1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: You picked Utah, I did? You just told T Yeah, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: I think I had I had Nova in that one. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that I had Nova gol Be on 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: that one, but I had Nova in that one. Which 5 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: although after I saw the halftime interview with the Nova 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: head coach, I was like, all right, I just they lose. 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 8 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I did not throw his coaching staff under the bus 9 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: said he was gonna fire him. Nah, yeah, I did. 10 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: Serious. 11 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Well, I'll help the clip. I've got the clip. I'll 12 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: help the clip here, you know a little bit. Let 13 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: me tell us going to Kaway Comms with hotline know 14 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: and bring on our guy, James Palmer. James, how you doing, buddy? 15 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: Well, I don't like this Villanova Wildcat slander. As a 16 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: man who grew up down the street from Villanova University, 17 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: I don't really care for it, but I don't care how. 18 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't care for how they're playing either. But I'm 19 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: with coach on on halftime. By the way, right, how 20 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 2: have you not seen this? This is the biggest thing 21 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: out there. I'm firing not now, oh yeah, right now, 22 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: they're done. I'm a new staff. 23 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah a halftime you just dropping the right I was like, okay, 24 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: this is this is they say halftime interviews are worthless. 25 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, that's not anymore. Gotta love it. 26 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: James Broncos to have had an interesting off season, retaining 27 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: basically the entire team. They finally make the outside move, 28 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: they make the trade, they go get Jalen Waddle. As 29 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: we look at this thing, you know, it looks like 30 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: a run back, but we needed one more piece, a 31 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: piece they could have had at the trade deadline last 32 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: year often not to What do we think of what 33 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: the Broncos have done this offseason? 34 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: Well, I think that honestly, a couple of things that 35 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: jump out of me of this on all the shows 36 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: that I had on the bleacher Report and the Athletic 37 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 2: and everything. I was saying for a really long time, 38 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: this is not a good free agency class, like top 39 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: the bottom, it's not an outstanding free agency class. And 40 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: everything I kept peering around the league was teams that 41 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: know what they're doing are going to trade for players. 42 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: Trades are going to be very popular during this free 43 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: agency period because it's just the way that a lot 44 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: of these teams viewed the landscape, and Denver was really 45 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: kind of no different. And so what I view of 46 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: what they've done is we were a playmaking piece away, 47 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: specifically on offense, to get this team to take a 48 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: major jump. And they knew this for some time. I 49 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: heard you say, you know at the deadline. Yeah, they 50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: had those conversations at the deadline with Miami. I remember 51 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: being on going there's some people in the league and 52 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: never may make a splash. That was waddle and it 53 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: ended up not happening. But they've known this entire time 54 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: that they needed a legit playmaker and that is what 55 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 2: they went out and got. And I think what they 56 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: did in doing so was where you were picking. I 57 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: don't think you get any sort of certainty now. I 58 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: think this is a good wide receiver class, right, me 59 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: and Steve Smith break it down our show a ton 60 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: with all of these guys. I think it's a really 61 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 2: deep wide receiver class. Do you have the certainty of 62 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: getting that playmaker and the backhead into a round one? 63 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: I don't think you do. I think the fourth round 64 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: swap when we get into it was really valuable to 65 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: Denver and I know that they think that, but I 66 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: think what they felt is we had a really really 67 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: good team last year. We really did and we're not 68 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: going to reach an overpay and free agency, and George 69 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: Payton kind of hinted that to me at the combine, 70 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: that we're not going to be overly aggressive in free 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: agency and some of the numbers over the last couple 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: of years. You know, people want your team to be 73 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: aggressive and then you get upset when the contract's bad 74 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: in a couple of years. That happens all the time, 75 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 2: and the Denver kind of avoided it. 76 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think we're talking with James palmrick cost 77 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: to scoop city over there. 78 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 2: At the Athletic. 79 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the thing. It's interesting to 80 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: watch how the fan base was sort of melting down 81 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: with this word aggressive because you know, the owner, Pennar 82 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: had come out and talked about being aggressive and Peyton didn't. 83 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: That's not what he said. George Peyton said, will be 84 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: aggressive in our process, and I think people kind of 85 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: glombed onto that thought there was going to be some 86 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: sort of spending spree in free agency. I think you're right. 87 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: They did it smart, bring your guys back, They kept 88 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: the cost controls in the future down. You got a 89 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: Bonex extension coming up. I think George Payton's one of 90 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the best general managers in football, but this fan base 91 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: was ready to run him out on a rail just 92 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: a week ago. 93 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think there are multiple teams. 94 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: I think there's one in Miami and there's in Arizona 95 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: right now that have been studying what George did to 96 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: get this organization out of the dead money with Russell Wilson, 97 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: Like these teams are now going to have to do 98 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: with a you know what Denver did, and they're hoping 99 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: that they can you know, hit on a quarterback and 100 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: hit on some guys in middle rounds and fine starters 101 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: and do contracts early. And you know, I mentioned you 102 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: mentioned the boat, Nick Deeal. I think Pat's gonna probably 103 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: need to deal relatively soon. He's grossly underpaid now in 104 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: terms of where that quarterback market is gone. And I 105 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: think he's been really good in terms of how he 106 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: handles this this roster financially. And I think they're really 107 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: good in developing a strong middle class, and that is 108 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: really overlooked, in my opinion, with a lot of team 109 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: building in the NFL. There's a lot of teams that 110 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: are top heavy and then their middle class is just weak. 111 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: And that's how you win football games. Depth is how 112 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: you win football games, and players like Justin Ernad help 113 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: you win football games when Drag Greenlaw, the free agent 114 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 2: splash you wanted to make last year, can't stay on 115 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: the field. And so I do think George is one 116 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: of the better, more calculated general managers in football. I 117 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: do know that they had specific targets. Were they going 118 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: to be aggressive at the running back market, whether it's 119 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker or Travis how do you say his name? Now? 120 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: It's at chend now like him a Devon h Chan, 121 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: I can't ever tell, man. 122 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: I know now now it's like we're confusing two of them, 123 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 2: and like I never thought we'd be down this road, 124 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: but they were they aggressive towards them? I think so, 125 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: But I think, as you mentioned Ben, honestly, like they 126 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: were within reason, right, like we'll go after these guys, 127 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: but we had numbers in our head We're not going 128 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: to like Hollie Rosen was like that with the Jalen 129 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: Jan Phillips Steel Like I was this guy, but I'm 130 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: not going over this. And so that's the way a 131 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: lot of general managers work that I think are really 132 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: good at this and you sit there and go, why 133 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: aren't they making moves? And it's like, now they're making moves. 134 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: They're just knowing that there's going to be other teams 135 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: that are going to overpay in free agency, and they're 136 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: just they're just going to hold a hard line in 137 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: the same. 138 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Tyler James Palmer The Ghost of eighty nine with Steve Smith. Yeah, 139 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that's I think it's It was interesting last 140 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: week because as you see people melting down about this, oh, 141 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: we couldn't give up the extra three minute because the 142 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: price point for the Broncos was like ten million apy 143 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: and of course it got to twelve point seventy five. 144 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: And that's that's even with the added benefit of Travis 145 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: kind of want to go to New Orleans. But you 146 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: saw that, you saw sort of the the reaction that 147 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: we couldn't spend the extras we got the richest donors. 148 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can tell which one of you people 149 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: commenting on this have never been the household budget person. 150 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: My wife crushes at that. It's not me, So I'm 151 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: the one. Maybe I'm one of the ones that's like, 152 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: what do you mean another two millions? You know? The plus? 153 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: I should I should reclarify the Palmers are not dealing 154 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: in like another two million guys. 155 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: That was no, I was a James. You're covering dinner 156 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: next time, dude. 157 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: That's right, I mean, come on, But like it is true, 158 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: like there are certain certain numbers that you're willing to 159 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: go over and there's certain ones you're not. Like I 160 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: mean the tire linderbaumb one is obviously that blew the 161 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: doors off of you know, the Center Market and changed 162 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: kind of where things are headed there a little bit. 163 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: But you look at where the organization is. You have 164 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: to look at you are as a team. I remember 165 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: talking to John Spytech at the Combine and it was like, 166 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: we have to be very sober with where we're at. 167 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: We're several years away here, Like PLN Kubiak is not 168 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: walking into a roster that's anything like the one he 169 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: just left. Now. You overpay there because you are in 170 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: the start of a build and you want to make 171 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: sure it makes your high draft pick from a year 172 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: ago and ashing Gente better. You want to make sure 173 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: it makes your number one overall pick better. Maybe it's 174 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: a force multiplier, but like every team. The reason I 175 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: bring up the Raiders are in a different position as 176 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: an organization. They're in a completely different spot than say 177 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: where Denver is. I think fans should be sitting here 178 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: going we don't have a whole lot of holes on 179 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 2: our roster. We don't need to be overly aggressive in 180 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: free agency. But I always knew trades were going to 181 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: be the way that this was going to go down 182 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: in terms of some of the biggest moves and some 183 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 2: of the teams that we're going to be the smartest, 184 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: and I think Denver actually acted as such that I do. 185 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: James Palmer joining us at James Palmer TV on Twitter, 186 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. I don't know if it's disrespectful or not, 187 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: but it's certainly fascinating to look at the odds and 188 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: the sports books on the Broncos to win the AFC. 189 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: Depending on which book you look at, the either fifth 190 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: or seventh to win the AFC, even after the Wattle move. 191 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I sort of get it if you want 192 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: to put him third or fourth, but seventh, that seems 193 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: ludicrous to me. 194 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, seventh's a little rough. I completely agree with that. 195 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: But this is a team where I think there are 196 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: some people going okay them and new England took full advantage. 197 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: And again, you have to win all your games. This 198 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: is no slight to Mike Rabel or Sean Payton in 199 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: any sense. But I think there's a lot of people 200 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: around the league going and this was a buzz in 201 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: Indya a little bit was like, you know, these two 202 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: organizations took full advantage of what happened to the AFC 203 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: landscape in a Ravens team that fell apart, and Lamar 204 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: Jackson couldn't stay healthy and wasn't practicing any week and 205 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: then maybe he played on a Sunday. And obviously Pittsburgh 206 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: is getting just way older and Joe Burrow gets hurt 207 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: again and Ken Patrick Mahomes, you know, he goes down, 208 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: and it's a Chiefs team that is now all of 209 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: a sudden in a rebuild, and you have Justin Herbert 210 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: playing not without one like star tackle, without either star tackle, 211 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: and they're down to like their sixth and seventh tackles 212 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: in that building. And so I think there are some 213 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: people that do believe that both New England and Denver, 214 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 2: with the health that they had and the way that 215 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: they played latent games, any key situations. Again not taking 216 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: anything away from me, the organization. I think making plays 217 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: is a big part of winning football games in the NFL, 218 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: and Bo certainly does that in the fourth quarter. But 219 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: everything that I listed, it's like, well, think a lot 220 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: of things went right for those two organizations, when so 221 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: many things went wrong for a lot of organizations in 222 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: the AFC, And so does the ship kind of right itself. 223 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: Oftentimes what we do is we don't really put anybody 224 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: in that top three unless you have a superhero quarterback. 225 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't think Bow league wide is considered a part 226 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: of that group, right, guys, I don't. I think I'm 227 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: speaking out of turns that he's not perceived that way 228 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: across the NFL. And so I don't think you get 229 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: yourself into that top three unless you have one of 230 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: these superhero quarterbacks. You can have a great team. It's 231 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: just the way the league perceives these things. 232 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Talking with James Palmer, NFL insider and man whose hair 233 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: I spend hours being envious of every week, it's the 234 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: best quof in the business man. You know, I'm trying 235 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: to keep it real here you talking about superhero quarterbacks. 236 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City's got one, Pat Mahomes, but you know he 237 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: took that injury last year. There's not a real consensus 238 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: on what it is he's going to be back. He 239 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: keeps saying beginning of the season. A lot of other 240 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: people are saying, man, it's probably October before he's back. 241 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: How how detrimental to Kansas City is that if he's 242 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: not ready to go at the beginning of the season. 243 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think we do have to be 244 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: realistic with where it's at. I mean, the NCL part 245 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: of it definitely complicates his recovery. Now, he went down 246 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: to Dallas and had the best guy in the business 247 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: do it, then why wouldn't he But Yeah, my understanding 248 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: is that he has been attacking this like Gangbusters, Like 249 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: it's been insane what he's been trying to do, and 250 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: obviously he is going to push that organization to put 251 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: him out there week one. I think Brett Beach and 252 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: Andy rid are very realistic about where they are right 253 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: now in twenty twenty six, when you look at the 254 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Trent mcduffee move and you look at where they feel 255 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: like they are as a roster with Kansas City. I 256 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: don't know if a lot of people say this, and 257 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: I'll take your guys' opinion on too. I don't think 258 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: they have a whole lot of pass catchers on that 259 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: team that play the same way Pat plays. I'll just 260 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: say it like, I think they went and they tried 261 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: to capitalize on a lot of similar style players, whether 262 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: it's speed, whether it's elusiveness like Tyreek used to have. 263 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: But I was talking to an opensive coordinator like a 264 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: few weeks back about this and he was more or 265 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: less like Pat is a field quarterback. He is one 266 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: hundred percent a field player, and he might be the 267 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 2: best field player at the quarterback position we've ever seen. 268 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: The reasons he's so great with Travis is he plays 269 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: the same way he feels space. He's a field player. 270 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: Is rare? SHEI Rice Savior worthy like Hollywood Brown or 271 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: are they like I know he's gone now, but like 272 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: are those like field players? I don't see it. I 273 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: don't see a really great connection with the skill guys 274 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: and mahomes over the last couple of years, and I 275 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: think that has played a part in where this offense 276 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: honestly is gone. And that's why I think the Kenneth 277 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: Walker move is kind of like a correction move for 278 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: where they've been going, because they've been looking at one 279 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 2: style of player in terms of that skill group, like repeatedly, 280 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: and it's like, well, let's kind of pivot here a 281 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: little bit. And I'm interested to see with EP coming back, 282 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: how different that offense is, because I just don't know 283 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: if those guys really play the same style that Pat plays, 284 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: and I'm curious if they're kind of starting to see 285 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: that a little bit. 286 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: Hey, James Grant Smith here the only outside free agent 287 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: that the Broncos have signed former Cincinnati Bengal Tyson Anderson. 288 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 3: He's a safety by trade, but he makes his name 289 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: on special teams. Ben reported the other night he talked 290 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: to a Bengals coach and he was their highest graded 291 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: special teams player. 292 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: Is he the PJ. 293 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: Lock replacement in the secondary as well as on special teams? 294 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: And what do you think kind of the impact he 295 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 3: can make on this Broncos team this season. 296 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: I think we know, Grant honestly that the value that 297 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: this organization puts on special teams, like like it's it's 298 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: not equivalent across the board, and I think that's kind 299 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: of in that top group. And yeah, I think he's 300 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: he's a direct kind of I don't want to say 301 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: direct replacement as player for players always kind of odd, 302 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: but like, yeah, I think he's he's going to provide 303 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: you some depth. He's you're going to need playmakers on 304 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 2: on on special teams and like some of the boxes 305 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: that he checks from minerstanding like in terms of who 306 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: he is, what he's like, like it is kind of PJ. 307 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 2: Lock a little bit. It is kind of a guy 308 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: that that can, you know, really give you something in 309 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: different aspects of the you know, outside of being a 310 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: key contributor as a starter. And you're looking for those 311 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: type of players and you know, we got Christian Parker 312 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: down there, guys down in Dallas just naking guys he's 313 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: been with in the past where it's PJ. Lock or 314 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: Sean Garry and it's like er Lean and on the 315 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: former you know star secondary here in Denver to kind 316 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: of make some of these moves that's happening down there 317 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: in Dallas. And that's why you see PJ locked on, 318 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: That's why you see some of the moves Dallas has made. 319 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: And yeah, I think that's kind of like it's a 320 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 2: piece and it's kind of the way that George Peyton 321 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: was going to approach free agency, which is pieces like. 322 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: That, and I certainly think they've added the pieces in 323 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: Denver to make themselves contender for a team that was 324 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: already the number one seed in the AFC and in 325 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship. Maybe a broken ankle away from a 326 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. 327 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: Who knows. 328 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: But as we look at the the AFC, the layout 329 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: of the AFC this offseason, you mentioned the Mayvy Dolphins earlier, 330 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that has to be one of the strange. I mean, 331 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: it's obvious what they're doing. They're ripping the thing down 332 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: to the studs and starting over, but it has to 333 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: be to me, it feels like one of the more 334 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: strange processes out there. As you brought in a quarterback 335 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: in Malik Willis and then you said, okay, we're getting 336 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: rid of everything around him. If you were a Milike Willis, 337 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you're glad you got the payday, 338 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: but how happy would you be about the situation you 339 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: suddenly find yourself in. 340 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd look at it from both sides of the court. 341 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: Going by, I don't think you're going all right. Well, 342 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: at least, I'm going into a place that knows me 343 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: better than any other building outside of Green Bay, right 344 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: I mean, you could say Arizona, because I don't think 345 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: brothers lie to each other a whole lot. But you 346 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: have Jeff Hapley and you John Eric Sullivan who really 347 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: do understand you very well and understand not what you 348 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: do well, which I think they do, they really understand 349 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: what you don't do well. And I think that is 350 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: a really important in the league. Willis's case is that 351 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: you and you have a coach right now and a 352 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: head coach and a general manager that'sit there, and go, 353 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: we know he can't do X, Y and Z. Please 354 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: Bobby Slowick, do not put him in that situation at all, 355 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: because my defense was eating him up in practice. So 356 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: I think that's really valuable. That helps, And you have 357 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: a group that understands you really really well. My understanding 358 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: of the way it worked was they knew this was 359 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: a complete tear down, They knew they wanted well, they 360 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: got like eleven picks or whatever it is now like 361 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: it's it's an avalanche of picks in twenty six and 362 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: they were gonna really brought these two in because they 363 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: have lacked the ability to properly evaluate talent. And I 364 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: think John Eric Salvin and Jeff Athley evaluate talent really, 365 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: really well, and that's why they wanted to build this 366 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: through the draft or rebuild it through the draft and 367 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: kind of tear this thing down. But why you're doing that. 368 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: What you do have to do at the same time 369 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: is like sell your locker room that you're not like 370 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: completely tanking in the season, right, Like you have to 371 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: tell the rest of the fifty two guys that are 372 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: in there that number fifty three is walking in there. 373 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: Malik Willison, we made a move to contend to your guys. 374 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: We made a move to at least move the meter 375 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: in a positive manner. And I think that has to 376 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: be done when you're tearing things down to this point. 377 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: It's not an outrageous contract. It's one that can get 378 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: out of it. And if it hits, it's great, right, 379 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: Like that's the thing, Like, if it hits, it's outstanding. 380 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: But I do think you do have a job to 381 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: do as a new regime to at least sell something 382 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: to your players into your locker room or else. I'm 383 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: not sure how you fully walk into to spring ball 384 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: where things are headed in Miami. You don't provide thing 385 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: And that was Malik Lewis. 386 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's I think at such an underrated 387 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: great point that you made there, James. Knowing knowing who 388 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: you are is one thing, knowing who you're not is another, 389 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: and identifying how to work around that, that's such a 390 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: phenomenal point. Last one from me, Max Crosby situation. 391 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: We saw the. 392 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Probably the strangest trade not trade in the in the 393 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: off season here and now back with the Raiders. Can 394 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: they repair that relationship? Do you expect Max Crosby to 395 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: be a Raider this year? 396 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: I do, I really do. I think it is repairable 397 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: because of who Max is, And I think that's it 398 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: sounds funny to say, because we're all like, he's out 399 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: the door because of who Max is, right, Like, that's 400 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: what we're starting on, going. Well, he's a guy that 401 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: like you can't cross, and it's over. Once it's over, 402 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 2: it's over. I would say this. He has no issue 403 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 2: with John Spytech. He has obviously no issue with Clint Kubiak. 404 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 2: He just walked in the door after winning a Super Bowl, 405 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: So like the two men that he's going to interact 406 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: with the most. And then obviously his position coach becomes 407 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator. Like those people, he has no problem 408 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: with never had a problem. But I'm my understanding is 409 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: he has a really good relationship with John spot Tech, 410 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: and so his love of wanting to be a raider 411 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: and his love of, you know, benefiting off of a 412 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder. I'm not sure a player can 413 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: get a larger chip on their shoulder than being like, yeah, 414 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: one of the best players of football and this team 415 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: just returned me, Like, I don't see how else you 416 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: could think of that. In the way Max Max views 417 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: it and just knowing him a little bit the way 418 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: I do from our interactions, I think he's still going 419 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: to play the way he plays. John Spytech cannot take 420 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: pennies on the dollar even though teams are calling, like 421 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: he just can't write Like that's just weak as an organization. 422 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: And so this is something that to me seems like 423 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: the next time we might be talking about this and 424 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: again a trade could happen, somebody could go back up 425 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 2: to the two ones. I think it's hard to sell 426 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: your owner that, Like after a team gave up two 427 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 2: ones and said like, well, the medical doesn't work for us, 428 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: and then you're going to tell your owner we're going 429 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: to do the same thing. I might be a little 430 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: tough to sell, but I know there's plenty of buildings 431 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 2: that would pass him for a physical right now in 432 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 2: this league. This could be something we revisit at the deadline. 433 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: Say he's playing outstanding and the Raiders are not. Could 434 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: this be something that teams go, Okay, we just saw 435 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: him in the first part of the season, he's outstanding 436 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: still with the knee, We'll make a trade at the deadline. 437 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: I could see that being something that could possibly happen. 438 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: But like he's definitely walking back into a far better 439 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: team than the one he left, Like a really different 440 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: defense than the one that he just left. And so 441 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: you know, maybe this is something that you know, I 442 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: think will benefit Clint Kubiak if he's all in as 443 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: a first time head coach, getting a guy that's going 444 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: to be more or less the pied piper of your 445 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: entire room to help you build this culture as Max 446 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: has done that repeatedly, this could go well, Like it's weird, 447 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 2: Like I was talking to assistant GM the other day, 448 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: it was just like this could work out for the Raiders. 449 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 2: Like as strange as that sounds, like, this could possibly 450 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: work out again, We'll see, But right now. There's like 451 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: a little bit of positivity there in Vegas. 452 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: They might back to their way into something that works. 453 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: You never know. It's always the best when you do that, James, 454 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate it as always. You can find him co 455 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: host with Steve Smith on eighty nine over there at 456 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: the Athletic anywhere else they can find your stuff, James, I. 457 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: With Leacher Report, which is a really fun thing. We 458 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: do some live streams. Are you gonna ask me questions? 459 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: Every week? Which is actually actually something I've really grown 460 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: to like. The thing's been pretty fun. Two o'clock Eastern 461 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: into what noon mountain time on Tuesdays. Yeah, we do 462 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: a little live Q and A with Leacher Report. It 463 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: has been fun. All right, Well, there you go. 464 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I'll be sure to tune into that next week. And 465 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: obviously we appreciate having you on. You find him on Twitter. 466 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: I'll keep out with the handle that you'll have on that. 467 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be using a burner account for that. 468 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: Clearly obviously it's men. I know who it is. 469 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: You know exactly who it is. James Tuliver at James 470 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: Tallver TV on Twitter. Appreciate it time, brother, All right, 471 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: take care. We've got Parker. Gabriel the Ever posts will 472 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: come back next