1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cracking this morning, a presentation of the Krack 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: and audio network Ken Sports Radio ninety three point three 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: KJR FM. Here's Mike Benton. 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Cracking jets. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 3: It's coming your way this evening on a Thursday, November thirteenth. 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: Mike Benton with you for craking this morning, looking forward 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 3: to having it once again tonight, face off at seven 8 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: o'clock Pacific time, airtime at six thirty for the pregame 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: shows served up by Frostpreed Corps Light. Choose chill ever 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: it fits you, Alciniski a course on the call. I'll 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: join you back by the Corpse Light landing in section 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: twenty from the top of the broadcast. Tonight post game, 13 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 3: by the way, we are back at Tom's watch Bar 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: right across the street from Climate Pledge Arena, So come 15 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: and join me Alconisky as well for food, friends, beverages, vibes, 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 3: big screens, you name it, and more postgame conversation. So 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: the Crack and trying to get back into the wind Callumn. 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: We'll talk with John Forsland in just a bit for 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: more on the state of the Krack and goaltending their 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: defense and a perceived offensive slump. How worried should we 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 3: be about this? John will provide some more insight coming 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: up on this in just a bit, as the Kraken 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: looked to go to and zero against Winnipeg this season, 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: though a pretty challenging test considering the Jets are right 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: now ten and six, coming off a four to two 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: victory over the Vancouver Canucks back on Tuesday. Well, the 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: crack and facing Columbus looking to get out to a 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: big start with a rookie Ford once again looking to 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: light the fuse offensively on the cracking side. 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: Now Larsen right side, back to the line, Chandler Steven said, 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: two strides and shoots get his own rebound, fires again 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: off the back skate a gossee fabreau. It'll bounce below 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: the goal line as Ted Greaves didn't know where it was, 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: cracket resetting bits done, couldn't pick it up. Here comes 35 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: mart Tenko down the right side. 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 5: Shoots off the crossbar. Oh my goodness, what chaos end 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: to end here? 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 6: Midway through period one? And now everly well at this 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 6: all to the goal. 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: And Jack Grees will glove it down. I fancilly over 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: an ear blue line. 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 7: Look back at the near. 43 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: Side CINERI passing front Mark tenko one play man Matt Murray. 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 6: Shuts it down. Oh what a fantastic pass from general 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 6: to the corner. 46 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 8: You got to that puck first and fired it up 47 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 8: to the front and Marchenko with just a quick ritch 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 8: shot on them. 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 6: Eight seven shots cracking laid there. Ben Myers gets most. 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 5: For Winter ten stop Winter is coming, Ryan. 51 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: Winter ten gets it started here in Seattle three seventeen 52 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: to play in the. 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 8: First one, nothing cracking. We just talked about how much 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 8: I like this fourth line combination. Right now, what into 55 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 8: the ace you get a big safe by Matt Murray. 56 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 6: The other end goes to Ford line. They go to work. 57 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 8: Ben Myers picking that fuck up top of the circles. 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 8: He's got a lead in the net like you did earlier. 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 8: He sells shot and at the last second backhand over 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 8: to widgeted one timer pass greaves one nuffing kracking. 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 6: Miche Evans for the high slot, hands it off to 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 6: them on tour white ling. 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 4: Blue line shot off the boats. Oh that had more much. 64 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: That was a knuckle pucket beat jet reeds. 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 6: Looked like it was gonna. 66 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 5: Flutter over the. 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: Glove, but it kicked the bar in Starrensky right side. 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: Fantillian from bumped on goal, knocked. 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 5: Down save Marteko Fan Telly shot. 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: Off the glove of Matt Murray and they score. Matt 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: Murray two more inches from a highlight reel SportsCenter same 72 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 4: it goes off the end of his glove and the 73 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: Jackets on the power play tie. The game had a 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: goal apiece. Marchhenko through center. He's got Fantilly. Fantilly gets 75 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: by backhand big same by Murray. He goes down and 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 4: stones fan Tilly's back and right hand. 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 6: It's Charlie Coyle. He waits for the signal. Coil picks 78 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: up the pucket. He'll bring it near side. 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: Coil into the circle, back to the Hashbargs low slot 80 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 4: shot off the bar. He scores and the Columbus Blue 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 4: Jackets take the extra point in the shootout final two 82 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: to one. 83 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: So a tough way for that to end in a 84 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: two to one Kraken shootout loss to Columbus out shot. 85 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: By the way thirty four to twenty three, which gives. 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: You the indication of how good Matt Murray was in 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: that game. He's still looking for his first career win 88 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: with the Kraken. But played well enough to get it 89 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: thirty three saves on thirty four shots he had and 90 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: providing more answers as far as goaltending depth in behind 91 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: Joey Decord, who was still sidelined. Nonetheless, the Kraken unable 92 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: to cash in on two power play opportunities and generating 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: just fun five shansn nets in period three to one, 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: as well in sudden depth over time John Fororzland coming 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: up in just a bit before that. The Cracket holding 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: an optional practice on Wednesday at crack In Community ice Plex, 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: and head coach Lane Lambert spoke with the media afterward 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: with more on his views with the Krackt offense and 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: their direction heading into this Thursday's matchup. 100 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 7: So last night after the game, you were talking a 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 7: bit about, you know, the chances that you guys did 102 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 7: have earlier in the game that marn't converted. 103 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: I mean, how do you go about getting guys to convert? 104 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 6: Is it more focused on the on the moments? 105 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 4: Is it like how do you. 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, no, I mean there's uh, you know, look 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 9: at if you look at the shot attempts we've had. 108 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 9: Let's just go back to the last three games. Uh, 109 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 9: you know, We've had X number of shot attempts, about 110 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 9: one hundred eighty seven to be exact, and you know 111 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 9: we've only got we've had over one hundred of those 112 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 9: either blocked or missed the net. So there's your there's 113 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 9: your formula for you know, having success is to get 114 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 9: more of those attempts on net. And you know, we 115 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 9: have great structure in our defensive zone. We need to 116 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 9: get better structure in the offensive zone. There's certainly some 117 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 9: things that we can do. There's things that we talked 118 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 9: about this morning, and we just have to keep trying 119 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 9: to build on it. But you know, we can't defer 120 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 9: to passing. We've got to have a shot first mentality 121 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 9: and we've got to get pucks through. You know, forty 122 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 9: four percent of the pucks that we shoot getting on 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 9: net isn't a good enough percentage. 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 5: You mentioned the shots blocked if we don't get on debt. 125 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 6: Does that have anything to do with the location of 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 6: the shots or is it more the shots are taked 127 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 6: for where they are, but then they get on it. 128 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 9: Uh, there's I mean, you're always going to have some 129 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 9: shots blocked and you're always going to have missnets. It's 130 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 9: that you know, that's just the way it is. But 131 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 9: I think that we you know, and we we've talked 132 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 9: about it. I think we take too long to get 133 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 9: shots away, and uh, you know, fractions and I'm talking 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 9: fractions of seconds are the difference between somebody getting a 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 9: stick on it and going into the stands or us 136 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 9: getting a shot with a potential rebound and two or 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 9: three cracks at it from there. So you know, there 138 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 9: certainly is a way for us to upgrade those opportunities. 139 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 6: In your experience and you've worked with, you know, multiple. 140 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: Teams, Why why you guys has. 141 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: To take to shoot? 142 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 8: Is it because there are tends to be unselfish players 143 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 8: at times in commonality. 144 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a bit of a you know that, that's 145 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 9: probably the biggest thing is there. You know, they're being 146 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 9: unselfish and they're trying to set their teammate up. We 147 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 9: want them to be selfish. We talked about that this morning. 148 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 9: If you're selfish as a shooter, if you're selfish as 149 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 9: an offensive player, that just means you're you know, you're 150 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 9: going to the net. You're putting pucks to the net 151 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 9: and it's good for the team. So you know, that's 152 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 9: it's a good observation by you, and I think that 153 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 9: we just have to stop deferring and start taking more shots. 154 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 5: Looked like Shane was Berkeley's playing last night. Did you 155 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: play from Shane and then spot last night? Maybe even 156 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: something you want. 157 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 6: To see from him and goes forward? 158 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought, you know, we're talking about being a shooter. 159 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 9: Shane writes a shooter, you know. And I thought he 160 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 9: had a couple of good opportunities last night, and we 161 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 9: wanted to use his speed down the wing and and 162 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 9: you know, maybe not have to come two hundred feet 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 9: from an uh you know, from a centerman standpoint. So 164 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 9: we'll see how we go in where this goes from here. 165 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 4: And never is what he stacked a couple of good 166 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 4: games where I just what you liked about how he's 167 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: handled the year so far, the start off. 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, he's been well, they've all been really professional about it. 169 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 9: And you know, he's gotten an opportunity here and he's 170 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 9: played well. You know, we haven't given him any run support, 171 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 9: so to speak, but he's played well enough to have, 172 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 9: you know, have better results than he's gotten. 173 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 8: Lane Ben Myers game last night, I had his system 174 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 8: lader and gold the shots in a couple of hits. 175 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 6: Two questions, what's your coaching staff say to give both 176 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 6: his game last night? 177 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: And was there anything specific on. 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 6: The kind ofly he took the net as. 179 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 9: Far as feedback that he had, Yeah, I mean, as 180 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 9: far as as far as coaching staff, we want to 181 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 9: keep playing the way he is. He he's using his speed, 182 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 9: he's in you know, he's in on puck's on the 183 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 9: fore check, you know, and he's he's owning the puck 184 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 9: in the in the offensive zone as well. 185 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 6: You know. 186 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 9: I mean he took one of the net in the 187 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 9: first period. He was coming off the wall taking one 188 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 9: of the net when he made the play to Winterton, 189 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 9: and you know, he obviously took one to the net. 190 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 9: I don't like penalties two hundre feet away from our nett, 191 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 9: but I can live with those penalties when we're taking 192 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 9: pucks of the net. 193 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 8: Heart, what do you want to see from Janyuan as 194 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 8: he kind of waits for another opportunity. 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 7: To get back in the line. 196 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 9: Well, he's got to stay ready. That's the first thing. 197 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 9: That's one of the biggest things. It's not just for 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 9: a younger player, it's for any player who hasn't played 199 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 9: for you know a few games. Is you got to 200 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 9: stay ready. You got to make sure you're ready and 201 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 9: you're in game shape. That's step one. Step two is 202 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 9: when he gets back in you know his detail, his 203 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 9: defensive play, and I want him to do what I'm 204 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 9: talking about with everybody else. I want to use his shot. 205 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: All right, Johnny is back from his national TV adventure. 206 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: Is going to have him back as always, especially here 207 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: where he's always welcome on and cracking this morning. Of course, 208 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: I play for the crack at Hockey Network NHL on TNT, 209 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: Amazon Prime as well, and tour guide for color Analyst 210 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: and our pal Eddie Old Chik back in town as well, Johnny, 211 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: how are you? I heard dinner was on the menu 212 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: and I noticed in this time ed Zoe paid for it. 213 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 7: He did tonight. I got to get him credit. We 214 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 7: kind of trade off that way, and tonight was his. 215 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 7: He kind of set me up. He told me last 216 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 7: night that he wasn't going to pay, so I was 217 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 7: ready to pay. I put my pennies aside, but he 218 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 7: broke down. So it's all good, Mike. All good? 219 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Is ed Zoe medium mersdy kind of guy? 220 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 7: No, he's completely well done. 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: Oh, cook to perfection, more. 222 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 7: More well done than I've ever seen another human being 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 7: well done. Me, it has to be basically shoe leather, 224 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 7: and he's happy see more on the rare side. 225 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: That sounds like my wife who loves it basically like 226 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: its charred black and wants to make sure everything is cooked. 227 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: I liked a little bit of tenderness, like right smack 228 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: in the middle. I yet to have some juices kind 229 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 3: of oozing out of it. 230 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I lean more rare, and he is a 231 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 7: If he gets a prime rib, he will ask for 232 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 7: the end cut as well done as possible. Well, then 233 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 7: it makes no bones about it. 234 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 9: Yeah. 235 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, then again you have the juicus here to dip 236 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: it in and it's all good. It's all good, but 237 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: great to have you back ed. Zoe back in downtown 238 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: as well and full house. It seems like here for 239 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: the press box coming up against Winnipeg, and I kind 240 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: of lead into this here first off with the goaltending 241 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: picture and it seems as if Joey de Cord getting 242 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: back on the ice. That's a step in the right direction. 243 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 3: But in the meantime they've had a jugglest thing with 244 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: Matt Murray. Then Philip Grubauer getting a win in Saint Louis. 245 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: But it really just seemed as if we have seen 246 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: Matt Murray turn the clock back a little bit here, 247 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: and it couldn't have come right now at a better time. 248 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: I think at this point of the season. What's your 249 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: outlook right now on this goaltending picture. 250 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 7: Well, you hope that obviously, I hope it continues. I mean, 251 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 7: it's funny because we talked about the three goalies and 252 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 7: the oddity of it all, and maybe it takes a 253 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 7: roster spot away from another player, skater forward, a d 254 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 7: that you might need. You know, that was earlier in 255 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 7: the season, and whether or not there's going to be, 256 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 7: you know, enough work for these guys. Are they going 257 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 7: to sit way too long? And you know, and Joey 258 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 7: played every game of that homestand you know, he got 259 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 7: to a situation where okay, now because of need, they're 260 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 7: thrust into duty. Both guys I thought played really well 261 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 7: on the weekend on the road. Obviously I didn't see 262 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 7: the game against Columbus. It's seeing clips. I read about it. 263 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 7: I've heard about it, and yes he did. He did 264 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 7: a great job. Matt Murray did a great job, so 265 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 7: did Grubauer and Saint Louis. It'll be interesting to see, 266 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 7: you know, what holds up, you know, tonight and who 267 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 7: gets the start. You know, I would think it's going 268 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 7: to be Matt Murray against a much more difficult opponent 269 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 7: in my opinion in Winnipeg. We'll see and then the cord, 270 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 7: you know, with a sighting at practice. That's interesting because 271 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 7: you know, we don't get a lot of information, but 272 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 7: some of the information that I was getting from people 273 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 7: that I trust was kind of negati about Joey's the 274 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 7: duration of his injury. So this is good news to 275 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 7: see that he was able to get on the ice 276 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 7: and go through whatever he did. That's nothing but a positive. 277 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 7: But in the meantime, I think short term for the fans, 278 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 7: it's a Grubauer Murray situation and it's just going to 279 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 7: be up to Lane to figure out, you know, which opponent, 280 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 7: which game and so on as they move forward. 281 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: And because it seems as if with the way that 282 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: this team plays, goaltending has to be a big slice 283 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: of the pie as far as success, we've seen this 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: and part of this is also because they have been 285 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: struggling to score goals for this year, they are toward 286 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: the bottom of goals scored for per game, and they're 287 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: right now last in the NHL at five on five 288 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: goals for the entire season. Lane Lambert is set after 289 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: practice and it was optional on Wednesday. He wants the 290 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: players to play with more of a selfish approach. I mean, 291 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 3: and this could go between how some guys are just 292 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: wired to pass the puck but you know just before shoot, 293 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: or whether they're just coming off a plane previous assistance 294 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: where it's a little more east west of line. But Johnny, 295 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: what's your read here on the cause as of this 296 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: right now? In the direction that they maybe have to go, 297 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: I would. 298 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 7: Just tell everybody to cool your jets and don't get 299 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 7: too worked up about the fact that they can't score. 300 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: I don't think that's a surprise. Based on the players 301 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 7: that they have, the type of team that it is, 302 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 7: we know a lot of things need to be in 303 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 7: play for them to be successful. The most important thing 304 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 7: for this team is to play a strong defensive game 305 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 7: that grinds the opponents into the ice, supported by capable goaltending. 306 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 7: If they continue to do that, I think the goals 307 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 7: will come. It's going to be challenging. It's going to 308 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 7: probably take a lot more patience that maybe people have 309 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 7: right now. And know there's people after the Columbus game 310 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 7: that are ready to jump off a bridge because they 311 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 7: couldn't score against Jeff b Reeves in that game, against 312 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 7: a team that played the night before and a flu 313 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 7: and sickness going through their room and all of that. 314 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 7: I get it. But the style of play that Lane 315 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 7: has put down here will win, and the Kraken need 316 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 7: to just embrace it. And I think the players have 317 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 7: and I think it's interesting. You know he talks about 318 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 7: getting in better position offensively to get more shot volume. Well, 319 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 7: I think what they could do is basically simplify their 320 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 7: offensive game and it will. It will do them a 321 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 7: world of good because you know, when I watch them 322 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 7: play offensively, sometimes they psych a little bit too much. 323 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 7: They look for a scene pass that might be you know, 324 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 7: either riskier impossible. They're looking for perfect plays. So it's 325 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 7: meat and potatoes defensively, meat and potatoes offensively that means 326 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 7: low to high point shots get to the net period. 327 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 7: And if they do that, I think they'll score. And 328 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 7: if they continue to play a solid brand of hockey, 329 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: because every time you want to talk about, well they're 330 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 7: at the Barn League offensively, Well, they're at the upper 331 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 7: end of it in terms of their defensive play. So 332 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 7: you know, I looked at some fancy numbers last week 333 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 7: and yes, you know, goals for expected not so good, 334 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 7: goals for against expected the best. So that's okay. You 335 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 7: can't get into where it was last year. As soon 336 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 7: as you get risky, it's trouble. So I think we 337 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 7: just have to fans sit back and let them play 338 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 7: their system and go through this process and see how 339 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 7: it plays out. 340 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: I'll add to that as well. They've given up exactly 341 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 3: a grand total of one five on five goal, one 342 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: five on five goal now over the last one hundred 343 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: and twenty minutes. 344 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: That's not too shabby, and that. 345 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 7: I'm glad you brought that up, because that's a metric 346 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 7: that I look at all the time, and goal for 347 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 7: goals against five on five is a key stat and 348 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 7: it usually leads you to a good conclusion, you know, 349 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 7: and that's what you look for in any statistic conclusion. 350 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 7: Otherwise it's just a number that kind of you get 351 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 7: thrown out there and it sound intelligent and you start 352 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 7: wirping up numbers, but basically it's got to lead you 353 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 7: down a good path and five on five. Will remember, 354 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 7: in the second year this franchise, when they did make 355 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 7: the playoffs, they led the league in five on five. 356 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: Goals, Johnny, what difference does it make with Jared McCann 357 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: and Freddie Goodrow out right now? 358 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 7: Well, it hurts them, you know, with Freddie number one 359 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 7: face off wise, and this team is severely challenged to 360 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 7: win face offs, and it's going to be the case 361 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 7: and Chandler Stevenson has to take way too many face offs. 362 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 7: Goudreau and the lineup will alleviate that issue. He's a 363 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 7: right handed shot, which gives the coach an option, you know, 364 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 7: in certain circumstances to get him on his power side. 365 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 7: When you go at it here, you basically have Shane 366 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 7: Wright as your only right handed option. And Shane's not 367 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 7: there yet. He's not very good in the face off circle. 368 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 7: He's going to improve as he gets older and gets stronger, 369 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 7: but it's not there. Beniers is holding his own, but 370 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 7: he's fifty to fifty at best, usually around forty seven percent. 371 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 7: Stevenson is an excellent faceoff man, but needs to have support, 372 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 7: you know, and Ben Myers and Ben Myers and his 373 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 7: line mates played very well against Columbus. You know, that 374 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 7: was that was good. So that's a positive, that yeah, 375 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 7: And that's a yeah. And he's a good player, you know, 376 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 7: he's he's one of these guys that you know, it's 377 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 7: it's unfortunate that he's just kind of typecast as a tweener, 378 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 7: a and a call up and a guy that can 379 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 7: go up and down between the NHL and the EHL 380 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 7: and made basically an HL veteran guy for that purpose only. 381 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 7: But I always felt in the two camps that I've 382 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 7: seen him that he deserved more of an opportunity than 383 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 7: he was given. So this is good for him. This 384 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 7: is good that he's he can move, he's an excellent skater, 385 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 7: he's an outstanding college player. I mean, he is not 386 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 7: too far away from being, you know, in a in 387 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 7: a group of twelve at the NHL level on a 388 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 7: regular basis, and he's proving that he wants to stick around. 389 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 7: So good for him. We'll see when they when they 390 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 7: get healthier. But you know what, the way the schedule is, 391 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 7: it's going to be a revolving door with injuries all 392 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 7: year for every team around the league. 393 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: I also love what Lane Lambert said Johnny about Ben 394 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: Meyer the other night, and he was smack with a 395 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: goaltender interference penalty driving the net and that will just 396 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: drive coaches while pull their hair out when you take 397 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: a penalty two hundred feet away from your own net. 398 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 3: And he said so as well. But he can always 399 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 3: live with those penalties because Ben Myers is doing what 400 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: everyone has been commissioned on this team to do, and 401 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: that to make a B line right toward the front 402 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: of the nets right. 403 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 7: And again, this is a process because for some players 404 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 7: on this roster it doesn't come naturally and it has 405 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 7: to kind of get extracted out of them and it 406 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 7: might take, you know, half a season. Hopefully not, but 407 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 7: maybe it will for them to do it in numbers 408 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 7: and to a man, and that's what you're driving for. 409 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 7: So good on him for playing that way in his role. 410 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 7: He has to, so it's a little bit easier in 411 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 7: other roles with other guys who are National Hockey League 412 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 7: players are looking at careers and bodies of work and 413 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: contracts and all these different things. They need to do it, 414 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 7: you know, And that's why I think if they simplify 415 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: their game offensively. As they're playing defensively, the goals are 416 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 7: going to start to come. But it's not going to 417 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 7: be an easy way to play. And you know, most 418 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 7: of the teams go through a situation like this. 419 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: Berkeley Catton is past a nine game mark, now three 420 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: assists so far, still looking for his first NHL goal. 421 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: He's been playing up, he's been playing down, he's been 422 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: playing out there for the last minute of regulation, all 423 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: over the place. At this point, Johnny, what do you 424 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: make out of Berkeley Catton at this point in the NHL? 425 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 7: Getting better? But still, you know, the circumstances have given 426 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 7: him an opportunity to be here, and with a team 427 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 7: that doesn't have a skill need with McCann being out 428 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 7: of the lineup, a team that had it has a 429 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 7: little bit more of a pedigree as far as a 430 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 7: playoff team that can be considered that way going into 431 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 7: the season. Then maybe maybe there's not a spot for him, 432 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 7: but there is, and you can see within games, although 433 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 7: it comes and it goes to be fair, you know, 434 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 7: you can see the framework of what's going to be 435 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 7: a very dynamic player if he hits his stride. You 436 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 7: can also see, to be fair, a player that gets 437 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 7: separated from the puck, that gets lost out there a 438 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 7: little bit. And to be fair to him, he's not 439 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 7: really playing his natural position. He's played the majority of 440 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 7: his tenure here on the wings. But if they do 441 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 7: play him down the middle, there's a risk that's in play, 442 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 7: and so you know, it's difficult. And then the style 443 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 7: of play that the Krack and are employing, it's hard 444 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 7: for him as a nineteen year old, you know, because 445 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 7: he's not physically mature yet, so he needs to get 446 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 7: stronger and he's trying to do this at the NHL level, which, 447 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 7: to be fair to him, is not easy. So it 448 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 7: is what it is. I hate that phrase, but that's 449 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 7: what it is. You have to kind of live with 450 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 7: it because there is no option for him in the 451 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 7: American Hockey League, and I guess there really isn't an 452 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 7: option in junior hockey either. For right now, you know 453 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 7: here he is. As we get closer to the holidays, 454 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 7: we'll see what's in play in terms of World Juniors 455 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 7: and all of that. They're going to burn a year. 456 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 7: I think the team would never have done it if 457 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 7: they're not comfortable doing it. Burn a year of his 458 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 7: contract and just get them, get them move along. And 459 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 7: if you listen to Lane every day, which you do 460 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 7: because you're there every day doing all that work, you 461 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 7: hear him kind of be very guarded with how he 462 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 7: talks about him. He talks about him glowingly in terms 463 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 7: of potential. But I think what Lane's trying to get through, 464 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 7: and I want the fans to understand that, is that 465 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 7: they're trying to coach them through situations while they're trying 466 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 7: to win games. That's hard. That's hard on the coaching 467 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 7: staff and the player. 468 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, for sure. And we even heard from Lane 469 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 3: Lambert two days ago before the first game of the 470 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: homestand here where there was more of a guarded approach 471 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 3: as far as his long term picture. But he loves 472 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 3: his foundation as far how he can move the plot. 473 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: But it is going to be certainly of work in 474 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 3: progress here with them at nineteen years of age. And 475 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 3: funny enough, how this game just made change next year 476 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: here with the AEL thing, and a guy like Jack 477 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: O'Brien is all of a sudden eligible to go there after. 478 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: He has been tearing up the Ohl this season. 479 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 7: Right, and so you know that's the beauty of that situation. 480 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 7: But every player's different. Every players in a different circumstance. 481 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: I do think with Cat and it's more clear for 482 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 7: him in terms of where he's at than say where 483 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 7: it was a couple of years ago for Shane Right. 484 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 7: I think a lot that was going on with Shane 485 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 7: Wright when he was kind of in the same position 486 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 7: as psychological, you know, and the team doesn't have to 487 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 7: worry about that. You know, he had right coming off 488 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 7: his draft year and the so called slip the floor 489 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 7: and all these different things, and there's a lot of 490 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 7: media attention in Canada about Shane Wright at that time 491 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 7: and where he was going to play. Berkeley can basically 492 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 7: be comfortable in his own skin, you know, with this organization, 493 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 7: they're going to do everything possible to insulate him and 494 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 7: make sure that it works. I think if everybody's honest 495 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 7: and they got in a room, which they're not going 496 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 7: to be, but if they were, you know, they would say, 497 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 7: I wish we didn't have to do this with this 498 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 7: player at this time playing in the National Hockey League, 499 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 7: but they are, and I think as time marchers on, 500 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 7: like I said before, there's going to be injuries. So 501 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 7: I think because he does have a skill set that 502 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 7: they desperately need. It's a grinding team and there's not 503 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 7: a lot of prolific offensive skill on the roster. He 504 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 7: is supposed to be that moving forward, and you can 505 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 7: see it in his toolbox what he brings. You can 506 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 7: see that he has that. It's just it's not going 507 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 7: to be consistent at this level. 508 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: Kraken and Jets coming up in the second matchup of 509 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 3: the season. Winnipeg is ten and six coming out there 510 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: win over the Vancouver Canucks, and a lot of folks 511 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: were talking about the word regression when it came to 512 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: this team. I'm not so sure about that yet here 513 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: at this point, they got Jonathan Taves and it seems 514 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 3: like he's now turning back the clock on his own game. 515 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: Adding to that, Kyle Connor, Mark Schifley and Josh Morrissey 516 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: still doing their thing. 517 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: What's you read here on the challenge here for this evening, Johnny, Well. 518 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 7: It's going to be a very good challenge because the 519 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 7: Winnipeg Jets play the same way the Kraken Air attempting 520 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 7: to play, and I don't want to be disrespectful, but 521 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 7: with more talent, and that's the difference. They have an 522 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 7: unbelievably world class goaltender who keeps them where they need 523 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 7: to be every single night because he plays almost every 524 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 7: single night. 525 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 6: Yes, in Connor Hellibuck. 526 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 7: And then you have this core of talent led by Schifley. 527 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 7: You get to Connor Ballardi, get these guys up front, 528 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 7: you get to Josh Morrissey in the back end, and 529 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 7: then you go through their lineup and it gets heavy 530 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 7: with Adam Lowry, who's just come back from injury as 531 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 7: one of the best captains you know in the National 532 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 7: Hockey League in my opinion, a guy who can play 533 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 7: basically a three seed position but do it at an 534 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 7: elite level. He's heavy, strong, doesn't make a lot of 535 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 7: defensive mistakes. Jonathan Tave's unbelievable story as a legend who's 536 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 7: making a comeback, and now with Lowry coming back into 537 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 7: their lineup, Caves will slot in a better spot than 538 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 7: he's tried to play for the first six to seven 539 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 7: weeks or so as the second center. So you know, 540 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 7: they have an unbelievable team game that's in lockstep defensively, 541 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 7: and then when they need a power play goal, they 542 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 7: get it. When they need a game breaking play, they 543 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 7: get it. And they will go, they will check for 544 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 7: their chances, they will skate with you. They can play 545 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 7: any way you want. They're just in a tough neighborhood. 546 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: That Central Division is really hard and they're in the 547 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 7: same spot. They always are top three team depending on 548 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 7: where they finish, and they won the President's Trophy last year. 549 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 7: But Pop three team. But there's Colorado and there's Dallas, 550 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 7: and then there's the other teams there too. But that's 551 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 7: a tough neighborhood. But that's theirs. But this is this 552 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 7: is a great test coming off the Columbus game to 553 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 7: see if the Kraken won't break down and just stay 554 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 7: true to their consistency and how they want to play 555 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 7: and that cave into panic and try to score. If 556 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 7: you try to score the wrong way against this team, 557 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 7: they will be game over. 558 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: Trust me right right if you if you try to 559 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: cheat the system, they will come back and bite you. 560 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: We've seen that over and over and over with this 561 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 3: Winnipeg team. Well dinner with that, Zoe's all done. We 562 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 3: have showed this up enough as well, and Johnny and 563 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 3: broadcast terms nine to seven o'clock. Let's see, shall we 564 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: looking forward to it? Thanks again, my man, yep. 565 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 7: Great to be back in town. Look forward to the 566 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 7: next few games now. I don't think I miss a 567 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 7: game with the Kraken for three four weeks now, which 568 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 7: is great, and look forward to it. And let's just 569 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 7: hope that this continues. And again it's it's it can 570 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 7: be frustrating, and I think that's the one message I 571 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 7: want to leave with everybody is that the style of 572 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 7: play can be frustrating, but it's a good way to play. 573 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 7: It is a good way to place it the right 574 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 7: way to play, and Lane knows this and you just 575 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 7: got to trust it. 576 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: For now, all right, Johnny, You're the best. Appreciate as always, 577 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: John Forsland tvp IF. I play voice of course on 578 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: the KRACK and Hockey Network NHL on TNT, Amazon Prime 579 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: as well hanging out with us here. The krakeing in 580 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: matchup two coming up against Winnipeg Jets have always been 581 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: a tough out. The Crack and record right now three 582 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: six and four and that three nothing win they had 583 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: over Winnipeg in the first matchup of the year, the 584 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: Cracking had two empty net goals plus also Joey de 585 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: Kordad thirty two saves in net for the win. We'll 586 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: see if the Kraken had to approach this similar or 587 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: differently against Winnipeg tonight. Also there look at to even 588 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 3: their record at home right now with just one win 589 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 3: unfortunately in six tries, yet forcing overtime on three separate occasions, 590 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 3: with Winnipeg eventually settling for an OT point. Jordan Everley 591 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: right now leads the Kraken against Winnipeg, had to headline 592 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: time in scoring with twenty one points in thirty games. 593 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: He leads the. 594 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: Cracking right now with five goals on the season, all 595 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: have come at even strength. So the Kracking looking to 596 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 3: make it two wins and two tries against Winnipeg, who 597 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: was out to a great start so far this season. 598 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: We'll talk more about it this evening at six point 599 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: thirty for pregame coverage served up by Frost Brewed Corps 600 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: Light Choose Chill opening face off a little past seven 601 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: o'clock Pacific time. EVERGA fits you Al Koniski of course 602 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: on the call. I'll join you of course for pregame, 603 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: intermission and postgame coverage. As always, we certainly hope that 604 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 3: you can join us. Big thank you again to John 605 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: Forslund and for kracking this morning. I'm Mike Benton. Enjoy 606 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 3: the game and have a happy Thursday. 607 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: You're home for the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point 608 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: three kjr FM