1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: There. Let's keep rolling six twenty one on a Thursday 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: night at Long Necks in Hebrew, the Cincinnati, tex Resolution 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: powered by Tope Show and round Table Show. It's presented 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: by Postman Law a Lance but Calister Rocky Boyman Rocker 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: opening thoughts on Joe Burrow that plays into our hot 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: topic around the NFL this week, brought to you by 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: Hudson Oil, fueling champions on and off the field. Let's 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: continue that hot topic conversation with our next guest. Oh, 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: what a week it's been for him covering the Bengals 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: for c ands since he with the Wide dot Com 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: host of the Jungle War podcast on YouTube. I can 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: tell by his reaction. I hit the nail on the 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: head Mike Petralia, how are you in a busy week 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: I'm outside an adult Uh well, I shouldn't say adult boy, 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: that's uh. 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: I wanted to. 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 2: Say I'm outside an establishment in Loveland. 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact. 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: Oh, hearing Aerosmith's Draymond, how appropriate with the Patriots in 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: town this weekend one of Boston's finest bands. Of course, 22 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 2: one of my very favorite songs of all time playing 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: in the background as I speak to you, gentlemen, and 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know. 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was gonna So that was the question 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: was going to be, what what do your tea leaves 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: tell you about this situation with Joe Burrow. 28 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, I go back and forth every maybe fifteen to 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Yes, no, yes, no, maybe maybe yes no. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 2: I would say at this point, yes he plays simply 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: because I don't think the Bengals would list him full 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: participation and go through the first team reps. And I 33 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: think the strongest indication and if you check it out 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: on my x page, the comments from t Higgins this 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: afternoon about the look he gave T Higgins when t 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: asked Joe if he were playing this weekend. It was 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: a look and te later told us I took that 38 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: look as a positive meaning yeah, I'm playing. 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: T Higgins, you know, made it clear later in the 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: interview that he doesn't know for sure one way or another. 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Only Joe knows that. 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: But if you ask me right now on Thursday evening, 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: three days before the game, I think Joe Burrow is 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: going to try and go out and play for this reason. 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: If the Bengals win the game. They are four and 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: seven with a chance to go into Baltimore and still 48 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: have a you know, a relevant shot at making a 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: run in the AFC. 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: North with a win in Baltimore. 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 2: To lose the game, and whatever Joe Burrow does on 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Thursday night in Baltimore means nothing in terms of the 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: team's playoff chances going forward. 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: Well, in Tragie Lance and I were just saying, I 55 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: find it hard to believe they would give up valuable 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: practice reps and there's not like you get, you know, 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: thousands of them during the course of a week. You 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: know they would put Joe Burrow in on those reps 59 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 4: and not another quarterback unless Burrow was playing. But let 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: me ask you this, has there been any other medical 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: updates on Joe Burrow or is he on what he's 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: going to be wearing anything like that. 63 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: And the only thing we know is what Burrow told 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: us two Mondays ago, and that was that he's going 65 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: to have some instrument in his left shoe to protect 66 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: the tendon that was repaired below his left big toe. 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: That's all we know. 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: I will tell you that he looks like he's. 69 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: Moving around really well. 70 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: In the practice and he's throwing those off platform throws 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: where he's leaning one way and throwing the other. 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: He looks good doing that, and so take that for 73 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: what you will. We don't get to see the practice. 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: It's really important to understand that the practices in terms 75 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: of the eleven and eleven work which he began this week, 76 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: are closed to the media. Ted Carris reminded that reminded 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: us of that this afternoon in the locker room. So 78 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: you don't know what we're doing in practice, and we're 79 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: not about to tell you right now. 80 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: Traggs is I'm trying to figure out how to say 81 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: this is Is this all about Joe being ready or 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: is there any element of it being Joe Flacco isn't 83 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: going to be ready? Do you know what I'm saying 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: is this is all I did Burrow. It's not necessity 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: because of Flacco. 86 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Correct. 87 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: I think it's eighty percent having Joe Burrow ready, and okay, 88 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is ready to go, then he's ready to go. 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: Twenty percent is yeah, Joe Flacco's banged up and they 90 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: would rather have I think Joe Burrow available. If he's available, 91 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 2: then Jake browning at this point and that's not meant 92 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: to be shot at Jake Browning. It is what it is. 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 2: They would rather have Burrow available. I will tell you this, 94 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: and I think it's important to keep this in mind 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, the roster manipulation going into 96 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: the weekend. You are not activating Joe Burrow to be 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco's backup. You are activating Joe Burrow if you 98 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: do to start him on Sunday. 99 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: Against New England. That would be my you know Nicol 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: and dime kind of GM analysis. 101 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: There that in roster evaluation analysis that if he's going 102 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 2: to be activated, he's going to start and play against 103 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: New England. 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: All right, guys know Jamar Chase. So what's Zach Taylor said? 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: What have you maybe seen it practice? Who's going to 106 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: fill that role? 107 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: So that's a great question. Uh, you know, you move 108 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: everybody up one. 109 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: T Higgins becomes the one, Andre Yo Sibosch becomes the two, 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: and then you're looking at I think at mix Tinsley. 111 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: They really trust Mitchell Tinsley uh to fill in that 112 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: role as the third receiver in the offense. They've loved 113 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: his work ethic, the way he's you know, put his 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: nose to the grindstone ever since training camp. He didn't 115 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: have a spot on the roster. He earned it and 116 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: they love his attitude and I would expect Mitchell Tinsley 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: to step into that role pretty fluidly. In terms of 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: what could be behind Tinsley, You're looking at Charlie Jones, 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: who also obviously has kick return and punt return responsibilities. 120 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: And then what about Jermaine Burton. Is this the moment 121 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: where he perhaps gets an opportunity to step into the 122 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 2: role of, you know, an extra receiver on the roster 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: or not. And I think it'll be very telling if 124 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: he's activated Sunday or if he's not activated in terms of. 125 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: What his role is on the team going forward. 126 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: Treg's We obviously know the Bengals have a lot of 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: work to improve this defense by next season. You've written 128 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: about the Patriots who did a quick one offseason jolt 129 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: of a turnaround of their defense. 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: How have they gone about doing it well. 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: They've brought in I believe it is Land, six free agents, 132 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: two of which have played for Mike Brabole before. They've 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: done it up and down, up and down the defense. 134 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: One defensive lineman to go along with Christian Barmore, who 135 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: Bengal fan should keep a very close eye on Sunday. 136 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: He's one of the best defensive players on that team, 137 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: no question. Then they remade their linebacking corps, which I 138 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: think the Bengals really need to think about doing this year. 139 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not trying to trash the rookies Demetrius 140 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: Knight Junior and Barrett Carter by any stretch, but those 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: two need two or three veterans in alongside them to 142 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: help them grow and not have everything thrown on their shoulders. 143 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: The Patriots did that this year with their linebacking corps. 144 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: And then they have a new safety and they have 145 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: a new cornerback, and they just completely remade their attitude, 146 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: remade their roster. They have a fly to the ball mentality, 147 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: very aggressive Mike Rabele's defense. They like the blitz and 148 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: you can see a little bit of that on Sunday. 149 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: But they are the best run stopping team in the 150 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: National Football League, allowing just over eighty four yards a game. 151 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: All right, Trags, you're all over all of this that 152 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: is unfolding with the Bengals. Tell listeners how they can read, 153 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: watch it and follow along. 154 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 2: All right online celns Sincy with a y dot com. 155 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: You can see my latest story on whether or not 156 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow will play and reading the tea Leaves as 157 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: you put at Lance that's up there now online. You 158 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: can also check out all my locker room interviews, including 159 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: today's interview with t Higgins that is up on the 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 2: X at Trags t R A GF and of course 161 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: my YouTube page for the Jungle War Bengals postgame pod 162 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: along with Richard Skinner of Local twelve that is at 163 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: YouTube dot com Slash Jungle. 164 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: Rar Odd And I would add to that your Bengals 165 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: apology letter story you wrote c l n S since 166 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: you with the y dot com was superb and a 167 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: must read. 168 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: Very well done. I appreciate, appreciate you Lance. 169 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for saying that you are too kind. 170 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: I have a great night, Trags. We'll talk. 171 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: Uh, we'll be in touch because well, I got to 172 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: see if you can talk on Wednesday or not because 173 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: we're not here on Thursday. Say no, well my people 174 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: will talk with your people. 175 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: How's that rocky? You know me? Well? 176 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: Thanks Drags. 177 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: Bye,