1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Michael, I should remind you that these are the same 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: critics that that gave high praise to a movie called 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Qtis about underage girls dancing provocatively. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: I'd forgot it. They loved it. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so much for protecting a child's innocence. Lagoche 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: does not believe in doing such. 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: I like you forgot about that and had to go 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: look at the Rotten Tomatoes score. The critics certified it 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: fresh at eighty eight percent, and the people put it 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: at fourteen percent. 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: Fourteen fourteen. Yeah. Man, there's a huge cultural divide in 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: this country. I don't want to break this point because 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't want you to misunderstand or miss read what 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying. Anyone who's mother or father or child is kidnapped, disappears, 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: goes missing, whatever, that's a horrible tragedy for that family. 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: But I'm kind of mesmerized by this again celebrity status. 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: Fox News Now, of course I don't see the other 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: cables in here. I just see Fox, CE NBC's obviously 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: talking about the markets, and over here on KTVR they're 20 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: talking about the government shutdown, which has me all in 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: a dither because I really don't know how I'm going 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: to go about the rest of my day with the 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: government shut down, or at least partially shut down. It's 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: just he had to catch my breath and think about it. 25 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: But Savannah Guthrie's mother is missing. The sheriff believes that 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: there may have been a crime involved, And every single 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: time that I've looked at Fox News, I'm not exaggerating. 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: This is what they're talking about on Fox News. Now. 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: There are other families where they'll issue if it's a 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: child and amber alert, if it's a you know, an 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: adult silver alert, whatever they call it. There are people 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: that go missing all the time and nobody gives it 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: wall to wall coverage. And I hope they find her, 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: and I hope she's okay. And I feel sorry for 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Savannah Guthrie and her family for having to deal with this. 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: But the point I want to make to you is, 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: let's kind of get away from all this celebrity stuff, 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: because if that's news, so is the news of every 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: other grandmother or grandfather or child or aunt or uncle 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: that goes missing. Oh just and I think the other 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: reason I'll bear my soul here. The other reason that 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: bothers me is again I gave the example of like, 43 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like Jane Goodall. I've lived and worked 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: among these people, and some of them are really nice people. 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Some of them are jerks, some are really smart, some 46 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: are really stupid. In other words, they're just like all 47 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: of us. They they put their pants on the same way. Hopefully, 48 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: I guess they use the toilet the same way. I 49 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: don't know. But WHYANTT? Whyant? Because I think about the 50 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: people that are watching it. I never really think about 51 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: what they're feeding in terms of the cabal, but the 52 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: people who are consuming it, what, what are you taking 53 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: from that? 54 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: How? 55 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: How's that uh improving your life? How's that making you 56 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: smarter or wiser? How's that affecting you? Other than to 57 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: keep you all stirred up that oh my gosh, somebody's 58 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: being kidnapped or someone's missing or something something awful has happened. 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, so we're gonna shift from that to 60 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: some research that I did over the weekend. I understand 61 00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's exasperation about ice, particularly in Minnesota. Now, once 62 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: I've said that, I can see the neurons firing in 63 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: every listener's brain right now, because every one of us, 64 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: including yours truly has preconceived notions about what's right, what's wrong, 65 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: what's known, what's unknown. There are all of these factors 66 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: about what's going on in Minnesota, and one of the 67 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: topics that has come up because of what's come up 68 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: long before. But I think ices involvement, particularly in Minneapolis now, 69 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: ICE is active all over the country. Right now, ICE 70 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: is active without incident, in municipalities and states all across 71 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: the country, and there's no big news story about it. 72 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: There are no riots, there are no shootings, there's nothing. 73 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: Illegal aliens, criminal illegal aliens sometimes that's redundant, are being 74 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: arrested and taking either in front of an administrative law 75 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 2: judge or an immigration judge or a federal judge, and 76 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: they're being deported. And that's the way it should be, 77 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: and that's the way it is. What makes us think 78 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: differently about Minnesota the same thing that would make us 79 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: think differently if it was happening in Colorado. We are 80 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: a sanctuary state, and Denver is a sanctuary city. Now 81 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: a sanctuary city tells the local cops to not cooperate 82 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: with federal immigration agents or anybody acting on their behalf 83 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: because it could be customs and Border Patrol. It could 84 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: be Immigrations and Customs enforcement. It could be the US Marshals, 85 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: it could be an FBI as it could be any 86 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: number of people. So the local mayor or the governor 87 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: are telling their law enforcement not to cooperate with the 88 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: federal law enforcement officers. Now, the Constitution's supremacy clause dictates 89 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: that federal law overrules local law, and for jurisdictions to 90 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: offer refuge from those big MENI ICE agents should not 91 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: legally be possible, but it is possible, and I found 92 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: a workaround. And that workaround is the tenth Amendments anti 93 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: commandeering doctrine, which I'll explain, but before I do, in 94 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: the next five minutes, you got the chance to win 95 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: one thousand dollars if you get the keyword sponsored by 96 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 2: Mercedes Bens of Littleton. That's Mercedes off Lyttleton dot com. 97 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: Hey Michael, pretty interesting topic you're on here speaking on 98 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: the politicization of entertainment. Although a Milania documentary is already 99 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: by denth of nature somewhat political. 100 00:06:59,080 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: But this is why. 101 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: Oh then earlier and said that the Pruce Willis death 102 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: wish was an a puno. It wasn't Bruce Willis as acting, 103 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 4: he was awesome as always, but it was the writing 104 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: and the preaching all right later. 105 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: You number fifty I agree fifty five niney writes Michael. 106 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm with you that I hope Guthrie's mom is found 107 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: safe and unharmed. But this is another issue of the 108 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: cabal thinking that the world revolves around them, meaning that 109 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: if the weather shuts down New York City or DC, 110 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: the world is coming to an end. While there's three 111 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five million of us who don't give 112 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: a rip about the woes of New York City or DC. Guthrie, 113 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: being an NBC star, has an avenue to promoting her 114 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: mom's disappearance that the rest of us don't. A national 115 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: TV show. She has friends at the other networks and 116 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: they want to help her friend. Therefore, if getting coverage, 117 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: is it a perk of the elite? Yes? Would I 118 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: do the same if it were my mom and had 119 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: the bully pulpit? Yes? So I won't criticize her for 120 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 2: using a two with her disposal, I guess I am. 121 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm not criticizing her for reaching out to her friends, 122 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: but what I am criticizing is the extent to which 123 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: they're doing it, they might as well. Just now Fox 124 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: is actually interviewing, not interviewing, but talking about a king 125 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: Jefferies right now. So at least they've moved on to 126 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: something for the time being. But I go back to 127 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: who's consuming this now? If this is, for example, this 128 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 2: again goes back to your this example about the weather. 129 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: This happened somewhere in Arizona. I don't know whether it 130 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 2: was Phoenix, Tucson. I don't know, but it happened in Arizona, 131 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: not in New York or DC. So her mother must 132 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: live in Arizona. And they said off from the Mexican border, 133 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 2: so I assume down near Tucson somewhere. Well, I am 134 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: hopeful that they find her mother. And while I'm certainly concerned, 135 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: you know, because I've met Savannah a couple of times, 136 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm concerned. I'm not going to I'm my life doesn't 137 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: revolve around that. But I am concerned about people whose 138 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: lies are so consumed by that kind of stuff that 139 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: they miss, not that this isn't important, but they miss 140 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 2: what's going on in their own backyard. There is literally 141 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: nothing that I could do other than maybe say a 142 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: prayer for her mother that she'd be found safe and sound. 143 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 2: And then I move on that there are too many 144 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: people in the world that live and breathe that and 145 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: won't let it go it and that disturbs me because 146 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: there are so many other things going on, And quite frankly, 147 00:09:53,320 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: juxtapose that, which is the elitest position she has to 148 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: anybody else whose grandmother or grandfather or family member has 149 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: gone missing, who maybe one of those who consumes it, 150 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: you know, just add nauseum, and that builds some resentment, 151 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: or it builds a false hope, kind of like you know, 152 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: people that really can't afford to buy a lottery ticket, 153 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: but buy it not for the entertainment value, not because 154 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: oh I'm gonna go spend the buck. And you know, 155 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: if I win a bazillion dollars ha ha, that'll be finding. 156 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: You know, I'll quit my job and oh, I promise 157 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: that you have dragging a million dollars. That's not gonna happen. 158 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: But you know, it's just it's it's the idea that 159 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: you believe that you're really going to win that million 160 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: dollars is going to change your life, and you don't 161 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: understand the odds whatsoever. That's what bugs me about it. Anyway, 162 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: back to the anti commandeering doctrine. When you think about 163 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities, it is very very easy to think that 164 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: local law enforcement refusing to cooperate with ICE is not 165 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: in the interests of that community's own citizens. And it's 166 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: not because deporting criminal aliens actually makes people safer. Releasing 167 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: prisoners into the general population makes tracking by the general population. 168 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: I don't mean general population in the prison, I mean 169 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: out into the outside the prison general population. That does 170 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: not make us safer. It makes tracking them down more difficult, 171 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: and it makes it more dangerous for those ICE agents, 172 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: who are then more likely to nab collateral damage immigrants 173 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 2: that gets swept up in an operation but they don't 174 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: really have any criminal record. A reputation as a sanctuary 175 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: draws an inordinate number of illegal aliens eager for shelter 176 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: from arrest, and they overburdened local service, and they cost 177 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: those taxpayers money that should be spent on other things. 178 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: In the FEDS versus the state fight over who controls immigration. 179 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: Remember Joe Biden's administration sent Federal Border Patrol agents to 180 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: remove razor wire from the banks of the Real Grande 181 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: and those floating barriers from the river that had been 182 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: put in there by Governor Abbott and the Texas legislature 183 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: under something and done by the Texas National Guard under 184 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: Operation Loan Star. That was a state initiative to frustrate 185 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 2: illegal crossings from Mexico. In other words, Biden's federal government 186 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: reserved to itself alone the right to not enforce federal 187 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: immigration law. Now wrap your head around that. 188 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: Michael was such a bumber. 189 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: We had tickets to go. 190 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 2: See Milania last night and we get to the movie 191 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: theater and boom, the power goes out. 192 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: So they shut the theater down and we never did 193 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: get to see it. 194 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: So I guess, uh, it was a conspiracy. I don't know, 195 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: what do you think, Well, of course it was a conspiracy. 196 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: Excel didn't want you to see it. So everybody's power 197 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: went out and I was. I learned about it because 198 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: I got an email from a monitoring service that we 199 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: have about power outages and surges and stuff. 200 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: I learned about the power outage because my power went out. 201 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the notes I got while I was away 202 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: from the house was that you know, the power in 203 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 2: your home has gone out, but it's not from Excel. 204 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: The notes I got was from a private service that 205 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: we used though monitors power surges and stuff. But my 206 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: first thought was, welcome to California. You know, we're shutting 207 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: down the cold plant down in Pueblo, and I get that. 208 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: If you if you are in love with renewable energy, 209 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: I congratulations. You're in love with a girl or a guy. 210 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: Whichever kind of electron you date, that may or may 211 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: not show up. If you're dating a windmill, a wind 212 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: turbine electron, or you're dating a solar panel generated electron, 213 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: and you are the substation that's going to pick up 214 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: that electron and take them to dinner by delivering it 215 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: to my house. The substation doesn't really care where the 216 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: electron comes from. What they care about is that the 217 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: electron actually shows up, which is the problem with solar 218 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: and wind. Those electrons aren't always going to show up. 219 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: And we don't have It's not my fault, but we 220 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: don't have the kind of battery technology or the kind 221 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: of storage capacity that we need to have cheap reliable energy, 222 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: or for that matter, of the theaters don't have back 223 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: up power or a generator or anything else so that 224 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: they can go ahead and have money. So we're just 225 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: we are rapidly descending into California hell, thanks to Excel 226 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: Energy and thing you know, not just Excel, it's all 227 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: of them, and all of them are under the thumb 228 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: of the Public Utilities Commission, which is under the thumb 229 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: of the all of the dumbasses out of the polit 230 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: bureau and the dumb ass governor that we have. So 231 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: that's why you have blackouts. You got it right there. 232 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: Back to the supremacy clause. So think about how the 233 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: supremacy clause gets violated in both directions all the time. 234 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: So Biden decided to use it by telling Texas you, well, 235 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: this is immigration. You can't do anything about it. So 236 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: we're going to force you to rip out all of 237 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: the the razor wire and the booze and everything that 238 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: was in the Rio Grande River. And didn't think about 239 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: the word sanctuary that serves as propaganda for the open 240 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 2: borders crab, because the association with sanctuary an association with 241 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: a congregation or a church that conjures up visions of 242 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: you know, innocent people they're fleet they're trying to hide from, 243 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, a brutal dictator or you know a a 244 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: gestapo or something, and that tag sanctuary smacks of righteousness, 245 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 2: and that casts the law of the land as somehow 246 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: being cruel and illegitimate, and it is not. So what 247 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: does this? What does the doctrine do? The anti commandeering 248 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: doctrine do in the most not the most recent, but 249 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: I think the most easily understood Supreme Court case is 250 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety two, and that's where, in a case 251 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: called New York versus us, the Court struck down a 252 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: federal law that required states to either regulate radioactive waste 253 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: according to federal standards and if you're not going to 254 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: do that, then you have to take complete state ownership 255 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: of that radioactive waste. In other words, the FEDERALI wipe 256 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: their hands of it. And Justice O'Connor, who wrote the 257 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: majority opinion, said that while Congress can encourage states to 258 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: adopt federal policies through conditional spending or preemption, it cannot 259 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: commandeer the legislative processes of the states by directly compelling 260 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: them to enact and enforce a federal regulatory program. And 261 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: this is what she wrote. Though the Congress can coerce, 262 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: persuade kind of threaten if you will, to adopt a 263 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: federal policy, because if you get any sort of spending, 264 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: they can condition that spending on your adherence to what 265 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: they want you to do, or they can just preempt 266 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: that area entirely and say we're going to take complete 267 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 2: control of it. You can't do anything with it, or 268 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: they could wipe their hands of it and say, well, 269 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: have nothing to do with this. That's entirely a state issue. 270 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: So it gets applied both directions. And this is where 271 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: it gets legally interesting, because sanctuary cities and states rely 272 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: heavily on the anti common during doctrine, but to do 273 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: so requires a pretty careful analysis. States cannot be forced 274 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: to use their own resources or personnel. They can't be 275 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: forced to use their own legislative process to enforce federal 276 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: immigration law. So that means the states don't have to 277 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: detain an immigrant beyond listen carefully beyond their criminal custody 278 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: based solely on an ICE detainer request, and they can't 279 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: be required to investigate a detainees or a prisoner's immigration status. 280 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 2: And they cannot be forced to share the information from 281 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: their state database with a federal database. And the local 282 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: jails don't have to hold an individual past their release 283 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: date just because the FEDS asked them to. But here's 284 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: what's constitutionally contested, The federal government argued, I think rightfully so, 285 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: because some circuit courts have upheld this. The sanctuary policies 286 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: go beyond passive non cooperation into active obstruction of federal 287 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: immigration law when they prohibit the state or local officials 288 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: from just voluntarily sharing information. They're already at their keyboards, 289 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 2: they're already in the database. There's nothing that is you know, 290 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: those embedded costs exist anyway. There's no additional significant flat medicine. 291 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: It's insignificant to hit send to send whatever that spreadsheet 292 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: shows to your cou counterpart at a federal agency. You 293 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: could bar ICE agents from accessing jails to interview or 294 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: pick up the immigrants. You could require, you know, a 295 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: notice to the immigrants before ICE could access them. Or 296 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: you could criminalize cooperation with federal immigration authorities. But that 297 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: would take the states actively doing something legislatively. The distinction 298 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: is that anti commandeering prevents compels assistance, but it doesn't 299 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: authorize affirmative interference with those operations, and that leads us 300 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: to the practical reality. Federal immigration enforcement depends heavily on 301 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 2: state cooperation because we see it happening everywhere else. Because 302 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 2: ICE has about six thousand deportation officers to cover a 303 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: nation of three hundred and twenty five three thirty million people. 304 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: So when a state doesn't cooperate, ICE has to conduct 305 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: more field operations, which is constantly are more dangerous. Immigrants 306 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: are arrested in communities rather than a secure jail set, 307 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 2: which sets up the opportunity for agents to be harmed. 308 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 2: Federal resources get strained, and enforcement becomes less efficient. But 309 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 2: the constitution doesn't guarantee the federal government an easy path 310 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: to enforcement. Federalism sometimes means federal laws are harder to enforce. 311 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 2: That's a feature, not a bug of divided sovereignty. That's 312 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: a feature of federalism. But just because you don't have 313 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: to doesn't mean that you should or should not. The 314 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: anti commandeering doctrine really isn't about whether immigration enforcement is 315 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: a wise policy. It's about whether the federal government can 316 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: force states to implement that policy. Well, I don't think 317 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: that we're forcing them to implement a policy. We're simply 318 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: asking for some cooperation, and we're also, let me be specific, 319 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: we're asking for cooperation. Like if you're holding someone in 320 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 2: your jail and you know there's a detainer. Let's say 321 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: that Jose, you know Manuel Jose Martinez is being held 322 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: in the Denver City and County jail, and you know 323 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: that ICE has issued a detainer asking you to hold 324 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: that person. I think it is absolutely proper for the 325 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: city in County of Denver to be required to hold 326 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: that individual, not for weeks, not for months, but for 327 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: thirty minutes, an hour, less than a day, so that 328 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: an ICE agent, one ICE agent can come into the jail, 329 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: they can put their hands behind their backs, they can 330 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: be cuffed, and they can be let out without incident, 331 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: into a garage, put into a patrol car, and driven away. 332 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: There's going to be no riots, there's going to be 333 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: no shootings, no interaction with the public. That's very reasonable. 334 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: But they won't do that. They simply won't do it. 335 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: So if you want to argue that the commandeering doctrine 336 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: is somehow forcing them to spend money, then to take 337 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: the opposite view, why not say, to sanctuary cities and 338 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: sanctuary states, Okay, you're right, you don't have to We're 339 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: not going to commandeer you, and we're not going to 340 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: force you to do anything, but we are going to 341 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: condition condition the receipt of federal funds of whatever nature, 342 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: Highway funds, medicare, Medicaid funds, funds for whatever crap we're 343 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: giving money out for. We're going to condition that on 344 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: you doing the following five things, honoring detainer requests, and 345 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: doing simple things like if there is a riot going on, 346 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 2: or we have ice agents surrounded by people who are 347 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: rioting and throwing things and you know, wrecking and tearing 348 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: up automobiles and stuff, then that becomes a local issue, 349 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: because does it really make a difference whether they're vandalizing 350 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: a federal car or a privately owned car. They're violating 351 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: the law and local officers ought to respond to that 352 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 2: violation and do something. Otherwise, what are you doing? And 353 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: I'm not blaming the rank and file for this, I'm 354 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: blaming their political leaders and their chiefs and for that matter, 355 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: of their chaining command. You're actually saying to fellow law enforcement, Yeah, 356 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: we don't care if you get killed. Yeah, we don't 357 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: care if you get in trouble. We don't care if 358 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 2: you get beat up. We don't care if your car 359 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 2: gets vandalized. We're not going to come and help you 360 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 2: that erodes truck because maybe they don't want to come 361 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: and help me. Maybe they don't want to come and 362 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: help you. This commandeering doctrine reflects the founder's choice. Better 363 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: that some federal laws go under enforced than to concentrate 364 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: power by allowing Washington to turn state governm into field 365 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: offices of the federal agencies. That's not what I'm advocating. 366 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: States can retain their sovereignty even when they use in 367 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: ways that we find frustrating. But likewise, we can also say, 368 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 2: so we're not gonna pay you. You want to fix 369 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: those potholes, We're not gonna send you any money for that. 370 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: You want to help your homes run and send you 371 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: money for that? Oh, you need the federal share of 372 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: the snap benefits. Otherwise some people are gonna go hungry. Well, 373 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 2: we're not gonna do that unless you cooperate. So if 374 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: you hear about the anti commandeering doctrine and about whether 375 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 2: using it to kind of justify your sanctuary city or 376 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: state status, I think it can fail because you're not 377 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: asking go arrest that person. We're asking you've already arrested 378 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: that person for some other crime. So before you let 379 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: him out of jail, let us know so we can 380 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: come and pick him up as a safe in a 381 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: safe manner. And oh, by the way, just like you 382 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: would for any citizen, or you should at least for 383 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: any citizen. If someone is vandalizing private property somewhere, if 384 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: someone is vandalizing a business, someone's vandalizing a strip mall, whatever, Yeah, 385 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 2: you're going to send cops to clean up that mess, 386 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 2: to stop the vandalism. Why aren't you doing it or 387 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: why are you not doing it simply because the people 388 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: inside the car being vandalized happens to be ICE agents. 389 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 2: Because that's occurring without without any sort of incident, all 390 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: around the country. In the way says a word that 391 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: brings us to Renee Good, whose very last name, by coincidence, 392 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: captures the spirit of all these anti ICE protests, one 393 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: of which costs her her life. And like many compatriots 394 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 2: last weekend, you know, I watched a bunch of videos 395 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 2: of all the incidents in Minneapolis from various angles. You know, 396 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 2: after blocking the road to the agents, she was ordered 397 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 2: to get out of her suv, she opted instead to 398 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: get the hell away, maybe hitting another agent with a numper. 399 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: Maybe not, and then she got shot, so that sequence 400 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 2: of events may or may not be accurate. There ought 401 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: to be both a federal and the state investigation, and 402 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 2: if legal force was technically justified, the homicide really is 403 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: a political black eye and will only make ICE's deportation 404 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: program even harder. But you don't want to inflame the 405 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: movement with a bunch of martyrs. For a taste of 406 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: the current anti ACES fault, check out the Philadelphia Sheriff's 407 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 2: post good press conference in which she smeared its agents 408 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: as made up, fake want to be law enforcement and 409 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: threaten to arrest any such agents entering her city. Even 410 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: efforts to punish sanctuary cities by withholding federal funds having 411 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: some cases been curtailed by the courts, other cases upheld 412 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: republic because I have introduced a bunch of bills targeting 413 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: the same mechanism. No bailout for sanctuary cities, stop dangerous 414 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: sanctuary cities, no DOT funds for sanctuary cities, no student 415 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 2: visas for sanctuary cities. Clearly, even for some lawmakers, will 416 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: cow's local governments that are claiming to be impervious or 417 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: even animical to American immigration law. Yeah, it's infuriating. The 418 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: problem is that US immigration law has been violated with 419 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: such impunity and disregarded for so long that even a 420 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: politically moderate American cannot believe the third country has the 421 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 2: right to kick anybody out. And sanctuary cities have been litigated, 422 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: and a mirage of Trump administration lawsuits on the matter 423 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: are still pending, but meanwhithers a blizzard of presidential executive authorities, 424 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: authorities that are aimed at these jurisdictions, titled with the 425 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: usual subtlety of like protecting the American people against invasion 426 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: or ending taxpayer substization of open borders to little avail 427 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: in New York or California or Minnesota. The problem is 428 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: that unenforced laws are not laws. They just become words 429 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: on the paper, meaningless, just I don't know, bromides of 430 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: some sort. And when we round up people who here illegally, 431 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: and particularly those who are here illegally and they've committed 432 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: crimes against our own people, making them go home is 433 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: not exactly hospitable, and it's not exactly an easy thing 434 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: to do. And I know it doesn't seem nice, but 435 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: many a law that Americans were enforced doesn't prioritize niceness. 436 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: Walking a rapist and small room that's not nice either. 437 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: Yet you'll not see social movements mobilized to object that 438 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: this generates some sort of climate of fear for violent 439 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: sex offenders. In fact, activists often cite the fact that 440 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: enforcement of US immigration law creates fearfulness in the very 441 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 2: enclaves where the illegal aliens go hide. And actually that's 442 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 2: probably reason enough for ICE to just call it quits. 443 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: According to them, the culture of sanctuary in Democrat policies 444 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: has convinced too many people, such as Renee Good, that 445 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: somehow thwarting the work of ICE is doing God's work. 446 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: Americans broadly support secure borders. They're just uncomfortable seeing the 447 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: enforcement played out on their television screens because the raids 448 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: aren't pretty. But guess what, they can't be pretty. And 449 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: then internationally, these saying videos get swept all over the 450 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: place and it makes us look bad because they don't 451 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: have the rule of law, or they have so succumbed 452 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: to the migration of people from other countries and to 453 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: their country that's actually changing their culture that they no 454 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: longer care. And the change in their culture, oh, there'll 455 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: be pockets out here of resistance, but they've just given up. 456 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't want Americans to give up, and clearly I 457 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: want ICE to act within the bounds of the law. 458 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: So the first thing to do is for Congress to 459 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: quit ignoring what's going on and cut some funding off, 460 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: make them suffer a little bit, make them rethink their 461 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 2: sanctuary city policies.