1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: A Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Tuesday, 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: and know what a tuesday it has been. Trump to 3 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: the big press conference today. I'm not going to play 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: a lot of that. But there are a couple things 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: from Pete hag set There a couple updates on that 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: communist op. We will discuss all kinds of immigration talk. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna discuss institutional trust, institutions themselves a lot tonight 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: on the show. After that, we're gonna tackle everything from smartphones, venezuela, 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: left wing, dark money. I mean, my goodness, there's so 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: much to get to tonight. It's going to be a 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: wonderful night on the Jesse Kelly Show. Now, before we 12 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: get into anything else, anything else, we talked last night. 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: You remember about communist ops and how they create them, 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: why they create them, and it was about the Pete 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: haig Seth killing the Narco terrorists on the drug boats. 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: He ordered a second strike, and more than anything else, 17 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: we talked about how important it was that you and 18 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: I do not take part in them. We don't take 19 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: part in them. And it's not because we love or 20 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: hate the target of the communist op. We do not 21 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: take part in them. Because we understand the communist only 22 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: has our worst interests at heart. He means us harm. 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: He wants to hurt you and hurt me and hurt 24 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: our country. Therefore, whatever he's doing is bad and I 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: should not participate in it. You you don't ever want 26 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: to be Lisa Murkowski of a Last Shocked Us All. 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Armed. And I think most would say that when you 28 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: have two individuals that are literally floating in the water, 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: a second order to kill them all is not something 30 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: that we would consider within the within the rules of water, you. 31 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: Don't do what Lisa Murkowski did. And today I almost 32 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: can't believe I'm saying this, but the New York Times 33 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: printed an article that pretty much put the whole thing 34 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: to bed. I'm not going to read it all for you. 35 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Long story short. When your liberal and Peggy strolls into 36 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the Christmas party a week from now and she starts 37 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: talking about how Pete hag Seth ordered Sealed Team six 38 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: to shoot drug dealers in the head as they were 39 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: floating in the water, just know that all that's already 40 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: been shot down. A second strike is the most normal 41 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: thing in the world, meaning you nuke the boat if 42 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: the boat is still intact or still moving. You nuke 43 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: it again, you send another drone, you send another whatever 44 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: you use to get it. You do it again and 45 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: again and again until it's gone. There was no executing 46 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: prisoners as they're bobbing in the ocean. You didn't take 47 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: part in the communist op. And for that I want 48 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: you to reach your arm over your shoulder and give 49 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: yourself a nice pat on the back if you want. 50 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: You could even text a friend let them know you're 51 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: not a moron. You're not part of the low TGP. 52 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: You recognize the communist op for what it was. You 53 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: refused to participate, and twenty four hours later the lie's 54 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: been defeated. Pete Heggsath was asked about it today during 55 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: this big press Confey. 56 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: Just begun striking Narco boats and putting Narco Terrace at 57 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: the bottom of the ocean. 58 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: That is how you answer those questions as well. Now 59 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I understand based on my emails, you have many, many 60 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: questions and concerns about things like war in Venezuela, and actually, 61 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: in kind of an odd DUC move with everything else 62 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: we have to get to, I want to answer some 63 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: of those just so we can clear this up and 64 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: move on and talk about institutions and institutional trusts. For instance, 65 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: this lady said, I'm confused about what constitutes a war crime. 66 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: And she goes on says a bunch of other things, 67 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: and she says, how is it when the Trump military 68 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: tries to do something make sure the enemy is killed, 69 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: it's called a war crime instead of heroism. So let's 70 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: discuss the idea of war crimes. I think I think 71 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: maybe we should nail this down to it to its 72 00:04:53,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: most basic form. First of all, do you believe it 73 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: would be rules in more? Now? I see it's a 74 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: hard question to answer right away. Right instinctively, you want 75 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: to say yes, well, of course there should be rules 76 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: of war. You shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that. 77 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: You don't want to use this kind of weapon, you 78 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: don't want to torture people, you don't want to hurt children. 79 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: This is a question right off the bat. Everybody has 80 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: to ask themselves because the answer you instinctively give isn't 81 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: necessarily the answer you want to give. Should there be 82 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: rules and more? Well, I'll go ahead and answer it 83 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: for me personally, I believe there should be rules in war, 84 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: but I should never expect the enemy to follow said rules. 85 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: Now I didn't say what my rules were or what 86 00:05:53,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: they weren't. Why why didn't I specify. I've brought this 87 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: up before anyone who's listened to the show for a 88 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: while and those I love history, But my number one 89 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: historical obsession, it has been for years, in a decade, 90 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: is the Pacific portion of World War II, the fighting 91 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: with the Japanese and the islands and everything else. That's 92 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: just fascinated by the whole thing. And I've told you before. 93 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you can go watch documentaries on it if 94 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: you find a good one. Marines. Marines were routinely killed 95 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: and maimed by Japanese troops who faked being wounded, who 96 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: faked being dead, who faked surrendering just so they could 97 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: kill more marines and army soldiers. There were plenty of 98 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: army guys there. Eb Sledge, he wrote that wonderful book 99 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: with the Old Breed, talked about how the Japanese would 100 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: tuck a grenade under their arm pits and raise their 101 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: hands up, only they'd have the top of their arms 102 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: close to their body. And when the marine approached, you 103 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: reach out your arms, drop the grenade, you kill everybody. 104 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: So if I were to ask you, remember we have 105 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: to have this talk. If I were to ask you, hey, 106 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: should you execute someone who's surrendering, you would probably say, 107 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: like all these people would. 108 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: No, But. 109 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: How many of your friends do you have to see 110 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: die like that before you decide, Oh, there's no more surrendering. No, no, no, no, no. 111 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Everybody gets popped in the head, everybody. The Marines and 112 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: the army soldiers routinely ran into this nightmare because American 113 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: troops were at their hearts good people. They did not 114 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: want to harm women or children. The Japanese soldiers knew this, 115 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and so when the Japanese soldiers would hide in caves, 116 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: if civilians were available, they would take women they're still nursing, 117 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: babies and children into the caves with them. If you're 118 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a marine, you can't go into the cave and rescue them. 119 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: It's not possible. You'll die or your buddies will die. 120 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: You also can't leave that cave with armed Japanese troops 121 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: in it, because then they'll come out at night and 122 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: cut your buddy's throat when he's asleep. You have to 123 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: neutralize it. And so the Marines would grab satchel charges, 124 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: throw them in the caves and blow it up. Sometimes 125 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: everyone in there died instantly. Sometimes the entrance of the 126 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 1: cave would simply collapse and everyone in there would slowly 127 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: starve to death and die of thirst in the pitch black. 128 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: The men, the women, the children. Now, let me ask 129 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: you again, what are your rules for war? Don't those 130 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: quote rules? Don't they become always situationally dependent? You know, 131 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: the more powerful fighting force is always fond of rules 132 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: of war. You can't do this and you can't do that. 133 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: Sign disagreement, say you won't do that, you won't harm this, 134 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: you won't attack this way. You know why. It's the 135 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: less powerful fighting force that oftentimes violates what you and 136 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I would consider rules of war necessity. They have to. 137 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: So let's discuss and the chances this is going to offend. 138 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: You are probably pretty strong. Let's discuss the rules of 139 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: drug runners, terrorists? What should be done? How have we 140 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: been doing it? Maybe you didn't watch it on CNN. 141 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it. Next. It is the Jesse 142 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a Fantastic Tuesday. I remember you can 143 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: email the show you love, your hate, your death threats 144 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We're going to get 145 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: to institutional trust after we finish up on this little 146 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: talk here on Venezuela. So the question was about war crimes. 147 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: What are war crimes? And I just discussed with you 148 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: rules of war. Do you believe in them? What do 149 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: you believe about them? So let me explain. Let me 150 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: explain how it's always worked and how it will always work. 151 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: For instance, let's say it's Iraq. Let's you get intelligence 152 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: that there is a convoy of terrorists and they're heading 153 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: towards Bagdad. They cross the border from Syria. It's a 154 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: convoy of terrorists. There are bad guys in there. Now, 155 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: first of all, don't ever, ever, ever think to yourself 156 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: that it works like it does in the movies where 157 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: one guy reports to you, Hey, I think there are 158 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: some terrorists in there, and then you and a bunch 159 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: of helicopters and bombs and bullets you roll out and 160 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: just go kill everybody. That's not how it works at all. 161 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: In the United States of America, there is a long 162 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: chain of command for these kinds of strikes that has 163 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: to be signed off on by this commander and that commander. 164 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: It's not a one off thing. One guy doesn't get 165 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: to push the button, is what I'm saying, because he 166 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: feels like it. And by the way, that includes the 167 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: Secretary of War. One guy doesn't get to push the button. 168 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: Several guys have to look at the intelligence, look at 169 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: what's there, and say okay, boom stamped approved, boom stamped approved. 170 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: It goes through a long, long list, a checklist. Now 171 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: let's go to the nitty gritty, the ugly part of 172 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: it that you may not like because it doesn't remind 173 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: you of Captain America. Once all the check marks have 174 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: been gotten, once the stamp of approval was on the paperwork, 175 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: everyone in that convoy is going to die. And they're 176 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: not all necessarily going to be holding weapons at the time. 177 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: They're not all going to shoot first. In fact, I know, 178 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: I know this violates our comic book sensibilities, but I 179 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: actually don't want him to be armed first, and I 180 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: don't want him to shoot first, because then there's a 181 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: chance he'll kill me. Once I've determined that he's an 182 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: enemy combatant, I want to sneak up behind him and 183 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: put one in the back of his head. Therefore he's dead, 184 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: and I'm alive and so are my friends. So how 185 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: does it work? Well, you send in whatever you happen 186 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: to send in. It happens a variety of different ways. 187 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it can be everything from tomahawks to just 188 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: all kinds of different ways. You can choose to nuke 189 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: that convoy, but not only do you nuke the convoy once, 190 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: then you're flying over it at the time and you're 191 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: looking for signs of life. That includes somebody crawling on 192 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: the ground with its legs blown off. And if you 193 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: detect signs of life, if you detect intact vehicles most definitely, 194 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: because there's munitions in those vehicles, you have to assume. 195 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Then you send in another strike, and another strike and 196 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: another strike until everyone is freaking dead. Because that's war. 197 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: War is ugly, it is unfair, it is terrible, and 198 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: people die. And contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, 199 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: you don't wait until he shoots for punch, his first 200 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: grid toal weapon and gives you no with the choice, 201 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: but the take of life. You hit first, and you 202 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: hit hard, and you make sure he's dead, over and 203 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: over and over again. That's how war has always been 204 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: done and will always be done. Now, I talked yesterday 205 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: about the Communists and how they don't care about war crimes. Right, 206 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: none of this is about war crimes. Is it a 207 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: violation of the laws of war. None of this is 208 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: about that. This was simply an op, a communist op 209 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: designed to divide the Trump administration. If they're lucky, take 210 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: out Pete hegg Sath. You understand what it was. We 211 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: already talked about that. As far as the international laws 212 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: of war, I'll be honest with you, I laugh at them. 213 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: And you know the reason I laugh at them, It's 214 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: not because I don't want there to be rules. I 215 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: very much do want there to be rules. Rules. I 216 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: don't want civilians heard, I don't want people tortured, I 217 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: don't want people gassed and things like that. The reason 218 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: I've always laughed about the laws of war is the 219 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: entire history of the world is the second someone's losing, 220 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: they violate the rules in the law because they don't 221 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: care about it at all. You know, there were laws 222 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: rules against using poison gas and World War One, the 223 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: second Germany decided it couldn't break the stalemate they had 224 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: going out, came the poison gas. There were all kinds 225 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: of rules and laws and this war and that war, 226 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: and well, the second you start losing, the second it 227 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: starts going against you, you throw those things out and 228 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: you do all the things that are against the rules. 229 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: I laugh when I hear college boys in Washington, DC 230 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: do gooders who've never seen combat talk about the rules 231 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: of war and war crimes and things like that, because 232 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: all it tells me is you've never actually been there. 233 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: And of course they'll roll out some air fingers quote veteran, 234 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: and he's almost always some jag Fobbitt who never left 235 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: the line. He never heard a shot fired in anger. 236 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: He never saw an ounce of blood unless it was 237 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: the sliver he got at the chow hall going back 238 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: for his fifth helping of chocolate cake while the rest 239 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: of us were out on patrol. It's the only blood 240 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: he ever saw in the global war on terror. And 241 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: now he's, of course a democrat, and he's talking about 242 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: Pete Haig said in the Rules of War, and I'm 243 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: not really comfortable. Hey, bb b b BBB, And these 244 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: are the subversives that have me greatly concerned about potential 245 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: war with Venezuela. I'm going to give you one more 246 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: thought on this and why I'm concerned, and then we're 247 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: moving on. We're going to talk about institutional trust. Hang on, 248 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful Tuesday, 249 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: talking about rules of war. Now, finally my final thought 250 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: on this, because I want to talk about institutional trust. 251 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: There's a story out from the FDA that maybe went 252 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: by you. Maybe you don't care. I very very much 253 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: do care, and we're about to talk about it before 254 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: I get to that. Venezuela. I don't know what's coming, 255 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: neither do you. There's all kinds of saber rattling, if 256 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: you will, there's I don't know what's coming, but I 257 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: will say this, and I'm sure the Trump administration is 258 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: well aware of what I'm going to say, so I 259 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: don't want to act like I'm educating them about something. 260 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: We no longer have a Democrat party in the United 261 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: States of America. We have an anti American communist party 262 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: in the country. You see it every single day. But 263 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: what's the difference. Well, Democrats may push for leftist things, 264 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But once you go full communist, 265 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: then what you are is a subverse of trying to 266 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: hurt the country. You could argue when nineteen eighty five 267 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: Democrat was doing things that hurt the country. Hey, I 268 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: didn't like that policy. I didn't like this policy. You 269 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: could argue that all day long. But as a whole, 270 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: the party itself wasn't designed to hurt the country. Hurting 271 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: the country may have been a byproduct of bad policy, 272 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't designed for that. With the modern day Democrat 273 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: Party being a subversive communist party, we have to consider 274 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: something that maybe you haven't considered. Think about this. Let's say, 275 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: just for the sake of argument, let's say we go 276 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: full on, boots on the ground regime change in Venezuela. 277 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to set aside the politics of trying to 278 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: sell that to the American people and stuff like that. 279 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: We've already discussed that. I'm not getting into it tonight. 280 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: Just say it's happening. Trump says, the Marines are going 281 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: in the air strikes, begin the works, right, all right? 282 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: How many people in the Central Intelligence Agency can be trusted? 283 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: How many people inside the National security apparatus of the 284 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: United States of America are there to bring down the 285 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: United States of America. How many people in the Democrat 286 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: Party would work hand in hand with the media, the 287 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: Central Intelligence Agency, every other part of the system to 288 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: actually try to get us to lose that war so 289 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: the Trump administration would look bad. How many how do 290 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: you prosecute a war like that? It's not that wars 291 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: have to have universal support from everyone back at home 292 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: in order to be successful. That's not the case. In fact, 293 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: that's rarely the case. I'm not saying that you can 294 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: have people who are against the war for the war. 295 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: Oh that's fine. But what if you have one of 296 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: the two major political parties and they'll burn this whole 297 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: place to ash in order to hurt Donald Trump's approval numbers. 298 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: How do you fight a war like that? 299 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 3: What? 300 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: How does that look on the ground. Okay, well, let's 301 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: just game this out, shall we, and then we'll move 302 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: on and talk about institutional trust because this is actually 303 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: going to tie directly to it. The Trump administration right 304 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: now they're doing things like nuking drug boats and closing 305 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: the airspace over Venezuela. Well, these are policies that generally 306 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Americans are okay with. One. We don't have any strong 307 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: like of narco terrorists, so when you watch an internet 308 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: video of some getting blown up, you don't care but 309 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: that's only part of why you're okay with it. You're 310 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: okay with it because no Americans are being harmed. In fact, 311 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: there's not even a real risk of any American being harmed. 312 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: The Biden administration took a brutal, brutal hit to their 313 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: public approval numbers when thirteen warriors died at Abbygate, and 314 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: everyone kind of knew it was their fault. The American 315 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: people will tolerate a certain amount of foreign adventuring right 316 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: up to the point where they're burying troops. Then they 317 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: start to get upset. This is not new. The FDR 318 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: administration was gravely concerned about the casualty numbers at Ewojima 319 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: before we got into the Japanese invasion because they knew 320 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: the American people were sick of it. They were really 321 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: worried about it, and justifiably so. The American people do 322 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: not want blood. Now, let's say you're just hypothetically a 323 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: United States senator from Michigan. Let's say you have deep 324 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: ties to the Central Intelligence Agency. Let's say there are 325 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of people in the CIA, just for the 326 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: sake of argument, who are actually committed communists who would 327 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: love to burn America down. Let's say you're this senator 328 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of agree and the very least you don't care 329 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: if America burns now. Let's say you have knowledge of 330 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: the location of a ship off the coast of Venezuela. 331 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: The Venezuelans don't know about a ship that if the 332 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: Venezuelans knew about it, they actually had the ability to 333 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: take it out. How hard do you have to work 334 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: to slip that information to the Venezuelans. So a destroyer 335 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: gets nuked in the water, and you wake up tomorrow 336 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: morning and find out four hundred American sailors are at 337 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean. What happens to Donald Trump's 338 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: approval numbers? If four hundred American sailors end up at 339 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean. And you know for a fact, 340 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: I don't mean you have to try to convince you. 341 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: You know for a fact, every elected Democrat in Congress 342 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: would happily hand over that information in order to hurt Trump. 343 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: You know, these people have proven there's nothing they won't 344 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: do in order to get Trump. Shoot. They tried to 345 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: freaking kill him, framed him for crimes. You think they 346 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: won't kill some sailors? They don't care about means nothing 347 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: to these people. I am worried about our ability to 348 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: prosecute any war with anybody with a subversive party like 349 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: this inside the United States of America. And I'm not 350 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: talking about being against the war if there was a war, 351 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm discussing at all. All kinds of 352 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: people and probably you are going to be against actual 353 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: military action like that, That's not what I'm saying. I'm 354 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: not talking about run of the mill against the war. 355 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I'm talking I want to burn this country down. Trump 356 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: is hurting the revolution, and if I can kill a 357 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: bunch of American troops, then I'll do it in order 358 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: to further the revolution. And that's the kind of Democrat 359 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: party we have. Now. How quickly do you think Jasmine 360 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: Crockett would hand out critical pieces of intelligence to the 361 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: enemy if she thought it would help the revolution? She 362 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: would even hesitate, wouldn't even hesitate at all? Think about 363 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: that all right? Now? That brings me to something that's 364 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: completely unrelated, But I'm going to go off on it 365 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: because it matters. It matters a lot. We're going to 366 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: talk about institutions and institutional trust. Because I got this 367 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: email about Venezuela. Although we're done with Venezuela. Jesse. I 368 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: was listening to the opening of yesterday's show about commie ops, 369 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: and the key part is using corrupt institutions to give 370 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: the op credibility quote seven sources, the CIA, Harvard, etc. 371 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: It's tough for people who still trust the media in 372 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: these institutions not to fall victim. Even when I listen, 373 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: I can feel a twinge of angst, thinking, oh, that 374 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: does sound bad. So we're now this is going to 375 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: take a while to walk our way through this, but 376 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: we're going to discuss another danger of where we are 377 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: as a country right now, and that is we don't 378 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 1: have institutions that are trustworthy. We have pulled our trust away. 379 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: They have proven to be untrustworthy. How do you march 380 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: forward as a country when the people themselves feel as 381 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: if the contract with their institutions has been broken. Let's 382 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: discuss that much. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on 383 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: a Wonderful Tuesday. Everyday if you can email us your love, 384 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: your hate, your death threats Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 385 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to all kinds of things, but 386 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to buckle up for a few because 387 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: this might take me a little bit. We're gonna have 388 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: a discussion we've talked about again again and again and again, 389 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: and we'll keep talking about it because it is so important. 390 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: It's everything institutions and institutional trust. All nations are built 391 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: on top of their institutions. The institutions hold up the country. Now, 392 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: let me let me break this down in a way 393 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: that I haven't before. Medical institutions, because that's what we're about 394 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: to We're about to discuss that in a moment. But 395 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: medical institutions, even if you're a small village, it is 396 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: so important that you have someone someone there who can 397 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: provide some kind of medical care when people get sick 398 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: or hurt. Now today you're thinking about doctors and nurses 399 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: in medical school and things like that, and we'll get 400 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: to that in a moment, But even in a small village, 401 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: there has to be a medicine man or something like that. 402 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 1: But not just the medicine man. You see, he has 403 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: to have people training underneath him. The recipes and things 404 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: they use, they come down from generation to generation to generation. 405 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: The medical man, the medical institution of that village must 406 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: be there because the people in the village, the people 407 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: in that tribe. They have to know, Hey this itches, 408 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: Hey I broke my leg, my tummy's upset, my wife 409 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: is pregnant. They have to know there is a place 410 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: they can go to get accurate medical care, accurate efficient 411 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: medical care. They have to know. And the institution of 412 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: it is everything. Religion, media, entertainment. These institutions are pillars 413 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: that hold up societies. There has to be for media, 414 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: for example, in the media, now this is going to 415 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: be laughable because of the disgusting media we have in 416 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: this country. It's critical because you're busy. You have a life, 417 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: you have a job, you got school, you got this, 418 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: you got that, you got everything else. You don't have 419 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: all day long to pay attention to the news and 420 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: to dig through archives here and archives there and listen 421 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 1: to the police scanner. And you don't have that. What 422 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: do you have. You've got fifteen minutes thirty minutes time 423 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: when you're working out, maybe at work, to tune into 424 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: somebody to try to get accurate information on what is 425 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: happening in the world in your country, in your state, 426 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: and in your community. There has to be an institution therefore, 427 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: in your country that train people to give out accurate, 428 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: unbiased information so normal people can be informed. But we 429 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: don't have it here, and it's devastating. Now I know 430 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: that we have options, you and I we both have 431 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: options now because of social media and all the different 432 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: podcasts and shows, and there are all kinds of places 433 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: you can go now, go that are outside of tradition. 434 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: But we lost it, and we lost these institutions. I'll 435 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: get to the medical ones. We lost these institutions not 436 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: by accident. We lost these institutions for two reasons. The 437 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: first reason we lost our institutions is it just it 438 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: just seems to happen with time, meaning countries, especially large, 439 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: powerful countries like ours, over a long enough period of time, 440 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons, the institutions will eventually be 441 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: taken over by evil, selfish, corrupt people, and they will 442 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: ruin the reputation of the institution by taking it over 443 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: and doing evil, horrible, corrupt things. And once that institutional 444 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: trust is gone, once the people think it's a joke, 445 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: then honestly, you might as well bury the institution because 446 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: it no longer serves a purpose at all. I almost 447 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: laughed when I heard this. Lady her name is what 448 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: is it? Katie Turr is her name. She's been a 449 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: communist activist pretending to be a journalist for years and 450 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: years and years and years and years. She is with MSNBC. 451 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: This is what she said. Listen to what she said. 452 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: People don't trust us, they don't believe us, and it 453 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: makes me wonder if this job, as I'm currently doing 454 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 3: it is effective, but if it's doing more harm than good. 455 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 1: Katie Terror sought out journalism because Katie Turr wanted to 456 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: move the communist revolution forward. She didn't seek out journalism 457 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: because she wanted you to be informed about the news 458 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: of the day, the weather, the crime, the economy. That's 459 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: that that never crossed her mind. And you know how 460 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: you can tell what crossed her mind. She actually dropped 461 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: the word in there that was so revealing. Did you 462 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: catch it? I'll play it again. We'll see if you 463 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: can catch it. It's one word. It tells you all 464 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: you need to know about how she views her job 465 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: as a journalist. 466 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: People don't trust us, they don't believe us, and it 467 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 3: makes me wonder if this job, as I'm currently doing 468 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: it is effective. 469 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: But if he's doing more harm than good? Effective? What 470 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: do you mean by effective? If you saw yourself as 471 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: a journalist whose job it was to inform people of 472 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: simple facts, the truth, why would you ever be concerned 473 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: about being effective. You would only use that word if 474 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: you saw your job as being something other than the 475 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: truth and the facts. You see, these people are everywhere. 476 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Brian Stelter's another great example. What is this all about? 477 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: Is this just about controlling the narrative. 478 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: To legitimize the media? I would say, is to delegitimize 479 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: the media, Jessica, And this media bias monitor is being 480 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: produced at taxpayer expense. A He's worried about the Trump 481 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: administration delegitimizing the media, but the media delegitimized itself. It 482 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: was conquered by corrupt, evil, selfish people who saw their 483 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 1: job as being something other than informing the public. And 484 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: now the trust is gone and they can lament it 485 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: all day long, but they did it, which brings me 486 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: to our medical institutions. Get to that in a moment.