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Speaker 3: We are Cincinnati Sports Station and excited to have you

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Speaker 2: We're going to hit on everything today.

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Speaker 3: We've got a little bit of a college basketball primer

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Speaker 3: that we'll get to in our number three. Wes Miller

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Speaker 3: spoke to members of the media just a few moments ago.

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Speaker 3: Will air some of that. Richard Skinner of Local twelve

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Speaker 3: Skinny himself, will join us at two o'clock. We have

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Speaker 3: our weekly Zach Taylor press conference that we will get to.

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Speaker 3: That happens at one o'clock. Your talkbacks and in between

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Speaker 3: all of that phone calls five to one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, we will get to plenty on the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Bengals and what's next. There is a news from the

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Speaker 3: Bengals today Joe Flacco is dealing Austin with an injury.

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Speaker 3: What do we make about Joe Flacco? We know he

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Speaker 3: left the game before the final drive of the game.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's an AC joint injury in the shoulder.

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Speaker 3: It's not ideal. It is yet to be decided on

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco and whether he'll be able to play or

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Speaker 3: not play this coming weekend. But obviously something to monitor

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Speaker 3: for this Bengals team, who at least offensively has looked

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Speaker 3: much different with Joe Flacco at quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Zach Taylor on Monday said Flacco was day to day,

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Speaker 4: did not share specifics. Ian Rapaport says today that it

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Speaker 4: is an AC joint sprain in that throwing shoulder. Rapaport

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Speaker 4: said his status is up in the air for Sunday.

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Speaker 4: We'll hear from Zack at one o'clock today, maybe a

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Speaker 4: little bit more details about that. I would imagine he

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Speaker 4: won't share much, but nothing official from the Bengals about this.

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Speaker 4: We won't get anything until this afternoon when the practice

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Speaker 4: report comes back. But you know, one of the things

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Speaker 4: I want to get into today about this game specifically,

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Speaker 4: is you don't need to rely on the arm of

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Speaker 4: Joe Flacco to win the game against the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: And I wonder if how bad the defense has been

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Speaker 4: that affects the way that Zach Taylor calls the game

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Speaker 4: or should it. Do we think if Joel doesn't ring,

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Speaker 4: how good the run game has been?

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Speaker 3: Do we think if Flaco does not play that they'll

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Speaker 3: still be able to have the same success with.

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Speaker 2: Jake Brown at quarterback in the past game.

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Speaker 4: No, in the run game, I mean in the run game,

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Speaker 4: I feel like it would be hard to say yes

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Speaker 4: because they don't respect him.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: That just makes it a little bit more roysome.

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Speaker 4: Correct, which would mean, hey, Joe, can you right just

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Speaker 4: hand the ball off for us, just at least look

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Speaker 4: like you're capable throw the.

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Speaker 3: Ball underhand, do something. Forty one year old Mercedes Lewis

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Speaker 3: is back in the NFL with the Denver Broncos. Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 3: coming back from a devastating injury from last year, has

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Speaker 3: signed a contract extension with the Detroit Lions. Lions have

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Speaker 3: done this multiple times in the past couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Austin they draft well and then they highlight who that

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Speaker 3: player is going to be and they want them to

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Speaker 3: stick around and they get it done before the contract expires.

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Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson four years, one hundred and eighty million dollars now.

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Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson came back from a major injury. Nick Hagland

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Speaker 3: of FC Cincinnati has done the same. Nick Hagland, Austin,

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Speaker 3: just about an hour ago, has been named the MLS

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Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year. Nick Hegland, Cincinnati native. FC

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati player now comeback Player of.

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Speaker 4: The Year, has not just came back in played, He's

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Speaker 4: played well for Cincinnati, started in that game against Columbus

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Speaker 4: as Nick Hagland, a lot of tough injuries, a lot

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Speaker 4: of you know, the mental toll that you have to

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Speaker 4: to come back despite all that, to be productive, to

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Speaker 4: part in that back line for FC Cincinnati. Very cool

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Speaker 4: to see. Congratulations to one of Cincinnati's own.

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Speaker 3: The opponent of the Cincinnati Bengals this this week has

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Speaker 4: CJGJ First Team All Mouth. Yep, nobody likes to talk

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Speaker 4: trash more than Chauncey Gardner Johnson his.

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Speaker 3: Fourth team since the end of last year's football season. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: absolutely insane. Other moves have been made in the NFL

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Speaker 3: as well. The Patriots were busy yesterday Austin. They sent

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Speaker 3: Keon White, a defensive end, to the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 3: nine Ers. In exchange they got a sixth round pick

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Speaker 3: has been traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was interesting. The Steelers worked out several players yesterday,

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Speaker 4: and so This was talked about during the offseason and

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh trying to shore up that back end, especially with

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Speaker 3: Last night, World Series Game four, show Hail Tani on

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Speaker 3: the mound outdueled by Shane Bieber of the Toronto Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: What year are we in?

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Speaker 3: Otani did go six innings, allowed four earned runs, struck

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Speaker 3: seventh inning for the Toronto Blue Blue Jays, as they

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Speaker 3: the bat of who else Austin Vladimir Guerrero Junior, who

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Speaker 3: We have spent a lot of time, and rightfully so,

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Speaker 3: talking about Show hey Otani and what he's done in

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Speaker 3: the postseason. How about this Vladimir Guerrero Junior in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: he's betting four to thirty one twelve RBIs, twelve runs,

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Speaker 3: scored six home runs in just thirteen gamesmes. He's been incredible,

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Speaker 3: and I think overshadowed a little bit because of what

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Speaker 3: Otani has been able to do. But Vlatt Guarrero Junior

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Speaker 3: and saying do you pitch to this guy? Do you

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Speaker 3: risk pitching to Vladimir Guerrero Junior? No rest for the

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Speaker 3: weary for either of these teams. They're back in action

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Speaker 3: for Game five of the World Series tonight, a matchup

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Speaker 3: pitching matchup of the two pitchers that took the mound

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Speaker 3: for Game one, but Blue Jays Dodgers Game five. This

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Speaker 3: is the final game at Dodger Stadium and then the

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Speaker 3: final two. We'll be back in Toronto if necessary, But

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Speaker 3: the Blue Jays do at least guarantee themselves they will

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Speaker 3: get back to Toronto for another World Series game, whether

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Speaker 3: that's to clinch in Game six, or whether that's Game

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Speaker 3: six to force a Game seven. We find out tonight.

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Speaker 3: Did you catch it all, Austin what Michael Jordan had

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Speaker 3: to say last night?

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Speaker 2: I did? How would you sum up Michael Jordan's thoughts

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Speaker 2: on load management. He thinks it's bs I would say

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Speaker 2: he hates him.

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Speaker 3: Load management is not something that the Goat is a

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Speaker 3: fan of, he said, In fact, it should never happen

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Speaker 3: in the NFL as well, but in the NBA.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the main point Mike made was, you know, people

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Speaker 4: pay and spend money to come and see you play basketball,

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Speaker 4: and you want to put on a show. You want

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Speaker 4: to keep a rhythm with your team, you want to

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Speaker 4: keep your game sharp, and he admitted he's probably not

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Speaker 4: the best example of what are you doing with the

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Speaker 4: rest of your time that you're not playing basketball every day?

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Speaker 4: But that's another important point. I have a hard time

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Speaker 4: personally understanding load management with the advances in science that

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Speaker 4: the different technology, and certainly the technology at the level

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Speaker 4: understanding why it's such an issue across the NBA. And

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Speaker 4: you know, there have been rumors that load management is

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Speaker 4: tied to this whole gambling thing. I hope that's not

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Speaker 4: Michael Jordan the way he said it.

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Speaker 3: He said, there obviously there are people that work hard

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Speaker 3: that also goes true on road games. He wanted to

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Speaker 3: it was an opportunity for him to continue to prove

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Speaker 3: himself that no matter who you're in front of, you

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Speaker 3: and you you take advantage of that every single opportunity

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Speaker 3: that you have. He's missed game, or he's played on

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Speaker 3: But I could not have agreed any more wholeheartedly with

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Speaker 3: with with Mike Trico, which I thoroughly do enjoy those conversations. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: few games in. I believe the thunder have played five

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Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs, with a healthy Victor Wembin Yama, are also

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Speaker 3: seventy six ers in the Chicago Bulls as the two

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Speaker 3: undefeated entities in the East.

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Speaker 2: Bulls go tonight, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a big game with a bunch of

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Speaker 4: former Bulls coming out for the Sacramento Kings, including Zach

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, so few former Bulls coming into Chicago.

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Speaker 4: What a matchup opportunity live before the Bulls tonight, opportunity knocks.

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Speaker 2: Do you have Halloween play and ask you this? You

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Speaker 2: have Halloween plans for the end of the week?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: Will you pass out candy? No?

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Speaker 4: Wow, I live in an apartment building, man, and you

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Speaker 4: sit outside the apartment. No, outside the building? Hell no,

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Speaker 4: not with this mustache. That's called the police.

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Speaker 2: Fair.

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Speaker 2: It's a big I've never been a big Halloween guy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that was gonna be my follow up. Yeah, like you

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Speaker 2: don't like candy?

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Speaker 4: I dressed up as Michael vick one here that aged

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Speaker 4: well age like milk. Yeah, no, I I just it's

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Speaker 4: never been like a huge deal. I like it, like

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Speaker 4: when I go over to my friend's house, or whatever

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Speaker 4: when they have like they have an actual home that

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Speaker 4: candy and do that whole thing. Like, I think that's fun.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy that part of it. I've never been huge

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Speaker 3: Welcome back football in the NATI. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. I have a question often, Okay. Mike Pennell

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Speaker 2: Yes. Did you hear what Chris Jones said about Mike Pennell.

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Speaker 4: Said that he's a great leader. Yes, we need him

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Speaker 3: This team needs leaders. You know, We've cited that for

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Speaker 4: He was here because they had nobody else. But he's

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Speaker 3: that enough. It just for me, it feels like it

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Speaker 3: should be an easy Not no game plan is easy,

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Speaker 3: but it feels like the idea of the game plan

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Speaker 3: should be, here's a team that's deficient in stopping the run,

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Speaker 3: here's a team that gives up points. We don't want

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Speaker 3: our defense playing on the field much. Run the ball

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Speaker 3: and limit possessions. I mean, it is the exact same conversation, Austin,

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Speaker 3: that we're having about how Utah would, in all likelihood

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Speaker 3: attack Cincinnati this weekend. Run the ball against a rush

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Speaker 3: defense with the Bearcats that gives up yards, run the

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Speaker 3: ball well, and limit possessions for sores being the Bearcat offense.

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Speaker 3: It's the exact framework and the exact conversation that's being

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Speaker 3: had amongst the Cincinnati Bearcuts. And you tell each game

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Speaker 3: that that's just what it is. And now the only

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Speaker 3: concern to that, Austin, if you're Zach Taylor, do you

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Speaker 3: have the answer if it's not Joe Flacco and the

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Speaker 3: Bears come out and say, Okay, we're gonna throw seven

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Speaker 3: or eight in the box at times until you show

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Speaker 3: that you can throw it. Then do you trust this

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Speaker 3: offense enough? No, because with Flacco, I do with Flacco,

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Speaker 3: they do enough in the passing game that that the

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Speaker 3: running game has been extremely effective over the last couple

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Speaker 3: But if I'm an opposing defense and I see Jake Browning,

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Speaker 3: the last thing I'm gonna do is rush for I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna load the box and make you throw it. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's why the health of obviously Joe Flacco

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Speaker 3: is extremely pivotal in this one, because we saw what

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Speaker 3: this offense was when Jake Browning was playing, and it's

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Speaker 3: that's a that's a tough, tough ask if you're the

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Speaker 3: Bengals and Jake Browning is gonna be the guy because

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Speaker 3: Flacco's deal with an injury. We hope to find more

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Speaker 3: about that injury as we go. We'll hear from Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor today at one o'clock. We'll take ourselves a break

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Speaker 3: right now. When we come back, the phone lines are

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Speaker 3: Keeping Toronto in it. That series is tied Game five

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Speaker 3: in la Is tonight. Before shifting back to Toronto.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that if the Blue Jays win the

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Speaker 4: World Series, sho Hao Tani could still win the MVP

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Speaker 4: World Series MVP. If Vlatti wasn't playing at the level

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Speaker 3: to John Poost calling and what's up?

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Speaker 5: John? Good aftering fellows, how are you good?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 5: We're hanging in there.

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Speaker 7: You guys nailed it a few minutes ago talking about

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Speaker 7: the run game.

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Speaker 5: Here's a team that had.

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Speaker 7: A two score lead Sunday for most of the game

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Speaker 7: and only had twenty three rushes. And again, as you said, Austin,

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Speaker 7: in terms of situation football, how poorly.

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Speaker 5: It was done.

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Speaker 7: Think back to the first possession of the second half.

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Speaker 7: You force a punt, You're up eleven and you throw

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Speaker 7: three straight passes. That also happened again later in the

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Speaker 7: game when you're trying to at least maintain a lead.

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Speaker 7: You know, four minute offense is based as much off

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Speaker 7: the run as it is off the pass, if not

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Speaker 7: more so. It's kind of got away from the run

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Speaker 7: a little bit too much for my liking in that game,

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Speaker 7: when you are up to scores, you'd have more than

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Speaker 7: twenty three rushes when you're averaging.

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Speaker 5: Eight yards per attempt.

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Speaker 7: And then also as far as the offense, and it's

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Speaker 7: not to criticize an offense that scored thirty eight points

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Speaker 7: against a really good defense, but they've got to get

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Speaker 7: the other playmakers involved early.

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Speaker 5: Look, Jamar Chase to me and.

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Speaker 7: Miles Garrett are the two best players in the league

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Speaker 7: that don't play quarterback. I mean, Jami Chase is amazing.

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Speaker 7: Forty percent of his snaps come from the slot. He's

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Speaker 7: over the middle making catches. He's not like this outside

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Speaker 7: guy tiptoes and steps out of bounds. But you're gonna

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Speaker 7: get him killed with forty two targets the last two weeks.

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Speaker 7: You've got to get the other guys involved early so

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Speaker 7: that when you go back to them in the second half.

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Speaker 5: They feel in rhythm. It's like a basketball player, right.

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Speaker 7: You got to get your shooters some shots early. Let

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Speaker 7: them see the ball go through the basket. Their confidence

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Speaker 7: goes Hi, you got Yuseivish. You're not going to him

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Speaker 7: till late second quarter, fourth quarter. I mean, he's any

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Speaker 7: kind of great receiver, but he's out of rhythm at

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Speaker 7: that point. You've got to spread the ball a little

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Speaker 7: bit more to try to get all those guys involved

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Speaker 7: so you can call on them later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the.

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Speaker 3: Disparity in which they're spreading the ball around. And I

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Speaker 3: get it, Joe Flacco's no idiot. Jamar Chase is the

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Speaker 3: best in the game. Give him as many touches as

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Speaker 3: humanly possible, but there has to be a counter or

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Speaker 3: counters to that. You have to be able at times

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Speaker 3: to use Jamar Chase as almost a decoy at times

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Speaker 3: to open up something else. They're just not doing that.

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Speaker 3: And one of the questions I had, because I John

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Speaker 3: I was a promoter on Monday, and I talked about

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Speaker 3: this with Mo and we actually had someone calling the

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Speaker 3: show and talk about it. The game and almost your

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Speaker 3: season is hanging in the balance on the final drive

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Speaker 3: of the game and it's fourth and nine and you've

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Speaker 3: got two timeouts left. I would have loved to see

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Speaker 3: the Bengals use a time out there, regroup, get to

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Speaker 3: the sideline, because if you think about the series, before

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Speaker 3: they go three and out, Flacco's heard and he goes

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Speaker 3: into the locker room. So it's not like going into

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Speaker 3: that last drive of the game they were able to

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Speaker 3: talk about, Hey, here's what's coming up, this is what

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Speaker 3: we're looking for. They didn't have any of that, so

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Speaker 3: Flacco runs back out on the field. It probably feels

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Speaker 3: rushed already. He's not in depth with the play calling

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Speaker 3: as it is. It's fourth and nine, you got two

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Speaker 3: timeouts to kill. Take one and get everyone on board.

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Speaker 3: Hey Joe, what are you thinking here? Based on what

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Speaker 3: you're seeing? Jamar, what do you like? T what do

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Speaker 3: you like? Get Dan Pitcher's opinion, Get Troy Walter's opinion.

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Speaker 3: It to me just felt like one of those situations.

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Speaker 3: How many times do we see in football a team

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Speaker 3: would maybe line up, so here's where we're lining up,

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Speaker 3: Let's see how the defense is lining up, and then

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Speaker 3: let's take a time out and make sure we're good.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Instead you just snapped the ball and it feels like

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Speaker 3: it's rushed, and the next thing you know, you're throwing

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Speaker 3: a ball contested to Yoshi over the middle of the field.

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Speaker 3: That's where I would have liked it as whether it's

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Speaker 3: Troy Walters or somebody else to come over and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: fourth and nine, I would assume that they're going to

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Speaker 3: double team Jamar Chase. Is there anything we can do

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Speaker 3: to free up t Higgins here? Can we put them

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Speaker 3: on the same side, Can we send him in motion?

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Speaker 3: Let's just make sure on the biggest play of the

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Speaker 3: year to that date, that everyone's on the on the

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Speaker 3: same page.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a.

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Speaker 7: Mess, absolutely, absolutely, And you look at that defense being

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Speaker 7: so bad they were letting the play clock or actually

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Speaker 7: the game clock go down, because I'm almost considering that

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Speaker 7: they wanted to kick the game winning field goal at

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Speaker 7: the buzzer, because for SUA the week before against Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 7: you give Aaron Rodgers a hail mary who's better than him?

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Speaker 7: They screw that up when they took their final time

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Speaker 7: out with like fifteen or twelve seconds left on the

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Speaker 7: play clock, when they could have drained it all the

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Speaker 7: way down and kicked it as a walk off. Even

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Speaker 7: like you guys mentioned at the end of the second

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Speaker 7: quarter on the Chase Brown touchdown, I'm like, go down

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Speaker 7: at the one because I don't even want to get

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Speaker 7: the Jets the ball back at that point. Just go

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Speaker 7: down and kick a field goal, which those field goals

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Speaker 7: at the end of the half. I'd like to do

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Speaker 7: research on this. When if team kicks a field goal

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Speaker 7: going into the hats, like a walk off second quarter

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Speaker 7: field goal, I wonder what the win percentage is. It

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Speaker 7: seems like those field goals are used. The Patriots had

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Speaker 7: one this week against Cleveland. They turned the seven to

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Speaker 7: six deficit into a nine to seven advantage and then

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Speaker 7: they went on from there. Now, obviously Patriots are better

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Speaker 7: than Cleveland, but just situational football is completely idiotic on

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Speaker 7: this team.

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Speaker 5: I just it's it's mind blowing and.

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Speaker 7: That that that is the coach, that comes from the coach.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the players can take some of the blame,

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Speaker 7: I guess, but the coach is still the final word.

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Speaker 7: And if we're going to praise him when he puts

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Speaker 7: together a great game plan, got to criticize him when

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Speaker 7: he does things wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yep, completely agree, Thanks Fellows. John, Thank you man, have

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Speaker 2: a good one.

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Speaker 5: Austin.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to that play for like, do you

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Speaker 3: think and who would this be for the Bengals? Because

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Speaker 3: I've said many times it's hard to be a head

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Speaker 3: coach and a play caller with everything else going on

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Speaker 3: over the course of the game, especially when your defense stinks,

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Speaker 3: because Zach is probably paying attention to what the defense

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Speaker 3: is or isn't doing. He's he's trying to put fires

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Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. You're making decisions on

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Speaker 3: fourth down and when to run, when to pass. Do

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Speaker 3: you think they have someone in place, Austin that would

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Speaker 3: come up to Zach over the course of a game,

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Speaker 3: say at halftime or third quarter, and say, hey, you

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Speaker 3: know in between series, Hey T's got two targets today,

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Speaker 3: Let's make it a point to.

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Speaker 2: Get him one.

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Speaker 3: Because I don't even blame Zach as much for that,

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Speaker 3: because when you're a play caller and you're in the

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Speaker 3: heat of the moment, you're not keeping track of how

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Speaker 3: many touches anyone has or how many targets. Do you

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Speaker 3: think there's someone on this staff that can do that

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Speaker 3: or that does that.

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Speaker 2: To Zach Taylor? I would think that there is just

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Speaker 2: gotta be right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that they are that inept, and

657
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Speaker 4: it's not long offensively that there wouldn't be that person.

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Speaker 4: I also think, based off watching the film, that there

659
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Speaker 4: was a lot of times where Joe Flacco just said,

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Speaker 4: I'm not going anywhere else but Jamar Chase. Yeah, there

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Speaker 4: were four passes that he threw that probably should have

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Speaker 4: been interceptions. Now I don't think all of them were

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Speaker 4: to Jamar Chase, but there were passes thrown by Joe

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Speaker 4: Flacco that he should not have thrown. And there were

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Speaker 4: multiple times when there's actually one Andre Yoshavash wins on

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Speaker 4: a slant. It's like a double slant. Yoshi is the

667
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Speaker 4: inside guy, Chase is the outside guy. Yoshi's the first read,

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Speaker 4: and he wins and has separation, and Flacco doesn't even

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Speaker 4: think about throwing it to him. He forces it into

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Speaker 4: that window behind Jamar Chase. It's incomplete, that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Like Flacco I think has gotten into this rhythm to

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Speaker 4: it a point where it's like I'm just throwing it

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Speaker 4: to Jamar no matter what. I'm looking at him first,

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Speaker 4: and then we'll figure it out. I would think that

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Speaker 4: those conversations are had in the film room.

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Speaker 3: Hey, here's t Higgins, and I wonder here's so and so.

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Speaker 3: I wonder too, because I had these conversations had with

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Speaker 3: me at times when I played quarterback at the college level,

679
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Speaker 3: of in between a series, just coming up and saying, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call this on first down. I want to

681
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Speaker 3: get a touch to Tea. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 3: because you can see maybe he is forcing it to

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Speaker 3: Jamar a little bit, and just an easy reminder of hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call this coming out here on first or

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Speaker 3: second down. I'm calling this so that we can get

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Speaker 3: the ball to Tea and go from there. And I

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Speaker 3: just I look at that last series and I just

688
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Speaker 3: think of a miss of what it was. Because it's

689
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Speaker 3: important in between series in the NFL, it's important to

690
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: get the the dialect. It's important to visit with you know,

691
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: anything the receivers may have saw with the coaches, you're

692
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: on the iPad, you're you're talking to the other quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: It's it's tough when you go three and out and

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Speaker 3: then you're going into the locker room and you don't

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Speaker 3: get any of that, and then you come back out

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Speaker 3: to the field and oh, by the way, you're now

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Speaker 3: down by a point.

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Speaker 2: You got to orchestrate a drive.

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Speaker 3: Your head's probably just spinning a little bit more than

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Speaker 3: what it already was. And so yeah, I think if

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Speaker 3: you're looking back on this as as Zach Taylor or

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Speaker 3: Dan Pitcher or anyone else, I think a fourth and

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00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: nine timeout would have been would have been necessary.

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Speaker 4: The part that I think is most frustrating is that

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Speaker 4: it's not like this is the first time these guys

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Speaker 4: are working together. You know, Dan Pitcher's been here for

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Speaker 4: a long time and has worked with Zach for a

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Speaker 4: long time. Brad Kragthorpe has been here for a long time. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Troy Walters has been here for a long time. There

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Speaker 4: Scotti is in his second year. Like there's it's this

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Speaker 4: operation should be more cleaned up in that situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's the part I think is frustrating is like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: settle down, let's talk about this. And you know, I

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Speaker 4: understand maybe you want to preserve the time out. I

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Speaker 4: get it, But at the same time, there's no point

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Speaker 4: if you if you don't convert the fourth time you take.

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Speaker 7: It with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is uh frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, nothing you can do about it. Now, you push

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Speaker 3: forward and uh and hope to not to make the

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Speaker 3: same mistake twice. We'll grab one more phone call here.

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Speaker 8: What's up Jonathan, afternoon, gentlemen, It's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 5: Once I wanted to.

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Speaker 8: Touch on that made me laugh asterday.

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Speaker 5: I saw post that said I.

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Speaker 8: Want the Bengals to be my pall Bears at my

728
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Speaker 8: funerals so they can let me down one more time. Gosh,

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Speaker 8: you guys get a kick out of that, and then

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Speaker 8: the other portion coming up to this Bears game. I'm

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Speaker 8: a Bears fan and I got tickets and I'm excited.

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Speaker 8: Now last week was a bad game because our defensive

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Speaker 8: backs were out. We got one possibly returning, and I

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Speaker 8: know we just signed guy to play for the Eagles,

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Speaker 8: but man, it's gonna be a very interesting game. A

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Speaker 8: little chili, but I'm wearing shorts and I'm excited. Let's

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Speaker 8: go Bears.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have a fun time. Jonathan. I

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Speaker 4: really do the Bears themselves. Austin, let's spend a few

741
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Speaker 4: minutes to finish up hour one talking about that Bears team.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we'll then spin that to the

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Speaker 4: top of our number two where we're here from Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 4: All coming up next on the Home of the Bengals

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Speaker 4: the ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports station Y.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back our one sincey three to sixty.

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and his weekly Wednesday press conference will happen

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Speaker 3: at one o'clock. We'll carry that. That is next. The

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Speaker 3: team that the Bengals are getting ready to prepare for

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Speaker 3: is the Chicago Bears. Let's start with just the season

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Speaker 3: itself for the Bears, because they start zho to two,

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Speaker 3: and part of that and two was getting absolutely raw

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Speaker 3: it at Detroit fifty two to twenty one, and then

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Speaker 3: they did pull off four consecutive wins, those wins coming

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Speaker 3: against Dallas, Las Vegas, Washington and New Orleans, so playing

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Speaker 3: much better football. I think the disappointing side of this

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Speaker 3: is they went to Baltimore on Sunday. Lamar did not

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Speaker 3: play Again. Was Tyler Hunley who helped hang thirty on

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Speaker 3: the board against the Bears, and their four game win

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Speaker 3: streak came to an end. To me, we have discussed

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Speaker 3: austin the deficiencies of the Bears defense offensively, though, DeAndre

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Speaker 3: Swift over the last couple has had a couple hundred

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Speaker 3: yard games mixed in there. On the ground, He's running

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Speaker 3: it for four point six yards per carry. He's also

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Speaker 3: their third leading receiver on the year as well, behind

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Speaker 3: Roma Dunes and DJ Moore. What worries you most about

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Speaker 3: the offensive skill set of this Bears team.

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Speaker 4: It's just their ability to run the football. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 4: the Bengals are the worst in the NFL, second worst

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Speaker 4: when it comes to actually no the worst run defense

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Speaker 4: in the NFL, Chicago is tenth, and overall Chicago's offense

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Speaker 4: is is pretty good. They're twelfth overall, tenth in past

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Speaker 4: tenth in run game, and they're averaging one hundred and

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Speaker 4: twenty four yards per game on the ground. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the Jets were the worst offense in the NFL coming

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Speaker 4: into this game last week, and they put up nearly

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Speaker 4: three hundred yards on the ground and they probably could

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Speaker 4: have had a lot more. So that's the big thing

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Speaker 4: for me is can you stop the run? It's cliche

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Speaker 4: and it's talked about constantly and everybody always says the

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Speaker 4: same thing, which is, you know, how do you stop

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Speaker 4: a team? How do you win a game? It starts

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Speaker 4: by stopping the run. I think the other thing Bears

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Speaker 4: fans would tell you is they feel like they've left

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Speaker 4: some meat on the bone in the red zone, which

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Speaker 4: I think is interesting. I don't know if that's a

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams thing. I don't know if it's a Ben

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Speaker 4: Johnson thing. I'm not sure exactly what the problems have

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Speaker 4: been for the Bears in the red zone, but they

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Speaker 4: have left some meat on the bone in that part

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Speaker 4: of their offense. And if the Bengals want to have

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Speaker 4: a path to victory, it's going to be forcing turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Can you force turnovers in the red zone? I think

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Speaker 4: is going to be a big part of this game.

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Speaker 3: Yardage standpoint Caleb Williams is fourteenth in the NFL at

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty three yards per game, although he's

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Speaker 3: just completing I believe around sixty percent of his passes

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Speaker 3: sixty one point nine percent of his passes. That's bottom

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Speaker 3: third in the NFL. So the c completion percentage isn't there.

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Speaker 3: He's got nine touchdowns competitor just foreig interceptions. But the

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Speaker 3: interesting dynamic, and what you brought up was the red zone, Austin.

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Speaker 3: When I look at this team on paper and I

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Speaker 3: think of red zone success, I think that I thought

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Speaker 3: they would be getting more from Cole Comet and Colston

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Speaker 3: Loveland at this point. I mean two, especially with where

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Speaker 3: they drafted Loveland at that high in the draft and

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Speaker 3: Comet coming back. I thought those two tight end sets

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Speaker 3: would be successful for this team. But right now those

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Speaker 3: two can just combine for twenty catches on the year

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Speaker 3: as a whole, So they're just not getting the production

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Speaker 3: at tight end. And I viewed tight ends as an extremely,

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Speaker 3: extremely big help in the red zone and really not

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Speaker 3: having them be as dominant as I thought is a

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Speaker 3: little bit surprising to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know, I know Cole Comet has been

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Speaker 4: dealing with a little bit of a back injury, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: it does make you wonder because especially the way that

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Speaker 4: the tight ends were used in that offense with Ben

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Speaker 4: Johnson and Detroit and how impactful they were, especially down

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Speaker 4: in the red zone. But you know, the Bengals have

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Speaker 4: never been able to cover tight ends. That's pretty much

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Speaker 4: a common theme over the last I don't know, thirty

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Speaker 4: five forty years of Bengals football that they can't cover

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Speaker 4: tight ends. So I would expect a big day from

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Speaker 4: that group for the Bears. I expect a big day

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Speaker 4: from the Bears offense altogether. I mean, yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: Like if you just go through the rankings, all right,

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Speaker 4: and I know that the rankings don't tell the whole story.

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Speaker 4: Total defense, the Bengals are thirty second. Rush defense their

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Speaker 4: thirty second, so DFL and both those two, and then

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Speaker 4: pass defense their thirtieth. Compare that to Chicago, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: total offense twelfth, pass and rush offense tenth. Then when

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Speaker 4: you flip it to the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 4: Chicago does have some issues on defense their twenty fifth

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Speaker 4: total and they have been a little bit banged up

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Speaker 4: and that's a big issue for them. But twenty fifth

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Speaker 4: in total defense, the Bengals are twenty ninth in total offense.

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Speaker 4: In pass defense, Chicago is thirteenth. The Bengals are twenty

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Speaker 4: first and pass offense rush defense, as I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 4: twenty seventh in the NFL, is Chicago Cincinnati thirty first,

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Speaker 4: but obviously trending in the right direction. I did think

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Speaker 4: it was interesting last week against Snoopuntley in the Baltimore

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Speaker 4: Ravens they generated almost no pressure on the quarterback, and

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Speaker 4: that is again part of a way the Bengals can

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Speaker 4: at least be effective been holding onto the ball and

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Speaker 4: maybe keeping their own defense off the field. If you know,

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Speaker 4: they did a pretty good job against that Jets front,

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Speaker 4: who's one of the better fronts in the NFL, in

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Speaker 4: protecting Joe Flacco. I think they allowed those two sacks,

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Speaker 4: and obviously one of them got them hurt. But you know,

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Speaker 4: if they're able to continue that trajectory and protect the

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Speaker 4: quarterback a little bit, that could be a good thing

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Speaker 4: for the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Williams against that Ravens team did turn the ball

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Speaker 3: over once. They could not get anything going on the ground,

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Speaker 3: which is surprising because the Ravens defense has struggled at

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Speaker 3: times this year.

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Speaker 4: I will say sixteen points against that Ravens defense, not

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Speaker 4: getting sixty of Caleb William's yards came on in garbage

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Speaker 4: time at the very end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Ben Johnson thing. Look, it's a dynamic

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Speaker 3: that has to be talked about because I remember the

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Speaker 3: schedule came out often and talking about I would like

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Speaker 3: to play the Bears a little earlier because you feel

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Speaker 3: it maybe by that time of the year they'll start

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Speaker 3: to have a better handle on what Ben Johnson wants

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Speaker 3: them to be. And I would have thought that with

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Speaker 3: the four game winning streak, but it kind of took

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Speaker 3: a major step back against the Baltimore Ravens, who are

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Speaker 3: not a good defense. But there still is the concept

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Speaker 3: out there of scheme and coaching and viewing Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: as a weapon. Yeah, Jimmy's and Joe's versus x'es and oh,

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Speaker 3: I look at that four game stretch though, Seriously, Dallas,

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas, Washington and the Saints it's Chicago won. Are

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Speaker 3: any of those teams good? No, I'm not convinced on Washington.

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Speaker 3: They're the only one. They're the only one that has

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Speaker 3: an argument in my opinion is the Commanders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the three teams they've lost to are potentially

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Speaker 4: playoff teams or Minnesota was at the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 4: and they obviously are now hurt and probably not going

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Speaker 4: to recover from that. But it's not I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: not like the Bengals are in that category. That Bengals

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Speaker 4: are one of the worst teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is that the I guess, would you say, so

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Speaker 3: far the marquee win for Ben Johnson with the Commanders, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But even that, again, as you mentioned, that's not

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Speaker 2: the same Commanders team. I think many people thought they

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Speaker 2: were going to be.

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Speaker 4: They barely beat the Commanders, they barely beat the Raiders. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so they certainly have some issues and they are hurt.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what the injury report says later today.

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Speaker 4: For the Bears, we daw Bears.

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