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Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, guys.

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Speaker 4: Mitchyear from South Saint Paul. So, I mean, things are

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Speaker 4: looking pretty optimistic with the injuries and everybody coming back

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Speaker 4: after the bye. But should we be concerned about Andrew

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Speaker 4: Van Ginkel? Is this another Daniil Hunter situation? I mean,

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Speaker 4: this Nick injury is really starting to creep up and

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Speaker 4: be pretty concerning. You know, he's pretty good on that defense,

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Speaker 4: and it'd be nice to have him, you know, the

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Speaker 4: rest of the season. So all right, I'll hang up

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Speaker 4: a listen. What do you guys think?

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Speaker 6: Scull Uh, Mitch, that's fantastic that that was a fantastic question,

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Speaker 6: because I'm not I don't prefer to be concerned and

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Speaker 6: be concerned. So I'm not ten to ten on this,

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Speaker 6: all right, but that man is so important to the

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Speaker 6: has been the identity of the team. I mean, that's

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Speaker 6: with all due respect. You know, you've got thirteen offensive

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Speaker 6: a fair amount of it. You know, the the Addison

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Speaker 6: that there is explosiveness that is there to be had

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Speaker 6: what gets me with Van Ginkel is the defense has

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Speaker 6: played a large, large part in keeping this team's head

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Speaker 6: above water. And that's all the while from not getting

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Speaker 6: splash plays from Javon Harten, all right, one of the

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Speaker 6: in the first game. But then you know, you watch

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Speaker 6: Very difficult to beat double teams, but he's done it before.

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Speaker 6: So the point being here is the Minnesota Vikings run

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Speaker 6: defense has been below average. It's been suspect, and it

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Speaker 6: was suspect ever since the Cincinnati game. They're going to

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Speaker 6: Brown's not Chase Brown, not James Brooks. Chase Brown plows

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Speaker 6: through everything Minneapolis, Minnie Jaja, Minnetauka, and man Cato and

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Speaker 6: he got the first down and I was like, damn man,

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Speaker 6: With that, but the run defense has been suspect well.

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Speaker 6: Van Ginkle helps with that immensely, and he's noteworthy for

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Speaker 6: the most important players on this team. To Mitch's question, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean I'm not ten to ten concerned. I'm done

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Speaker 6: I thought he was playing, and I shared that. Well,

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Speaker 6: my level of concern not having Andrew van Ginkle is

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Speaker 6: I hope Van Ginkle returns in the Eagles game. But

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Speaker 2: Hey Pa, Max?

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Speaker 7: From Egan, I'm going to touch Grase on both the

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Speaker 7: we have to win in the playoffs this year. If

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Speaker 8: But yeah, we need to win the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: See you by So if thank you very much for

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Speaker 6: the multifaceted talk back, Max.

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Speaker 2: That was cool.

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Speaker 6: So if not now, when with a McCarthy is healthy

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Speaker 6: Minnesota Vikings has won a lot of regular season games here.

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Speaker 2: He has the super Bowl ring and he's the reigning

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Speaker 6: You you amass those accolades and you get the benefit

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Speaker 6: It's leading up to it being JJ McCarthy. I have

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Speaker 6: no problem with that. This is a you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: So I'm cool whichever way they go with it. I

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Speaker 6: I'll be glad when this talker's over and they play

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Speaker 6: hold on the wild with what he said. Yes, I

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Speaker 6: don't know how closely you were listening, but were you

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Speaker 9: I was?

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Speaker 2: Well, is it?

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Speaker 1: I think if you pulled all Wild fans from season

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Speaker 2: Well stated some more plays.

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Speaker 1: I'll hit you for two for one because they're both

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Speaker 1: on the same talkers that have just said you were

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to put one player's health above the

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Speaker 3: be our franchise quarterback for the next ten twelve years.

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Speaker 3: Then I don't think he plays again until this offensive

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Speaker 3: same line right for the first time. I love Wentz,

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Speaker 3: great player, but don't want to see him get hurt.

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Speaker 3: But if JJ is our guy, we need to protect them.

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Speaker 2: On the other side. Up is Alex a nice job

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Speaker 5: I'm out here mowing lines. I'm always tuning in to

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Speaker 5: nine to noon, big fan man. I don't understand why

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Speaker 5: I mean, do we want to go with rental one

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Speaker 6: But I also know at age twenty two it's a

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna disrespect somebody that way, because the the

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Speaker 2: Here. The veteran is a little wounded, So we're going to.

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Speaker 6: Slide McCarthy in and and kind of go touching, you know,

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Speaker 6: touch and go a little bit with a new quarterback

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Speaker 6: against a super Bowl winning team, and he's twenty two

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Speaker 6: I'm not as wrapped up in this as other people are.

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Speaker 6: Maybe I should be. Maybe I'll get there, but the

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Speaker 10: Hey Pa Chad from Chaska.

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Speaker 9: Great to hear your.

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Speaker 10: Voice spreading positivity and especially faith this morning across the

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Speaker 10: airwaves and a time when our country likely needs it

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Speaker 10: the most. Great to hear as far as the wild

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Speaker 10: in the upcoming season, we know new Superstar contract, new

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Speaker 10: naming rights to the arena. Let's get back to the playoffs,

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Speaker 10: make a little run, get the fans excited again, and

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Speaker 10: keep that place sold out every night.

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Speaker 6: Thanks yeah, thank you, brother, and thanks for the nice words.

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Speaker 6: It's an honor to that God shows. I get a

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 2: I like the team. They hook tomorrow night. Saint Louis.

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Speaker 6: Now this is back in the Jaden Schwartz days, you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. They've got Jimmy Snuggerood now you know,

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 1: But again it's we just don't know when what we

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Speaker 6: Like I mean, I thought your squad would have zero

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Speaker 2: Three or two? They have two?

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Speaker 6: Yea, it turns out they have two and they were

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Speaker 6: These Minnesota Vikings strike fear in your heart as a

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Speaker 2: What is that a shocking statement? Did I just make

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Speaker 2: Pretty good question, there isn't it. It's an unfortunate statement. Welcome.

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Speaker 6: You're not going to hit me with some lame, tired

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Speaker 2: Right there? I could.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the break glass in case of emergency that

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Speaker 6: Okay, now, before we get into this, yes, we You

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Speaker 2: Confirmed? Okay? Good?

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Speaker 6: Got a little surrogate to it, right, Yeah, okay good.

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Speaker 6: Don't be afraid to let me have it. Don't be

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Speaker 6: I'm a Packers fan, I got. I got two things

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Speaker 6: I'll let you finish your Aaron Jones won the Dallas

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Speaker 6: Here's the problem that that I would have with your

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Speaker 6: He did last year with the Vikings. He did everything

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Speaker 6: Yeah with the Now, the cap goes up every year,

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Speaker 6: And this is unfair for me to ask this about

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Speaker 1: to be the you know, the lights out on every

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Speaker 1: single play, Like the interception against the Browns, it was

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Speaker 1: a read that he saw a couple other times where

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Speaker 1: it was open. He made a throw with anticipation. Guy

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Speaker 1: made a good plane jumped in so crazy that would

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Speaker 1: be my I think the sample size of when it

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Speaker 1: matters I just haven't.

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Speaker 2: Seen enough of Do you do you love your quarterback?

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Speaker 1: I love I think I may be the biggest Jordan

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Speaker 1: love defender besides his mom got it?

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Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't.

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Speaker 6: But see the thing is, you shouldn't have to defend it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: see what I believe it though, Thank you. That's what

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Speaker 6: I was looking for. So you hit me as hard

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Speaker 6: as you want about anything you want, or we could

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Speaker 6: just sit here and converse it.

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Speaker 2: We could. It's me and Bee and that's your squad,

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Speaker 2: what about mine? And I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Afraid to rip. I mean I ripped the wild all

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Speaker 1: the time. I love the wild to death.

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Speaker 6: You're such a kind kid, You're such a kind man

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Speaker 6: that I think you're afraid that you're gonna like frustrate

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Speaker 6: me or upset me or hurt my feelings. Would a

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Speaker 6: sports related topic, all of that is impossible with me.

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Speaker 1: Impossible. Well then we'll go here. My stance on the

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Speaker 1: Wentz v jj bitt for next week. I've thought about it,

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Speaker 1: and I've kind of gone back and forth. But I

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Speaker 1: think the whole crux of the argument is what is

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Speaker 1: the ceiling with Wentz? Because I think the only reason

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Speaker 1: you should not be playing JJ McCarthy against the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Is if you think you can get to the big

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Speaker 1: game with Carson Wentz starting the rest of the year,

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Speaker 1: and you don't think that JJ is ready.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: Personally, I don't think Carson Wentz at this stage. I

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Speaker 1: real hot take here, not sure he's the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: winning quarterback at this point in time in his career,

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Speaker 1: even with the weapons the Vikings have. So that being said,

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Speaker 1: if you'll concede that that maybe he's not a big

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Speaker 1: game winning quarterback, you have to go with j And

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Speaker 1: even if it is, he's not ready and you're going

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Speaker 1: to go through these growing pains all year. You'd rather

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Speaker 1: have that than go for a ten and seven season

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Speaker 1: and maybe a wild card berth where you get spanked

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Speaker 1: by the Rams.

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Speaker 6: Well, I can't go with that with Wentz because he's

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Speaker 6: never played in big games. So therefore I would be

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Speaker 6: foolish to say he can't do something he's never attempted

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Speaker 6: to do.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 6: In other words, when I talk about Jordan Love, it's

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Speaker 6: the sample size is Dray Greenlaw and that's it. The

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Speaker 6: Browns part of the equation, don't That doesn't factor into it.

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Speaker 6: Other bone headed plays like people make bone headed plays.

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Speaker 6: Those don't factor into it. For me, it was what

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Speaker 6: Matt Lafleur laid out that individual game, and there weren't

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Speaker 6: many ways to win that game, and what he did

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Speaker 6: at the end, which was completely empathetical to the plan.

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Speaker 6: So but that's I'm not gonna ain't nobody pounding their

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Speaker 6: fist on that.

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Speaker 2: It's one game for somebody who is super talented. I can't.

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Speaker 6: I can't say Carson Wentz is incapable of winning big

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Speaker 6: games when with a bad shoulder grand you know, against Cleveland,

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Speaker 6: which which.

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Speaker 2: The Cleveland defense.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I said, I wasn't on the radio a

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Speaker 6: ton last week, but I told everybody would listen to

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Speaker 6: me last week, you have to throw to beat this

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Speaker 6: team when you have three backup offensive linemen, with all

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Speaker 6: due respect, ends up being four consistently over the balance

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Speaker 6: of the game. Moving those guys with four backups Malik Malik,

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Speaker 6: MALIEK Collins and Mason Graham's tough to move. Garrett is Garrett,

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Speaker 6: as you know, being a Packers fan, They're tough to move.

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Speaker 6: So and plus O'Connell is a throw first.

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Speaker 2: Kind of mindset.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, Well, you know, against that well respected defense, would

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Speaker 6: you say the Browns defense of what you've seen is

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Speaker 6: is spectworthy very much.

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Speaker 2: So okay, Unfortunately for me.

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Speaker 6: Behind for replacement offensive lineman without Aaron Jones Joe Hubert,

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Speaker 6: though he went nine of nine and won the game.

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Speaker 6: So that's my most recent So I can't say Carson

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Speaker 6: can't do it. But I also stick by the fact

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Speaker 6: that if they want to wait with JJ McCarthy, I

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Speaker 6: don't have a problem with that either. Because my daughter's

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Speaker 6: twenty two years of age. I remember what it was

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Speaker 6: like when I was twenty two. You probably remember when

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Speaker 6: you were twenty two.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 6: This stuff's coming at you fast, man, And if they

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Speaker 6: need to stop and start, it's like there doesn't have

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Speaker 6: to be a mandate on how to play and or

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Speaker 6: raise twenty two year old quarterbacks. So if they go

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Speaker 6: with McCarthy, then that means they feel because they you know,

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Speaker 6: they want to win every game and they want to

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Speaker 6: win a Super Bowl desperately. But you don't find success

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Speaker 6: the way Kevin has by looking at every game or

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Speaker 6: every season, like you have to be reminded, well, you

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Speaker 6: do know there's a game next week, Well, you do

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Speaker 6: know the NFL is going to have a season next year,

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Speaker 6: so there's no pressure to force anything either. Yeah, like

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Speaker 6: the owner for the Cleveland Browns, And I don't know

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Speaker 6: if this is public or not, but whatever, it's my

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Speaker 6: belief that Jimmy Haslam kind of has a low key

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Speaker 6: mandate with that bit that I want to see these

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Speaker 6: kids before the year's over. Gabriel and or Shador. Now,

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Speaker 6: be careful what you wish for when you want to

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Speaker 6: see Shador all right now. Now, Shador at times may

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Speaker 6: need to be reminded that he didn't fall in the

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Speaker 6: draft to where he did because his last name is

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Speaker 6: Sanders and people don't want to deal with his dad.

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Speaker 6: He fell where he did, and quite honestly, was lucky

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Speaker 6: he got drafted. The Browns did Shudorr Sanders a favor,

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Speaker 6: mark my words on that, because I don't think he

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Speaker 6: was going to get drafted. Maybe stept. Maybe he took

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Speaker 6: ninety four sacks in two years of Colorado ninety four sacks,

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Speaker 6: prop that's why you got drafted where he got drafted.

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Speaker 6: So Jimmy, be careful what you wish for if you

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Speaker 6: really want to see twelve with Gabriel, you know it's yeah,

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Speaker 6: he's Dylan Gabriel Man. I mean, we'll we'll see the

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Speaker 6: diminutive quarterback play himself out as the season moves on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how good he is. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how bad he is.

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Speaker 6: But I think I think your approach is very fair.

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Speaker 6: But the just I'm not one who's going to be

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Speaker 6: like I want to see McCarthy because I know we're

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Speaker 6: going to be nine to eight with wentz Okay. Well,

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Speaker 6: if I had told you four fifths of the offensive

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Speaker 6: line would be down at Tottenham Hotspur and you were

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Speaker 6: going to be losing, and your quarterback has a bad

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Speaker 6: shoulder and you need him to go nine to nine

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Speaker 6: to win it to a guy who was suspended that day,

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Speaker 6: would you take that bet? Fools will lie, but they wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: All right, so it's my turn. We do need one

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Speaker 6: more break as well. I know is Michael Parsons absolutely

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Speaker 6: worth every penny and picks delivered?

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Speaker 1: I still think so we don't know what the We

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Speaker 1: haven't heard about the back until the losses started coming again,

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Speaker 1: and then the all all of a sudden, the back

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Speaker 1: and there was one moment we went out of the game. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the fan has learned they signed him for a four

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Speaker 1: year deal.

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Speaker 2: And I didn't watch the Dallas game. It was one

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Speaker 2: twenty in the morning London.

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Speaker 1: Yet fair enough. You know I wouldn't either if I

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Speaker 1: was over there, Yeah you would. Well, so it was

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Speaker 1: creed bad would But the most pubs stay opened a

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Speaker 1: four man.

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Speaker 2: That they do. Man, you can get anything you want,

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Speaker 2: you know. It was just the defense just did not

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Speaker 2: have It was awful.

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Speaker 1: It was as if they came in there, it's like

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Speaker 1: we're just gonna and Dallas had a really good game plan.

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Speaker 1: Dak was absolutely lights out and they had a really

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Speaker 1: good game plan of getting the ball out fast, which

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Speaker 1: is something you saw Wentz do against the Browns, something

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Speaker 1: that you should have saw more of Green Bay when

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Speaker 1: they played the Browns.

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Speaker 2: So I still think he is.

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Speaker 1: But the problem if he's not this all world getting

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Speaker 1: two sacks three sacks every game, that doesn't mean it

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Speaker 1: was a bad deal because it's the long term. They've

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Speaker 1: opened a window that they think they can win a

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Speaker 1: big game yep, within the next three years. So get

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Speaker 1: back to me when the cap starts really ramping up

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Speaker 1: for him on the back side of this deal, Well,

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Speaker 1: they don't have any rings to show for it, then

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Speaker 1: I'll say it was a bad deal.

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Speaker 2: Well stated final segment.

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Speaker 6: Next alrighty, don't forget to listen to the Minnesota Wild

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Speaker 6: tomorrow debuting against Saint Louis. Kevin Fallen is guiding nine

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