1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI A six on demand. Tricia, Welcome 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi Jesus, Hi Tricia, how 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: are you great? 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: I just wanted to call you because I called you. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show for quite some time, 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: and I called you a couple of years ago with 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: my husband was diagnosed with cancer and I was so 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: afraid of going on because my kids had health problems, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: and I felt at the time you were harsh with me, 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: and I was actually mad at you. But then I 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: listened to everything you said, and now my best friend. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: I have three best friends in Muffalo, New York, and 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: one of them is dying of cancer. And because of 14 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: what you told me then, and because of listening to 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: your show, I've come to It's hard to explain, but 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: I've I you've taught me the balance between this world 17 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: and Heaven and God and why He gave us this world. 18 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: And and you've taught me too. You've taught me so much. 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: And I wanted to thank you because I was mad 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: at you, because I had lost my way and I 21 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: thought you would be more compassionate. But what you really, 22 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: what you said to me, was the best thing you 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: could ever said to me, because you said you can't. 24 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: You said, Trishy, you can't try to stop, you know, 25 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: try to stop this from happening, and stop that from happening. 26 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: And and there's been every things in life, and you've 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: brought me peace in my own life. And it's hard 28 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: for me to say and well or it's like I've 29 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: like I've learned that being here now I appreciate everything 30 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: God's given me. I have a great family and mean, 31 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: now I'm trying to be a really good person. And 32 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: I used to think of myself as a bad person 33 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 2: for everything. So that grape Catholic and. 34 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if that's a mandate 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: to think bad like that if you're a Catholic. 36 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: But well, I understand when you're raised Catholic, sometimes you're 37 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: tough that you're bad until you until you prove to 38 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: be good, you know, like you're born bad. You have 39 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: to always try to be good. 40 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this and nature can can be a stickler. And 41 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: the important thing is to find that balance and to 42 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: seek out that that goodness and to fight against those 43 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, natural desires to do things wrong or against 44 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: the will of God. And it sounds like you are 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: on your path to doing that. 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't do anything. I really don't have 47 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: to fight to do anything against the will of God. 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: I just always thought I was a bad person just 49 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: for whatever reason. And it wasn't being mean or breaking 50 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: any commandments or just my personality. I just thought I 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: was a bad person just because that's how I was, 52 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: even though I didn't. But but I wanted to tell 53 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: you that I have two children, twins, and I want 54 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: to try it. I don't know how to do this 55 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: because now I feel that this life that God gave me, 56 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying it now. You know, some some people think that, 57 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, that I shocked too much and that I 58 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: do stuff like that. But I feel now at this 59 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: point that I mean I give, you know, I give 60 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: to people who need it, but not. 61 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: Okay, how does this pertain to your children? 62 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: To your kids, because I can't. What I'm trying to 63 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: do is they're twelve. I'm trying to somehow explain to them, 64 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: you know, they are good kids. I'm trying to some 65 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: how The hardest problem I'm having is trying to explain 66 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: to them that this life is temporary and you have 67 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: to be good. You have to do good things. You 68 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: have to be responsible, and you have to do the 69 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: right thing, and you have to be charitable. But I'm 70 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: trying to somehow explain to them. 71 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: That it's it's but it's it's not about words, Tricia. 72 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: It's if you if you get caught up in trying 73 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: to explain to them, especially children even at twelve, they'll 74 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: they'll only hear certain words, that the important thing is 75 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: to be an example. Kids are mimics. If you watch 76 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: children for any length of time, you will learn that 77 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: they are brilliant mimics. They watch everything being done and 78 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: they copy it. That's the actually the lowest form of 79 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: learning really is just memorization. You just memorize something. It's 80 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: the most you know, and you just do it by road. 81 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: And this is really how a lot of children learn, Tricia. 82 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: They just kind of see what's going on and they 83 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: mimic it. Now, if you tell children something, they may 84 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: process this, process it a certain way, or hear it 85 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: a certain way, or what have you. Perspectives change. You 86 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: your self said that your perspective changed on the program, 87 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: And I genuinely thank you for those incredibly kind words 88 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: about how the show has changed your life. That's our 89 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: hope and our prayer for this program. But as it 90 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: pertains to your children, the perspective, their perspective is going 91 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: to be a little different. And it's hard to remember 92 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: from you know, what it was like to be twelve 93 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and all those things. So really, to live as an 94 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: example as somebody who does, who is charitable, who does give, 95 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: who does love? Who does self correct, meaning that if 96 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: you get extra change at the grocery store, you don't 97 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: go hey, their problem, not mine, that you go back 98 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: and you say, hey, you gave me too much change 99 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: or what have you. That you do things that are 100 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: broad examples of how you should be in life. And 101 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: your children will notice. They always watch. It's it's the 102 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: most hilarious thing that people think you can get away 103 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: with all kinds of things in front of ship and 104 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: because oh they're younger, they're smaller. No, they're watching everything. 105 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: They notice everything. They may speak up, they may not 106 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: speak up, but they are noticing everything. And really, to 107 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: live an example is going to be more powerful and 108 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: more potent than anything you could tell a child. So 109 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: although you want to coach them verbally and talk them 110 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: through things and answer questions, when asked and all those things. 111 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: The best example is always going to be a living, breathing, 112 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: physical example of who you are by the actions and 113 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: the things that you do. It's been said that you 114 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: can It's not what a person says that defines them. 115 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: It's not even what a person does. It's how a 116 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: person reacts to things that really defines who they are, 117 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: because the others can be kind of modified or set 118 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: up for, you know, to look or appear a certain way. 119 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: But really, when things come your way that are tuo 120 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: and you react properly, your children will see, and your 121 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: children will mimic, and your children will learn. Becky, Welcome 122 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi Hia, Becky. How can 123 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: I help you? 124 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: Well, I was just sitting here thinking that since TV 125 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: and radio, I haven't noticed many people say that they've 126 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: seen saints and angels, and I'm just wondering where they 127 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: fall in God's plan. I mean, are they around? Are 128 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: we supposed to see them? 129 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Well, sure they're around, I mean people do mention. Then 130 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: there's been an amazing amount of books written about angels 131 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: within the last couple of decades, so it's not something 132 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: that's tapering off. It's the need is different. I'll put 133 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: to you this way. There are seasons in a person's life. 134 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: So as you're a baby, you're surrounded by certain things 135 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: and certain needs. Right when you're a child, people are 136 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: changing your diapers, people are feeding you. There's all kinds 137 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: of gadgets and gizmos that go with it. There's a 138 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: pacifier this, there's your little binkie or your blanket. There's 139 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: all these this accouterment that goes with with you being 140 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: a child. Right, and then as you grow up, you 141 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: don't need those things as much. You're not using the 142 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: pacifier anymore, you're not using the diaper anymore, let's hope. 143 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: And even the way your parents interact with you is different. 144 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: They do everything for you at first, and then they 145 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: slowly back away. Right in life, Well, if you think 146 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: of the world as a child, that God interacts with 147 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: that child differently throughout their age and as they grow. 148 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: So some people say, ah, and what Christians refer to 149 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: as the Old Testament seems like God is angry all 150 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: the time. Well, if you look at a parent raising 151 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: a small child, they may be a little more aggressive 152 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: towards teaching the child right and wrong and that changes. Well, likewise, 153 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: angels have specific purpose. The simply the Greek word anglios 154 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: means literally messenger. It's just a messenger. It could even 155 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: be a human, but what you're referring to is actually 156 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: specifically a supernatural being in context. But they were messengers 157 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: or ambassadors of God used specifically to get messages out. Well, 158 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of new messages that need 159 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: to be received that scriptures are written, you can go 160 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: to them, so they don't interact in the same way 161 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: in the same sense. There are arguments that people go 162 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: back and forth whether there are guardian angels specifically for 163 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: an individual. Yet absolutely there are angels that guard or protect. 164 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: There is a whole world of spirituality of things that 165 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: are going on even during our conversation right now that 166 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: aren't seen necessarily. So sometimes people go a little overboard 167 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: and they make angels oh, and they're this, and they're that, 168 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: and there's really no scriptural basis or historical basis for it. 169 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: But really they're they're powerful and important part of Heaven 170 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and God's creation, but not always necessary for each individual 171 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: to have experience with here on earth. Is that satisfy 172 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: at least a little bit of your curiosity. You're very 173 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: very welcome. Angels are I recommend people taking the time 174 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: to to do both angelology and demonology. Study it a 175 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: little bit. There is the belief obviously that demons are 176 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: are really fallen angels, and uh so they it does 177 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: tie into one another. But to understand what the purpose 178 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: of angels, you know, like in uh, you're watching bugs 179 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: bunny or something, and and bugs bunny gets hit by 180 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: a car and the and the the translucent version of 181 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: bugs body flies out of the body and gets wings 182 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: and a harp. Well, that's not an angel. That's kind 183 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: of a you know, used to be a human now 184 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: an angel is kind of a weird theology. But angels 185 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: are specifically created by God for specific purpose. And the 186 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: more you know about them, I think that the cooler 187 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: they become. It's not just this weird mythical type creature, 188 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: but a very legitimate part of God's army, if you 189 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: will and purpose. Elena, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. 190 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: Hi Jesus. I wanted to say thank you so much 191 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: for even allowing me to come and speak to you 192 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: this morning because I have a question. 193 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: Okay, what's going on? 194 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: Well, I've met some learn that is really, really wonderful 195 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: and loves you as much as I do, and we 196 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: don't want to miss the mark. And I've been listening 197 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: to everything you've said this morning, and it's touched me 198 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: because this is exactly what I want, is not to 199 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: miss that mark. And right now in our relationship, it's 200 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: only it's very, very very new, but I want to 201 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: make sure that that we're on the right track. And 202 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 3: we have a question with respect to kissing and whether 203 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: it's you know, it's something that we should even entertain 204 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 3: at this moment. 205 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: Whether it's a gateway drug more, Yes, exactly, And. 206 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: We both have we're both coming from relationships that were 207 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: very long. I mean, I had a ten year marriage, 208 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: but there's been a divorce, you know, because of adultery 209 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 3: on his part. And it's been three years. 210 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: So you've been divorced for three years or separated for 211 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: three years. 212 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: No, divorced for three years. And I did not want 213 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: to get into any relationship because I wanted to make 214 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: sure that I was clear, that my heart was clear, 215 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: and God for guidance. So yes, and I'm very grateful 216 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: because you've had on me and I'm overjoyed. So now 217 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: someone who's come into my life that I'm amazed because 218 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 3: you know, the ex was an atheist, believe it or not, 219 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: and this person is a god fearing man who really 220 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: truly demonstrates his love for you. And we talk about 221 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: scripture and it's just so lovely. 222 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there, it can be night and day. Now what's 223 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: his story. 224 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Well, he was in an eight year relationship with the 225 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: woman that he did live with, never married, and he's 226 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: also been separated and alone for about two years. So 227 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: we both have been sort of about this. 228 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: Journey asking no kids involved. 229 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: No kids for either party. 230 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. Now, now you tell me he's god 231 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: fearing man and this isn't about judgment, just about looking 232 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: at the things on the surface so we can learn 233 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: more that's below the surface. Yet he was living with 234 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: a woman for eight years. How come he didn't get 235 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: married exactly? 236 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, what he explained to me was that he was 237 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: he wanted to and it was leading to that. But 238 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: the person that he was with was also very physical 239 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: and committed you know, several infidelity type situations. 240 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Oh, so the he was living with someone who was 241 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: having affairs. 242 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: Yes, with other people, and that opened his eyes finally, 243 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: and he said, this is not right, and so he 244 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: left that relationship. 245 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: And why did he decide to move in with her 246 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: in the first place rather than get married. 247 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: They were very young, They were I think in their 248 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: early twenties, and he was what he calls it is 249 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: very immature. Well, I don't, and I don't think he 250 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: wants to live a life in that realm either, and 251 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: I certainly don't in my question, and is I mean, 252 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: I'm even hesitant to even hold hands. But we have 253 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: done that just yesterday for the first time. 254 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: And how long have you guys been hanging out? 255 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: Only for about three weeks? It's very new, okay, And 256 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: so I just everything seems really great, and I've expressed it. 257 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: I think we should pray about, you know, how this 258 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: whole relationship should evolve and take a day by day. 259 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that is the right thing to do. 260 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: You're being very smart about that. I would take it 261 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: slower than you normally would. I would take it very 262 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: very slow. Never ever ever have the option of moving 263 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: in together, no matter what. And I've heard excuses on 264 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: top of excuses, and well, financially since that or we're 265 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: planning to do blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 266 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: blah blah. Don't run, don't walk to the near sexit 267 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: if that gets brought up, And I would take this 268 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: very slow, And that's because you're calling. He's not he's 269 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: not here to defend any ideas or things that he's 270 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: gone through. But I would say take it incredibly slow. 271 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: And it sounds about right. I think holding hands is fine. 272 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: It's it's not about being prude or any of those things. 273 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: It's about setting yourself up to learn more about the 274 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: individual before you become super emotionally attached. And you become 275 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: very super emotionally attached when you start adding physical elements 276 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: to the equation. 277 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 3: And are incredibly clear about those things. And my boundaries 278 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: are there, they're solid, good. 279 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: And so I just how's he responding to your solid 280 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: boundaries beautifully? 281 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: Okay, beautifully? Then he can continue to Yeah, very receptive, 282 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 3: and we both are very very We just want to 283 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: make sure that we do the right thing because we 284 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 3: want your blessing. If there is going to be any blessing, 285 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: we wanted to come from above, not from our own desires. 286 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Well, think of it this way. People kind of go 287 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: into relationships with the wrong kind of thought. It's very 288 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: easy to fantasize and go, Okay, well, oh this is 289 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: going to become this sooner or later, and then it's 290 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: going to become this sooner or later. But really, right now, 291 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: all you're doing is trying to get to know each 292 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: other right, and so the intimacy part, as far as physical, 293 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, kissing, was the question. As far as going 294 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: to that level, that's really that's kind of a not 295 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: even secondary but tertiary that comes really after you get 296 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: to know someone. In three weeks isn't going to do 297 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: it right. So I'm not going to give you like 298 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: a timeframe. It's not like three months, six months or 299 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: something like that, but I will say that you should 300 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: have things in your head. You say you have boundaries. 301 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: Boundaries are a way of, uh, you know, setting yourself 302 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: up to protect yourself by not letting people or anything 303 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: come in too closely before they've earned it. And this 304 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: is one of them. You set up kind of a 305 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: boundary line and say, Okay, here's the deal. I will 306 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: let him kiss me when I feel that I've learned x, y, X, 307 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Y and Z about who he is. You know, maybe 308 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: part of this process should be getting to know his friends, 309 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: family members, anything like that. Slowly seeing who he is 310 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: in context. You make sure that things he says are true. 311 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Did you meet him at church? 312 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: No? No? Do you know what was embarrassed to say? 313 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: But I'm not because it was. 314 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: A strip club? 315 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 316 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: No, Well, okay, then anything else should be fine. 317 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, no, it was it was online online dating side. 318 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 3: It was the first day we both sort of just 319 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: had signed on and we met part of on the 320 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: first date that we signed on. 321 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Okay, well, there's nothing there's nothing to be embarrassed about that, 322 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: but I will take that in consideration. Is this somebod 323 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: who lives fairly close to you. 324 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: About twenty eight miles okay for me? Okay, but we 325 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: both you know, we both are in similar situations. Actually 326 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: we both own homes. 327 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Okay. Good. 328 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: Mentally, it's not going to be like, oh, I need somebuddy. 329 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: This is somebody who he's got a job and those 330 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: types of things. How long has he been in his 331 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: job do you know? 332 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think he's been in his job for about 333 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: a year. It's in the IT department. 334 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, And has he ever been married? 335 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: No? 336 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: He's never been married. How old a guy is he now? 337 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: He's thirty seven, And that's another thing. I'm forty six. 338 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's a when you get around ten years difference. 339 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: There's a lot of pop culture, social all kinds of 340 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: things that there can be a big gap between the two. 341 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: But it's not you know, it's not an absolute no 342 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. But I would say 343 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: that I would look towards these things a little bit. 344 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: There's also a certain amount of excitement and treasure hunting 345 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: that goes on with these websites. So when you find 346 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: someone kind of it is like finding you know, treasure 347 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: at first, and so therefore everything shiny is gold and 348 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: I and that's not the case with anything. I would 349 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: say take this one incredibly slow, because you're what you're 350 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: going to find at the beginning as all the similarities. 351 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: You're just gonna start going, oh, this is what you 352 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: have in common, this is what we have in common. 353 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: A lot of it's going to be pain. Oh we 354 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: have the same pain because of X, Y and Z, 355 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: and we're both cheated on and all of these things. 356 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: And I would say take it credibly slow. I wouldn't 357 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: put kissing on the table for now. I would say 358 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: this is still part of the interview and it could 359 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: be a wonderful you know, handholding, conversational, trying to get 360 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: to know each other thing, and it'll only better you. 361 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the right people for each other 362 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: and you've got those qualities that will work well together, 363 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: I think you'll find that that the time will help 364 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: you grow even stronger. And if you aren't the right people, 365 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: you don't want to be wasting your time with somebody 366 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: and all the emotional stuff that goes with it. Frank, 367 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jesus Christ Show. 368 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, Hello, Holy host. 369 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: Well hello, My question is. 370 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: Regarding the Ten Commandments. Yes, sir, I was raised in 371 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: the Catholic Church, and we were taught to ten Commandments, 372 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 4: but we never opened the Bible. We never read any 373 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: Bible stories. And when I became a question and I 374 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 4: read where Abraham had committed adultery, job and King David 375 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: had murdered a lot of people and had many wives 376 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: and all these wrong things have been going on that 377 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 4: we well went on at that time that we have 378 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: to buy the ten Commandments nowadays. When I was a child, 379 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 4: my mother used to tell me that God will punish 380 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 4: you for doing something wrong. And now that I'm an adult, 381 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: I suffer with frostate cancer. I was wondering if that 382 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: was part of the punishment that I'm receiving for having 383 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: open the Ten Commandments. 384 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: Nope, that's part of being human. That's part of being human. 385 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: The body starts to break down at different ages and 386 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: for different reasons environmentally and the like. But if you 387 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: remember in Scripture, there's the part. And I want to 388 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: make something clear, by the way, because a lot of 389 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: people make this distinction incorrectly on the air there you 390 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: said you were raised Catholic, then you became a Christian. 391 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: You were a Christian as a Catholic, you just became 392 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: a Protestant. 393 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 4: So that's the difference, and. 394 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: People hear that and they go, what Catholics are Christians? 395 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: And so just to clarify that, however, in Scripture, you 396 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: remember there there's those that asked when the blind man 397 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: was there, They said, why is this man blind for 398 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: a sin he committed or for a sin that his 399 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: parents committed? And I said, neither. So not every physical 400 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: affliction is tied to a sin. Some can be, most certainly, 401 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: and it's tied into sin nature because they are privations. 402 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: It's the absence of something that should be there. But 403 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily tie that into And I also want 404 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: to respond to you're feeling about the Ten Commandments and 405 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: when they're written and then before them, there's all this problem. Well, 406 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: the Ten Commandments were written some fourteen hundred plus years 407 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: before my birth, but doesn't mean that before they were 408 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: written that they didn't exist. They didn't exist in that form, 409 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: but they existed unto themselves. There was never any part 410 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: in scripture where God wanted you to have other gods 411 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: before him, or have idols or anything like that, or 412 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: not appreciate your family your parents, or to not keep 413 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: the sabbath or any of these things. To murder, it 414 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: wasn't okay. The difference is that those people, even Moses, 415 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: who received the Ten Commandments, committed murder. It's not about 416 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the knowledge of these things. The Ten Commandments always existed 417 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: from the beginning of time. They existed, just as many 418 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: in the United States would say that all men being 419 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: created equal existed in the beginning. That there's no way 420 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: to separate that from from the writings and the declaration 421 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: of independence. Right, So before seventeen seventy six, does all 422 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: men being equal exist? 423 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: Yes? 424 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: So likewise, throughout scripture you can find the Ten Commandments 425 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: in one form or another, but there's a difference between 426 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: them existing and people adhering to them. People don't adhere 427 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: to them now. People still commit murder, now, don't they, 428 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: Frank Yes, okay, So it's not about whether they existed 429 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: or not. And like people running rampant and then God 430 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: going okay, now I got to tell them what to do. No, 431 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: they always knew, and people that murdered even then would 432 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: find justification as to why it wasn't murder and why 433 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: it was okay. So that's really what it comes down. 434 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: It wasn't like God was letting everybody run rampant and 435 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, at some point he said, okay, 436 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: now you know, now I'm going to have to write 437 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: down these big ten and make sure that everybody abides 438 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: by them. 439 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: Now. 440 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: Although Jewish, Anglican, Reformed, Orthodox Christians, Roman Catholics, Lutherans separate 441 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: the ten slightly differently, they're all the same as far 442 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: as meaning, and they deal with not having any gods 443 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: before the Father, don't create idols, don't take the Lord's 444 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: name in vain. Honor your father and mother, remember the Sabbath. 445 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Don't murder, don't commit adultery, don't steal, don't bear false 446 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: witness against your neighbor, don't lie, don't covert your neighbor, 447 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: don't covet anything else that your neighbor has, don't covert 448 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: your neighbor's wife. That all those principles are in Scripture 449 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: in somewhere, other places other than just Exodus and Deuteronomy. 450 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: They exist in other places as well, and you keep 451 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: in mind just because people didn't follow them doesn't mean 452 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: they didn't exist. Thank you so much for taking the 453 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: time to join me today, and remember, more importantly, in 454 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: all this craziness, I am with you always KF I 455 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: am six forty on demand