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Speaker 2: it's the Steelers hosting the Texans seven point thirty kick

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. The Steelers have won twenty

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Speaker 2: three straight Monday night football games at home. How annoying

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Speaker 2: is that they have not won, however, a playoff game

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Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen, dropping six consecutive. The Browns interviewed former

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Speaker 2: He was the Brown's wide receivers coach in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: College football, Chad Brendel of Bearcat Journal reports UC is

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Speaker 2: expected to hire Nate Woody as its defensive coordinator. What

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Speaker 2: He held the same role at Army and has led

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Speaker 2: He runs a pressure heavy three to four scheme. He

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Speaker 2: eight from twenty thirteen through twenty seventeen. College basketball, Despite

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock on fifty five. Care Cee FC Cincinnati have

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Speaker 2: by Kelsey Chevallet. Seven hundred WLW remaining unbeaten college basketball

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Speaker 2: teams in the country. They are seventeen and oh after

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Speaker 2: Friday night's win at Toledo. Next up Central Michigan tomorrow

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Speaker 2: in head coach Travis Steele. How are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Lance, Thanks for having me on great.

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Speaker 2: Catching up with you, Travis. I think more and more

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Speaker 2: seventeen and oh are you? I guess to what extent

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Speaker 4: And oh not really? You know, I knew when we

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Speaker 4: We have guys that are very, very process oriented. They

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Speaker 2: Friday night, you shot better than fifty percent from the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a fun way to play right now.

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Speaker 4: Our guys pass up good shots to get great shots,

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Speaker 4: so we're hard to prepare for. You know, we've got

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Speaker 2: A couple of games ago you shoot thirty you're the

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Speaker 2: Travis, with all the public attention that continues to grow

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you know player I said this before

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Evan ipsorrow you lost him, your point guard,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Evan is I love him, you know. Number one,

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Speaker 4: And he's having a breakout year. I thought he was

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Speaker 4: just work a little different. You know. We rebound the

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Speaker 2: I follow Pete Suitter closely. He's a Carmel High school

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Speaker 2: last year he led you guys in scoring. He had

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Speaker 2: But here's what jumps out to me, Travis. His field

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Speaker 4: Ultimate winner. It's Pete, you know, coming from a Carmel program.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't care about scoring, he doesn't care about shots.

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Speaker 4: He is playing to win. And when your best player

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the scouting report, and earlier you mentioned, and

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to prepare a scouting report for against

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes this hard reguard, you know, just our space,

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Speaker 4: lot of set plays like at Toledo, Lancia laughed. I

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Speaker 4: only called set plays on baseline out of bounds, sideline

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Speaker 4: It makes it super, super difficult to scout because again

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Speaker 4: we have to play teams three times sometimes in a

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Speaker 2: Travis, from that standpoint of play calling and backing off

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Speaker 4: I've evolved into it. You know. I used to want

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Speaker 4: But again we've recruited very, very high to skilled guys

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Speaker 2: You know. I'm I'm so glad you've said that, because

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, Central Michigan at Mallett Place should be jumping.

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy and man we're twenty four hours

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Travis. There you go. Travis steel Head, coach seventeen

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Speaker 2: They're a good shooting team. They're the best shooting team

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Speaker 2: Let's get a check on news. RNL Carrier Sports Talk

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Speaker 2: presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW six thirty seven

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lance McAllester. Thanks for hanging out. Let's talk some soccer.

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Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati players report the camp this week. On hand

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Speaker 2: cool story Full circle story thirty three year old defender

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Speaker 2: Kyle Smith was the two thousand and nine gc EL

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Speaker 2: pleasure to welcome in, Kyle Smith. Kyle Lance McAllister, how

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Speaker 7: I'm doing well? How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm fantastic. Welcome home. I mean, how exciting it must

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very exciting. Honestly, I can't wait to get

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Speaker 2: Kyle, Do I understand this correctly? Your parents have to

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Speaker 2: be excited. They've been season ticket holders of FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 7: They've been seasoned ticket holders. I think since the MLS,

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Speaker 2: let listeners know about some of this background. After you

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Speaker 2: I was reading an excellent story that Carter Chapley wrote

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Speaker 2: back in the inaugural season of FC Cincinnati in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I was an open try out again, so you know,

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Speaker 2: and new is remember the Orange and Blue FC Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: So how take me through this offseason? How did how

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Speaker 2: Take me back to two thousand and nine, a while ago.

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Speaker 2: To, you know, as the hometown kid and coming back,

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Speaker 2: know you've got a busy week ahead. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: making time tonight. Congratulations. I'm really happy for you, and I

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Speaker 2: hope we can talk again during the season.

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Speaker 7: All right, thank you?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Take care, Kyle, all right, take care. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Smith, thirty three years old defender FC Cincinnati from

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Speaker 2: LaSalle to an open tryout, to getting an opportunity with

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Speaker 2: Louisville City FC in the USL and try I mean,

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Speaker 2: think of it. You're trying out for FC Cincinnati back

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Speaker 2: in the inaugural season as well, and then seven seasons

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Speaker 2: in MLS, and now the next chapter becomes a chance

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Speaker 2: to come home. That is really cool. Let's take a

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Speaker 2: time out come back. There is a big time high

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Speaker 2: school hoops one week from tonight. Details on that and

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Speaker 2: so much more as we continue. You are hanging out

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Speaker 2: on a Monday night with me. I'm alliance Bacallister, your host,

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Speaker 2: Russ Jackson, your producer, and we were all till nine

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Speaker 2: tonight with RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet

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Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW Big Time Hoops Circle Your calendar prepare

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Speaker 2: one week from tonight the Kemba Credit Union m L Classic.

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Speaker 2: It's at Zaber University's Centai Center. The event features eight

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Speaker 2: boys varsity teams from Greater Cincinnati northern Kentucky, some of

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Speaker 2: the region's best high school talent, four exciting matchups and

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Speaker 2: from more on that. Let's go back to our guy,

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Speaker 2: that would be Rich Newman. Rich, how are you.

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Speaker 8: Doing great?

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Speaker 4: Lance?

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on again and Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year to you, and Man, what a field

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Speaker 2: you have put together. Give us the lowdown and the

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Speaker 2: setup on these four matchups.

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Speaker 8: Well, you hit the nail on the head. We're thrilled

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Speaker 8: with this matchup. It's heavy heavy GNC with a little

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Speaker 8: GCL sprinkled in. We start with Lakota West versus the

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Speaker 8: Big Blue of Hamilton at twelve noon and Lakota West,

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Speaker 8: for those who don't follow high school of basketball closely,

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Speaker 8: is the undefeated number one ranked team in the state

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Speaker 8: of Ohio. So that's a big time matchup. We come

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Speaker 8: in next with Ryle versus Oldham County, good basketball program

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Speaker 8: from outside of Louisville. Then Lakota East versus Middletown, and

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Speaker 8: the nightcap is the Saint Xavier Bombers versus from also

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Speaker 8: across the river, the Colonels from the high school in

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Speaker 8: Park Hills.

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Speaker 2: Love it. Four fantastic matchups. And you know, I notice

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Speaker 2: you're doing what you did during the Holiday Classic as well,

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Speaker 2: and I love this. Explain the ticket and set up

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Speaker 2: for the schools that you're including in this.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we decided that we'd like to give back in

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Speaker 8: another way to the community besides giving these schools the

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Speaker 8: opportunity to play at the Centas Center, but the school

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Speaker 8: that sells the most tickets online in advance prior to

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Speaker 8: the day of the event will get a five hundred

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Speaker 8: dollars donation to their booster club or the charity of

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Speaker 8: their choice. And we're also doing a promotion with Xavier

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Speaker 8: Sonny Xavier season ticket holder who buys a ticket to

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Speaker 8: the Kemba MLK Classic will donate fifty percent of those

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Speaker 8: ticket sales to the All for One Fund.

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Speaker 2: Rich I always like to mention this because I hope

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Speaker 2: fans understand how cool it must be for these high

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Speaker 2: school players to come running out of the tunnel and

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Speaker 2: onto the floor of a big East home arena. And

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Speaker 2: some of these kids are probably going to be playing

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Speaker 2: their last year of organized basketball, and what a moment,

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Speaker 2: what a memory in a tournament like this.

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Speaker 8: We've gotten so many positive comments and feedback and thanks

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Speaker 8: from all the different teams that are participating participated about

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Speaker 8: the Holiday Harble Classic as well as now we hope

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Speaker 8: the MLK Classic. Lance, You're right, it's a unique experience.

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Speaker 8: It's a once in a lifetime experience for most of

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Speaker 8: these most of these players for sure. And it goes

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Speaker 8: beyond that. It's not just for the teams and the coaches,

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Speaker 8: but the fans, the parents, the grandparents, the the cheerleading squad,

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Speaker 8: the dance teams, the pep bands. Everybody gets to experience

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Speaker 8: what we know is one of the top do you

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Speaker 8: want arenas in the country.

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Speaker 2: It's one week from tonight the Kemba Credit Union MLK

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Speaker 2: Classic at Centas Center. Rich tell everybody about how they

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Speaker 2: get their hands on tickets, well.

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Speaker 8: Please go to our website Mlkdashclassic dot com. Daily passes

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Speaker 8: are thirteen dollars in advance, sixteen dollars at the box

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Speaker 8: office the day of the event, and all fees and

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Speaker 8: parking are included. Atlanta. I've got to mention, of course,

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Speaker 8: these things don't happen just because Cintas Center and Xavier

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Speaker 8: University and New Associates wants to promote them. We need

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Speaker 8: the sponsors and we need the media partners. And Dan

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Speaker 8: Sutton a shout out to the president and CEO of

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Speaker 8: KEMBA all in on community events like this, And of

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Speaker 8: course our relationship is iHeart and specifically ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 8: is as our media partner with Fox nineteen. But I

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Speaker 8: can't tell you how much we appreciate everything that you do.

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Speaker 8: And I'll be on with MO and I'll be on

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Speaker 8: with Tony this week and that means an awful lot

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Speaker 8: to us, it really does. You all deserve a lot

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Speaker 8: of credit for giving us the microphone so to speak

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Speaker 8: to promoted great event like this.

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Speaker 2: Well, we are honored and we are proud to be

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Speaker 2: involved with it. And you know you're always welcome on

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Speaker 2: the show, and best of luck with the event and

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Speaker 2: always good catching up. Thank you, Thank you Lance. All right,

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Speaker 2: take care there you go. Rich Newman Chemba Credit Union,

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Speaker 2: MLK Classic Exavier Cinta Center one week from tonight. Starts

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Speaker 2: at nude high noon Lakota West at Hamilton, followed by

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Speaker 2: Ryle and Oldham County at one forty five, Lakota East

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Speaker 2: and Middletown at three thirty stex and Cubcath at five fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Information mlkdash Classic dot com for their website and on

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Speaker 2: all social media platforms as well. There is a developing

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Speaker 2: situation out of Lexington tonight. This is not good news

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Speaker 2: for the Kentucky Wildcats. Jalen Lowe is having surgery on

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Speaker 2: his shoulder, the point guard, and his season is over

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Speaker 2: surgery on the shoulder. The junior averaging eight points, two

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Speaker 2: rebounds and about two and a half assist per game,

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Speaker 2: will miss the remainder of the season. But by the way,

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Speaker 2: and I want to mention this a little bit later

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Speaker 2: in the show, we're on the subject of high school basketball,

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Speaker 2: and I so appreciate Andrew Lovin's who passed this along

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Speaker 2: an email last week, and I spent time talking with

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Speaker 2: Skinny and Tom Gamble Chief about this over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: I want to get into maybe around eight thirty or

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Speaker 2: tonight final segment of the show. It was forty about

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Speaker 2: forty three years ago around this time that the Famous

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Speaker 2: Recipe Classic started in Northern Kentucky. And I knew nothing

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Speaker 2: about this until Andrew passed on the information because I

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Speaker 2: had left and I was at the time this started

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Speaker 2: in eighty three. I was in a junior at Carbal

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Speaker 2: High School, and I didn't come back till about the

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Speaker 2: time it finally ended its run in ninety seven. But

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Speaker 2: I am fascinated by all the stories I heard surrounding

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Speaker 2: the Famous Recipe Classic, which was a sixteen team tournament

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Speaker 2: in Northern Kentucky involving the top eight Northern Kentucky high

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Speaker 2: school teams and the best eight teams available around the

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Speaker 2: state for the tournament. I love some of the background

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Speaker 2: on this. I want to spend some time on it

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Speaker 2: coming up in the eight o'clock around eight thirty or

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Speaker 2: so tonight, by the way, before new shout out, and

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Speaker 2: but I want to give him a public shout out

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Speaker 2: because I forgot last week to the Cowboy. Jeff Brantley

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Speaker 2: named last week the Ohio Sportscaster of the Year by

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Speaker 2: the National Sports Media Association. Really cool, really happy for

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Speaker 2: the Cowboy and happy for my guy. Christen Airy named

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Speaker 2: the Indiana Sportscaster of the Year by the National Sports

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Speaker 2: Media Association. Chris who's been on Talking Pacers longtime voice

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Speaker 2: of the Pacers twentieth season this year, I believe his

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Speaker 2: Voice of the Pacers. Second time he's received the award.

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Speaker 2: He for I think it was eighteen seasons. Was the

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Speaker 2: play by play voice of the Indiana Fever, their WNBA team.

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Speaker 2: He's been the play by play voice of My Butler Bulldogs.

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Speaker 2: He's a member of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Graduated from Westfield High School in Westfield, Indiana, played for

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Speaker 2: his dad Bob, and then went on to Wabash and

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Speaker 2: was a member of the nineteen eighty two Division III

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Speaker 2: National Championship basketball team, the Little Giants and the Topper.

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Speaker 2: He lives in Carmel, so he is Goodbye me, shout

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Speaker 2: out to Christen Ai and to the Cowboy. Jeff Brantley.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's turn into the eight o'clock hour. You've

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Speaker 2: had some time to digest the week that was last

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Speaker 2: week as a Bengals fan, you heard you read a

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Speaker 2: statement from Mike Brown. You heard the season ending wrap

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Speaker 2: up news conference with Zach Taylor. You heard Friday's Q

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Speaker 2: and A with Duke Tobin. I want to circle back

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Speaker 2: and get into how that was received by you, and

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Speaker 2: I have a question coming out of last week that

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Speaker 2: I will present to you. In the seven o'clock hour,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Phillips around the corner. In the eight o'clock hour,

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Speaker 2: It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet seven

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between seven pm and eight pm.

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Speaker 2: of the show. Looking forward to extra innings this season

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Speaker 2: as well. Hope you had a great weekend. I watched

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Speaker 2: We watched every NFL playoff game. I checked out at

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Speaker 2: halftime just after halftime of last night's game. But the

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Speaker 2: other one's holy cow. We'll get into some NFL playoffs

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Speaker 2: in a bit. If you missed the first hour, man

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Speaker 2: that way, if I could say so much Solf, that

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Speaker 2: was an action packed hour. Travis Steele the Miami RedHawks.

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Speaker 2: I love seventeen to no cool story already, but I

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Speaker 2: just love the I don't want to. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I go so far as say the reinvention of

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Speaker 2: Travis Steele, but I love him talking about his evolution

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Speaker 2: as a coach and the freedom he's willing to give

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Speaker 2: his players, and how he's not managing every possession and

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Speaker 2: a system, understand the system, He trusts them to do

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Speaker 2: It is truly something to behold. I mean, who who

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Speaker 2: in this day and age hits fifty three percent from

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Speaker 2: the field the Miami RedHawks do. If you missed it,

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Speaker 2: podcast has that Kyle Smith cool story, Pride LaSalle High

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Speaker 2: School back home playing for the Orange and Blue now

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Speaker 2: of FC Cincinnati, and Rich Numan on the Fantastic high

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Speaker 2: School Hoops taking place one Week from Tonight podcast two

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up one hour from now, seg caught

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Speaker 2: up with Brandon Phillips. You're gonna hear from BP one

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Speaker 2: of the newest members of the Reds Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in less than an hour. Now, We've got

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Speaker 2: plenty of football to get to in this hour, So

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Speaker 2: what do you say we go? I thought about this

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Speaker 2: a lot since since Friday and the week that was.

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Speaker 2: If you were a Bengal, you got a statement released

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Speaker 2: from team president Mike Brown on Monday following the end

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Speaker 2: of the season, you had Zach on Wednesday with his

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Speaker 2: season wrap up press conference with the media, and then

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Speaker 2: Duke Tobin broke from the norm and met with the

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Speaker 2: media for sixty four minutes of Q and A on Friday.

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Speaker 2: So you heard from the president, you heard from the

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Speaker 2: head coach, and you heard from the de facto general manager.

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Speaker 2: And I'm curious of how that messaging was received because

651
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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about it from this standpoint. If you

652
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Speaker 2: go back to February fifth of twenty nineteen, we're coming

653
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Speaker 2: up on the anniversary here in a couple of weeks.

654
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Speaker 2: But on February fifth, twenty nineteen, the Bengals introduced Zach

655
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Speaker 2: Taylor as their new head coach, placing Marvin Lewis after

656
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Speaker 2: sixteen seasons. And I want you to take a listen

657
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: to what Mike said that day about the decision having

658
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: moved on from Marvin to hire Zach and the fan

659
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Speaker 2: angle in this answer. Take a listen to Mike Brown

660
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Speaker 2: February fifth, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 3: We had lost some of the faith in our fan base.

662
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: That was clear. That's an allowed message. I think we've

663
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Speaker 3: done it at the appropriate time. We tried to give

664
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Speaker 3: every opportunity for it to grab hold otherwise, but that's

665
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Speaker 3: behind us. I want to look to the future and

666
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: I think we're starting that now and our fan base.

667
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Speaker 2: One seven Mike Brown February fifth, twenty nineteen, on change

668
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: and why change was made. Quote, we had lost some

669
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Speaker 2: of the faith from the fan base, that was clear,

670
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: he said. That sent a loud message. Well, the offer

671
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: of newfound faith was a new head coach this time around.

672
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: After a losing season and three consecutive seasons of missing

673
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs, the Bengals are answering their fans with the

674
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Speaker 2: status quo, running it back with the de facto general manager,

675
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Speaker 2: the head coach, his assistance, and the same scouting department.

676
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Speaker 2: So my question, and I've thought about this a lot.

677
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Speaker 2: I thought about it a lot over the weekend. If

678
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Speaker 2: status quo is the offer this time? Where are you

679
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: finding your faith? Because I think this feels similar to

680
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 2: when you needed change back in twenty nineteen. Now, Zach

681
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: hasn't been there as long as Marvin, certainly, but there

682
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: was a need, a request, a demand for change, so

683
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: much so it was recognized by the owner who indicated

684
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: you had lost faith in the Bengals, and that was clear,

685
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: and that sent a loud message. So the response was

686
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: we got to give him a new coach. Well, this

687
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 2: time around, I feel faith wavering, fading, frustration growing, three

688
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: straight years, no playoffs, losing season this season, and what

689
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: they are offering is to run it back with the

690
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Speaker 2: same group that was here this past season. So in

691
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, the offer was a new coach. In twenty

692
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: twenty six, the offer is the status quo. So where

693
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Speaker 2: are you finding your faith? Is my question? And I

694
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Speaker 2: asked because I don't know. I'm curious, and I'll open

695
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Speaker 2: up the lines at five point three seven four nine,

696
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Speaker 2: seven thousand, one eight hundred, the big one to get

697
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: into this because I don't know that. I don't know

698
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: that it has really been viewed from this lens, but

699
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Speaker 2: I think it should be.

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Speaker 9: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was one thing when the fans had lost the faith,

702
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: to give them the new coach and say here is

703
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: your newfound faith is offering the status quo to you.

704
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: It is that? Is that enough? Is that? Where where

705
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: will the faith be found? And maybe that's simply Will Lance,

706
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: it's Joe Burrow because we've got one of the best

707
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the NFL. I think that's something that has

708
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: to be considered in this scenario. Because the give and

709
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: take then been a coach. The give and take now

710
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: has simply been Duke's coming back, Zach's coming back, the

711
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 2: assistants are coming back, the scouting departments coming back, and

712
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: we believe we can fix it because we've done it before.

713
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: My sense is that is going to be received in

714
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: a much different way than it was seven years ago.

715
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Speaker 2: Am I right? Or am I wrong? And I was

716
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Speaker 2: struck by this question, this kind of line of thinking

717
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 2: being offered up in question for him to Zach on Wednesday.

718
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Speaker 2: I think it was Baby of the ESPN. Don't quote me.

719
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: I think it was Ben Baby. I haven't listened to

720
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Speaker 2: this since last week, but I want you to take

721
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Speaker 2: a listen to this question posed to Zach about winning

722
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: back the fans. Take a listen.

723
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you got to win folks back?

724
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Speaker 2: I don't worry about that.

725
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 3: I know.

726
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Speaker 10: Winning makes believers of us. All that makes sense. I

727
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 10: can understand how that quote came to be because that's

728
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 10: a true statement. It's written in our building with set

729
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 10: every day. But that's the truth. You know, you go

730
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Speaker 10: through hard times and there's disappointment, and then all of

731
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Speaker 10: a sudden, you win some games. You're right back and

732
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 10: thick and people can't wait to jump on board. So

733
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Speaker 10: I love the past. It's it is great being here

734
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Speaker 10: and having passionate fans. It is, and I don't take

735
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Speaker 10: that for granted. There's other places you go where it

736
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 10: doesn't see it seems like they're indifferent, maybe as they're

737
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 10: sitting in the stadium and the game's going on, and here,

738
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Speaker 10: you know they're not indifferent. Here, they're passionate and they

739
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 10: have high expectations and they want us to win, and

740
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Speaker 10: they're going to support us, and they really want to

741
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 10: support a winner, and so we got to give them that,

742
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 10: and we're gonna work our tails off to do that

743
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Speaker 10: for him.

744
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor. Last week, I'll go back to this quote again,

745
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: we had lost some of the faith from our fan base.

746
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: That was clear. That sent a loud message. I was

747
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: under the impression that volume level of a message was

748
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: being sent by the fan base. Again this time, let's

749
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Speaker 2: take your calls when we continue. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

750
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Speaker 2: seven thousand, what eight hundred the Big One. It's RNL

751
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Speaker 2: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW

752
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: seven seven hundred WLW RNL Carrier Sports Talk is the show.

753
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Speaker 2: It is presented by Kelsey Chevrolet. We thank you for listening.

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Speaker 2: You're listening on the iHeart Radio app outside the greater

755
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: Cincinnati area, thank well. If you're listening anywhere with the

756
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Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app, thank you. But shout out to Tallahassee,

757
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: Florida tonight and Santa Fe and spoke can all checking

758
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: in tonight the iHeart Radio app. Listening to sports Talk

759
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: put it on your phone, your tablet, your kindle, your

760
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: home computer, and listen from anywhere with the iHeart Radio app.

761
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: Al right, if you give me ninety seconds, I need

762
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: to brag about my exploits over the weekend because I'm

763
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: not very good with things around the house. Kelly would

764
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 2: vouch for that. She'd be nodding her head right now.

765
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: But I have cracked the code when it comes to

766
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: Christmas trees and decorations. I decided last year that we

767
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: could pull off decorating the Christmas tree, and then instead

768
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: of undecorating the Christmas tree, taking all the ornaments off,

769
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Speaker 2: putting them all in boxes, taking them back down into

770
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Speaker 2: the basement, Christmas tree back down to the base. I said,

771
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Speaker 2: why don't we just take the Christmas tree at the

772
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: end of Christmas each year and I will carry it

773
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Speaker 2: upstairs intact to the spare bedroom where it will stay

774
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: for the year, and the following year I will bring

775
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: it downstairs into the living room already made. And Kelly

776
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: said that will never work. I said, you want to bet,

777
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: I will have you know that. Saturday night, approximately seven fifteen,

778
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: I successfully executed the second year of the transformation of

779
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: the Christmas tree from the family room, up the steps

780
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Speaker 2: to the spare bedroom, where it we'll sit for the

781
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Speaker 2: next year. If you don't believe me, there's video evidence,

782
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: and I did not drop. There was not a single

783
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: ornament harmed or that dropped off the tree in the

784
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Speaker 2: moving of that tree from the family room, through the kitchen,

785
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Speaker 2: through the living room, up the stairs. There's a lot

786
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Speaker 2: of steps to the spare bedroom. Not a single ornament dropped. Now,

787
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Speaker 2: if you watch the video on all social media platforms,

788
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: you will see a long cord still on the tree

789
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Speaker 2: that was hanging off of the tree, which I very

790
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: well could have stepped on going up the steps. I

791
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: can only assume Kelly was preoccupied with the shooting of

792
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 2: the video of it to not warn me that there

793
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: was a long cord from the lights that that was

794
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: dangling down right by where I was stepping each step up.

795
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Speaker 2: But I showed precision, agility, and great execution. And that

796
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Speaker 2: tree will rest peacefully intact for one year, and I'll

797
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: see it next Thanksgiving. Right, let's go out. Oh before

798
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: we go back to the votes. If you heard from

799
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Speaker 2: Mike and you heard from Zach, let me complete the trio.

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Speaker 2: This is something Duke said about you the Bengals Fan

801
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: on Friday. Take a listen.

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00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 11: It goes without saying, this season is not what we expect,

803
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 11: certainly not what we will accept. And everybody here knows

804
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 11: that it was frustrating, It was challenging, It was disappointing

805
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 11: for all of us, but more importantly, it was all

806
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 11: those things for our fans. We feel that that weighs

807
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 11: on us. It hurts us because we know that they

808
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 11: have high expectations for us. We embrace those high expectations.

809
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 11: Believe me, we have high expectations for this football team

810
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 11: as well. We didn't meet those expectations. The group we

811
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 11: put out there did not fulfill those expectations.

812
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: So it motivates us.

813
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 11: It really motivates us to be better to put a

814
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 11: group out there that will make the city proud.

815
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin on Friday. By the way, my dad checking in.

816
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: Listen here shout out Saint James Plantation, North Carolina. Saint James. Hello,

817
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: listening on the iHeart Radio app Tonight, Love the iHeart

818
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: Radio app. Love the ribs that Kelly and I had

819
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: made yesterday. My dad sent for a Christmas present from

820
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: New Brussels. The New Brussels. It's like ribs and brisket

821
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: and cheeses and o oh man, going home and finish

822
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Speaker 2: off the rest of them tonight, Let's go to the

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Speaker 2: phones five one, three, seven four, nine, seven thousand, one,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred, the big one, John, you were on seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: L W welcome.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Lance, Hey, how are you great? First off, Happy

827
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Speaker 12: New Year to you and Kelsey and the family. I

828
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 12: think what weighs on mister Tobyn and mister Brown is

829
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 12: the extra money in their wallet from where they raised

830
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Speaker 12: the ticket prices for US season ticket holders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

832
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 12: I told my son, I've been a sick season ticket

833
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 12: holder now for years. I told my son, we have

834
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Speaker 12: four tickets in section two thirty. And I told him Lance,

835
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 12: I mean, I've been born and raised a Bengal fan.

836
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 12: I remember the Freezer Bowl. I remember all them days

837
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 12: and whatnot, and I remember the dark days of David

838
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 12: Shula and those years. You know, maybe maybe we got

839
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 12: spoiled out the Super Bowl a couple of years ago,

840
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 12: and then the AFC Championship game that kind of got

841
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 12: taken away from us there in Kansas City. But you know,

842
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 12: I I want to know. I'm like you who you

843
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 12: have one of the greatest jobs in the world, Lance,

844
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 12: talking in your hometown against for both of your both

845
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 12: of your all of your teams around here. You know, phenomenal,

846
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 12: kudos to you because that's phenomenal.

847
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 7: Uh.

848
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Speaker 12: But you know, status quo. I mean, when when do

849
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 12: we get to a point where we say, you know,

850
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 12: you know you need to fix the problem. You know,

851
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 12: and because that's all we've heard is well, we're not

852
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 12: changing anything, not change anything, not changing. Well, I guarantee

853
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 12: you there's a lot of fans out there that that

854
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 12: will be changing things. Uh, and that we if you

855
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 12: don't fix this this year, you think you you've lost fans.

856
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 12: Now go go another year of six and eleven and

857
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 12: and come back next year and say, hey, status quo,

858
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 12: we're going to run run it back again. I just

859
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 12: I don't know that I'm at Lance. You know this

860
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 12: organization of both of them, let's just say both fan

861
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 12: bases and both organizations. Yeah, uh you know, uh it

862
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 12: just it. I and I love going to the games, Lance,

863
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 12: I love going to the games with my son. There's

864
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 12: nothing better than time. You can't get I tell people

865
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 12: all the time, you can't get back time. Yep, you know,

866
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 12: you just can't and uh, I wish you know they

867
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 12: would have come out and said, well, you know, we're

868
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 12: going to change this, this and this, But they didn't.

869
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 12: You know, they didn't. Dude didn't say that. Mike didn't

870
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 12: say that. Uh, Zach Schurzell didn't say that. I just

871
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 12: you know, I'm like you Lance, you know, when when

872
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 12: when do the do we accept mediocrity around here? I know,

873
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 12: let me say this five thousand dollars later for my

874
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 12: tickets in section two thirty that I don't want mediocrity.

875
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: John. I appreciate the kind word. And I'm sure glad

876
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: you called tonight. Do it again? All right, appreciated, l

877
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: thank you, all right, thank you. You know, I think

878
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 2: the bottom line here is if the organization is not

879
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 2: going to change, then they force the fans to consider

880
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: whether they have to change. That's the most un enviable

881
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 2: position for an organization where you're forcing your fans to say,

882
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: all right, if they're not going to change, then maybe

883
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: I have to change. I am a big track record guy.

884
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm a big back of the baseball card guy. I'm

885
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: a big When someone shows you who and what they are,

886
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: believe them. I just know this. Duke Tobin stood up

887
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: there last week and said, believe him. He believes they

888
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: can get this fixed because they've done it before. And

889
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: yet he has built twenty four teams over twenty four years.

890
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: Only eleven of those teams produced winning seasons. That's a

891
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: record of one to eighty five, one, nine and four.

892
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: That is asking for a humongous leap of fai from

893
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 2: a fan base who says, wait a minute, You've done

894
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 2: twenty four editions of a Bengals team and only eleven

895
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 2: of them had a winning season, and you want me

896
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: to believe you'll fix it again because you've fixed it before. Well,

897
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: if you didn't fix it last year or the year

898
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: before the year before that, when do you plan to

899
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: fix it the next time? That's the question being asked.

900
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: I think of every Bengals fan right now. Seven thirty

901
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: news time RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet

902
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW newly named Red's Hall of Famer. His

903
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: thoughts on that and more coming up just after the

904
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 2: eight o'clock news. Bengals fans remember the name Jordan Shipley,

905
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: wide receiver. He's forty years old now. He was a

906
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 2: third round pick of the Bengals out of Texas in

907
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: twenty ten, his rookie season. I've forgotten he was this

908
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: good in his rookie season, fifty two catches for six

909
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: hundred yards and three touchdowns. Well, sadly, and this story

910
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: now happened. I think it was last weekend. I think

911
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: we're a week into this. He is now listed in

912
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 2: critical but stable condition after an accident while operating a

913
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: machine on his ranch near his home in Burnett, Texas.

914
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: He suffered severe burns on his body. He was driven

915
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: to a local hospital by one of the workers at

916
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: the ranch, and then he was care flighted to Austin.

917
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: I have been following this on Facebook, the updates being

918
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: offered by his wife and his sister on occasion. I

919
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: can give you a few of the points they've made

920
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: public over the last few days. His sister, over towards

921
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: the end of last week, had asked for continued prayers,

922
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: prayers that the cells work overtime in healing under the

923
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: surface of his skin and the nerves. She said, please

924
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: pray for full mobility in his arms and legs, in

925
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: both hands, and this got me, she wrote, Please pray

926
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 2: against guilt and shame. He keeps telling his wife Sonny

927
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 2: that he is so sorry thinking that you know he

928
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 2: caused this on the farm. Please pray for optimal kidney function.

929
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 2: And there was a note in one of the updates

930
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: that Jordan whispered to his siblings in the room at

931
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: one point, quote God's not done with me yet. And

932
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 2: they released a photo of Jordan Shipley's arm, left arm raised, bandaged, bloodied,

933
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: and he was giving the hookham horn sign as a

934
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: Texas longhorn. An update from his sister or wife on

935
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: Friday was the surgeon came in and they were taking

936
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 2: him into surgery, and it was expected it was going

937
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: to be a good ninety minutes, and it was going

938
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: to be a difficult surgery because they were going to

939
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: have to determine, you know, what skin to I don't

940
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 2: want to get too deep or technical or gross yet,

941
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 2: but if they could savage a lot of the skin.

942
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: And Jordan's wife said in the post that twenty minutes later,

943
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: the doctor came back into the room and said to

944
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: her quote, I don't know what kind of prayers you

945
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: all have been praying, but I'm done already. He said.

946
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: I put away all my sharp tools, and he explained

947
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 2: that the burns once the bandages came off, looked better

948
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: than anything he had expected to find after the initial

949
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: assessment the day before. Now, according to the updates, there

950
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: is a long recovery, there will be scarring, there will

951
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: be long term changes. But as his wife said, we

952
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: got good news that was better than the best case scenario,

953
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: a miracle. I just wanted you all to hear it

954
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: and rejoice with us. He is worthy of all your praise.

955
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: The update today the latest was he had a rough

956
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: few days over the weekend. Today was better than the

957
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: last few days. Nothing new to report, and that Thursday

958
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: this week is expected to be another big news day

959
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: of what they learn in terms of progress in what

960
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: is next for him. But just just must have been

961
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: a horrific scene at the ranch and severe burns on

962
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: his body and driven by a ranch worker to the

963
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: hospital and then care flight to Austin. But trending in

964
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: a certainly a more positive direction. That is the latest

965
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 2: on Jordan Shipley and his icy updates posted by the family.

966
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: I will be sure to pass those along as well.

967
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: Back out to the phones. How about let's go Western Hills. Hey, Bob,

968
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Welcome to seven hundred WLW.

969
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 9: Hey, Lance, first longtime listener, first on caller, Yeah, thank you.

970
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 9: I saw the you do a great job, by the way,

971
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 9: and I and I saw the Dicktobin press conference, Duke Togum.

972
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 9: I'm sorry. And anyway, it just it starts at the top, Lance,

973
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 9: I think with Mike Brown, and I don't think things

974
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 9: are going to change. You know, nothing against Duke or

975
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 9: or Zach Taylor, but it's just like Mike Brown is

976
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 9: just not committed to bring it in a real head coach,

977
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 9: you know, like we could have hit maybe Sean Payton

978
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 9: come in and and then double or triple our scouting, uh,

979
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 9: you know, compliment and just put things in motion. But

980
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 9: I just don't think it's going to happen. And as

981
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 9: far as you know, like their draft choices, Lance, I

982
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 9: mean there's been so many busts, you know, a Blahee Fisher,

983
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 9: that center, what was it, Pright guy Jackson, Burton Burton

984
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 9: and Ross the guy that you know, and it's just

985
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 9: on and on and on in Lance, maybe for a

986
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 9: hang up here. I don't want to keep you guys

987
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 9: from the rest of the callers, but is it true

988
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 9: the Bengals use some kind of scouting report from a

989
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 9: company or whatever that gives them a lot of scouting information,

990
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 9: and so they having boots on the ground.

991
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's in addition to what they do.

992
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 2: There's a what's called a blessed Tho scouting service, and

993
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: I think most teams are privy to this information. But

994
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: to your point of boots on the ground, I'll never

995
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: understand or I'll never accept the idea that they've got

996
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: enough information about all the players. I've never understood what

997
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: the downside would be to having more boots on the ground,

998
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: because it's more players to look at and more players

999
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: to cross check and have more people look at because

1000
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 2: if you have a scouting department of a six, maybe

1001
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: you see a guy in a great day and you

1002
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: fall in love with him. Maybe you see him on

1003
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: a bad day and you fall out of love with him,

1004
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: but maybe that was just one day. And if you

1005
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 2: crosscheck and have guys see a player more than once,

1006
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: it adds the perspective on a player.

1007
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 9: It does Lanson, We've got so much talent here. I

1008
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 9: know Mike Brown doesn't probably want to do it, but

1009
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 9: you've got Dave Lapham, you got Munoz, You've got you know,

1010
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 9: some of the other offensive players that still were in town,

1011
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 9: if he would pay them and let them go in like,

1012
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 9: you know, as a final check or something. And then

1013
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 9: when we get a good guy like Amy Whitworth, how

1014
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 9: he let Whitworth leave.

1015
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 4: Is beyond me.

1016
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 9: I think we hit him. We would have won that

1017
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I truely believe that. But anyway, I don't.

1018
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 4: Want to keep you.

1019
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 9: But it's a shame we're stuck with Mike Brown. And

1020
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 9: I guess the only thing like that previous callers say

1021
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 9: you just don't renew your season tickets.

1022
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 5: I guess I don't don't know what options.

1023
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob, I'm honored you call for the first time.

1024
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: Please don't make it your last. Let's do it again sometime.

1025
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 9: All right, Okay, thank you, sir, Thanks, thank you.

1026
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: My frustration with the scouting and there their response is

1027
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 2: they have all the information. They don't lack for information,

1028
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: and it's not the volume of information. And I'm paraphrasing here,

1029
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: but Zach said on Friday, when mistakes have been made,

1030
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: they've been made at the decision point. And I heard that,

1031
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: am I wait a minute, The mistakes aren't made by

1032
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: lack of volume of information, meaning we've got all the

1033
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: information we need on a player, that it's at the

1034
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 2: decision point. Well, how do you think you arrived at

1035
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: the decision point with the information? I mean, here's what

1036
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: it just it really galls me, from the simplest of terms.

1037
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Imagine believing the smallest scouting department in the NFL by

1038
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: far has all the information it needs. Just say that

1039
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: out loud. And when Duke says it's not about the

1040
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: volume of the information, that they'd never lacked info on

1041
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: a player. And again when they when they've made a

1042
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: mistake it was at the decision point, I don't know

1043
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: how that is expected to be accepted as a logical answer.

1044
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: Riddle me this, batman. Why does every other organization have

1045
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: more scouts than the Bengals. Why would that be? More

1046
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 2: scouts is more eyeballs on more players and more cross

1047
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: checking opportunities. My daughter could have drafted Peyton's twenty three.

1048
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: She could have drafted Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase in

1049
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: the last they get six drafts. The Bengals have used

1050
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 2: twelve picks on defensive linemen. Do you know what the Bengals'

1051
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: biggest need is this offseason? As admitted to by Duke Tobin.

1052
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: What they'll be looking for defensive line help may Waite

1053
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: in the last six drafts, the team with all the

1054
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 2: information they need, not lacking him from on any player.

1055
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: They've drafted twelve defensive linemen, and yet they still need

1056
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: defensive lineman. I mean, I'm left to believe that they

1057
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 2: had all the information and they needed on Jermaine Burton

1058
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 2: and that the decision point was where the mistake was made.

1059
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 2: What I don't even know what I mean saying that

1060
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: out loud It drives me crazy. But imagine thinking you

1061
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: are so smart that you can scout and evaluate players

1062
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: with less than half the people the average NFL scouting

1063
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: department has. Say that out loud, No, we're good, We're good.

1064
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: Average number of scouts a personnel in a scouting department

1065
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: is somewhere around twenty two to twenty four. Bengals is

1066
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: closer to ten depending on how you go buy a

1067
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: job description eight nine, ten. So imagine thinking you are

1068
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 2: so smart and have all your bases covered to say,

1069
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 2: we can do this as well as anybody else with

1070
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: half the people. Why would you believe that What would

1071
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: be the down side to having more people? Not even more?

1072
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: What would be the downside to having as many people

1073
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 2: as the average NFL team. Their response is the old

1074
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Speaker 2: too many cooks in the kitchen. Come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're we're all adults here.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: This isn't cooks in the kitchen. This is scouting the

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: lifeblood of this organization and it's being executed with the

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: smallest department in the NFL. How is that supposed to

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 2: be taken? Seriously? Lexington, we go, Joe, what do you know?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: Lance? How you doing? And prayers go out to mister Shipley.

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Speaker 2: That's for sure, absolutely well said.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, I just want to touch on toe and

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 13: me the biggest syndicator that he's not for the job,

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01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 13: Like you said, one hundred percent scouting. I've been saying

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01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 13: that for ten years. But us how the Trey Henderson

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01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 13: episode went down, and and how they addressed it. Him

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01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,479
Speaker 13: sitting out in all mini camps and the preseason and

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 13: not training and getting hurt second game in the Jets game.

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Speaker 13: That's why he got hurt. It's because he didn't train.

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Speaker 13: And you know, when when I was in the military,

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 13: eighty second hunter and first stairborn. If we missed a briefing,

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Speaker 13: look we're done.

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 4: We're done. You're under contract.

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Speaker 13: The public, the fans, the NFL world never should have

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01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 13: known the situation with with the Trey and it bled

1098
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 13: down to the wording in the contract with Shamar Stewart

1099
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 13: that should have and that's all on Tobin and that

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01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 13: created such a such a cancer. And because he's the

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01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 13: face of our defense and and to me, tobn not

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Speaker 13: handling that correctly and getting him in to the mini camps,

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 13: to the summer camps in the preseason, that right there

1104
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Speaker 13: is you know, I'm going a loss, but I think

1105
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 13: we need to boycott the games myself.

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

1107
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's up to every individual person. And

1108
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 2: there is a right. There is a love for the

1109
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: NFL that runs deep. There is a camaraderie of family

1110
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: members and the experience of tailgating. And I'll go back

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Speaker 2: to what I said in the last hour. If the

1112
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Speaker 2: organization is not going to change, then you put your

1113
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: fans in a position where they have to consider if

1114
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: they're going to change. And that's a very dangerous spot

1115
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: to put your fan base in, right, right, But.

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Speaker 13: I just think collectively the fans have we're the ones

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01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 13: that really right the checks. I mean, if it wasn't

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01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 13: for the fans paying two hundred dollars for a seat,

1119
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 13: four hundred dollars, one hundred dollars jersey of fifteen dollars beer,

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01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 13: where do they get their money to pay the players?

1121
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 13: Is my you know, so one fan and I get it,

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01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 13: but all fans together, I think we kind of need

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01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 13: to have our own collective fan base and come together

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Speaker 13: and make some decisions.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Joey and enjoyed. Just call again sometime. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're heading down the stretch. In our second hour, third hour,

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Speaker 2: headlined and highlighted by Brandon Phillips, who's the leadoff hitter

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Speaker 2: of the hour. All ahead RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented

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Speaker 2: by Kelsey Valet seven hunter WLW for a minute's final

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01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 2: word in this hour, delivered from Montgomery, Mark, you were

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Speaker 2: on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 14: Hello, Mark, Hey, how are you?

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01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 4: Lance?

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01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry? Good good, good welcome. What's on your mind? Hey?

1136
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: A couple of things.

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Speaker 14: You know, I wasn't expecting the Bengals to do anything

1138
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 14: with Zach Tailor. I mean, that's just not how they operate. Uh,

1139
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 14: but you know, at least I would have liked to

1140
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 14: have heard that they were going to make some changes

1141
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 14: on how they scout and develop, because you know, we

1142
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 14: all know the biggest issue with this team has been

1143
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 14: Lineman and how many misses they've had in the last

1144
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 14: twenty five or thirty years. You could fund a new

1145
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 14: hotel in downtown Cincinnati with the money they've wasted on Wineman.

1146
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 14: So I mean, to add it up, you could actually

1147
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 14: build a high rise hotel in downtown Cincinnati for what

1148
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 14: they've wasted.

1149
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: So frustrating, you know, that's that was I.

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01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 14: Mean, if I would have heard that, I would have said, Okay,

1151
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 14: well maybe we're on the right track.

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 13: You know.

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01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 14: The other thing is, like, I just want to make

1154
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 14: a quick comment on this Trey Hendrickson thing. Trey Hendrickson

1155
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 14: had a contract and he decided that he didn't want

1156
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 14: to play and make a big stink about it. And

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01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, these guys sign a contract and if you

1158
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 14: want to take advantage of where the market is, then

1159
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 14: sign a one year deal and renegotiate it every year

1160
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 14: to what the current market is. You can have it

1161
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 14: both ways. So I don't have any sympathy at all

1162
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 14: for that.

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 8: You know.

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01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 14: On the Bengals are not wrong with that. You know,

1165
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 14: you sign a contract, you honor it if you if

1166
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,040
Speaker 14: you get a quote from your HVAC guy. And he

1167
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 14: was back halfway through and says, hey, I need another

1168
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 14: two thousand dollars for your furnace. What are you going

1169
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 14: to tell him?

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01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 2: Yep, well said very well, said thank you.

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Speaker 9: That's it for me.

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Speaker 2: That's all I need. Thank you, thank you. And let's

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 2: end the hour with some college basketball. NK. You lost

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 2: yesterday by two to Green Bay. You see, lost to

1175
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: UCF by one. Here's Wes Miller after the game, a

1176
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: tough one. The Knights went ahead with eleven seconds left.

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01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: Jalen Selenstein missed a game winning three point attempt at

1178
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 2: the buzzer. Bearcats fall seventy three, seventy two. Wes with

1179
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: Dan and Terry after the game, and you're just.

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Speaker 15: So hurt for our players.

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01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 4: That's just.

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Speaker 15: I mean, you know the truth is is that proud

1183
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 15: of them. You can see other than the result, which

1184
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 15: is extremely frustrating. You can see the improvement, right, you

1185
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 15: can like, you can see consistent improvement.

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01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 2: You want so bad.

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Speaker 15: I think people have children out there understand this.

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01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 2: When they do what you ask and they do it right.

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Speaker 15: You want them to get the reward, and I heard

1190
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 15: so bad that they didn't get the reward the last

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01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 15: couple of games, especially tonight.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: The truth is, we just got to stay together and

1193
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 2: keep going.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 16: Like it sounds cliche, but it's the only We're on

1197
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 16: the right track. We have a good basketball club. I

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01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 16: hate that we haven't got the results because you just

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Speaker 16: feel like we're I feel like we're one of the

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Speaker 16: better teams in college basketball. I think we can play

1201
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 16: with anybody and beat anybuddy, and we haven't gotten results.

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Speaker 2: So I hate that.

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Speaker 8: Hmm.

1204
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Speaker 2: Okay. The net rankings came out today. Perdue is five.

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01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: These are the rankings used by the Committee to some

1206
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 2: extent in determining the NCAA Tournament field. Perdue is number

1207
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Speaker 2: five in the net rankings. Louisville is eighteen, Indiana thirty four.

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Speaker 2: At thirty five is Kentucky thirty nine Ohio State. The

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01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 2: Miami RedHawks are at fifty three, Dayton Drew Aster Highty's

1210
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: Flyers are at eighty two. The Bearcats are at ninety

1211
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Speaker 2: five in the net rankings. Xavier is at one to nine,

1212
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Speaker 2: Wright State one twenty one. NKU won seventy one in

1213
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 2: the Ohio Bobcats at one eighty seven, the newest edition

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Speaker 2: of the net Rankings from the NCAA. All right to

1215
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Speaker 2: a done. Second hour, Let's get into some reds. Brandon

1216
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 2: Phillips to lead things off. Bullpen conversation long about eight

1217
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: twenty and then anyone remember the famous recipe Chicken High

1218
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 2: School basketball tournament. A thought on that round eight thirty

1219
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: five or so, and on this date, of course. To

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Speaker 2: wrap it all up at eight fifty, let's go RNL

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Speaker 2: Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet and heard right

1222
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,720
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's keep moving, no reason to slow down now.

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Speaker 2: Third hour unfolding eight oh seven on seven hundred WLWRNL

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Speaker 2: Carrier Sports Talk presented by kill Ce Chevrolet. I'm Lance

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Speaker 2: kamlos Year and your host Russ Jackson, your producer. We

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01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: thank you for being our listeners tonight hang out for

1229
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: this hour. Linta handing things off to Gary. Jeff Walker

1230
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 2: serves up the nightcap tonight at nine o'clock. They're listening

1231
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 2: in Lombard, Illinois. I lived in Lombard, Illinois for a

1232
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: while when I worked at CLTV, Hello Lombard, and they're

1233
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: listening in San Antonio, Texaskell and I went to San

1234
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: Antonio about a year during the Bengals bye last year,

1235
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: first time and love San Antonio, one of the most

1236
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 2: walkable cities in America. The weather was fantastic at that point.

1237
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: We will be going back to San Antonio. So thank

1238
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: you for listening on the iHeartRadio app in Lombard, Illinois,

1239
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 2: in San Antonio, Texas. All right. A couple of weeks ago,

1240
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: the Bengals announced Bengals Red's announced their Hall of Fame

1241
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: class at twenty twenty six Aaron Harang, Reggie Sanders, Lou Panela,

1242
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: and Brandon Phillips and Seg had a chance to catch

1243
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: up with Brandon and because we've had, you know, Monday,

1244
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 2: this is the first Monday I've had that hasn't been

1245
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: Bengals line since August. So I've got Mondays open now,

1246
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: I've got Thursdays open now, which used to be the

1247
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: roundtable showing. As much as I wish the Bengals season

1248
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 2: was was still going on, it does free up a

1249
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 2: more regular night to night of sports talk so on

1250
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: a night like tonight, I said, Man, this is the

1251
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: night Seg got a chance to catch up with him.

1252
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 2: Let's play it tonight. Here is Seg after the announcement,

1253
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,480
Speaker 2: catching up with the man they call BP, Brandon Phillips.

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 6: Congratulations, man, you're a Red's Hall of favor A.

1255
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 4: What's having man? How you doing?

1256
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me? I appreciate you, man, no problem.

1257
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 2: What's this? What's this honor mean to you?

1258
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 5: Man? It can mean so many things. I can say

1260
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,839
Speaker 5: one thing, though, I love my damn fans.

1261
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 4: I love my fans. Man. For them to.

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01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 5: Vote me in, I mean, you know, hopefully the Robbers

1263
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 5: they voted me in twos, they been.

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 4: It's all good. I love you.

1265
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 5: But but the heart and the soul is the fans, man.

1266
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I did it for the fans. I did

1267
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 5: it because I love the game of baseball, and also

1268
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 5: I did it for my family. But for myself to

1269
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 5: be inducted right now, I have to thank the fans,

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 5: and I think my teammates were really making as possible

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01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 5: for me.

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 6: Now, talk a little bit about the the journey. You

1273
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: started out with the Montreal Expos. You were then, you

1274
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 6: were what you were traded to Cleveland, and then all

1275
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 6: of a sudden, I guess you get a call and

1276
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 6: the Reds weren't you. It was in two thousand and six,

1277
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 6: and you played here till twenty sixteen. Tell me around

1278
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 6: the road, Brandon Phillips, I had to the Reds Hall

1279
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 6: of Fame.

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01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 5: Well you're doing throw bags, man, you're trying to make

1281
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 5: me cry over here. Man, dang got me think about

1282
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 5: the bad times. But you know what, we'll get great,

1283
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 5: We'll get the bad.

1284
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: You know, the goods coming.

1285
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 5: And stop telling people I got to dropped by the XO.

1286
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 5: Is he telling my And I still look young. I

1287
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 5: still like I'm in my late thirty because come on

1288
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 5: now I look good. But again, so I gotta say

1289
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 5: it again. So yes, I'll drift about the Expos. Was

1290
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 5: in the organization. I was in the organization for for

1291
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 5: a little bit, and you know I was going to

1292
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 5: get called up with with the Xpos to the to

1293
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 5: the Big Leason and am getting traded to the Indians,

1294
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 5: and you know the Indians.

1295
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 4: I was the guy. You know, I was a guy, and.

1296
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: We just said see I with my style of play,

1297
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 5: and I tried my best to be the best player

1298
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 5: I can really be.

1299
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 4: And you know, when you.

1300
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 5: When you're young, you don't really know what you got

1301
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 5: to do to be successful at a young age.

1302
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 4: Back then.

1303
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 5: It's totally different now how the game has really changed now,

1304
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 5: But back then, you know, I mean, when once you

1305
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 5: get up there, you got to produce. You can't be

1306
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 5: hitting two thirty. You can't be hitting too citty and

1307
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 5: get called up to the big leads. That that was

1308
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 5: never done back then. And I ended up getting designated

1309
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 5: for assignment in two thousand and six, and I was

1310
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 5: at home practicing with my high school team and I

1311
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 5: was like, man, this is my first time.

1312
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: I've been defeated.

1313
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 5: I felt like I failed had something for the first

1314
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 5: time ever in my life. And then that's you know,

1315
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 5: Wayne Kresky called me and he was my brand. You know, congratulations,

1316
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 5: we're gonna sign you and bring you the Reds Country.

1317
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 5: And they called me in the office when I got

1318
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 5: there during Aaron was right there and it's like, Brandon,

1319
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 5: we want you to be the best place you could be.

1320
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 5: Do it your way, and I said, thank you very

1321
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 5: much for this opportunity. I appreciate it, thank you for

1322
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 5: letting me be me. And the restless history, and I

1323
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 5: just put the city of Cincinnati on my back end

1324
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 5: and the fans loved it, and I became that dude,

1325
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,839
Speaker 5: mister Cincinnati called him, mister Smile, call me whatever, Nicknam

1326
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 5: and a half of me, you know what I'm saying.

1327
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 5: Then we ended up having that dude and the Sigma Show.

1328
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,640
Speaker 5: We did everything epic. That's how we do it over here, Baybay.

1329
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:52,719
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.

1330
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 6: So Wayne Krisky just calls you out of the clear

1331
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 6: blue and says, hey, we want you here in Cincinnati.

1332
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1333
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it was that man right there. I

1334
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 5: thank him that he changed my whole life, my career,

1335
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 5: not just my career, but my whole life, because you know,

1336
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 5: I wouldn't know what I would have been doing right

1337
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 5: now if it wasn't for him. You know, I don't

1338
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 5: know what I would have been doing. And I thank

1339
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 5: him for giving me the opportunity.

1340
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 4: It was.

1341
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 5: It was all Wayne, Wayne, Wayne. I was Wayne's guy,

1342
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 5: you know. So you got to think about the guys

1343
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 5: that Wayne brought over. He brought me and Bronson, Ryan

1344
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 5: Brussell came over. There were the two guys. Yeah, and

1345
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 5: we was there for a long period of time, and

1346
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 5: we wrote, we rode that time together. We did that

1347
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 5: thing and and it was a it was a great

1348
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 5: time to be alive.

1349
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 2: Let me just read some of this stuff.

1350
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 6: Three time National League gol Star, four time Gold Glove winner,

1351
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 6: a Silver Slugger winner, a three time winner of the

1352
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 6: Ernie Lobardi Award is Reds MVP, and they're one of

1353
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 6: three Reds in history, along with the number forty four

1354
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 6: Eric Davis, Number eleven Barry Larkin. Thirty home runs and

1355
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 6: thirty stolen bases in the same season. You did it all, man,

1356
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 6: You did it all, and you played for, like you said,

1357
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 6: for the fans, and you played your best each and

1358
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 6: every day.

1359
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 5: Well hearing all that, man, I mean, I mean, it's

1360
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 5: pretty impressive. It's pretty cool.

1361
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 4: I never really heard.

1362
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 5: It like that, you know, to be honest, I mean,

1363
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 5: I just played the game the best way I knew how, man,

1364
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 5: I thought. I thought baseball was born as hell. So

1365
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 5: I had to do something made me enjoy it. So

1366
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 5: I started letting balls, returned my legs behind my back,

1367
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 5: hitting home runs, pimping them. But now the game is

1368
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 5: totally different. Like I mean, if I played in this generation, oh, Lord,

1369
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 5: you never know what kind of dad do it would

1370
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 5: have been. It would have been crazy. But back then,

1371
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 5: I mean, my teammates made me successful, you know, and

1372
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 5: the coaches that I had, I'm right, managers, coaches and managers,

1373
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 5: they did that. Jerry Naron, you know, Dustin Baker, right,

1374
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 5: Pete mccannon. You got to think about those guys, man,

1375
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 5: I mean, they really elevated my game and they made

1376
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 5: me take off.

1377
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 6: Tell me about that two thousand and seven season, as

1378
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 6: I said, thirty home runs, thirty stolen bases, and only

1379
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 6: three Reds have done it. I mean, that really puts

1380
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 6: you on the map, didn't it?

1381
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 4: It really did, you know?

1382
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 5: And I, like I said, I was hit between Griffy

1383
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 5: and Done, so I had a lot of pressure on

1384
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 5: me and then. But the thing is though it made

1385
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 5: me step my game up. It made me realize my

1386
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 5: work and what I can really do by by doing that.

1387
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 5: And all I can do is just be the best

1388
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 5: version of me. And I took advantage of the situation,

1389
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 5: and I thought I was going to keep on just

1390
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 5: putting up numbers and doing and things like that. And

1391
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 5: then the next following year I ended up breaking my

1392
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 5: finger and I mean I started like a lot of

1393
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 5: injuries started coming to my hands and to my wrist,

1394
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 5: and so I've never been like ever since that had happened.

1395
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 5: I was never the same after that. But I figured

1396
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 5: out ways how to do it and find out way

1397
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 5: to be successful, you know, so to really go out

1398
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 5: there day in and day out to be successful with

1399
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 5: the team and also for the fans. And I never

1400
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 5: made excuses. I went out there and try to find

1401
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 5: a way to get it done. And that's how I

1402
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 5: was raised as a person. Even though you're not one

1403
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 5: hundred percent, but you know what, you can go out there,

1404
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 5: find a way still get it done and still be successful.

1405
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 5: And I did that.

1406
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 6: Tell me a little bit about how and uh, you're

1407
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 6: your WWE superstar wife got together. I mean, uh, I'm

1408
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 6: kind of surprised you haven't entered the squared circle and uh,

1409
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 6: you know fought the Gunther or brock Lesser or you know,

1410
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 6: maybe John Cena. I mean I was looking for that

1411
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 6: dude BP to be out there running around and doing

1412
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 6: the you know, doing the sleeper holding all that stuff.

1413
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 6: How did you and your wife get together?

1414
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 5: Uh? We we met to a family friend, you know,

1415
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 5: and my my gut. My family friend metor at a

1416
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 5: event and you know, he told me all about it,

1417
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 5: and that's how we end up talking. You know, she

1418
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 5: saw the last year, maybe the last two years, and sistant.

1419
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 4: She saw it a little bit. Yeah, you know what

1420
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 4: I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

1421
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 5: Be cause we was friends, we was friends, she saw

1422
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 5: a little bit of it. So she didn't know how

1423
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 5: the city assistantatic really loved me, you know what I'm saying.

1424
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 4: She didn't see the.

1425
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 5: Grit, the love, the passion that the fans poured into me.

1426
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: But that's how we met. And yeah, she's that's my queen.

1427
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 5: She's killing a gang. She's a tampion right now. We

1428
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 5: talked about us doing the US doing something wrestling for

1429
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 5: me to getting the ring of where we talk about it.

1430
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 5: But I'm like, hey, this.

1431
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 4: Is your time.

1432
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 5: We supported you supported me in my career. So I

1433
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 5: want to make sure that she gets well she needs

1434
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 5: out of it. But she needs me to go body

1435
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 5: playing somebody.

1436
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 4: I'm ready.

1437
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 5: I'm ready to just you know, body playing D D T.

1438
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 5: I'm ready, r KOs, I'm ready to do all that.

1439
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I already gotta give me too.

1440
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 5: I'm more with some baseball paths. I'm gonna be slide

1441
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 5: in there home runs, making it rain on people.

1442
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: There we go, here we go. Well, I got it.

1443
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 6: I got to end this now because we uh we

1444
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 6: we had a great time in the doug out. I

1445
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 6: mean that, that dude BP show will never be forgotten.

1446
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 4: It was.

1447
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 2: It was.

1448
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 6: It was quite an honor to talk to you on

1449
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 6: a daily basis and get guests on every so often,

1450
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,440
Speaker 6: but just to have you to talk to uh was

1451
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 6: was remarkable. I mean it was we we had a

1452
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 6: thing going on, and we did We did our thing,

1453
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 6: and I think everybody, everybody enjoyed it because it showed

1454
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 6: another side of you that other than just playing second

1455
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 6: base and playing baseball. It shows what what Brandon Phillips

1456
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 6: was all about.

1457
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 5: And I appreciate you for giving me the opportunity.

1458
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 4: Man.

1459
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 5: I mean, people can listen to our show stuck in traffic,

1460
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 5: you know, about to come to the game. They hear

1461
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 5: what we had to say and how it was going

1462
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 5: to go. That was a good time to be alive.

1463
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 5: Like I said, man, you know, I even told Jay

1464
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 5: she didn't know nothing about this guy. I told the

1465
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 5: other day, I said.

1466
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: What baby, Oh boy, oh boy, I bet you that

1467
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: one over big did it?

1468
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 5: No, she loved it. Okay, okay, because you know I'm

1469
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 5: gonna say she had the batty section in w W E.

1470
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 5: So she has the own stuff like that. Okay, you

1471
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 5: took that from me.

1472
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 4: I did it first. I did it first.

1473
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: She's got you got the Debbie, she's got the dudes.

1474
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,719
Speaker 4: No, no, she got the batties.

1475
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 5: Oh I got the Debbie got Yeah, you got good

1476
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,879
Speaker 5: looking women. That's competent. That's what you call him, batties.

1477
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 5: But me, Miles was little Debbie cakes with little of

1478
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 5: the Debbie.

1479
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 9: You know.

1480
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 6: Brandon, once again, congratulations man, you're the best. And we'll

1481
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 6: see in April. But quite an honor and you're there

1482
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 6: going to be a Red's Hall of Famer. I appreciate

1483
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 6: your time as always, my man.

1484
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 5: I appreciate you man. Thanks for having me, man, I'll

1485
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 5: see you soon.

1486
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: How about those two back together again from the dugouts

1487
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: to uh the uh conversation tonight. That was awesome. Thanks

1488
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 2: to seg for getting that done and passing it along.

1489
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 2: And how about the big time praise Brandon Phillips had

1490
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: for Wayne Krivsky and uh Wayne Crisky and Jerry Naaron

1491
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: allowing him to be himself a winn. He came here.

1492
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,839
Speaker 2: When we come back, The Reds have reportedly signed a reliever,

1493
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 2: not official by the team, but background on him and

1494
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 2: an assessment of the Reds bullpen. This edition of it

1495
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 2: compared to last year's edition of it. That is ahead

1496
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: as we continue with RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by

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01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:24,560
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1498
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1499
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,679
Speaker 2: love your involvement during the show and outside the show

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Speaker 2: as well. I've also got a Facebook page if that's

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01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,799
Speaker 2: your thing. No, they're all on the Facebook page. Lance Pacalister,

1502
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 2: Sports Talk jump in. We're talking now about the Reds

1503
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,879
Speaker 2: and the bullpen news. The Reds have not made this official.

1504
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's like a physical today or tomorrow,

1505
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 2: the announcement tomorrow and then he joins Red's Hot Stowe

1506
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: League show tomorrow night. Maybe. Reports are the Reds have

1507
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 2: reached an agreement with right handed relief pitcher Pierce Johnson.

1508
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: He turned thirty five in May, pitched for the Braves

1509
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 2: last season and sixty five appearances out of the pen.

1510
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: His earned run average three zero five not bad, fifty

1511
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: nine strikeouts fifty nine innings. Big curveball guy through his

1512
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: curveball seventy two percent of the time. And if you're wondering,

1513
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 2: he was much better than league average, ERA plus is

1514
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 2: a way of telling you how much better or worse

1515
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: than league average a pitcher was. His ERA plus was

1516
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 2: one thirty seven, meaning he pitched better. He pitched thirty

1517
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 2: seven percent better than your average pitcher in Major League

1518
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 2: Baseball last season. A strikeout rate better than average, a

1519
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 2: walk rate lower than leg average, fly ball rates a

1520
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 2: little bit higher than I think you would initially like.

1521
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 2: He's more of a six to seventh, seventh eighth inning guy,

1522
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: not a closer type. He does have sixteen saves in

1523
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: his career, but last season, pitching in the sixth inning,

1524
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 2: his earned run average was one fifty nine. When he

1525
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: pitched in the seventh, it was two thirty five. When

1526
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 2: he pitched in the eighth, his ERA was two fourteen.

1527
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 2: When he pitched in the ninth, it was over ten.

1528
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: So he got knocked around in the ninth inning for

1529
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: whatever reason. Last season the year before. He appeared in

1530
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: fifty eight games with an earned run average of about

1531
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 2: three to six zero career three hundred and thirty appearances,

1532
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 2: twelve postseason appearances over four different postseasons. Pretty good postseason pitcher.

1533
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: One and a half earned run average in twelve innings

1534
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: of playoff work. He was originally a twelve twenty and

1535
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: twelve twenty twelve first round pick of the Cubs. He

1536
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: went number forty three. I think it was in that round.

1537
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 2: He was like a compensatory pick of that first round,

1538
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 2: think like eight picks later. The Reds took Jesse Winker

1539
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: that year, but went to the Cubs in twenty twelve. So,

1540
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: having said all that, this is what the Reds have

1541
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: done with their bullpen this offseason. They have added Caleb Ferguson.

1542
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 2: They have added Pierce JOHNSONLB reports the deal for Pierce

1543
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Johnson is one year, six and a half million. They've

1544
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: lost Scott Barlow, lost, Brent Suitor, lost Nick Martinez, re

1545
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 2: signed Emilio Pagan. So would you feel better, worse, or

1546
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 2: the same about this bullpen compared to last year's bullpen?

1547
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 2: I would cautiously opt, be cautiously optimistic and saying I

1548
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,800
Speaker 2: think this bullpen can be better than last season. I'm

1549
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: a little bit worried if they didn't get the best

1550
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 2: out of Emilio Pagan and there's no way he replicates that,

1551
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: but we'll see. I'm a little bit worried about the

1552
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 2: workload of Tony Santion. Eighty appearances is a lot of

1553
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: work and relievers performances are so volatile from one year

1554
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: to the next, and when you're young and through that

1555
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 2: many innings, that many appearances, I'm always curious how you're

1556
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 2: going to respond armwise the next year. But Caleb ferguson

1557
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: the lefty, I like him, Pierce Johnson, the new guy,

1558
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: Graham Ashcraft. I think counter Phillips is an important part

1559
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 2: of this bullpen in terms of does he was what

1560
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: we saw last season like legit? And is there is

1561
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,600
Speaker 2: there a next level to get to or does he

1562
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: regress this season You've got But he's still young, so

1563
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get better, I hope, And if

1564
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 2: he does, look out because he's nasty. Sam Mall and

1565
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: an open spot. If you figure there's eight bullpen spots,

1566
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:34,520
Speaker 2: that's about seven that appear to be taken. Pegan Santition, Ferguson, Johnson, Ashcraft, Phillips,

1567
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: and Mal with one more and maybe that one more

1568
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 2: comes from Zach Maxwell or Luis may yos Verzulueta, Brandon Williamson,

1569
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Richardson, they invited to spring training Josh Stammont. I

1570
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: believe it's pronounced so that grouping maybe fills the last spot.

1571
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 2: I find it hurt to believe they're going to spend

1572
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 2: more money on another reliever, as much as they've spent

1573
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 2: on relievers this offseason. But if it's Beegone, Santion, Ferguson, Johnson, Ashcraft, Phillips, Maul,

1574
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: and one from that group, I mentioned that shapes up

1575
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: this is a pretty good bullpen, does it not? That

1576
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: bullpen last year an innings pitched was twenty fifth in baseball.

1577
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Now Terry went to the penalot Terry went to the

1578
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: pen five hundred and fifty times last year. That was

1579
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 2: the sixth most in all of baseball. I think if

1580
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: you could squeeze another couple outs or one more inning

1581
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 2: out of your starting rotation on average, probably a lot

1582
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: to ask in this day and age, but if you

1583
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: could think of how much that easier it makes on

1584
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 2: your bullpen. When it's all said and done, some more

1585
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: Reds ahead. Plus does anybody recall Do you recall the

1586
01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 2: famous recipe Classic? Stumbled into this last week in an

1587
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: email I got. I love emails with stuff I didn't

1588
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 2: know anything about, and I knew nothing about the famous

1589
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 2: recipe Classic, And the more I looked at it, the

1590
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: more fascinated I became. That and more. As we continue

1591
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: with Darnel Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven

1592
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 2: hundred WLW, It'll be available on the podcast a little

1593
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,639
Speaker 2: bit later on if you missed Travis Steele talking Miami

1594
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: RedHawks seventeen and zero, one of five unbeatens in the country.

1595
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: Kyle Smith, the pride of La Salle High School, newest

1596
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,799
Speaker 2: member of FC Cincinnati. All of that and more, including

1597
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: the entire show eventually seven hundred WLW dot com and

1598
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: through the iHeartRadio app. Shout out to Andrew Lovens, who

1599
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 2: passed along something to me last week I had no

1600
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 2: working knowledge of. I'm fascinated by it. I loved the

1601
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: deeper I got into it, the more I was intrigued

1602
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 2: by it, And he sent me a Northern Kentucky high

1603
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: school basketball Facebook post I think it was from David Hartman,

1604
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: and last week was the anniversary. He was forty eight.

1605
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: Three years ago this past week that the largest in

1606
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: season basketball tournament in Kentucky tipped off, the famous Recipe Classic.

1607
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: Now this when it started, I was in high school,

1608
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 2: so I wasn't here. I had moved and by the

1609
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: time I came back in ninety seven, it was wrapping up,

1610
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 2: so I didn't get a chance to experience this. But

1611
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 2: it was a sixteen team tournament in Northern Kentucky. The

1612
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 2: top eight Northern Kentucky high school boys basketball teams squared

1613
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 2: off with the best eight teams available around the state

1614
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 2: of Kentucky. And the Classic idea started with a gentleman

1615
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 2: named Tom Cummins who was the owner of famous recipes

1616
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 2: Fried Chicken in the Northern Kentucky area, and he had

1617
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 2: a brain trust of three men. Ed Pendry, editor and

1618
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 2: publisher of Kentucky Sports newspaper, Dale McMillan, the legend sports

1619
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 2: director whkk here WLW voice in the Bearcats at one time,

1620
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 2: and Mel Webster, a coach and an official. It was

1621
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 2: kind of the publicity director of the event. And this

1622
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 2: tournament began as a four day elimination tournament across northern

1623
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 2: Kentucky that would grow to four sites and pool play,

1624
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: and it kicked off at homes I think in Lloyd

1625
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 2: High School, and at the start the tournament was centered

1626
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: around the boys side. They later expanded to the girls side.

1627
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: But the more I read about this, the more cool

1628
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: it sounded. The fact that the team headquarters was the

1629
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Holiday Inn South and Fort Mitchell, featuring the Holidame, and

1630
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 2: there was a team reception at January the fifth. Each

1631
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: visiting team in the tournament was guaranteed thirteen hundred and

1632
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:35,440
Speaker 2: twenty five dollars and a share of the visiting profits.

1633
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 2: Each local team in the tournament got twelve hundred dollars

1634
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 2: and twenty five percent of the profits went to local schools.

1635
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,799
Speaker 2: The players got a tournament newspaper and a t shirt

1636
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 2: for participating in it. There was a big push to

1637
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 2: convince the local leaders to build a basketball arena, a

1638
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: minimum six thousand seed arena as part of all this.

1639
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 2: I think Holmes High School was the largest gym at

1640
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 2: the time if I remember reading correctly. The tournament provided

1641
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 2: hotel accommodations, There was money up front of the schools.

1642
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: There was a media guy that was over sixty pages

1643
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,960
Speaker 2: that was sold for one dollar in nineteen ninety two.

1644
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: At one time the field one year, the coaches in

1645
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 2: the field had over forty eight hundred combined career wins.

1646
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 2: I was looking at matchups one year, and don't hold

1647
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,759
Speaker 2: me to what year this was, but it was Tates

1648
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: Creek versus Scott High School coached by Jeff Mitchell led

1649
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 2: by was it Jeff Knof a Campbellsville voice versus Lloyd

1650
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: who had Greg Kunkel and j Stencil Grant County took

1651
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 2: on Highlands coached by Ken Shields, the legend my guy

1652
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: went on to coach at NKU. Kenny Shields team had

1653
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: Jeff Kramer and Willie Schlarman Willi Schlarman. The year I

1654
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: was looking at was averaging twenty two a game. East

1655
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: Carter took on Newcath who was ten and zero. Newkath

1656
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,799
Speaker 2: was the smallest team in the tournament three hundred and forty,

1657
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 2: led by Tom Freppin and was it Jimmy Pagnala Pagnola

1658
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 2: Paducah Tillman took on Connor In a player named Tony Hilton.

1659
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Newport had Madison Central as the matchup. Knox County Central

1660
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 2: took on Covcath with Brian Clemens and Todd Shulty and

1661
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: Owensborough against Holmes one year. But I cannot thank Andrew

1662
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 2: enough for passing this along. I talked with Skinny Richard

1663
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 2: Skinner about this yesterday and Tom Gamble about this. I

1664
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 2: knew nothing about it, but I loved the idea that

1665
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 2: I'd love to see something like that come back. That

1666
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: must have been cool back in. I think it ran

1667
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty three to like nineteen ninety seven. Let's

1668
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 2: grab some reds that I got to get to some

1669
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: NFL conversation as well in Tennessee. Jeff, Welcome to seven

1670
01:31:54,880 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Thanks to McCall. I got it. A couple

1671
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 2: of questions, Doc Tasky Bud. Yeah.

1672
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 5: Number one that uh Mark Hate from.

1673
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: Colorado, Yes, signed into a to a minor league contract

1674
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: first baseman formerly the.

1675
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 14: Rockies, Okay, and then uh Garrett uh.

1676
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 2: Hanson, Yes, minor league contract. He was here for a

1677
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 2: brief time last season.

1678
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 4: Nice. Yeah. And my last question, yeah, are.

1679
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 2: They done well financially? They're close to being done if

1680
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna stick with last year? Was the last year's payroll?

1681
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 2: Is going to be very close to this year's payroll. Uh,

1682
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 2: they might have a little tiny bit of wiggle room,

1683
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 2: but I would think anything that happens now is gonna

1684
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 2: come from money freed up in a trade. Beyond that,

1685
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of room to make any deals. Well,

1686
01:32:53,720 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 2: they they they've got seven five five with the Rands

1687
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 2: last year.

1688
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 12: Is that correct?

1689
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 4: No? Six?

1690
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 14: Maya Pegan, he's the only one to thank signed free

1691
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 14: agent that was our with them last year.

1692
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 2: The others are hasn't been with the Reds right, correct? Yes, yep, okay,

1693
01:33:15,120 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 2: but I appreciate you taking a call of Fank. You

1694
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 2: got to. I appreciate you checking in. You have the

1695
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 2: first baseman they signed to the Rockies, Mike taglia to

1696
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 2: og l i a is a switch hitter. He is.

1697
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: I think he's twenty seven years old. Hit twenty five

1698
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 2: bombs two years ago, hit eleven last year. Has never

1699
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 2: been a big batting average guy. I think lifetime two

1700
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 2: oh one. But in reality, he's depth in the minor leagues.

1701
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: He's not gonna be. The only way he becomes a

1702
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 2: part of the major league roster is if something has

1703
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 2: gone dramatically wrong on the major league side of things.

1704
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 2: The same thing with Garrett Hampson. It's all about depth

1705
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 2: in the minor leagues. And having said, if something goes haywire,

1706
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 2: you need something at Triple A Louisville, and he would

1707
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 2: be something at Triple A Louisville. I watched, we watched

1708
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 2: the five NFL playoff games. I watched four and a

1709
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,000
Speaker 2: half of them turned off at halftime last night. Do

1710
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 2: you know this was the first time in NFL history

1711
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 2: there were four games decided by four points or fewer

1712
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 2: in a single round of the NFL postseason. First time

1713
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:28,759
Speaker 2: in NFL history four games decided by four points or fewer.

1714
01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 2: Bears beat the Packers by four. I have no idea

1715
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: still how the Bears won that game. What a game.

1716
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 2: Rams beat the Panthers by three, The Bills beat the

1717
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 2: Jaguars by three. Josh Allen is the single, maybe the

1718
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: single toughest dude in the NFL. Got the crap beat

1719
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 2: out of him. Do you know, Josh Allen? I think

1720
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: this is right. I think this is his eighth year.

1721
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 2: Josh Allen has not missed a game since his rookie

1722
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 2: season due to injury. That was Let's see one, two, three, four, five, six,

1723
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: seven eight. He has not missed a game since his

1724
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: rookie season, and I think that was a tendon issue

1725
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: or soreness with his elbow. He just takes a beating

1726
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 2: and keeps on playing. And the forty nine ers, oh,

1727
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 2: Kelly was freaking out. Forty nine ers somehow, I don't know,

1728
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 2: beat the Eagles by four for all the for all

1729
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 2: the injuries the Bengals had this season, to losing Joe

1730
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 2: Burrow for what nine games they went won in eight

1731
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,080
Speaker 2: nine games and losing Trey Hendrickson, do you realize what

1732
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers did this year with Kyle Shanahan

1733
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 2: as their coach. They win, they advance. Now they've lost

1734
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 2: George Kittle for the season with the torn achilles, but

1735
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 2: Brock Perdy played nine games this season for the Niners.

1736
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 2: They went twelve and five. They lost Fred Warner, they

1737
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 2: lost Nick Bosa, George Kittle, Ricky Pearsall, Brandon Aiyuk, they

1738
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 2: lost their fifth string linebacker, they lost their sixth string linebacker,

1739
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: and the Niners are still playing after going twelve and

1740
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 2: five in the regular season. Unbelievable. But the game on

1741
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: the Saturday Packers Bears game, Bears trailed twenty one to

1742
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 2: six in the fourth quarter and scored twenty five to

1743
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 2: beat Green Bay thirty one twenty seven. And I gotta

1744
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 2: tell you, every time I watch Caleb Williams, I feel

1745
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 2: the same way. That guy will make an incredible throw,

1746
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 2: and then he makes a throw, you say, what in

1747
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 2: the world was that? And it played out on Saturday night.

1748
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: He was dynamic, and he completed half his passes. He

1749
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 2: threw it forty eight times and he only completed twenty four.

1750
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 2: But we're in a day and age where quarterbacks are

1751
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: pushing seventy percent if they're good. He completed fifty percent

1752
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 2: of his passes and it was almost exactly. Half of

1753
01:36:52,640 --> 01:36:55,640
Speaker 2: them were incredible and half of them are like, what

1754
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 2: was that?

1755
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 7: Man?

1756
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 2: He made a throw I can't even begin to describe.

1757
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter with the game on the line,

1758
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,640
Speaker 2: it was incredible. Three hundred and sixty one yards, two touchdowns,

1759
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 2: they advance and the other thing that jumped out for

1760
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: the weekend. And I know we're talking about an analytically

1761
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 2: driven world of sports in this day and age. In

1762
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 2: the five playoff games, NFL coaches went for it on

1763
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 2: fourth down twenty six times. They punted thirty two times.

1764
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 2: They went for it twenty six times and converted half

1765
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 2: of those thirteen of twenty six, and it seemed like

1766
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 2: everyone was a big one either. All that blew up

1767
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: and I would give you, I would give you early

1768
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: on it blew up in the Bear's face and Ben Johnson,

1769
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: but they were able to overcome it. But it is

1770
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: crazy how often teams go for it on fourth down

1771
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 2: this year. And I will say, oh, one other note

1772
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 2: I saw today on the playoffs. One I'm thinking about it.

1773
01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 2: And this was a courtesy of John Breech, son of

1774
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 2: the legend Jim Brade. John writes for CBS Sports, this

1775
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: is hard to figure out. Sean McVay and the Rams

1776
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 2: will play the Bears this week. Sean McVay, this will

1777
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 2: be his fifteenth playoff game. He has played faced fifteen

1778
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 2: different teams. How is that even possible? No duplicates in

1779
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: fifteen playoff appearances He's faced fifteen. That sounds impossible. In fact,

1780
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,599
Speaker 2: I didn't know John Breach was such a fantastic writer.

1781
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 2: He said, well, that can't be right, but it is

1782
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,320
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like it could be possible. I do have

1783
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 2: a broadcasting note that I will tread lightly on because

1784
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 2: he's a legend and he's a Hall of Famer, and

1785
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: I don't say this lightly, but to me, it is

1786
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 2: striking how lacking Al Michaels has become on calls of

1787
01:38:54,320 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 2: games for Amazon. I mean, his diminishing awareness and sharpness

1788
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 2: and even visual understanding of what's happening on too many

1789
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:19,799
Speaker 2: occasions is difficult. Kirk Kurbstreet is really good at cleaning

1790
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 2: up and finishing off too many of his calls now,

1791
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 2: it just really and I haven't watched every game that

1792
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 2: Al's done this year, but that Saturday night it was

1793
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 2: striking just where he is right now from a game

1794
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 2: calling standpoint, at what I think he's eighty now. Man,

1795
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 2: I think Tom Brady is getting better and better. I

1796
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:56,440
Speaker 2: think Tony Romo is slipping and slipping. I think Tony

1797
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 2: Romo sounds like too often he shows up to the

1798
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 2: game just to have fun, and really he has done

1799
01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 2: no background or prep on the game, which I don't understand.

1800
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,599
Speaker 2: And I'm not so sure. Well, I think I am

1801
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 2: kind of sure. I think Greg Olsen's better than both

1802
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:11,639
Speaker 2: of them. He's much better than Romo, and I think

1803
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen's better than Tom Brady. But Tom Brady's getting better.

1804
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: I enjoy listening to him on games. All right, I'm

1805
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:19,880
Speaker 2: gonna run out of time I gotta do on this date.

1806
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 2: Final segment is next RNL Carrier Sports Doc presented by

1807
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 2: Kelsey Sherblay seven hundred WLW The Stretch, final segment of

1808
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: the night. We do it with an on this date

1809
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 2: in Red Or sports history, and I've got a couple

1810
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 2: of things that happened to be related to the Reds

1811
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,599
Speaker 2: on this list. So here we go. Nineteen thirty two,

1812
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 2: Red's legend Ed Roush announces his retirement. He hit three

1813
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:45,799
Speaker 2: twenty three over nearly two thousand major league games. Elected

1814
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 2: to the Baseball Hall of Fame in nineteen sixty two,

1815
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 2: won two batting titles, never struck out more than twenty

1816
01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: five times in a season. Holy cow, there's guys who

1817
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 2: track out twenty five times in a week, it seems.

1818
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,640
Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty nine, the Red celebrated the centennial and

1819
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Raush was voted the greatest player in the team's history

1820
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 2: at that point. Nineteen forty three. On this date, the

1821
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 2: Reds and Out Spring training will take place in Bloomington, Indiana,

1822
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: at Indiana University for the duration of World War Two,

1823
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 2: teams had been ordered by the Commissioner Landis Kennesaw mount

1824
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 2: Landis to save travel expenses, So the Reds trained in

1825
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: Bloomington for three spring trainings, and due to the weather,

1826
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 2: conducted many of their workouts inside of Indiana Fieldhouse. How

1827
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 2: about that for a note? Nineteen fifty one. On this date,

1828
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 2: Ezard Charles knocks out Lee Omen in the tenth rout

1829
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden in New York to retain the

1830
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 2: heavyweight title. Nineteen sixty nine. History Joe Willie Namath guarantees

1831
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 2: of victory before the game against the seventeen point favorite Colts,

1832
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 2: then leads the AFL and the Jets to its first

1833
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl victory sixteen to seven in the Guarantee Game.

1834
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy two. A Red's Note. The Reds select man

1835
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: he junior college pitcher Tom Hume in the secondary phase

1836
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: of the Winner Amateur Draft. Hume would say ninety two

1837
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: games over eleven seasons. He was an All Star in

1838
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 2: eighty two, and I believe he is the only Red

1839
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 2: to save a game. In the All Star Game nineteen

1840
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 2: eighty one, the Reds become the last team in Major

1841
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,599
Speaker 2: League Baseball to sign a free agent. They inc Cubs

1842
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 2: outfielder Larry Bittner. Free agency had started five years earlier

1843
01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy six. The Reds did not sign their

1844
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 2: first free agent until nineteen eighty one. Bitner hit two

1845
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 2: eighty six over one hundred and thirty nine games in

1846
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 2: two seasons for the Reds nineteen eighty eight. On this date,

1847
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 2: Jimmy the Greek Snyder of CBS NFL today out fired

1848
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 2: for his racially insensitive comments during an interview the previous

1849
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:56,719
Speaker 2: day with a TV station in Washington. And this couple

1850
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: more to wrap it up. Twenty fifteen, Ezekiel Elliott Russia

1851
01:43:00,120 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 2: for two one hundred and forty six yards and four touchdowns.

1852
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 2: The Buckeyes win the National title, running over Oregon forty

1853
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 2: two to twenty. And on this date, twenty seventeen, the

1854
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Chargers announce a move from San Diego to Los Angeles.

1855
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 2: Speaking of National title games, cannot wait one week from

1856
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 2: tonight Indiana versus Miami. By the way, I listened to

1857
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 2: our guy Luke Brenneman and the broadcast of his crew

1858
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 2: on the way home Friday night out of Bloomington. They

1859
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 2: do the games for Indiana University Radio. They were stellar,

1860
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 2: good job, captured the moment, painted the picture, really enjoyed

1861
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 2: it on the way home, and cannot wait one week

1862
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 2: from tonight to see the Indiana Hoosiers. What I performance

1863
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 2: on Friday night to take out Oregon unbelievable. All right,

1864
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,599
Speaker 2: So tomorrow night I follow Red's Hot Stove at eight,

1865
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 2: So we're on seven to nine. I'm working on a

1866
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 2: project and I don't know if I can convince myself

1867
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 2: of it, but I'm trying to get creative, and I'm

1868
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how the Reds can get a bat.

1869
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,840
Speaker 2: They still don't have a bat, and yet their payroll

1870
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 2: is if we're if we're to believe what they're saying,

1871
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 2: it's close to bumping up right against their limit. But

1872
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 2: a couple of things to ponder. Do you realize the

1873
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: Reds are going to spend this year just over thirteen

1874
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: million dollars on three catchers. They're going to go to

1875
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 2: arbitration with Tyler Stevenson and he's gonna make a round

1876
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done, around six and a

1877
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 2: half million. They're paying Jose Travino five and a half million,

1878
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 2: and they're paying Ben Rourtvett, who they claimed on waivers

1879
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,559
Speaker 2: from the Dodgers a million two. Now he doesn't have

1880
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,280
Speaker 2: any options, so they can't send him back to the miners.

1881
01:44:57,560 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 2: So that's just over thirteen million on three catchers. Could

1882
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 2: you envision a scenario where they would trade Tyler Stevenson.

1883
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 2: Clearly there's something going on that they couldn't reach an

1884
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 2: agreement and they're going to arbitration over two hundred and

1885
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,320
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. Nobody does that, but the Reds and

1886
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 2: Tyler Stevenson are and he's entering the final year of

1887
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 2: his contract. What would you be able to do with

1888
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 2: six and a half million if you traded him? In

1889
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 2: terms of putting it towards a bat, would you be

1890
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: willing to live with an offense of Jose Travino and

1891
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 2: Ben Rourtvett who's a catch first catcher and can't hit.

1892
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Then you're down to little offense behind the plate and

1893
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 2: a little offense at third. Could I convince you to

1894
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 2: be okay and believe that Chase Burns in rhet Ladder

1895
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 2: combined could cover Brady Singer and the Reds trade Brady

1896
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 2: Singer's twelve million dollar if you put together Singer and Stevenson.

1897
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 2: That's eighteen and a half million. You could put towards

1898
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 2: a bat, either in trade or in free agency, but

1899
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:19,719
Speaker 2: you'd have to depend on Louder and Burns to cover Singer,

1900
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: who was the most reliable starter on the staff, and

1901
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 2: you'd have to live with no offense behind the plate

1902
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 2: and at third. But you'd add a bat in theory,

1903
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 2: either for first base or left field. I don't know

1904
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 2: if I can convince myself of that, but I've been

1905
01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 2: toying with that and I think I'll be ready to

1906
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 2: present it tomorrow night. Let's hang out tomorrow night at

1907
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 2: the Red Hot Stove. Thanks to Rus Jackson for producing,

1908
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 2: Thanks to you for listening, Stick around the News, and

1909
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 2: then it's the Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker. This has

1910
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 2: been Arnel Carrier Sportstock presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred

1911
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 2: WLW