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Speaker 2: I didn't evening.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being a part of our

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Speaker 3: ongoing special election night coverage, Mary Kafi, I'm Chris Merrill,

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Speaker 3: Michael Monks in the padded room as well. Before we

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Speaker 3: went to news there, I made the recommendation to stay

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Speaker 3: Senator Tony Strickland, I said, would you support a national

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Speaker 3: redistricting that is similar to to California's well now former

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Speaker 3: redistricting non b a nonpartisan redistricting panel or bipartisan redistricting panel,

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Speaker 3: And he said, I mean, he jumped on it. I

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Speaker 3: think there was the fastest I've ever had a politician

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Speaker 3: you know it's not gonna happen, and there's there's good

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Speaker 3: and bad reason for it. The first reason is that

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Speaker 3: elections are left up to the states, and that's very clear.

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Speaker 3: The Constitution basically says it's up to the states, which

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Speaker 3: is why when Donald Trump was accusing California of doing

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Speaker 3: something unconstitutional.

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Speaker 4: Earlier today, President Trump posted on truth Social that California's

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Speaker 4: redistricting vote is unconstitutional and a giant scam. He also

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Speaker 4: signaled that mail in ballots are under legal and criminal review.

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Speaker 4: On X, Governor Gavin Newsom responded and called the post

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Speaker 4: quote the ramblings of an old man that knows he's

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Speaker 4: about to lose.

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Speaker 3: Certainly not unconstitutional, and I don't know what his justification

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Speaker 3: say California is screwing you over America, and they're bypassing

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Speaker 3: the constitution. It's not We're allowed to make our own

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Speaker 3: election decisions. That's why we came up with the Redistricting

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Speaker 3: Council in the first place. Otherwise we would have been

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Speaker 3: operating outside the bounds of the Constitution for the first

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So, first, we're not gonna have a national redistricting commission because.

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Speaker 2: Everything's left up to the states.

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Speaker 3: The other is, you could bypass that by passing a

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Speaker 2: That won't have because.

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Speaker 3: The politicians are involved, and the politicians certainly are not

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Speaker 3: going to do anything unless it's in their own best interest,

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Speaker 3: not in the best interest of the American people, or

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Speaker 3: at the will necessarily of the American people. And I

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Speaker 3: don't see America shifting back toward more moderate and centrist

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Speaker 3: the jerrymandering going on, which rewards more partisanship. Michaelmongst, your

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Speaker 3: thoughts on my brilliant assessment, Well, I think, like I

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Speaker 3: ending jerrymandering to get I don't think there's ever a

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Speaker 3: scenario where you will draw districts that get one hundred

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Speaker 3: maps look reasonable. We might not like who gets elected there,

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Speaker 3: but that makes sense why that map was drawn the

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Speaker 3: way it was. But you're right, constitutionally, a national redistricting

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Speaker 3: commission just doesn't work legally, but every state should probably

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Speaker 3: consider having a sensible redistricting mechanism. You look at some districts,

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Speaker 3: whether it's Democrat controlled or Republican controlled, they do this.

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Speaker 3: They just do this, and it's not just for their

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Speaker 3: They are absurdly drawn, and they are drawn solely to

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Speaker 3: I think every time it wins. Is there an end

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Speaker 2: Is that an end around that's plausible.

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering if this raise to the bottom that we're

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Speaker 3: Hello Illinois, Hello New York, Hello Maryland, these other Democratic

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Speaker 3: now with this movement in order to make Hakeem Jeffrey

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Speaker 3: what California has just done, because Republican states are lining up.

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Speaker 3: Ohio has just released its new maps that were not

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Speaker 3: couple of Republican seats ideally for them for what they've drawn. Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Nebraska,

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Speaker 3: they're all looking at redrawing their districts in favor of Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Democrats are in Colorado, Illinois, Maryland, New York, and Virginia.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is almost like a cold civil war.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, but Michael I'm a bit of

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Speaker 3: a pessimist and a preface everything I'm saying with that,

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Speaker 3: I don't think Americans care. I think that we care.

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Speaker 3: We're in the news media, we care. I think that

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Speaker 3: that wonks care. But I think if two things working

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Speaker 2: The economy is what drives people.

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Speaker 3: And the other thing, too is if I'm in if

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Speaker 3: I'm a legislator in Texas, I'm not going to allow

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Speaker 3: be flawed. It's the it's the sportsification of politics that

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Speaker 3: The way the average person is now part of a

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Speaker 2: That's what motivated this.

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Speaker 3: You heard the governor say, unprecedented turnout in a special

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Speaker 3: certainly not at the stakes, right. I mean, there's one

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Speaker 2: Boy.

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Speaker 3: We talk about messaging, We've talked about messaging a few

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Speaker 3: for instance, California is being unconstitutional in it.

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Speaker 2: There were certainly some messages that missed the mark.

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Speaker 3: You'll find out what those are as we continue with

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Speaker 3: our KFI special election night coverage.

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Speaker 2: He's Michael Monks.

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Speaker 3: I'm Chris Merril's KIM six forty live everywhere in the

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. Hey there, I'm Chris Meryl. He's Michael Monks.

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Speaker 3: KFI special election Night coverage. Prop fifty passes pretty handily.

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Speaker 3: Democrats win in Virginia, in New Jersey, and no surprise,

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Speaker 3: they win in New York City. The surprise, I think,

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Speaker 3: is that we have someone who is a self avowed

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Speaker 2: That is a It's.

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Speaker 3: A term that really hasn't maybe in certain pockets has

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Speaker 3: the survey here of late that socialism the word itself,

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Speaker 3: probably some agreement too across the Aisle Michael. We had

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Speaker 3: That's where the division comes, right, That's right, and Democratic

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Speaker 3: Socialists certainly have some power in Los Angeles. They've got

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Speaker 3: I bet here in LA where we have a mayor's

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Speaker 3: where's our mom, Donnie? Because that's not Mayor Bass, and

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Speaker 2: Our mom, Donnie?

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Speaker 3: In Los Angeles when really you already have some policies

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Speaker 3: And boomers who may say we don't like socialism at

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Speaker 3: they're collecting neticare and social security and those sorts of things.

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Speaker 3: So regardless of what you call it, that's what it is.

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Speaker 3: It is we have a capitalist and socialist economy in America,

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Speaker 3: and we have for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: That is an interesting point.

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Speaker 3: That you make, and one I guess we can let

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Speaker 2: Be anything else.

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Speaker 3: I think we did have a conversation about messaging when

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Speaker 3: That's why Texas looks at redistricting, and then of course

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Speaker 5: When Donald Trump and Texas Republicans don't fight fair, Californians

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Speaker 5: While they steal congressional seats, rig the next election, and

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Speaker 6: I'm getting Trump and Carey breaking news out of California tonight.

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Speaker 6: The results are in and voters have just passed Crop fifty.

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Speaker 3: So this had similar messaging to what Governor Newsom did

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Speaker 3: It's interesting that Gavin Newsom, It's almost like you have

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Speaker 3: Little more of your feedback too, from our talkbacks, your

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Speaker 3: including yours. It is our continuing coverage KFI special election

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Speaker 3: night coverage. He's Michael Monks, I'm Chris Merril. It's KFI

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Speaker 3: Good evening KFI special election night coverage with Monks and Merrill.

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Speaker 3: He's Michael Monks, I'm Chris Merril. Thank you so much

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Speaker 2: Michael.

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Speaker 3: A number of listeners did have thoughts, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: Hey you too. Hey, excellent show tonight. You hear that

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Speaker 7: You know what, man, this is fine fish out here.

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Speaker 7: You're getting ready to go home from the airport. I

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Speaker 7: A'm born and raised in La Man, but California is

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Speaker 7: just off the hook. Yeah, and Gavin Newsom is head corruption.

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Speaker 3: All right, Newsome corrupt California off the hook. You know,

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Speaker 2: Off the chain used to be great. But evidently off

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Speaker 3: Off the I think it goes either way. It's it's

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Speaker 2: Oh all right, very good.

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Speaker 8: Hey, this is Jason from Santa Fe Springs.

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Speaker 8: Sad that we have a lot of veterans who have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that goes to your point, Michael, about

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Speaker 2: With at some point? I hope.

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Speaker 3: I think there are a few of us who hope

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All right.

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Speaker 9: If this proposition fifty is costing two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: How many propositions would ever get past if we build

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or at least the you know, the attorney's fees

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if it were like, oh, we'd like

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Speaker 3: What about like the Gavin Newsom recalls? Exactly do you

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Speaker 3: christ and Michael's great job tonight you hear that?

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Speaker 2: I heard? I know.

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Speaker 10: There wasn't much to talk about. It was an ass

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Speaker 10: But you keep leaving me at one thing in your

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Speaker 3: Failing failing somehow we're doing a great job but also failing.

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Speaker 3: The bar is low, and I'm happy to exceed it.

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Speaker 2: The dichotomy of man, I think, indeed it.

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Speaker 11: Is heyris Michael Monks. Okay, well, look, I haven't heard

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Speaker 3: Gracias fernandosahe yes, And in fact, Fernando's not alone because

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Speaker 3: I guess look for Newsome and California to double down

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Speaker 3: I think what you're going to see that's more important

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