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Speaker 4: That is the website. It was in theaters last week,

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Speaker 3: Denish Desuza our guest.

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Speaker 4: His film The Dragon's Prophecy now available online for streaming,

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Speaker 4: and it covers the events and the aftermath of October seventh,

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Speaker 4: The Dragon's prophecyfilm dot com. That's the website where you

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Speaker 4: The Dragon's Prophecy the name of the film, and you

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Speaker 4: can find it online at the dragonsprophecyfilm dot com. Final question, Nash,

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Speaker 3: What brought you to America.

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Speaker 4: You served in the Reagan administration, You've been a lifelong

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Speaker 4: History, especially with the accomplishments over this last week or

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Speaker 4: few presidents could have done, and in fact none have

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Speaker 4: Always a fascinating conversation. Danesh Jsuza, thank you so much

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Speaker 4: for your time and for all you do.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: An update on the Christian amanpur bite that went over

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Speaker 7: You wake up and you're reminded how bad the Colorado

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, even if you don't see the film

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Speaker 8: Palestinian families. Even a Al Jazeera reporter was holding a hostage,

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Speaker 8: So you shouldn't trust anything that they report over there

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Speaker 8: from that side, especially when a raporter was holding someone hostage.

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Speaker 3: They don't even know where they are anymore. No, and

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised at dragons exactly right on.

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Speaker 4: That, Christian, I'm on, poor, let's do it before and

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Speaker 4: after here they can't help themselves. I don't know where

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Speaker 4: this sympathy for terrorists lunatics comes from, but she's got it. Well, baby,

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Speaker 4: she's got it. Christian Amen por CNN from yesterday, and I.

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Speaker 6: Think for sure people who start to talk to the

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Speaker 6: hostages who've only just been released will find that it

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Speaker 6: will take a long long time for them to recover physically,

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Speaker 6: but also mentally. It's been a terrible, terrible two years

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Speaker 6: for them because not only are they there, you know,

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Speaker 6: they're probably been treated better than the average Garsen because

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Speaker 6: they are the pawns and the chips that Hamas had.

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Speaker 6: Now Hamas has given up all its leverage, by the way,

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Speaker 6: by giving them all up, So that is a victory

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Speaker 6: for the Israeli side.

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Speaker 4: If those hostages were treated better than the average Gasen

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Speaker 4: by Hamas, I would hate to see how the average

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Speaker 4: Gasen is treated. And of course this came completely firing

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Speaker 4: back on Amanpour and she took time yesterday to issue

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Speaker 4: this half hearted, if that apology of sorts.

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Speaker 6: Now earlier live on air, I spoke about what a

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Speaker 6: day of real joy this is for Israeli families whose

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Speaker 6: loved ones are finally being returned from two years of

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Speaker 6: horrific Hamas captivity, and for civilians in Gaza who finally

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Speaker 6: had reprieved from two years of brutal and deadly war.

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Speaker 6: I noted that for the hostages who are finally home,

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Speaker 6: it'll take a long time for them to recover mentally

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Speaker 6: and physically. But I regret also saying that they might

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Speaker 6: have been treated better than many Gazans, because Hamas used

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Speaker 6: these hostages as pawns and bargaining chips. But that was

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Speaker 6: insensitive and it was wrong. From speaking to many former

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Speaker 6: hostages and their families, Like everyone, I've been horrified at

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Speaker 6: what Hamas has subjected them to over two long years.

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Speaker 3: They've told me.

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Speaker 6: As You've just heard their stories of barely being able

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Speaker 6: to breathe in the tunnels, not being allowed to cry,

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Speaker 6: being starved and made to dig their own graves. And

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Speaker 6: of course today some of the hostages are coming back

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Speaker 6: in body bags, and.

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Speaker 4: All of the women Christiahan, this supposed champion of women worldwide,

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Speaker 4: You kidding me? These women were brutally raped, tortured, and

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Speaker 4: eventually killed. Why so they couldn't live to tell the

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Speaker 4: tale of the horrors that they endured. That her mind

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Speaker 4: would even go there in the first place. There's a

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Speaker 4: process here. You have a thought, and you don't necessarily

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Speaker 4: give voice to that thought.

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Speaker 3: But let's say you have a thought and it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: It makes its way from your brain to your mouth

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Speaker 4: and out onto live television. That's what happened with Christian Amanpur.

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Speaker 4: Are you buying the apology. I'm not so sure that

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Speaker 4: i am. But this comes from two years of a media,

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Speaker 4: including Christian Amanpour, that has been carrying water equivocating on

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Speaker 4: behalf of Hamas, trying to draw some kind of counterbalance

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Speaker 4: of well, they did do the invasion and killed twelve

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Speaker 4: hundred innes in Israelis, but Israel's an oppressive regime.

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Speaker 3: And they're killing a bunch of powers.

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Speaker 4: Estindian civilians wantonly willie nilly, which is false, which is false,

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Speaker 4: And it's that credence that you've given to Hamas at all.

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Speaker 3: They're a terrorist organization.

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Speaker 4: They must be wiped off the map, they must be eliminated, destroyed,

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Speaker 4: they must be removed from power. There are no alternatives

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Speaker 4: in which Hamas is left empowering Gaza and we just

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Speaker 4: go about our merry way.

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Speaker 3: No, but the media hasn't covered it that way. And

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Speaker 3: that is the fruit of the poisonous tree right there.

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Speaker 4: And it led to that whatever you want to call it, apology,

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Speaker 4: a time out back wrapping up our number two. The

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Speaker 4: situation with Michael Brown continues without Michael Brown, Ryan Schuling

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Speaker 4: filling in after this.

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Speaker 9: Stay away from the political aspects and just say bring

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Speaker 9: the hostages home. It seems like a very humanistic angle,

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Speaker 9: something you can say without getting into the muck. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: and Hollywood just won't do it. Why can't they take

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Speaker 9: that very basic step.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I would accept bring the hostages home and free palisidec

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Speaker 10: accept free pile.

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Speaker 3: Sign and bring the hostages home.

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Speaker 10: You know, We've had two Oscars, two Grammy's, two Emmys

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Speaker 10: in the two years, and not one of the not

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Speaker 10: one person said it. And I don't understand it. I've

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Speaker 10: stopped trying to understand it or figure it out. I

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Speaker 10: don't try to debate, articulate, or convince specifically the people

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Speaker 10: in the show business community.

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Speaker 3: These are my peers.

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Speaker 4: Michael Rappaport joining us live in studio last week. That

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Speaker 4: was Christian Toto, my good friend. Who you heard Hollywoodantoto

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Speaker 4: dot com about why celebrities won't just come out and

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Speaker 4: say that the basic decent thing. I mean, obviously bring

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Speaker 4: the hostages home. There's a darkness, and it's not just

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Speaker 4: Hollywood it's the mainstream media, but it's many that appear

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Speaker 4: on television. It's many that appear in movies. The Mark

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Speaker 4: Ruffaloes of the world. That guy, I mean, he's among

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Speaker 4: the worst. And Rapaport he names names in this conversation

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Speaker 4: as well, and he's paid a price professionally. He had

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Speaker 4: shows canceled in Royal Oak, Michigan. Of course, most of

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Speaker 4: you know about dearborn By now that it has the

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Speaker 4: highest population of Muslim individuals in the United States per capita.

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Speaker 3: I've been there many times. There's a burger joint called

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Speaker 3: Miller's there.

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Speaker 4: Any of you that have been to Michigan or are

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Speaker 4: from there might know what I'm talking about. It's a

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Speaker 4: lovely community. It's where Henry Ford had his original assembly

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Speaker 4: line for Ford Motor Company in the early twentieth century.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of history there.

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Speaker 4: And Rappaport had a show canceled there, had one canceled

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Speaker 4: in Alabama, of all places, and he told me there's

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Speaker 4: because there were these kind of you know, the libs

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Speaker 4: really love doing this swatting stuff now where they'll call

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Speaker 4: the police and say, hey, there's been a domestic dispute

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Speaker 4: at such and such address, and he's got a gun,

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Speaker 4: he's threatening us. It's fake, totally fake, but they call

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Speaker 4: it in and now a swat team storms the house

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Speaker 4: on the impression that somebody is there with a gun.

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Speaker 4: On a lower level, that was happening, he said at

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Speaker 4: the show in Alabama where there were protesters threatening to

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Speaker 4: come up and protest outside the comedy club, and the

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Speaker 4: owners are like, we just don't want to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: And they never showed. It was a bluff. It was

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Speaker 3: a bulk.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm seeing now of late, people like Michael

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Speaker 4: Rappaport and I even saw Cheryl Hines last night on

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Speaker 4: with Jesse Waters. You might remember her from Curby Your

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Speaker 4: Enthusiasm with Larry David and she is married to RFK Junior.

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Speaker 4: And the heat that she has taken for supporting her

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Speaker 4: husband and the vitriol that he has taken from members

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Speaker 4: of his own family, that is opened her eyes.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say.

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Speaker 4: That Cheryl Hines has been redpilled, but her eyes have

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Speaker 4: been open to what the left is capable of, and

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Speaker 4: that darkness and that evil, the anger that is rooted

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Speaker 4: in the left. Now you are pushing people who once

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Speaker 4: agreed with you like Cheryl Hinese appaport. The list is long,

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Speaker 4: even Bill Maher of Late You have watched, and it's

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Speaker 4: not that Bill Maher is a conservative or ever would be.

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Speaker 4: But when we come back, I'll have my conversation with

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Speaker 4: President Trump wink, and you'll hear in exchange that Bill

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Speaker 4: Maher had with William H.

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Speaker 3: Macy. And I don't think Macy's any.

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Speaker 4: Conservative, But there is a shift that's happening in Hollywood

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Speaker 4: where they're looking at Donald Trump and they're seeing him

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Speaker 4: more as the person that he is rather than the caricature.

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Speaker 4: The left tried to create more on the situation without

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Speaker 4: Michael Brown after this