1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The NFL Free agency is basically Black Friday for billionaires, 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: except everyone's fighting over a tackle instead of a TV. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Keep it here for the latest signings by the Orange 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: and Black. ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Vangels. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: All right, Bearcats are making this more difficult than it 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: needs to be. They're up five under four media timeout 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: in Kansas City, sixty three fifty eight, three thirty eight 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: to go. 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm living and dying with this game. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a very quick backstory here, not 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: take up too much of his time because he's busy. 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: He's in Goodyear covering the Reds. I'm stealing Charlie Goldsmith today. 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: And when I say I'm stealing him, he's always on 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: with Tony and Austin and so like you know, they 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: they've got their folks that they have on and we 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: have our folks that we have on. And I've told 18 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Charlie this before. I'm jealous because Charlie is awesome at 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: what he does he has. I'm just I'm gonna point 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: this out. If you subscribe to his newsletter, you know 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: this Arlie's chalkboard. Between yesterday, shortly after twelve o'clock in today. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: He's cranked out six pieces on Hunter Green, who we're 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: going to talk about, on what the Bengals have done 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: so far in free agency, what the Bengals still may 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: do in free agency. He's written about the Bullpen. He's 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: written about Ellie de la Cruz six pieces. There are 27 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: people who cover other teams like, you're lucky if you 28 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: get like three pieces during the week, So subscribe to 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: his newsletter. Tony and Austin are off tomorrow because the 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: UK basketball, and if the Wildcats keep winning, they'll be 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: off on Thursday. They'll be off on Friday. And I 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: said to myself, you know what, screw it. Charlie's they're 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: not going to have time to have him on this week. 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 2: He wrote the Hunter Green piece I want to talk about, 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 2: we're getting Charlie on and so Charlie, it's awesome to 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: have you. Good afternoon, Thank you for doing this. How's goodyear. 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: It's great. I'm watching the fair Casts game run along 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: with you right now? 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: All right? 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: Well, if I get mad and say things I shouldn't 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: say and we have to bleep the segment, my apologies 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: in advance. It's awesome to have of you. Is there 43 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 2: a disconnect between Hunter Green and the Reds. 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: It's something that I know is a really important question. 45 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: So if there's something I've spent a lot of time 46 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: working on, I think the best way to say is 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: that is for anything that Bread or Hunter would act, 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 4: what I've been on both is that there's nothing happening here. 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: Hunt, Charlie, I gotta, I gotta. 50 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: I got a rotten connection, And what you're saying is important. 51 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: So let's let me see if we can reset here. 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Is there a disconnect between the Reds and Hunter Green. 53 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: It's an important question. It's something I've spent and I 54 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 4: think the best way I can stay that there's nothing 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: on each side, and I've checked on either side led 56 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: to any sort of action. The Hunter leading the rotation, 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: Hunter not being happy with the Reds, and he pitches 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 4: for That's the most important thing to me. That Hunters 59 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: guys who's gone through his own process medically in the 60 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: you know, including this time getting the injection for Ela 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: Trosh's recommendation. Hunter is not the guy in the clubhouse. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: That's the I mean, he's not Brent Suitor, you know, 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: he's not Joey Vadu in the middle of the clubhouse 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: that everyone gravitation. He's a huge part of kind of 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: the friendship group that is the rotation. So for all 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: those concerns, there have been freezing for me to ask 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 4: me questions. But I don't see any action coming from it. 68 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: All Right, Hank Tight what we're gonna do is we're 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna call you back. I'm gonna try to 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: get a better connection. That was better, But Terrence, if 71 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: you can get Charlie back on something that isn't being 72 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: interrupted nearly as much. Charlie Goldsmith has written about the 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: Hunter Green situation at his Chalkboard newsletter, which Charlie's Chalkboard 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: at Substack is free and it's awesome, and it's in 75 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: depth and if you love the Reds and Bengals, Charlie's 76 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: coverage is extraordinarily in depth and comprehensive. 77 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: You heard Charlie talk about slow. 78 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: Playing in injury, and I think what we wonder now 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: is like, is is that going to be happening here 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: as it relates to what he's dealing with right now 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: at the moment. By the way, it says sixty eight 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: to sixty one in favor of Cincinnati two thirteen to go, 83 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: Bearcat's up seven. U Utah has called a time out 84 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: with the basketball trailing by seven points. Tarn is efforting 85 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith back with us. By the way, we're gonna 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: go to us Seattle and learn about boy a Mafe 87 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: coming up in just about twelve minutes. 88 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: All right, Charlie, let me hear you. How do you 89 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: sound now? 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: Bearcats are up seven with seventeen on the street watching. 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: All right? Amazing? 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: So you talk about last year, you know, there were 93 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: the the insinuations that maybe Hunter wasn't doing everything the 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: Reds wanted to when it came to the injury that 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: that kept him out for a couple of months. So like, 96 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: now is there an assumption that he's gonna slow play 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: it again, that he's not necessarily going to be on 98 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: the same page at the Reds? Like, how do we 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 2: expect now this injury situation to play out well? After 100 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: what he and the team went through with each other last. 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: Year, this is a much different injury situation than anything 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: he's dealt with with the comedy John he had when 103 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 4: prospect And that's where this cut dropt Elbows spelling in 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 4: twenty four and one grain strain last year and the 105 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: hip slash sitting in twenty three like those were tougher 106 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 4: in to the bottom up for one hundred even feel 107 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 4: like he knew exactly this is what it was. This 108 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: is an injury where he knows exactly what it is. 109 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 4: You get a procedure and Ford, I understand there's a 110 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: set timeline, and I don't get the sense that the 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: Reds want Hunter to rush back, but obviously you know 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: timeline is clearer than it was last year. But this 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: injury does feel different way that maybe is the more 114 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: positive in that regard. 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: Uh, does it feel like this is something that he 116 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: just should have had done when last year came to 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: a conclusion. 118 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: That's a really good question. I don't want to thank 119 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: for sure, Yes, but there's who am my recommendation of 120 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: process and that's a consistent theme and trend throughout his career. 121 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: And it's been different than what other pitchers have gone 122 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: through in the Reds organization. But he had something going 123 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: wrong and he dealt with it with an X and 124 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: maybe he would be in a different states to be 125 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 4: different decision, Butter and his teammate, they're dealing with them. 126 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: You talk about Hunter and his team and the Reds 127 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: have their team, Like does there need to be And 128 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: this kind of gets back to the original question, does 129 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: does there need to be more collaboration between the two 130 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: when it comes to Hunter's health. 131 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 4: Yes, that's tough. You know, it's tough. That's a tough 132 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: one to answer. It's a tough thing to tell a guy. Hey, 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 4: I know you have this docu, this team that you worked, 134 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 4: and the Reds obviously have have guys they trust as well. 135 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: The Reds Strutt Delatross, Delatros is a great has a 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: great reputation as well. But the million dollar question here 137 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: is why Hunter just didn't have the over and something's 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: gonna have to answer. 139 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: There was there was conjecture about a possible Hunter of 140 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Green trade this past offseason. Well this maybe not during 141 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: the season, but seven months from now, eight months from now, 142 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: kind of revitalize that conjecture. 143 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: I don't think so well. I was getting at the 144 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 4: answer of my connection and my service was for the 145 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: fact that I don't see anything here having a tangible 146 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: impact on super emphathy. But with hunting the Reds and 147 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: him wanting to Red and Reds wanting him leaving their rotates, 148 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: you know if the Reds to get a superstar center 149 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 4: fielder with seven years of team control. You know, no 150 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: one's untradeable, but the Reds value Hunter and that's been 151 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: a consistent team. Hasn't changed when I considering this injury. 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: Is there more a sense of exasperation with Hunter or 153 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: relief that the procedure will not have to be a 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: season ender. 155 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: I don't know they've ever been firstrated. It's kind of 156 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: just some very matter of fact tone today in a 157 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: way where it had been vaguer in the past with him. 158 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: So again, I feel like this year is better than 159 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: its based on specific years. 160 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: Charlie will let you watch the end of this Bearcat game. 161 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: I think you have like two or three more newsletters. 162 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: You've got a podcast with Paul and Jay tonight, so 163 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: I know you have a lot going on. We appreciate 164 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: you jumping on on short notice. Thanks both, You're the best. 165 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith subscribed to his newsletter. It's at substack Charlie's chalkboard. 166 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Charlie calling is from the moon apparently, which I tried. 167 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: I tried to make it work. I tried. I know, 168 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: like the no fault to Charlie's it happens. It's it's 169 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 2: happened with me, It's happened to all of us. You 170 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: get a bad connection to steal, We steal like Tony 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: and Austin's guy, and what we get, that's what we get. 172 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: That's karma. 173 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: We steal Tony and Austin's guy and he joins us 174 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: on a bad connection and we called him pseudo last minute. 175 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 3: We could have made him do it on Zoo. 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: There is I know, there's nothing as a listener that's 177 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: more makes you more uncomfortable than hearing somebody talk to 178 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: someone on the phone who has a bad connection. There's 179 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: nothing as a host that makes me more uncomfortable as 180 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: Utah hits a corner three to make it a three 181 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: point game or four point game? 182 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: I guess was that not a corner three? Was it? 183 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm complaining about Charlie's cell phone connection and trying to 184 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: watch this game. Utah is nine. Now they are gonna foul. 185 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Celestian's gonna go to the free throw line twenty nine 186 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: seconds to go. You see up four. Anyway, we appreciate 187 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: Charlie the cell phone connection like that's it is the 188 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: it is the like you can you could work your 189 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: face off to get a great guest. You can be 190 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 2: so excited and at the cell phone connection stinks. In 191 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: this day and age where we are doing some technologically 192 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: insane things, it feels like about one out of every 193 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: ten phone calls, whether it's a guest or you know, 194 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: somebody calling the show. We still struggle with but we appreciate. 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: Next time we'll do zoom or teams or one of 196 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: those things. Celestie makes the first free throw. It's now 197 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: seventy seven to sixty, seventy one to sixty six, and 198 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: it's now seventy two to sixty six, Cincinnati with a 199 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: six point lead, twenty nine seconds to go. All right, So, 200 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: lots of questions about Hunter Green, and it's the biggest 201 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 2: one is why didn't you have the procedure at the 202 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: end of the season. Why didn't you get cut on 203 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: at the end of the year when you just went 204 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: through a whole month dealing with discomfort? Could this scenario 205 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: they're dealing with right now have been avoided? And I'm 206 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: not gonna definitively say the answer is yes, but it's 207 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: a question you have to ask. And as Charlie said, there, 208 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: it's one that at some point I believe Hunter Green 209 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: is going to have to answer. Cincinnati is going to 210 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: line up six fourteen point six seconds to go. I 211 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: could taste the second round. All right, Bengals got an edge. 212 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: We'll learn about him. We'll go to Seattle chat with 213 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: one of the best sports talk radio hosts in our business. 214 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: Hopefully as a good cell phone connection. 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Traffics 225 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 6: still able to use that ramp. I'm that e zelic 226 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 6: with the traffic. This report is sponsored by star Utah. 227 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: Will try to get some Wes Miller for you before 228 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: six o'clock. Mulleger ESPN fifteen thirty. So of the two 229 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: guys the Bengals have agreed to terms with, the bigger 230 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: mystery is the guy from Seattle, boy A Mafe, who 231 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: many have compared to Trey Hendrickson from back in twenty 232 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: twenty one. I thought we'd get on somebody who's watched 233 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: like every snap of his pro career, Dave Softy Maler 234 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: from ninety three to three kjar in Seattle, right before 235 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: he goes on the air, kind enough to join us, Softy? 236 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: What's up this, Mike? 237 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 7: God? 238 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 8: Is this working? Did I just hear you say that 239 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 8: people are comparing Boye Mafe to Trey. 240 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: Hendrick No, no, no, no, no. 241 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: See from this, from this perspective, From this perspective, Ok, God, 242 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: from this perspective. 243 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 8: No, I haven't laughed at hard in weeks. 244 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 6: All. 245 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Trust me, I got I got a lot of Bengals 246 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: takes I can throw you. So when the Bengals signed 247 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, there was this kind of unknown factor right 248 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 2: you looked at the numbers. Might not have been totally overwhelmed, 249 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: but they were banking on upside. They were banking on 250 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 2: somebody who, in a different set of circumstances, might be 251 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: able to explode. Now, Is Boye mafe going to lead 252 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: the league in sacks? Probably not. Is he gonna have 253 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 2: a bunch of holdouts? 254 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: God? I hope not. 255 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: But I do think there's comparisons based on what Trey 256 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty one where it looks like there's 257 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 2: a lot of upside, but we're still asking questions because 258 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: it feels like there's still a lot of unknowns. 259 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just look, I'll just say this, first of all, great, dude, 260 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 8: boy A, really really good guy. Not going to be 261 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 8: a problem, you know. I mean all of us have 262 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 8: had issues with athletes making news for the wrong reasons, 263 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 8: and I don't think Boya is going to come anywhere 264 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 8: near that, dude. So you're getting a really good, community, 265 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 8: team minded guy that's number one, Number two. I will 266 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 8: tell you this, and I kid you not. 267 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 7: This is a true story. 268 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 8: There was a point in time about halfway through this 269 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 8: last Seahawks season, maybe call that week nine, ten, whatever, 270 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 8: where I turned to Dick Fane, who I do the 271 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 8: radio show with here in Seattle, and I asked him, Dick, 272 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 8: does boy A Mafey still play here? It's like, is 273 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 8: he on the roster? Like what is going on with 274 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 8: boy A Mafey, because boy A Mafey was a guy 275 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 8: that we actually thought was gonna maybe have a little 276 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 8: bit of a step. In twenty twenty five under Mike 277 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 8: McDonald he had nine sacks and twenty three he had six, 278 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 8: and twenty four and then kind of went away. But 279 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 8: then we kind of realized if you watch Mike McDonald's defense, 280 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 8: they played kind of that hybrid three four, Right, So 281 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 8: guys like Leonard Williams chennan Owosu, if you have a 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 8: star like Byron Murphy, obviously he's gonna get his sacks. 283 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 8: He's gonna eat a little bit in the stat sheet. 284 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 8: But for the most part, the edge is about set 285 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 8: in the edge, and that's what Boye Mafey was doing 286 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 8: a lot of here in Seattle. So in some ways 287 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 8: you kind of wonder if he might be better off 288 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 8: in a system like Cincinnati. 289 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: For a as good as. 290 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 8: Mike McDonald's defense has been, and it is unbelievable, marvelous defense, 291 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 8: the scheme is amazing. I do wonder if Boye Mafey 292 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 8: is going to flourish somewhere else besides playing here in Seattle, 293 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 8: in the shadow of guys like Byron Murphy, Leonard Williams, 294 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 8: Chennana wo Su and even some guys in the secondary 295 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 8: like Devin Witherspooning, a linebacker like Ernest Jones. But I'll 296 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 8: admit that I was very surprised, man, when the number 297 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 8: came out, twenty million dollars a year. I was like, Wow, 298 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 8: there's no part of me back in October or November 299 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 8: that thought that boy Mafe deserved twenty million. 300 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: Dollars a year. 301 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: When the confetti cleared from the Super Bowl parade, did 302 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: you guys assume he was he was gone? He was 303 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: he already being talked about in the past tense. 304 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, because what happens is, and you guys know this, 305 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 8: when you play for a Super Bowl or you win 306 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 8: a Super Bowl, everybody's resume looks a little better, right. 307 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 8: I mean, it's like when the Hawks won it in 308 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 8: twenty thirteen, all of a sudden, the Lions came in 309 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 8: and thought that Golden Tate was the Bee's knees. You know, 310 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 8: the Dolphins with guys like Byron Maxwell, and all of 311 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 8: a sudden, they're all getting overpaid. And that's kind of 312 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 8: what's going on right now. I mean, look, you know 313 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 8: Kenny Walker got fifteen million a year from Kansas City 314 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 8: based on six games. Right, Like, there was nobody in 315 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: mid December before they played the Rams on Thursday night 316 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 8: that thought that Kenny Walker was gonna get fifteen million 317 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 8: dollars a year. So once the Hawks won, everybody who 318 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 8: was a free agent, Kobe Bryant, Josh Job, Kenny Walker, Rashid. 319 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: She Head, dude Mo, Rashid. 320 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 8: Chhat didn't even have two hundred yards receiving in the 321 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 8: nine games he was here in Seattle, and he just 322 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 8: got seventeen million dollars based on what the guy can 323 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 8: do on special teams. So yeah, I think the Hawks 324 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 8: they got six or seven major free agents, and we 325 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 8: figured maybe they'll get one, maybe two of. 326 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Them back when he was on the field, right, because 327 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: it felt like, as you kind of outlined the story 328 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: of his twenty twenty five was just wasn't on the 329 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 2: field near enough when he was on the field last year, 330 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: How good was he? 331 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 8: I just was kind of a supplemental, complimentary guy. I mean, 332 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 8: this is a team that has a lot of stars 333 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 8: on it, right, I mean most of those stars were 334 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 8: created by Mike McDonald, Leonard Williams, Devin Witherspoon, Ernest Jones, 335 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 8: Byron Murphy players like that. I mean there's no first team, 336 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 8: real consensus all pro guy. Although big Cat Leonard Williams 337 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 8: was a first team guy, but outside of him, they 338 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 8: weren't chuck full of you know, all pros. This is 339 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 8: not the twenty thirteen lob right with Bobby Wagner, Richard Sherman, 340 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 8: Ear Thomas, and Cam Schancell. The star of the show 341 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 8: here in Seattle is the scheme, it really is. I 342 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 8: mean it's like they had a stretch where they lost 343 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 8: three or four guys due to injury starters and the 344 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 8: defense still kicked ass and still was, you know, taking 345 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 8: people down. So billiam Afe was never a part of 346 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 8: that group, right, That was the real reason from a 347 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 8: personnel perspective, why these guys were doing well. He was 348 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 8: always a complimentary guy that it was kind of like 349 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 8: a good baseball umpire man, and nobody really noticed him. 350 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 8: To be honest with you, you know, I wish I 351 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 8: can come on the air and tell you more about 352 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 8: the kind of player he is and how impactful he was. 353 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 8: Every now and then he'll he'll know, bat a pass 354 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 8: down every now and then he'll you know, take up 355 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 8: a couple of blockers and open up a blitzing lane 356 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 8: for a guy like Devin Witherspoon, for example. He saw 357 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 8: a lot of that in the Super Bowl. By the way, 358 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 8: go back and watch that game. But that's what he 359 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 8: was here in Seattle. He was never a primary guy. 360 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 8: He was never a guy that they would get after 361 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 8: the quarterback with. He was never a guy that could 362 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 8: count on for a consistent pass rush. He was always 363 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 8: a guy that would do things to set up other 364 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 8: players to make plays. And I'm wondering Cincinnati has to 365 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 8: see the speed. Obviously, guys fast got some speed, and 366 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 8: they got to look at him as more than just 367 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 8: a complimentary guy, because otherwise there's no way they're giving 368 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 8: him twenty millions unless they're stupid. 369 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: Well that may be the case. 370 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I spent my entire life wondering why the 371 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: Bengals do so many stupid things. But I certainly believe 372 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: they see the speed on the upside. By the way, 373 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: I appreciate you saying to me when you made your 374 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: comparison to the Seahawks, and here's what all the players 375 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: that win, he said, Ah, you know this, Actually I 376 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 2: have no idea I want to be in your shoes 377 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: one day, So I know, I don't know, but thanks 378 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: thanks for playing along and pretending that I will. 379 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 8: You know what it's like, you know what it's like 380 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 8: to participate in a super Bowl. That's why I said 381 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 8: playing one or with one. 382 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: You know. 383 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 8: Look, I mean there's a lot of people who's face 384 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 8: side rubbing the dirt in this business and you're not 385 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 8: one of them. But you know what, you also have 386 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 8: a world series, my friend, and we have no idea 387 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 8: what that's all. 388 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: I was in the eighth grade, so it almost doesn't count, right, Yeah, 389 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: that's fair. 390 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: That's fair. 391 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 2: WAYA got au Hainio Suarez from you, that's you know, 392 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: that's kind of more excited about him. 393 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 8: No, I was five and a half when the Sonics 394 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 8: won the NBA title, all right, So the Seahawks winning 395 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 8: in twenty thirteen was really my first championship. And yeah, 396 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 8: getting Geno back, man, I mean, good for you guys. 397 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 8: I mean, Gino is a phenomenal guy. But they just 398 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 8: needed to get something more consistent at third base. And 399 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 8: they've got obviously Brendan Donovan as you know, coming in 400 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 8: from the from the Cardinals to take Geno's spot. But 401 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 8: that at home running hitting Game five, man, that grand 402 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 8: slam to right field. Uh, you know, I wish it 403 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 8: meant more. I wish it meant you know, a trip 404 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 8: to the World Series. But at the time we thought 405 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 8: that grand slam to right field in Game five may 406 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 8: have been the biggest hitting Mariner history, and it certainly 407 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 8: is one of them, but never was able to materialize 408 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 8: into something bigger and better because the Ems went to 409 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 8: Toronto and fell apart for two and now. 410 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Your players are fighting against each other in the World 411 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: Baseball class and so it's spring. 412 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: You know what. 413 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 8: That old thing got overblown but big. 414 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: Time, by the way, So yeah, well we'll see. I 415 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: know you got a show to do, man, Thanks. 416 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 8: So much, all right, anytime guys see it. 417 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: One of the absolute best. Dave Salty Maler for Softy 418 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: Maller from KJAR in Seattle. 419 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: I've appeared in his show before. He has never appeared 420 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: on my. 421 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: By the way, great great phone connection, great phone connection 422 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: there in Seattle. Five thirty sports headlines. Maybe here from 423 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: west Miller, maybe here from you five one, three, seven, four, nine, 424 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: fifteen thirty lots going on. 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At least, 442 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: that's the expectation. This and the aftermath of finding out 443 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: last week did he dealing with elbow discomfort? Hunter's teammates 444 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: are playing today a talking stick against the Rockies. Three 445 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: good innings from Brandon Williamson, struck out three, did not 446 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: give up a run, only one hit. Cincinnati on top 447 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 2: of the Rockies has seven to nothing to score. Will 448 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: Benson his fourth home run of the spring, his third 449 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: that's actually left the park. 450 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: TJ. Friedel went deep his first of the spring. PJ. 451 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: Higgins also hit a home run. Tell you what, Both 452 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 2: JJ Bleda and Will Benson have had quality springs, and 453 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Lowe's production this year in spring has been encouraging 454 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: as well. Those are good things. The Hunter Green development 455 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: not so much. No major Bengals injury news today in 456 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: the aftermath to finding out what they did yesterday. They 457 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: need a linebacker, get one of the linebackers signed leoshanal 458 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: You signed those three dudes on top of what other 459 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: complimentary pieces they acquire in free agency, which they're not 460 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: going to solve their defense of tackle problem in free agency. 461 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: I agree with what Danner talked about in the first hour, 462 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: like third corner is still a need. Shouldobi a Woozy 463 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: as a third corner I think would be awesome. That's 464 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: still a need And it's like one of the reasons 465 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: why I thought Kobe Bryant might make a little bit 466 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: more sense than Brian Cook was. If you're leaning into versatility, 467 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: He's a guy you can put in the slot. 468 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 3: He's got corner experience. 469 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: With Brian Cook, you are getting a safety, you are 470 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: getting a tackle. The dude in play center field safety 471 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: thrilled with it. But they could still use some help 472 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: at corner. We will see, we will see. If you 473 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: miss Danner in the first hour, We'll have a podcast 474 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: as soon as the show is over on the iHeartRadio. 475 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: At college Hoops, Uce wins in the opening round of 476 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: the Big twelve Tournament, knocking off Utah. Game that was 477 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more uncomfortable than it needed to be, 478 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: but they do survive in advance, seventy three to sixty six. 479 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 3: The final score. 480 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: Cincinnati got to fourteen from Mustafa cham eleven from Bob 481 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: and Meller. Bearcats will play UCF roughly at three o'clock 482 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: in the second round. I think the prevailing sentiment is 483 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: one that at least I agree with, that they've got 484 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: to win three games. I would find it. I would 485 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: be stunned if they made it and only won two. 486 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: There's seemingly no chance that just winning ones enough. Today 487 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: was a Q three game right now in the net 488 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: UCF is a Q two game because they're fifty one 489 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: in the net top fifty neutral sites a Q one game. 490 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 2: I'd be really surprised if they only won two and 491 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: found their way in, but they did get some help. 492 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: Stanford lost game, had a great ending against Pittsburgh today, 493 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 2: and so it feels like the Cardinal are effectively eliminated. 494 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: Our guy Hunter sands on the NKY bracket, I as 495 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: Stanford is out for good with that loss today. The 496 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: final score in that game was sixty four to sixty three. 497 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: Could also use an SMU loss. SMU is playing against 498 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: Syracuse in the ACC Tournament. That game, the Mustangs have 499 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: a forty three to forty lead with just over seventeen 500 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: minutes to go. I'm looking at our guy Hunter Sandsum's 501 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: later latest projection. 502 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: He had Stanford. 503 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: As an eleven seed right now, so very much clearly 504 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: on the bubble. Another bubble team that is an action 505 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: in the ACC Tournament tonight is Virginia Tech. They will 506 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: take on wag Forest. By the way, I didn't mention 507 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: this the other game earlier today in the Big twelve 508 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: tournament Arizona State in what felt like a possible swan 509 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: song for Bobby Hurley. They won today, so he's gonna 510 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: get at least one more game. Arizona State knocked off 511 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: Baylor eighty three to seventy nine. The Sun Devil's advance 512 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: to take on Iowa State tomorrow. 513 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: Tonight. 514 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: Wright State has a chance to win the Horizon League 515 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: Tournament with a game against Detroit. That game in Indianapolis, 516 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 2: a game last night against NKU, for about thirty minutes 517 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: was terrific, and there was a stretch kind of late 518 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: in the first half where it felt like the Norse, 519 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to say had a chance to pull away, 520 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: but it felt like they had a chance to build 521 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: a little bit of a cushion. They were playing very well, 522 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: and obviously Wright State over the last ten minutes ran 523 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: away and kind of hid a weird season for the Norse. 524 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: And obviously what NKU does in relation to the NCAA 525 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: tournament is defined by what they do in Indy and 526 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: they won that great game against Oakland in Round one, 527 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: survived with a sixty point outburst in the second half 528 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: against Green Bay on Sunday, but a little bit of 529 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: a weird year. It felt like every time they were 530 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: about to get going, they would stop, for lack of 531 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: a better way of putting it. 532 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 3: Hockey. 533 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: Tonight, the Blue Jackets skate against Tampa Bay the college 534 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: basketball tomorrow, there's a ton of local games. 535 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 3: Tomorrow. 536 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: Kentucky is going to take on LSU, which will bump 537 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: since E three sixty for a day and maybe even 538 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: for two, and maybe even for three based on how 539 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 2: long the Wildcats keep going. Xavier plays tomorrow in the 540 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 2: Big East Tournament, obviously UC and UCF at three o'clock, 541 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: and then later on this week, starting on Thursday at 542 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: eleven am. Miami and I was not here yesterday the 543 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 2: Miami Ohio U game. And I say this, I'm not 544 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: a hyperbolegue guy. I don't say things I genuinely don't believe. 545 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: And what has been an awesome season of college basketball games. 546 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: And say what you want. 547 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: About the other issues that swirl around the sport, with 548 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: the stakes, with the setting, with the caliber of the game. 549 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: Miami and OU on Friday night is the best college 550 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: basketball game I've watched this year. And that's I'm rooting 551 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: for the RedHawks to get to the tournament. I'll root 552 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 2: for them once they get there. What Travis Steel has 553 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: done has been really fun to watch. It's cool watching 554 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: Miami get a ton of attention nationally, I think just 555 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: given the the entirety of that game, the crowd, which 556 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the breakdown of the crowd was, 557 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: it did feel like there were a fair amount of 558 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 2: Miami fans there. But I know what that would have 559 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: meant for folks who love ou to derail Miami's perfect season. 560 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: To the way the game was played, to the sense of, 561 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: oh no, what happens if they don't get in to 562 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: some of the high level plays in that game, to 563 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: just the drama down the stretch. That's best college basketball 564 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: game I've watched all season long. And it was in 565 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: Arizona with buddies on a spring training trip talking about 566 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: that game on Saturday, and we were discussing what the 567 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: fall out would have been had Miami lost, and discussing 568 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: the fact that it certainly does feel like, even if 569 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: they stub their toe in the MAC Tournament, that they're 570 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: going to have their name called. Now you certainly would 571 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: advise against losing on Thursday in Round one of the 572 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: Mid American Tournament, but that game was a game was something. 573 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: That game was something, and one of the things we 574 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: were discussing was what it had to have been like 575 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: to be standing at the free throw line knowing that 576 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: an undefeated season is on the line against that crowd. 577 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: And Peter Souter made those two free throws, and he 578 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: has been terrific all season long. Twelve seconds to go 579 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: in ot and you've got to make those free throws, 580 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 2: and if you don't, it's possibly an undefeated season up 581 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: in smoke, and then a whole lot of uncertainty about 582 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 2: your NCAA tournament for fortunes. He makes them. Oh you 583 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: misses the shot, Miami wins. Just a great game, a great, great, 584 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: great game. And congratulations to a. Travis Steel for what 585 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: he has done with that program. It is been really 586 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: really fun to watch. All Right, we can talk to 587 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: other folks. We have been super super busy today. Doug 588 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: and Anderson. You're on ESPN fifteen thirty Doug, good afternoon, 589 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: how are you. 590 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 7: Oh'm fantastic most and outside on this beautiful day, smoking 591 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 7: a little cigar after work, having a little sip sip 592 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 7: and listening to you as usual. 593 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: You cannot beat that, except for the listening to me, Barbara, 594 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: go ahead. 595 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 7: I have a quick one for you. I want to 596 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 7: put something on your radar. So everybody, I'm a fan 597 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 7: of the Miami Hurricanes since nineteen eighty three. I lived Cincinnati, Ohio. 598 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 7: I'm also a very very big Bearcat fan. I just 599 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 7: have two teams. 600 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 3: That's cool. 601 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 7: I lived down there for nine years, so became a 602 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 7: fan in the early eighties when they won the first 603 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 7: national championship. Anyway, I've watched every game this year, and 604 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 7: everybody is overlooking a keen Mesador. I'm telling you, the 605 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 7: dude is edge six three two eighty. He has more 606 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 7: sacks and more tackles than Baine. He is a stud. 607 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 7: He is a stud and if he if he's in 608 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 7: the draft, the Bengals gotta get him. 609 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think right now I looked at and I 610 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: don't have this in front of me. It might have 611 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: been Dave Brugler from the Athletic who had him. I 612 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: believe is the fourth best edge in the class. So 613 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody nationally is overlooking him. I 614 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: think the fascination with Bain, Like, let's be honest, more 615 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: folks watch Miami in the National title game, than watched 616 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: any other Hurricanes game and Ruben Bain was here at least, 617 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: and Ruben Bain was awesome in that game, and so 618 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: there is some recency bias. But uh, yeah, you're right. 619 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see where he is on the Bengals board. 620 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: It kind of feels like with what happened with Bain's arms, 621 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: there's a pretty decent chance he's there at ten, and 622 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: if they have him ranked higher than Mesidor, then they're 623 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: going to take Baine. But you know, we'll see what 624 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: they've done in the draft or in free agency how 625 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: that informs what they've done in the draft. But I 626 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 2: would like to think that the Bengals are not overlooking 627 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: the guy that is regarded by some evaluators as the 628 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: fourth or fifth best edge rusher. 629 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 9: Yeah. 630 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 7: Well, I mean Bain got all the national attention. Like 631 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 7: every game I watched, especially the nationally televised games, it 632 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 7: was ban Baying, Baying Bain, and then meanwhile, Mesador's over 633 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 7: there getting as many pressures as many sacks. And you know, 634 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 7: I said to my son, who we watched games with 635 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 7: all the time, he looks like Shrey Hendrickson, except for 636 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 7: he also makes a lot of cackles. 637 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 638 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, he did have two sacks 639 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: in the national title game. 640 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 7: Yes, he's a dude. Man, He's just he's a low 641 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 7: key guy. He's just under the radar. But I'm telling 642 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 7: you that guy is going to be somebody who's great 643 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 7: ed rusher. 644 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: We've got him on the radar. Doug enjoyed the cigar man, 645 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 646 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 7: Thank you man. 647 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: All Right, this is really cool of him to do. 648 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: But because he has stuff to do for his employer, 649 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: but he's kind enough to join us from Kansas City, 650 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: where the Bearcats have advanced in the Big Twelve tournament. 651 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 2: Scott Springer from The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com Scott, 652 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: that was a little bit uncomfortable towards the end, but 653 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: I never completely felt like the game was that much 654 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: in doubt. 655 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 3: What was the vibe in Casey, Yeah, kind of the same. 656 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 10: You know, Terrence Brown goes nuts there toward the end, 657 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 10: but you're thinking, you know, maybe finally you see hits 658 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 10: a free throw here late, and they made enough late. 659 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 10: They sent a ten out of eighteen, so they didn't 660 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 10: make one more free throw than they did three pointer. 661 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 10: But yeah, they at one point they were like one 662 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 10: out of six from the stripe and it was an 663 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 10: awful day free throw shooting. And then the game starts, 664 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 10: you know, fifteen to six, you're going, okay, does somebody 665 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 10: make a coffee run here? 666 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: What's going on? 667 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 10: And then they kick it in gear and they looked 668 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 10: like the Bearcats. So those should have been thirty one 669 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 10: to twenty a half because keisch Antillery shot the ball 670 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 10: too early on the very last shot, otherwise had a layup. 671 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 10: But yeah, game of runs. Give you talk credit that 672 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 10: you know they're not good record wise, they probably in 673 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 10: another league, are halfway decent in the middle of it, 674 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 10: but welcome to the Big twelve. It's crazy. And now 675 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 10: you get UCF again tomorrow who you split with, and 676 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 10: Misstapha Chum gets to play his old guys again and 677 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 10: Jesse James probably looking forward to that game. And so 678 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 10: you're you're allowed to play another day and see what 679 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 10: happens because you certainly don't know. 680 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: Is there a sense that they have to win three 681 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 2: in Kansas City to have a chance on selection someday? 682 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 10: I have heard that. I don't know. Well, I mean, 683 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 10: let let's face it, if you be the Arizona which 684 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 10: would be your third game. 685 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: How can you not be in at that point. 686 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 10: That's a shoe win to me. You turn some heads 687 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 10: if you win tomorrow and then maybe play Arizona. Okay, 688 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 10: but I'm not on the selecting committee and nor would 689 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 10: they ever consider to have me on one. But yeah, 690 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 10: they still have work to do. You know, just beating 691 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 10: Utah I was not really impressing anyone nationwide. It's just 692 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 10: the fact that you've survived a game. Now you go 693 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 10: back a couple of years ago. Here they played a 694 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 10: not so good West Virginia team and it was kind 695 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 10: of nip and tuck after they had blown them ount 696 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 10: in the regular season, and it was kind of a 697 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 10: shootout game. Wasn't the previous thing. But then the next game, 698 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 10: you know, they had Kansas. They won that one by twenty. 699 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,959 Speaker 10: They led Baylor in the following game in the quarterfinals 700 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 10: at the half, so you know, this one's out of 701 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 10: the system hopefully, and then maybe they can get things 702 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 10: in beer for UCF. And UCF's kind of like, U see, 703 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 10: you don't know which UCF team you're going to get. 704 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 10: They can they're either world beaters or they just look 705 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 10: like your average you know, middle of the back team. 706 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 707 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 2: I think that was the thing for me coming into 708 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: today because for three weeks they look like one of 709 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: the best teams in the country, and then they looked 710 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: like they couldn't complete a pass against TCU. And now 711 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 2: I'm back to wondering, game in a game out, who's 712 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: going to show up? 713 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I understand. I was at the tc game 714 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 10: and it was really taken aback by all the turnovers. 715 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 10: And you know, even ask jam Me Dixon, I said, 716 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 10: did you just give a blueprint to Duc And he goes, well, 717 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 10: it was our blueprint, And you know, I thought Utah 718 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 10: played pretty decent defense on him. But in the end, 719 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 10: you get double doubles from Bobba Miller in the Sapa Chong, 720 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 10: and I think you're gonna win most of those games 721 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 10: if those two have double doubles. And Miller, you know, 722 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 10: to me, he still passes up on a lot of shots. 723 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 10: He's a great passer, but there's so many times I 724 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 10: see him get the ball inside and then they flipped 725 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 10: it back outside, and I know it's it's math threes 726 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 10: more than two, but sometimes he got a six eleven 727 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 10: seven foot guy in there for a bank shot. It's like, 728 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 10: why wouldn't you take that? 729 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 3: Uh, I know you have a lot to do. Thank 730 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 3: you for squeezing us in. 731 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: If the same opportunity presents itself tomorrow, we will not 732 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 2: say no. 733 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 10: All right, we'll see what happens. I had to work now. 734 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that, says Scott Springer, covering the Bearcats 735 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: in Kansas City for The Inquirer and Cincinnati dot Com. 736 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how long this is, but Wes Miller 737 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 2: just got done chatting with the media in Kansas City. 738 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: Here is the head coach of the Bearcats talking with 739 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 2: reporters in the aftermath of his team's opening round win. 740 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, listen, we think we tied for seventh in the league, 741 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 9: but lost the tie breaker with a couple other teams. 742 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 9: So the way I look at it, we get to 743 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 9: play today on the first day like that was. 744 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: I take it. 745 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 9: It's just blessing and I have a lot of respect 746 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 9: for Utah. Look, we played them. It feels like a 747 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 9: month ago now, But when you were doing the scout, 748 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 9: they were in every game, like they had so many 749 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 9: opportunities to win games. They were in every game, and 750 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 9: we had to play really well at home at the 751 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 9: end to come back and win, And I thought we 752 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 9: did a nice job after we got the jitters out. 753 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 9: We stayed in it with our defense in the first half. 754 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 9: Then we started rebounding and running and it was a 755 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 9: little bit of a lid on it early, but our 756 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 9: defense kept us in it. And I thought we played 757 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 9: well there for a while. And give give a we 758 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 9: push out a double figure lead, But give credit to 759 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 9: them for making a run. They haven't they haven't been 760 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 9: able to get buried all year, Like you know they're 761 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 9: gonna kind of come back and fight, and so they 762 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 9: made a nice run. It feels like Terrence Brown made 763 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 9: every mid range shot during that run, so give him 764 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 9: some credit. But I thought our guys at the under 765 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 9: four time out did a nice job of like regrouping, executing, 766 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 9: and then finding a way to get some stops, some 767 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 9: of the blocks at the basket late. 768 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 3: We're big force, coach. 769 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 4: You've talked all year about how important you're bid and 770 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: sch is. When you look at that twelve ozho run 771 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: to close the. 772 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 8: First half, how crucial was the play of key Shawn 773 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 8: Shawn and since here at both ends of the court. 774 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, I actually said that to the team in the 775 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 9: locker room just now that I thought our bench was 776 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 9: the catalyst star success tonight that run in the first half, 777 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 9: and they had some really good minutes there in the 778 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 9: second half in a run as well. So complete team 779 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 9: effort and our bench was extremely important to us winning 780 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 9: this game. 781 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: Wes Miller chatting with the assembled media in Kansas City, 782 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: you see and UCF tomorrow at three o'clock. We have 783 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: been busy today. My thanks to Tarren Bland for producing. 784 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: My thanks to you for listening. We are back tomorrow 785 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 2: at three oh five more on the Bengals and whatever 786 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: may happen. We'll also chat with our guy, doctor Jonathan 787 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: Slaughter about Hunter Green and so much more. 788 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 3: Are we go to Kentucky? Oh, that's right, we're on 789 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah late, I forgot. There's so many moving parts. 790 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: That's right, the UK Games at twelve thirty. I'm guessing 791 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 2: we'll get on the air. Tara, Let's have a contest. 792 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 2: Let's see who comes closest. Now you can rig this 793 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 2: because you produced the show. What time will our music 794 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: hit for us to go on the air tomorrow. 795 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say about three forty five, all. 796 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: Right, I'll say three thirty nine, So we're both going 797 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: to be close. They're not going to do a ninety 798 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 2: minute post game show tomorrow, right, So we'll be on 799 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 2: on roughly at three point thirty, reacting to the Kentucky game, 800 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: reacting to the Barricad game, setting up the Xavier game, 801 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: the latest on Hunter Green, and maybe the Bengals will 802 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: sign somebody else. 803 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: I certainly hope. 804 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 2: So anything you ams go find on the iHeartRadio app 805 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 2: pod our Paul Danner Junior conversations on there right now. 806 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 2: Have a great night, Thank you for listening. 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