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Speaker 1: Reveling in a victory. Monday, le Broncos headed to the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. Of course, the news about bow Nicks

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Guys?

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 4: We're I think I think we're pretty good right getting

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Speaker 4: ready for an AFC Championship game here, even.

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Speaker 3: Though some good imagine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even though it's going to be under unusual circumstances.

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Speaker 4: We saw an interesting stat that the last time a

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Speaker 4: backup quarterback getting his first start of the season came

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Speaker 4: in a conference championship game with nineteen seventy two and

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Speaker 4: Roger Stabach.

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Speaker 2: You ever heard of him?

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Speaker 2: So what I mean?

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Speaker 4: What realistically from a national perspective, when they look at this,

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, not very much. You know, I think

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Speaker 7: Case when he was with the Raiders, played a bunch

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Speaker 7: in fantasy and he threw for three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: people know him from that, and otherwise, like he's a

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Speaker 8: So Sean Payton has had some success with backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 8: in the past. Jameis Winston, Teddy Bridgewater. In your opinion,

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Speaker 8: is Sean Payton going to change what he's doing cater

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Speaker 8: the game to Jared Stidhams skill set at all? Or

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Speaker 3: You know, my guess is he'll taylor.

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Speaker 7: To Jared stid It's interesting because like obviously Bo's had

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Speaker 7: it's not like Crime.

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Speaker 3: And Patrick Mahomes, you know, so I think for I.

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Speaker 7: you can win like that. I know the Patriots are good,

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Speaker 7: maybe everyone's expecting, like at least the Broncos will probably

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Speaker 1: How surprised were you by the Buffalo Bill's decision to

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Speaker 1: move on from Sean McDermott today, You know, I.

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Speaker 3: Was, and I wasn't.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's something I was obviously tracking. I've been

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Speaker 7: You know, it's it's hard because like he's a good coach,

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Speaker 7: You know, Sean McDermot is certainly respected.

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Speaker 4: Sticking with Buffalo Ian, uh, are you hearing a couple

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Speaker 3: They got Josh.

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Speaker 7: Prime, prime job. And so you know, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 7: And obviously that's something you know to track moving forward.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to talk about the Houston Texans for

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Speaker 7: He is a really talented quarterback that has not played well.

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Speaker 7: And you know, we've seen this before where a quarterback

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Speaker 3: And you're like, he's literally giving He sort.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he's just hoping.

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Speaker 7: And I think he's better than that. I've seen him

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Speaker 3: Know them them too, but it's on everyone to kind.

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Speaker 7: Of get him to that level of play that he

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Speaker 3: To that spot is obviously huge questions. You look at

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Speaker 7: Are for sure stacked. I mean they are. That is

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Speaker 2: Last couple here for you.

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Speaker 1: Ian always appreciated seeing that reports about Eric the Enemy

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Speaker 2: What's going on there?

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Speaker 7: I don't believe there's any other candidates, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think what they're kind of looking for is.

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Speaker 7: A little bit of accountability on offense. I mean, Patrick

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Speaker 7: to get back to that like serious, serious level of play.

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Speaker 7: Maybe you need it.

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Speaker 3: I think it'll happen. I think it'll be good.

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Speaker 7: I think it'll help Andy Reid, help Patrick Mahomes. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I expect that to be their offensive court and they're moving.

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Speaker 2: Forward, all right. Last one for me here.

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Speaker 1: So we got two hires now in the coaching three

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Speaker 2: Any of those surprising you? And who do you think

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Speaker 3: You know, I would say, I mean, Happley did not

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Speaker 7: I know the Tennessee Titans pushed hard, but you know,

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Speaker 7: the pull of a good friend and confidant, and John

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Speaker 3: You know, I think was probably two much Happily a

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Speaker 7: Candidate, and I think Stefanski and Atlanta made sense to him.

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Speaker 7: that comes tonight. It would be interesting to track.

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Speaker 2: As well, no doubt, Ian appreciate it. We'll check in

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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks guys, thank you, thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, Well, and I don't know, you know, Vance

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Speaker 1: Joseph is the one that's going to be sort of

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Speaker 1: interesting when everything, you know, the dust settles. Another job

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Speaker 1: opening Dave the Buffalo pills this morning.

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Speaker 2: What was your reaction to that.

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Speaker 4: I wasn't shocked given the nature of the league and

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Speaker 4: where we are in twenty twenty five, and I think

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Speaker 4: NFL ownership doesn't have as much patience as they used to, right,

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Speaker 4: And if you go back and look at how many coaches.

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Speaker 4: To two thousand were fired after one season, it would

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Speaker 7: Give you or Derek Stidham, like, take care of the football,

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Speaker 3: See what happens.

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Speaker 1: I think Sean is looking for an opportunity to show

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Speaker 8: My mom's like, honey, there's a message on our machine

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Speaker 2: And tell you those things.

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Speaker 8: And he went to he went to the Raiders and

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Speaker 8: Anyway, we got to send Josh packin. Ye I ken't

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Speaker 1: Like I've heard some stories, like some really bad stories

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Speaker 7: I hadn't heard.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, he just he didn't like to have that

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Speaker 8: We'll continue to break down the game. I again, I

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Speaker 2: So we'll get to all that. They cut me by

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Speaker 1: We've heard a lot of stories around the league. I mean,

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Speaker 2: He didn't always give them all of the information right,

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Speaker 1: So then but then that coaching tree got hired everywhere

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Speaker 8: You know, there's ninety guys in the room and this

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Speaker 1: So a couple of things wanted to get to here. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I like the moments that that the Broncos defense showed

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Speaker 4: think New England is not far behind him. So I

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Speaker 4: mean New England, I think the rushing attack is different.

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Speaker 4: They use a lot of when they want to run it,

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Speaker 4: they'll use a lot of twenty one personnel. They'll line

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Speaker 4: a full back up in the game and they just

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Speaker 4: try to shorten your neck and that bat. I mean,

446
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Speaker 4: Stevenson is a big, strong back. So I think Vans

447
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Speaker 4: will come up with something and the players will execute it,

448
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Speaker 4: but they have to be better against the run. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you want, for everything that New England's defense wants to

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Speaker 4: do to Jared Stidham, the Broncos defense wants to do

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Speaker 4: to Drake May. You want to put pressure on this

452
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Speaker 4: young quarterback. He's had a great year. Maybe he's going

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Speaker 4: to be the MVP. I don't know, is still going

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Speaker 4: to be Stafford, but he's had a great, great season.

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Speaker 4: But he's a second year quarterback, so you must make

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Speaker 4: him operate not in a comfort zone to where he

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Speaker 4: can turn around and hand the ball off. And the

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Speaker 4: Patriots wind up rushing thirty two times in the AFC

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Speaker 4: Championship game, right. That's why again, I think from an

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Speaker 4: offensive standpoint, the Broncos have to find a way to

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Speaker 4: make them play from behind, so you can force Drake

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Speaker 4: May to sort of be the guy and not have

463
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Speaker 4: the running attack of the Patriots line up whenever they

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Speaker 4: want to and just bash the Broncos front.

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Speaker 8: What do you think about the defensive performance opportunistic moments,

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Speaker 8: but got pushed around a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, James Cook did a lot of what he

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Speaker 2: did last year.

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Speaker 8: In the playoffs, So the Broncos rushed for a similar

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Speaker 8: amount of yardage, similar carries. He just put that one

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Speaker 8: on the ground there, and that was a big moment

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Speaker 8: for them, lost momentum for them.

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Speaker 2: And the Broncos benefited from five turnovers.

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Speaker 8: You know, Josh Allen carrying it like a loaf of bread,

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Speaker 8: uncharacteristically lazy with the football there, and so I don't

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Speaker 8: think the Broncos can count on forcing five turnovers against

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Speaker 8: the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you the Bills rush for one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty three yards against the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: You feel it was a pretty bad day. Yeah, you

481
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Speaker 2: would feel like you're going to get beat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and anust the Patriots are that kind of team

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Speaker 1: as well. But you said the takeaways very opportunistic. We

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Speaker 1: were talking about it earlier d around the breaks Alex Singleton,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaquan McMillan one's going to get a

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Speaker 1: lot of covers.

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Speaker 2: That Alex Singleton one was massive, We really was. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Cook led the league in fumbles from the running back position.

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Speaker 4: This year he had six coming in and that was seven.

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Speaker 4: That was a big hit. And those are the type

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Speaker 4: plays that mean so much, specially even more in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs because they we were talking about it before we

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Speaker 4: came on the air. The Bills were ahead at that

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Speaker 4: point seven to three, and they and Josha Allen had

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Speaker 4: just run off a scramble for I don't know twenty

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Speaker 4: some odd yards and you're thinking, uh, oh, you know

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Speaker 4: they go down here and score. Now it's fourteen to three.

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Speaker 4: But big, big plays. That's a lot of times, that's

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Speaker 4: what the playoffs are. We talked about it last week.

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Speaker 4: I said there'll be five or six plays in this game.

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Speaker 4: Broncos have to make, you know, four or five of them.

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Speaker 2: And they did.

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Speaker 4: They toss it left Cook inside the thirty and takes

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Speaker 4: a hit and the ball's not free, and.

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Speaker 2: I think Denver's got it, yes, sir.

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Speaker 9: The Singleton with the pop and Hufungo with their recovery.

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Speaker 9: James Cook, as good as he was this year, led

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Speaker 9: the league in fumbles.

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Speaker 2: He had six fumbles, that is.

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Speaker 9: His seventh and the Broncos, with a much needed turnover,

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Speaker 9: get the football, and.

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Speaker 1: It's the combination right, it's not the takeaway. It's not

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Speaker 1: just the takeaway, it's the offense making them pay for it.

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Speaker 1: It's getting the points off the takeaway. So the march

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Speaker 1: right back down the field and take to get the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: That is something that this iteration of the Broncos has

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Speaker 1: done a pretty good job.

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Speaker 2: This year with. I agree. I mean, I think we

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Speaker 2: that was evident on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, so I do want to play the

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Speaker 1: Jaquon stuff here for a second. But that Nick Benito

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Speaker 1: one coming out of halftime was also pretty cool because

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Speaker 1: I know that he I always say he'd been frustrated,

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Speaker 1: but he's had a really good season.

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Speaker 2: It's been it's been a little quieter than last year.

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Speaker 2: Movie because he doesn't have touchdowns like he had last year,

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Speaker 2: which was just fourteen and a half sacks, but like

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Speaker 2: he didn't even he didn't get all pro nod. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's odd to me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, normally when you have numbers like that, coming

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Speaker 4: off of a year where you had numbers like that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: you're you're gonna get recognized.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think I don't have a good answer

534
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Speaker 2: why he was off to a really hot start this year.

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Speaker 8: He had like, you know, seven sacks in five games

536
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Speaker 8: or something like that, and then he kind of slowed

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Speaker 8: down a little bit production wise, still making the big

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Speaker 8: play when the when the team needed him. That's the

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Speaker 8: thing about Nick Benito, in my opinion, he has a

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Speaker 8: nose for the moment.

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Speaker 2: It's not just you know, he gets it.

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Speaker 8: He gets a lot of sacks, but he has meaningful sacks,

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Speaker 8: game changing type of moments.

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Speaker 2: He's a ball hawk.

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Speaker 8: I mean, we saw him do that last year, picked

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Speaker 8: sixes and picked off that double pass that was called

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Speaker 8: a fumble to the house. He's got speed, he's athletic,

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Speaker 8: and he comes up with those plays. And he chased

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Speaker 8: down Josh Allen at the end of the first half

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Speaker 8: in a hustle play that put him in a position

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Speaker 8: to score a field goal with.

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Speaker 2: No time left on the clock.

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Speaker 8: And those points, those three points end up being the

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Speaker 8: points that win you the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the Josh Allen fumble.

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Speaker 4: First one breaks contain out over the thirty runs out

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Speaker 4: of the thirty five out.

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Speaker 2: Of the forty, he fumbles the ball.

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Speaker 1: The ball is free, oh.

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Speaker 9: Recovered, not still free, and Denver's got it with two

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Speaker 9: seconds to go.

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Speaker 2: In the half and you know what's remarkable to him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's insanity right by myself.

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Speaker 1: But but Tony Romo I was watching it today, was

566
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Speaker 1: crushing Alan and the Bills.

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Speaker 2: He's like, you those timeouts? What are you even running here? Like,

568
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Speaker 2: what's the design? What's the play? I think he's right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, what's the accomplishment here? You just gifted

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Speaker 2: three points or a three point opportunity to your opponents. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's if they'd had a time out with

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Speaker 4: a guy like Prater, then you take a shot at

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Speaker 4: a you know, big, big play and try to try

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Speaker 4: to line up for a long field goal.

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Speaker 2: But they didn't.

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Speaker 4: They weren't able to stop the clock. So I didn't

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Speaker 4: understand really what they were doing in that scenario either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Here's Nick Bonito sack fumble, five man pressure.

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Speaker 9: Allen hit as he crows, the ball is free, it

580
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Speaker 9: bounces around and I think.

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Speaker 2: Covered by the Broncos. Yes, Malcolm Roath with the recovery.

582
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Speaker 9: Allen was hit by Nick Benito as he was about.

583
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Speaker 2: To deliver the football.

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Speaker 1: Third fumble of.

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Speaker 2: The game, created by the Broncos.

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Speaker 9: Defense and Denver in Business at the Bill seventeen would.

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Speaker 1: You have been more aggressive there on that fourth and three.

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Speaker 1: I mean, again, we had to sit here and make

589
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Speaker 1: these decisions.

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Speaker 2: After the fact.

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Speaker 4: But the front from the seventeen but the Broncos, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: I would have taken points. You could take the point, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I would have taken points. I mean at that point

594
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Speaker 4: that puts you up thirteen, right, you're twenty three to ten. Yeah,

595
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Speaker 4: I would. I think I think that was absolutely the right.

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Speaker 2: Call about you. Nate. Yeah, I agree. Again we're playing

597
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Speaker 2: you know, coach here in the studio.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean that penalty. They had a five

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Speaker 8: yard penalty on that drive. They had a six yard

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Speaker 8: pass to start at one yard run and then that

601
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Speaker 8: penalty was it was just a.

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Speaker 2: Lay a game. It was on fourth and three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they lined up to see if they could

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Speaker 1: get a hard count and it didn't work. Which to go,

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Speaker 1: I agree to kick that. You go up by thirteen

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Speaker 1: the it's two touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's such an interesting thing because it kind

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Speaker 1: of goes back to the discussion we had on Friday

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Speaker 1: Fellas about taking points.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We said, well, hey, field goals are probably not going

614
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Speaker 1: to be Josh Allen and in some ways, that's exactly

615
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Speaker 1: what almost happened.

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Speaker 4: As good as Ben Johnson is offensively last night in

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Speaker 4: that game, yeah, hey man, take and the guy said

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Speaker 4: it at halftime the commentators. I think there's there's a

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Speaker 4: real fine line between having confidence in your team and

620
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Speaker 4: want to be aggressive and knowing you're gonna have to

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Speaker 4: score points and just taking gifts that people give you

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Speaker 4: and sure points. So I Ben Johnson, I guess to

623
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Speaker 4: his credit, he's been that way the entire year. But

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Speaker 4: it's the same it's the same thing. And Ben Johnson

625
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Speaker 4: worked for Dan Campbell. Ben Johnson worked for Dan Campbell

626
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Speaker 4: when Dan was in Miami. So you think about the

627
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Speaker 4: Detroit Lions, who may never get back. Who knows the

628
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Speaker 4: NFC Championship game three times, he's got chances to put

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Speaker 4: relatively easy points on the board.

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Speaker 2: He goes for fourth and one was fourth and eight.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I want to give PJ.

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Speaker 1: Locke a little bit of love on this one last interception,

633
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Speaker 1: and only in part because he picked up the offense

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Speaker 1: Bonick through an interception to Dean Walker defense win right

635
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Speaker 1: back and got the ball back to him.

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Speaker 4: Allen pumps Waks loads it up home run, ball down

637
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Speaker 4: the middle of the field.

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Speaker 5: Ball's interception, PJ Lock with the interception down the east sideline.

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Speaker 9: He goes and the Broncos happened at their own forty

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Speaker 9: fourth turnover created by the Broncos defense today. Allen thought

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Speaker 9: he had an open receiver for a touchdown, put a

642
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Speaker 9: little too much air underneath it, and Locke came back

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Speaker 9: and made the interception inside the ten, returns it to

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Speaker 9: the forty and we've got a time out on the field.

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Speaker 9: Denver's football officially from their thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: I love the way you said that, because it did

647
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Speaker 1: look like he was open for a second. Do you

648
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Speaker 1: think Zach Allen's pressure, like kind of in the face

649
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Speaker 1: of Josh maybe had him put a little under it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what happened on that what he

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Speaker 2: was seeing.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't remember if if Zach Allen, I just

653
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Speaker 4: don't remember that with that kind of specificity. But I

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Speaker 4: do remember Josh Allen pumping once. If you if you

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Speaker 4: pump one time in like at the elite level of football,

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Speaker 4: and then you try to throw the ball deep down

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Speaker 4: the field, that's that's a tough ask, even for a

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Speaker 4: guy with that big arm and I thought he's I thought,

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: He saw PJ who was on the other hash yep.

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Speaker 4: But when you pump it once you're not sure and

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Speaker 4: then throw it, PJ will flatten out all of a

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Speaker 4: sudden and say, okay, where is he pumping? And he

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Speaker 4: was heading back towards the receiver.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it seemed like Josh Allen was trying to influence

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Speaker 8: the safety to the near side. Yeah, hufongo with that pump.

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Speaker 8: Didn't see PJ Locke, which is curious. You think they

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Speaker 8: would have a route to hold him there, and there

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Speaker 8: was nothing there for him to get, you know, glued to,

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Speaker 8: so he could kind of watch it develop. And he

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Speaker 8: tracked that thing like a center fielder and ran right

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Speaker 8: under it.

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Speaker 2: And there's the thing of beauty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so here we go. So we have

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Speaker 1: your call, We have the bills call, we have the

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Speaker 1: West would call. Which one do you want to hear first? Dave, uh,

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Speaker 1: just whatever?

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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good? All right?

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Speaker 1: Here was your call of the Jay Kwon McMillan, and

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Speaker 1: it was officially an interception.

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Speaker 2: Deep ball down the field.

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Speaker 7: The ball is.

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Speaker 2: Intercepted.

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Speaker 5: Jae Kwon McMillan, Oh my goodness, the Bill Sideline thought

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Speaker 5: that Brandon Cooks had it, Jae kwon Cook it away

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Speaker 5: from him, both players went.

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Speaker 1: Airborne, And I thought what you and Rick did after

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Speaker 1: that was fantastic because you guys did sort of break

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Speaker 1: down the nuance of like, Okay, well wow, that is

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Speaker 1: really really close.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean you saw the replay it again,

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Speaker 4: as we talked about earlier in the show, you just

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Speaker 4: couldn't get a good shot on the replay of Brandon

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Speaker 4: Cook's ever completely having one hundred percent control of the

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Speaker 4: ball when he was on the ground, unlike what we

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Speaker 4: saw from DeVante Adams last night in the game against Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Did you think, because after the game, former Bill's head

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Speaker 1: coach h mcdarmott he said that they should have taken longer.

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Speaker 2: Like I would have had no problem had they taken longer.

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Speaker 4: Meither in a playoff game with obviously everything on the line,

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Speaker 4: in a game changing play like that late in the game.

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Speaker 4: The main thing is you just want to make sure

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Speaker 4: you get it right. So yeah, they they they didn't

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Speaker 4: take enough time, which I think exacerbated Buffalo's feelings like well,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, we're just kind of getting you know,

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Speaker 4: rough rided into this thing.

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Speaker 2: Are you guys even looking at this or you just

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Speaker 2: telling me?

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Speaker 4: I could understand how Sean McDermott would have been upset

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Speaker 4: with that, But when you look at it, you know,

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Speaker 4: in a slow motion sort of way, I think the

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Speaker 4: officials got it right.

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Speaker 2: So all challenges in the in overtime have to come

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Speaker 2: from New York or whatever, or the or upstairs. But

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Speaker 2: it was a turnover turnover, right, so there was no

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Speaker 2: to be had. You couldn't challenge it.

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Speaker 4: Well, but Buffalo called time out, so that's where you

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Speaker 4: would look at it. And I think again, I think

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Speaker 4: the officiing crew would have been better to say, we're

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Speaker 4: looking at it now. But the Buffalo sideline first felt

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Speaker 4: absolutely certain they had the ball. Then all of a

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Speaker 4: sudden they don't have the ball. First down Denver's offenses

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Speaker 4: on the field, because you can see mcdermo standing with

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Speaker 4: his arms extended, palms toward the heavens, like what happened here?

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Speaker 4: So at that point, I think, you know, more communication

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Speaker 4: with the officials, but he had to take a time

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Speaker 4: out otherwise Denver was going to snap the ball.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, pretty remarkable all right. Here is the

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio five fifty wgr Call Chris Brown. That's right,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Call here we go.

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Speaker 2: He's in the shotgun blitz coming. Bill's pick it up,

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Speaker 2: Allan looking deep.

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Speaker 9: Down the field.

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Speaker 2: He's got Cooks who goes up and makes it unbulitt?

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Speaker 2: Oh is it intercepted? It's inner accept it.

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Speaker 9: They got pulled out of the arms of Cooks for

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Speaker 9: and I in t on an unbelievable play by Jakwan McMillan.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm. I would be interesting to hear what they because

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Speaker 1: I got the benefit of hearing your discussion with Rick afterwards.

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Speaker 1: This is what they sent us earlier this morning, so

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Speaker 1: it'd been interesting to hear them sort of break that down.

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Speaker 1: I imagine the same way, like wait a minute, and

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Speaker 1: maybe from the Bill's side of things, Like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you probably are looking at it from the.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the sad thing about it is you've got

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Speaker 4: people in the NFL that are not sure exactly what

747
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Speaker 4: a catch is anymore, right, I mean, you got two

748
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Speaker 4: wide receivers in the room here. It's like the It's

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Speaker 4: like the des Bryant catch in Green Bay against the Packers.

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Speaker 2: I will forever think that was a catch. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: the catch it's.

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Speaker 4: Like the box score historyal show. Yeah, it's just crazy.

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Speaker 4: So you had Tony Romo, yes, who absolutely? And and

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Speaker 4: uh Orlosky yes yes, Now let me tip it. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if Romo was but Orlowsky for sure, yes,

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Speaker 4: thought that that was absolutely a catch by Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 2: And he's a football guy, he's a he knows football.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that one's confusing with dan Orlowski because he's

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Speaker 8: usually smart on that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.

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Speaker 8: I don't see how you could see that play, know

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Speaker 8: the rule and say that that was a catch for

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Speaker 8: the offense. It was clearly moving, he did not secure

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Speaker 8: that thing as he was going down, and Jake Kwon

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Speaker 8: snatched it right out of his.

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Speaker 2: Hands, and I well, I mean, we'll won't know.

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Speaker 1: But the discussion is, if Jaquon wasn't there, would he

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Speaker 1: been able to even hold on to the ball, especially

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Speaker 1: at that speed landing on his back with the ball

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Speaker 1: kind of fluttering And if it falls to the ground,

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Speaker 1: then nobody's even debating it.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, it was not a catch.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, if if Denver finds a way to win

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Speaker 4: this game on Sunday, goes to the Super Bowl. And

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Speaker 4: by the way, the early odds, if the Broncos would

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Speaker 4: represent the AFC and Seattle would be the NFC winner,

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks would be.

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Speaker 2: A nine point favorite. If the Rams and the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Get together in Santa Clara, the Rams would be an

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Speaker 4: eight point favorite. If it's New England in Seattle, Seattle

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Speaker 4: in the early line would be a three and a

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Speaker 4: half point favorite, And if it's New England in the Rams,

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Speaker 4: the Rams would be a three point favorite.

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Speaker 1: No respect, No respect. You want to hear the Westwood

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Speaker 1: call with golick in Ryan Radkey. Here's the call, Allen

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Speaker 1: and the gun gets the snap, let's coming. Allan back pedals,

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Speaker 1: He's looking hastop, go and deep. Tell the little Brandon

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Speaker 1: Cooks is.

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Speaker 7: There and he.

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Speaker 6: Could not make the catch and the passes intercepted. It's

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Speaker 6: picked off by Jake one McMillan. Want to play by

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Speaker 6: McMillan who intercepted at the Denver twenty yard line and

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Speaker 6: the Bills turn it over for a fifth time in

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Speaker 6: the game.

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Speaker 5: You know was trying to catch up and just put

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Speaker 5: his hand up and try to wave to get in

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Speaker 5: the way.

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Speaker 2: He ended up with the ball.

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Speaker 9: But what tew you when when Cooks went on the ground,

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Speaker 9: it looked like they both had it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is really interesting.

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Speaker 9: That looked like it was simultaneous possession going to the ground.

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Speaker 2: Cooks was on the ground. It looked like they both

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Speaker 2: had it, and then McMillan pulled it away. This is

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Speaker 2: gonna be really interesting, came back. That's right.

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Speaker 4: That would be the play of the if the Broncos

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Speaker 4: win Sunday and win the Super Bowl. To me, that's

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Speaker 4: the play of the year for the for a team

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Speaker 4: that is a super Bowl championship team, because if he

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Speaker 4: doesn't make that play and Brandon Cooks kicks it or

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Speaker 4: catches it, Bill's gonna win.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yep, So, Dave, and the pantheon of great plays

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Speaker 8: that you've witnessed at that stadium in all those years,

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Speaker 8: where is that one ranking?

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Speaker 2: Wow, gosh, that's a good question. I hadn't thought about that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you would have to given the magnitude of

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Speaker 4: the game and the and the circumstance of that individual game.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not like they're playing Week three and

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Speaker 4: they're You're playing an AFC divisional game and the game

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Speaker 4: is in the fourth quarter, right, So, and the game

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Speaker 4: is in overtime.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me, so I mean it's up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, it would be a top certainly a top ten

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Speaker 4: play of all time I think for the Broncos in

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Speaker 4: that stadium, and maybe even higher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah,