WEBVTT - Jim Palmer (6-19-26) 

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<v Speaker 1>And now an exclusive interview with David Bassey for Dodger Talker.

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<v Speaker 2>When the Orioles are back at Dodgers Stadium, it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>not to remember nineteen sixty six in the World Series,

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<v Speaker 2>the Baltimore Orioles sweeping Sandy Cofax, Don Drysdale, Morey Will's

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<v Speaker 2>and the Dodgers, and a twenty year old right hander

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<v Speaker 2>that would eventually find himself in the Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 2>pitched a complete game shutout in Game two of the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series, outdueling his hero Sandy Cofax, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>the one and only Hall of Famer Jim Palmer. Jim,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks a lot for the time appreciating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're welcome. Well, let's get something straight. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>long time ago. That's what sixty two years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty, Sandy was thirty. I didn't now duel him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he threw I think twenty three of the

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<v Speaker 1>first twenty seven pitches for strikes. It was nothing, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>going into the fifth inning, and we had two routine

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<v Speaker 1>five walls to center field. And well, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>today it's bright, it was kind of you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how la can be a little bit. I was

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<v Speaker 1>slightly overcast, but Sonny and he just dropped him. And

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<v Speaker 1>then after the whole world because it was the World Series,

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<v Speaker 1>knew that he couldn't catch a fly ball, he picked

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<v Speaker 1>it up and threw in the dugout. So we ended

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<v Speaker 1>up winning six to nothing. And I tell people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, because you know, I grew up in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>I was you know, I was adopted. I was a

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<v Speaker 1>Yankee fan. But when I moved to California, obviously you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're a Dodger fan. I used to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Coliseum when I went to high school. I moved over

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<v Speaker 1>to Arizona and went to high school in Arizona, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers actually brought me over. They wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>go to SC for a year, and I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Rod Dato's backyard barbecue.

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<v Speaker 3>He was coaching at SC. They wanted me to go

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<v Speaker 3>there for a year.

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<v Speaker 1>They signed Jeff Torborg instead of me in nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 1>and as it turned out, I said, well, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>give me a contract.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, we can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I ended up signing with the Oils, and so

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<v Speaker 1>then we arrived at the World Series, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers, and you know, they beat the Twins at sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>Five, beat the Yankees in sixty three.

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<v Speaker 1>They were all about you know, basically Drysdale and Kofax.

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<v Speaker 1>And you also had Mari Willis who had stolen one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred bases. Tommy Davis, who would eventually play with US,

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the I mean, if you go back

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<v Speaker 1>and look before he broke his ankle, I mean what

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<v Speaker 1>he hit three forty and hit I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he could outrun everybody on the team except Willie Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>So but they didn't have a great, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>great offensive team. And but for us, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching Drysdale Cofex didn't pits the first game because of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jewish holidays, so Don started, and Brooks and Frank

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson hit home runs in the first inning, and I go,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, maybe we haven't actually have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to be competitive in this World Series. Dave McNally started

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<v Speaker 1>for US. He's I had won fifteen games that Mack

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<v Speaker 1>had won thirteen. But he was a couple of years older,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think they wanted more experience. Plus he was

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<v Speaker 1>left hand and had a great pickoff move. And the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they they they beat you by one run

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<v Speaker 1>because of Kovax Drysdale and their speed. So I ma

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<v Speaker 1>Jabowski came in in relief and struck out eleven Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>in six and two thirds innings. And I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at twenty I'm sitting there and I'm going all I

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<v Speaker 1>want to do tomorrow is not embarrassed myself because I

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<v Speaker 1>was pitching against Kofax. I mean, I knew how good

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy was, and I you know, I mean he turned

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<v Speaker 1>out it was his last year at age thirty because

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<v Speaker 1>of Elbro problems. He was like twenty seven and nine

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<v Speaker 1>with a one seventy some me or a with three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred innings and three hundred strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was Sandy Kofax.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just went out there and Willie Davis helped

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<v Speaker 1>me win. And I always tell people, I wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>have been late to try to beat Cofax nothing and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in the seventh inning because I had never pitched

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<v Speaker 1>a shutout in the major leagues before.

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<v Speaker 3>So again set to set the record straight.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kofax pitched very well. Sandy pitch gray and he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the you know, one of the one

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<v Speaker 1>of the one of the greatest pitchers ever. And I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people about hitting off them. And you know everybody

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<v Speaker 1>talks about tunneling now, where you throw pitches out of

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<v Speaker 1>the same tunnel, the same release point. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>deck and Andy Etchebarn thought about swinging at three high fastballs,

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<v Speaker 1>but he couldn't get the bat going, and I could

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<v Speaker 1>hit a little bit of one of my first game

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<v Speaker 1>in the big leagues with a home run off at

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<v Speaker 1>Jim out and then he throws me the first fastball

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<v Speaker 1>and it exploded. It was like fastball came up to home,

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<v Speaker 1>played in the lobby and ended up in the upper

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<v Speaker 1>mess as an aid. So I said, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I use Frank Robinson's our sixty one. So I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I better choke up a little bit. He threw me

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<v Speaker 1>to exactly the same pitch, except it was his curveball,

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<v Speaker 1>and it ended up in the lower basement. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going now I understand why Sandy Kofax is Sandy Kovax.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Palmer is our guest. And when you look out,

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's been some remodel to Dodger Stadium, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's essentially the same field when you look out from

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<v Speaker 2>your vantage point here in the Orioles broadcast booth. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you visualize those moments? Can you visualize twenty year old

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Palmer out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, but you know, Tradri Gibson is pitch

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<v Speaker 1>a young, you know, rookie pitcher, and you sitting behind

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<v Speaker 1>me on the bus coming out to what do we

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<v Speaker 1>call this now? Dodger I mean I call it Dodger

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium vs. Ravine, whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>To call it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, he took his headsets off. I said, Trey,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of might might as well do is what

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<v Speaker 1>I did when I was twenty, you know, puts your

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<v Speaker 1>first shutout, ever goes. This is only going to be

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<v Speaker 1>his fifth start in the big leagues, not as much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure because it's not a World Series. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he said, geez, it sounds like a good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Accept The difference now is he averages seventeen pitches per ending.

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<v Speaker 1>But just imagine he averaged fifteen. If you do the math,

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<v Speaker 1>nine times fifteen is what one hundred and thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't let pitchers throw one hundred and thirty five pitches.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know my first start that same year was

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<v Speaker 1>up in Fenway. I hit a home run, strike out, eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>walk seven. I only had two starts in spring training

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody got hurt, and I threw one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy seven pitches. And they asked our pitching coach, Harry

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<v Speaker 1>the Kaperkinaho was a great left handed pitcher for the Cardinals,

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<v Speaker 1>who was our pitchy coach in Baltimore, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, that's a lot of pitches. He said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to get that pitch count down into the

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<v Speaker 1>one forties. And that's what they allowed you to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So the game's evolved, you know obviously, as you know

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<v Speaker 1>you cover the Dodgers. You know now and after winning

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<v Speaker 1>two consecutive World Series, if you don't have a good bullpen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going into September and October in the postseason

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<v Speaker 1>and have a chance to win. So the game has evolved,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Since I have one of the greatest right handers of

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<v Speaker 2>all time with us, three times cy Young Award winner,

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<v Speaker 2>a man that's in the Hall of Fame. What about

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<v Speaker 2>Otani and what he's doing. I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from you what you think about what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's funny last year or two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when you know what, he stole fifty nine and hit

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<v Speaker 1>fifty four home runs. So only time that's ever happened,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have said he's a better hitter than a pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and last year he probably would have said the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. Now you're saying, boys, he's really good at

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<v Speaker 1>both of those things. You know, it was interesting when

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<v Speaker 1>he was with the Angels, Mike Soshi was managing and

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<v Speaker 1>I Sosia actually hit off me and we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>one day and he said, you know, he reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of you, and I said, well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of that's an ultimate compliment.

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<v Speaker 3>I said.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference is I didn't stand on the third base

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<v Speaker 1>side of the rubber, and that's where show he used

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<v Speaker 1>to stand. Now he's in the middle and you stand.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you had to understand the pitching rubber is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four inches homeplate seventeen inches, So if you're standing

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<v Speaker 1>on the right hand side of it, third base side,

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<v Speaker 1>you're already three four inches off the inside corner, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're throwing one hundred miles per hour and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hit the outside corner. You know what kind of stress

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<v Speaker 1>that puts on your arm made some more sense to

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<v Speaker 1>the to my ear, where you stand in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to go inside to a righty

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, a way to a left, he just

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<v Speaker 1>take your shoulder about an inch and you have a

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<v Speaker 1>direct line. So he's made that change. Of course, he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had a couple of elbow operations. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>a unit.

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<v Speaker 3>We all know. He's a unicorn.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the maybe the best player that ever

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<v Speaker 1>played that you know, from a dual standpoint, I hear

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<v Speaker 1>that Babe Ruth was really good. He had a long

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<v Speaker 1>time record for pitching in the shutout. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Joey and just to listen, it's guys like him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all the great players. It's you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie Freddie Freeman's of the world. Has just got his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred hit and it's hitting three thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>with runners and scoring position for his career, which is

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable number.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what baseball is about. I don't care if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a Dodger fan or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys now, because of interleague play, get to come

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<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore every other year or vice versa. You get

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<v Speaker 1>to see the greatest players in stadiums around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what keeps baseball alive. And when you get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like him, and I actually read I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>on an article yesterday about the Uttardo method, which is

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a kid, there was a teacher, I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe a teacher and junior high school in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>that said, you need to have a focus in He

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<v Speaker 1>gave them this plan of having sixty four things to

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<v Speaker 1>improve yourself and get.

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<v Speaker 3>Better and whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that Hutardo plan or a Rotto her h

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<v Speaker 1>A R A d A Plan worked pretty well for

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<v Speaker 1>Showy because and again he started when he was probably

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirteen years old, and we all started. I started

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, in Whittier. I played in the Golden

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<v Speaker 1>State League when I was ten, and then went to

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills and played Little League and Pony League, Babe

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<v Speaker 1>Ruth League out in Arizona and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So we all start.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like he had a pretty good plan

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<v Speaker 1>early and he's he's really been able to accomplish that

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's kind of all, you know, we all

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<v Speaker 1>can set goals, but how do we get to the goals?

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<v Speaker 3>We want to arrive at I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say, Jim Palmer, he had a pretty good plan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in the Hall of Fame, one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>right handers, a lifetime era under three Jim special to

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<v Speaker 2>be here, special to share you with Dodger fans that

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<v Speaker 2>remember the sixty six World Series, and obviously fans that

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<v Speaker 2>even didn't see it know how great you were. So

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for the time, really appreciating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and maybe they could give me a clue. As

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<v Speaker 3>Vinny used to always.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, late arriving, early departying, how do you get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the parking lot here?

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't have to worry about that, Jim, Well, not

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<v Speaker 3>back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a lot for the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're welcome. My pleasure.