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Speaker 1: always great to see you, brother.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure to be with you. And I will say, Brian,

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Speaker 1: It's really been beneficial for my health generally speaking. And

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Speaker 1: And it's something that they have had in their back

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Speaker 1: is finally seeing a potential end the Iranians, which will

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Speaker 2: Right, And it's so huge. And look that control and

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Speaker 2: all those things. That has been their nuclear weapon for

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Speaker 2: and that was for the effort of killing. So it's

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Speaker 2: this has been going on. You know what, are we

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Speaker 2: But you mentioned the firing on the other people in

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's unbelievable. Well, fortunately we have good intel on

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Speaker 1: No. Well, you know it's like having a friendship with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to deal with a lot of these

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Speaker 1: On point trading partners all. Yes, well, it sounds me

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Speaker 2: You just took the words out of my mouth, because

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Speaker 2: if you look at the Abraham Accords, you know that again,

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Speaker 1: Hey, rebuild Gaza, you know, I mean, it's the next

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you are not going to wipe out

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Speaker 2: And you know, when I was in Iraq, I found

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Speaker 1: We think that somehow I've changed gears on the legality component.

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Speaker 1: And it looked like I'm going back to this un resolution.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Brian, if this action had taken place

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Speaker 1: Well, the new one says he's going to use the

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Speaker 1: Brad Weinster. I. He's in studio and happens to be

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Speaker 1: to Brad, and he's going to provide some wonderful Insight'll

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Speaker 1: let us pivot over briefly if we may. And it's

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Speaker 1: of things that bring by you, and you said, just

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Speaker 1: within the Somali community. No, it's not racist to me

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Speaker 1: to say that these are criminals within any broader set

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would think that there was a component

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Speaker 1: Share records to help us get to the root of

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Speaker 2: Well, certain components of the government are and will tell you.

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Speaker 1: But see, artificial intelligence can find all of that. We

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Speaker 1: Amen to that, we'll continue with former Congressman Brad Weinstrup

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Speaker 1: Well, it's an evil form of wealth redistribution. We pay

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to me, that's a problem because what it

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that we see this administration trying to

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Speaker 1: Catholic friends, they mentioned Gato having a congress a former

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Speaker 1: congres and Brad weinsterorborin studio for a full hour here

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Speaker 1: really enjoying our conversation. And of course that trigger to

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Speaker 1: comment from you. When I mentioned Kate Heaven Cemetery.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mentioned that my wife and I have our

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Speaker 2: plots out there already and they have a beautiful section

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Speaker 2: for veterans, and that's that's what spurred us on. I

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Speaker 2: gave a talk out there on Vietnam veterans, and it

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Speaker 2: was held there at this beautiful site with all the

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Speaker 2: military reverence present, and I was like, well, since my

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Speaker 2: parents and grandparents and everybody else have their plots out here,

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Speaker 2: why don't we go ahead and get that taken care

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Speaker 2: of now.

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Speaker 1: I just wrote it's for Gate of Heaven, of course,

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Speaker 1: since I speak on their behalf, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: do it. I just wrote down they have an area

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Speaker 1: dedicated for veterans on my notes, so I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be sure and bring that up every time I mentioned

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Speaker 1: them in a spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really it's really a beautiful spot. So I

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Speaker 2: was please pleased to do that. But you know, you

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Speaker 2: mentioned prayer during that commercial.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Catholic and prayer, we had a pope make

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Speaker 1: a request in connect with the war, yeah, that it

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Speaker 1: should engage in dialogue.

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Speaker 2: I knew American pope you know, said, you know, it

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Speaker 2: should be done through dialogue. That is the way. Well,

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Speaker 2: that is a way, and that is certainly a way

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Speaker 2: that has been tried, and we've been at this for

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Speaker 2: forty some years. So maybe the dialogue needs to be

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Speaker 2: more with God, because I can tell you that's one

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Speaker 2: of the things that my family is doing is we

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Speaker 2: are praying for our troops, we are praying for our country,

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Speaker 2: and we're really praying for the world that we can

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Speaker 2: eliminate this evil that has been here for so long.

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Speaker 1: This goes back so deadly Bishop that you mentioned earlier

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Speaker 1: in the Prare book from the nineteen fifties. You want

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Speaker 1: to be the world a better place as a consequence

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Speaker 1: of the war.

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Speaker 2: That's the idea of war. And you know we we

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Speaker 2: were then talking offline about how we were able to

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Speaker 2: take out the leadership over in Iran so easily. Well,

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Speaker 2: we were using dialogue. We were using dialogue with them,

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Speaker 2: which was going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Right, And don't forget we also used bribes. Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: shipped them over billions of dollars in cash. Cash.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've been doing this too long. You took

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Speaker 2: the words out of my mouth again, you know, No,

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Speaker 2: that's fine.

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Speaker 1: The pallet I mean, if not a wire transfer, not

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Speaker 1: going to a bank, which had been simple, they delivered

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Speaker 1: palettes of cash.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and that was their form of dialogue also with cash,

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Speaker 2: and I really think that over time, especially in that situation,

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Speaker 2: I think this was a president that was hoping that

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Speaker 2: any type of problem, them getting nuclear whatever. They were

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Speaker 2: even saying, we're just trying, We're just putting it off

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Speaker 2: for a while. What are you putting it off until

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Speaker 2: your term is done to make somebody else's problem? And

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Speaker 2: today I think that this the Trump administration. Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: is saying, I don't want this to be the next

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Speaker 2: president's problem. This is now going to be something that

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Speaker 2: we we want to we want to settle. But you know,

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Speaker 2: we took out, we took out their leadership with the

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Speaker 2: dialogue we were trying. We we've feigned that we were continuing.

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Speaker 1: Dialogue, didn't stop the nuclear development that they were still

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Speaker 1: engaging in in spite of the prior agreement we had

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Speaker 1: reached for them. Right, And because Maureen's listening, I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: maybe he was actually wanted the caliphate to be formed. Brock,

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Speaker 1: going back to your comment about black Obama as opposed

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Speaker 1: to just, you know, let him get through his first term.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Marine, I said it out loud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And certainly that may be on it.

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Speaker 1: It could have been on his mind.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of people on, yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: gone and we're moving on. But we took out all

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Speaker 2: those leaders and one day because they thought we were

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Speaker 2: still having dialogue, and which was unbelievable that they, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going to get together at the same place at

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Speaker 2: the same time. This is a concern I always had

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Speaker 2: with things like the State of the Union address for us,

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Speaker 2: for you know, everyone knows when this is taking place,

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Speaker 2: and we have virtually our entire government there in this

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Speaker 2: situation that that's that seems to me to be dangerous.

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Speaker 2: And how do we have continuity of government? You know

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Speaker 2: in the Senate. In the Senate, if a senator dies

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Speaker 2: or is killed, right, they can be replaced by the

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Speaker 2: governor immediately immediately. Not so in the House. You wait

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Speaker 2: for the next election.

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Speaker 1: So there's the gunfire that you experienced when they in

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Speaker 1: that Paris unleashed fire on all of the Republican members

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Speaker 1: of Congress. If they had all been eradicated, the Democrats

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Speaker 1: would have hit full control until special elections had been

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Speaker 1: held and we elected replacements for the slaughtered members of

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party. That's the creepy, crazy thing.

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Speaker 2: I pointed out to the Democrats more than once that

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Speaker 2: was an insurrection, amen, and you didn't want to call

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Speaker 2: that an insurrection.

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Speaker 1: I had a list of targets planned ahead of time.

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Speaker 1: So what this bill does. And it was a Democrat

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Speaker 1: from Washington. It came to me and said we should

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Speaker 1: do something about this.

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned the baseball field, so did he. He said,

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Speaker 2: you lived through a potential problem like this. So the

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Speaker 2: idea on our bill is, and it's still hanging out there,

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Speaker 2: is that if you get elected to Congress, you set

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Speaker 2: aside five names of people to replace you, and if

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Speaker 2: you are killed or die while you're in office, then

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Speaker 2: the governor can pick one of those people to take

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Speaker 2: your place, keeping the continuity of government in place. Plus, also,

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Speaker 2: if you're in the majority, you still maintain the majority.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you get to hold that seat. You

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Speaker 2: only hold it until there is a special election. And

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Speaker 2: you can run for that seat, sure, but you hold

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Speaker 2: it until there is a special election. And you know,

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Speaker 2: this was a bipartisan idea, and I think it's a

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Speaker 2: good one, and I still think that the House needs

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Speaker 2: to act on it because that is a threat and

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Speaker 2: it is and we drop the bill on the day

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Speaker 2: of the State of the Union intentionally why we still

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Speaker 2: in Congress.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would get around that one all day long,

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Speaker 1: because you know, it's not difficult to envision the cold,

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Speaker 1: harsh reality that, yeah, a bomb could be dropped on

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Speaker 1: any one of the meetings where they are gathering together,

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Speaker 1: and that would knock us back on our heels for

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Speaker 1: god knows how long. Simple solution too, and it's an

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Speaker 1: outstanding idea, bipartisanship. One more with former Congressman Brad Winster. First,

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Speaker 1: a word for color happy Friday. One more here with

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Speaker 1: season Citizen Former Congressman Brad Winster. Get in your resume

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Speaker 1: all day long, but we use up the rest of

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Speaker 1: the time, and where we're going to pivot over to

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Speaker 1: in our remaining moments of time.

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Speaker 2: Congressman, Well, you know, I'm feeling pretty patriotic this morning.

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Speaker 2: You know, as a member of the military, form a

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Speaker 2: member retired, still engaged in a lot of ways through

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Speaker 2: my role on the Advisory Board Intelligence Advisory Board. I

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Speaker 2: just I'm so proud of our military and the things

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Speaker 2: that they've been carrying out in this last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, say what you want about it.

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Speaker 1: The predicate for whatever that even as well and raid was.

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Speaker 2: Amazing totally amazing, right and zip in, zip out like

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Speaker 2: going to Wisconsin exactly. Actually it might have been tougher

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: That will be a reference to strike for those out

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Speaker 1: they're too young to remember having seen the movie.

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Speaker 2: Love the movie. I always say it from that movie

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Speaker 2: because my father's German and Irish, my mom's all Italian.

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Speaker 2: Line from Stripes we get kicked out of every decent

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Speaker 2: country in the world anyway, you know, I just I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling pretty patriotic about the work that's being done, and

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Speaker 2: we really need to keep our troops in mind. And

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Speaker 2: I don't care what side of the aisle you're on.

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Speaker 2: If you can't do that, then you have a problem

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Speaker 2: because they're doing what they've been asked to do and

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Speaker 2: they're doing it really with such precision. And war is difficult,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I want to play respects to those

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Speaker 2: that have lost their life, not only in our military,

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Speaker 2: but now as you're seeing a Ran just launching missiles

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Speaker 2: at other countries, you know people around the world that

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Speaker 2: are innocently being killed, people that had nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with this skirmish except quietly cheering us on to try

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Speaker 2: and change this evil that's a existed but when I

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Speaker 2: think about our military, Brian, there's a line that I've

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Speaker 2: used in many talks and something that I wrote when

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Speaker 2: I've got a tribute to the flag. One time I said,

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Speaker 2: you know, evildoers fear her and those in need pray

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Speaker 2: for her arrival. And I really think that that's something

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Speaker 2: that we are doing right now. We're addressing the evil

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Speaker 2: doers in the world, and those in need have prayed

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Speaker 2: for this arrival for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: And let us remind as we started out talking about it,

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Speaker 1: the UN resolution passed overwhelming one hundred percent no votes.

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Speaker 1: A couple of extempsons from the obvious China and Russia

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Speaker 1: who could have vetoted it. That's the world telling Iran,

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Speaker 1: I think it's over when you, I mean, can you.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go too far my assessment of

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Speaker 1: that resolution, but they all correctively condemned Iran no reference

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Speaker 1: to Israel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, this should really bring focus to

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Speaker 2: the American people and people around the world about what

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Speaker 2: can be good in the world and what is evil

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Speaker 2: in the world. And we have our fights within. Let's

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Speaker 2: keep them to policy, okay, Let's not keep them to

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Speaker 2: the values that America should stand for. And you know,

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Speaker 2: and everything I say in speeches a lot, especially when

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about service, and sometimes I combine faith with service. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I say, you know, even if you have no faith,

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Speaker 2: none of us are getting out of here alive. Why

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Speaker 2: don't you do some good things while you're here?

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Speaker 1: Life is heaven if you choose to make it so

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Speaker 1: right or it could be helped. It's your of your

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Speaker 1: own doing. That's my Dostoevsky quote. I always default to.

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Speaker 1: You may not know what's coming after. Why not take

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Speaker 1: the time to be a decent, beautiful, wonderful, happy human

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Speaker 1: being making your life heavenly while you are living it.

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Speaker 2: It's so much easier to go that way. I know

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Speaker 2: before I went to a rack of precid to me,

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Speaker 2: just go with God, and I'll tell you that removed

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Speaker 2: a lot of my anxiety. I carried that into Congress too.

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Speaker 2: I have to tell you, it's like I gotta let

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Speaker 2: some things just bounce off my shoulder and drive forward

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Speaker 2: and keep trying to do the right thing.

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Speaker 1: No atheist in a foxhole, that's right. Maybe some agnostics,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't given up completely on the concept of

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Speaker 1: God's Congressman former Congressman Windsor, Thank you for your service

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Speaker 1: for our country, and your continued service and your willingness

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Speaker 1: to come in here and talk about these critically important

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Speaker 1: issues that you still have so much knowledge about. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your insights and your thoughts, and I appreciate your friendship. Brother.

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Speaker 1: Wish you all the best in your life and best

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Speaker 1: of health and love to you and your family. Man

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Speaker 1: you too, Brian be Well, Thank you very much. Coming

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Speaker 1: up next, the Return. It's been a while. Robert Sprague.

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Speaker 1: He's running for Secretary of State. He's going to come

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Speaker 1: on the morning show. Coming up next Cutter for a

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Speaker 1: long segment, followed by Jack Windsor, editor in chief of

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Speaker 1: the how Press Network, who will be talking about at

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