1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from our Relliot Avenue studios of 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. This is Sounders 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Weekly with your host Jackson Felts. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: Good Ding and everybody. Welcome into Sounders Weekly. Jackson Feltz 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: here good be with you on this Wednesday night. Here 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: for the next hour talking Sounders Soccer. Rain Weekly will 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: come up right after this at eight pm talking about 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: the Rain entering the NWSL playoffs with kee Lee Dunning. 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: But here for the next hour, we're talking about the 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: Sounders first playoff game, Game one of this best of 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: three first round of the MLS Cup Playoffs. It was 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: a loss. It was a loss in heartbreaking fashion in 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: penalty kicks in a game in Minnesota at a Leons 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: field where we saw ninety minutes of pretty good soccer 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: and I thought we did well to keep Minnesota down 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: on their offensive end on our defensive end, but just 17 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: not enough on the offensive end for c We just 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: couldn't put together that final ball in the back of 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: the net. And we'll get into a lot of that 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: and listen, there's a number of things regarding the penalty 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: shootout problems with that, and now we look ahead to 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: a game two, where it is essentially and very very simply, 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: you either win or your season is over, because Minnesota 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: takes Game one in penalty kicks zero zero after ninety minutes, 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: and then they win in penalties three to two misses 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: of course in penalties by Al strolled on, I mean, 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: I guess we'll just get into it really quickly. I'll 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: promote what's coming up Jamie Watson, who called the match 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: for FS one. He's of course an MLS broadcaster, He's 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: been on with us many many times. Jamie will join 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: us in just a few minutes to break down what 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: we saw in the penalty kick shootout loss and look 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: ahead to game two. Ari Lillianwall will of course join us. 34 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: He will talk about this and lots of other MLS 35 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: playoff results that we saw here in this first game 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: of the first round series around the league. And then 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: I believe we are going to also we may have 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: a player call in for our final segment tonight. If 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: we don't end up getting that, we're just gonna play 40 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: some of the postgame press conference from Jackson Reagan and 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: Albert Rusnak. So that's the roadmap here for the next hour. 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: Jamie Watson coming up in a few minutes. Let's just 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: jump in because there's a lot of points to be 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: frustrated about. And we were on the postgame show, myself 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: and Chance Fry, and right after the final whistle. The 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: first place my mind, night Night, not final whistle, after 47 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: the final penalty did not go in from Danny Lava. 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: The first place my mind was Zad was not the 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: poor penalty shootout. It was Danny Mazowski because listen, there 50 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: were a lot of moments in that game, from a 51 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: ninth minute chance for herlong wan A for Minnesota who 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: breaks away one v one and you know, missus wide 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: left thanks to a little bit of a push from 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 2: Jackson Reagan. I think he got away with one right there. 55 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: If I'm being honest, I think that's a penalty. But 56 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: thank goodness, VR did not look at the push from 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: Jackson Reagan because it went wide left. No goal you 58 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: can lead to that, And there was more communication breakdown 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: there in the ten minutes after that, And really, Minnesota 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: had such great opportunities, but Seattle had their opportunities as well. 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: There was a great Paul Rothrock chance in the first 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: half that went that went too high. You really, really 63 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: good kind of interplay between the midfield. There. There was 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: a series in a fifty fourth minute where a corner 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: comes in Paul Rothrock is called for a foul for 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: pulling down Michael Boxall. He did not pull down Michael Boxhall. 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Michael Boxall just fell down. What happened afterwards was a 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: handball cleared off the line from Minnesota. That should have 69 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: been a penalty for Seattle, but they called a foul 70 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: on Paul Rothrock that wasn't. So there's kind of things 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: you can look at from this game where I can 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: kind of point to a few things and say, probably, 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, after ninety minutes a fair result could have 74 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: been one to one if it weren't for what happened 75 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: in the final five minutes. Because credit to Brian Schpenzer, 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I did think he made some good subs, and one 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: of those subs he made was bringing on Danny Mazowski 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: for Haesus Freira. You shift Jordan Morris out to the right, 79 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 2: and for the final twenty minutes of that game where 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: Moose's up top and Jordan's on the right, stuff was working. 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: It was really working there with that connection from Jordan 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: on the right. They played Jordan down the right side. 83 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 2: What about four times at every single time Jamo got 84 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: behind their back line. It was working and they kept 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: doing it, and Jordan created a couple very very good chances. 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: And most notably so there was obviously the eightieth minute 87 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: as well, the tap in that was saved really well 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: saved by Dane Saint Clair. But the thing that coping 89 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: back to my comments where one one would have been 90 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 2: a fair result if weren't for Danny Mazovski's chance. The 91 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: ninety first minute, we are at the death in this match. 92 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: Jordan sends in a phenomenal cross to Mazovsky's head. It's 93 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: right in front of goal. Saint Clair is beat and 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Mazosky heads it high above the bar. And if you 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: just head that ball down, it doesn't matter if you 96 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: head it down straight, if you head it down to 97 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: the right, if you head it down to the left, 98 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: that ball has a pretty darn high percentage chance of 99 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: going in the back of the net. But Mazoski heads 100 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: it up and it goes above the bar and it 101 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: ends zero zero after ninety forcing us to penalties. And man, 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: what a chance that was. So that was where my 103 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: head was at right after the game and right after 104 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: the penalty kicks shootout is my god, you just can't 105 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: miss that chance in the ninety first Moose, I mean, 106 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: my gosh, for sixteen goals this year and a guy 107 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: who's been so good in the Rave Green he that's 108 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: one moment that I'm just I was angry and I'm 109 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: still angry about that. But then I did take my 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 2: time in this morning. I went back and I watched 111 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: the penalty kick shootout and I really am frustrated by 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: the penalty kick shootout. And Dane Saint Clair, credit to him, 113 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: he did a very very good job. But Alex chuldan 114 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: really poor take right down the middle and it's not 115 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 2: even a well taken down the middle, and Saint Clair 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: just stands there and blocks it. That's really frustrating. And 117 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: then Leiva and Christian as well, those are frustrating too. 118 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 2: Not a good shootout from the Sounders. And you know 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: what's surprising about it was this is a team who 120 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: has been good shootouts recently. You think back to the 121 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 2: Houston series last year, right, So it's it's frustrating that 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: this does end up with a Sounder penalty kick shootout loss. 123 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: Because there were various moments in this match where you 124 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: could have I think gotten a better result. You could 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: have gone through after this first game with a win, 126 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: but it is a loss and now we're facing elimination. 127 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: Is either you win next Monday or the season is 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: over really quick, as I see Jamie Watson on hold, 129 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: let me quickly give you broadcast details. Next Monday, Loominfield 130 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: Game two, seven fifty five kickoff at Lumen's seven fifty 131 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: five kickoff, Providence, Swedish Premat show will start at seven thirty. 132 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: You can only hear that match on the Sounders FC 133 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: Radio stream channel on iHeartRadio. So whether you have the 134 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app or you listen via the internet on iHeartRadio 135 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: dot com, look up Sounders FC Radio and that will 136 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: pull up a stream channel and that stream channel is 137 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: where you'll be able to hear next Monday's match seven 138 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: thirty premat show. For that folks. You can also watch 139 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: the match MLS Season Pass on the Apple TV app 140 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: and listen in Spanish language on l Ray thirteen sixty. 141 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: Game two win or the season is over for the 142 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Seattle Sounders. We'll be talking about that a lot tonight 143 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 2: and how we think that Game two will go joining 144 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: us right now. Hauled the match for FS one. It 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: is our good friend Jamie Watson. Jamie, there's a lot 146 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: to talk about with this game, buddy. How are you? 147 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: Jack? And I'm great man, always always love getting to 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: talk to you. You're one of the most elite minds. 149 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: You see the game very similarly to myself. Although somehow 150 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: in a back end of way, I just called myself 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: an elite mind. I didn't mean to do that when 152 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: I started a Senate. Basically, what I need to say, 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: I love talking chop with you because you know yourself 154 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: and it's always a great conversation with you. Brother. 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 2: I love you, buddy, Thank you so much. The check 156 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: is in the mail, all right. But I would love 157 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: to talk to you about a really fun soccer game 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: and a sounder win and all the great things and 159 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 2: YadA YadA. But we have to talk about that on 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Monday night. Oh boy, that thing in the loss and 161 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: penalty kicks in Minnesota, the way they play, I imagine 162 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: it wasn't the most pleasant call for FS one. But 163 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: what were your thoughts on the game? 164 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh, Heatteron and I we had a pleasure to 165 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: getting called for Fox Sports one man. We did not 166 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: anticipate it being a match that was so played in 167 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: the middle of the park, so stop start so disjointed. 168 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: There was a big opportunity for Minnesota in the first 169 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: three minutes of the match, and I want to get 170 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: your thoughts on this as a Seattle fan, because I'm 171 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 3: very interested to hear your thoughts on it. We were 172 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: hoping that was going to be a sign of things 173 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: to come to action end to end, but it really 174 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: took Seattle about twenty to twenty two minutes to kind 175 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: of figure out how to really get a quality opportunity 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 3: on Minnesota. And that's exactly what Eric Ramsey in Minnesota 177 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 3: United wanted. They wanted to make life difficult, and they did, 178 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: and they made it as ugly as possible. And ultimately, 179 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: as we look at it today, who's up one zero 180 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: in the series, it's Minnesota United. And nobody asked how, 181 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: They just asked who. 182 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: Well and also who didn't execute. And that was kind 183 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 2: of where I spent the first few minutes of the 184 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 2: show tonight in that exact topic. And you know, right 185 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: after the game ended, my first mindset Jamie was to 186 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: be very angry about Danny Mazowski not executing, and then 187 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: over the last number of hours, my brain has shifted 188 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: into being mad at the penalty kicks and you know, 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: the poor execution from Alc Trodan, Christian Roldan and Danny 190 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: Leva and additionally now even just in the last few minutes, 191 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: now I'm questioning was Danny Leva the right substitute when 192 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: he hasn't played at all and then he comes onto 193 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: the field, you know, having to just you know, be 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: in such a massive moment. And frankly, Minnesota did the 195 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: same thing. And I believe Gressel subbed on and Gresseel 196 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: missed his penalty too. So you know, your question of 197 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: who it's a great it's a great one because for me, 198 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: there's so many different guys I can point to right now, 199 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: and it's just leading to this mass frustration as a 200 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Sounder fan. 201 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: Well, and I think when the head hit the pillow 202 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: for Brian Smetter and for air Cramsey, the respective head coaches, 203 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: I guarantee you neither one of them were happy with 204 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: how the game went. One coach is happiers then the other 205 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: because their team is up one zero, and that's Minnesota United. 206 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: Eric Ramsey but having said that, that was a match 207 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: in which it desperately needed a goal to change the 208 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: game one way or another, and we never got it. 209 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: And so it simply came down to two teams that 210 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: neither one of them executed, and you have to execute 211 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: in the playoffs to be able to change the game 212 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: with the timeliness of a goal. It never came you right, 213 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: great substitution to bring on Missofsky. He got into the position, 214 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 3: but he didn't score. And he's had a great season 215 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: fourteen goals in the regular season. I think it's probably 216 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: been an overestimation of what anybody expected from Missovski. So 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: you have to, on one hand say it's been great, 218 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: but this was not the time that you needed him 219 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: to miss those opportunities. You needed him to take those opportunities, 220 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: and ultimately time ran out and when it went to penalties. Look, 221 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: we know how good Danes think Claire is. But there 222 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 3: was also this element of last year Seattle did the 223 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 3: same exact thing that Minnesota did. They won two games 224 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 3: in the first beest of three series against Houston and 225 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 3: they were able to get through. So you felt like 226 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: there was an element of we've been here before. But 227 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: man again, it came down to execution, and shockingly I 228 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: would have never guessed both rodn brothers were gonna miss 229 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: and Danny Lava. I don't mind the substitution bringing in 230 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: because he's shown something in training that makes Schmetzer think 231 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: this guy can get it done from twelve yards out, 232 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: whether he's played ninety minutes or he didn't touch the 233 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 3: ball prior to kicking a penalty kick, because it's the 234 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: same thing Julian Pressel did, as you alluded to, But 235 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: don't have a problem with that. I did find it 236 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: interesting to see just how many Seattle Sounder fans online 237 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: were saying and have been Andrew Thomas in goal for 238 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 3: the penalty game. 239 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, like you know, that's I. 240 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: Don't think so. 241 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't don't. 242 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: I'll get out in front of, say first while while. 243 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: You're figuring out with you, but go ahead. 244 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think. I think it's very different for 245 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: a player. It's one kick, you're twelve yards out. You're 246 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 3: in a position where I think it's something statistical like 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: seven or eight times out of ten you should score 248 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: somewhere right in there from the penley spot for the 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: goalkeeper I feel like it's much harder to get in 250 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: and make the saves, especially if you're cold. And I 251 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: think you know, unless you've got Nick Romondo's sitting on 252 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: the bench, who's the greatest penalty shot sopper a Emilia 253 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: in Major League Soccer history. And no slide on Andrew Thomas. 254 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: I just think you trust the goalkeeper Stephan Bryor, who's 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: been there for over four hundred times in league play 256 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 3: and has one MLS Cup with you and stuff. He's 257 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: earned that right to be in there to trust him. 258 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: And I would have been so shocked if there would 259 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: have been a sub to bring up Stephan Fry. I 260 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: wasn't shocked for the subgarine on extra shooters. It just 261 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: came down to a night with to say, Sattle Thunders 262 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 3: had their opportunities to take the advantage on the road 263 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: and they didn't take the opportunity. 264 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: So Jamie Watson's our guest, and Jamie, I fully agree 265 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: with you what you're saying there, and I just a 266 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: lot of people are saying Andrew Thomas, and I would 267 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: also remind people that Stephan Fry was the goalkeeper for 268 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: that penalty kicks shoot out win in both first and 269 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: second games in Houston and at home agames Houston last year. 270 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: So Fry did win those shootouts last year, just a 271 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: year ago. Andrew's good, But I don't think you make 272 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: a goalkeeper substitution at the death for all of the 273 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: reasons you just pointed out. You're absolutely right on that. 274 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: You know, Jamie, the one change as we kind of 275 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: look ahead to game two that I would absolutely considering. 276 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: You pointed out the same thing that I pointed out 277 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: a few minutes ago, And that's the success of what 278 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: happened when Danny Muzovski's on the field and Jordan's on 279 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: the right and for the last twenty minutes of that game. 280 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: After that, after that substitution, stuff is working well offensively 281 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: for Seattle on that right side. And if I'm Brian Schenzer, 282 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: I consider making that change for game two and starting 283 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: Jordan and Mazowski together and letting them try to find 284 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: that magic again. 285 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't have any any problems with that. So 286 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: let's piece thiss in together. If we're gonna put ourselves 287 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: in the mind of Brian Smetzer, let's do it together. Okay. 288 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: So they went out in a four to two three 289 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: one last night, the backboard has been picking itself. The 290 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: two in the middle rolled on Vargas that's picked itself 291 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: as well. And then across the three you had on 292 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: the right is this Fredeta. You had Albert rus Knock 293 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: at the number ten, ye old Paul Rothrock on the left, 294 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: and then you put Morris up top. So for the 295 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: sake of the argument, we're gonna bring in Danny Mssovski 296 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: from up upfront and we're gonna start him there. So 297 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: are we going with more of a four four to two? 298 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: And if that's the case, are you you know, are 299 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: you gonna go with or I guess you could say 300 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: a three five two, which you may be being to 301 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: go to a three five two and use some wingers 302 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: to be able to maybe combat the fact that Minnesota 303 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: United really only put one forward Soong Wani by himself 304 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: off top on an island, and you might think there's 305 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: even more of an island and even deeper of parking 306 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: the buck type situation that could be ahead on the road. 307 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: So you got to figure it out. Let's say, what 308 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: would you prefer? Would you prefer to see a three 309 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: five two or four four to two? If we're gonna 310 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 3: go to two up top. 311 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: What I would prefer is the four four two, and 312 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: I think you put Christian rolled down out on the right. 313 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 2: You put Jordan and Danny together, and you can have 314 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Christian tuck in for his brother when when when in 315 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: Alex advances you have o Bed. I mean, the question 316 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: is who goes out. 317 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 3: On the on the left? Yeah? Right? 318 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: Because honestly, you know, after seeing I love Paul Rothrock, 319 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: and I hate to say any bad word about Paul Rothrock, 320 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: but if there's an odd man out, I want to 321 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: keep Albert on the field. I want to keep Obed 322 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: on the field. I want to keep Christian on the field, 323 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 2: and I want to keep Frera on the field. And 324 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: I think that that Rothrock is the odd man out. 325 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: And then at that point you just build that group 326 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: of Albert Hayesus and Christian and Obed and Jordan and Danny, 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: and you have that group and you make sure that 328 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: you fit them in the spots applicable and let them 329 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: have freedom to cook. 330 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you just cooked on that answer. How am 331 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: I supposed to come in after that? Because everything you 332 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: said is exactly how I would feel about that situation. 333 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: I think that's exactly how you would roll that out. 334 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 3: I would make the same decision as you. I would 335 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 3: trust the fact that this is nothing against the season 336 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 3: that Paul Rothrock has had because he has been a 337 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 3: consistent threat. I do think you give Ferrera this start 338 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: because this simple fact Paul Rothrock off the bench would 339 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: be far more impactful in the game of the final 340 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: fifteen twenty twenty five minutes. Then I believe Hejes Furdeda 341 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: would be if you started Rothrock and brought on no 342 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 3: fault of Rothrock's own. I think that he has the 343 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: ability to change the game in a condensed period of time. 344 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: And I think you give Brera the consistency of the 345 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 3: start and the option to be able to hopefully impact, 346 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: and you play narrow. I think that in that hits 347 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: that system. That's easy for me to say, you get 348 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: those wingers in to be able to allow Newho to 349 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: overlap on one back because they're going to be able 350 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 3: to go Alex hold On on the right side, and 351 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 3: you over crowd the numbers because when Seattle we're able 352 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 3: to get into those half spaces either side of will 353 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: Trap or Triantis. There was some space the combination play 354 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: they had where there's a little vacual and Rothrock had 355 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: the curling effort about twenty five minutes into the first 356 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: half that was like, oh, this is how we do it. 357 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: Even think about the first five minutes when Jordan Morris 358 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: was able to go on a little slip pass from Preira. 359 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 3: You know, he just wasn't able to execut as in 360 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: near post. But there were glimpses to that. And you 361 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: need more players in the final third to get on 362 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: the end of the well worked crosses, and you need 363 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: to be able to give those freedom for a higher 364 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 3: starting position from the two in the midfield. I personally 365 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: love what you're saying. I'm picking up what you're putting down. 366 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 3: But again, neither you or I is the longest tenured 367 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: and the currently most successful coach in the major leagues 368 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 3: LC Gracy. I'll give brucerin and flowers out at dan Oda, 369 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: but we know what I'm talking about. With Roden Schmetzer, 370 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: He's figured out more often than not to have the 371 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: faith and I believe that Seattle at home. I do 372 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: think that they should be the heavy favorites and they 373 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: need to get the job done. They just have to 374 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: execute it. But I think that extra player up top 375 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: could cause Minnesota United more problems than what we saw 376 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: last night. 377 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: Game one. We'll see what Brian does in this chess 378 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 2: match against Eric Ramsey. Jamie, let's wrap it up with this, 379 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: and I have a very very simple question to wrap 380 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: this up. Considering that we're looking at showers and high forties, 381 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Considering as you mentioned, and I agree, Minnesota is going 382 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: to park the bus like no team has ever parked 383 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: the bus before and play a defensive brand of soccer, 384 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: maybe even more defensive than they normally do. Considering all 385 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: of this, how ugly of a game are we in 386 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: store for on Monday. 387 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: Depends quick answer. It depends on the fact that if 388 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 3: Seattle get an early goal in Minnesota cannot Minnesota United 389 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: cannot sit in, then that changes everything. The longer the 390 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: game goes zero zero on Monday night, the better that 391 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: is for Minnesota United. The more pressure that is on Seattle, 392 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 3: more that plays into the visitors hands. The first goal, 393 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: just like any other game, but especially this game, is 394 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: so so, so so important. Sattle need to come out 395 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 3: flying from the get go and get that early goal. There. 396 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: It is the expertise of Jamie Watson. I love having 397 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: you on every single time you do Sounders matches. Man, 398 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: there's a pleasure to have you on the broadcast there 399 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 2: on FS one. Thank you for spending some time with 400 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: us today and hopefully we're talking about the game three 401 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: here in a couple of weeks. 402 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 3: Always great to be on with you. A big fan 403 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: of the show, Big Kenny, you Jackson, and thank you 404 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: for having me on. Man. 405 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: Great stuff there from Jamie Watson. Love having him on 406 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: the show. All Right, we'll get a break and talk 407 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: to Ari Lillian Wall about Game one, Game two ahead, 408 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: and the rest of the MLS Cup playoffs around the 409 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 2: entire league. Ari Lillian Wall is next on Sounders Weekly 410 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. 411 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: Now back to Sounders Weekly on your home for sunders FC, 412 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Seattle's Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 413 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: Welcome back Sounders Weekly, Jackson Felts, good to be with 414 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: you here tonight on this Wednesday night. Thanks to Jamie 415 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 2: Watson for spending a few minutes there to kick off 416 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: tonight's show. Of course, it is not a happy show, 417 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: as the Sounders fell in Game one in the first 418 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: best of three round in penalty kicks at Minnesota Game 419 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: two ahead next Monday night at lumin Field. We'll continue 420 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: talking both of those games and we'll talk about the 421 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: rest of the MLS Cup playoffs with our good friend. 422 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: He is a writer and editor with MLS Soccer dot Com. 423 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: He also hosts the podcast Lobbing Scorches. Get Lobbing Scorches 424 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app and wherever your podcast. You can 425 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 2: also watch Lobbing Scorches on the Lobbing Scorches YouTube. Subscribe 426 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: to it and you'll be notified when they go live 427 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: on Monday mornings and Thursday nights. The man in charge 428 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: of it all, Ari Lillianwalla joins us here again. Ari. 429 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy? 430 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm good, Jackson. 431 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: How are you not great? 432 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 3: Ari? 433 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 2: Kind of pissed off. Let's just start with your impressions. 434 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: I'm of two minds, hating the shootout and hating the 435 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: miss chances, so I'm all bad news today, Buddy. What 436 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: do you think about the game? 437 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 4: I mean it's frustrating obviously. You know you already lost 438 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: to Minnesota United twice this year, and you get the 439 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 4: queen sheet in this game on the road and losing 440 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 4: the shootout, So I mean, I don't know it's tough 441 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: because I feel like this is one of the trickier 442 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: teams in MLS to play against. With the tactics they employed. 443 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 4: They were playing full out Ramsey ball in this game 444 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: like you would expect. So it's a situation where you 445 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 4: feel like you kind of know what's coming, but it is. 446 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: It is tough to deal with, and it just feels 447 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: like I feel like Seattle is close to cracking the 448 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: code with this team, but they have not quite cracked it, 449 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: even with the chances they did have in this game. 450 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 4: So we'll see if they can in the in game two, 451 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: if they can get the result, they need to go 452 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 4: back and try it again. But that was not a 453 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 4: fun or enjoyable viewing the experience. I don't think well, Arion. 454 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: This is why a month ago when I asked you 455 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 2: of the four teams you know that were the top 456 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 2: four seeds in the West, who you want to face, 457 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: and you said Minnesota. Shane O'Neil said Minnesota. A couple 458 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: other people said Minnesota, and I pushed back on every 459 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: single one of you and I said, this is the 460 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: type of game we're gonna play, and a good defensive 461 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: team I don't want to face that, and I mean, 462 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: I hate to say I told everybody so, but like, man, 463 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: this is the annoyance of Minnesota. This is why I 464 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: was really afraid of facing this team. 465 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah no, I mean I might not have lent enough 466 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 4: credence to how difficult it truly is to play against 467 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 4: this team with their novel tactics. I still think it's 468 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: a matchup that, in theory, should be a better one 469 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: than a team like LAFC or Vancouver. Who you know, 470 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: you saw what Vancouver did to f CE Dallas. You're 471 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 4: not playing Minnesota. You're gonna have to deal with a 472 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: team like that, and that could be even more of 473 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: a trickier proposition. I don't think you get a shutout 474 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: against a team like that like you did against Minnesota. 475 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, it's the playoffs. Any team 476 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 4: that you're gonna play is gonna be good, They're gonna 477 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: be tough. But this team, it just feels like they're 478 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 4: kind of Seattle's foil this year. And they have a 479 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: chance to change that narrative luckily, but that's it's hard 480 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 4: to come out of that game and not kind of 481 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 4: feel like that exactly. 482 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: And as we kind of look to Game two next 483 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: Monday night at Lumen Field. I mean, I see right 484 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: now a forecast of rain and this should be it was. 485 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: It says cloudy early and showers late, and I just 486 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: view that as gonna be a Monday night game where 487 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: it's rainy, it's nasty, and probably already crack. You know, 488 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: you can you can maybe differ on this. A Minnesota 489 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: team that's gonna park the bus more than a bus 490 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 2: has ever gotten parked in soccer history. 491 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: I mean absolutely, that's what they do pretty much every game, 492 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 4: regardless of they're home on the road, but on the 493 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 4: road they definitely are going to uh to do that. 494 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 4: It's it's interesting it is parking the bus, but it's 495 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 4: also uh it's it's like a more exaggerated version of 496 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: these anti possessions playing against the ball tactics. Then you 497 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: even see teams, teams, they are teams in MLS that 498 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: play like that, but they just have such an extreme 499 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 4: version of it. So, I mean it's in this situation, 500 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: the onus is on Seattle to get a goal that 501 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: brings them out of that a little bit. If you 502 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 4: can get an early goal, they cannot play like that 503 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: as much. Then they have to chase the game. The 504 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 4: problem in this game was that they were not able 505 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: to get that goal and that kind of played into 506 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: how Minnesota wanted the game to go and they and 507 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: how they wanted to play. I would argue, as the 508 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 4: home team in a playoff game, you should not play 509 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 4: like that, but that's what they do and it works. 510 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: So you can't really not get it if it works, 511 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: and they are going to try and have to do 512 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 4: it again. So Seattle is going to have to make 513 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 4: the requisite changes to score on this team, which they 514 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: hadn't been able to do the last two times they played. 515 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It's frustrating and Brian Spencer is going to 516 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: have to figure out something. And you know, I posited 517 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: it on the post game show. Do you start Danny 518 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 2: Mazowski and Jordan Morris both together and take Paul Rothrock 519 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: off the field and you know, figure out your midfield 520 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: from there and the group of Albert and Hayesus and 521 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: Christian and Obed and just figure out who goes where. 522 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 2: But absolutely need Jordan and Danny together because that was 523 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: the one thing that was really working for the final 524 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: twenty minutes was when when Jordan was on the right 525 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: and Danny was up top and Dan and he just 526 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: couldn't capitalize on his chances. We'll see what Brian does. 527 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's definitely gonna be. I think 528 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: an ugly soccer game next Monday, and an early goal 529 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 2: would make it less ugly in forced Minnesota open up 530 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: a little bit. But that is an enormous task scoring 531 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: on a very very good defensive Minnesota team. Ariy Lellenwall 532 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: is our guest. He's a writer and editor for MLS 533 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 2: Soccer dot com. He hosts the podcast Lobbing Scorchers. Get 534 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: it on the iHeartRadio app and wherever you get your 535 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: podcasts and on the Lobbing Scorchers YouTube. Are you mentioned 536 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: Vancouver FC Dallas. That was an ass kicking. You take 537 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: us into that series and just how much Vancouver is 538 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: is right now in prime position to move through. 539 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean FC Dallas just looked overmatched in that game, 540 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: which I think is pretty much what everyone expected going 541 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 4: into that series. But that is how it played out. 542 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 4: And I mean my takeaway is just that that Vancouver team, 543 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 4: they've been dubbed MLS Cup favorites or at least some 544 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: the front runners, but They're a team that hasn't really 545 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: had that status before, so they had to go out 546 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: and kind of validate that they should have that status. 547 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what they did. They put it on 548 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: FC Dallas, and really, I think Thomas Mueller has really 549 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: you have to say, he's elevated that team quite substantially. 550 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: They were already one of the better teams in the league, 551 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: and it feels like he's vaulted them into They're in 552 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 4: that tier where when you're talking about the teams that 553 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: should be favored to make a run of this thing, 554 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: they are in that. Like, I think you can officially 555 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 4: say that after they came out and took care of 556 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 4: business against FC Dallas, that series feels pretty much over. 557 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: You know, you still have Game two, but even if 558 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 4: FC Dallas finds a way to get a penalty kick 559 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: victory or whatever it is in game two, it's hard 560 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 4: to see them going back to DC Place and getting 561 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: a win. 562 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really hard to see that. And now 563 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: let's look at the other team here in Cascadi, the 564 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: Portland Timbers. They won their wild card game. We were joking, 565 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 2: you know, last week's show, which was ten minutes before that, 566 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: wild card game kicked off. That could easily crash out 567 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: in the wild card round. Again, they didn't. They did 568 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: get through, but then San Diego beats them two to one, 569 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: and Portland in that game suffers a red card. I 570 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: don't know the full details on that, but it's a 571 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: Porland team right now that you know, on the opposite 572 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 2: side of Vancouver. They're looking going into game two right now, 573 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: sort of like the Sounders win or else your season's over. 574 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looked like their game against San Diego was 575 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: going to go fully off the rails. They went down 576 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: to zero in the first half, but to be fair, 577 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: they did bring it back and they got a goal 578 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 4: that made it to one, and then they get a 579 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: red card. That is just like you're actually in the 580 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 4: game at that point. It's not like the game was 581 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: out of hand. They had a chance to come back 582 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 4: and tie that game and send it to penalties or 583 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 4: maybe even win it, and they just get one of 584 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: the more ill advised red cards that you will ever see. 585 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 4: And playing with ten men, I actually I thought they 586 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 4: looked too better at times than they did when they 587 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: had all eleven they had. There's a couple moments where 588 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: they almost tied that game, even down a man, So 589 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: they did show a little bit of moxie in making 590 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 4: that a game even though they had to play that 591 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: long down a man. But like in reality, there's a 592 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: very big disparity between the firepower and I guess just 593 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: the overall quality between them and San Diego, who were 594 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: playing without Choky Bizano by the way. Yeah, so yeah, no, 595 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 4: it's not it's not looking good for the for the Timbers, 596 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 4: they are fully on the ropes right now, even though, 597 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: like I think, there was some good stuff for them 598 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 4: in that game, even though they lost it. 599 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: Ari I asked you last week what playoff series you 600 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: were most looking forward to, and you mentioned the Hell 601 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: is Real Derby between Columbus and Cincinnati, and you always 602 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: love rivalry series. In the first round of these playoffs 603 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: where it is a best of three and you got 604 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Cincinnati with a late goal to beat Columbus one nothing, 605 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: you said you were looking forward to it, and boy, 606 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: that first game lived up to it, very very tight 607 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: until the end. 608 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a pretty exciting game. There wasn't as 609 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 4: end to end with as many chances as I was hoping, 610 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 4: but you know, it can. 611 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: Get kg like that. In the playoffs. 612 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 4: These close, competitive one zero type games do happen a lot, 613 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: so this was one of those. And it was a 614 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: derby matchup, like you said, so there's always those storylines. 615 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: And then Kevin Dinky gets the goal for Cincinnati. But 616 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 4: I was not really fully convinced that FC Cincinnati made 617 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 4: a statement that they're among the favorites in the same 618 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 4: way that Vancouver did. That Columbus team honestly has not 619 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: been good for a while. I know we are used 620 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: to thinking of them as a front runner, but they 621 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: really have struggled down the stretch of the season, and 622 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 4: I expected Cincinnati to maybe take care of business a 623 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: little bit more than they ended up doing. So that 624 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: was kind of my takeaway from that. It was an 625 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: exciting game, but I didn't think that FC Cincinnati necessarily 626 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: showed what I expected they might. 627 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: What about Philadelphia, they only went through on penalties. Also, 628 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: same case, didn't show you the statement you wanted to see. 629 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean I've been saying that I 630 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: felt like the Chicago Fire had a better chance in 631 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: that series, and people might think just because they actually 632 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 4: you know, they're playing in a tough Eastern Conference and 633 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 4: they're probably better than your typical wildcard team, at least 634 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: the form that they had been in at the end 635 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 4: of the season going into the playoffs. So I wasn't 636 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 4: necessarily surprised that they gave Philly a run for their money. 637 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: But I still think Chicago can win that series. They 638 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: showed to themselves and everyone else that they can play 639 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: with that Philly team. And I also think that Philly 640 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 4: team might not be as good as your typical supporter 641 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: Shield winner, like I think the teams that were used 642 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: to winning the Shield would would not. I don't think 643 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: be pushed to the limit as much by a Chicago 644 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: team that is good, but they're not a great team 645 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 4: that you would expect Philly to have that much trouble with. 646 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the exact analysis there is sort 647 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: of I also kind of read that as a question 648 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: mark for Philly. But Chicago, I mean, they just got 649 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: by Orlando in the wildcard game easy, and what an 650 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 2: upset that would be. Sort of alah, you know Miami 651 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: Atlanta last season in the first round of Miami who 652 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: did make a big statement three to one are before 653 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: we end tonight, speaking on my Lionel Messi did an 654 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: interview I believe it was on a news show, was 655 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: on NBC or something like that, I don't know anyway, 656 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: So Messi does this interview with an American news outlet, 657 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: which he rarely does, and they were asking him him 658 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: about how MLS can improve and how MLS can take 659 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 2: the next step. And I want to read you this 660 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 2: quote and we'll kind of in for everybody out there, 661 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: read the quote and we'll kind of talk about what 662 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: it could mean for the future this league. Seeing as 663 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: how much power Messi has. He says, well, for starters, 664 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: every team should have the opportunity to bring in players 665 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: and sign whoever each team wants without limitation or rules 666 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: for players to bring them in. I don't think that 667 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: today all the teams in the United States, all the clubs, 668 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: have the power to do that. And I think that 669 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: if they were given the freedom, many more important players 670 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: would come and help the growth of the United States. 671 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: And we know the power Messi has with Papa garber Ari, 672 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: and I'm wondering if he can get in Don's ear 673 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: and make actual change on the roster rules. 674 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if there's one person on the planet 675 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: Earth who they might actually give credence to saying that, 676 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 4: it would be Lionel Messi. A lot of what their 677 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 4: job has been has been to specifically keep him happy. 678 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 4: So if he's coming out there and he's saying it, 679 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 4: maybe we will see some movement on that front. I 680 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: think we all want to see the league get to 681 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 4: a place where teams have more freedom to spend the 682 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 4: money they want to bring in higher quality players and 683 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 4: move the league forward in that way. At the same time, 684 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 4: like I do, there is logic behind why they've put 685 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: an emphasis on parody in on like what's still a 686 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 4: relatively young league. It's only been around for the last 687 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 4: thirty years or so, so there are there are valid 688 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 4: reasons why ownership of these teams want there to be 689 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: a system that perpetuates parody. 690 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 3: In the league. 691 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 4: And I get that, But I do think that to 692 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 4: move the league forward ultimately in the way that we 693 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 4: all want, they're going to have to loosen the restrictions 694 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 4: like Messi is talking about, And I, you know, I 695 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 4: don't think it's the type of thing where they're going 696 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 4: to do it all at once. I think it's going 697 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 4: to be a more gradual shift, and hopefully they've already 698 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 4: been working working towards that, but maybe the sex, but 699 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 4: that would be that would be cool. I think it 700 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 4: is something that as fans of the league, we all 701 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 4: want to see because you know, I've never liked the 702 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 4: idea that unambitious owners who just don't want to spend 703 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 4: get rewarded for that and have a system that encourages that. 704 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: So whatever we can do to get away from that, 705 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 4: I'm I'm fully in favor of it. So I like 706 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: that Messi's talking about it. 707 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 2: Sure, the reality, for my opinion is that Montreal should 708 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 2: not have any chance to win if they don't spend 709 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 2: any money, which they haven't spent money in years, And 710 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: it's sort of like, all right, well, if you're not 711 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 2: going to invest and you're not going to spend money, 712 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: you don't deserve to have a chance. And you know, 713 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 2: I like the idea of of of exactly what you're 714 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: saying there. I guess I'm wondering as we wrap tonight, 715 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 2: you know what is the first step in that? Is 716 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: it getting rid of the dp GAM TAM model and 717 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: just going to one flat salary cap? Is that kind 718 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: of I mean to mimic the NFL in that sense, 719 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 2: is that the obvious first easy step, or is maybe 720 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: is it kind of smaller steps first to just maybe 721 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: eliminate DPS or eliminate one of those various weird mechanisms first, 722 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 2: or can you do it all at once? 723 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: I don't think you can do it all at once, 724 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: and I don't think they would try and do it 725 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: all at once. Yeah, they've been taking steps in recent 726 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 4: years to try and address stuff like this. I mean, 727 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 4: the DP rules themselves and allocation money. All that stuff 728 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 4: is designed to let teams spend a little more money 729 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 4: on certain roster spots. The question is like, how do 730 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 4: you get it to a point where you're allowed to 731 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 4: do that more holistically with your full roster? And to me, 732 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 4: it just seems like, regardless of what we all want, 733 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 4: they're committed to making that a more gradual process then 734 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 4: probably you or I or most fans would like. But 735 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: if you're talking, if we're talking about it from a 736 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 4: perspective of what's actually gonna happen, I don't think it's 737 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 4: a rip the band aid off type situation. They have 738 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 4: their their reasons for not doing that, mainly to protect 739 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: the interests of these owners who they they a lot 740 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 4: of them want assist him, like I said that perpetuates parody, 741 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 4: and I don't really see that changing unfortunately. 742 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 2: No, I think you're right, and it's sad. And then 743 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: maybe Messi has the power to do something, but I mean, 744 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 2: that would be a hell of a lot of power 745 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: if he was to force some kind of move like that, 746 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I guess we'll see good good 747 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 2: riffing on that though. And that was that was good. 748 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: Let's uh, let's let you go. We'll come back next 749 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: Wednesday and next Tuesday next to the next week's show 750 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: will be the day after the Sounders Game two. And 751 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 2: I will just say this, Ari, I hope that we 752 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 2: are not doing our annual season ending roundtable, so hopefully 753 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: we are talking over the phone again and not in 754 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: person with the whole group as this. Hopefully the season 755 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: is not coming to an end next Tuesday, next Monday 756 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 2: night at there at lumin So have a good rest 757 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: of your week and I'll see you at the stadium 758 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 2: next Monday. You got it, Thanks Jackson, It's good stuff 759 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 2: there from Ari Lillian Wall. Yeah, hopefully next week we 760 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: are not doing that annual roundtable with Ari and Nico 761 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: and Anders. I definitely want to stay away from that 762 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 2: next week, we just have to win, have to win 763 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: on Monday. I know it's gonna be an ugly game. 764 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be rainy, but we have to win. 765 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 2: Stack one more break here in Sounders WEEKLU we'll wrap 766 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 2: up the show next Remember we have rain Weekly coming 767 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 2: up at eight pm as well. Here on kjr more 768 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: coming up Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. 769 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: Back to Sounders Weekly on your home for sunders fc 770 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: cvil's Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. 771 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Jackson Feltz here Sports Radio ninety three point 772 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: three KJRFM, Sounders Weekly, talking all things Sounders Soccer. We 773 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 2: thank Ari Lillian Wall for joining us there. In that 774 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 2: previous segment, why don't we hear from a couple of 775 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 2: Sounder players. This was after the Game one loss and 776 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs to Minnesota on Monday. It's now do or 777 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 2: die for the Sounders in Game two next Monday. But 778 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 2: after the game, Jackson Reagan and Albert Rusnak sat down 779 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: with the media and talked about the heartbreaking penalty kick 780 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: shootout loss in Game one. 781 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the game went exactly. Are we prepared 782 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 5: for it? 783 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 6: And then what we expected all week, what we trained, 784 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 6: you know, this is playoffs, and I think away from home, 785 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 6: I think. 786 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 5: We created enough chances to score at least a goal. 787 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 6: And I feel like one goal could be enough and games, 788 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 6: uh like like tonight, one could be enough to win it. 789 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean we have we have a home 790 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 6: game coming up on Monday. We'll prepare for it, you know, 791 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 6: we'll watch film and uh, we'll try and improve on 792 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 6: tonight's performance and uh and when the next. 793 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 7: Game with that, Albert, with you guys having the chances 794 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 7: and also being able to defend them a little bit 795 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 7: better on the set pieces, do you feel that there's 796 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 7: much too that you need to correct for game two 797 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 7: or is it just a matter of you know, getting 798 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 7: getting those getting that all in them. 799 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think there's there's much to be corrected, honestly. 800 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 6: You know, as I said, we'll watch sometimes how you 801 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 6: how you feel as a player in a game, and 802 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 6: how you think the game is going. It's not always 803 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 6: you know, one hundred percent right, But yeah, I thought 804 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 6: we created chances. You know, we they're going to defend 805 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 6: with eleven guys for ninety minutes and and it's not 806 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 6: easy it's not easy to break down eleven eleven men defending, 807 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 6: but that's what we spend doing all week, you know, 808 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 6: and trying to find solutions and uh and ways we 809 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 6: can create more chances than in previous games. 810 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 5: And I think we did that. So you know, whether 811 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 5: it's the. 812 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 6: The end product, show, the decision making, whatever that is, 813 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,319 Speaker 6: we'll watch film, we'll correct that and then we'll be better. 814 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 8: Next to Yeah, Jackson, what did you make of the 815 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 8: way that Minnesota attack? They obviously said the one breakaway, 816 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 8: but other than that, there wasn't a ton that gave 817 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 8: you guys trouble, Like, did they do anything different offensively 818 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 8: that you. 819 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 9: Guys were surprised by or No, it was nothing surprising. 820 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 9: It's all just I mean, it's just set pieces and 821 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 9: they're just looking to get something scrappy. They're not building 822 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 9: out and trying to break the teams down. It's really 823 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 9: just when you see they have a free kick at 824 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 9: midfield in their own half and they just lump it 825 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 9: as far as they can. So there's no, it's nothing surprising. 826 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 9: I mean, we knew it was going to be like that. 827 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 9: I felt that the defense and the team as a 828 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 9: whole handled it. 829 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 10: Well, so you guys are gonna have to play this 830 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 10: team twice and you're gonna have to win twice. So 831 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 10: what did you learn by playing against them that you 832 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 10: can use on the next two games too to beat them. 833 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 9: I don't think we learned anything tonight that we didn't 834 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 9: already already know. I think it's just about execution now, 835 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 9: and I think it's hard. I mean, this is such 836 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 9: a results oriented business, especially in the playoffs, but sometimes 837 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 9: you have to be happy with I think how we 838 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 9: approach the game and the process and the tactics, and 839 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 9: I think we created chances and we just need to execute. 840 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 9: So I think we'll I mean, we'll make some changes 841 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 9: some slight tweeks, but I think overall, I'm happy with 842 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 9: the way that the team played and I thought we 843 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 9: deserved more than a loss. I think it's one of 844 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 9: those that if it goes to one hundred and twenty 845 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 9: minutes instead of straight to penalties, I think we have 846 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 9: a good chance of getting a win based on how 847 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 9: the game was going. 848 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: Well, there you go, Jackson Reagan Sounders defender Albert Rusnak 849 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 2: Sounders midfielder talking about the game one loss there in 850 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 2: Minnesota on Monday game to ahead it is do or 851 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 2: die for your Sounders, win or the season is over. 852 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 2: That will be a seven fifty five kickoff there at 853 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 2: Luminfield on next Monday night, November three. We're gonna have 854 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: the broadcast for you starting with a Providence Swedish premat 855 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 2: show of seven thirty. And that's not gonna be on 856 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 2: terrestrial radio. It's gonna be on the stream. So you'll 857 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 2: either need to go to the iHeartRadio app or iHeartRadio 858 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 2: dot com look up Sounders FC radio and the stream 859 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: channel for Sounders FC radio should pop up there and 860 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: that is where we will have the broadcast for you 861 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,320 Speaker 2: starting at seven thirty next Monday. Folks, you can also 862 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: watch the match MLS Season Pass on the Apple TVP 863 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 2: and listen in Spanish language on l Ray thirteen sixty. 864 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 2: That is next Monday, do or die, win or the 865 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: year is done for the Sounders. Really quick, before we 866 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: end tonight's show, wanted to share something that I've been missing. 867 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: Stephen Fry was cell rated with the MLS Impact Award 868 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: just a little bit ago, and part of that is, 869 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 2: of course his amazing work with the Kick Childhood Cancer campaign. 870 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 2: As part of this out he donated fifty thousand dollars 871 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 2: the latest Scarves Fighting Cancer efforts as well leased another 872 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. So in this it's just an amazing 873 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 2: the funds going to the Kick Childhood Cancer campaign and 874 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,479 Speaker 2: Seattle Children's Hospital and the efforts to end this. I mean, 875 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 2: I don't need to reiterate my connection to this. It's 876 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 2: everybody's connected to it in some way. And it's great. 877 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: The Celebrity Impact Award they're going to Steph Frye and 878 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 2: helping raise over a half million dollars for the life 879 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: saving research. Steph was honored with that, and it's just 880 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,800 Speaker 2: it's awesome the efforts. We'll mention. The Scarves Fighting Cancer 881 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 2: annual auction with Zach Scott is coming up very soon, 882 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 2: I believe, so make sure to subscribe and check out 883 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 2: Scarvesfighting Cancer dot com Scarvesfighting Cancer dot com Christine's amazing 884 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,359 Speaker 2: efforts there. The auction is going to be starting soon, 885 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 2: I believe, so make sure to be watching that website again, 886 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: Scarvesfightingcancer dot Com because amazing work being done to kick 887 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 2: childhood cancer on all fronts. And congratulations to Stephan fry 888 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: as well. A couple final notes before we end Tonight's show. 889 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: Senator's FC Soccer is presented by Providence Swedish, the official 890 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 2: healthcare partner of Sounders FC. Also michelob Ultra is ninety 891 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 2: five calories and two point six grams of carbs. It's 892 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 2: only worth it if you enjoy it. That'll do it. 893 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 2: Fortnight's Sounder's Weekly Show. Check out the podcast Sounder's Weekly 894 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: Wherever you Gear Podcasts. In case you missed our wonderful 895 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: guest tonight, Jamie Watson, Arilllinwall or those players speaking a 896 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 2: moment to go, we will talk to you next Monday 897 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 2: night at seven point thirty on the stream channel. Have 898 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 2: a very good rest of your evening. But Rainweekly is 899 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 2: gonna come up next here on Sports Radio ninety three 900 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 2: point three k j R f M