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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Mike.

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Speaker 2: Hey Mike, how are you, sir?

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Speaker 3: Hey man?

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Speaker 2: Doing pretty good?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Thank you Mike.

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Speaker 4: You I'm assuming you called because you were you were

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Speaker 4: married and are now divorced.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. How long have also engaged?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Congratulations? Congratulations. I hope this is a better one. Hey,

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Speaker 4: what is how long were you? How long were you

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Speaker 4: married for?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Married?

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Speaker 1: Thirteen years together? Eighteen?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a good long haul question for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, if your wife was in a workplace accident and had.

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Speaker 2: A significant injury to.

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Speaker 4: Her leg, would you go to would you go to

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Speaker 4: the hospital to see her?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm your ex wife.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, wait wait wait oh oh we're already

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Speaker 1: divorced at that point. Oh yeah, oh no, no.

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Speaker 2: No, okay, how long after the divorce?

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Speaker 4: Like, if it were a month after the divorce, are

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Speaker 4: you going to go see her?

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Speaker 1: If we were separated, I would go. If we were

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Speaker 1: actually divorced, You're out. It would be kind of iffy,

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Speaker 1: but but probably probably out. I mean, SHUFSA moved away,

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Speaker 1: so that in my specific case, it would have been

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Speaker 1: a lot harder, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, I guess well, yeah, I mean that that's what

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Speaker 4: you have to go on. I mean for me, it

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Speaker 4: would just be imagined.

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Speaker 5: I think if if you have kids, than you wouldn't

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Speaker 5: play into it. Why, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't have any kids.

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Speaker 2: Okay, smart, thank you sir.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe maybe where I guess if they were younger, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and wanted to go.

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Speaker 6: But if they were adults, they can go on their own.

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Speaker 6: But if they're younger and want to go, someone has

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Speaker 6: to breathe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But like if you're sixteen and could drive, you go

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Speaker 4: see them.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong.

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Speaker 7: We were talking about like adults, Like if you got

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Speaker 7: kids in their twenties, you wouldn't go back.

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Speaker 2: Money, you don't have to go.

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Speaker 6: What is the significance of a workplace?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I wanted to say that if the person

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Speaker 4: was injured in an accident.

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Speaker 5: Like a normal car accident, I.

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Speaker 2: Think the first thought is that it's a car accident.

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Speaker 4: Which it could be. It could be any kind of accident.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't want it for I just didn't want

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Speaker 4: it to just be where all of a sudden, you

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Speaker 4: imagine the worst.

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Speaker 6: Well, workplace accidents can be fatal.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so so can car accidents. So I

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Speaker 4: guess any accident, they're just in the hospital.

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Speaker 6: To me, it was as if you were distinguished in between. Oh,

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Speaker 6: they got hurt during some extreme sport with their new lover.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, it.

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Speaker 6: Was something they were doing when you were with them

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Speaker 6: and continue to do.

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Speaker 2: No. No, it just they were in an accident.

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Speaker 6: I feel like some people would certainly expect their ex

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Speaker 6: to show up.

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Speaker 2: You're saying, no, oh no, I no. I do think

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Speaker 2: that there is some that would expect it. But I

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Speaker 6: No matter how your relationship, well.

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Speaker 4: It ended in divorce, well amicable, but you're still getting divorced.

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Speaker 4: I'm capable of being friendly and still hating you. Where

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Speaker 4: am I going? Kristen Line four, Hi.

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Speaker 2: Elliott in the morning, Good morning, Hi. Who's this? You're divorced? Yes,

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Speaker 2: if you're well, don't say it like that.

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Speaker 4: If your if your husband, if your husband was in

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Speaker 4: an accident, workplace, car, doesn't matter, would you go see him.

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Speaker 2: In the hospital.

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Speaker 3: Has a divorce?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 2: Wait, I'm sorry one more time.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you wouldn't like because I'm One of

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Speaker 4: the things that I was wondering about is do you

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Speaker 4: is it like if it's been six months or a year,

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Speaker 4: but as time goes by, you grow apart, right, even

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Speaker 4: if you are still amicable, Like if you've been divorced

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Speaker 4: ten years, you're not going to the hospital for anything.

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Speaker 6: I think some would definitely still do it.

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Speaker 4: At five years, you're not going like where's the line?

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Speaker 4: Where If it's the day after the divorce, you might

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Speaker 4: think like, ah, crap.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I should go.

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Speaker 4: But if you're if you're six months a year into it,

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Speaker 4: like where's the where's the dividing line?

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Speaker 2: And also is there backlash in the family?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it depends on how the divorce, you know,

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Speaker 3: how how the relationship ended, and mine ended terribly, So

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Speaker 3: there's no way and how I don't even think a

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Speaker 3: day after I.

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Speaker 2: Would have would he come see you? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, I've been divorced for twenty

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Speaker 3: years and I finally had to change my phone number

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Speaker 3: probably about three years ago because he still kept stalking

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Speaker 3: and popping up into my life.

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Speaker 2: God damn it. I shouldn't have asked. All right, very good,

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Speaker 2: very good, Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: So the new concern is they're coming to you to

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Speaker 6: see you, but it's not with the best of intentions.

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Speaker 2: I guess I am looking at it through the best

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Speaker 2: of intentions.

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Speaker 6: When you are asking about a demarcation line right a

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Speaker 6: period of time?

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Speaker 2: Is that why?

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Speaker 6: I feel like both callers have sort of focused on

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Speaker 6: are we separated or are we divorced?

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Speaker 2: No, you're divorced. Yeah, you're divorced.

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Speaker 6: So there's almost this like finality to the divorce.

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Speaker 2: Once you're divorced, I owe you nothing.

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Speaker 6: It's not really about owing something to someone.

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Speaker 4: My only other question is like, if let's say there's

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Speaker 4: let's split between twenty and sixty, you have an eighteen

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Speaker 4: is like, Hey, I'm gonna go see If it were me,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go see mom she was in an accident

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Speaker 4: and I was like and he was like, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not going.

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Speaker 5: You wouldn't go even if they were asked by them?

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Speaker 2: Does that?

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Speaker 6: Why's right? Yeah, that's rough.

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Speaker 5: They asked you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't necessarily have to offer up to go.

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Speaker 7: But if if the eighteen year old says, hey, I'm

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Speaker 7: going to go see her and will you come with me,

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Speaker 7: you can't say no to that.

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Speaker 2: So what's the demarcation line.

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Speaker 5: In terms of age or like if so?

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Speaker 4: Now now I haven't I don't even live with my

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Speaker 4: kid anymore. I'm this is I'm making this scenario up.

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Speaker 4: My kid's twenty five and you, hey, dad comes different,

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Speaker 4: come with me to see mom.

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Speaker 5: That's different. They're asking you.

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Speaker 2: You're twenty five, yeah, but you're thirty.

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Speaker 5: They want you to go. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: They want to.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, no, yeah, I go.

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Speaker 4: I could be so so now now now it's a

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Speaker 4: gram and I'm sixty, sixty nine years old, and my

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Speaker 4: forty five year old child is like, come with me

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Speaker 4: to see Grandma, And I'm like, I'm not going.

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Speaker 2: I'm sixty nine years old. I'm not gonna go see her.

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Speaker 6: It may bother your child less, but it certainly makes

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Speaker 6: it more interesting when they're requesting you go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It may be one of those things where I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: ask dad, even though I know what I'll say.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but so and you know what I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 2: So don't ask this.

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Speaker 5: Dad's saying now no, but.

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Speaker 2: Don't put me in that spot. Now, I gotta be

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Speaker 2: the band.

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Speaker 7: You're sixty nine years old, and you know what, that bitch.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you grow up, you're an adult. Go

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Speaker 2: see your mom yourself.

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Speaker 6: They're not asking you to go because I gotta.

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Speaker 2: Go stand in that room. You know, I hate her.

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Speaker 6: It almost sounds like at that point forty five and

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Speaker 6: sixty nine, they're asking you to go because it's just

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Speaker 6: the right thing to do.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't care about her. I've been married to

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Speaker 2: her in fifteen years.

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Speaker 6: Your emotional support now, I know they're not getting it

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Speaker 6: from you, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I have to go because my kid asked, no,

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Speaker 2: Why is that a rule? You don't have to go.

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Speaker 6: We're just telling you it's gonna be awkward.

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Speaker 4: So there's gonna be backlash, yes, and then with all

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Speaker 4: the rest of the family it'll be like, man, Ellie,

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Speaker 4: it's a real dick. Wouldn't even go see Jackie in

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Speaker 4: the hospital?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, And then I would. I would.

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Speaker 4: I would post Sorry I didn't go. We've been divorced

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Speaker 4: for twenty years.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying you have to bring a new wife.

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Speaker 6: Are you married at this point?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: And if and by the way, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't bring my wife if I was married, I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't bring my new wife by.

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Speaker 6: But there are tons of scenarios where the dynamic is

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Speaker 6: such that it is the new partner telling the X

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Speaker 6: you should go.

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Speaker 2: Well Number one, I told you I would never ever

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Speaker 2: get married again.

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Speaker 6: Forget the child asking the or saying.

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Speaker 4: But if I if I got remarried and the new

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Speaker 4: wife was like, oh gosh, I'm sorry that Jack, let's

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Speaker 4: go visitor.

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Speaker 2: I mean like, you're out a your f in mine,

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Speaker 2: you know what?

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Speaker 4: That that may be the dumbest thing I heard. I

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Speaker 4: am now twice divorced. I can't be married to you.

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Speaker 2: Where am I going? Kristen Line three?

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Speaker 6: Hi, Yellie in the morning, and what are the grounds

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Speaker 6: of this separation?

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Speaker 2: Oh? She's badass nuts he's done? Yeah, Hi? Who's this?

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Speaker 1: Hello? Is this me?

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Speaker 2: Yes? It is.

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm divorced?

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Speaker 2: How long have you been divorced?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Going on sixty years?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: And you are never going to visit your ex wife

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Speaker 4: in the hospital.

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Speaker 6: Not a chance?

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Speaker 2: Do you guys have a kid?

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Speaker 1: I got too?

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Speaker 2: How old?

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven and twenty three?

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Speaker 4: Beautiful dad, Come with me. Mom's in the hospital. She's injured.

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Speaker 4: Come with me to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Now, you old enough to get there on yelling thank you.

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Speaker 4: It's like, but by the way, I'm talking to myself.

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Speaker 2: All right, very good, thank you sir. Thank you.

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Speaker 6: From Facebook. My parents divorced because my father got someone

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Speaker 6: else pregnant. Okay, my dad still today takes my mom

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Speaker 6: to doctor's appointments because they are great friends.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's nice.

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, they're eighty some years old.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute.

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Speaker 4: He takes the woman that he cheated on and got

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Speaker 7: Well, you know what, I get that he's probably trying.

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Speaker 7: He's probably still living with Guilda.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: No, I think I'm with Diana. No, the cheating bothered her,

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Speaker 4: It didn't bother him. She's the one that was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm over it. He was always okay with it. He's

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Speaker 4: okay with this double life.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 7: I think he's doing it because it somehow makes him

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Speaker 7: feel a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: No way, yeah, no way. They're in their eighties.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like, I'm I'm still going to take help, take

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Speaker 4: You know what, if I'm her, I'm like, stop doing

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Speaker 5: She'd rather have him take him taker than like some

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Speaker 5: random uber driver. Yeah, maybe she doesn't driven.

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Speaker 2: Alo don't want to be a charity case.

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Speaker 6: What must have said their great friends?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well they I mean, I don't get that to

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Speaker 6: Caused by you, not you, Elliott, but if you're the

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Speaker 6: did it because of that party. Do you then, as

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Speaker 6: you grow and mature, especially if you're younger, are you

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Speaker 6: more likely to be that shoulder to lean on because

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Speaker 6: because you're thinking, if you're so many years later, there's

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Speaker 6: no way there is still right.

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Speaker 2: But do you come around so many years later? I

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Speaker 4: Hell, no, done is done.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and I'm with that guy. But twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and twenty three you're grown. Yeah you know what

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Speaker 2: cut the apron strings?

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Speaker 6: Yeah from X, I absolutely would go I've been divorced

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Speaker 6: for twenty five years. Oh no way, we have an

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Speaker 6: amicable relationship.

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Speaker 2: You could be amicable, but I'm not going to the hospital.

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Speaker 6: I am remarried. As well.

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Speaker 4: Oh, your spouse wants you to go divorce twice.

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Speaker 6: Lisa, it's Elliott. You have to go. It's the right

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Speaker 2: Why is that the right thing to do?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure I have the people that I've known in

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Speaker 4: my life that have been in the hospital and I've never.

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Speaker 2: Gone to see him.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't the hospital. But you did skip a funeral recently, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, I did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and uncle right the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't close with him.

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Speaker 6: But most of your family was there, almost all of them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Line eight, Hi, Elliott the morning, Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hi, you're divorced?

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Speaker 1: Uh twice?

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Speaker 4: Oh oh did the new spouse want you to go

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Speaker 4: see the old spouse?

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, honey, great, great track record.

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Speaker 8: So this is Karen calling from America's most livable community.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Nassas.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 8: So, my my kids are twenty one and twenty five,

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Speaker 8: and we divorced because my their father couldn't keep it

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Speaker 8: in his pants. Okay, So we kept it very amicable

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Speaker 8: for the kid's sake. They were young when we split up,

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Speaker 8: and to the point where my second husband, who I

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Speaker 2: To marry you.

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Speaker 9: Oh my god, yep, because he knew that.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 9: Oh you just made my day's hilarioy So but no,

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Speaker 9: but if but would you go?

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, but with your first husband, it sounds like

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Speaker 4: you would go to the hospital to see it.

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Speaker 9: I would, even though my kids are in their twenties.

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Speaker 9: There's they means you guys, You guys have kids. They're

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Speaker 9: always your babies.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sure, they also have to be adults, and they

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Speaker 4: also have to be adults.

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Speaker 9: They are, and they live independently, they live on their

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Speaker 9: own like they are fantastic human beings. But if they said, hey,

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Speaker 9: I want to go dad in the hospital, I would

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Speaker 9: go for them because they're still my babies.

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Speaker 2: Would you go? Would you go for the second one?

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Speaker 4: Till?

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Speaker 2: Hey, so the first one you said the first one

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Speaker 2: ended because he cheated?

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Speaker 4: Why did the why did the second one end?

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Speaker 9: Until it's too much to get that's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and it sounds like it's a bummer. All right,

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Speaker 2: Very good, very good, Thank you, Happy for the July.

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Speaker 2: Happy for the July.

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Speaker 6: From Aaron M. Barlow.

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Speaker 2: Oh, if my.

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Speaker 6: New husband ever said he needed to go take care

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Speaker 6: of his ex wife. I'd tell his ass to have fun.

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Speaker 6: We had a good run. Wait, really he just got

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Speaker 6: Mary hell no and hell.

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Speaker 2: Spell the hell no.

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Speaker 6: People need therapy and boundaries. And if she's continuing, of course,

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Speaker 6: stream of consciousness still rant and Kevin and if his

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Speaker 6: go pound sand together.

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Speaker 5: God, she's cold.

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Speaker 4: No, she's not, she's she's she's right, Elliott, she's right.

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Speaker 2: Be an adult again. If they're five, I get it.

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Speaker 2: But if they're if they're old enough to drive, what

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Speaker 2: is that saying?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Different saying but no, if they're old enough to drive

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Speaker 2: They can go on their own.

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Speaker 5: Sixteen.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So as Aaron and Barlow was Kevin ing christ

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Speaker 6: and I saw your response pop up where you've told her.

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Speaker 2: To preach, preach girls. She's got she's got my Kaplin

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Speaker 2: praise hands.

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Speaker 6: So you're tam Elliott on this one.

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Speaker 2: Oh thank you? You knew that? Or no, No, I'm

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Speaker 2: just I'm reading her lips.

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Speaker 6: She seems to be giving me the death stare right,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't insinuating you weren't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, there's no reason to even if it was

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Speaker 4: amicable and you don't. And if it wasn't amicable, I

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Speaker 4: mean you don't even have to spend two minutes thinking

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Speaker 6: So you are thinking about it for one hundred and

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Speaker 6: twenty seconds.

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Speaker 2: If it was amicable. Yes, No, I'm just giving people

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Speaker 6: To do I'm not. I'm just trying to say face

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Speaker 6: because what's the post? You're you're joining Facebook to write what?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Oh wait, what was I What was I think.

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Speaker 6: About the time since you've been together? Oh wait you

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Speaker 6: we've been divorced twenty years? Yeah, like your.

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Speaker 2: No, but it was succinct. What was my poast?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you've got three years ago. That's it. L