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Speaker 2: Es at fifteen thirty, I have a question. I have

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Speaker 2: a lot of questions. Here's my first question. Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: had a press conference yesterday. Would you think it weird

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Speaker 2: if he was doing like a comedy routine? Would you

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Speaker 2: think it weird if at four and eight the quarterback

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Speaker 2: of the Bengals looked like he was having a blast.

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Speaker 2: on the Bearcats. You see football and basketball. Later on

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Speaker 2: I have a question for you if you're an Ohio

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Speaker 2: State fan and the aftermath of this fascinating Sharon Moore story,

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Speaker 2: and a question if you're a Reds fan as well.

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Speaker 2: So the national media is just losing its mind over

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, and I get it. I'm watching I have

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Speaker 2: FS one on in studio here and there they are

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Speaker 2: leading the show with Nick Wright and those other two

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Speaker 2: guys talking about Joe Burrow, Chris Bussard, Joe Burrow. This

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Speaker 2: is based on chances are you've heard this by now,

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Speaker 2: But to cover myself, I'll play the audio. Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: his weekly media availability yesterday, looked like he was going

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Speaker 2: through some sort of existential crisis. Looked like a guy

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Speaker 2: and sounded like a guy who's not having a very

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Speaker 2: good time. Looked like a guy and sounded like a

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Speaker 2: guy who's going through it. Here is the audio from

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Speaker 2: yesterday's press conference in case you didn't hear it, already

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Speaker 2: change the way that.

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Speaker 3: You threw the game.

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Speaker 4: So no, it certainly doesn't change my desire to to win.

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Speaker 4: You know, if I want to if I want to

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Speaker 4: keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've been through a lot, and if it's.

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Speaker 6: Not fun, then what am I doing it for?

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Speaker 2: Ah?

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Speaker 4: So that's the mindset I'm trying to bring to the table.

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Speaker 3: Are you having right now?

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Speaker 7: It's difficult to have fun given the season, what you've

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Speaker 6: Is it tough? Yeah? Certainly?

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Speaker 8: Did you have fun playing? I mean, how much of

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Speaker 8: it was fun before?

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Speaker 7: E Winn's always fun?

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Speaker 3: Was it fun?

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Speaker 8: War got hurt?

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Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say I have viewed

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Speaker 8: What was the changing point?

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Speaker 6: The changing point? I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure there was a a singular moment or time.

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Speaker 4: It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 4: I've been through more than most and it's certainly not

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Speaker 4: it's trying to have I'm doing it again.

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Speaker 11: You talked it's you've seen.

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Speaker 3: Like through something on your mind.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I'm written too much into it, but seemed frustrated.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of things going on right now, A

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Speaker 2: So there you go Joe Burrow yesterday, looking and sounding

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Speaker 2: from yesterday. He's not having fun. Here's my question. Why

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Speaker 2: The headline would be if Joe Burrow's like, dude, I'm

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow doesn't do anything unintentionally. You know, we saw

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Speaker 2: was being wasted. That body language was not unintentional. What

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Speaker 2: he had to say, what he was expressing, not unintentional.

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Speaker 2: And that's before he started banging the drum for t

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Speaker 2: Higgins to come back. Do you think that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: that every national show took off and ran with. I

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Speaker 2: I turn on Colin Cowherd on TV today. He's talking

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. First take Joe Burrow, Pro football talk, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 2: every football related Twitter feed Joe Burrow, This show that

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Speaker 2: I'm watching right now on FS one with Nick Wright

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Speaker 2: Do you think he was unaware of how he behaved

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Speaker 2: He knew he was sending a message. The message is clear,

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Speaker 2: not happy, not having a good time. Why would he

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Speaker 2: be losing? Isn't fun having your best efforts wasted? Isn't

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Speaker 2: Isn't fun watching some of the same themes play out

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Speaker 2: Watching those same themes play out not fun? Watching dudes

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Speaker 2: Watching them get a chance to play in games that

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Speaker 2: everything's fine. Guess what, Everything's not fine. Here is a

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Speaker 2: Getting hurts not fun. Having surgery time and again is

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Speaker 2: not fun. Putting up a bunch of points and watching

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Speaker 2: You cannot help him or anybody else for wondering. You

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Speaker 2: know how much longer do I want to do this now?

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do what many are doing. Not gonna

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Speaker 2: assume that Joe Burrow wants out. I think that's unfair.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna assume that Joe Burrow is gonna do

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Speaker 2: what Andrew Luck did with the Indianapolis Colts. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna put thoughts in his head. But I

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Speaker 2: guess two things. First this do you want to keep

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Speaker 2: keep doing this? Last year, Joe Burrow was visibly not

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Speaker 2: very happy with life. Right now, Joe Burrow doesn't seem

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Speaker 2: very happy with life. The longer you go being unhappy

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Speaker 2: out With Joe Burrow, he might not be asking for

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Speaker 2: a trade right now. Let's do this again in a year.

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Speaker 2: Guy's got four years left on his contract. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: He might not be that close to the finish line,

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Speaker 2: Every year is precious. Every year in your prime is precious.

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Speaker 2: Do you mean to tell me you wouldn't be thinking

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Speaker 2: One of them was the Steelers. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: I just put yourself in his shoes. Yeah, you make

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Kate, I understand you are you are driving

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Speaker 2: Because you are driving. You are driving to Saint Louis

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Speaker 2: After Thanksgiving, this sounds like a country song, Kate.

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Speaker 13: That's you know, that's my middle name Kate Grandma road

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Speaker 16: I have unfortunately too many friends that well not exactly this,

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Speaker 16: And I'm like, I I not that I enjoy going

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Speaker 17: This report is and you're listening to the Home of

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Speaker 2: surprised he's done for the year. The question is is

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Speaker 2: at one. Our pregame coverage from the Holy Grail begins

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Speaker 2: at nine o'clock tomorrow morning. H Thursday Night Football tonight,

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Speaker 2: Bucks and Falcons on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The West

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Speaker 2: hundred WLW from the original Montgomerians and the Columbus Bluejackets

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Speaker 2: skate tonight against Ottawa. Typically at this time, we talked

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Speaker 2: I talked with Lee this morning. He is unable to

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Speaker 2: fill in to pick a few games for you. That

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Speaker 2: fill in is gonna be me. Let's take Tampa Bay tonight.

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Speaker 2: Let's lay the number four and a half. This is

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Speaker 2: a must win game for the Buccaneers. The Falcons are

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Speaker 2: a mess. Last week. They had a hard time against

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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck, who could run the ball. Kirk Cousins cannot.

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Speaker 2: Will take Tampa Bay. I will lay the points. I

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Speaker 2: like Cleveland to cover the number. I think this number

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Speaker 2: is too big. Chicago is better, but Shadora Sanders did

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Speaker 2: play well last week. Browns have an edge at pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: They're good in pass coverage, a little bit too good

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Speaker 2: for Caleb Williams and company. I will take the seven

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Speaker 2: and a half points. I'll lay the nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: With Houston, this to me is gonna be the biggest

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Speaker 2: blowout of the weekend. The Cardinals come here in a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks. I have no idea how they score

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Speaker 2: against that Houston defense. Number is also a big Seattle

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Speaker 2: and Indy. I think this number is huge. Even if

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones is healthy. They'll lay the thirteen and a half.

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Speaker 2: As a general rule, we stay away from big numbers

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. We're not going to do it here.

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Speaker 2: I think Seattle clobbers Indy. I'll lay the points and

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Speaker 2: I will take the two and a half with Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow he was good. He was good as the

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Speaker 2: game went on against Baltimore. He was better for the

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Speaker 2: most part last week against Buffalo. This is a Baltimore team.

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Speaker 2: They've given up fifty nine points and they've allowed over

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Speaker 2: five hundred passing yards the last couple of weeks. Some

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Speaker 2: of those were to old Aaron Rodgers. Baltimore's offense doesn't

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Speaker 2: look very good. They haven't scored more than thirty since

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Speaker 2: week two. I'm not sure I'm willing to go money

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Speaker 2: line here, though I am tempted, but I will take

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Speaker 2: the points. Give me the Bengals covering against Baltimore. There

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Speaker 2: you go, there you go. You can hold me accountable

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Speaker 2: like we hold the accountable. Let's see here, Chad Brenda,

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Speaker 2: Chad Brendle in a few minutes. In the meantime, Mike,

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Speaker 2: go ahead, You're on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 15: So thank you, Mom. Appreciate that the lady that's just

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Speaker 15: called from her car. Whenever they mentioned Kroger's, it takes

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Speaker 15: me back to when you set me up at Kroger's

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Speaker 15: more than once back in the day. So I just

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Speaker 2: For those who don't remember. You were so excited about

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Speaker 2: the money that our picks made you. This is back

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Speaker 2: when you used to be nice to me, and you

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Speaker 15: Of course, yeah, well things have changed a lot since then,

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Speaker 15: my friend, which leads me into my next question. But

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Speaker 15: I did appreciate all the tips and and and sweet

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Speaker 15: saying earlier his football mortality, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Where to go with that.

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Speaker 15: I guess none of us do. But I can understand

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Speaker 15: But but I can see, you know, you know, Joe's

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Speaker 15: mind got to be more wandering to a certain degree

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Speaker 15: because he knows how good he is. He knows that sure,

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Speaker 15: and I'm sure he wants a rain like everybody does.

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Speaker 15: And so you know, I, well, it's just hard to read,

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Speaker 15: isn't it.

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Speaker 6: Mo.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's that hard to read. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to try to psychoanalyze the guy. I'm not

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Speaker 2: But like, just put two and two together. He's a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's had to undergo surgery time and again. While he's

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Speaker 2: been a Bengal for over half of his NFL years,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals have been on the outside looking into the postseason.

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Speaker 2: They've had a lot of games where he has played

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Speaker 2: great and they haven't won. They've had seasons where he's

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Speaker 2: played great and they haven't won, like there's there's a

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Speaker 2: lot there, and then you he's no longer in year

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Speaker 2: two or three. He is closing it on thirty. He

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Speaker 2: probably has if he wants to play another eight years,

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Speaker 2: eight really good seasons, eight really good season in front

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Speaker 2: of him if he stays healthy. But you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he can see the end, and I'm sure he

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Speaker 2: does understand he's only gonna get so many cracks at it.

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Speaker 2: And you can't help but think that he's I think

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Speaker 2: any of us would be wondering, am I really going

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Speaker 2: to be able to get everything I want out of

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Speaker 2: my NFL career here? How could you not feel that way?

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Speaker 2: And so to me, the body language last year and

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Speaker 2: this year, the way he's answered questions would suggest that,

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Speaker 2: at least in the back of his mind is some

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Speaker 2: level of doubt that he could really achieve what he

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Speaker 2: wants to achieve in his career if he spends all

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Speaker 2: of it or most of it in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 15: No, I agree. It just makes me so damn sad,

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Speaker 15: though it really does, because he's such a good dude

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Speaker 15: and he's so talented. It just kisses me. Okay, let's

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Speaker 15: get to Kevil Marte real quick and the comments made yesterday.

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Speaker 15: This guy's top five second base on all the MLB.

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Speaker 15: This guy is really talented. I can't remember where you

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Speaker 15: left it yesterday. And Matt mcclaying God loving is still

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Speaker 15: unproven in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: That's putting it loud to that. Yeah, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: I could have to tell Marte or Matt mcclan, I

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Speaker 15: So is there so the money would be I mean,

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Speaker 15: is it even worth talking about mo or because it

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Speaker 15: it just something that won't happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess I'm not going to say it's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen. What you have to wonder is what

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Speaker 2: are the Reds willing to give up? How long is

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Speaker 2: their list of untouchables? So with could tell Marte what

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Speaker 2: you would be on the hook for. Is his contract

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the decade? Now that Max is

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Speaker 2: out at twenty two mil, he would make fifteen mil

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Speaker 2: this year. It's a significant amount of money. I don't

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Speaker 2: much about cash as it is who would they be

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Speaker 2: willing to give up and I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 2: know who's a non starter for them. I don't know who.

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Speaker 2: If you're in a trade discussion with the Reds, who

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Speaker 2: they say, Uh, we're not trading that guy no matter what.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we got a phone call yesterday from someone

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Speaker 2: I think it was Ron from Milford, who's a very

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Speaker 2: loyal caller, who basically kind of laughed at the idea

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Speaker 2: of going after can tell Marte and I'm like, do

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Speaker 2: you know how good that guy is? And then you

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Speaker 2: would know a thing for some past prime Dude, he's awesome,

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Speaker 2: He's terrific, Like he's been a Silver Slugger Award win

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Speaker 2: in the last couple of years, finished third in the

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Speaker 2: MVP voting two years ago. His home run total would

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Speaker 2: have easily led the Reds last season. Like, dude, of

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Speaker 2: course you would want him. The question is how much

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Speaker 2: are the Reds really willing to give up in order

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Speaker 2: to get him? And none of us said, they answered, Mike,

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Speaker 2: I got a run, man.

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Speaker 15: George is gonna kill us. Georgia is going to kill you.

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Speaker 6: See this week, brother kill us.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a very good feeling about it, Mike.

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Speaker 2: I will be completely honest about that all right? Chad

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Speaker 2: Brendel on the Bearcats.

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Speaker 1: Tweak, the Ravens fly into Cincinnati for a battle with

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Speaker 2: against Navy on January the second. Get coverage of all

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Speaker 2: that and more at Bearcat Journal dot com. Hi Chad.

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Speaker 6: Him, how's it going well?

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Speaker 2: From the perspective of what you talk about? Not good?

656
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Speaker 2: Can you hear me?

657
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I got you?

658
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Speaker 9: I got you jump a little the aid there for

659
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Speaker 9: a second. Now, things aren't great right now? What's the

660
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Speaker 9: what's the one gift I use all the time?

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Speaker 6: Not great?

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Speaker 9: Bob that's the sad of the things right now.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 10: It is so.

665
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Speaker 2: From a pure basketball perspective, like I know that the

666
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: moment the shootout ended, folks advance the conversation to what's

667
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: going to happen with Wes, and I understand that I do.

668
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: That makes total sense. But from a basketball perspective, they

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Speaker 2: do have a high major game on Saturday, another one

670
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Speaker 2: a week from Sunday, and then the entire Big twelve season.

671
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Speaker 2: How does this get fixed? What can a coach do

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Speaker 2: with the personnel they have to somehow get this season

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Speaker 2: back on track.

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Speaker 9: Number One, They've got to figure out the execution issue

675
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Speaker 9: on offense.

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Speaker 6: It's just bad, like the they're.

677
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Speaker 9: Turning it over too much, they're not shooting the three

678
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Speaker 9: ball well, they're bad at the free throw line. Like

679
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Speaker 9: there's not any any metric that you can look at

680
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Speaker 9: that gives you confidence in the way that they're playing

681
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 9: offense right now. And if they can get that fixed,

682
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 9: the defense is good enough, contrary to the frustration with

683
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Speaker 9: Tarzan treating them like Jane for thirty points, like there

684
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Speaker 9: is hope if they can figure things out offensively. It's

685
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Speaker 9: just not been a strength of west Miller's in his

686
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Speaker 9: coaching tenure. So I don't have a lot of faith

687
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Speaker 9: in it, but you know, you've got an opportunity right now.

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Speaker 9: Georgia and Clemson are twenty four and twenty five in

689
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Speaker 9: Ken Tom, So the opportunity is there to get this

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Speaker 9: thing back on track. If you go into conference play

691
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Speaker 9: and you've got to win over Dayton, who's solid, and

692
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Speaker 9: you've got wins over Clemson in Georgia, you've at least

693
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Speaker 9: got something to work with.

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Speaker 6: If they go oh and two, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 6: long twenty twenty six.

696
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Speaker 2: Now what is the offense supposed to look.

697
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Speaker 6: Like with this group?

698
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Speaker 9: I'm not sure, Like that's the hard part. Yeah, you know,

699
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 9: with with the group that they had last year, most

700
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Speaker 9: of those guys have been there two three years, Like.

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Speaker 6: You understood the basics of like what they were trying

702
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Speaker 6: to do.

703
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 9: Now it feels like pass around the perimeter, try to

704
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 9: get downhill, usually unsuccessfully, and then shoot a late shot

705
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Speaker 9: clock three. And that's just not that's not good offense.

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Speaker 9: That's you know, there was there was a little bit

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Speaker 9: in the Tarton State game where the ball kind of

708
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Speaker 9: popped and it like, you know, how you want offense

709
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Speaker 9: to look, and there was a little bit in that

710
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Speaker 9: second half of the Xavier game where it did. But

711
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Speaker 9: it's not happening over forty minutes. It's happening in five

712
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Speaker 9: and ten minute stretches, and against teams like Georgia and Clemson,

713
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Speaker 9: five and ten minute stretches aren't going to get the

714
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Speaker 9: job done.

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Speaker 6: So you're not seeing the defense move.

716
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Speaker 10: Side to side.

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Speaker 6: You're not seeing.

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Speaker 9: Really any like scramble where you can tell like the

719
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Speaker 9: defense is a path behind, which is where you want

720
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Speaker 9: things to be. It just doesn't feel fluid. I know,

721
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Speaker 9: you know, you've got a whole new team, but that's

722
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Speaker 9: that's my biggest problem though, is yeah, you've got a

723
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Speaker 9: whole new team, but if you look around the country,

724
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Speaker 9: these groups that are new have had kind of a

725
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Speaker 9: steady upward trend, and I don't feel like we've had

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Speaker 9: a steady upward trend with this offense. I feel like

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00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 9: it's actually like you could make the argument, moo, the

728
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Speaker 9: best this team has looked was then Exhibition number one. Yeah,

729
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Speaker 9: and it's been kind of flat to a decline ever

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Speaker 9: since then.

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Speaker 2: Well and and folks aren't going to like this. Richard

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Speaker 2: Patino doesn't have an overly talented team. I've watched them

733
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Speaker 2: get better. I mean, I can tell you what it's

734
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Speaker 2: supposed to look like. Now, you know, they have some

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Speaker 2: guys who might not be great at finishing at the rim,

736
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Speaker 2: maybe some guys who has struggled to get their shots off.

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Speaker 2: Like but but I that's a new group. That's a

738
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Speaker 2: new group that is coalescing. And not every group coalesces

739
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Speaker 2: at the same right, But like that, to me, that's

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Speaker 2: what was so striking about Friday Night is over here

741
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Speaker 2: there is a team that has severe talent limitations, but

742
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Speaker 2: I'm seeing it come together. I'm seeing I'm seeing collective

743
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Speaker 2: improvement and a bunch of individuals that are coming together.

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Speaker 2: And that over here, I watch a team where I ask,

745
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Speaker 2: what is this supposed what it's good? What is it

746
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Speaker 2: supposed to look like?

747
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Speaker 5: You?

748
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Speaker 2: You in this day and age. I just I don't

749
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Speaker 2: think you can you can play the card all that often.

750
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Speaker 2: Well the group is all new that just in this

751
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: day and age, that's not gonna work. And it's really

752
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: not gonna work when you're getting beaten by your arch

753
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: rival that has figured out a way to make it work,

754
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Speaker 2: at least to a degree, with a whole new team.

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Speaker 9: But here's the bigger concern though, coming into that game,

756
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Speaker 9: the way that they had figured out to make it

757
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Speaker 9: work is not how they won the.

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Speaker 2: Shootout, right, yes, correct, that he kept ram them.

759
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Speaker 6: Off the three point line.

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Speaker 10: Like you know, they had gotten back into.

761
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Speaker 9: To being successful by making thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, well twice

762
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Speaker 9: they made sixteen threes.

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Speaker 6: And since Nati took that away and they still.

764
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Speaker 9: Had a counter, they still had an answer. And you know,

765
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Speaker 9: if you look at it, Cincinnati shot way better from

766
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Speaker 9: three than Xavier did, since that he only turned it

767
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Speaker 9: over nine times. Zagers shot terribly from the free throw line, Like,

768
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Speaker 9: but then you give them, you allow them to shoot

769
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Speaker 9: sixty seven percent from two, and since that he's supposed

770
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Speaker 9: to have one of the better two point defenses in

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Speaker 9: the country. And they took it right at your strength

772
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Speaker 9: and beat you, and you didn't have an answer, And

773
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Speaker 9: that is wildly concerning. And the other part, mo and

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Speaker 9: this has been a thing for unfortunately, it's been a

775
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Speaker 9: thing for five years.

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Speaker 6: They got the lead by one and then crumbled.

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Speaker 9: Instead of built our way back, built our way back,

778
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Speaker 9: built our way back. And even if it just becomes

779
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Speaker 9: like a heavyweight fight of two teams standing in the

780
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 9: middle of the ring swinging at each other.

781
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Speaker 6: That's not what happened.

782
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Speaker 9: They immediately give up a wide open three to let

783
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Speaker 9: Zavier go back up two, and from there they're back

784
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Speaker 9: on their heels and you've got to be able to finish.

785
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Speaker 9: And you know, maybe they play right with Georgia or Clemson,

786
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 9: but from what I've seen, based on the Louisville game,

787
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Speaker 9: based on you know, they got back to one on

788
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Speaker 9: Eastern Michigan and gave up an eight zero run and

789
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 9: still e they're down nine, And what I've seen against Xavier,

790
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Speaker 9: I don't have a lot of faith that this group

791
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Speaker 9: can grind out that final three minutes of a close

792
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Speaker 9: game to get a win, because they haven't given me

793
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Speaker 9: confidence in their ability to do that.

794
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Speaker 2: When you have been asked about this being a tournament

795
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: or bust year for Wes Miller, your response has been,

796
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Speaker 2: I need to see what it looks like. So, you know,

797
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: I go back to last year. They had one non

798
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: league loss before conference play, didn't come close to stay

799
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Speaker 2: in the tournament. They already have free one of them's

800
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: bad at home. They played two high majors in what

801
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: are effectively road games, and so, you know, God knows.

802
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 2: I hope they go to Atlanta and win and change

803
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: the conversation. But I'm thinking, okay, those are quite possibly

804
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: losses in Big twelve play. This does not right now

805
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: look like a team that's capable of winning nine out

806
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Speaker 2: of eighteen games. And so then I think, okay, eleven losses,

807
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: twelve losses, and I start to go, you know, for

808
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 2: for a team, what where a lot of us were,

809
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 2: Like the only the only baseline, the only barometer is

810
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Speaker 2: make the NCAA tournament. We're talking about seventeen losses something

811
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Speaker 2: like that, Like, well, that that is right right, Like

812
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Speaker 2: that's that's yeah, I mean that that there's the what

813
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: does it look like? That's sixteen seventeen, eighteen losses? Then

814
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 2: I think we know the outcome, right.

815
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Speaker 6: It looks really really bad.

816
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Speaker 9: I mean from and it's just so hard to fathom

817
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 9: with how competitive they were against Louisville to go from

818
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 9: that to where we are now, Like.

819
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Speaker 6: It's hard to get your brain around that.

820
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Speaker 9: Things that kind of just skidded to a complete halt

821
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Speaker 9: in the momentum of you know, what is a critical

822
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Speaker 9: season for west Miller and if he doesn't get this

823
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 9: thing turned around, like you've already in.

824
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Speaker 6: A lot of ways lost the fan base.

825
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Speaker 9: John Cunningham has given him a lot of rope, right, like, Okay,

826
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Speaker 9: we resept the clock essentially going into the Big twelve,

827
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Speaker 9: like we're gonna give you a chance to get this

828
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Speaker 9: thing course corrected. And last year like that was supposed

829
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Speaker 9: to be the year and they fell short. And it

830
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Speaker 9: just doesn't feel like there's any momentum moving forward in

831
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 9: the program right now, and that's not a good sign

832
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Speaker 9: for year five of the West Miller era.

833
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Speaker 2: They they do, they do. I got like ninety seconds here.

834
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Speaker 2: How many how many players who make the backbone of

835
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Speaker 2: Scott Sadderfield's team will be on the field when they

836
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: play Navy in the Liberty Bowl?

837
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Speaker 6: Probably not many. I don't think I would be At

838
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Speaker 6: this point.

839
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Speaker 9: We haven't heard anything from Brendan Sowsby that leads me

840
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Speaker 9: to believe like if he was coming back, that would

841
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 9: be front and center, or at least a decision is

842
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 9: still being made, which tells me if a decision is

843
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 9: still being made, I wouldn't count on him for January second,

844
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Speaker 9: per se, Christian Harrison's already in the portal.

845
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Speaker 6: I would assume. Dante Corleone announcing his.

846
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Speaker 9: Intentions for the draft is a subtle way of saying,

847
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 9: I've been banged up all year. I'm probably not gonna

848
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 9: want to get Chopp blocked for you know, sixty plays.

849
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Speaker 6: On January second.

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Speaker 9: It doesn't feel great, and I think, you know, the

851
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 9: line has reflected that Cincinnati was a favorite. It has

852
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 9: swung all the way to Navy and feels like probably

853
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 9: will continue to do.

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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go to Memphis, but.

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Speaker 9: Really I'm just I love Guss's Fried chickens, so I'm

856
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Speaker 9: probably just going for that and rendezvous in the press box,

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00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 9: rendevo in the price walks right, mo was that was

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Speaker 9: the last time we were at the Liberty Bow. Rendezvou

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Speaker 9: in the press.

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Speaker 2: Box, Yeah, rendevoue in the press box. Yeah, I will.

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Speaker 2: I will have Gusses, I will have rendezvous and uh,

862
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: probably a few libations. We'll see you there.

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Speaker 6: Thank you as all, same mouth, same see you there.

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Speaker 2: Chad Brendel Bearcat Journal dot Com on Twitter at Chad Brendel.

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Speaker 2: We had to move him because I don't know how

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Speaker 2: to read a clock. But we're right on time right now.

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Speaker 2: Robert wintrub on the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three for four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. Moelegger

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Speaker 2: Robert Wine trout Right say weekly Bengals column for Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Magazine dot com, and he joins us every single Thursday. Robert,

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Speaker 2: It's awesome to have you. Now it's your turn to

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Speaker 2: go ahead and publicly psychoanalyze Joe Burrow the Flora's yours.

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Speaker 10: I usually get paid about three fifty an hour for that,

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Speaker 10: So hopefully if the check will be coming directly from jail,

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Speaker 10: and that this is a PR firm he is, I

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Speaker 10: he is going on is amazing in that he's got

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Speaker 10: the whole world feeling sorry for him coming off a

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Speaker 10: game where he was.

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Speaker 17: The one who basically lost the game.

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Speaker 12: I mean, the.

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Speaker 10: Understandable to me if this was a scenario where it was,

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Speaker 10: you know, the Jets of the Bears game when Joe

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Speaker 10: Flacco played and the defense snatched the defeat from the

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Speaker 10: jaws of victory. But here's a game where you know,

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Speaker 10: I don't want to put all the blame on Burrow.

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Speaker 10: You know, clearly the defense struggled to stop Josh Allen,

902
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Speaker 10: but a lot of defenses struggled to stop Josh Allen.

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Speaker 10: It was always going to be a shootout, and you know,

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Speaker 10: Burrow blinked a couple. It was a little bit of

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Speaker 10: bad luck and a great play by the Bill's defensive

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Speaker 10: back Christian Benford. But still and now he comes out

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Speaker 10: and he feels a little sorry for himself, and all

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Speaker 10: of a sudden, everybody's like, how dare the Bengals even

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Speaker 10: employ this guy?

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Speaker 6: We're right back to before the draft.

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Speaker 15: It's unbelievable to me.

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Speaker 2: So the game on Sunday, though, encapsulated everything I dislike

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Speaker 2: about the Bengals right now. So Joe made a mistake, right,

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Speaker 2: that's a pick six that you can't throw. You certainly

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Speaker 2: can't throw it in that situation in the four fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: But he's on a team that requires him to be perfect,

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Speaker 2: and on Sunday he was human. And if Joe's only human,

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Speaker 2: they can't win.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, besides you, who of us really is human?

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Speaker 11: Are perfect?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: It's a slippery slope. And of course you're right, that's

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Speaker 10: been a problem. You know, Burrow is a great quarterback,

924
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Speaker 10: but even great quarterbacks make mistakes, and you know, you

925
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Speaker 10: see it around the league. A lot of guys we

926
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Speaker 10: assume are superhuman, suddenly they don't play one hundred percent

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Speaker 10: perfect in the game and their team looks very mortal

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Speaker 10: around them. In Kansas City and Baltimore.

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Speaker 15: We see it all over the place. And yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 10: It's something that we were promised was a one off

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Speaker 10: from last year and would never happen again, and here

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Speaker 10: it is happening again. That's the real issue, I think

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Speaker 10: for all of us in that you know you're willing

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Speaker 10: to bite down really hard and choke it down after

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Speaker 10: last year and think, Okay, well it happens, but you

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Speaker 10: know we're going to change things up in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 10: and then we all sell them not really do anything,

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Speaker 10: and promise it was going to be different, and.

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Speaker 17: It hasn't been any different. In a lot of ways,

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Speaker 17: it's been worse.

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Speaker 10: And so that's what makes it really difficult, as you say,

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Speaker 10: as a Bengals fan, to watch that and to know

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Speaker 10: that you know, you understand Burrows.

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Speaker 6: You know the weight of I've always called.

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Speaker 10: Him at list and yet it seems like the weight

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Speaker 10: of the world on his shoulders is actually he's feeling

947
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Speaker 10: these days because it's just so much on him to

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Speaker 10: be that all pro level quarterback every single down, every

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Speaker 10: single week, and it's just not happening, and it won't

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Speaker 10: happen for anybody, and you know he's feeling it, no

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Speaker 10: question about it.

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Speaker 2: He needs help, He needs a better defense. Bengals need

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Speaker 2: better defensive players, but they they do have pieces. The

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Speaker 2: obvious one is DJ Turner. Who else on that side

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Speaker 2: of the ball is worth keeping or building around.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, when you stay building around, I think the players

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Speaker 10: that are going to build around aren't even on the roster, right,

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Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's where you take it. I think

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Speaker 10: you mentioned Turner. He's obviously having an excellent season. You're

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Speaker 10: not giving up on players like Miles Murphy.

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Speaker 15: He's showing a flash.

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Speaker 10: I hope that he and Shamar Stewart can develop together

963
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Speaker 10: and form a decent at least edge Russian combination. Uh.

964
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Speaker 10: You know, other guys have shown moments. Dack Hill, Chris Jenkins.

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Speaker 10: They're not guys you just automatically flush.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, in the.

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Speaker 10: NFL, guys think or swim at different levels. Some guys

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Speaker 10: burst out right away and then they, you know, kind

969
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Speaker 10: of fall off. Some guys take a while to develop

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Speaker 10: and then they really show who they are and there

971
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Speaker 10: their fourth even fifth seasons or they need a new

972
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Speaker 10: team sometimes, and you know, you know, that's that's the

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Speaker 10: nature of the league. And you're seeing that a little

974
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Speaker 10: bit in Cincinnati. We hope these guys will finally get

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Speaker 10: it together. I mean Al Golden was brought in specifically

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Speaker 10: to make guys who were young and underachieving under Luanna

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Speaker 10: Rumo take that step forward, and then you know, except

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Speaker 10: for Turner, you're not really seeing that. So I don't

979
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Speaker 10: know that anybody sides him is what you would call

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Speaker 10: a building block on that side of the ball. And

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Speaker 10: they're going to bring in a ton of personnel, but

982
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Speaker 10: you can't replace everybody else besides DJ, So you're going

983
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Speaker 10: to have to hope that some of these other guys

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Speaker 10: continue to develop. And you know, crussing your fingers hasn't

985
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Speaker 10: worked that well so far, but I don't know if

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Speaker 10: we have any other option.

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Speaker 2: Robert Wintraub read his weekly Bengals column at Cincinnati Magazine

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Speaker 2: dot com. You're an analytics guy. Do analytics love DJ

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Speaker 2: Turner as much as as much as I do? When

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Speaker 2: I just apply the eye test?

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Speaker 10: Well, analytics aren't human, mo, so no, I hopefully they

992
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Speaker 10: can't love like you can as an emotional, breathing human being.

993
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Speaker 10: But yet the numbers do back up the eye test,

994
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Speaker 10: no question. You know, the Bengals are right near the

995
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Speaker 10: top and enemy number one guarding by DVOA. They don't

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Speaker 10: throw a DJ Turner hardly at all. He's received by

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Speaker 10: percentage of the second fewest passes thrown in his direction

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Speaker 10: at any corner out there. And when you know the

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Speaker 10: opposing quarterback has such a buffet of options to throw elsewhere,

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Speaker 10: why would you throw a DJ Turner? Right? I mean,

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Speaker 10: they're giving up ten passes in nearly ninety five yards

1002
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Speaker 10: a game to tight end. Just it's in human numbers.

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Speaker 10: Turner is having an excellent season. We have a DVOA

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Speaker 10: for Cornerbacks stet which you can find at FTN Fantasy,

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Speaker 10: and he's in the top five. So it's really kind

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Speaker 10: of remarkable that he's having this, you know, excellent, close

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Speaker 10: to all pro level season on an island essentially, And

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Speaker 10: you know, it's the old Deon Sanders thing. He's doing

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Speaker 10: his job and taking away the number one target for

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Speaker 10: enemy quarterbacks, and yet nobody else can step up and

1011
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Speaker 10: stop them, and it's just it's really they've let him

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Speaker 10: down almost as much as they've let down Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if DJ's given any press conferences with

1014
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Speaker 10: the way of the world on his shoulders, but maybe

1015
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Speaker 10: he should because he's playing extremely well and nobody else.

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Speaker 6: Is around him.

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Speaker 2: Do you mean thirty weeks on whether or not the

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Speaker 2: Ravens this week opponent, are done.

1019
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Speaker 3: Done.

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Speaker 10: No, I don't think they're done. They obviously are underachieving

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Speaker 10: this year in a lot of the same way as

1022
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Speaker 10: the Bengals are mostly tied to their quarterbacks health.

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Speaker 6: As we know.

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Speaker 10: You know, they're sixteenth in DVOA. But the teams are

1025
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Speaker 10: lumped around the Patriots and the Chargers and the Buccaneers,

1026
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Speaker 10: teams that we don't consider done. They're playing at basically

1027
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Speaker 10: that level. Lamar can break out at any time. I

1028
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Speaker 10: don't think they'll turn the ball over five times again,

1029
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Speaker 10: and you know, they don't look good and there's not

1030
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Speaker 10: a lot of reasons for optimism in Baltimore necessarily, but

1031
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Speaker 10: I wouldn't taint.

1032
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Speaker 6: Them as done.

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Speaker 10: They can easily, you know, make a run win the

1034
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Speaker 10: division and that would be the first time any AFC

1035
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Speaker 10: North team has won the division three times in a

1036
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Speaker 10: row since the inception of the of the AFC Nors.

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Speaker 10: So we definitely don't want that better Pittsburgh really, even

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Speaker 10: in that scenario than the Dravens winning a three straight

1039
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Speaker 10: times doing something on precedent, and we can't live with that.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that wholeheartedly. No sight go analysis needed.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it as always. Man, I will talk to

1043
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Speaker 2: you in a few weeks. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 10: Yes, have a great holiday season. Everybody, thanks so much.

1045
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Speaker 2: That's our guy. Robert Wintraub. Read his Bengals column right

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Speaker 2: now at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. It's twenty nine away

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Speaker 2: from five o'clock. I'm mollegar.

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Speaker 6: We have room.

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Speaker 2: T Higgins limited again today, still in the NFL's concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: least of which, and probably the most important, at least

1084
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: for me, is the guy's got a family. The guy

1085
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,959
Speaker 2: has a wife, he has three children. I guess he's

1086
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 2: got a newborn. And so these are innocent victims of

1087
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: his behavior and they have to suffer the consequences in

1088
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: at least somewhat public view, and that's not fair to them.

1089
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 2: And so, you know, yesterday, at this time, we had

1090
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: just found out that Sharon more story was happening, and

1091
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: everybody was firing off jokes and it was funny. And

1092
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: then you kind of see what has happened in the aftermath,

1093
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: and some pretty disturbing details about what may or may

1094
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: not have occurred, both as it relates to approach his

1095
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 2: relationship with a staff member and then what he did

1096
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: subsequent to getting fired yesterday, or at least what he's

1097
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,479
Speaker 2: maybe alleged of having done after he found out about

1098
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: his firing yesterday, and so there's a real human element

1099
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: to this story. There's also a major football element to

1100
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: this story. This is a blue blood program that fired

1101
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: its coach. Was some weird timing in play here right

1102
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: after signing day. I've read reporting that suggested, and I

1103
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: my computer is frozen here, which doesn't help. But I've

1104
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: read some reporting that basically dedicated that Charon Moore and

1105
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: the staffer in question here were both questioned separately about

1106
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: a possible relationship back during the summer, and then apparently

1107
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: the staffer came forward yesterday and said, actually, there is

1108
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: a relationship, and then they banged Sharon More fired Charon Moore.

1109
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: I guess I should say so. I guess that's how

1110
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: it unfolded. The timing of this is, you know, it's

1111
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: been the most active college football hiring cycle that we

1112
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: can remember. A lot of huge programs changing coaches. It's

1113
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 2: happening between signing day and a bowl game, and the

1114
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 2: portal's about to open, and so there's a lot going

1115
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 2: on here. And I have a lot of Ohio State

1116
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: fans in my life. One of them is my producer,

1117
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: Tarn Bland, and so like Ohio State fans having a

1118
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: grand old time with this yesterday, as many of us

1119
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: were like, Twitter was a funny place as it relates

1120
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 2: to Charon More until it stopped being funny last night.

1121
00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: But a lot of Ohio State fans and joined them,

1122
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: a lot of Ohio State fans taking a victory lap.

1123
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 8: And I get it.

1124
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: Like Sharon Moore coaches Michigan hated rival involved in the

1125
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: sign stealing scandal, the fact that he got his punishment

1126
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 2: and was allowed to pick the games that he missed

1127
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: is comically stupid. That is an athletic department that has

1128
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: seemingly had a lot of different issues even while the

1129
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: Wolverines won the national title two years ago. But I guess,

1130
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: purely from a football perspective, a lot of folks having

1131
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 2: fun because Charon Moore is getting bounced the thing is

1132
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: felt like Michigan fans were pretty cool with it.

1133
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 6: Now.

1134
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't know of any rational human being who's okay

1135
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: with a guy dragging his family through the mud publicly.

1136
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 2: I certainly don't know any rational human being who is

1137
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 2: okay with some of the things that maybe Charon Moore

1138
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: is going to be accused of doing after he got

1139
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: fired yesterday. But I don't know a ton of Michigan fans,

1140
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 2: but I know some, and I certainly saw a bunch

1141
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: on social media yesterday. None of them were lamenting the

1142
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 2: loss of a great coach. And so to me, like

1143
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: take the cue from them from a football perspective, Are

1144
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: the people who care most about this program happy about this?

1145
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 6: You know?

1146
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: When Urban Meyer was under fire for a completely different

1147
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: set of circumstances while he was still the coach in

1148
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: Columbus and got suspended, and to this day, I'm still

1149
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: not sure what he got suspended for, Ohio State fans

1150
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 2: weren't worried. Now things have worked out okay since But

1151
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,919
Speaker 2: Ohio State fans weren't worried because Urban Meyers a great coach,

1152
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: I think, the second best coach of the twenty first century.

1153
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: I didn't see any Michigan fan who was like, dude,

1154
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: we just lost Sharon More. It was more like, cool,

1155
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: we don't have Sharon Moore anymore. Why couldn't we have

1156
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: done this weeks ago? So just like I don't know, like,

1157
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: have fun, poke fun at Michigan, poke fun at the

1158
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: whole stupid Michigan man thing. But now beyond the lookout

1159
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: for them to hire a coach who's actually better than

1160
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: Sharon Moore, and like, take your cue from Michigan fans.

1161
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: None of them who seem to be upset that Jerome

1162
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: Wore is not gonna be the coach anymore. Uh it

1163
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 2: is a sixteen away from five o'clock. We'll do more

1164
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 2: psychoanalysis of Joe Burrow. And UH, I need a question

1165
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 2: answered for me about Kyle Schwarber, Pete Alonzo and superstar

1166
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: baseball players because I think in that sport in particular,

1167
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: we have a really weird dynamic. U But first, our

1168
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: buddy Dan Glaskins on Fantasy Football.

1169
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:35,720
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Speaker 2: Ten from five ESPN fifteen thirty on Thursdays. At this time,

1180
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: we talked fantasy football with our guy Dan Glaskins, most

1181
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 2: of fantastics inside of football on serious extraft fantasy h

1182
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: This is the day that I dread Dan. This is

1183
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 2: the day where as somebody who is not eligible to

1184
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: be in the postseason, who has been eliminated and frankly

1185
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: got eliminated weeks ago, I have to go to the

1186
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: ATM to get some cash so I can pay my

1187
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: league fees. It's always a sobering day.

1188
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, at least you pay your fees, right, that's

1189
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 17: one of the things that is always helpful. But it

1190
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 17: is a depressing thing. And here's the thing. If you

1191
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 17: didn't make the fantasy playoffs, half the people in your

1192
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 17: league did.

1193
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 6: You're just average.

1194
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 17: So I mean, you know, mo, I mean you've been

1195
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 17: hearing your average whole life, so it shouldn't be that

1196
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 17: big a man. No, I'm just teasing, brother, but no,

1197
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 17: this is the season where it is a bitter and

1198
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 17: in the season of bitterness, I thought we would start

1199
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 17: today's segment. It's sort of the things I hate the

1200
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 17: most about fantasy football, because we we got these things

1201
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 17: all bottled up. And I'll tell you one of the

1202
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 17: things I hate is kickers. I had literally been on

1203
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 17: a crusade for like fifteen years to ban them from

1204
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 17: every league in America, talking about it on the radio

1205
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 17: show on Social certainly in the league that I managed.

1206
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 17: Last week, I actually was going against Brandon Aubrey in

1207
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 17: the game. I had a win, which didn't help you

1208
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 17: get knocked out with his twenty five points. The variance

1209
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 17: is just too much, man, Let's get away with it.

1210
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 17: The thing I hateing worse than that is in game injuries.

1211
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 17: Nothing like playing in your fantasy playoffs and in a

1212
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 17: quarter one having your stud player go down and real

1213
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 17: football to get somebody comes in. I don't understand, with

1214
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 17: all the apps and software, how the world we can't

1215
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 17: have something when you pick a bench player and get

1216
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 17: some sort of pro rated points or something. I don't know,

1217
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 17: at least in profits, they give it back to you

1218
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 17: if they get hurt in the first half.

1219
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 6: Crappy trade offers.

1220
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 17: And yes, I'm calling out James Rapine on this one.

1221
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 17: He's of crafty trade offers. I play in so many

1222
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 17: leagues with Jameer Pene, but there's a lot of changer

1223
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 17: pins in every league. No, and don't waste their time.

1224
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 17: It's like trading stupid players for good players. Managers you

1225
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 17: don't pay makes a list. But that's not new because

1226
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 17: you went to the ATM and hey, here's a noble concept.

1227
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 17: How about this pain on draft night and getting it

1228
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 17: over it? And the worst of all is three leagues.

1229
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 17: Please don't invite me because you know I got about things.

1230
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 17: But I don't need to play when there's nothing on

1231
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 17: the line. Though I'm sorry, maybe I'm a degenerate, but yeah,

1232
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 17: free leagues really make me killed.

1233
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: We we had, we have still a coworker who years

1234
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 2: ago tried to put together a free league, and I think,

1235
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: I I think to this day he's still mad at

1236
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 2: me because of how hard I laughed in his face.

1237
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 2: But so you don't have those. But but I am.

1238
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 2: I am a chronic pay as soon as i'm done,

1239
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: uh you know, as soon as I have no chance

1240
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: of winning, as soon as I'm eliminated, I pay. So No,

1241
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 2: I don't pay on draft. I do pay.

1242
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 17: Don't have to ask you to pay your fee like

1243
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 17: at the super Bowl.

1244
01:05:59,280 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 6: That's a good thing.

1245
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: That's why I will never be a fantasy football commissioner.

1246
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: Let's talk about a pretty lengthy list of injuries.

1247
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, Devin Hm, excuse me, Devin Hm. He is the

1248
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 17: biggest name on the list. He plays on Monday night.

1249
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 17: They're really just getting that practice for the first time.

1250
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 17: Good news on the x ray on his rigs issue.

1251
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 17: This is a situation to monitor for one of fantasy

1252
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 17: top backs. The receivers are where most of the injuries occur.

1253
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 17: Obviously you've been talking about t against In. It's concussion.

1254
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 17: I don't know what's going to happen on Sunday, but

1255
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 17: he is in concussion protocol still with bangles. Nothing I

1256
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 17: must play for. I'm not sure why he would rush

1257
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 17: out there. I would have a backup plan. Drake London

1258
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 17: already ruled out this week. Talk about a team and

1259
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 17: nothing to play for. That's this time of year.

1260
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: No, these injuries.

1261
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 17: His teams are eliminator out of it. Why would these

1262
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 17: people come back so something to consider their Seedee Lamb,

1263
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 17: he's in concussion protocol. Marvin Harrison Junior wasn't at practice

1264
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 17: today with the heel issue. Michael Wilson's turned into like

1265
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 17: Jerry Rice in his absence, So if you're sitting on

1266
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 17: Michael Wilson, you're hoping Harrison Junior doesn't practice tomorrow Remadus

1267
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 17: week with his foot issue. I thought dj moarrim was

1268
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 17: going to fire off in his absence last week. No,

1269
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 17: he got negative points, so I'm not sure whip Berry's

1270
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 17: ride out. I'm interested in here. Garrett Wilson could come

1271
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 17: back from my art. I am happy to report that

1272
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 17: Mike Evans and Dalalen McMillan have been activated and will

1273
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 17: play tonight. So Evans was dropped out there. I'm sure

1274
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 17: he's already been scooped up in your league. I'd feel

1275
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 17: a little bit relucant putt him out here against the

1276
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 17: Falcons unless you absolutely need it. But you got him

1277
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 17: on the roster, could work out come Fantasy playoff times.

1278
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 17: And then that quarterback Daniel Jones. I'm meaned Buzzkill City

1279
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 17: for the Colts fans, but I did have to go

1280
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 17: out and pick up Philip Rivers in my superplex league.

1281
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 17: I'm not going to start him here against Seattle, but

1282
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 17: I lost Jones and Jaydon Daniels in the same week

1283
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 17: in a two quarterback league and its playoff time and

1284
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 17: Jaydon Daniels reading his elbow doesn't look serious, but again

1285
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 17: the Commander's on the way to nowhere and even worse

1286
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 17: news for the Commanders potentially career ending ACL knee injury

1287
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 17: for Zach Ertz, definitely out of the season and on

1288
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 17: a team that really has nothing to play for.

1289
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 2: Ye huge bummer. Dan Klaskin's host of Fantastics Insider Football

1290
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 2: on Serious XEM Fantasy, Give me your week fifteen studs,

1291
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: duds and sleepers.

1292
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 17: All right, let's start with a couple of rookies of

1293
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 17: studs Man and Jackson Dart. He actually TOPPS my ranks

1294
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Speaker 17: this week at the quarterback position. I'm expecting big things

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01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 17: here at versus Washington and Dart went healthy has proven

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Speaker 17: to have that rushing four Fantasy managers once so at

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Speaker 17: the veryt least the top five option. Well, he was

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Speaker 17: a sleeper on last week's segment here on the program,

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Speaker 17: but this week he's moving up. The stud Harold Pannon Jr.

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Speaker 17: Hopefully he got him into the lineup after we got

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Speaker 17: him advised last week. He scored twenty five plus points

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Speaker 17: in PPR League this week he's against Chicago. He's number

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Speaker 17: four tight end off my board, so outside of brock Byers,

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Speaker 17: Trade mcbrider, George kill, this is my next guy on

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Speaker 17: the list, which speaks pretty highly of him. On the

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Speaker 17: dud side, Justin Herbert. That hand is making me a

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Speaker 17: little nervous. He did get a lot of rushing last week,

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Speaker 17: but I'm not expecting a ton of points here at

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Speaker 17: Kansas City. He's outside my fifteen and Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 17: Perhaps one of the biggest busts of the season. This

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Speaker 17: guy was going on the swing of round one and

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Speaker 17: round two in August drafts. Now he's having a tough

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Speaker 17: time crack in my top forty. He hasn't had more

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Speaker 17: than three catches in a game since Week eight. If

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Speaker 17: he's battled your injuries, he's not a guy you want

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Speaker 17: to have in there with all the marbles on the

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Speaker 17: line this week and then the Sleepers forty marks seventeen

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Speaker 17: plus touches in five straight games for the Texans. He's

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Speaker 17: got Arizona. They're giving up the fourth most fantasy points

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Speaker 17: to the position. So I like him this week, and

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Speaker 17: I like Juwan Jennings sneaking in as the back end

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Speaker 17: wide receiver too. He's had double digit PPR points and

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Speaker 17: four of his last five. Now he's facing Tennessee seventeen

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Speaker 17: wide receivers. If they had double digit PPR points, they're

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Speaker 17: giving up the seventh most points in the position.

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Speaker 6: So fire Jennings up.

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Speaker 2: If you got it all right, you've been talking about

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Speaker 2: this all year, the Do Good Fantasy Salary Cap Challenge.

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Speaker 2: the minimum donation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, dude, a good call there.

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Speaker 17: We dropped it down to ten bucks on veteran's need

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Speaker 17: donate it to dav I Do Good Fantasy. You get

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Speaker 17: We got over three thousand dollars in prizes, but we

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Speaker 6: So a good way to have some fun play with purpose,

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Speaker 6: all right.

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Speaker 2: Always awesome to have you. I know we're skipping next week.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk again on Tuesday, December twenty third right before.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, we'll be coming back for the Fantasy just in

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Speaker 17: time for the Fantasy Championship, and hopefully a lot of

1347
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Speaker 17: our listeners here still alive. I'm rooting for them, unless

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Speaker 17: they're going against me, of course.

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Speaker 2: Of course. Yep. All right, make sure you check out

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Speaker 2: Do Good Fantasy dot com. Follow Dan on Twitter at

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01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 2: dan Klaskins. Thank you as always. All right, there you go.

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Speaker 2: There's our guy, Dan Klaskins, Fantastics Insider Football on Serious

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Speaker 2: XM Fantasy. It's a couple away from five o'clock. A

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 2: question if you were anti Schwarz coming up, But first,

1355
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: just pretend you're Joe Burrow put yourself in his shoes,

1356
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: which sounds fun. Yesterday it did not. We'll try it anyway.

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Speaker 2: At five oh five on ESPN fifteen thirty, no one.

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Speaker 19: Covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Damn snay, it's up. It's five oh six, This is

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01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. You know what time it is, right,

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01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: it's it's time for the bud Light five o'clock happy hour.

1362
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: And you know how our show works, right, like we don't.

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: We don't have a Friday show because the Bengals pep rally.

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 2: So this is this is our Friday, This is our

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 2: last hour of the work week. That calls for an

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Speaker 2: ice cold bud Light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Might want to pick up a twelve pack for the

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01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: weekend to stock up because we're gonna get snow. I'm

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01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna get a ton of Do you need an excuse?

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Speaker 2: Pick up an ice cold bud Light twelve packs and

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Speaker 2: go do that now the bud Light five o'clock Happy.

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Speaker 2: Our Jay Morrison in fifteen minutes will help us try

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01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 2: to psychoanalyze Joe Burrow and talk about a bunch of

1374
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: different things as they relate to the game on Sunday,

1375
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: Bengals in Baltimore. Ravens T. Higgins again limited today at practice.

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 2: Rashad Bateman and Mark Andrews popped up on the Ravens

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Speaker 2: injury report earlier today. We'll spend time on that with

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: Jay coming up in about fifteen minutes. The Joe Burrow thing.

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: It's been interesting. I got a text a short while ago.

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01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: As soon as I'm done with this show, ESPN Radio

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01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: is having me on. I've mentioned this. I keep an

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 2: eye on, you know, the shows on FS one of

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: the show's on ESPN because I think it's interesting to see,

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01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 2: if there's a story here, how much time they're spending

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: on it. Granted there's not a ton going on in

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: the NFL on a random Thursday. The game tonight is

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01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: sort of a eh. The Sharon More thing is the

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01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: biggest story in sports. It's taking a dark and sinister turn.

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: So everybody is spending time on Joe Burrow. There hasn't

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01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 2: been a show that I've heard or paid attention to

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01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: TV radio podcast that hasn't talked about Joe Burrow's press

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01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 2: conference yesterday. This includes Unsportsmanlike on ESPN Radio, and I've

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01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 2: got some audio from that show that we're going to

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: play a little bit later on. I don't think that

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: by now I have to give you the entire chunk

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01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: of audio from Joe yesterday. It's been more than twenty

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01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 2: four hours. But the cruxt of it is, here is

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01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 2: a guy whose body language, Even if you didn't hear

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01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 2: the audio, if you just saw I don't know, video

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 2: that was muted, that's a guy going through some stuff.

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01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: That's a guy who's not exactly happy right now. That's

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01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 2: a guy who's not having fun. And then there were

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01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: the quotes where he talked about like, this has to

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: be fun, this has to be fun, talked about he's

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01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 2: got there's a lot of stuff going on. He was

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: asked if it's worker, if it's personal, and he just said,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff going on. The bigger story

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01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: for me would be if Joe Burrow said I'm having

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: a blast. If Joe Burrow showed up yesterday and we

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01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 2: got a comedy routine. Now, that's not his personality. So

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01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 2: even if things were going great, you wouldn't expect that.

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01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 2: But they're four and nine. Like, the thing that I'm

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: not expecting from the face of a franchise of a

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01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 2: four and nine team is a lot of levity, a

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01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: lot of laughs, a lot of good times. This season

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: has gone sideways. This franchise has kind of fallen off

1417
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: the tracks. The season has gone off the rails. Whatever

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01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: verbiage you want me to use, I'll use. The Bengals

1419
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 2: are not in a good place. They are on the

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01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: verge of missing the postseason for a third consecutive year.

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01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: While Joe Burrow is in his prime, this was effectively

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 2: his age twenty eight season. They're gonna lose more games

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01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: than they win. Obviously, Joe's injury is the biggest reason why.

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01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: But things aren't good. This is a dark time for

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 2: the Bengals. I know there's a lot of folks who

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01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that, but it is three consecutive

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Speaker 2: years in the prime of your franchise face not making

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: the postseason. These are dark times. These aren't fun. Maybe

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01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 2: jobs are at stake. Certainly there's a lot of a

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01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 2: lot of turnover that's gonna come this offseason. Why would

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow be having fun? You're a fan, right, Are

1432
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: you having fun with this team this year? I'm not.

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 2: Nobody should be having fun, certainly not the guy who

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01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: has the most to lose when the losing continues. He

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 2: is the face of the franchise. Like you heard it

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01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: last year, right, Joe Burrow had the greatest single season

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: of any quarterback in Bengals history. He performed at an

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01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: MVP caliber level. Team make the postseason. There's a lot

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01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 2: of reasons for that. Joe Burrow's play is not on

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01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: the list. Yet. You heard the talking points this past

1441
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: offseason where Joe Burrow took some criticism because his team

1442
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: was on the outside looking in. If you're a starting

1443
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL, you probably get more credit than

1444
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: you deserve when things are going well. You certainly have

1445
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 2: the finger pointed at you when things aren't, even if

1446
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: you don't deserve it. Joe knows that. I think it's

1447
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: fun to be associated with losing. I think it's fun

1448
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: to watch quarterbacks that you are better than get a

1449
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: crack at playing in the most important games. And by

1450
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: the way, and I got this poll question on Twitter

1451
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: at Moeger thanks to United at Heartland Insurance, and I

1452
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: asked it for this reason. The question is about the

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01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: Bengals and Ravens and Kansas City Chiefs, each of whom

1454
01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: are currently on the outside looking into the playoffs. And

1455
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 2: my question is which of those teams, let's assume for

1456
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: a second they don't make it, which I don't think

1457
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: Kansas City will, Baltimore Man, the schedule is really hard.

1458
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not comfortable picking them in the AFC North.

1459
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: Not exactly nuts about investing in the Pittsburgh Steelers, But

1460
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: those three teams right now, which one is least likely

1461
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs next year if we assume all

1462
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: three miss it this year? Which one is least likely

1463
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs next year. Sixty five point four

1464
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 2: percent of you say the Bengals. So you're Joe Burrow right.

1465
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 2: Last year you had to watch Josh Allen and Lamar

1466
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: Jackson and Patrick Mahomes play in the postseason. Jalen hurts,

1467
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 2: You had to watch him win a super Bowl. Those

1468
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Speaker 2: are your contemporaries, your peers. I'm sure you think you're

1469
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 2: better than them. Got to watch them play in the

1470
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Speaker 2: playoffs last year. You were on the outside looking.

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Speaker 5: At this year.

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Speaker 2: Maybe some of those guys aren't going to be in

1473
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs. But if you're Joe deep down inside, are

1474
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: aren't you wondering? Am I gonna be the last? Let's

1475
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 2: just say it's about Lamar and Patrick Mahomes? Am I

1476
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: gonna be the last to get back to the postseason?

1477
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 2: If you're Joe Burrow, aren't you starting to wonder? Is

1478
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 2: this really gonna work out? That doesn't mean you're forcing

1479
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: a trade, doesn't mean you're gonna retire, It doesn't. It

1480
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you're you're gonna throw a temper tantrum

1481
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 2: hold out. It doesn't mean you're necessarily going to do

1482
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:34,680
Speaker 2: anything but I'll say this, the longer this goes, the

1483
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 2: less fun it's gonna be. And in any situation where

1484
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 2: someone's not having a lot of fun, typically they choose

1485
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 2: to stop doing what they're doing, choose to find something

1486
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 2: that is fun. Man, the clock is ticking, and this

1487
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 2: is certainly not the first time we've talked about this,

1488
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 2: and it's not about necessarily pulling a Carson Palmer. Even

1489
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 2: if Joe Burrow is having a blast, the dude's under

1490
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: contract for four more years at some point, at some

1491
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 2: point soon, it's a pretty good chance the Bengals are

1492
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna want to re up with Joe Burrow into the

1493
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 2: next decade. Like I'm sure from a Bengals perspective, it

1494
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 2: isn't you know. Let's just see where things stand at

1495
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 2: the end of the twenty twenty nine season. Even say

1496
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: what you want about this franchise, I'm guessing that's not

1497
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 2: where they are when they come to Joe Burrow with

1498
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 2: a new contract in a couple of years. What do

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01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 2: you think he'll say If the losing continues, What do

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: you think he'll say? If the surgeries continue? What do

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01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 2: you think he'll say if the games persist? Where he's

1502
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: scoring thirty thirty five thirty eight forty points and they're

1503
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 2: not winning. So I guess there's two different ways of

1504
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 2: looking at this. If you're Joe Burrow, how are you

1505
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: not thinking about? All right? I've done this for six years.

1506
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: We haven't won. My quarterback is My quarterback career is mainly,

1507
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: to a large degree, judged by how much do I win.

1508
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance last year, not getting a

1509
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 2: chance this year. I'm always hurt. They're constantly putting me

1510
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: behind bad offensive lines. Although that group is playing well

1511
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 2: right now, we can't build a defense. We've swapped out coaches,

1512
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: swapped out offensive line coaches, tried a different defensive coordinator.

1513
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 2: I've had to stand around here and be the adult

1514
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: while we uh while we draft guys like Jermaine Burton.

1515
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 2: I've watched them mishandle the Trey Hendrickson thing. I've watched

1516
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 2: him bungle the wide receiver contracts to the point that

1517
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: they had to pay those guys more money. They sat

1518
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 2: out free agency last year, they didn't address a very

1519
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: good defense. Like, if you're Joe Burrow, how are you

1520
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 2: not doing like a I don't know a self assessment

1521
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 2: and an assessment of your employer, going, huh, I wonder

1522
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: if I want this to continue, or I wonder if

1523
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I would be better somewhere else. If you

1524
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: weren't doing that, I would wonder what was wrong with you.

1525
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: You could also look at it from our perspective, as

1526
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: fans of the Bengals perspective. If this can sin, if

1527
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 2: this can if you're not worried about Joe Burrow pulling

1528
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: a carson, or it's hiring or demanding a trade, or

1529
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: expressing some level of real deep dissatisfaction, if you're not

1530
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 2: worried about that. Now, do you want a tempt fate?

1531
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Do you want to tempt fate to the degree that

1532
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: another year comes and goes Any year from now Bengals

1533
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 2: are playing out the string, losses outweigh the wins, not

1534
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 2: making the postseason? Do you want to do it again?

1535
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 6: Like?

1536
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: Try him? That's what I would say. If this is like,

1537
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 2: because I've seen this. You know, the folks who think

1538
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: that everything is just great with the Bengals three hundred

1539
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: and sixty five days out of the year, the national

1540
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 2: media is making a lot out of little. They're making

1541
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: a big deal out of nothing. Okay, Let's try it.

1542
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 2: Let's see where this goes. If the losing continues, Let's

1543
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 2: see where this goes. If the surgeries continue, Let's see

1544
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 2: where this goes. If the bad defense continues, Let's see

1545
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 2: where this goes. If the bad drafts continue, Let's see

1546
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 2: where that goes. If his contemporaries, his peers keep winning rings,

1547
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: keep playing in playoff games, keep winning MVPs, Joe Burrow

1548
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 2: should have an MVP on his trophy, on his trophy,

1549
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: in his trophy case right now, should have won one.

1550
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 2: Last year. Basically had no chance even though he was

1551
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,600
Speaker 2: a finalist because his team stunk. Couldn't even play in

1552
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs last year. Probably not even gonna play in

1553
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs this year. Keep keep doing it, legitimately, keep

1554
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: doing it, and then I don't know. Let's let's take

1555
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: a guess as to whether or not Joe will just

1556
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: get to the end of the twenty twenty nine season,

1557
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: let his contract expire and everything's cool, or make it

1558
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:42,639
Speaker 2: known this isn't a place where he wants to play anymore.

1559
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: Try it, let's let's let's let it continue to me.

1560
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow does nothing. Tony said this today. Joe Burrow

1561
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 2: does nothing unintentionally nothing. This is a purpose driven person,

1562
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: a calculated person, a smart person. He knows everything he

1563
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: says and does, is parsed, is examined, is scrutinized, is discussed,

1564
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: is debated. He knew exactly what he was doing. He

1565
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 2: knew what he was doing when he got up to

1566
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: walk away yesterday and then came back. He knew what

1567
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: he was doing last year when he was obviously angry

1568
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 2: and frustrated as his great performances were being wasted. He

1569
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: knew what he was doing yesterday. He knew message being sent.

1570
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: Ain't having fun. If I ain't having fun, things ain't good.

1571
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 2: If things keep being not good, I'm gonna have a

1572
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: decision to make. Let's let's and if you think it's

1573
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: it's irresponsible and silly to say that he's gonna be

1574
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: an Andrew Locker a Carson Palmer. Okay, I don't entirely disagree.

1575
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: Do you want a temph Thete? Do you want a

1576
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 2: temph thete with Joe Burrow? If I was Duke Tobin

1577
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: or Mike Brown or Elizabeth Blackburn or Katie Blackburn or

1578
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Troy Blackburn or Zach Taylor, the answer would be no,

1579
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: do not temph fatee. Somebody is telling you they're not

1580
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: having fun, keep it not fun. See what happens. Somebody

1581
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 2: is telling you they're unhappy at work. Dude, If you

1582
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: have people who work for you and they're constantly expressing

1583
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: this ain't great, this isn't fun. I'm not getting a

1584
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: lot out of this, and they're good employees. If they

1585
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 2: keep doing that, do not be surprised when eventually they

1586
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 2: go elsewhere. So as the kids say, f around and

1587
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 2: find out. Keep screwing up the drafts, keep screwing up

1588
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: the roster, keep wasting Joe Burrow, keep putting them on

1589
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: the surgeon's table. See what happens, Jay Morrison.

1590
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:38,440
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1597
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1598
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1599
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Speaker 12: This is Football in the Nattie, brought to you in

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Speaker 12: fifteen point thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: Jane Morrison from Bengals Talk dot com and The Growler

1606
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 2: Podcast joins us on Thursdays at buy Jay Morrison on Twitter, Jay,

1607
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: have you enjoyed the twenty four hours or so of

1608
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: psychoanalysis of Joe Burrow?

1609
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 19: No, there's much more interesting things I think that we

1610
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 19: could have talked about. But anything that guy does is news,

1611
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 19: so you've got to react to it, all right.

1612
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 2: What is the appropriate reaction to what Joe Burrow put

1613
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 2: on display yesterday? I don't know.

1614
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 19: I mean, honestly, I was more taken aback by what

1615
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 19: he said after the game Sunday and just kind of

1616
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 19: the flippant nature. And you know that he's so uber

1617
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 19: intense and you just expect him to be really really

1618
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 19: mad about the loss, and that was he was joking,

1619
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 19: and that hable cookie krumbles, that kind of stuff. That

1620
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 19: was more concerning yesterday.

1621
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean, he did say it was personal and football.

1622
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 19: I think people making nationally people are making too much

1623
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,959
Speaker 19: out of it, just assuming he's had enough in Cincinnati

1624
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 19: once out. I think it sounded like something's going on

1625
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,839
Speaker 19: in his personal life, and we know he doesn't like birthdays,

1626
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 19: and everybody was giving him gifts and singing to him

1627
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 19: and making him feel uncomfortable and just just the guy

1628
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 19: having a bad day.

1629
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like birthday gifts, by the way. So here's

1630
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 2: my next in question, and then this is the important one.

1631
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: What's he buying the offensive lineman for Christmas this year?

1632
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 19: Yeah, we don't know yet. I think we'll find that

1633
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 19: out next week. But yeah, that's a good question.

1634
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard to top samurai swords.

1635
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: It is definitely going to be hard to top samurai swords.

1636
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: What is happening with t Higgins right now?

1637
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still going through the protocol.

1638
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 6: He was limited again today.

1639
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: I just you know, when when these.

1640
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 19: Start stacking on top of each other, you really get concerned.

1641
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 19: I no one's told me anything, but I just I'd

1642
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,640
Speaker 19: be surprised if he plays this week. You need to

1643
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 19: take it, you know, the more conservative, safer approach. Getting

1644
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 19: getting two head injuries in the span of three games,

1645
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 19: it's it's not good. And you know the it's going

1646
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 19: to be freezing cold lower than freezing cold on Sunday,

1647
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 19: that turk is going to be even harder, and I

1648
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 19: just I think the smart thing to do will We'll be.

1649
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: Too to sit him out again.

1650
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 6: He has to go.

1651
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,919
Speaker 19: He has to go through a full practice, non contact

1652
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 19: practice before you can see the independent neurologist, and he

1653
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 19: didn't do that. He was limited again today, So I

1654
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 19: would say it's definitely trending towards him not playing.

1655
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: You've outlined this week how historically bad the Bengals are

1656
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 2: against tight ends. It's worth noting Mark Andrews did pop

1657
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: up on the injury report this week in Baltimore, and

1658
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,639
Speaker 2: so it's not that dissimilar from what we talked about

1659
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:16,720
Speaker 2: going into the first time these two teams played, where

1660
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: you worry about the middle of the field. Is there

1661
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: as obvious answers the rookie linebackers can play better. Is

1662
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,759
Speaker 2: there anything Al Golden can legitimately do to fix something

1663
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: that has been as bad as the Bengals have been

1664
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 2: at covering the middle of the field, specifically against tight ends.

1665
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 19: No, I mean, you can't make these guys grow up

1666
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 19: in a hurry there that they believe they're getting better.

1667
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 6: But it's incremental.

1668
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 19: They're not just going to be really good and really

1669
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 19: aware overnight. And you know, part of it is the

1670
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 19: aggression aspect, and they are they are biting on play

1671
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:54,759
Speaker 19: fakes and and really set.

1672
01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 3: To stop the run.

1673
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 6: And that's going to be.

1674
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 3: That was the case with Buffalo, it's going to be

1675
01:28:57,560 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 3: the case again with Baltimore.

1676
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 19: Maybe going man to man a lot would maybe take.

1677
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 3: Care of some of that, but I just I don't

1678
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 3: see that happening. I think they're just going to have

1679
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: to live with it. And I don't think that Bengal

1680
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 3: fans should be excited.

1681
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 19: About the possibility of Mark Andrews not playing because Isaiah

1682
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 19: Likely had a ton of yards.

1683
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 6: He was more of the.

1684
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 19: Tired tight end target than Mark Andrews was when they

1685
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 19: met on Thanksgiving night. That just means more opportunities for

1686
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 19: him if Andrews is out.

1687
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find something to be excited about.

1688
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 17: Jay.

1689
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: So no, I'm not excited about Isaiah Likely, or Mark

1690
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: Andrews or pretty much anybody else.

1691
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 6: Not a lot.

1692
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 2: All right, you're the man, Thanks so much.

1693
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 3: All right, thanks Moe.

1694
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: That's our guy. J Morrison, Bengals Talk dot Com and

1695
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: part of the Growler podcast on Twitter at by Jay Morrison.

1696
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,040
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Speaker 2: room at five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.

1698
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 2: I do have a bit of a question about the

1699
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:55,600
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Speaker 1: Flying Cincinnati for a battle with our Bengals. Will sack

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Speaker 1: Taylor's Orange and Black, bust Baltimore the Beak and whip

1715
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: up a win. Find out when you get the call

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01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: live from Dan Horden Dave Lambe. The game kicks off

1717
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Speaker 1: at one VM coverage starting at nine AM Sunday. Stream

1718
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: for free on the new and improved iHeart Radio app

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Speaker 1: or ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three from six This is ESPN fifteen thirty one.

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Speaker 6: Eggot.

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01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: We spent a lot of time this week on the

1723
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 2: Reds in their pursuit, though I don't think it was

1724
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 2: a real serious pursuit of Kyle Schwarber, and maybe there's

1725
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: still a big name out there. Kutel Marte is being

1726
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 2: talked about as somebody the Reds may trade for. We

1727
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 2: will see. I don't think the type of fan I'm

1728
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:44,879
Speaker 2: about to mention represents the majority, but it is interesting

1729
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 2: to me whether it be in the run up to

1730
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 2: Kyle Schwarber signing with the Phillies or in the days

1731
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 2: subsequent to him signing with the Phillies when we've all

1732
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: reacted to it. I have either heard or read some

1733
01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 2: version of this, Eh signing him wasn't gonna help them

1734
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 2: win the World Series anyway, Okay, on its own, probably not.

1735
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: Some other things were gonna have to happen. The backbone

1736
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty six Reds is probably still a

1737
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: bunch of dudes were on the twenty twenty five Reds

1738
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 2: and a lot of those guys got to be better,

1739
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 2: or you know, they traded for Griffy and it didn't

1740
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: work out. By the way, as a quick aside, do

1741
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 2: you remember how good Ken Griffy Junior was his first

1742
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 2: year in Cincinnati. Go look at the numbers. The Reds

1743
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 2: couldn't use.

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01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 9: That or this.

1745
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 2: It's a lot of money, man like, I don't know

1746
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 2: how about the back end of that deal. Neither of

1747
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: these things do I understand, and I bring them up again.

1748
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't think any of those opinions represent the majority,

1749
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 2: but I've I've heard or read some version of each

1750
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 2: of those multiple times. I don't understand them. One Kyle

1751
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 2: Schwerber on his own, or Pete Alonso on his own,

1752
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 2: or it could tell Marte on his own would not

1753
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 2: guarantee the Reds win the World Series. Nothing does, but

1754
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 2: they would make the team better. They would make the

1755
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 2: team better on paper. And all you're doing in the

1756
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: offseason is trying to make your team better on paper.

1757
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:26,800
Speaker 2: Nothing is guaranteed, of course, or the well, you know

1758
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 2: they tried this before with King Griffy Junior. So you

1759
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 2: fail at this one thing and make a series of

1760
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 2: mistakes around this one thing. By the way, when the

1761
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 2: Rads acquired King Griffy Junior, the reason that team in

1762
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 2: two thousand ended up not being great. They won I

1763
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: think eighty five games. They didn't upgrade their starting pitching.

1764
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 2: The starting pitching in nineteen ninety nine was not very good,

1765
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 2: even though they won ninety six games. And then you know,

1766
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Junior got heart. A lot of things happened. I would

1767
01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:52,760
Speaker 2: go back and make that same trade ten times out

1768
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 2: of ten. The other one I just I don't relate

1769
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 2: to is well being worried about what you're paying him

1770
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. This is a myopic, admittedly myopic way

1771
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: of looking at things. I haven't seen the Reds advance

1772
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 2: in the postseason since I was a freshman in college.

1773
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 2: That's a long dan time ago. We are years past

1774
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 2: our twenty fifth reunion. Like, I don't really care about

1775
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: what who's going to be making what money in twenty

1776
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: twenty nine, twenty thirty, or twenty two. I don't care

1777
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: about who's going to be making what in twenty twenty

1778
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 2: seven when I'm not sure we're going to have a season.

1779
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 2: These are points of view I don't relate to or understand.

1780
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 2: Perhaps they could be explained. Uh, let's see, Patrick, you've

1781
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 2: been waiting patiently. Thank you for hanging on.

1782
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 8: How are you.

1783
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 3: Hehi about love your show? Thanks for having me on.

1784
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 14: Of course this whole Joe Burrow, I'm in a bad

1785
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 14: mood kind of thing.

1786
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 8: I'm not having fun.

1787
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 3: Let's look, just for a second, look back at last season. Yeah,

1788
01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:58,719
Speaker 3: that really really stucked.

1789
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 15: Defense terrible. We should have went to the playoffs.

1790
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 14: Burrow had one of the best seasons I think in

1791
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 14: the history of the NFL as a quarterback, and sometimes

1792
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 14: that's just the way professional sports go. This year, look, Joe,

1793
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 14: I admittedly he might not be happy, but for fifty

1794
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 14: five million dollars a year.

1795
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure he can find a smile. Somewhere he is.

1796
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,839
Speaker 3: His chosen profession is very violent.

1797
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 14: And I don't subscribe that Joe Burrow is injury prone.

1798
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 15: It's just the luck.

1799
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 14: It's the way it happens. And unfortunately, Joe has had

1800
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 14: some bad luck in his professional career where he's been injured.

1801
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 14: And he is one of the most elite quarterbacks ever

1802
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 14: to play in this league. And unfortunately, if he's hurt, him.

1803
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 3: Isn't gonna win.

1804
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,840
Speaker 14: And to no fault of Joe Burrows, but I was

1805
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 14: little disappointed yesterday. Maybe he's having a bad day, maybe

1806
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 14: he broke up with his assistant or whatever. Who the

1807
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 14: heck knowes, But those type of things on his level

1808
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 14: of professional of professionalism like he normally is, probably should

1809
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 14: have stayed, you know, behind the door a little bit.

1810
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,879
Speaker 3: I just a little disappointed in Joe yesterday.

1811
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 2: To me, Joe has always been the kind of guy

1812
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 2: who's gonna tell you exactly how he feels good or bad.

1813
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: You know, if you go back to his second season

1814
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 2: and this is you know, not a big deal, but

1815
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 2: he was asked about like his chain or his sunglasses

1816
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 2: and whether they were real or knockoff, and he's like, dude,

1817
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 2: I make too much money. Of course, it's real. Like

1818
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 2: you asked him a question, He's gonna give you an answer.

1819
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: We had Joe Burrow on our show the day after

1820
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 2: he was drafted, and I asked him, why didn't you

1821
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 2: go to UC? And he gave me an answer that

1822
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 2: a lot of UC fans got mad at me for,

1823
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: which was I couldn't win a national championship there. So

1824
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 2: if you ask him, he's gonna If you ask him

1825
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 2: a question, he is going to give you an answer.

1826
01:36:56,439 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that about him. So to me, if yes,

1827
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, like what's wrong, He's maybe not going to

1828
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: give you excruciating detail, but if he's having a bad day,

1829
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: if he's not in a good mood, I think he's

1830
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: gonna convey I'm having a bad day and I'm not

1831
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 2: in a good mood. And I don't have a problem

1832
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: with that.

1833
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 14: I don't have a problem with it either. And yeah,

1834
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 14: everybody's kind of have fun at work. But if I'm

1835
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 14: making fifty five million a year, even other players in

1836
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 14: the league, you know, it's like say, it's a violent,

1837
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 14: violent sport.

1838
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily blame the Bengals front office.

1839
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 14: For all their injuries. They have made countless mistakes. We're

1840
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 14: not gonna sit and argue that they have not because

1841
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 14: they have and have not given Joe the talent on

1842
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 14: defense to win as they have on offense. But I

1843
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 14: think Joe's gonna be fine. I don't think he's gonna quit.

1844
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 14: I don't think he's going to force a trade. I

1845
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 14: just think, like you said, he was having a bad

1846
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 14: day yesterday, and I think everybody needs to move on

1847
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 14: a little bit because it's you know, I don't think

1848
01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 14: it's as bad as everybody thinks.

1849
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't think it's I don't think. Look,

1850
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 2: I don't think Joe's asking for a trade, don't think

1851
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: he's retiring, don't think he's, you know, putting a gun

1852
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 2: to Duke Tobin said anything like that. I do think

1853
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:14,360
Speaker 2: when your most important person is unhappy a lot, at

1854
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 2: some point that becomes your problem. It becomes your problem,

1855
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 2: becomes our problem with the radio station. If we have

1856
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 2: a chronically unhappy person who's really important, and it's the

1857
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 2: same for the NFL. And so my point is create

1858
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 2: an environment where Joe Burrow isn't unhappy coming to work

1859
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: and the whole like he makes a lot of money thing, Like,

1860
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 2: I get it, but it's still the guy's life. It's

1861
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: still what he works at, it's still his craft, it's

1862
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 2: still his reputation. Coming to work when you're making fifty

1863
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: five million dollars a year playing for a team that's

1864
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 2: going nowhere again can't be fun. And I don't expect

1865
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: him to fake it just because of the amount of

1866
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,240
Speaker 2: money he's making. Patrick, I gotta run, man, Thanks so much,

1867
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 2: Thank mom. You know, I guess Jamar Chase chided some

1868
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 2: people today there is an irresponsible way of talking about

1869
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 2: the Joe Burrow thing. God knows, I have seen and

1870
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 2: heard it today. I don't think it's irresponsible to go

1871
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 2: that's a QB. Who I'm sure, like, I don't know

1872
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 2: what's going on in this personal life and it's none

1873
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,680
Speaker 2: of my business. And maybe he was just having a

1874
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 2: bad day. But he's a smart enough guy to know

1875
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 2: that everything he says, does, every piece of body language

1876
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: is scrutinized, examined, parsed through. If he wanted to fake it,

1877
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 2: he could have. He chose not to, and then you

1878
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 2: just you add up the circumstances. Like the way I

1879
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 2: do it is put yourself in Joe Burrow's shoes. If

1880
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 2: you were a Joe Burrow, you might not be asking

1881
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 2: for a trade, But once you be going like, dude, really,

1882
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,680
Speaker 2: Like the other day, I played my face off, I

1883
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: throw one pick and we have no chance to win

1884
01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 2: because I gotta be perfect. Last year I was an

1885
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,599
Speaker 2: MVP as the best quarterback in the league. We couldn't

1886
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 2: even play in the playoffs, couldn't even make it as

1887
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 2: a seventh seed. I come back from injury and we

1888
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: have to dig ourselves out of a huge hole because

1889
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,840
Speaker 2: we couldn't win games where my replacement scored thirty eight

1890
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 2: and forty two points. Like we drafted Jermaine Burton, who

1891
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 2: I can't throw to now because we had to cut

1892
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:13,800
Speaker 2: him because he's a knucklehead. Like you wouldn't be I would.

1893
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 2: I would find it hard to believe that any of

1894
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 2: us in Joe Burrow's shoes wouldn't be going cod like,

1895
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 2: when's this gonna change? And by the time it does,

1896
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 2: where am I going to be in my career?

1897
01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 6: Uh?

1898
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 2: Fourteen away from five o'clock. An awesome event is coming soon.

1899
01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: You should go to it because it's gonna help. Speaking

1900
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Speaker 2: to Joe Burrow, it's gonna help his foundation help a

1901
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 2: lot of people get to that. Next on ESPN fifteen.

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1912
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1913
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Speaker 2: Signing good players. I'm about to play an interview with

1914
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Speaker 2: Robin and Jimmy Burrow along with Gordy Snyder, who is

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1916
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1917
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1920
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Speaker 2: reason we did is Gordy and Jimmy and Robin were

1921
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Speaker 2: going on a bunch of different radio stations in our building,

1922
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Speaker 2: and so I had to come in early to tape it,

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Speaker 2: which is fine. It's not something we do that often,

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Speaker 2: but it does happen. I decided, you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna do. I'm gonna I'm gonna record this on my own.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna bring out my old producing skills

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna do this on my own. So we're

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Speaker 2: not asking Haarn to come in at nine o'clock in

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Speaker 2: the morning or anybody else. So unfortunately I must have

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Speaker 2: hit the wrong button because the audio quality on this

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Speaker 2: interview is very poor, and so I just I want

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge that it's likely completely my fault. This is

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Speaker 2: why I usually ask folks like Tarin or Austin or

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Speaker 2: whoever who like know what they're doing with the equipment

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Speaker 2: to record stuff. So I think you're gonna hear the

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Speaker 2: interview and hear the crux of it, but I want

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge the bad audio. This is a really important

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Speaker 2: event because it helps out so many homeless children in

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Speaker 2: the Greater Cincinnatian specifically northern Kentucky area. And it's also

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Speaker 2: a really fun again, so again, Marty Graw nky or

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Marty Graw twenty twenty six dot org is

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Speaker 2: the best way Marty graw Nky dot org will work

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Speaker 2: as well. And the Burrow Foundation is partnering with the

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Speaker 2: folks who put on this event and it's gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 2: And so here is a few minutes with me and

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Speaker 2: Gordy Snyder and Jimmy and Robin Burrow from earlier today.

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Speaker 2: And again my apologies for the all whole sounding audio.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's Fat Tuesday, so that's easy to remember right

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01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 7: from home seventeen and we're going to have probably over

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Speaker 7: fifty restaurants and purveyors they're serving serving all kinds of

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Speaker 7: great food Cajun style food or New Orleans style food

1952
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Speaker 7: to help, you know, celebrate the event. It's in their

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Speaker 7: thirty fifth year. And just a little bit about how

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Speaker 7: this event started. Thirty six years ago, there was, unfortunately

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Speaker 7: at tragic situation in Cincinnati where four Holmost children were

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Speaker 7: locked in a abandoned garage by their father. The garage

1957
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Speaker 7: caught on fire, and burnt down. All four children perished.

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Speaker 7: So all of a sudden, everybody in Cincinnati is like,

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Speaker 7: oh my god, what's homeless. You know, homeless is one thing,

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Speaker 7: but then you put children in that equation, yea, it's

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Speaker 7: a little tragic. So, you know, the Northern Kentucky Restaurant Association,

1962
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 7: when they heard about this, decided to do something about it,

1963
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Speaker 7: and we started the Marti Grop for Home benefiting Holmost Children.

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Speaker 7: And the money goes towards three different benefits of Bethany

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Speaker 7: House of Cincinnati, Brighton Center of Northern Kentucky, and Welcome

1966
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Speaker 7: House of Northern Kentucky. And all the money raise goes

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Speaker 7: to feed children in these facilities. So it's just a

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Speaker 7: great it's a great party with a great purpose.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy and Robin the Joe Burrow Foundation, I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: get a lot of requests, a lot of asks, and

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Speaker 2: you want to help as many people as possible.

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Speaker 8: I can tell you from experience with the work that

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Speaker 8: these folks do. You guys have chosen a good one.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 20: It aligns with Joe's mission statement with the Foundation to

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Speaker 20: provide resources and support for the underprivileged and the underserved.

1977
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Speaker 20: When it in terms of food insecurity and children's mental health.

1978
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Speaker 20: So when we were approached with Marty gral which for

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Speaker 20: us is Louisiana based, so we love that, and then

1980
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Speaker 20: to feed homeless children, it really does align with.

1981
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Speaker 8: What Joe wants to do in the community and what

1982
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Speaker 8: we you want to do as a family and a foundation.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times, Robin, you hear of foundations, and

1984
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 2: folks may hear of the Joe Burrow Foundation. Jimmy just

1985
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Speaker 2: outlined some of the goals, but give us an idea

1986
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Speaker 2: of sort of the origins.

1987
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Speaker 8: Of the foundation, how you choose which initiatives are going

1988
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Speaker 8: to be involved in, and ultimately the work that you

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Speaker 8: guys do.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 21: So really, the foundation was sparked from Joe's Heisman speech

1992
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Speaker 21: where he addressed food and security in Southeast Ohio when

1993
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Speaker 21: he was up there accepting the Heisman Trophy, and that

1994
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Speaker 21: really just was a catalyst for us to be able

1995
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Speaker 21: to help people in Southeast Ohio specifically. And then shortly

1996
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Speaker 21: after Joe said, you know, this seems like I've got

1997
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Speaker 21: a pretty good platform and could really help a lot

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Speaker 21: of people, and so he launched the Joe Burrow Foundation

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Speaker 21: shortly after that, and the three areas of focus for

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Speaker 21: US regional or geographically are Southeast Ohio, Cincinnati, and then

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Speaker 21: of course Baton Rouge with Louisiana ties. And we want

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Speaker 21: to be able to get back.

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Speaker 8: To all of those communities.

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Speaker 21: And so this event with the ties with Marti Gras.

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Speaker 8: And Louisiana.

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Speaker 21: Background, it seems like a great fit and we're very excited.

2007
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Speaker 21: We were really excited to hear that one hundred percent

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Speaker 21: of the gift and our sponsorship would go directly to

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Speaker 21: serving children in the Cincinnati area.

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Speaker 8: All right, Gordy, let's talk about the Night of the seventeenth.

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Speaker 2: For folks who hear this and want to be a

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Speaker 2: part of it, I can emphasize enough how cool of

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Speaker 2: an event this is.

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Speaker 8: Where do folks go to get tickets? What else do

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Speaker 8: they need to know?

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Speaker 7: Well, they can go to our website Marti Gras and

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Speaker 7: ky for Northern Marti Graky dot org or the easy

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Speaker 7: one is Marti Gras twenty twenty six dot org.

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Speaker 8: Wow.

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Speaker 7: Either one of those sites will get them to where

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Speaker 7: they can buy tickets, where they can see more about

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Speaker 7: the event. Certainly would love to have corporate sponsors or

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Speaker 7: associations jump in and provide a sponsorship to helpe raise

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Speaker 7: money for this For this benefit, we raise about two

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Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars a year a little bit over and

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Speaker 7: for two point nine million into thirty five years we

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Speaker 7: had the event running our thirty four years. This saventy

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Speaker 7: fifth year, we'll actually go over three million marks, so

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Speaker 7: we're really excited about that, and we're also excited to

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Speaker 7: have the Joe Burrow Foundation as our presenting sponsor.

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Speaker 2: I cannot recommend that event enough. It's Tuesday February seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: Marti Graw twenty twenty six dot org or go to

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Speaker 2: Marti Gras NKY dot org. It is going to be

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Speaker 2: a blast again Tuesday February seventeenth at the Northern Kentucky

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Speaker 2: Convention Center. And my sincere apologies for the audio quality

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Speaker 2: you just listened to there. That was It's it's been

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Speaker 2: a few years since I've run aboard, and I tried

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Speaker 2: to today and I hit the wrong button. So hopefully

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Speaker 2: you could hear that audio and it worked out. But again,

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Speaker 2: the most important thing is you have a chance to

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Speaker 2: help homeless children in our area and have a great

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Speaker 2: time in doing so. February seventeenth, Mardi Gras nky dot org.

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Speaker 2: Bengals pep rally is in our place tomorrow. I know

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Speaker 2: it's going to snow tonight, but if you're on the

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Speaker 2: east side of Cincinnati, will be at Belterra Park at

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Speaker 2: the FanDuel Sportsbook for the Thursday night football game. We've

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Speaker 2: got some cool prizes to give away. Don't forget Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: We're at the Holy Grail before the Bengals game. Hope

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Speaker 2: you join us beginning at nine a m. We're done

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Speaker 2: thanks to a tarn plan for producing. Thanks to you

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Speaker 2: for listening, and have a great night. This is ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.