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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's

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Speaker 1: Knees Radio.

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Speaker 2: It was just about a week ago. Well, little let's

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Speaker 2: more than a week less than a week ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: less than a week ago. I had an interesting guest

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Speaker 2: during the eight o'clock hour. Her name is Amy Lennaker

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Speaker 2: uh and she talked about stress awareness and work and

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Speaker 2: she's written a book called Cheers to Monday, The Surprisingly

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Speaker 2: Simple Method to Lead and Live with Less Stress and

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Speaker 2: More Joy. Uh I really enjoyed my conversation with her.

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Speaker 2: She's a former C suite executive uh and is now

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Speaker 2: a trusted leadership advisor to Fortune one hundred companies and

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Speaker 2: public sector organizations. Stress isn't about the price of success.

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Speaker 2: It's the thief that steals it, and she proves it.

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Speaker 2: Proves it in her new book, The Surprisingly Simple Method

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Speaker 2: to Lead and Live with Less Stress and More Joy

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Speaker 2: Cheers to Monday. Amy, When you were with us a

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Speaker 2: week ago, we didn't have the opportunity to give call

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Speaker 2: as a chance to talk to call in, and the

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Speaker 2: idea of doing this time tonight is to give people

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to call in and talk about stress that

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Speaker 2: they have, particularly as any really anywhere in their lives,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of stress comes from our jobs. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back to Nightside, Amy.

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Speaker 3: First of all, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's great to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, it will hopefully be great to talk to some

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Speaker 2: listeners as well, because look, I was very stressed today

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Speaker 2: and had a stressful day that had nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with my work. It had I'm going to try to

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Speaker 2: be as generic about it being specific. I work with

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Speaker 2: computers a lot, and once I know how to work

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Speaker 2: with my laptop on my desktop and I get it down,

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Speaker 2: I'm very comfortable. But whenever I'm in a situation where

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Speaker 2: I have to somehow maybe create a PDF, put it

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Speaker 2: need to create the PDF and I need to put

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Speaker 2: it into an email to send to someone, which is

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Speaker 2: what I was doing today, and it's no fun. It's

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Speaker 2: no fun. And no matter how many times I say

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Speaker 2: almost like somebody who for the first time is driving

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Speaker 2: a stick shift and all they're driven are automatics before.

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Speaker 2: What tips can you give me in that situation? If

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Speaker 2: for me, the thing that causes the most stress in

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Speaker 2: my life. Are dealing with a computer situation and I'm

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Speaker 2: not comfortable. I'm asking myself to do something that maybe

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Speaker 2: I did three months ago. But I'm just normally, I

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Speaker 2: just put myself. I moved the mouse around. They know

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Speaker 2: was not bing bang boom. I'm done today, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: And I've of course had other things to do, like

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Speaker 2: prepare for my show and get to the gym and

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Speaker 2: all the stuff that you do during the course of

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Speaker 2: the day. What do you do other than like you're

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Speaker 2: gonna tell me breathe and count to ten, because that

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Speaker 2: doesn't work either.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, But I've got two ideas for you. So

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Speaker 3: the first one is you can call me. Creating PDS

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Speaker 3: is my superpower. So the next time you're stuck, reach out.

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Speaker 3: I love to help you. And if I'm not available,

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Speaker 3: then with the kind of stress that you're describing, yes,

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Speaker 3: it's stressful in the moment, but that what you're describing

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Speaker 3: is acute stress. It's short term, it's short lived, and

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Speaker 3: you're able to you'll send off the document and then

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Speaker 3: you can rec so what you described. If you get

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Speaker 3: that through the day, that's okay, and even reminding yourself

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Speaker 3: trying to avoid is the long term chronic stress. That's

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Speaker 3: where we're going to have the detrimental health health outcomes.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, well, well let's let's let's talk about long

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Speaker 2: term chronic stress. Is that is it related to often

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Speaker 2: five most stressful uh reoccurring situations? I think that's what

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Speaker 3: Sure that sounds great. So in terms of the where

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Speaker 3: absolutely places where stress comes from. And I I bet

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Speaker 3: of other places where it comes from. What's different about

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about job stress. What's you call? Is

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Speaker 2: it that people are being asked too much to do

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Speaker 2: too much and we are being asked to do more

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Speaker 2: drop them on other people's desks. We could just put

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Speaker 2: as opposed to making our life easier, actually made it

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Speaker 3: And if you look at Gallup, there's a gold standard

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Speaker 3: of burnout at work is unfair treatment, So either you

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Speaker 3: course workload always makes the top five causes of burnout

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Speaker 2: what I want to do is bring people into this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Got a couple of callers. We're going to get to them.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a very quick break. This is our quickest

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Speaker 2: Cheers to Monday. I have a friend of mine who

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Speaker 2: Cheers to Monday. You know, the funny thing about it

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Speaker 2: But when I do that, I don't feel stress. Once

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Speaker 2: How do I pick topics that will involve more people

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray, I'm telling you Bzy Boston's

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Speaker 2: I will tell my story, but I want to go

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Speaker 2: Let me go first off to Linda in Weymouth. Hey, Linda, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 5: Hi Ami. I am stressed just about every single day.

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Speaker 2: Linda, I'll give you a suggestion, and I know that

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Speaker 2: Amy's going to give you a much better suggestion, But

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Speaker 2: here's here's a suggestion. Before you go to bed at night,

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Speaker 2: next day. They could be really simple things. By stamps

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Speaker 6: Go ahead, Amy, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Now, Damn, that's great advice. I think we might have

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Speaker 3: to co write my next book together because I was

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Speaker 3: one of the things I was going to offer to Linda. Linda,

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Speaker 3: the other thing I would offer is to start with

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Speaker 3: some kindness for yourself. I know you mentioned that you

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Speaker 3: don't always get to what's most important, but you're healing

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Speaker 3: I love Dan's idea to write down a few things

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Speaker 3: at night. There's some really interesting research, Linda that shows

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Speaker 3: people who do what Dan just described, those who write

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Speaker 6: Welcome, thank you for taking my call. Dan and Amy.

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Speaker 6: So I have a lot of stress from several different things,

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Speaker 6: time you get COVID you have long COVID. It exacerbates

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Speaker 6: the problem. Do everything in your power not to get

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Speaker 6: COVID again. So now I don't go into crowded places,

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Speaker 6: I don't take my wife out to a restaurant. I'm

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Speaker 6: avoiding family affairs. How do I deal with this?

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Speaker 2: A great question.

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Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you called, Larry, and I want

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Speaker 3: to start just by saying that as a as a

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Speaker 3: mom myself, I really relate to how you're feeling about

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Speaker 3: your son and your daughter. I think as a parent

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Speaker 3: there's a very unique kind of stress that we feel

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Speaker 3: when we're worried about our children, and especially in this

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Speaker 3: situation that you described that yours are in. In terms

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Speaker 3: of what we can do for you, I think it's

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Speaker 3: really about how can you think about your stress in

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Speaker 3: those two different paths. So the first one is you've

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Speaker 3: got your health stress, and it sounds like you do

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Speaker 3: have a support you are seed folks to help you

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Speaker 3: through that. I specialize in the non health I'm not

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Speaker 3: a medical professional, so what came to my mind was

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Speaker 3: about connection. And we know that one of the biggest

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Speaker 3: reasons for stress is when we feel disconnected. And I

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Speaker 3: wonder if there's some of that perhaps that's happening with

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Speaker 3: your daughter, especially given the distance, and with your son,

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Speaker 3: given what he does for a living in a high

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Speaker 3: a high stress job himself. So what are your thoughts

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Speaker 3: about that, What would it look like to be more

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Speaker 3: connected to them, and do you think that that might

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Speaker 3: have an impact on the amount of stress you're feeling.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting to say that it's had to stay

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Speaker 6: connected to my daughter in Afghanistan. We are going to

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Speaker 6: my son's for Thanksgiving. But the other problem is, which

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Speaker 6: is related to this, is I was an avid cyclist

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Speaker 6: and mountain biker, and I lost all my friends because

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Speaker 6: I don't have the cadio conditions to ride with the

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Speaker 6: club anymore, and so I spend a lot of time

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Speaker 6: along maybe with one friend, So that yeah, kind of

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Speaker 6: exacerbatess the problem. But I don't want to take up

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Speaker 6: the line too long, but I'm definitely going to get

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Speaker 6: your book. You don't take THERAPU patients, do you? I don't.

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Speaker 3: But Larry, I think what you just said was so

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Speaker 3: important about the loss of the community with your cycling friends,

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Speaker 3: and so even if you're not cycling, is there some

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Speaker 3: other reason to still be with them or is there

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Speaker 3: a different community that you find yourself wanting to be

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Speaker 3: a part of, Because we know that community is such

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Speaker 3: a huge part of our health and our well being,

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Speaker 3: and you deserve that. You deserve to have that circle

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Speaker 3: of support around you.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I will try to find something, Larry.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for the call. You almost give

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Speaker 2: me a call, Larry. You know that, Okay. I've interviewed

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Speaker 2: Larry's daughter on my show. She actually works in Kabul.

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Speaker 2: She's one of the few on the ground in Kabools.

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Speaker 2: She has a business over there, and the Taliban monitor her,

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Speaker 2: but they have not tried to, you know, bother her.

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Speaker 2: She's actually a set to the people of Afghanistan. She's

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Speaker 2: a very courageous woman. And I can understand the concern

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Speaker 2: that Larry has on both both counts. Both counts, I

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Speaker 2: have family members who were police officers as well, and

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Speaker 2: it's a it's one of those jobs that you never know.

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Speaker 2: That's the one of the few jobs in the world

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Speaker 2: that there's no guarantee you're going to come home at night.

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Speaker 2: And we need to be more respectful of police and

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Speaker 2: firefighters and e m t s who are out there

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Speaker 2: trying to truly h serve the public, as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a lot of the politicians who claim their public servants,

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Speaker 2: but they're really not public service that in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: they're more often serving themselves. Body call me anytime that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, thank you, I might do that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me go to Karen is in Attenborough. Hi, Karen,

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Speaker 2: welcome to Night Side. You are on with my guest

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Speaker 2: Amy lehark Or. Welcome Karen.

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Speaker 7: Hi Dan Hi, Amy, Hi Hi. I'm going through some

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Speaker 7: serious stress and I'm sleep deprived and I'm being harassed

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Speaker 7: by neighbors upstairs. Now. The thing is it's like a patent.

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Speaker 7: I have moved three times in four years because of this.

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Speaker 7: So I got a private investigator and he didn't really

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Speaker 7: work out, and the police said there's really not much

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Speaker 7: we can do. And I hate living like this, and

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Speaker 7: I just don't. I just don't know what else to do.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm even like, you know, they stomp around.

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Speaker 7: I'm up till three, four or five am in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Karen, you said you moved two or three times real quickly.

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Speaker 2: Is this group of people literally following you or are

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Speaker 2: you finding similar problems with whatever neighbors you have when

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Speaker 2: you move into a new location.

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Speaker 7: I never had a problem before. I don't want to

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Speaker 7: say where I lived, I lived in It's all not count.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. What I'm saying is that, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you had lived next door to someone who was

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Speaker 2: a drug for ten years and they just lived there,

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Speaker 2: and I get that, But if you've moved in two

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Speaker 2: or three locations, is it always it's not the same

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Speaker 2: people that you have had problems with.

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Speaker 7: I assume I don't even know who they are. But

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Speaker 7: I have to tell you that the the first place

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Speaker 7: that I moved in the basement apartment in the second

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Speaker 7: and the floor above me was empty. So there was

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Speaker 7: a guy that moved up there. He started kind of

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Speaker 7: harassing me. He would just go out in his car

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Speaker 7: and he was putting his headlights on and he would

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Speaker 7: he would he wouldn't even go anywhere, so I moved

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Speaker 7: my pouch against the floor. So then he was keeping

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Speaker 7: me up all night long and I tried talking to him,

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Speaker 7: so then I called the police. They were very rude

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Speaker 7: to me, and I hate to say that not all

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Speaker 7: police offices ended up. This was COVID around twenty twenty.

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Speaker 7: I ended up going to Dedham Court. I couldn't go

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Speaker 7: into court because of COVID, so they gave me a

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Speaker 7: piece of paper to fill out.

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Speaker 2: Karen, I'm hesitant to have you go through all of

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Speaker 2: this chapter verse on acause I know because the time.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to call me during the day,

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Speaker 2: I'll call you back and I'll try to give you

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Speaker 2: some guidance. Rob will give you my direct line and

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Speaker 2: I can call you. I can call you back during

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Speaker 2: the day when.

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Speaker 7: When, oh please, I need help. I've been going through

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Speaker 7: this for like six years.

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Speaker 2: Now, Okay, well there, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: And my question. I'll have some some direct questions for you.

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Speaker 2: But let's Rob will give you my direct line during

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Speaker 2: the day. Call me. It might take me a day

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Speaker 2: or two to get back to you, so be patient.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably going to say private or secure. So

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Speaker 2: if you get that, just answer the phone. It'll be

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Speaker 2: me and we can talk off here.

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Speaker 7: Okay, thank you, Dan, I appreciate that. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Ami.

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Speaker 3: Okay, can I have one quick thingy for you?

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Speaker 2: Amy?

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Speaker 3: And I'm so glad that Dan's going to reach out.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the best outcome that could have come

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Speaker 3: from this. I also wanted to just offer something around.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that you're not sleeping and just the stress

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Speaker 3: that can come from that. So if that goes on

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Speaker 3: long enough, you can actually we get into something called

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Speaker 3: sleep stress, where you start to worry about not being

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Speaker 3: able to sleep. So I don't know if that's happening,

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Speaker 3: but if that is something you can talk to your

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Speaker 3: doctor about, and even just sleeping when you can where

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Speaker 3: you can to start to get out of that sleep

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Speaker 3: stress mode, if that's where you're finding yourself.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, ok thank you, Okay, thank key, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Don't hang up, Rob will give you my number. I

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Speaker 2: got three calls. We're going to get everybody. And we

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Speaker 2: got Carl, we got bj and and Nick. Keep stay

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Speaker 2: right there. We will get you in. I promise it

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Speaker 2: might be Tayper. We'll get all three of you. In

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Speaker 2: coming back on.

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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Let me go to Carl and Groveland. Carl next on

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Speaker 2: Nice sid with Amy Lennaco.

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Speaker 6: Go right ahead, Carl, Yeah, Hi, Dan, I'm up here. Uh.

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Speaker 6: You were talking about the end of cards. And what

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Speaker 6: I do is I take my junk mail and I

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Speaker 6: cut it up and I keep thugs three small piles

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Speaker 6: around the house, and I jot down things during the days,

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Speaker 6: so the next day I have it all. There's a

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Speaker 6: lot of the things I don't have to keep thinking about.

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Speaker 2: Its good system. If it works for you, that's a

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Speaker 2: good system. Carl, you got a question for Amy?

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Speaker 6: Sorry? Say again? Please?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a question for Amy?

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Speaker 6: Gee? No, I can't tell. I mean, I'm ninety three

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Speaker 6: and I probably could have a ton of questions.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got a lot of experience, and you know

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Speaker 2: that's a great point you made, which may help out

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Speaker 2: Linda a little bit in terms of just having something

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Speaker 2: on paper, so when she gets up in the morning,

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Speaker 2: she can accomplish one or two or three maybe deeds.

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Speaker 2: And you get into that and you're doing the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You have little ps of paper and and you're saving

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Speaker 2: trees in the meantime, Carl, I like that.

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Speaker 6: Friend of Jark Nail and the scrap uh uh uh

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Speaker 6: scrap paper.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm a big scrap paper guy too. Absolutely, Carl,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for calling. Have you called before us?

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Speaker 6: This is your first time, no, first first time.

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Speaker 2: We got to give you a round of a flaws

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Speaker 2: from audience. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Hey Dan, Yes, sir, you have known my cousin Clark

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Speaker 6: Channel five clock booth. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the great, great guy, A great guy.

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Speaker 6: He passed a few years ago, but.

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Speaker 2: I know that and one of the smartest reporters. It

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Speaker 2: looked truly an intellectual. I mean so uh yeah, you

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Speaker 2: got You've got some good bloodlines there, Carl, appreciate your call.

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Speaker 2: Thank you much. My friend call again. Well we'll have

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Speaker 2: a longer conversation.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. And by the way, I know out Flowers, but

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Speaker 6: I don't know who she is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Florence is one of my loyal listeners in

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Speaker 2: Groveland as well. We're kind of a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a family here, so consider yourself part of the family. Carl.

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Speaker 2: And congratulations on reaching ninety three. If I could shoot

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Speaker 2: ninety three or nine holes of golf, I'd be happy.

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Speaker 2: So that's the magic number. Thanks Carl.

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Speaker 6: I couldn't shoot one hole at all.

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Speaker 2: Thanks talk soon, all right? Goodn't I? We have great callers.

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Speaker 2: Nick is in Winchester, Dick, I want to get you

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Speaker 2: and bj infromact and go ahead, Nick.

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Speaker 4: How you doing? Dann Hi Amy?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 8: Nick?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 4: You just gonna question. I agree with you guys about

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Speaker 4: writing it down on paper or index card. But the

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Speaker 4: thing I seem to have a problem with, say it's

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Speaker 4: three or four things, how do you prioritize?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, if you can't prioritize them, then

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Speaker 2: don't do it. Make it alphabetical, make it you know,

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Speaker 2: whatever you want. Okay, you're trying to get a couple

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Speaker 2: of things accomplished every day, so when you go to

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Speaker 2: bed at night, you got those two things off your

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Speaker 2: to do list.

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Speaker 4: There you go. What do you think you're a better doctor?

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Speaker 3: I feel like Dan is in my head because Nick

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say the same thing that often when

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Speaker 3: we try to prioritize too much, it can actually cause

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Speaker 3: us more stress. So if one isn't naturally rising to

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Speaker 3: the top, then I don't think you have to force it.

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Speaker 3: I think just making progress on all of them is

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Speaker 3: exactly the right thing to do.

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Speaker 2: That would be called analysis paralysis, Nick, So you don't

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Speaker 2: want to get into analysis paralysis, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, definitely not all right, thank you for taking my call.

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Speaker 6: A great night, great.

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Speaker 2: Question, Nick, Thank you much. Let me go to BJ

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Speaker 2: in Act in Massachusetts. BJ next on Night Side with

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Speaker 2: Amy Leanneker.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Dan, Amy, I deal with autism, anxiety disorder, and depression.

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Speaker 8: Like to give a shout out to all those warriors

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Speaker 8: to deal with those domination or singularly. I know that

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Speaker 8: stress is commonplace for me and anxiety, and I know

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Speaker 8: that personally medicines don't seem to work, and I don't

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Speaker 8: it doesn't seem to work to use the usual anxiety

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Speaker 8: relieving techniques. I'm wondering if you had any suggestions.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so, and I think you did mention that you

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Speaker 3: are you're seeking or you have medical support, which is

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Speaker 3: always the most important thing because well, Dan and I

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Speaker 3: might sound smart, we're not actually doctors, right Dana, the

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Speaker 3: mode radio go ahead, right? But BJ, you mentioned both

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Speaker 3: stress and anxieting, and I'm I'm glad that you did,

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Speaker 3: because there's often a misconception that those two things are

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Speaker 3: the same and they're actually different, and so when you

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Speaker 3: can get clear on which one it is, you've got

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Speaker 3: a better chance at getting some relief. So stress is

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Speaker 3: something you feel as result of an external pressure. So

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Speaker 3: something's happening, there's a deadline or demand. Where anxiety actually

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Speaker 3: comes from internal it's a worry or a fear that

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Speaker 3: may not even have a clear cause. And anxiety can

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Speaker 3: be there even when life is calm. So my first

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Speaker 3: piece of advice would be to think about and to

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Speaker 3: get clear which of those two are you experiencing, so

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Speaker 3: then you have a better chance at doing something about it.

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Speaker 2: Good, good advice, BJ. We're running out of time. I

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Speaker 2: know your regular caller. Call anytime. We can always talk

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Speaker 2: about what's going on.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, thanks Dan, Thanks BJ.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you soon. The book is Cheers to Monday,

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Speaker 2: The Surprisingly Simple Method to Lead and Live with Less

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Speaker 2: Stress and More Joy by Amy Lehiker. Amy, I hope

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Speaker 2: a lot of people get the book. I said earlier

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Speaker 2: this evening that I was going to tell you a story.

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Speaker 2: I had a big problem of a couple of years

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Speaker 2: ago with my health savings account, which you get through work,

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Speaker 2: and the company was very difficult to deal with, and

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Speaker 2: it was really causing me stress. And I talked to

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Speaker 2: my doctor about it, and the doctor said to me,

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Speaker 2: who's your company? So I gave him the name of

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Speaker 2: the company. It's you know, it's through my own employer.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the name of the year.

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Speaker 2: He said to me. I had that company. My practice

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Speaker 2: has that company too. They are horrible to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Get rid of them. Get rid of them. Guess what,

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Speaker 2: it was the smartest thing I ever did. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: cost me a little bit of money because you can

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Speaker 2: put three thousand dollars away from medical expenses, maybe save

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Speaker 2: a thousand bucks. But I thought to myself, it's not

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Speaker 2: worth my health. I got rid of it. It cost

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Speaker 2: me a thousand bucks a year. But you know what,

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Speaker 2: I don't miss it. I don't miss it. Amy. I

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Speaker 2: got a run because I'm flat out of time. We'll

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Speaker 2: have you back. Okay, let's keep it going. Thanks Amy,

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Speaker 2: talk to you soon. This will be posted tomorrow about

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Speaker 2: two o'clock this morning on our website, which is a

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Speaker 2: nightside on demand, and you're more than happy to pull

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Speaker 2: it down and put it up on your website. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Jan all right, thanks so much. Done for the night.

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Speaker 2: I'll have a surprise guest tomorrow night at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll be really surprised. Tell your friends to

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Speaker 2: tune in at nine tomorrow night. All dogs, all cats,

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Speaker 2: all pets go to heaven. That's my pale Charlie ray Is,

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Speaker 2: who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's all your

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Speaker 2: pets are passed. They loved you when you loved them.

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Speaker 2: I do believe you're going to see them again. I

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Speaker 2: will see you in about two minutes on night Side

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Speaker 2: with Dan Ray on Facebook. Join us there. Thanks Rob,

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Speaker 2: great job. Thanks Marita,