaker 6: being injured, which every team in the NFL is. We've

539
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 6: had this conversation before. They're not playing well. You know,

540
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Speaker 6: the penalties, that's lack of discipline, and that's on the

541
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Speaker 6: individual as well as the coaches staff. Carson Wentz. You know,

542
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Speaker 6: I'll give him credit for gutting it out on Thursday,

543
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Speaker 6: but there's a reason why he wasn't signed by a

544
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Speaker 6: team when Pulling the Vikings signed him, you know, at

545
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Speaker 6: the most important position on the field. Uh, the Vikings

546
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Speaker 6: were messing with a guy who's probably ranked like thirty

547
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Speaker 6: fifth to thirty sixth among you know, capable quarterbacks. Man,

548
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Speaker 6: I think they got what they what they paid for

549
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Speaker 6: in that. I don't know if you saw me. I tweeted,

550
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Speaker 6: I just tweeted you. I didn't tweet any words or messages.

551
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Speaker 6: I just tweeted your handle as soon as the first

552
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Speaker 6: third and one came and they put Justin Jefferson in

553
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Speaker 6: the backfield. He did not decide to throw the ball out.

554
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Speaker 6: I said, Dan's gotta be going apple practice now, you know.

555
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 6: So there's coaching involved in this too. So there's there's

556
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Speaker 6: this is like a thou flet of of untasty flavor

557
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 6: that's leading to horrible to play that just need us

558
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Speaker 6: to be thrown out and start restarted from Scratchmen, there

559
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Speaker 6: are there's a bunch.

560
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I I there's no doubt and I I thought it

562
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Speaker 2: was so thorough yesterday as a total system failure. To

563
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Speaker 2: quote your one of the poll ads from back in

564
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Speaker 2: the day, that I didn't make that big of a

565
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Speaker 2: deal of the ground decisions because not because I didn't

566
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Speaker 2: think it was a legitimate that it was an illegitimate subject,

567
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Speaker 2: but it just felt like, well, when you're when you're

568
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Speaker 2: beaten that way, what was the final thirty eight to

569
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 2: ten and just dominated on all levels, It's hard for

570
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Speaker 2: me to get too worked up about any one thing

571
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Speaker 2: other than a belief that this is about much more

572
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Speaker 2: than the quarterback whoever you have there, whether it's Wentz,

573
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Speaker 2: whether it's McCarthy, whether it's Brosemer, you know, whether it's

574
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Speaker 2: Joe Montana and his prime that they got a lot

575
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Speaker 2: of other issues that are that are entering into this thing,

576
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Speaker 2: and they can't blame injuries for all of them, especially

577
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Speaker 2: along the defensive line of scrimmage.

578
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Speaker 6: Well here's the thing too. I like to hear Brian

579
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Speaker 6: Prolinx Floors's next press conference, and they haven't talked about

580
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Speaker 6: what what haywire was the defense because I was trying

581
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 6: to trow Why was the middle so open for the

582
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Speaker 6: passing game for Justin Herbert, you know, played by Chris

583
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Speaker 6: Helmsworth and thor How was Thorba able to just destroy

584
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 6: the middle of the secondary like he did yesterday time

585
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 6: and time again? He was he was hitt and guy.

586
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Speaker 6: So he made that one tight end gatsbeat that last name.

587
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Speaker 6: He may look like all pro you know, I was like,

588
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Speaker 6: why is it? Why is this available? What who's missing?

589
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: What who's that crashing down? Where's the safety go? Right?

590
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 6: It just feels like they're a step behind or just

591
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: getting out seams.

592
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. They got a lot of work to do,

593
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Speaker 2: and we obviously know now McCarthy's going to be the QB,

594
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Speaker 2: and he's going to walk in to a quite a

595
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Speaker 2: challenge the first week because the Detroit Lions aren't gonna

596
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: feel sorry for anybody, especially the Vikings. They got to

597
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: play them there. The Lions are clearly one of the

598
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Speaker 2: best teams in the league. Again, I think, and you know,

599
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Speaker 2: a big part of the story level is to your

600
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Speaker 2: point about b flow, is we're we're at a point

601
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Speaker 2: if you go back to last year and even this year,

602
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Speaker 2: the number of good quarterbacks who've just riddled them, you know,

603
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Speaker 2: and good quarterbacks are tougher to defend, right, but it's

604
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: just been total. I mean, you lost both games to

605
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Speaker 2: the Lines last year. Golf was surgical against them, both

606
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: games to the Rams. They've got a very good quarterback

607
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: as well. Look at the quarterbacks you've lost to this year,

608
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Speaker 2: a Rodge early, and the last two weeks you've lost

609
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: to Jalen Hurts and to the Chargers Guy Herbert, who's

610
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: you know, been inconsistent in the postseason but obviously is

611
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Speaker 2: very skilled. So sooner or later your defense has to

612
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Speaker 2: play at least more representatively against good quarterbacks than they have.

613
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Speaker 6: Damn that this defense has operated at such a high

614
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: level that you know, we can understand a letdown, but

615
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 6: this is a collapse. You know, this is a collapse.

616
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Speaker 6: This was the defense which was two years ago. Coot

617
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Speaker 6: was staying after the three nothing victory over the Raiders.

618
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Speaker 6: This is a championship defense. They are so far from

619
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Speaker 6: that now and maybe some of their personalicis decisions to

620
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 6: come back to have come to buy them in terms

621
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Speaker 6: of who they signed to play in this defensive line

622
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Speaker 6: and the.

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Speaker 2: Trade of Harrison Phillips, Yeah, that can't be forgotten. We

624
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Speaker 2: have talked about the Phillips deal too. We've not had

625
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: a lot of time today because it's been pretty Viking

626
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 2: centric to follow up with what we got into yesterday,

627
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: the breaking news regarding the federal investigation that named three

628
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, current or former NBA related individuals, whether you're

629
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Speaker 2: talking about coach in the case of Chauncey Phillips after

630
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: he played, and including here and of course players as well.

631
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Speaker 2: So how big a is do you believe this is

632
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: the the the whole story? Do you believe there's a

633
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: chance that this is going to get wider and bigger?

634
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: And how big a challenge do you think this commissioner

635
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Speaker 2: has in sort of managing this particular crisis.

636
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Speaker 6: Well, it depends on what you mean by bigger think

637
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 6: what it was? What was the headline today? Three players

638
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 6: from Eastern Michigan's basketball team refused to cooperate with investigation

639
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 6: into possible point shaving because they don't they have no

640
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 6: more eligibility to lose, so they don't see any point

641
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: in trying to help. You know what I'm saying. It's

642
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 6: popping up everywhere. I think it could get worse. I

643
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: think more names out of it. I just I mean,

644
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 6: all the people in the world could wrapped up in this.

645
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 6: Chauncy Bills would be the last person I would imagine.

646
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Speaker 6: He made a hundred million dollars, He made a hundred

647
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 6: million dollars during his playing career. He doesn't need this

648
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 6: unless he's been burned by business deals in he voke

649
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 6: or something. But I just thought it was just baffled

650
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 6: by this. And if the mafia to get in cohoots

651
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 6: with an athlete, that's the thing that people should be

652
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 6: afraid about that somehow these athletes are getting around these

653
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 6: type of individuals and where these temptations, all these offers

654
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 6: are coming. Yeah, So can you stop that anywhere? And

655
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 6: we're in a bad spot. We're in such a bad

656
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 6: spot because we the professional sports has closed up to

657
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 6: gambling institutions for advertising revenue, especially since COVID. Everybody's trying

658
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 6: to make all the moneys make up all the money lost.

659
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: And so you see signage all over the place. We

660
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 6: got a hockey arena called Grand Casino Arena. You know

661
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 6: it's not that's not going to any time soon here.

662
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 6: You know, the passing of the gambling Bill on twenty

663
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 6: eighteen that allowed states to have their own have wagering

664
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 6: like Vegas. That adds another layer because you've got these

665
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 6: stupid prop bets. Now give me Johnny Jus aangle of

666
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 6: the wolves. You could bet if he's going to have

667
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 6: more than eight minutes of playing time and score more

668
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 6: than three three points to pull down four rebounds. You know,

669
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 6: it gets that crazy where you may have like the

670
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 6: fourteenth man on a bench who's not making as much

671
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 6: as the stars. Oh the hell in the NBA, anybody

672
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: who's on the bench is making a couple million bucks,

673
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 6: would imagine, but they could actually you know, be influenced

674
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 6: and say hey man, I'm I'm I'm gonna believe. I'm

675
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 6: gonna look, I'm gonna act like I had a concussion today. See,

676
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 6: I don't wanna take under all my produ bets. Which

677
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: has happened? What has happened? So uh, I don't know

678
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 6: how the NBA can guard against this. I don't know

679
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 6: how much help and assistance they can provide. Does every

680
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 6: team need to have a gambling watchdog on their part

681
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: of the organization to make sure these players aren't falling

682
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 6: through these traps? This is scary and at the root

683
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 6: of all, he says, Now, can you sit at the

684
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 6: NBA game and watch it and wonder without wondering that someone's.

685
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: On the tape?

686
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: So all all fair? I think it's pretty obvious that

687
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: that as difficult and challenging as this would be, the

688
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: prop bet has to go. And when I say that,

689
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm aware that well, even if that's possible. And by

690
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: the way, the number of states have eliminated the prop

691
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: bet when it comes to college players, not pros, but

692
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: college players.

693
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: But I like that.

694
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 2: I think I'll be honest until you can. Oh, here's

695
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: the problem, if you if you lee, if you eliminate

696
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: it in the real sense, in terms of what the NBA, NFL,

697
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: all these major sports are willing to get in bed

698
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: with these these these these sports betting services also agree

699
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: to it. We all know what will happen. The prop

700
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: bet won't bet, won't go away, the prop bet will

701
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: go underground and will go to those illegal places. But

702
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: I would still maintain that if you're a league that

703
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 2: has made the decision that there's no turning back. Genie's

704
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: out of the bottle. We're we're closing up to these

705
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: these legal services, you at least have to try to

706
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: eliminate or work towards negotiating and elimination of the prop bet, because,

707
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: as you know, that's the game changer. You're still gonna

708
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: have the occasional players who tank a game for a team, right,

709
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: But that's harder to do and less likely than an

710
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: easy prop bet. It came up even in baseball this year, right,

711
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you do a prop bet on and who

712
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: was the picture was being investigated?

713
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 6: I forgot. I forgot that that was two pitchures were clean,

714
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: But what was the manual class? Yes, well on this

715
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 6: his first pitch is gonna be bothered in something like

716
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 6: that exactly, And he got pulled into that. So it's

717
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: happening in baseball too, which is a really dangerous sport

718
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 6: because if you can get to a pitcher who has

719
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 6: the ball right, all kinds of stuff could be manipulated.

720
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: There's no question. Yeah, it's it's it's never ending. So

721
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: I it's daunting. It's extremely daunting. But clearly the status

722
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: quo can't hold. There's gonna have to be big time

723
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: leadership and and creativity when it comes to trying to

724
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: ride hurd over it. And I'll be honest with you,

725
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 2: I don't have that much faith in the end the

726
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: current NBA commissioner, I would have been David Stern if

727
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: he was still running it. Adam Silver has tended to

728
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: not impress me when it comes to these sorts of crises.

729
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 6: I've been trying to figure out what type of commic

730
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: kind I write in the subject I don't know where

731
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 6: to start. Yeah, and I think if I started somewhere,

732
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: I end up in a different place too.

733
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: That's it. It is. It's very complicated. And look, a

734
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: couple of people are texting and we got into this yesterday.

735
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you can make it. The logical question is, hey, guys,

736
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars contracts fifty thousand here twenty five thousand.

737
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: There's going to be the difference. Why would you even bother?

738
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: Why would you risk so much? But I think you

739
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: know the answer to that question. It's the rush for So.

740
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: I heard Brian Scalabrini talk about this earlier today. He said, Man,

741
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you there's guys who will get more

742
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 2: excited about what they view as free twenty five thousand

743
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: dollars that they didn't think was coming than their contract.

744
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: It's psychological. It doesn't it's illogical, but there's a psychology

745
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: to it and a rush to it that does explain

746
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: why people might be willing to risk so much. Now,

747
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: you could say, would Billups risk that much when we're

748
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: talking about the the the poker table stuff, because that

749
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: doesn't even feel like the same kind of a rush. Well,

750
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: it depends. Maybe maybe he's got some people that he

751
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: got compromised by. Who knows where it ends in that regard.

752
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: But I don't think level the average rube cares about

753
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: these high level poker games. I think I know what

754
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: elevates the story is if they're if the if the

755
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: games are fraudulent, and the and Chauncey Billups and others.

756
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 2: The celebrities know that easy marks are being taken advantage of.

757
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: It's a rig game, and you got the Gambino family involved,

758
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: among others, then that's a problem, right, That's a significant problem, no.

759
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 6: Doubt, no doubt. But I just I think people in

760
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 6: general like action regards of social economic datus like to action.

761
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 6: I was I was at my local watering hole watching

762
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: the Vikers get trounced yesterday, and there's a guy and

763
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 6: they went to the second quarter. He's paying his table, Like, so,

764
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 6: why are you leaving it since the middle of the

765
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 6: second quarter he was like, I'm down three hundred dollars

766
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 6: a pull tab. Everybody differently, but I think people get

767
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: the fever they do.

768
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: One hundred percent trough Sunday column then, is what.

769
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Speaker 6: A Sunday column? Actually? The Loons are playing Monday. So

770
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Speaker 6: I did a Looms column person for a Sunday three

771
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Speaker 6: two pitch, and my Saint Thomas Pizza is running the

772
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Speaker 6: mark I have been busy this week. Doesn't do my

773
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Speaker 6: fourth column.

774
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Speaker 2: That's good, that's goods better to be busy. It's always

775
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: going to be busy. Have a wonderful weekend. Enjoy your

776
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777
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778
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Speaker 2: Teachers Gophers Iowa, Iowa City Tomorrow. That's a two thirty

794
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Speaker 2: start pregame show on the fan will begin at twelve

795
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 2: thirty before we get some talking points. I wanted to mention.

796
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: A nice bit is in I should say the the

797
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: Gopher Iowa football history, especially as it pertains to more

798
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Speaker 2: calamitous occasions. I believe you can look this up. I

799
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: think PJ goes into tomorrow afternoon's game one in seven

800
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: against Iowa. I believe that's the updated number. I think

801
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: we beat them in twenty twenty three? Was it twelve

802
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: to ten? So that the AI overlord say one in seven? Okay,

803
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: all right, here's the dan Minnesota Iowa Gopher history. Calamity

804
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: related goes all the way back to October twenty three,

805
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. Following a twenty one to sixteen victory

806
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: over the Gophers at the Metro Dome, Iowa coach Hayden

807
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: Fry dresses like a farmer in his postgame press conference

808
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: to throw shade at Minnesota and the media. Gopher coach

809
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: Joe Salem. Apparently it called the Hawkeyes a bunch of farmers,

810
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: quoted as saying, all you great Minnesota riders and radio

811
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: people were talking about as being clods. So I wore

812
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: my clod clothes. How about this occasion? I was there

813
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: for this one November sixteen, two thousand and two. Iowa

814
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 2: fans ripped down the goal posts after the Hawkeyes edged

815
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 2: the Gophers forty five to twenty one at the Dome.

816
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: Pretty sure I was there for that occasion. Wasn't that

817
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: the occasion where they literally were trying to get one

818
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: of the goalposts through the one of the revolving doors

819
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: at the Dome and were unable to do so. November

820
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: twenty two, two thousand and eight, final game at the

821
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: Metro Dome, Iowa fifty five, Gophers zero. Ugh, that's calamitous,

822
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: is it not? He reminds us does Dan Minnesota. That

823
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: was also the game the infamous Okay and when an

824
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: Iowa fan was busted for engaging in sexual activity in

825
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: the bathroom. November sixteen, twenty nineteen, key game of this

826
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: very successful Gopher season, the game that would have elevated

827
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 2: us to a really special season in twenty nineteen. As

828
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: the number eight ranked team in the country, the Gophers

829
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: are edged by Iowa twenty three to nineteen, first time

830
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: they've been ranked in the top ten since nineteen sixty two.

831
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: That was the game. You win that game and we

832
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: would still be talking probably about that season because it

833
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: was good. It was a very good season, but that

834
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 2: was the game where they just couldn't finish the damn

835
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 2: thing off as the eighth ranked team. November thirteen, twenty twenty,

836
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,479
Speaker 2: Down thirty five nothing to Iowa with nineteen seconds left

837
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: in the game. PJ. Flett calls a time out in

838
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: response at a timeout period. In response, Kirk Ference calls

839
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: three timeouts in a row. Here's the quote from the

840
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: Iowa coach. They called a timeout to look at what

841
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: we were doing, to reconsider. So we just wanted to

842
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: make sure we had a good look at what they

843
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: were doing. No sense taking the timeouts on the bus right.

844
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: You guys have reminded me of that a couple of

845
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: times over the last twenty two years. Figured we'd take

846
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Floyd with us and leave the timeouts here. I remember

847
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: that one well as well. The last spread I saw

848
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 2: remains I think absurd. In this game. I saw Iowa

849
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: by either eight and a half or nine. See what

850
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: the updated number is wherever you like to look. I

851
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: think that's preposterous, and I'm hardly a Gopher apologist. I

852
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: just don't you know. We talked about this. See some

853
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: of the points spreads. The Nebraska advantage was I think

854
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: eight or nine allegedly going into the last Friday Night

855
00:47:59,239 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 2: game a week ago.

856
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: The Hawkey's favored by nine and a half and a half.

857
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I really don't good. I guess

858
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: Bolten boarg material, but that seems that seems I just

859
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: don't trust either of these several of these Big ten

860
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: teams enough to where I those point spreads mean or

861
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: make much sense to me. How about another Vikings talking point?

862
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: How about Well, the theme of today's talking points started

863
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: with the pick six. That wasn't. The run defense that wasn't.

864
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Did we do the pass defense that wasn't? Maybe we

865
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: do that one right now?

866
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 5: Now you have them in third and long, you cannot

867
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: We've struggled with some of these third and long situations.

868
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 5: You cannot let them off the hook because if you

869
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: make a punt, you're still gonna have good field position.

870
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: It's third and thirteen. The Viking's third down defense second

871
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 5: best in the NFL, giving up first downs thirty percent

872
00:48:59,280 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: of the time.

873
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: To try argers on.

874
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: Third down or fourth pass, something has to give. It's

875
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 5: third and thirteen. Justin Herbert goes out of the shotgun

876
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 5: four man rush.

877
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Great drop.

878
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 5: Herbert throws over the middle, taught first down Keenan Allen

879
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 5: at the thirty two yard line. It'll be a connection

880
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 5: of eighteen ish yards and a first down from Herbert

881
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 5: to Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen has just blitzed and burned

882
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 5: and scorched the Minnesota Vikings all of his career. Justin

883
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 5: Herbert working out of the shotgun. He has Patterson in

884
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 5: motion to the right. Herbert back to pass. He'll throw

885
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 5: over the middle between the hashmarks, and it is caught

886
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 5: by gatst in the second a leaping Harrison Smith Tretton

887
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 5: knock it away in front of him, but it's a

888
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 5: connection of thirteen yards and another first down for these bolts.

889
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 5: Herbert goes under center that dolls the tailback. Three receiving options.

890
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 5: Right Herbert's looking to pass, throws over the middle of

891
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 5: the ponkey is uncovered. He caught it at about the

892
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 5: twenty yard line. Flag on the play Ladd mcconkee is

893
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 5: able to roll ahead of the seventeen unofficially a gain

894
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 5: of fifteen yards pending penalty, and we'll see what Kleefe

895
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: Blakeman has to say.

896
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: Third and bowl.

897
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: From the eight, Herbert goes back to pass grows to

898
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 5: the end zone and it's caught for a touchdown for

899
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: the LA Chargers, and it's Aronde Scatsden the second second

900
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 5: and ten Herbert with a back to his left out

901
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: of the shotgun, paid right side end zone, caught touchdown

902
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 5: Lad McConkie, who blue by Jeff Okuda like he was

903
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 5: tied to a Poe school And the LA Chargers have

904
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 5: taken a twenty to three lead on that twenty seven

905
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: yard touchdown hit. Herbert now has fifteen touchdown passes this year.

906
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 5: Ladd McConkey has three receiving touchdowns. And the Chargers with

907
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 5: the seventeen point lead, let's be mindful they get the

908
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 5: ball to begin the second half, correct, Paul. They just

909
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 5: ran the same played twice right and Akudah didn't lay

910
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 5: a finger on Lad mcconakee, didn't even even jam him

911
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 5: getting away, force him out wide or anything. McConkey just

912
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 5: ran like beat him like a drum, just ran right

913
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: around him. That was That's three plays in a row

914
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: after Okudah.

915
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was. Uh it was not pleasant for

916
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: uh mister Okudah, and uh not pleasant at all for

917
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: the for Vikings pass defense. More generally speaking, how about

918
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: the ground game, the Vikings ground game that wasn't.

919
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 5: Second and ten, Wentz comes out of the shotgun. He's

920
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 5: going to give it to showtime. Aaron Jones were right

921
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: up the middle and Derwin James along there'll be no

922
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: gain along with Jamari Caldwell. A third round rookie for

923
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 5: loring and stop him. So beat Here we are with

924
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 5: a third and long out of the gay. Carson Wentz

925
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: goes under center, trailing seven zero, gets first in ten

926
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 5: toss right to Jordan Mason. He's smacked shortly after he

927
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 5: gets the ball pumps in ow far the right across

928
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 5: the fifteen and had to do everything he could just

929
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 5: to get back to the line of scrimmage or close

930
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 5: to it. The Vikings have run five times, make it

931
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 5: six because it's a toss right to Jordan Mason. Tir

932
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 5: Tarp blew that thing up, so Mason had to head

933
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 5: back to the left and as the circumnavigated the formation,

934
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 5: he did everything he could to get back.

935
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: To the line of scrimmage and back No, he lost

936
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: two yards. If you like to see more detail regarding

937
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: the run offense the ground game that wasn't I hardly

938
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: recommend item number two in the wise old al Mark

939
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: Craig's Top five. I guess you could say was he

940
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 2: called five extra points headlined beatdowns happen when you ignore

941
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: the run. This is one of those rare boring mismatch

942
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: NFL games when the embarrassing wild stats keep coming in waves.

943
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: My favorite, he writes, came early in the third quarter,

944
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 2: when Harbas seemed to dedicate the second half to embarrassing

945
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: a Vikings team that didn't hire him when it chose

946
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. In twenty twenty two, Chargers open with three

947
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: straight imposure Will runs for twenty three yards up the gut.

948
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 2: When this stat appeared, Chargers have twenty first downs. The

949
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: Vikings have twenty four plays. At that point, the Vikings

950
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: had run the ball five times for ten and the

951
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: backup quarterback who was playing injured behind an offensive line

952
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: missing both of its starting tackles. Chargers leading rusher had

953
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: twenty three carries for one hundred and seventeen yards. Vikings

954
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: leading rusher had two carries for sixteen. Defense is terrible, yes,

955
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: but the Vikings play the opposite of complimentary football from

956
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: the get go, so the defense was not entirely responsible

957
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: for the Chargers holding the ball over thirty nine minutes

958
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: tour words have rarely been spoken or written. Let's come

959
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: back and wrap up a very controversial edition of the

960
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: program next year in.

961
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: The fan.

962
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: It's the Bumper to Bumper Show.

963
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 3: Rap and it's brought to you by American Pressure. I

964
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 3: want to thank our outstanding array of guests today. That

965
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 3: includes Kevin O'Connell. Well, I mean, he wasn't technically a guest,

966
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: but we played in its entirety his session with the

967
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 3: media Jackals today on the day after that was at

968
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 3: the start of the program. Also had Ben Gestling at

969
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 3: four thirty and Lavelle at five thirty. I think it

970
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: will be a two hour edition of Sermons on Sunday.

971
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: Are you back for It will be outstanding. That's nine

972
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: until eleven. Obviously, there'll be plenty of reaction to the

973
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: Gopher game. Have more of a chance maybe to dig

974
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: into the latest NBA scandal and get to more pro

975
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: football stuff as well.

976
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: Tonight NBA basketball, the Wolves, in particular National TV game

977
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: against the Lakers on the road. I Mick Johnny Athletic

978
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: is tracking them, but that'll be on the fan later

979
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: tonight as well as they try to improve the start

980
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: of the season to two and Oero Texter writes the

981
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: most interesting angle to me on the betting scandals of

982
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: the sportsbook caught the irregular bet the very next day,

983
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: and the NBA somehow investigated this and saw nothing there.

984
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: That is an interesting element to it. The quote from

985
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: Windhorst out of ESPN dot com, Brian Windhorst getting a

986
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: lot of attention from yesterday direct quote from him. I

987
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: just want to point something out. The sportsbook caught the

988
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: irregular betting on Terry Rozier the day had happened, and

989
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 2: guess what the NBA The Rosier didn't play the rest

990
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: of the season, and he had faked the injury, so

991
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: it wasn't because of the injury the NBA pulled him.

992
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: That's getting a lot of attention because it does call

993
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: into question the NBA response whether the league has been

994
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: way too laissez faire from a leadership standpoint. Is there

995
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: a piece of this that's missing in that the NBA

996
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: allegedly investigated him and did not follow through with any

997
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: kind of punishment. Do the Feds know something that the

998
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: league doesn't. The details in the indictment seemed to be

999
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: very damning. There'd be more of the story, I don't know,

1000
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: but it's the league response that I think is going

1001
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: to becoming become a bigger and bigger part of this

1002
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 2: story moving forward, like what did they know, when did

1003
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: they know it, and why did they choose to take

1004
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: the approach they did, which you can argue does come

1005
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 2: off as we're just trying to keep hush this up

1006
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: and keep this thing quiet because now it involves a

1007
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 2: player who is not a superstar, but a good enough

1008
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: player that it could cause great difficulty if it becomes

1009
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 2: we make a bigger issue of it and it becomes

1010
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: public as well. Also want to thank Guards another great

1011
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: job on the Vikings talking points segment. I think we

1012
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: covered it ultimately pretty much all of them. And when

1013
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: it's a total system failure, it should be the pick six,

1014
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: that wasn't the ground game, that wasn't the run defense,

1015
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: that wasn't the pass defense, that certainly wasn't the highly

1016
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 2: tutored up and comer defensive player who isn't Dallas Turner.

1017
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: We did not include that talking point, come to think

1018
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 2: of it, and by the way, we can have time

1019
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: we certainly have time to include it on Sunday, you

1020
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: could say, in the grand scheme of things, Dallas Turner

1021
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: isn't the reason that the Vikings lost. But it was

1022
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: such a stupid play. It was such an obvious play.

1023
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm actually shocked that he didn't get thrown out of

1024
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 2: the game because I was told that it rose to

1025
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: the level where it's the discretion of the rep of

1026
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: the officials, but that they could have thrown him out

1027
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: of the game. And then there was the past protection

1028
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: that wasn't as well. So what do we think going forward?

1029
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: We think that it is now inevitable. The mc bobo's

1030
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: wanted the JJ McCarthy era to start. They've been chomping

1031
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: at the bit. They're anxious, they're ready. You're going to

1032
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 2: get your wish. There's no longer any question about it.

1033
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: Team is struggling too much to even consider staying with

1034
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. He may not be healthy enough to play

1035
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: again the rest of the season. For all we know,

1036
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: you got your wish. It's gonna be McCarthy starting against

1037
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions than I've ever two and from that

1038
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: point forward, unless he struggles and the head coach opens

1039
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: the door to your guy Brozmer, and then at that

1040
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: point all bets will be off, will they not? All

1041
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: they'll be off at that point. You meanwhile, or word,

1042
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 2: your Packers team is gonna lose. Maybe we'll talk about

1043
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: that Sunday too. Yeah, the a ride revenge factor that

1044
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: worries you. It's more of a better team than the Steelers.

1045
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 3: Yes, but the defense hasn't been able to get off

1046
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: the field against Jacoby Brissett and flat twice. So yeah,

1047
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm not but that defense the Steelers not as good.

1048
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 3: They're not very No, they can move the ball.

1049
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: You should. It could be a high scoring affair, I think.

1050
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: So that's it. Thanks for the help today, much appreciated.

1051
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 2: No enough said tonight. We've been preempted by like twenty

1052
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: two games, so no guardsying me on TV with Lori Fisher.

1053
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: I know you're devastated, but we are scheduled as far

1054
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: as I know, to return to action next week on

1055
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: Fox nine. Thanks for watching, thanks indeed for listening. Have

1056
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: a wonderful weekend, and we hope you'll join us Sunday

1057
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: morning at nine.

1058
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 6: Did you see the game?

1059
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1060
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 6: K Fair? Why offs