1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Now I'm here and I got a text from somebody 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: that something's going on with Tomlin. I mean, we'll see 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: maybe after the break well, I don't know. It's hard 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: to he should go. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what, holy crap, what this is really? 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 3: Adam Schefter After a historic nineteen season run in Pittsburgh, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin just informed his team that he is stepping 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 3: down as the Steelers head coach. 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler tells. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Me, good, Wow, good, that's a great Dare I say great? 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: I did not see this coming at all at all. 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 3: I'm a little speechless right now. I'm shaking, kind of mark. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: This is massive news. A nuke was just dropping. Well, 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: here's here's what I don't like. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: And now everything I've prepared for today's show just got flushed, 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: flushed down the toilet. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 4: But but but. 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: He didn't deserve to go out by calling his own 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: shot by stepping down. 20 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: He deserved to get fired. 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm indulging semantics here. 22 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 3: As long as it happens, right, I mean, fine, you're 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: you're right. Sure he should have gotten fire because he's 24 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: a failure down the stretch. But he's gone, you know 25 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: what I mean they're moving on the franchise, moving in 26 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: a different direction. If they wanted to do this the 27 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: pr way whatever, they did it though. 28 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm dumbfounded too, but you know it's absolutely the right move, 29 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: and it's the right move on his part. Two because 30 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: he just I mean, I also that text said there's 31 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: other factors behind this. 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: I just can't believe mister Friday Afternoon was right all along. 33 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: The Ravens and the Steelers are gonna swap coaches. 34 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: I bet tom Win does not coach this shure. I 35 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: bet he, I bet he's I bet he does TV. 36 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: I think you're right about that too. Do you think 37 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna be good to TV? 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: Everybody thinks that's a layup for him too. I don't 39 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: know about that. He might be great, don't get me wrong, 40 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: but let's see it. 41 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: My hunch is no, because he has so many empty 42 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: platitudes and then you'll have to actually analyze. But people 43 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: eat the penaltudes. They don't care as long as he's 44 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: not the Steelers coach anymore. 45 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: And he's not. 46 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: Like I said, I got told by this text. I 47 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: got two texts. 48 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: Your face you looked angry. 49 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: No, I'm not angry. 50 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: No, no, No, when I am angry because now I. 51 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Wish he would have done it like tomorrow, because or 52 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: an hour ago or something. Now my show preps just 53 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: shot the crap. But but but again, I'm told there's 54 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: other circumstances here. 55 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: But the bottom right is Mike Tomlin. According to who 56 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: was it, Schefter? 57 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: Schefter was the one that I saw, Yes, Jeremy Fowler 58 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: was the one here. 59 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Tomlin has informed his team he's done as the coach 60 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well know what's good about that? I mean, 61 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot good about that. It means Rogers won't 62 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: come back. 63 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: He's done yet. 64 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, those two can go on vacation to the 65 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Caribbean somewhere because they're so in love. 66 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: But do you think he retired Rogers. 67 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: I don't think he even I think he should. 68 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: I think he should retire because, uh, his last year 69 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh wasn't all that bad for him. 70 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 4: Okay, in New York he was a crack pot and 71 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: a loser. 72 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: He came here, got the team in the playoffs, conducted 73 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: himself not totally exemplary, not down near the end, but better. 74 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: And I think he goes out on well, not last 75 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: night a winning note. But but he did have a 76 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: winning season. I think it's funny though, that he took 77 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: himself out after what might turn out to be his 78 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: last pass ever was a pick six. 79 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. 80 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: And Brady, if you remember in New England, his last 81 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: pass in New England was a pick six in a 82 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: playoff game against Tennessee, and everybody was wondering, Wow, what 83 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 3: a weird legacy moment for him there. 84 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: It's funny to see. 85 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: And Brady obviously went to Tampa and one other Super Bowl, 86 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: but his career in New England ended on that note. 87 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: It's funny to see these two all time greats end 88 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: on such a sour note like that, as opposed to 89 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning getting carried off the field by Papa John 90 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: himself after limping to that Super Bowl. 91 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was actually pretty good. But no, but yeah, 92 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no sympathy for Aaron Rodgers. I mean, 93 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: he he damaged the team more than he helped him. 94 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: But I like, I don't what to say to I'm 95 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: babling because Tom wents out. I mean, we'll double triple check. 96 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: But Mike Tom went out as the coach the Pittsburgh 97 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: Steelers reel. 98 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: I mean it's going crazy viral right now. 99 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: It's damn reel some huge breaking coaching news. 100 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: North Hills High School was bringing home state championship winning 101 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: quarterback Eric casperovit to succeed the retiring Pat Carry job 102 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: well done by Packing graduates, as to Casper, who coached 103 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: previously Mars and Pine Richland. And oh yeah, Mike Tomlin 104 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: just quit. You heard how I opened the show. If 105 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: Tomlin had an on surprise he'd quit, he was listening clearly, 106 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: and he did. 107 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 4: I'm not kidding. 108 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin is stepping down as the Steelers coach, and 109 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: I think it's the right thing for the Steelers, and 110 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I don't really give a damn if it works out 111 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: for Tomlin. Tom what will Tomlin do next year? What's 112 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: your thinking? Because there's a lot of open coaching positions 113 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: out there, But I can't see him, nor would I 114 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: if I were him, I wouldn't want to get right 115 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: back in that mix, would you. 116 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 3: I'm surprised that John Harbaugh is so gung ho to 117 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: get right back into that mix. But I think Tomlin's 118 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 3: going to go to the media route, and that seems 119 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: to be what people are starting to say, is a 120 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: lot of the belief in the NFL circles right now 121 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: what we're hearing. 122 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: You know, these insiders. 123 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: He wants to do TV like Coward did, at least 124 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: for a year and maybe hit the reset button on 125 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: the coaching landscape. 126 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: You know what seemed like a last straw is we 127 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: have a SoundBite from Bill Coyle. We're gonna play later. 128 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: He was on the Dan Patrick Show and he even 129 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: said it might be time for Mike Tomlin. As it 130 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: turned out, he was correct. Yeah, absolutely, I mean when 131 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: Bill Cower says it, tom right. 132 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: But Bill Cower went through this and his time wasn't 133 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 3: even as apparent as Mike Tomlin. His time came on 134 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: the heels of winning the Super Bowl. 135 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: Well no, he still he had one non playoff year 136 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. Come on, was one year removed 137 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: from Well, Bill was a much better coach than tom 138 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: when he got to a bunch more AFC Championship games, 139 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: you know, won a Super Bowl, got to another Super Bowl, 140 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: got to a Super Bowl with Neil O'donnoll at quarterback, 141 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: which is the only time the Steelers ever made the 142 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: Big Game. 143 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: Without a Hall of Fame at QB. 144 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: So I think Bill was much better than Mike, and Bill. 145 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: Made the Hall of Fame. 146 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: I I guess tom Win probably still will, although he 147 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: will I think I think I don't know if this 148 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: is a factor, but I think him getting out of 149 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: this situation at Pittsburgh keeps him from coaching his way 150 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: out of Canton, because I think there was a slight 151 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: danger that. Then again, like I'm not afraid to say, 152 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: as the league's preeminent black coach of his era, you know, 153 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: he was, you know, mostly immune to criticism, and I 154 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: think immune out of not going to Canton. 155 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: You know, Cower. 156 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: It'll be the only other living person to hold that 157 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 3: job right now in the world, the Steelers head coach, 158 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: you know. I think him saying that on the Dan 159 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: Patrick Show, it's just like you got to read the room, Mike, 160 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: like I did back when I was there, and you 161 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: got to just recognize that it's time to have a 162 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: clean split between the two of you. And that's what 163 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: it lives presented as with the mutual decision. 164 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: We got the course he on at three thirty. He's 165 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: a big time Tom Win defender. I can't wait to 166 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: hear what he has to say. And it's a totally 167 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: logical decision. It's one hundred percent the right thing, no 168 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: matter what people were saying to defend Tomlin before it happened. 169 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: But you know what the Steoges are gonna say, Tom, Well, 170 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: if the next guy gonna do any better? 171 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 4: Maybe not. 172 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: And maybe that's a good thing, because you know what 173 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: this team needs on top of a coaching change a 174 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: four and thirteen season, they need to clean house with 175 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: the new coach. Maybe it's a rebuilding coach. Maybe it's 176 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: a Michelle Terry and Dan Muess type of situation. But 177 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: with the Steelers, and the next guy is not gonna 178 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: be the guy who wins the franchise because of Tom 179 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: when leaving it long last has a chance to think 180 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: big picture and think beyond next season. But I still 181 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: wonder if they will. I wonder if the owner is 182 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: that smart. I don't think. 183 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: So. 184 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: You have to get over the romantization of oh, we 185 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: just have the succession plan of coaches, where you just 186 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: pick a coach and he wins a Super Bowl and 187 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: he goes to the Hall of Fame or three for three. 188 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 3: You probably are gonna go three for four. Now, I 189 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: mean the odds that you're gonna have a four for 190 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: four run on that is so, butically. 191 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Have a plan on the next guy being the reorganization 192 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: guy and the guy after that wins. They can't hold 193 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: onto this outdated or organizational philosophy that every coach has 194 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: to coach forever. 195 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: Sure, but you also have to be open to if 196 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: you hire a guy and he just hits a home 197 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: run out of nowhere and he's a great offensive mind. 198 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: That's the other thing where I'm at right now is 199 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: I want to shift to an offense coach, anybody offensive mind, 200 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: and even younger than Stefan. 201 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 4: No Or Well. 202 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: That brings me to my next question. Will they go 203 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: get an established name because they. 204 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: Never had to? 205 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: Don't do that? 206 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Noel Coward, Tom Win all all assistant coaches that were 207 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: thought to be up and comers. Will they try that 208 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: again or will they go get an established name? 209 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: What do you think? 210 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: I think they're going to go try an up and comer. 211 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: I think they're going to try to shake because that's 212 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: how Dad and grand Dad done it. But I don't 213 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: hate that strategy in this circumstance following Daddy and grand 214 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: Dunny here, I kind of like that, don't you. I 215 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: don't want an established recycled guy. Give me someone new 216 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: in theory. But I don't know what on more CON's 217 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: face is going to be. But I don't think that's 218 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: a good call. 219 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: I don't think the owner could find his wrectum with 220 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: a funnel, and we expect him to find the next 221 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: Knowl or Cower or even Tomlin. 222 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: I don't trust him to do that. 223 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: I wonder if that's what made this decision, you know, 224 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 3: so delayed as far as it coming. 225 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: Do you think Tomlin really decided it or do you 226 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: think that he was pushed. 227 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: I want to say there was a little push just 228 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 3: out of my gut, right like, I have no reason 229 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: to believe that, but I think there was a little 230 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 3: bit of art being like, you know what, I think 231 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: it might be time now, Mike. 232 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: Last night obviously was the last straw. It was a route. 233 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: It was the Steelers being non competitive despite a very 234 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: deceiving score going into the fourth quarter at seven sixth Houston, 235 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: and it was just so same old story. It felt 236 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: like everything that's been happening in all those other playoff games. 237 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: That for me, if indeed Tomlin was pushed, and I 238 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: think there had to be an element of that, and 239 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: due to other circumstances as well, But but the fact 240 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: that it looked the same as all the crap that 241 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: had happened, only the only difference was they got rotted 242 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the game and not at game's beginning. 243 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: And Art did say at the end of last year, 244 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: got to win a playoff game, like it's enough already 245 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: put He put words to. 246 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: That, and they didn't use the term all in, No, 247 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: but their actions dictated that and everybody picked up on it. 248 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: It was all in to win a play to win 249 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: a playoff game. 250 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, not all in to go on a Super Bowl run, 251 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: but to win a playoff game, and him putting voice 252 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: to that and be like it it's about time that 253 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: we win a playoff game, which is about as delicately 254 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: as he could say publicly win an f and playoff game. 255 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm glad to see him actually. 256 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: Follow through with that, that he actually, you know, laid 257 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: out some stakes at the beginning of the season and 258 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: then if there was some push from him follow through 259 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: on those stakes not being delivered. 260 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 261 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Do you think the organization was blindsided by this year? 262 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: Do you think guards saw it coming? Like like if 263 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the push was there, How strong was the push? Did 264 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: they think it would happen the day after the season ended. 265 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure Art had to think that there's a possibility 266 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: that this could happen, right, I mean, there's so much 267 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 3: noise around it, and not just this year, last year too. 268 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: This has started to kind of kick up. 269 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: Want me to give you a scenario. 270 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I think Art said to Tom when yesterday, Hey, 271 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: we have to sit down and talk about the direction 272 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: of this. And Tom was said, if we have to 273 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: talk about the direction of it, I'm out. 274 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: You mean after the Texans game. Yeah, he said, hey, 275 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: come to my office at some point tomorrow. We got 276 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: to hash these things out, or. 277 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 4: Even we got to talk about this soon. 278 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: And again this is total conjecture, but this strikes me 279 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: as the kind of thing Toma would do, you know, 280 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: because he just thinks he's never wrong, or in this case, 281 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: he thinks he's so wrong that he can't be right 282 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: ever again. 283 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 4: And that's why I quit. 284 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: But I would think that when the possibility of looking 285 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: at the big picture was even broached, that he was 286 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: being called in a question that he could have very 287 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: easily said, okay, see you. 288 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: Later, especially after nineteen years right, Like if he was 289 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: like maybe on year nine he could think I want 290 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 3: to still be the coach here, I would. 291 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: Guess he feels hard done by if indeed he was pushed, How. 292 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: In that and the world could he convince himself of 293 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: that that he's hard done? 294 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: I don't know. 295 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: He's gotten the benefit of the doubt, more than any 296 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: coach in the history of this league, more leashed than anybody. 297 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: You're telling me, No, I'm just telling everybody. 298 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been calling for his dismissal for the 299 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: best part of a. 300 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: Decade, and I was white right, there was reason to 301 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: say that all this stuff you said at the beginning 302 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: of the show today before we found out about this news, 303 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: like it sounded like you were coming down so hard. 304 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here across the room, it's like everything 305 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: you're saying is just fact. Any other city would be like, 306 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 3: this is way past this expiration date. It's honestly ridiculous 307 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: that he's still here and now he's not. It's unbelievable. 308 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 3: You know what else is? And I'm gonna be honest, 309 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: I'm celebrating this. 310 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: I think it's like people think I hate the Steelers no, 311 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I hate what they become and I want them to 312 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: be better. And if this is the first step on 313 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: the road to them being better, and if they finally 314 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: take steps backwards to move forward, I'm okay with that too. 315 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Like if they go four and thirteen next season, you 316 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: idiots can go to Acroshorn boo all you want, but 317 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: maybe then you finally get the quarterback and you don't 318 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: draft Kenny Pickett because he shared a parking. 319 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: Lot with you. You know it would be a good Tom. 320 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,479 Speaker 4: Let's do this next segment Worst Tom win decisions. 321 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: Oh wow, do we have enough time in this break 322 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: to the narrow those down to like three or four? 323 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: Do I have enough time in this show to talk 324 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: about all of them? One oh five nine the X. 325 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: Tonight's the Pens Face the Lightning. Game time is seven. 326 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the 327 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: best coverage right here on your Home of the Pens 328 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: one O five nine d. 329 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 5: X Rob King here. 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The Steelers because of that, 340 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: retain his rights and if he would go coach another team, 341 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: they would be entitled to compensation. In other words, Tomlin 342 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: could be traded. I don't suspect aren't win into the 343 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: second being soft as baby crap would exercise that. 344 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: Heck DK forfeit. 345 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: It is guaranteed tens of millions, and Rudy gave it 346 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: right back to him after that suspension. But in theory, 347 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Tomlin could be traded. I'll be honest, everything I prepare 348 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: for today's show just got flushed. Thank you, coach and such. 349 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your reaction to this. And where do 350 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: they go from here? Who replaces Tomlin? Do they hire 351 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: an up and coming assistant like they did with Noel 352 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: Kower and Tomlin, or. 353 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: Do they go get a recycled name. 354 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm get Stefanski knows the division, great offensive mind, very 355 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: highly regarded respect in the locker room. That's who I'd 356 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: go get. If you don't go the route of the 357 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: up and coming assistant. I have a feeling that's the 358 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: way they'll do it, because that's how dad and granddad 359 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: did it. And here's one from way out there. It's 360 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: so outrageous. I bet the B team's been talking about 361 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: it for ten minutes. So dumb, but yet here we go. 362 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: I'd call Kurt Signetti at Indiana and make him say, 363 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: don't laugh. I'd call Signetti at Indiana and make him say, no, 364 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: he's got that injured thing going. He could come home 365 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: and coach the Steelers. Tom tell me he ain't dreamed 366 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: about that. 367 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they love doing that too. Getting local guys 368 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: a local tie like that Signetti would be just like 369 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: a total home run as far as like the optics 370 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: are concerned for the Steelers. 371 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 3: That said, if you were him, what would you say? 372 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: I would say, no, you can't leave Indiana. You're gonna 373 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: be the Alabama for the next five to ten years 374 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: in college football. 375 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 4: Not only would I say no and hold up across 376 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:40,359 Speaker 4: and say. 377 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: The power of Christ compels you. 378 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 4: The power of Christ compels you. 379 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: I'd say to Art the second I ain't coming there 380 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: for your exorcism, baby, do that yourself. 381 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: Do you think Tom want to host an exit press conference? 382 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: Tom, That's what I'm wondering right now. I don't know. 383 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: He hates the local media, yeah, and and treats them 384 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: like dirt, So I would think it's more likely. I 385 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: don't know his pressures tomorrow normally, right, I would think it. Oh, 386 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: that's right. I bet he's Oh he didn't do it today. 387 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: Not no, But I bet he talks to like Rich 388 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: eisen or Jay Glaze or one of his kiss butt 389 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: buddies and does it that way, does the exit interview 390 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: that way, And that's fine. 391 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: I don't care as long as he's gone. 392 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there is still just a chance, though, 393 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: that he would do the exit interview because it was 394 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 3: the mutual agreement to part ways. 395 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: It was Mike Tomlin's decision to leave. 396 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 3: Like if the Steelers fired him, they wouldn't trot him 397 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 3: out there and be like, all right, coach, go in 398 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: front of the podium and answer all the questions after 399 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: we just canned your ass. So that's the only like 400 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 3: inkling or the sliver of hope, hope, the sliver of 401 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: chance I think it has. 402 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: Let me throw something out there that I mean, we're 403 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: never gonna know the whole story, but let me tell 404 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: you what makes me think maybe he was pushed more 405 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: than they're letting on. 406 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: Last night he said I'm not thinking big picture. 407 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: At all, which he never does. 408 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: So either clearly lied what she does all the time, 409 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: or he got pushed after he said that. 410 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: I really kind of I don't know why, but I 411 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: think there was a. 412 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: I could see art, well there should be. 413 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: I could see art saying Mike, we need to talk 414 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: about this, and him overreacting and saying I'm gone, you know, 415 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: because he just doesn't think he's ever wrong well, like 416 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: I said, or he quit because he's he knows he's 417 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: so wrong and did such a bad job. 418 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: He doesn't think he'll be right anytime soon. 419 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: And you know, he just did his Buddy Rich eyes 420 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: in the week before the Texans game, and Rich asked 421 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: him that question set him up for it, like are 422 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: you thinking about moving on? You hear all this noise 423 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 3: and he was like, I don't listen to that, and 424 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: he said he was institutionalized. 425 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: I've been on a team since whatever. 426 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you put two and two together. I think 427 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: he was pushed for or overreacted like I said to 428 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: even ownership, wanting to. 429 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: Discuss his future about saying that the direction's not working 430 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 3: right now, Like he gave you enough leeway to keep 431 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: doing it the Tomlin way, maybe we need to do 432 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: it a different way now, and he was like, there 433 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 3: is no different way than the tom Away. 434 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think what they said to him, however, subtly 435 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: was screw you, you're fired. I don't think that. But 436 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: but if it was something in between quitting and that, 437 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: well I think that's no less than what Tomlin deserved. 438 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: Let's play. 439 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: We got to Bill Cower sound bite from the Dan 440 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Show. It's it's Bill talking about the potential exit 441 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: of Mike Tomlin. But but what he had to say, 442 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: and for Bill to say, it's significant it turned out 443 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: to be prophecy that shortly thereafter got fulfilled. 444 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 6: Well, here's questions will be talked about. I think you 445 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 6: can't be impulsive. I think you can't take nineteen years 446 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 6: of being together and make a decision in nineteen hours. 447 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 6: I think you got to make sure we sit back, 448 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 6: take some time off, come together and again you know 449 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 6: this will be something with art Omar and Mike was 450 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 6: sitting in a room, Bill talk and what they see. 451 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 6: I mean, they know it better than I know it 452 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 6: from the outside looking in and try to put in 453 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 6: place a player moving forward. And if they can do 454 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 6: this together, we'll do it together. And if they can't, 455 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 6: they won't. So I mean, I think there's a lot 456 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 6: of soul searching it needs to be done at this point. 457 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 6: But I think Mike's earned the right to do that. 458 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 6: And I think from a Standbouy standpoint, also Art and 459 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 6: Omar have a chance also to talk about what's the 460 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 6: direction that we have, So those conversations will be had. 461 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: It's a long standing relationship. There's a lot of respect there. 462 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 6: But as we saw in Baltimore, sometimes these things have 463 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 6: a life cycle. When they come to an end. 464 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: They do have a life cycle. 465 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: This did come to an end, and like coach Kyerr said, 466 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: well one thing he got wrong. You can make that 467 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: decision in nineteen hours and the Steelers and Tom Win did. 468 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: Do you think this It all ties into the Harbaugh 469 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: dismissaling Baltimore, where if Baltimore could end that run, maybe 470 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: Art felt more because the more I think about it, 471 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: I bet tom Win made the final decision, but I 472 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: bet he felt like it was the only decision that 473 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: he was left with. 474 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: I see what you're saying, Like the Ravens were the 475 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: first team through the breach right where all the media was. 476 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, I can't believe they fired Harbaugh. 477 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: Every team's gonna want Harbaugh now he can pick his job. 478 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: You know what the difference is. And forgive me for saying, 479 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna speak facts. Harbaugh's white, and nobody wants 480 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: to criticize the preeminent black coach. And that's just a fact. 481 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying that's wrong. I'm not doing 482 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: like Rooney roll blah blah blah. That's just how it is. 483 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: That's one thing besides never having had a losing season 484 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: that's always got tom win the benefit. 485 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 4: Of the doubt. 486 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: I'm really excited to go after the soundbites for tomorrow 487 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: show and see what the talking heads do on ESPN 488 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: and how they talk about it. I wish we had 489 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: them today, I know, but they don't go on the 490 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 3: air until later, and I just want to see what 491 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: they do, how they spin this. And since it was 492 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 3: the mutual agreement to part ways or Tomlin was the 493 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: one that was stepping down though, obviously frame it in. 494 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: People gonna hear stuff without question. But the Harbaugh thing 495 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: they've been saying the whole time, like that's a good 496 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 3: decision by the Ravens. They should have moved on. This 497 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: is the right move for them. That won't be the 498 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: tone with this when it comes to the Steelers side 499 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: of things. They'll be like, oh, the Steelers are in 500 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: trouble potentially. 501 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: Now, this is obviously the right move by the Steelers, 502 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: but they are potentially trouble that it's not a good roster, 503 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: it's an aging roster. They let the roster get betwixt 504 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: and between Tom and that. That was a reason they 505 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: weren't very good this year. Well, no better than ten 506 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: and seven in a first round exit. 507 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: Uh. 508 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: They have a bunch of promising young guys and then 509 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: they have older guys hanging on and very few in 510 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: their prime, you. 511 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: Know what I mean? Like like like, I think Jack 512 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 4: Sawyer is gonna be good. 513 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: I think Joey Porter already is good. I think he 514 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: was great last night. I think there's a lot of 515 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: players on there. Derek Carmon is up and coming back. 516 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: Flashes to the defense look good. But by the time 517 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: they're in their prime. The old dude's gonna be gone. 518 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: So you're rebuilding, whether you want to admit it or not. 519 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Maybe Art figured that out. 520 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: And you know, for some other guys on this team, 521 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: like the Broderick Jones is people like that, Like I'm 522 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: excited to see what a new coach, a new staff, 523 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: new ideas can do to those guys. Maybe they unlock 524 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 3: another level with some of those players that we've been 525 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: waiting to really level up. 526 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 4: Look at the Penguins. 527 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: The Penguins aren't necessarily a lot better, but they're a 528 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: little better, and they feel different and it feels like 529 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: they're moving forward, although actually just displiced in some news, 530 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: Eric Carlson out with the lower body injury, expected to 531 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: miss at least two weeks. That could be a season killer, 532 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: but we're not going to talk a ton about that today. 533 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: Tom We're preempting the Hockey Night Show from five point 534 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: thirty six to get more Tomlin out talk in. 535 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 4: So it clearly is a red letter day. 536 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Okay, next segment, we'll get to the trifecta next segment, 537 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: which is concerned with last night's lost to Houston and 538 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: will also go over some of the biggest mistakes of 539 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: Tomlin's era. I mean the things he did good, they're easy. 540 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: I mean, he won a Super Bowl, got to another 541 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I thought he was a breadth of fresh 542 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: air when he replaced Bill Cower. But I stand by 543 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: what I've said for years, which is that he won 544 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: with Cower's team and his culture and his leaders and 545 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: never replaced or rebuilt any of those. And the further 546 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: we got away from what Coward did, the more that 547 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: became evident. And I resisted that you you may remember 548 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: from from the show Tom I've said even before you produced, 549 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: dating wayback. No, No, he didn't win with Cower's team. 550 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: You know, whoever coaches is the winner. He's the coach 551 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: of record. But the further we got away, the more 552 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: evident it was that that once cower stuff drifted away, 553 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: nothing of similar consequence or structure ever replaced it. 554 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 3: And this won't be his legacy, It won't be viewed 555 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: as his legacy at all. But he is the coach 556 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: that is now leaving the Pittsburgh Steelers in the midst 557 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: of their longest losing streak and playoff history and franchise history. 558 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: That's because all them other guys before Noel, they never 559 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: stuck around long enough and never made the playoffs. They 560 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: didn't even count either, like Buddy Parker or Michelson whatever 561 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: his name was. But yeah, it's just it's it's a 562 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: crazy time and it's a crazy day, and we want 563 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: your reaction next hour. So get the calls in now 564 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: A three, three four one two WSDX and and as 565 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: far as his legac he goes, let's address that real quick, Tom, 566 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: I think people are gonna rememb well. 567 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 4: No, I see. 568 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: I think at the end, he did more harm than good. 569 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: I think the hole he's put this team in and 570 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: has been in for years outshines what he did with 571 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: another man's team and leaders and culture and what he 572 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: did it so long ago you almost don't remember it. 573 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I remember, like the Ben throw to 574 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: San Antonio, but Tom wouldn't coach him to do that, 575 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: the Harrison interception returned. Tom wouldn't coach him to do that. 576 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: And speaking of Harrison, I can't wait to hear player 577 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: reaction to this. 578 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: I'm very curious about it, aren't you. 579 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben Harrison, all those big dogs that do weekly 580 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: podcasts and Aaron Rodgers, Cam Heyward, Oh, no question, I don't. 581 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: When do you think the next time we'll hear from Rogers? 582 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: Though I hope never. 583 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, And like I said, he really 584 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: did restore a bit of his luster in his one 585 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 1: year here at Pittsburgh, which now it's gonna be one 586 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: year in Pittsburgh. 587 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 4: They're not bringing him back. 588 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: He's not playing for a new coach with a new coach. 589 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: He wouldn't want to. He shouldn't want to come back 590 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: here anyway. 591 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: He should retire. 592 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but like. 593 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: His last season was a pretty good season as opposed 594 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: to the stuff with the Jets. 595 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: Yes, but like it's funny. 596 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's a sound bite we'll play this sound 597 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: bite later of Rogers defending tom Went after the game 598 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: when people were asking him about Tom's future, and he 599 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: got indignant, and I appreciate you sticking up. 600 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 4: For your coach. 601 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: But he was here about fifteen minutes and what he said, 602 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: and we'll play it later. And he's like a lot 603 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: of them with Tomlin and now Ding Dong the witch 604 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: is dead. He acted like opinion supersedes results, like he's 605 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: there after he got his ass whipped after Tomlin lost 606 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: another playoff game nine one and Douns in the playoffs. 607 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: They lose last night thirty to six to Houston in 608 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: a game where the Steelers won't competitive Tom and where 609 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: Alan Rodgers was. 610 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: Saying what a great coach he was. 611 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: You know, even if that's true, that's not the time 612 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: you just no comment, high tailed out of there. 613 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 3: Like you said, sure you stump for your guy, but 614 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: you've been here for one year with Mike Tomlin. And 615 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: he threw Matt Lafleur's name in there too, who he 616 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: spent a few years with in Green Bay towards the end, 617 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 3: and it was a very bad ending from a lot 618 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: of people in Green Bay between the two of them, 619 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: and he was like, you know, I love those guys. 620 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy is the coach that Rogers is married to. 621 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: That that's Rogers's coach, that's who all the success. Doesn't 622 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: like him, he just doesn't like him, so he doesn't 623 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: give him that credit. But it's absurd because McCarthy had 624 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: the success with Rogers, the Super Bowl Championship with him, 625 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 3: a couple MVPs with him. 626 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: I got him, Tom, I think I'm shining. I didn't. 627 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: I don't prefer ad lib radio, but I mean, come 628 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: on a day like this, you know what? 629 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: You know what I brought today, tom My notes may 630 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: may not be working anymore, but I brought all that charisma. 631 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 4: One o five nine the X. 632 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: From the one oh five nine the X Weather Center. 633 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 4: Gonna be partly cloudy to mostly cloudy today. 634 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Hi fifty two cloudie with possible showers developing tonight dropping 635 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: down to forty four rain. To start with him, This 636 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: hour brought to us by Shenderovich, Rovi and Fishman. I 637 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: am dumbfounded. If you're just tuning in, Mike, Tom went 638 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: stepping down as Pittsburgh Steelers said coach at two PM. 639 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: I said, if you had an ounce of pride hit quit. 640 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: I guess he was listening. Tom's gonna stick around a 641 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: little bit into the three o'clock y because we're flying 642 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: by the seat of our pants here due to the 643 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: unexpected news. Been in a good way and we're considering 644 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: a lot of things. But first, Tom, what do we 645 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: got for the trifect It's about last night's game. We 646 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: shouldn't forget that this was all triggered by them getting 647 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: embarrassed last night in a playoff game at home. 648 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 3: And the trifecta fits into that theme being embarrassed greatly. 649 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: These are a trifecta of negative history made last night 650 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: by the Steelers. Uh their total yard differential was minus 651 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 3: two thirty three, that is the worst in playoff history 652 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: by the Steelers, and their minus one oh one and 653 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: running differential was the worst at home in playoff history 654 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 3: for the Steelers. And I thought that was the biggest 655 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: failure by the defense. A crap running game ran all 656 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: over them. 657 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: I thought the biggest failure the offense among a whitany 658 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: of coming up short last night. 659 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: They needed to run the ball more. 660 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: That's the same mc. 661 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Rodgers hijacked the offense. Rodgers all year he did, but 662 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: by the end of the year, Rogers was hurting the 663 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: team more than helping. I agree with And one thing 664 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm overjoyed about did Tom win. Quitting means Rogers won't 665 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: be back. 666 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: And I'm sorry to go on a tangent here, but 667 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: Rogers was the reason why Fiarmuth wasn't used as much. 668 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm just stake my flag into that one. 669 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 3: He definitely was the reason. 670 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Why Arthur Smith, a guy who's always emphasized the tight 671 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: end position, didn't suddenly bail on his best two receiving 672 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: tight ends. That was Aaron Rodgers who wanted to get 673 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: over the gimmick of the cast off guys like Cleveland 674 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: and Mvs and Scotty Fing Miller. 675 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: Scotty f and Miller should be in the UFL. He 676 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 4: should be. He should be catching passes from Kenny Pickett 677 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: next year. 678 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: Number two, they lost by twenty four points. That's the 679 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 3: largest home loss in playoff history by the Pittsburgh Steelers. 680 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: No one in Pittsburgh has witnessed in the city of 681 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh a playoff loss as bad as last night. But 682 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: the number one stat that is just so damning. They're 683 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: the first team ever in NFL history to lose five 684 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: straight playoff games by double digits. 685 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh that'll get a coach uh Well to resign. I think, 686 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's the best way to put it. Trifecta 687 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: brought to us by Danny's PiZZ and Hogies, Pittsburgh's original 688 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: oven bake togy since nineteen sixty That's Danny's en Route 689 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: eighty eight and Bethel Park. 690 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 4: When you get your calls in for next hour, I 691 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 4: want to know. 692 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you can bring up names of guys they 693 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: should get the coach, But I want to know what 694 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: kind of coach you want to get. Should it be 695 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: an up and coming assistant as is there want to 696 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: hire and like daddy and Granddaddy did it. And make 697 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: no mistake, that does influence Art the seconds thinking or 698 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: do you want to go out and get a college coach, 699 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: say or Kevin Stefanski. Tom, I'd get Kevin Stefanski. I 700 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: think he's a great offensive mind. He's a two time 701 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. He was hamstrung in Cleveland by 702 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: ownership and with that Deshaun Watson contract. I think he's 703 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: a good fit here. I think there's no chance it happens, 704 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: but I think he's a good fit whatever the hire is. 705 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: You know, I just wanted to be on that side 706 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: of the ball, so Stefanski fits that for me. Whoever 707 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: they go, if it's a retread, if it's somebody new, 708 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: I need their track record to be on offense. I 709 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: need them to be a visionary on the offensive side 710 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: of the ball. It's time to modernize this team. It's 711 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: time to get with twenty twenty five NFL football. That's 712 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: the biggest key here. 713 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: If they hire Brian Flores, who I think, okay, whatever, 714 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 3: he might be a good head coach somewhere. I just, 715 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: I just it's gonna feel the same old, same old 716 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 3: to me, the defensive minded guy. I want new, I 717 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: want different, I want offense. 718 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Here's another name somebody brought up on Twitter, Marcus Freeman 719 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. I talked earlier about Kurt Signetti. But 720 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't think Signetti. I'm sure Signetti not even to 721 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: come back to Inzerland. I don't think he'd leave Indiana. 722 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: He'd be dumb too. I don't think Marcus Freeman. I 723 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: think he might leave Notre Dame not for Pittsburgh because 724 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: this is not a good job right now. It is 725 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: from a standpoint that they keep their coaches a long time, 726 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: that would be very tempting, but there's not a lot 727 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: to work with, and the quarterback situation is just in turmoil. 728 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: That was gonna be my devil's advocate, though, is that 729 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: this is an ownership that has shown ultrauck commitment to 730 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: a coach. So you're gonna feel a good sense of 731 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: security being with the Steelers. And your point is correct. 732 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: This team isn't close to winning, but because you're gonna 733 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: feel that ultra sense of security, and you don't think 734 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: you're gonna get fired, you know, at a knee jerk 735 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: reaction like some of these other franchises. 736 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: You could feel comfortable coming in and building this up. 737 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 3: Don't you think like you'd be like, they're gonna give 738 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 3: me three or four years to kind of get this 739 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: in my mind? 740 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: No, No, I wouldn't feel comfortable. Why you think they 741 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: fire him in three years? I don't think so, because 742 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't think the owner knows what he's doing. Oh no, 743 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Why would I find out? 744 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 5: Right? 745 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: Why would anybody think that this is his biggest Oh, 746 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: you're right, this is his big moment because it's the 747 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: first coaching hire he's had to made. He no young 748 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: guy Tom. It might be the last coaching high. Yes, 749 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: unless he fires the guy after three years, like like 750 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: you said. But I think this is a big moment 751 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: for Art Woney the second and if he did force 752 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: Tom went on, it's a big moment in a positive 753 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: way because at least he didn't get bullied by the coach, 754 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: which I feel certain was happening constantly. 755 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: Yes, how about he leaves now? 756 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: Tomlin right there with Chuck Noll tied at the exact 757 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: same amount of wins, didn't pass him right there, same amount. 758 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: I wish Chuck was still alive because I want just 759 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: to get the one more win. Absolutely I would. Tom's 760 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna stick around for the next thag But what we 761 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: want your calls asap, And the big question is, let's 762 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 1: make it a two parter. What kind of legacy does 763 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: Tom Win leave. I'm sure most people like now, like 764 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: the people who wanted him out, like me, most of 765 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: you will overestimate his legacy. 766 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 4: I will not. 767 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a mediocre legacy where the nine straight 768 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: years of not winning a playoff game at least diminished 769 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl win and never having had a losing 770 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: season and maybe maybe is a bigger. 771 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: Part of the legacy. 772 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: And again, what kind of coach should they hired up 773 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: and cooming assistant college coach established NFL? Name your thoughts 774 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: eight three, three, four one two WXDX if you're just 775 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: tuning in, Mike Tomlin is out as 776 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 4: The Steelers head coach one oh five nine