Speaker 1: I want your opinion on this, especially if you're somebody
Speaker 1: that has dealt with this in person. So I had
Speaker 1: all the boys home this week and Chelsea and I
Speaker 1: had all the boys home. It was actually really awesome
Speaker 1: to do it, because when the boys are home, Chelsea
Speaker 1: is happy, like she just loves being around her sons.
Speaker 1: I mean, nothing can make her happier than if we
Speaker 1: all lived in the same home together. And I could
Speaker 1: put those kids back into the days of when they
Speaker 1: were hectic and crazy and enjoy your hectic moments, young parents,
Speaker 1: because I know that one day they will not be
Speaker 1: there and you will wish that you had to go
Speaker 1: to twelve you know, swimming meets and you know, use
Speaker 1: zap zoning and all the rest of this stuff. So
Speaker 1: we were hanging out talking and my favorite is when
Speaker 1: the older boys, the older two boys, Joey and Jacob,
Speaker 1: will start talking to each other like we're not there,
Speaker 1: Chelsea and I aren't there, and they started randomly going
Speaker 1: into this whole thing about out how mom and dad
Speaker 1: have given up, they no longer are trying anymore. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell are these guys talking about?
Speaker 1: And it came to their beliefs that we don't parent
Speaker 1: Luke at all anymore, and they think that Luke gets
Speaker 1: away with whatever he wants to do, like Luke Like,
Speaker 1: it was to a point where Joe and Jake were like,
Speaker 1: where's Luke right now? Oh, he's at the casino drinking?
Speaker 1: You know, where's Luke right now? Oh he's you know,
Speaker 1: hanging out at his girlfriends. Where's Luke right now? Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's probably upstairs in his room. He just
Speaker 1: had a taco bell delivery, literally the door dash guy
Speaker 1: delivered to his room.
Speaker 2: Lucas done some crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, things that Joe and Jacob say that they would
Speaker 1: be punished for, but Luke gets away with. And I
Speaker 1: want to know if this happens in your families, Like
Speaker 1: do you feel like your parents parent differently with each child?
Speaker 1: And I think in this case it probably is where
Speaker 1: Luke is the youngest in the family and because he's
Speaker 1: the youngest and Chelsea and I, Chelsea and I started
Speaker 1: having kids when we were young. Chelsea was twenty just
Speaker 1: turning twenty one years old when Joe was born. She
Speaker 1: turned twenty one on September the seventeenth. Joe was born
Speaker 1: born September the twenty first. Wow, Wow, so isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: He was, Yeah, Luke's agent, we're having a baby heart.
Speaker 1: Well guess what ended up happening. We had Luke late
Speaker 1: in life, and Luke, we're done. We don't want to
Speaker 1: hear them anymore.
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: I let him juggle knives when he was five. But
Speaker 1: the two older boys claim that we have given up.
Speaker 1: Jacqueline's your youngest, right sister.
Speaker 3: So I'm the oldest. Then I have my middle sister, Emily,
Speaker 3: and then Jacqueline's a baby. Jacqueline and I are probably
Speaker 3: the closest just because we're both moms, so we like
Speaker 3: bond over kids all the time.
Speaker 2: Did Jacqueline ever get differently all the time?
Speaker 3: We talked about it this weekend. My mom was so
Speaker 3: strict with me, so strict by the time Jacqueline rolled around.
Speaker 3: My mom was letting her have parties, going to parties,
Speaker 3: to pick her up at three in the morning, like
Speaker 3: there were no rules whatsoever. Yeah, so we were talking
Speaker 3: to Lucy about it actually because we're like Nama used
Speaker 3: to be so strict, and she just can't see it.
Speaker 3: I think my middle sister was the one that, like
Speaker 3: you know, got away with stuff. No, like the tides
Speaker 3: changed with herself. She chipped away, caused a lot of energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: My older sister Elson would say the same thing. But
Speaker 4: I also think that I might have been a little
Speaker 4: bit of a better kid because I learned from Allison's mistakes.
Speaker 4: Like I saw what made my parents really mad, and
Speaker 4: I made sure I'm not going to do that, and
Speaker 4: then they chilled on me.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: See, I feel like it was only my sister and I,
Speaker 6: but I feel like they let me do kind of
Speaker 6: whatever I wanted. I feel like my mom just let
Speaker 6: me do whatever and then based on my mistakes or
Speaker 6: like she learned through me.
Speaker 2: So my sister had it harder even ye learned.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like my sister couldn't do a lot of his
Speaker 6: stuff that I would do, Like I could go out
Speaker 6: whenever I wanted to. I feel like my sister had
Speaker 6: a curfew, like she had to be in And I
Speaker 6: don't know if it was just hard being a girl.
Speaker 2: Maybe that played a little role.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think if I had a daughter, I
Speaker 1: would totally parent differently. Like the fact that I three boys,
Speaker 1: they all kind of, you know, got parented differently based
Speaker 1: on probably how easy or how hard they were. Joe
Speaker 1: definitely got the most disciplined. Jacob, I think didn't need
Speaker 1: as much discipline because he never really got in trouble.
Speaker 1: Like I remember going to a parent teacher conference one
Speaker 1: time for Jacob, and the teachers were all like, why
Speaker 1: are you guys here, Like they didn't even know why
Speaker 1: we were there because he did so well. Luke, we
Speaker 1: go yeah whatever, like you know. But I will say
Speaker 1: this about Luke though Luke had to be the tag
Speaker 1: along at all the older brothers events and things, and
Speaker 1: he was such a good sport about it. He never
Speaker 1: complained about it that we of like reward him now,
Speaker 1: like Joe thinks it's amazing that Luke is able to
Speaker 1: go like out of the country for like the spring
Speaker 1: breaks that he does, and that you know, he lives
Speaker 1: in a frat house and.
Speaker 3: He lives in I think even parents like I even
Speaker 3: find myself doing it with a twelve and nine year
Speaker 3: old like Smith is getting away with way Moore I was,
Speaker 3: I still am. I'm so strict with Luis and with him,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, where are you going to go
Speaker 3: down the street to mobile? Okay, go ahead, I mean
Speaker 3: Lucy couldn't even go to the park till she was
Speaker 3: like eleven years old.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Joe asked me if I do cocaine with Luke and
Speaker 1: I said to him, no, we don't do cocaine.
Speaker 2: We drop acid.
Speaker 5: But nine he said. He said to me, Goes, it
Speaker 5: wouldn't surprise me if you do cocaine with Luke. And
Speaker 5: I said to him, like, what would make you think that? Seriously,
Speaker 5: I don't booger sugar with my son. You let the
Speaker 5: door dash man come. That is why Natalie, what's up?
Speaker 7: Hi? Hi?
Speaker 8: I just want to say my children say this same
Speaker 8: thing about me. I have four older children thirty five,
Speaker 8: thirty two, twenty nine, twenty five, then twelve whole year
Speaker 8: old does not have any doesn't have any chores, and
Speaker 8: they complain.
Speaker 7: About why I'm not streak with her.
Speaker 8: I just like I'm tired now at this point, I'm like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 8: she get good, great, I'm good good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing by the way that you have that
Speaker 1: span of kids, Like I thought it was tough to have,
Speaker 1: you know, Joe ten years from from Luke. But the
Speaker 1: idea that you have a thirty something year old and
Speaker 1: a twelve year old.
Speaker 2: She tired. That's amazing.
Speaker 8: Yes, but but I got divorced and I got a
Speaker 8: little wild. I forgot that my toombs wouldn't tie.
Speaker 2: It still work down there. I love I love it.
Speaker 1: It's funny. It's like their child too. They could probably
Speaker 1: help raise that kid.
Speaker 8: They don't want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, part of it. Thanks Natalie, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: What's up, Kyle? How you doing?
Speaker 7: How are you guys good?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 7: I see like when I was younger, I've brought at
Speaker 7: seven years younger than this, and I when I was
Speaker 7: in high school, I feel like my parents want to
Speaker 7: know I have your place. I was going till then
Speaker 7: when my brothers at the high school like you to say,
Speaker 7: always going going out, and they'd be like, Okay, see
Speaker 7: you later.
Speaker 2: It is true.
Speaker 1: Like when Joe would leave the house with the car,
Speaker 1: we would track him everywhere. I followed him a couple
Speaker 1: of times because they didn't believe where he was going.
Speaker 2: Luke the kid goes to another state? What this is
Speaker 2: no joke? Luke Luke.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, we're like, where's Luke? Luke's in Indiana?
Speaker 1: What what's going on here?
Speaker 2: It is so funny how we are so different. What's up, Lori?
Speaker 5: Hi?
Speaker 2: Hey, how are you? We're doing good?
Speaker 1: Do you find that you if if either your parents
Speaker 1: gave up or you gave up.
Speaker 4: Oh, I totally came up.
Speaker 8: My kids are thirty two.
Speaker 2: And twenty five and fifteen.
Speaker 7: Oh and my oldest, my daughter, you know, the youngest
Speaker 7: is real snarky, you know, and.
Speaker 2: He's not mean, but he talks back. And my daughter,
Speaker 2: the oldest, she's like, beat him.
Speaker 3: If I had said that to you when I was
Speaker 3: a kid, you would have.
Speaker 8: Beat my aunt.
Speaker 1: You know what it is though, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if you feel this way. Don't you feel blessed that
Speaker 1: you had your fifteen year old?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Yeah, like there's something like you're a
Speaker 2: good kid.
Speaker 1: Chelsea and I talked about this on our podcast that
Speaker 1: we don't podcast, which by the way, we have a
Speaker 1: new one today. I get really emotional talking about my dad.
Speaker 1: It was honestly, I hated that today's podcast. I hated
Speaker 1: it because it made me have these really interesting feelings
Speaker 1: all Father's Day. But we taped it on Father's Day
Speaker 1: and it was really interesting. I talked a lot about
Speaker 1: my dad having me live with my sisters.
Speaker 2: It was really interesting.
Speaker 1: But with that said, Chelse and I talk on our
Speaker 1: podcast about if we didn't have Luke, we probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: be together right now, Like we don't think that we
Speaker 1: would be married still, and there wouldn't be this chapter
Speaker 1: of our lives together because we only both stayed married
Speaker 1: for Luke because we didn't want Luke to have to
Speaker 1: deal with divorce when he was a little kid, and
Speaker 1: at our worst times were when he was like young, young,
Speaker 1: and so so with that said, I can see where
Speaker 1: you could relate to this with your thirty year old,
Speaker 1: you know, child and a fifteen year old child.
Speaker 5: You know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, By the way, I actually wanted to do the
Speaker 1: whole go back to school with Luke And actually, you know,
Speaker 1: did you ever see the movie Back to School with
Speaker 1: Rodney Dangerfield at all?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch that movie. It's hysterical.
Speaker 1: He goes back to school to go hang out, his
Speaker 1: son goes to college, and he goes to college with him.
Speaker 2: Oh lord, you you a pledged state of kai. What
Speaker 2: would happen?
Speaker 1: And if next year I just go back to Michigan
Speaker 1: State and go to school and live with Luke, you
Speaker 1: think he would get crazy? And you would get crazy.
Speaker 1: You have to watch out for you. What's up, Liz,
Speaker 1: how you doing?
Speaker 9: Good morning?
Speaker 2: Good morning? What's going on?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 9: I just want to talk about the parenting situation.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, did you text us or what did you do?
Speaker 2: Did you call us?
Speaker 8: I called?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah you heard us talking about how you parent
Speaker 1: differently with kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 9: So I have a sister that's six years older than me.
Speaker 9: I have a brother that's two years older than me,
Speaker 9: and I believe that me and my siblings all got
Speaker 9: different parents from our mom and dad. We all have
Speaker 9: the same mom and dad, but the experience they had
Speaker 9: in life at the moment that each child was born
Speaker 9: was so different that we all grew up different and
Speaker 9: had completely different relationships.
Speaker 2: With our parents. What version did you get?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 9: I got the best because I'm the baby, the one
Speaker 9: I learned. But I learned a lot from watching my
Speaker 9: sister get in trouble and do the underage drinking and
Speaker 9: all that. So I learned my lesson from her getting
Speaker 9: in trouble.
Speaker 7: I feel that.
Speaker 4: And you know what, my parents didn't.
Speaker 9: Have to be as strict with me because they knew
Speaker 9: I knew better already.
Speaker 1: That's kind of Jacob and Joe's like, Jacob saw Joe
Speaker 1: get into a bunch of trouble and you know, go
Speaker 1: do his goofy stuff that he did, and Jacob kind
Speaker 1: of learned from that.
Speaker 2: Now, Luke, I don't think Luke was really paying attention.
Speaker 2: I really don't think he care because he knows you
Speaker 2: guys don't care.
Speaker 1: You know what the coolest is is seeing their dynamic
Speaker 1: together as uh as siblings and seeing how like Jacob
Speaker 1: is because he is a he's a psychologist and he
Speaker 1: does that for a living. Him giving the older or
Speaker 1: the you know, his older brother advice like from his
Speaker 1: professional standpoint and then giving Luke professional advice was amazing.
Speaker 1: It was like really cool this weekend. It was honestly professionals.
Speaker 1: He would actually, can I tell you something, it's so funny.
Speaker 4: It han't come in for a family therapy session.
Speaker 2: Would be cool.
Speaker 1: We have friends of ours that will occasionally or family
Speaker 1: members that will call Jacob up and go, hey, I
Speaker 1: just want to run something by you, and Jacob gives
Speaker 1: some really good advice.
Speaker 2: You should give them his billing.
Speaker 7: Free.
Speaker 1: You should have heard Luke with Jacob. He found out
Speaker 1: how much money Jacob made and he goes, I ain't
Speaker 1: enough you guys like, oh yeah, Luke. Luke's like Wolf
Speaker 1: of Wall Street, Like he's like, you should have gone
Speaker 1: into Stockbrokene or something like that.
Speaker 4: Very of