1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Quotes stereotypes that are just simply not true. And this 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: is true in every occupation. Right, if you're a doctor, 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: people think you're a B and C. If you're a lawyer, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: they think you're D, E and F, whatever the case 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: may be. But what about you know, stereotypes about Christians 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: or pastors and both positive and negative traits that you 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: had come across in all your years with a church. 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: Well, I went to a career day one day to 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: me inviting me to come in and talk about being 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: a pastor for a bunch of sixth graders, And I 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: said to him, I said, all right, well, I'm gonna 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: draw a picture. It's like cartoon a little bit. So 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: I'm gonna draw a picture of a pastor. Tell me 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: what they're like. And the hands started going up, and 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: they said, what kind of eyes does he have? Angry eyes? 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: I got angry eyes. I give this big pushy eyebrow. 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: What does his mouth look like? Big mouth? He's yelling 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: at people all the time. Really okay, So I drew 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: a big mouth and as welles he got giant bible 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: in his hand. All right, what's his other hand doing? 21 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: He's pointing his finger and wagging at the people. I 22 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: draw this caricature of what they thought of when they 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: thought of a pastor. And then I turned to them 24 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: and I said. 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: Do I look like that? 26 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: No, except once smart in the back. Yes. And I 27 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: think I think that's the case for almost all of us, 28 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: related to what we believe, what we do, our occupation, 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: there's all these caricatures of that. I mean, every time 30 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: I tell somebody eventually that I'm a pastor, or not 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: just a pastor, I'm a person of faith, I'm a 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: follower of Jesus, there's kind of this awkward silence, you know, 33 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: and then they're like. 34 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 4: Uh uh, my third cousin twice removed, read the Bible once, 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: and like I get reduced, like the only thing I 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: that my whole life is about this one little thing. 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 4: And you know, we all love caricatures when you go 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: to King's Island or you go to the fair. 39 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: Or something, so they draws a caricature, but we don't 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: like it of ourselves. And we often do that to 41 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: others too, And a caricature artist will take one aspect 42 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: exaggerated beyond the truth. I didn't realize that it's such 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: a big forehead, my nose isn't that big. I think 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: for a lot of people, they have caricatures of Christians. 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: They've never met a real Christian and so all they 46 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: know is what they've heard from a distance. Or maybe 47 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: there certainly we've all been bad examples. I've been a 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: bad example too, where you think, well, I think Christians 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: are all brainless because I've heard that faith is the 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: opposite of evidence, which of course we don't believe that, 51 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: but they've heard that. Or all Christians are hypocrites, because 52 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: there's plenty of us that are hypocrites, and even I'm 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: a hypocrite. But part of hypocrisy is trying to own 54 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: what you do wrong and say, man, I did live 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: up to on standards. Again, I want to admit that, 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to do better, versus sitting on a 57 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: soapbox and pretending that you're suddenly perfect, that you have 58 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: the right to look down at other people. I think 59 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: that's the other caricatures that Christians who are just judgmental. 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: They're not graceful, they're merciful. There's an old Simpsons episode 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: where Ned Flanders is on his way to church camp 62 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: and the Homer turns them and says church camp is 63 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: that where you Christians go to learn how to be 64 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: more judgmental. So I think there are lots of caricatures 65 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: and that ownership is on us and one not careature 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: other people. But as Christians, I want to try and 67 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: show that I'm not like the caricature. I'm distinct, I'm different, 68 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm winsome, I'm honest. I do own my own stuff. 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: So that's kind of the ownership, and that's not just 70 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: true of us as people of faith. I mean, if 71 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: you're liberal, you're probably the caricature of conservatives. You're conservative, 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: you're caricatural liberals. If you kind of grew up in 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: the Union, you have a caricature of you at the 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: company shop and the owners and the white collar workers 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: are like rice versus. I think all of us need 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: to be careful to not reduce people down to some 77 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: sliver of who they are. 78 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: But you know, we do it all the time. I mean, 79 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right. I wish we didn't do it. 80 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: There are a lot of things I wish I didn't do. 81 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: I wish I don't do. I want to get into 82 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: a couple of them specifically, though certainly there are a 83 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: lot of people in every walk of life that are hypocritical. 84 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: You know, a Christian, for a sample, fails to live 85 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: up to the message of love and forgiveness, but they 86 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: preach and they're quick to judge others. That's more of 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: a case help me here, now, pastor. That's more of 88 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: a case of someone who's probably not a Christian. I 89 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: don't mean, I don't mean to throw a blanket over 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: people who are not people of faith. I don't mean 91 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: it that way. What I mean is is that if 92 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: you think someone is a Christian and you see that 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: they're failing to live up to that standard, I guess 94 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: you could say, is that person really a Christian after all? 95 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 96 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: Fair point? 97 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think there's one part of it. I also 98 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: think that I don't know anyone who lives up during expectations, 99 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: and that's religious or irreligious alike. So, but I do 100 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: think if you don't see any fruit, if you don't 101 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: see any indication of someone, I mean, the Bible can 102 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 2: be reduced down to two statements. Jesus just brilliantly reduced 103 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: all the complexity of the Bible to two things. You know, 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: you're learning how to love God and you're learning how 105 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: to love people. So if you don't see any evidence 106 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 2: of someone learning how to love God or learn to 107 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: love people, I would say they probably haven't first seen 108 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: the message that God loves them and God loves people. 109 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: So it begins with you before I try and act 110 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: out on something. The motivation is, man, I saw somebody 111 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: do this to me. When you realize that God the 112 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: universe have and so compassionate to you, you're like, man, 113 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: I didn't really deserve it, and he was so patient 114 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: with me, and I want to try and be more 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: patient and more compassionate with others and the other end. Again, 116 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: we never live up to our own standards, so I 117 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: think it's in our own imperfect way. We are trying 118 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 2: to make progress, not perfection. And I think a person 119 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: of real faith, the main characteristic you would see in 120 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: them is humility, which is I'm humble. It doesn't mean 121 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: I'll struggle there against the bride, but it means I'm 122 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: humble enough to realize, man, I really don't have my 123 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 2: act together, and God love me, and I'm open to feedback. 124 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm open to where I might be wrong, because the 125 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: whole message of the Bible is that I did a 126 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: lot of stuff wrong. So whatever my boss is mentioning, 127 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: my wife is mentioning, my kids are mentioning, this might 128 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: be one of those things. I think humility would be 129 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: one of the main things you'd want to see. But 130 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: certainly there are people who pretend to be one thing 131 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: and they're not, or they think they're one thing that 132 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 2: they're not. And I do think it's fair to say 133 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: you can, you know, judge them by their fruit, or 134 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: you can examine and look for fruit in their life. 135 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: But I do think anytime you think there's some magic 136 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: wand where there's perfect people, I mean, if there's a 137 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: way to make imperfect people perfect on this earth, I 138 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: mean we should bottle that and sell it. Pap would 139 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: be drinking it and passing around to their kids and otherwise, 140 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: you know. 141 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: The other one that that always bothers me and I 142 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: do hear this from time to time, and I just 143 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: scratch my head, I shake my head in disbelief is 144 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: that oftentimes a Christian is perceived as being anti intellectual 145 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: or anti science. Let's start with the science part. Some 146 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: of the greatest scientists household names have been some of 147 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: the best Christians out there, and their science in fact 148 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: led them to being more Christian. 149 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: With every science we have is developed by a Bible 150 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: believing Christian. You think about Louis Pasture and the pastorization 151 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: of milk, getting rid of the idea of a spontaneous generation. 152 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: There was a common belief that you could just throw 153 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: rags in a corner and poof, I would jump a mouse. 154 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: And he came out with the it's not really a law, 155 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: but biogenesis is called which life comes from life. You 156 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: can't get life from non life. You think about the 157 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: father of astronomy, Johann Kepler, and again this guy was 158 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: a Bible believing Chrision Isaac Newton, who was an absolute genius. 159 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: And you can actually google this. You can look he wrote. 160 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: He invented calculus as we know it. He invented everything 161 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: we know about gravitational poll at the time, and he 162 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: wrote as much about the Bible as he did about 163 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: gravitational pool in algebra. So these are really brilliant people. 164 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: And I think that caricature that kind of check your 165 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: brain to door if you're a Christian comes from an 166 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: inaccurate but well traveled phrase about faith. People will say, well, 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: faith is the opposite of evidence. And every time I 168 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: hear that on TV, and I hear it all the time, 169 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: I want to throw some up at the TV. Faith 170 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: is not the oposite the absence of evidence. That's called ignorance. 171 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 2: Faith is putting your confidence in the evidence. You can 172 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: have as much faith as you want in sin ice 173 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: and you're still going to fall through. But you can 174 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: have just a little bit of faith in thick eyes 175 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: and you can walk on it. That's why Jesus says, 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: it's not the size of your faith, it's what you 177 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: put your faith in. I think of it this way. 178 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: Just to science, for example, what makes more sense a 179 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: rational god create a rational universe that can be studied rationally. 180 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. Or an irrational process 181 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: create a rational world that can be studied rationally. Even 182 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: the idea of rationality is built on the foundation that 183 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: there was a mind that created the universe, and that 184 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: that mind was rational and want us to discover about 185 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: him and about his universe, and all of that flows 186 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: out of the very idea of a Christian worldview. 187 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: The last one I want to get to before we 188 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: let you go is the idea the stereotype out there 189 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: yet those of faith are pushy. You know, they're very 190 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: aggressive and trying to convert others. And you told a 191 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: story the other day involving bread crumbs. 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you think about how most people get 193 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: influence to do anything. Number one, they don't know anyone 194 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 2: who believes what you believe, and they don't like anyone 195 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: who believes that you believe. And so the first step 196 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: is recognizing, like any good communicator, where's my audience at 197 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: they have no conscious awareness of me or my message. 198 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: So the first step is honestly, in anything that you 199 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: don't know much about, having a positive attitude toward that person, 200 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: and so that person doesn't come across pushy. They're just 201 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: going to drop a bread crumb. And they mentioned they 202 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 2: went to church this weekend when you said stuff. And 203 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: if you show interest, you know, they may keep talking. 204 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: If you don't show interests, they're smart enough to shut up. 205 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of us, you know, it 206 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what it is, whether it's the stereotypical Amway 207 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: salesman when you're a kid, or the multi marketing person 208 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 2: you're like, listen, can't you read the room? Here? People? 209 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: The cluephones ring and I'm not interested, But However, at 210 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: some point, maybe if you're our good neighbor, the way 211 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: you're living your life, the way you love your spouse, 212 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: the way you parents your kids, people just notice and 213 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: they'll start to have a positive attitude towards you as 214 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: a messenger of that message. And then I get curious, 215 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: and again you're dropping breadcrumbs about You're just talking about 216 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: your life, right, my life. You know what happened this weekend? Well, 217 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: I have a life, and I had to fight. But 218 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: I realized later I need to go back and apologize. Really, 219 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't know people who typically talk about the fact 220 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: they fight with their wife, and you admitted that, you apologize, 221 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: I really struggle with pride, And suddenly they're a little interested, 222 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: and it's like, tell me more about that, and you're 223 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: looking for that that tell me more about that moment. 224 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: And so part of not being pushy with any subject 225 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: is honestly living your life authentically, being a genuine article 226 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: of owning your own stuff. So you show that I'm 227 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: not like the hypocrites in the sense that I own it. 228 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: When I'm a hypogrite, you know, I try and be 229 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: gracious toward other people, just towards myself and others, And 230 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: I think that's what people are looking for, the genuine article. 231 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: So how can I be the genuine article? How do 232 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: I investigate? You might say, no, I don't believe those 233 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: Christian people because I got a bad caricature. I would 234 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: just encourage you to investigate and get to know one 235 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: that's not that way and say what makes them distinct? 236 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: And is there something there? Is? All of us as 237 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: human beings, we have questions about the big things in life. 238 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: Who am I? What happens when I die? What's the 239 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: problem with life? What's the solution with life? And that's 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: why christian too, and breadcrumbs. You're dropping the benefits. You're 241 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: just always talking with the benefits to your life, which 242 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 2: is you know, I just lost my grandmother. This is 243 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: not your story of hypthetically. You just lost my grandmother 244 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: last week, and man, I'm so glad I get to 245 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: see her again. That might be a bread crumb, but 246 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: it's also true part of when you deal with death. 247 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: There's a real hope you can rub into your grief 248 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: that Christianity offers. It's very unique. It comes across in humility, 249 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: it comes across and apologizing. It's just you're talking about 250 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: your regular life. But you are dropping breadcrumbs and see 251 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: if people are interested. 252 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: Well, this is teddy you. 253 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: People don't carry what you know until they know that 254 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: you care. So be a person who cares absolutely. 255 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: And that's great advice, even for those that have not 256 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: reached a point in their life where they're a spiritual person, 257 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: but certainly fighting and avoiding and at least being open 258 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: minded to stereotypes. Chad, have a great rest of your day. 259 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: We'll look forward to catching up with you again next week. 260 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: Sir, good time, Thanks so much. 261 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: All righty Chad Hooven kind enough to join us each 262 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: and every Wednesday at this time for plane Glass, stained Glass, Well, 263 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: joining us about every ten minutes on a regular basis, 264 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: our good buddy, Chuck Ingram Chuck. 265 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: What's the very latest on the roadway? Latest is a 266 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: new accident. It's westbound two seventy five before you get 267 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 3: to the new Richmond exit. Traffics now backing up to 268 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: five mile, and the eastbound two seventy five was running 269 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: slow from Kelwogg to that new construction layout near the 270 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 3: new Richmond ramp. This from the UC Health Tramfhing Center. 271 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: You see health weaightfall Center are off for a surgical 272 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: and medico Obcitycaren expertise called five one three nine three 273 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: nine two two sixty three. That's nine three nine twenty 274 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 3: two sixty three southbound seventy five. Better pass the wreck 275 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: at Cincinnati Dayton. What's left now is over on the 276 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: right shoulder. Also improving southbound seventy one pasts the accident 277 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: in your fields. Irdle break lights start in near two 278 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: seventy five and continue down to Red Bank on southbound 279 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: seventy one. Chuck Ingram News Radio seven hundred walw y WCPO. 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Nine first tenty four cast presented by our buddy Jennifer 281 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: catch Market. Is chili out there? I mean chili. We're 282 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: still in the low twenties. The sun will breakthrough a 283 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: little bit today, We'll see some sunshine up to thirty four. 284 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Then tonight good chance of another half inch to an 285 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: inch of snow, especially for those north of the Ohio River. 286 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Low is twenty eight Tomorrow suns in cloud again high 287 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: up to thirty Tomorrow night we're all the way down 288 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: to fifteen degrees, and then on Friday gonna stay cold, 289 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: sun clouds but only up to thirty seven degrees and 290 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: our lows at night over the weekend into the mid twenties. 291 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: Want to thank Danny Gleese and our producer for all 292 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: his outstanding work as usual, and we close every single 293 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: program by inviting you to consider, just considerate. I'm going 294 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: to pick up my daughter's shelter pet right now. She 295 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: worked at a animal shelter in Fort Worth, Texas when 296 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: she was going to college and brought Journey Girl all 297 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: the way home. And boy do we love her. And 298 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: I think you'll find that if you go get a 299 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: shelter pet, you will fall in love as well. Eight 300 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: fifty six seven Undrewlwis Report. It's sponsored by Land of 301 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Illusion Christmas Glow