1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: By the way, did I talk about this Ben quote yet? 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 2: Ben was asked, you know they were all there the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: Super Bowl, forty guys, what a great team, what a 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: great playoff run that year. They won like, like what 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: was it, four games at the end of the season 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: to just make the playoffs, then won all road playoff 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: games to get to the super Bowl. That's when Betts 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: fumbled and Ben made the tackle at Indy to keep 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Jerome Bettis from being remembered as Pittsburgh's Bill Buckner. And 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Ben said, you won't see a team like that again 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: because it's a different time now. It's not a different 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: time now. The team building is exactly the same. The 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 2: thing is, the Steelers don't know how to do it 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: no more because it's different people doing it that aren't 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: very good at it, and they don't got Ben Roethlisberger 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: no more. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: But it's not a different time. It's not impossible to 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: build a team like that anyway. 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: Uh, this is kind of off the wall. Oh, let's 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: take this call. Let's go to Joe. Joe, you're own 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: with double M. 22 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 23 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: Mark Friday, we talked a little bit about Ramsey. What 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 4: I'm here in this this rumor that he spoke gypsy 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: magic or something this week. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 5: Well what do you say? 27 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave a big raw Ross speech. Well, I 28 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: don't know what he said. I don't know if it's 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: raw Ros Rogers referred to it. He said it it 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: imbued the team with a different attitude, a lot more energy. 31 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: So hey, Jalen Ramsey's an accomplished veteran. He won a 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: Super Bowl with the l A. Rams and if he 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: can say something that has impact, I absolutely want him 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: to say it. 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a good game too. He's tough player. Man, 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 4: I've always I was. I was pumped. I just think 37 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: they need to move him into that slot though. 38 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: Man two, bro Ramsey at safety dug it right alongside him. 39 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: Those other guys are bums. Forget him, cut him, push 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: him down a flight of steps, don't give him a helmet. 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 2: Let's go to Denny. 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 5: Denny, you're owen Mark, Hey, Mark, listen, I agree with 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: you one hundred per Danny Smith or whatever his name is. Jesus, 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 5: the guy is a clown. I remember talking to my 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 5: friend as we watched and just saying, why is this 46 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: guy on TV so much? He just looks like a buffoon. 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Now I feel bad about 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: bashing the guy. I've rallied the ton against Danny Smith. No, 49 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: I don't feel that bad. Uh, Okay, we got time 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: for more calls. In the next segment, dial A three 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 2: three four one two w XDX, I'm gonna talk about 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: if we don't get calls, I'm going to tell you 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: what the best in studio show is for sports, and 54 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: I bet most of you have never seen it. 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: One five nine x y Yeah. 56 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 6: Park love the show. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: Well, if I won over Fundy betating Dusty Road to 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: make a dream, so be it. Baby c X at 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: one five. 60 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: A three, three four one two w XDX number to 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: call that game yesterday is amazing. I'm still I can't 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: believe it went how it did. I never saw them winning. 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: I never saw the defense picking its game up to 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: that degree. I think they were motivated to not be 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: embarrassed in front of the Super Bowl forty team. A 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: couple of the defensive guys got in that kind of 67 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: ring around the rosie they do for hype right before 68 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: the game with the Steelers starting defense, and I feel 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: like that defense just got tired of being told it sucked, 70 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 2: and for that matter, it was accurate criticism. 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: Maybe they just got tired of sucking. 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Every criticism that defense absorbed up till yesterday was totally justified. 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: It's only one game, but it was some game, and 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: it really gave them cushion they need going to LA. 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: If they had lost a third game in a row, 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: you're probably gonna go to LA and lose a fourth 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: game in a row. And then Baltimore's right up your backside. 78 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: And now they're at arms length. And that's what the 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: Steelers gonna do. They got to grind out winning the division. 80 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: They're not gonna win out. They're not gonna go fourteen 81 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: to three or anything close to that. They're gonna grind out. 82 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: And that win over Indy goes a long way. Let's 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: be honest. They may well lose at LA, and they 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: probably are gonna lose a game between now and seasons 85 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: end that they're not supposed to, because that's how it 86 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: always goes. 87 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: They say you can always count. 88 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: On a Tomlin team, Well that can be perverse too 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: in its truth, you can always count on a Tomlin 90 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: team to lose a game. 91 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: It shouldn't just like yesterday. 92 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I can't say yesterday was a game 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: they shouldn't have won because it was at home and 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 2: they were only three and a half point underdogs when 95 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: the game started, By the way, I was gonna bet 96 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: two dimes on Danny Dimes. 97 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: I forgot. 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't gonna bet two dimes, but I 99 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: was gonna bet like a couple hundred, maybe five hundred. 100 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: I just forgot to do it, and then the game started. 101 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: I don't like in game betting. I was talking about 102 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: that with Tim Ben's on his podcast. 103 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: It just I don't know. It just I don't know. 104 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't like I don't know why. It seems too addictive. 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: It is total NonStop action, as I heard it said, 106 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: but I don't like to do it. 107 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna get to this sooner or later today. 108 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: You know what's the best in studio show for sports, 109 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: like pregame, halftime, between periods, whatever. It's Premier League Mornings 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: on USA for English soccer. And I know you've never 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: watched it. You get tired of me talking about it, 112 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: but you know, just switch stations if you don't like it, 113 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: because I like to. 114 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: And Premier League Mornings has excellent analysis, all the highlights 116 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: and it doesn't stoop to the juvenile antics that appeal 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: to bro culture, trying to be funny, but not at 118 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: all funny. 119 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: It's just good sports TV. 120 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Not that good as even remotely a consideration now, let 121 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: alone a requirements. 122 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Like tonight, I saw advertising. 123 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: For that Manning Cast, the alternate Monday night football telecast 124 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: hosted by Peyton and Eli Manning. 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: Those two ain't funny. People say they're funny. 126 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: They are not in the least bit remotely funny, not 127 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: one bit effing funny. 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: They're dorks. 129 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: They're funny inscripted commercials in small doses. But Peyton and 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 2: Eli on that broadcast are dorks. Let's go to David 131 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: David Drown with the super genius Good Day Mark. 132 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: I said, good day. 133 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 7: Mark. The Colts game yesterday, it was a great win. 134 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 7: I agree with you. The Steelers needed that. But two 135 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 7: things about the Colts. When I saw that spread last 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 7: week it was only Colt's minus three, it made me 137 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 7: look at their schedule. You know, they've beaten a lot 138 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 7: of cream. 139 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: Puffs this year. 140 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 7: The schedule, their schedule doesn't look like most of the game. 141 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: They're still pretty good, pretty good, but you know they 142 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: got prop seven they're better than the Steelers. If they 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: played the Steelers in the best of seven, the Colts 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: would win the series. That was just a bad game 145 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: for them yesterday. 146 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 7: I agree. If it was in Indianapolis, I think for 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 7: sure they would win ten out of ten because I 148 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 7: think the field. You know, they play indoors. They don't 149 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 7: play outdoors at places like the Sandy Akroscher Field where 150 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 7: you slip around and you know, I think they had 151 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 7: a disadvantage there. 152 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: But you know, they beat up. 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 7: They beat the Titans spwice this year, they beat the Dolphins, 154 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 7: they beat the Cardinals. You know, a lot of weak teams. 155 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: And the Steelers lost. The Steelers lost to the Bengals. 156 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: What's your point, but Mark? 157 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 7: But Mark, you were surprised by that spread too, right? 158 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 7: It was only a minus three? 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I thought, no, no, no, again, You're 160 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: missing the point of a point spread. It's to get 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: equal action on each side of the line. The Steelers 162 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: are a brand name. Giving them a big a big 163 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: number of points would have driven the action too much 164 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: to their side. 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We could always rehash that Steeler win 241 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: again and again, which is fun to do, because they 242 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: did win. I still can't believe that game went that way. 243 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: I still can't believe it appeared to be just going 244 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: down the old Beamus before TJ walk got that strip sack. 245 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: I can believe the Steelers gott gained by over one 246 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: hundred yards but still won the game. I can't believe 247 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: they got six turnovers and nonetheless won by only seven. 248 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: I can't believe Tomlin and maybe Terra Austin too, got 249 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: a little inventive on defense with that four to three look, 250 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: with using three inside backers, with using three outside backers, 251 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: with using Ramsey at safety. Him and Dougla were a 252 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: good combination, and that would be my combination at safety 253 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: moving forward, period. 254 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: So the Steelers did a lot. 255 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: It's just the one game, but again, the amount of 256 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: cushion that gives them to keep Baltimore arm's length. That's 257 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 2: big to be able to bleed out. A division championship 258 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: that could be big. To be able to glind it 259 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: out and just keep this cushion your built. That could 260 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: be big. Winning the division, get a home game in 261 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: the playoffs, that could be big. Unless Buffalo and Kansas 262 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: City get wild cards. It's just where they're both headed 263 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: right now. If the Steelers played one of them, I mean, 264 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: what would you think of their chances against Forget Buffalo, 265 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: Buffalo would kill them anywhere. What if they played Kansas 266 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: City at Akroshore? And keep in mind, right now Kansas 267 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: City is not in the playoffs, but what if they 268 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: played Kansas City at Aftershore. Kansas City I think has 269 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: already worn out. Kansas City I predicted to not make 270 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: the playoffs. But there's the Mahomes factor, there's that playoff 271 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: experience factor. I would count them out at home against 272 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: Buffalo in a playoff game. I would not count them 273 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: out at home against Kansas City in a playoff game. 274 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: So again, big win, not a lot determined, but certainly 275 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: a step in the right direction, A big step for 276 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: the defense. 277 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Uh, we'll see where it goes from here. We'll see 278 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: how it goes to LA. 279 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: You want to make me a believer, Like I said earlier, 280 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: go to LA and beat the Chargers. Go to LA 281 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: and beat Justin Herbert and with all out their their 282 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: star tackle. I mean, after he got hurt yesterday, Herbert 283 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: was running for his life the rest of the game. 284 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: So things looking up for the Steelers. How much up, 285 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, but things look it up. Another interesting 286 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: note in football, we got the Jane Daniels thing, the 287 00:14:53,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: Washington quarterback where he got hurt after being left in 288 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: too long in a route they were on the losing side. 289 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Dislocated his elbow and he's out for a while now. Now, 290 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm of a dual mindset when it comes to the 291 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: criticism that's being rained down upon Washington for leaving Daniels 292 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: in too long. On one hand, NFL teams don't surrender, 293 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: They just don't. You pull starters if you're way ahead, 294 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: not way behind. 295 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: Is that right? Is it wrong? 296 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's what NFL teams do. On 297 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: the other hand, Daniels was coming off another injury. I'm 298 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: not surprised to see Washington Regress this year. In fact, 299 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: I predicted it before the season. They went a little 300 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: further than expected, perhaps too fast last year and getting 301 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: all the way to the NFC Championship game. 302 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Now it's back to Earth and then some a little wait. 303 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about that sixty eight yard field 304 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: the Jacksonville kicker kick yesterday. I chatted briefly with Matt 305 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: Williamson about it earlier this show. If it were up 306 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: to me, I'd take the goalposts off the field. I 307 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: don't want to see points scored form merely getting to midfield, 308 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: for merely getting to the fifty yard line. Now I'm 309 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: starting to ask Mark anything down eight three three four 310 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: one two ninety nine thirty nine. Conaw and ask Mark 311 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 2: anything eight three three four one two ninety nine thirty nine. 312 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 2: You can also leave a talk back via the microphone 313 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: icon at the iHeartMedia app COO can hold of Borky 314 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: so Josh always going to join us at the top 315 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: of the hour just after the list Uh. I went 316 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: to see Bachman Turner Overdrive last night. Randy Bachman the 317 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: lone hold over his son Tal Bachman, who had a 318 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: solo hit with She's So High a number of years ago. 319 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: He's in the band also on guitar. Tal Bachman's wife 320 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: is on drums and she's good. 321 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: And she was the girl in the tal Bachman video 322 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: for So High a number of years ago, like fifteen twenty, 323 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: So that's kind of neat. So it's Randy Bachman with 324 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: a bunch of guys presented as Bachman Turner Overdrive. No 325 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: Bachman Brothers, no CF Turner. It's good, though, It's really good. 326 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: Randy Bachman is a Canadian institution, just like the Blue 327 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 2: Jays blowing it and the Leaf's blowing it. 328 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: So that was good. And you know what I did 329 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: over the weekend one morning, I was sleeping in. 330 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: So I put on and listened to in its entirety. 331 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: That led Zeppelin LP in Through the Outdoor, which was 332 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: their final official studio recording aside from Coda, which was 333 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of outtakes after the band had broken up 334 00:17:55,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: after the untimely demise of drummer John Bonham, and Into 335 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 2: the out There gets all kinds of hate for being bad. 336 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: It's great. It's great. 337 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: If Inter the out There is supposed to be the 338 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 2: worst Zeppelin album, if it got released today, it would 339 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: be called the best rock album in the last twenty years, because. 340 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: That's how good led Zeppelin were. 341 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: It has in the Evening, which is an epic All 342 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: My Love, which is a bit small seed but very 343 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: kind of a simple, like like kind. 344 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Of majestic one of those Zeppelin songs. 345 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: It's about the death of Robert plants Young's son. And 346 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 2: then they did this experimental thing Karasalambra, which I hated 347 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 2: when I first listened to it, but ever since then 348 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: it's really grown on me, and I wish they had 349 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: gotten to play it live, which they I don't think 350 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: ever did. All right, Like I said, ask Mark anything, 351 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: that's up next Dial now eight three three four one 352 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: two WXDX. It's the Mark Madden Show on one oh 353 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: five nine. 354 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 11: Tonight's it's the Pens against the Maple Leafs. Same time 355 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 11: is seven thirty. Our coverage starts at six thirty. 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Mike Askmark anything. 382 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: Hey Mark? Uh? You know, compared to the previous generation 383 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: where you got guys like Coopaitar Taves Crosby taking less 384 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: money to help their team win, now you got guys 385 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: like Capitsov and his report on Paneren trying to take 386 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: as much money as they can. Is this about them 387 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: wanting the more most for themselves or is this about 388 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: them not really caring about winning? 389 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: I think I well, the guys you mentioned are both 390 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: Russian and correct. They don't they don't. They don't come 391 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: here to win. They come here to get as much 392 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: money as possible. And there are exceptions. I think malk 393 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: has been an exception, although we should keep in mind 394 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: at one point he asked for and got more than 395 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: Sidney Crosby makes when there hasn't been the sun come 396 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: up on a day when he's been a better player 397 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: than sid Actually, maybe a day here and there, like 398 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: when Gino won the MVP and when he won the 399 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: con Smite. But you get my drift. So, and I'm 400 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: not sure I blame guys for trying to maximize their earnings. 401 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: I admire sid for what he did. I don't hold 402 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: it against guys who don't. Does that make any sense 403 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: to see what I'm saying? And for all the amount 404 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: that sid has given the franchise to work with by 405 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: taking less, I'm not sure it's really paid off. 406 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 3: Are you well, three cups. Can't argue with it. 407 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not sure that that. 408 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: The money he gave back was needed to win the 409 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: three Cups because he won the one very early in 410 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 2: his career. I mean, I'm just kind of playing devil's 411 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: advocate here. I can't hate anyone who wants to make money. 412 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: And I got to tell you, if Paneren doesn't take 413 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: the most, you think the Rangers are going to suddenly 414 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 2: winsavaf you'd. 415 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: Left money on the table. 416 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: The guys were going to line up to go to 417 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: Minneapolis Saint Paul in the winners they have up there 418 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: to play hockey and try to win when they're not 419 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: close to winning as it is. 420 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel what you're saying, but you see 421 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 422 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. You know, people should be able to make 423 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: as much as they want, you know, and that they 424 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: they're willing to spend it and they're willing to pay them, 425 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 3: that they should take it. 426 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: And whatever decision people make, it's it's a thousand percent 427 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: up to them. Like, I don't think there's a right 428 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: or wrong here, although as you say, and I agree, 429 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: you know, Sid taking less to try to help the Penguins. 430 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: Win more is admirable. Thank you for the call. Lee's 431 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: line open eight three three, four thirty nine for as 432 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: mark anything. Yeah, Penguins lost at Winnipeg. I'm not too 433 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: bothered by that. I was a bit bothered by allowing 434 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 2: two goals in the first three minutes. Harrison Brunick having 435 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: a bad game of Now that bothered me. But again, 436 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: to repeat, I'd keep him, I'd let him work it 437 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: out up here. We've also been talking a great deal 438 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: about MLB in the aftermath of the World Series and 439 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: the battle for a salary cap that will commence when 440 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: the CBA expires on December one of twenty twenty six, 441 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: that's after next season. And we've looked at all the 442 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: angles like that Baseball is perfectly happy with how baseball is. 443 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 2: It's not broken like pirate fans like the wine. It's 444 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: the pirate's franchise that's broken. It's owners who don't try 445 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: enough to win that breaks their own franchise. And another 446 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: way looking at it is, let's say baseball does get 447 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: a salary cap, which will be a long, hard battle 448 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: and might cost baseball an entire season before the players capitulate, 449 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: and maybe even longer than that. I mean, when you 450 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: got Harper telling the commissioner to f off when he 451 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: comes to the locker room, because Harper just thinks he 452 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 2: might talk about the postapult of a salary cap that 453 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: indicates that the stars who make money more than the 454 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 2: rank and file of the MLBPA without a cap. But 455 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: there who counts their agents are who counts if they're 456 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 2: dug in, it's gonna be potentially a nuclear winner for baseball. 457 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 2: But do you think that if there's a cap the 458 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: pirates will suddenly jump up the table and contend for 459 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: a playoff spot consistently? They will not. They absolutely will not. 460 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: The poor owners like Nottingwell, the ones who postures poor, 461 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: the lower market size guys, they don't want a cap. 462 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: They don't they don't want to have to spend to 463 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: the floor. 464 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: So those of you who think a cap would cure 465 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: baseball in Pittsburgh, you couldn't be any more wrong. 466 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: You couldn't be any more stupid. 467 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: Okay, just around the corner, we're gonna talk to Josh 468 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: Shoey about the Penguins. 469 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: I'm Mark Madden here on one oh five ninety X. 470 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Now it's your chance to win one thousand dollars just 471 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: entered this nationwide keyword on our website. 472 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: Bills that all right? Joining me now to talk Penguins. 473 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: He covers the team for the Athletic He is live 474 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: from Toronto. He is Josh Joey Josh up. Tonight is 475 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: Harrison Brunick's ninth game. How important is this game for 476 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 2: him as far as them making the decision whether to 477 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: keep him or not to kick in that first year 478 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: of his NHL contract? And do you think the decision's 479 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 2: probably already been made. 480 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 12: I have to assume it's already been made, Mark, if 481 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 12: I were to guess, and he has really struggled his 482 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,479 Speaker 12: last three or four games. The interesting thing is, I 483 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 12: know there are people on the coaching staff who want 484 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 12: him to stay up anyway. They just think he's so talented. 485 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 12: They want to work with him. They're willing to let 486 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 12: him take his lumps. They just think it's better for 487 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 12: him if they can just work with him basically one 488 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 12: on one during the NHL team. And I don't know 489 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 12: that Kyle Dumas fields that way. I'm very curious to 490 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 12: find out, because he has really struggled, as I said, 491 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 12: the last few games. He's been a healthy scratch for 492 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 12: five times now. It makes me wonder if he's not 493 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 12: going to be sent down after this game? 494 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you do? Because I'd keep him. I 495 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: will let him work stuff up, work stuff out rather 496 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: up here. I think that the energy and enthusiasm and 497 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: the effect on the locker room those kids have is 498 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: just so important. I think the more of them that 499 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 2: are here, the bigger that impact is. 500 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 12: I would keep him too, And one specific reason I 501 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 12: would keep him. You hired Dan Mus because he specializes 502 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 12: in working with players that age and getting them ready 503 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 12: for the NHL being NHL players. For that reason alone, 504 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 12: I want him around Dan Muse. Is there anyone coaching 505 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 12: him in junior hockey who's better than Dan Mused? I 506 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 12: assume not. 507 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 3: Now. 508 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 12: I know Dan has other responsibilities as head coach of 509 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 12: an NHL team. Personally, I would keep him. I understand 510 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 12: if they don't. Why they wouldn't, I get it. He 511 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 12: he has not looked NHL ready the last few games. 512 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 12: But I think the more young players they have right 513 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 12: now the better. I firmly believe that, and I don't 514 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 12: think it's going to hurt them all that much. And 515 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 12: wins and losses like is Matt Dumba or Conner Clifton 516 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 12: really better than Harrison Brunick, even if Brunick goes to 517 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 12: a rough patch like I'm not so sure about that. 518 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: Actually I am sure he's better than them guys. 519 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 2: The other the other debate is who should play on 520 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: Sid's line with Raquel Hurt Because Philip Hallander he's been there. 521 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say he sucked, but he ain't it. 522 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: I see him as a middle six, which is not 523 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: which is to say not on the top line. 524 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 12: I agree. I'd love to see coy and then get 525 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 12: another look there. And I know he didn't look good 526 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 12: in the first two games there, and he frankly hasn't 527 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 12: looked great in the NHL this season. 528 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: But we know he has the. 529 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 12: Skill set to be a top six guy, at least 530 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 12: we think he does with the pair of hands that 531 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 12: he has the hockey IQ. I would love to see 532 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 12: him get another crack. Then they just have a limited 533 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 12: amount of options, Mark, I mean, the only other choice 534 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 12: that makes any sense is Ben Kendall. That he's been 535 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 12: so good at his natural position, and he's been so 536 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 12: good frankly defensively at center as well, that I wouldn't 537 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 12: move him from where he is right now. So I 538 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 12: think Coyman is the only other chance, and I would 539 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 12: give that a shot, whether they look good together or 540 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 12: not in nearly going. 541 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: How big. 542 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: Influence Sid has on the decision, I don't know. 543 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: I think it's considerable. 544 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anybody there he necessarily thinks is 545 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: a good fit with Raquel out. 546 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 12: Probably not, if I had to guess. He hasn't told 547 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 12: me that, but that would be my guess. You know, 548 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 12: I can tell you from the Mike Sullivan days, certainly 549 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 12: had a lot of influence, and he and Sally would 550 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 12: have a meeting once a week and talk about his 551 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 12: line and who was on his line. 552 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 4: And they didn't. 553 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 12: Always agree, that's for sure. And sometimes Sullivan would give 554 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 12: in and give him what he wanted, sometimes he wouldn't. 555 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 12: For instance, famously, Mike Sullivan loved Sidney Crosby on the 556 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 12: same line as Patrick horn Twist. Sid did not like 557 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 12: playing with Horny. He just didn't think he was fast enough. 558 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 12: It drove him nuts. Sullivan thought they were great together. 559 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 12: So I don't know what the relationship with the dynamic 560 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 12: is with Sid and Muse just yet, but I have 561 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 12: to assume SID has a good bit. 562 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 4: Of power right now. 563 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't bothered by the loss of Winnipeg, Josh, how 564 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: about you. I didn't like giving up two goals in 565 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: the first three minutes, but they were due for a 566 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: bit of a clanger. I thought they regrouped and played 567 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: okay after those first three minutes, and hopefully they start 568 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: out better tonight against Toronto. 569 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, I was fine with to pick a really good team. 570 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 12: The Penguins typically did not play very well there, and 571 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 12: I didn't feel like they were overmatched most of the game. 572 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 12: They just had a bad start and it happens. I mean, 573 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 12: that's that's the way it goes. Sometimes you're gonna live 574 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 12: with that. I think tonight, though, even though the Leafs 575 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 12: are in theory a good team, they're off to a 576 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 12: really bad start. If you can at least get a 577 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 12: point at it tonight, Mark, a one one in two 578 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 12: road trip would be pretty darn nice. The way things 579 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 12: are going for the Penguins right now, that this is 580 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 12: a tough stretch of schedule they're in, so you know, 581 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 12: the next couple of weeks are gonna tell us something 582 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 12: about this team. But even to get a point that 583 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 12: I would be fine. 584 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 2: We're talking to Josh Joey the athletic here on one 585 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: oh five ninety X. Josh, what do you make in Toronto? 586 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: So far, they're off to a six' five and one. 587 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: Start they're scoring lots of, goals BUT i think they're 588 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: weak in. NET i think they're week on, defense same 589 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: as it ever. Was AND i would love to see 590 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: The penguins pile onto That Blue jays. 591 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 12: Misery everybody's very much down in the dumps around, here 592 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 12: as you might, imagine so there will not be a 593 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 12: positive atmosphere in the building that have no. Doubt i'll 594 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 12: tell you. What i've watched the least a lot this. 595 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 12: Year Mark they're not. Fast if, anything they're they're below. 596 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 12: AVERAGE i think team speed, wise it's a real. Problem 597 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 12: AND i keep going back To Mitch. Marner people, can, 598 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 12: like you, know make fun Of marner all they want 599 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 12: for not being great in the. Playoffs you don't, just you, 600 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 12: know get rid of a guy who had one hundred 601 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 12: points every season and who was really good. Defensively you 602 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 12: don't just let someone like that walk and not replace 603 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,239 Speaker 12: them and think your team's gonna be. Better and on, 604 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 12: paper simply they're not so THEY'RE i just think they're 605 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 12: kind of average right, now and this might be a 606 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 12: good time for The penguins to catch. 607 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: THEM i think they might be kind of average. 608 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: Period and sometimes you don't know a guy's your best 609 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: player till he. LEAVES i Think marner Was toronto's best, 610 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 2: player just like and this is blasphemous With Nate dogg 611 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: And cole, mccarr BUT i Think ranton might have Been 612 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: colorado's best. 613 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 12: Player, WELL i won't go that far With, randon BUT 614 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 12: i know what you. MEAN i mean In colorado's, case 615 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 12: but they were the big, three right and you lose 616 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 12: one if you just don't replace, them it's a. Problem 617 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 12: and you, KNOW i look At. TORONTO i don't Think 618 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 12: matthews has been the same guy the last couple of 619 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 12: years for whatever. Reason AND i know that's probably not, 620 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 12: helping BECAUSE i, MEAN i still like their, core BUT 621 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 12: i JUST i don't. Know there's something about their their 622 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 12: roster that's just very ordinary to. Me now in The Eastern, 623 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 12: conference as bad as it, is you, know who knows 624 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 12: that you have an average, roster you probably feel like 625 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 12: you have a. Chance But i'm just there's something lacking 626 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 12: in their game right, now they're not as dynamic as 627 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 12: they have been the last couple of. Years i'm very 628 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 12: interested to see how this. Goes The penguins don't always 629 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 12: play well in this, building but they've got to be 630 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 12: feeling really good about. Themselves but that, said this road, 631 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 12: TRIP i got what three points in three, Games like 632 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 12: it's been an okay road. Trip BUT i think the 633 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 12: way we view this road trip will be very much 634 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 12: based on how they do. Tonight if they can get 635 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 12: at least a, POINT i think that's a job well, 636 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 12: done right in the middle of a really tough stretch of. Schedule, 637 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 12: marcus you Got washington, next The jersey IN la this, 638 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 12: weekend two teams that usually give them, fits so it's 639 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 12: not an easy week for. 640 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: THEM i wonder What toronto didn't go and get a, 641 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: goalie and the same As edmondon not going to get a. 642 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: Goalie but the answer is there's no goalies to. Get 643 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: it's such a bad period in THE nhl for. Goaltenders 644 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 2: AND i Give vegas credit, for you, know not not, 645 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: minding dealing with the crap storm and bringing In Carter 646 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: hart even though they have a goalie already that want 647 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: To Stanley cup And Ayden. 648 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 12: Hill, well it's, Funny, MARK i was thinking about this 649 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 12: the other, day like When sid broke into the league 650 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 12: twenty years, ago like that was the era of the, 651 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 12: goaltender like every team had a great, goaltender or if, 652 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 12: so it seems even in The penguins. Division you Had 653 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 12: flurry In, pittsburgh you Had lunquist In New, york you 654 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 12: Had marty Bro durr still close to his peak In New, 655 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 12: jersey like every team had a great. Goalie you look around, 656 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 12: now like how many great goalies are? There really five 657 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 12: or six, maybe and even those guys often Like hellabuck 658 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 12: might be a great, goalie but he's never gonna win 659 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 12: anything in the. Playoffs that's become pretty. Clear so, no 660 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 12: that that's exactly why they didn't go out and get a. 661 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 12: GOALIE i mean for years they've, been you, know getting 662 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 12: by with average. Goaltending they never really have that big 663 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 12: name goaltender and in the playoffs that has certainly burned 664 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 12: them at. Times but that, said they're not the only. 665 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 12: Team it's just Like. Edmonton it's it's very similar To, 666 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 12: edmonton and it's very similar to other teams that don't 667 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 12: have A basilevski or A. Bobraskia there's a reason those 668 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 12: those teams have The Stanley, cuppings and those goaltenders are 669 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 12: a huge part of. 670 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: It, Finally josh and in that, vein do you think 671 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: The penguins are gonna stick with the straight rotation and 672 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: goal Of shiloffs And? Jari what would it take For 673 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 2: muse to deviate from? That besides of, course. 674 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 12: INJURY i think he'll deviate at some. Point, Listen jari 675 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 12: has been really good his last couple of. Games sheilovs 676 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 12: was not particularly good Against. WINNIPEG i don't know if 677 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 12: that's enough for him to not get the start Against. 678 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 12: Washington BUT i actually feel Like jarry might have a 679 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 12: slight edge right. Now and they head to head, competition 680 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 12: they both sticking. Shootouts we already know, that But jarry 681 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 12: had one not so great start early in the. Season, otherwise, 682 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 12: however he has been lights. Out and for all, that 683 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 12: we have both been critical Of, jarry and rightfully so for. 684 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 12: Years he can be this guy in the regular. Season at, 685 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 12: times he's been Into All Star. Games he has the 686 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 12: history of getting, hot especially in the first half of the. 687 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 12: SEASON i wouldn't be shocked if they ride him for a. 688 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 12: While if he keeps playing like, this. 689 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: Here's my dream, Scenario Josh jarry plays well enough that 690 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: he gets interested to trade deadline the penguigere in a playoff. 691 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: Spot you Trade jarry for a guy who can, help however, 692 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: marginally and you bring up The bond villain From Wilkes Barry. 693 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 12: SCRANTON i, mean and, honestly WHAT i just said about 694 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 12: all the goal cutting stinking around the, league it's probably in. 695 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 12: Play if he keeps playing like, this that's absolutely best 696 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 12: case scenario for The. Penguins mark to. 697 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 2: Quote lockstock in Two smoking, Barrels, josh it would Be James. 698 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: Bond need to know, Time, josh great. Stuff enjoy the, 699 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: Game Enjoy. Toronto we'll talk later in a, week all. 700 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: RIGHT i see You. 701 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 12: Thursday, mark