1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: I rolling into the final hour our chat with Rick 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Neweisl will come up chat with Todd Millis previewing the 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: three A and four A State High School championship games, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: which we will air on nine to fifty KM. That 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: is coming up the three A game at seven o'clock tonight, 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the four A game at eight o'clock tonight, and Hugh, 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: You and I started talking about Sam Donald the beginning 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: of the show, and we kind of morphed quickly into 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: the defense, so we didn't spend a lot of time 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: chewing on Donald himself. And I'll just give you what 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: my expectations were of Sam Donald going in, and then 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: maybe you can. 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: Bounce off that. 14 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: But Sam Donald was was a one quarterback for the 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: first six years of his career. He was another quarterback 16 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: last year, and so all I was expecting was something 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: in the middle that would trend closer to the Minnesota 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: quarterback obviously than the way he was with the Jets 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: and with Carolina, and I put some numbers behind it. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I've had these numbers on my notes for the since 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, so I didn't forget what 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: my actual expectations was in Sam Darnold prior seasons, if 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: you just took a pro rated look, if you just said, okay, 24 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: give me all his seasons pro rated on a seventeen 25 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: game season, what was he in New York and Carolina? 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: He was a sixty percent completion guy. He was a 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: passer rating of eighty two guy, twenty touchdowns and eighteen 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: interceptions on a just a general average seventeen game season. 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: Well, last year, that. 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: Sixty percent went up to sixty six percent, forty three 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: hundred yards, thirty five touchdowns, twelve interceptions, a passer rating 32 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: of one oh two, and he finally got his QBR 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: over fifty where it was sub fifty before that. In 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, he has taken his completion percentage just 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: from sixty six to sixty eight percent. He's taken his 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: yards per attempt from seven point nine to nine. Now, 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't have quite the interception to touch touchdown interception 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: ratio that he had last year, but he still has 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: a tick higher passer rating one oh three versus one 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: o two, and his QBR heugh, which I know you 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: love and for good reason, it has jumped from fifty 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: seven to sixty four as a QBR. So yeah, a 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: lot of metrics would say Sam's actually better this season 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: than he was last year with the Minnesota Vike. 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know you say last year. For me, 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: I find the define the defining point to be November 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: twenty seventh, twenty twenty two, three years ago, when he 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: was twenty five years old, because that was the end 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty two season. He got his first 50 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: start of the year in week twelve. Prior to that, 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: he had had four seasons, three with the Jets and 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: one with Carolina where he had just started solid. So 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 3: the first time he had a break was in in 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: that that twenty fifth his twenty fifty year when when 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: he was twenty five. Here's how the breakdown was. So 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: that's the first forty nine starts versus the last thirty six. Now, 57 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: when I say last thirty six, we're talking four teams. 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: We're talking Carolina, San Francisco, Minnesota, and Seattle, four different 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: coaches obviously prior to the so we'll just call that 60 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: the date, all right, got me November twenty seven, basically 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: a little over three years ago. Prior to that date, 62 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: win percent is under thirty five thirty four point seven. 63 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Since then, seventy five percent. Uh, how does that compare 64 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes in that same stretch He's only won seventy 65 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: two and a half percent. Tom Brady only won in 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 3: his entire career seventy five point four percent, and again 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: for last thirty six games, Donald at seventy five percent. 68 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: How about passer ratings? The number of games where you 69 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: have a triple digit passer rating first forty nine game 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: for Donald, sixteen percent of his games he was going 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: to give you a triple digit passer rating the last 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 3: thirty six games sixty six point seven two thirds of 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: his starts, twenty four out of thirty six. How does 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: that compare in Pat mahomes entire career He's fifty percent, exactly, 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: he in the last three years, he's thirty seven percent. 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: Tom Brady is forty seven percent for his whole career, 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: and again sixty seven percent for Sam Donald over the 78 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: last thirty six games. And here's a here's a here's 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: a fun little thing. And I'll close with this. So 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes outs one hundred and twenty four starts in 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: his entire career. So where you could say, hey, how 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: have I done my last thirty six games? Well, that 83 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: didn't start for Pat Mahomes until eighty nine starts, So 84 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: he's got eighty nine starts where he could he could 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: go back and say, how have I done in my 86 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: last thirty six starts? Of the eighty nine starts he 87 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 3: has a chance to reflect that way, only three of 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 3: eighty nine did he have a better stretch than Sam Donald. 89 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: Tom Brady has get two hundred and ninety eight starts 90 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: that he could go back, smoke a cigar, kick his 91 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: feet up and say, hey, how, by the way, what's 92 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: how many triple digit games have I had in my 93 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: last thirty six games? The of the two hundred and 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: ninety eight starts that he could reflect on that, only 95 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: nineteen of them were thirty six of his last thirty 96 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: six did he have a rate that exceeded what Sam 97 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 3: Darnold has giving you right now over the last thirty 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: six games. That's how how impressive he's been. And so 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. Obviously, we hope he keeps going. But 100 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: that gets my attention when you say, hang on, he's 101 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: been doing this for three years, he's been a different guy. 102 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think we all feel like whether 103 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: or not this defense is as good as the twenty 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: thirteen defense. We all feel like it's championship caliber at 105 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: this point. So then the question goes to the offensive 106 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: side of the ball, and particularly the quarterback. Is this 107 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: quarterback championship a quarterback that's good enough to be a 108 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion? And you know, I'll kind of go 109 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: to the whole magic eight ball, right, We've got you've 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: got unquestionably yes. The signs point to yes. The signs 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: point to know or no. Now, I'm assuming you're not 112 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: going to say no. But is this more of an 113 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: unquestionably yes that this quarterback is good enough with the 114 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: pieces around him to win a Super Bowl? 115 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: Or is it still more the signs point to yes. 116 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 3: I think it's mostly mostly yes. I think the signs 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: point to yes. For me, I look at you know, 118 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: probability lives in a world greater in zero in less 119 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: than a hundred, right right, So for me, I think 120 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: it's likely just because there's clear evidence that he's a 121 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: different quarterback over the last three years. Like I just 122 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 3: gave you some of the numbers. But now you say, well, 123 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: what about in the clutch games? 124 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. 125 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: Remember last year when Seattle had to beat either Green 126 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: Bay or Minnesota to give their playoff chances to keep 127 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: that alive. Yes, you remember when the Vikings came in 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: and Sam Donald had an incredible game? Was that a 129 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: big game? 130 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: Yes? 131 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: Well our people, Okay, what about the two Green Bay 132 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: games that he had where he played very well and won? 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: What about the Ram game in the regular season earlier 134 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: where he played great but they lost, and you know 135 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: the other Detroit game, or she the other Detroit game 136 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: where you know, he put up twenty nine points but 137 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: lost and he had a phenomenal game, Sam. My point 138 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: is Sam Donald had a bunch of big games last year, 139 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: and why people only focus on the last two games? 140 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: You know? 141 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: I just think, as Don James told the Seattle Times 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety nine, the big game is always the 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 3: one that you lost. They never want to give you 144 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: credit for the one that you want. That's fair, and 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 3: I think that's been dogging Sam Darnold and so until 146 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: he beats the Rams on December eighteenth, this question is 147 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: going to be hanging over him. 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: No question, And I think part of it's the timing too. 149 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I think one is people, yes, are more critical than 150 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: they are complimentary. Two, I think you know, just the timing, 151 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, the last game in the playoff game. I mean, 152 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: that's the timing of those games weren't weren't great. But 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: we'll break down a lot more Sam. We'll have another 154 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: piece of data here when we talk next on Monday. 155 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: We will have another piece of data against the Atlanta 156 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: fell against defense. When we come back. Rick new Heis 157 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: our conversation yesterday. He's going to talk about Lane Kiffin. 158 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: He's going to evaluate the Husky regular season with us 159 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: is he a proponent of the Big Ten football playoff 160 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: weekend And Todd Millis will join us as well, talking 161 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: about the high school football championships coming up next on 162 00:08:48,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM. 163 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 5: Your home for college football Saturdays, is live with CBS 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 5: Sports anal Rick new Heiseel powered buy Taco Time. 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: Hungry at Taco Time. 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: It's easy to create exactly what you're craving, and we 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 5: wouldn't have it any other way. 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Rick, 176 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: you are seven and two against the spread of your 177 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: last nine games. 178 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 7: My friend, I'm here for the people. I mean, what 179 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 7: else can I tell you? I'm here for the people. 180 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 7: I got out of the blocks a little slow, I said, listen, 181 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 7: I looked at myself in the mirror, said you've got 182 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 7: to give them something that they need, and other than 183 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 7: Chris Burritos, what else can I deliver? That's what I'm 184 00:09:58,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 7: trying to help you with. 185 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: I love it. Can't wait for your Taco Time pick 186 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: of the week in about fifteen minutes or so. But 187 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: let's start at what we saw at Montlake on Saturday. 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: It's just it was unbelievable that the numbers on first down. Rick, 189 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: I did a little breakdown after the game because I 190 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: was like God, it seemed. 191 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 6: Like we were terrible passing the ball on first down. 192 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: They were two of eight with two interceptions and two 193 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: sacks on first down passes. Meanwhile, they carried the ball 194 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: fourteen times for one hundred and five yards. 195 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 6: When they ran the ball on first down. Is there 196 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 6: a point. 197 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: Where you just talk to your coordinators, you talk to 198 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: your coaches, and say, we're just not gonna throw on 199 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: first down anymore when it's that desparate. 200 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 7: Well, when you're looking at it after the fact, you 201 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 7: sat there and scratch your head and said, we should 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 7: never have thrown. But when you're talking about a talent 203 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 7: like Deman Williams, you just can't believe that he would 204 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 7: be that inconsistent. But there were signs of that at 205 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 7: the Rose Bowl the week before, even though it was 206 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 7: an easy victory. What his accuracy and his rhythm to 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 7: his throwing in terms of the footwork tied to the 208 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 7: arm were off. And that's got to get fixed before 209 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 7: they play their postseason game because he's too talented to 210 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 7: be as inaccurate as he's been the last couple of weeks. 211 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: And then the defense just kept doing what the defense 212 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: has done all year long against everybody, the best teams, 213 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: the terrible teams, everybody in between. That they just kept 214 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: the dogs in the game, just like they did against 215 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State, just like they did against Michigan, and the 216 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: offense just couldn't, couldn't muster anything. I mean, this defense 217 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: carrying over for next year. I mean, this could be 218 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: a top fifteen, top twelve unit in America. 219 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 6: Can it? 220 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 7: There's no question? And Ryan Walters deserves a huge amount 221 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 7: of credit to put this team in the position that 222 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 7: they were in to corral an Oregon running game that 223 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 7: had run roughshot over everybody. Unfortunately, when you do that, 224 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 7: you have to commit extra guys to the box, and 225 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 7: you Taymore was talented enough to you know, hit some 226 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 7: passes down the field and give the Ducks the advantage. 227 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 7: But a huge effort and a huge performance by Ryan 228 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 7: Walters in year one at Washington. 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: So how would you evaluate the irregular season overall? They 230 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: go from six and seven last year, six and six 231 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: in the regular season to. 232 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 6: I think a fairly predictable eight and four. 233 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: If you'd have told me at the beginning of the 234 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: year they were going to go eight and four and 235 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: they were going to lose to Oregon, Ohio State, Michigan, 236 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin, I think you. 237 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 6: Probably would have said, Yeah, that sounds about right. 238 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 7: That's exactly right. I think it was a very good season. 239 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 7: I think the hope for that breakthrough game didn't quite materialize. 240 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 7: But there's no reason to think that after another year recruiting, 241 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 7: assuming that Jed has the same you know, kind of 242 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 7: caliber class and the event and also the same resources 243 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 7: to go and cultivate a great class that you won't have, 244 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 7: you know, the game breakers that will be the difference 245 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 7: in those games that keep her from the penthouse. I 246 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 7: guess of the Big Ten, that's where they're trying to 247 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 7: get and that's where I think Washington deserves to be. 248 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 7: We'll see if they can get that done. 249 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 8: Well. 250 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, twelve frank recruiting class helps, That's that's not bad. 251 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: So Jed did a nice nice job there. But Rick 252 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: Newizel joining us Rick. It seems like every three or 253 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: four years, Lane Kiffen is front and center in the 254 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: most newsworthy person in college football for. 255 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 6: One reason or another. 256 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Is this more what we're what we saw with Kiffen 257 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: over the last week and really over the last month. 258 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: Is this more of a college football problem that will 259 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: reappear on a regular basis, or is this more unique 260 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: to Lane Kiffen. 261 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 7: There is no question that it's awkward. There's no question 262 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 7: that it is awkward. He does not need to make 263 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 7: it this awkward, But college football is at fault in 264 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 7: terms of the calendar. For coaches needing to make decisions 265 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 7: prior to making the change from one school to another 266 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 7: shouldn't be happening in the middle of a playoff run. 267 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 7: The transfer portal shouldn't happen in the middle of a 268 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 7: playoff run. This should all be different, uh, And I 269 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 7: hope that someday it will be, because it just requires 270 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 7: a little common sense. But there's no question that Dismount 271 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 7: Danny otherwise known as Lane Kiffin has once again, you know, 272 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 7: busted a knee, busted an ankle. He just can't land it. 273 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 7: He just can't land it. 274 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: It's just an impossibility for the lad You know, eight 275 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: of the nine to and top nine teams in the 276 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: rankings are from the Big ten or the SEC. It 277 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: just seems to me like the gap continues to grow 278 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: between the two super conferences and the rest. I mean, 279 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about potentially an ACC conference without any tournament 280 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: worthy teams. So how long will there be talk about 281 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the four four two two one model if the ACC 282 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: and the Big twelve can't carry their weight? I mean, 283 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: are we going to see the talk go to five 284 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: five one one? Here in the few. 285 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 7: Well, we're getting close to that anyway, and I think 286 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 7: that the ACC and Big twelve are seeing the writing 287 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 7: on the wall. Certainly, Tony Pettiti is pushing for automatic qualifiers, 288 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 7: and the fact that they extended the deadline from December 289 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 7: first to January twenty third, I think they're going to 290 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 7: blow right past sixteen. I won't be shocked that we 291 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 7: go to twenty four and in so doing create automatic 292 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 7: qualifiers for all those other conferences so that they can 293 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 7: have play in games and create some more revenue for themselves. 294 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 7: It doesn't seem hard for Texas Tech, who have a 295 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 7: couple of billionaires that are financing their recruiting and their roster. 296 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 7: But not everybody's blessed with oil men at the est 297 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 7: of an athletic department. So fingers crossed that we can 298 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 7: come to some common sense about the economics of the game. 299 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the play in games in the future. 300 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: This weekend, maybe a Big ten playoff weekend instead of 301 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: just a Big ten championship weekend. We've talked to Wilner 302 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: about it, about a three versus six game, a four 303 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: versus yea five games, But. 304 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 7: Now you're talking that's exactly what needs to happen. It's 305 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 7: silly for Ohio State in Indiana to risk their rosters 306 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 7: to injury this week for a game that doesn't matter. 307 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 7: I mean, it's nice to have a big ten plaque 308 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 7: on your wall, but it pales in comparison to a 309 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 7: national championship. And if we had three versus six and 310 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 7: four versus five, we could solve some of the Vanderbilt problems, 311 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 7: some of the other problems in these other conferences. USC 312 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 7: would like to have a chance at this thing, right, 313 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 7: so everybody would like a chance, and that's what I 314 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 7: think is ultimately going to happen. 315 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 6: And what's interesting about that is had we had that. 316 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: System this year, the Huskies Oregon game actually would have 317 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: been for a berth for the Dogs as the sixth 318 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: spot in the playing game, because if they would have 319 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: beaten Oregon, they would have had they would have been 320 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: in a tie with Iowa, and they would have held 321 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: the strength to schedule advantage by virtue of that win 322 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: over Oregon, and they would have played Oregon again. We 323 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: could have had a situation where they play Oregon last 324 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: week at home and Oregon on the road at autsin 325 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: the next week. I mean, it would it would have 326 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: made last week in a heck of a lot more 327 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: entertaining and interesting going into. 328 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 7: It, and the excitement for that would have been one 329 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 7: of those things that I think you could have been 330 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 7: absolutely felt. So that's that's the future. We're headed that way, 331 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 7: I promise you. 332 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: What is the intrigue of watching Ohio State Indiana this week? 333 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean, is it just for Indiana to try to 334 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: get their first Big Ten championship game in forever? And 335 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: do you think they play harder than Ohio State because 336 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State isn't really all that concern with winning a 337 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Big Ten championship. 338 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 7: The big thing in this game is the quarterbacks because 339 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 7: they're playing for a Heisman trophy. If Julian Sayan has 340 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 7: a monster game, he's going to be the straight arm winner. 341 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 7: And if Fernando Mendoza has a monster game, he's going 342 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 7: to be the straight arm winner. That will be the case. 343 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 7: If neither has a great game, and this is a 344 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 7: defensive tug a tug of war, then we're going to 345 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 7: see ba Go Pavia from Vanderbilt win the Heisman. So 346 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 7: it's there's some intrigue involved. I just hope that Ryan 347 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 7: Day and Kurt Signetti watched eleven guys get up every 348 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 7: time as the tray piles on this field in Indianapolis. 349 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: Be terrible if somebody got hurt for this one in 350 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: before the playoffs, Rick, if Texas would have played McNeese 351 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: State instead of Ohio State in the first week of 352 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: the season and they finished ten and two, would they 353 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: have been in the playoffs. 354 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 7: Based on the brand? I mean, that's the same as 355 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 7: as Alabama being in the playoff at ten and two 356 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 7: having lost to Florida State. It's the same as Notre 357 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 7: Dame being ten and two having started the season zero 358 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 7: and two. We believe in brands, which is why the 359 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 7: Elliott Eli drinkwitz Is of the world want automatic qualifiers. 360 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 7: We don't start the season believing that Vanderbilt or Missouri 361 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 7: or Texas Tech can be great. We end up learning 362 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 7: that they can be Why use eleven one is still 363 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 7: sits at eleven. But the brands, if they get to 364 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 7: that number, they're in because they resonate and they sit 365 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 7: in our minds as quality football programs, and they also 366 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 7: draw television ice Is. 367 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: That going to make coaches fearful, especially big time programs, 368 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: fearful to schedule those cross conference games because they can 369 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: just say, hey, cautionary tail. 370 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 6: Look at Texas. 371 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: All they needed to do is play Idaho instead of 372 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State and they'd be in the playoffs. 373 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 7: I think the television people have too much clout for 374 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 7: them to be able to stop scheduling good games for 375 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 7: television content. So what I think is going to happen 376 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 7: is we're going to have some deals made amongst the 377 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 7: Power conferences that rely on where you finished. If a 378 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 7: SEC finishes number one, then they're going to get an 379 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 7: SEC one schedule, which means that they'll play the number 380 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 7: one team at the Big Ten next year, they'll play 381 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 7: the number two team from the Big twelve at home, 382 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 7: and they'll play the number four team from the ACC 383 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 7: the road. You can Understan, you can follow my logic here. 384 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 7: Then they're going to have predetermined schedules that all create 385 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 7: great television content, but pit the good teams against good 386 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 7: teams so that we get some parody and these other 387 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 7: teams that are sitting in your struggle to keep up 388 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 7: with the Joneses in their Power conferences can get some 389 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 7: chances to have a little bite at the apple. 390 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: Well to your point, if they go to a twenty 391 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: four team, then you can do more of those things 392 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: because coaches aren't afraid to lose those games because then 393 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you're sard if you're like, we're gonna 394 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: make the twenty four team playoff regardless. 395 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 7: Well you should, but you have to win and the 396 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 7: television content for the fans and for everybody is important. 397 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 7: So my belief is that that will be the case. 398 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned BYU. They are stuck between Miami and Notre 399 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: Dame right now, So if BYU loses this weekend, then 400 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: presumably Miami and Notre Dame would be next to each other, 401 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: and the tournament committee, the playoff commit Teddy Cheris, said, Hey, 402 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: we really haven't judged Miami a Notre Dame because they 403 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: haven't been next to each other. 404 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 6: There's a thought that now the head to head. 405 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: Matchup that Miami won would be looked at more closely 406 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: if they're next to each other in next week's poll. 407 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: So could you actually see Miami jumping Notre Dame in 408 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: that scenario or are they pretty much stuck where they are? 409 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 7: I think the committee chair, the athletic director Markansas, said 410 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 7: that they were in the same pool this last couple 411 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 7: of weeks and still they felt Notre Dame was ahead, 412 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 7: which is incredibly confounding given the fact that every tiebreaker 413 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 7: I've ever known and the same schedule, if you played 414 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 7: each other, then it's head to head. And yet we 415 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 7: still see Notre Dame ahead of Miami. But that being said, 416 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 7: if they changed that with not either team playing this week, 417 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 7: it would be completely ridiculous. And I just don't know 418 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 7: we can trust the committee. Not that I am calling 419 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 7: anybody out as not doing their job. I just think 420 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 7: the committee thing is very very close to the ap 421 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 7: which means that you're just kind of going by wins 422 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 7: and losses and favorite teams. 423 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: All right, Rick, I can feel your heat through the phone. Man, 424 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: You're absolutely on fire. Seven and two of your Taco 425 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: Time pick of the week over the last nine weeks. 426 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 1: I'll take a couple of Chris Beef burritos and some 427 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: Tatar fries and the coke. 428 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 6: That'll be my pick of the week. What is yours? 429 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 7: We are going with the Ohio State Buckeyes. They're laying 430 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 7: five and a half. And as much as I love 431 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 7: Kurt Signetti and I am a devout parishioner at the 432 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 7: Church of Signetti, I believe the buck Eyes with their 433 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 7: unbelievable stable of wide receivers and a quarterback that's sitting 434 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 7: close to eighty percent of his passes and a defense 435 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 7: that has held opponents that less than one hundred points. 436 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 7: No other team is even close to that. I am 437 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 7: going with the Buckeyes. 438 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: Love it, love it. We'll talk to you next week. 439 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: I like that pick. Well, we'll see on Thursday. Thanks coach. 440 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 7: All right, babies, talk to you soon. 441 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Great stuffrom Rick new Heisley has been absolutely in fuego. 442 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: He is taking Ohio State minus the five and a 443 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: half against Indiana in the Big Ten championship game. 444 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 6: We're gonna go from. 445 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: Talking college football to talking high school football tonight on 446 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: nine fifty kjr AM. 447 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 6: There is the three A State championship. 448 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Tomorrow I'll have the call on nine to fifty kjr 449 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: AM of the four A State championship between Lake Stevens. 450 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 6: And Sumner and talk about it all. 451 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: Todd Millis are from from Varsity WA News coming up 452 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: next in our final segment in ninety three point three KJFM. 453 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 8: Now back to Football Friday Age sponsored by Tito's Handmade 454 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 8: Vodka on your home for the NFL Sports Radio ninety 455 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 8: three point three KJR FM. 456 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: Rolling into the final segment of the show on a 457 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Friday night, and if you flip over to nine to 458 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: fifty KJR AM in about fifteen minutes, you will hear 459 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: the dulcet tones of one Michael Benton calling a three 460 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: A state championship game and to preview it with us 461 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: from Varsity WA News, our friend Todd and Millis Todd. 462 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: How you doing good? 463 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: Good? I'm doing well man? 464 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 465 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 4: Wa are windy? You here at Husky Stadium? So I 466 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: imagine it, And it's supposed to stay throughout the day, 467 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 4: so it's gonna make it for very interesting state championship 468 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 4: games for the rest of the day. 469 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: That's the thing. 470 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this change from indoor, cozy climate and Tacoma 471 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: that we've had forever and ever and ever now to 472 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: Husky Stadium is going to be different. 473 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 8: Now. 474 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: It does not sound like in the three A game 475 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: tonight is going to be much as much an impact 476 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: as it would necessarily in the four A game, because 477 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like Mount Tahoma and Oday, these two big 478 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: time teams this year just want to grind it out 479 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: on the ground anyway, right, Yeah. 480 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 4: They're built very very similarly, Dick. And it's interesting because 481 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 4: we all know about Oday and Monte Cohler and the 482 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: Viera offense, and we're going to rotate three or four 483 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: guys play power football and we're gonna let our defense 484 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: do its thing. Montahoma's built exactly like that. They've got 485 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 4: three running backs that they will rely on. You know, 486 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 4: Nezzie White and Felix Diaz are kind of leading the 487 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: leading the committee, and they'll take some they'll take some 488 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 4: chances with Mika Cadero and Elijah Door. So Husky fans 489 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 4: get used to that name because he's signed with the 490 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 4: University of Washington and he's had a fantastic year, the 491 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: MVP of the three APSL. So, but I think tonight 492 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 4: it's going to be run the football and play defense. 493 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: That's the kind of whether it is. I mean, we've 494 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 4: got thirty thirty thirty mile an hour gusts of wind 495 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 4: going in one direction, so if you're going to the east, 496 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 4: if your offense is going to the east, you're gonna 497 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 4: have a really difficult time scoring. 498 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Would this be an upset? I mean, I know Oday's 499 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: the one seed, Mount Tahoma is the two. Was it 500 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: first of all, was it an upset last week when 501 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: Mount Tahoma beat East Side Catholic even though Mountahoma had 502 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: a higher seed and we all think of East Side 503 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Catholic as this big, huge megalith power and yet Mount 504 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Tahoma got the win fairly easily twenty one to six. 505 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: Was that seen as an upset after that game? I 506 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 2: mean maybe marginally. 507 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: What I think what would took everybody back was was 508 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: the fact that mounts a home of controlled the football 509 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 4: game and Mountahoma's defense. I mean, they would fare very 510 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 4: well this year with their twenty sixteeniors in the three 511 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 4: A Metro League. So I don't think the fact that 512 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: they went toe to toe with Eastside Catholic doesn't surprise anybody. 513 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 4: But the fact that they they got out to the 514 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: big lead and East Side Catholic did not score until 515 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: the final minutes, yeah, that was a little bit of 516 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: a surprisal. So in that regard, Yeah, but hey, listen, 517 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: this team is I know it's it's difficult for people 518 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: outside Seattle, and I used to a brand of football 519 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: that wins, you know, the win t of Bellevue and 520 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 4: power football of Oday and East Side Catholic. You know 521 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 4: that that's kind of ruled the roost the last decade 522 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: or so, and Mounta Home has kind of taken a 523 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: little bit of everything there and and and kind of 524 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 4: applied it to their twenty sixteen years and they're just 525 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 4: playing great football. But much like oday, the defense from 526 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 4: Mounta Homa drives the bus stick and I expect that 527 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: to happen tonight, especially with this one and very low 528 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 4: scoring game. I'm anticipating well. 529 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: And then tomorrow night in the game I'll be calling 530 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: along with Chris Kidd at seven o'clock. We should see 531 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: more balls in the air, so we'll see if there's 532 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: a thirty five mill an hour wins tomorrow night. That 533 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: may favor Sumner a little bit as the Sumner Spartans, 534 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 1: the defending four A state champions taking on Lake Stevens, 535 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: who does love to chuck it around. What do you 536 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: think about this game matching two fabulous longtime coaches, Keith 537 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Ross of Sumner in his twenty seventh year and Tom 538 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: Try from Lake Stevens. 539 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's only the second time in state history in 540 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 4: the four A game where the past two state champions 541 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: have played the following year they played each other, So 542 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 4: Lake Stevens winning it in twenty two and twenty three. 543 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 4: Like you said, Sumner beating Camus last year for the 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 4: state championship its first in a very long time and 545 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 4: Keith Ross's first as a coach. You know, these teams 546 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: played in Week one. It was a rematch of the 547 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 4: season opener last year, and like last year, it came 548 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 4: down to the final play and Lake Stevens ended up 549 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: pulling it off on a last second touchdown pass from 550 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 4: Blake Moser. You're gonna have fun watching Blake Moser. If 551 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 4: he's not completing passes in the wind is affecting the 552 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 4: pass game, he can beat you with his legs. He 553 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: is a it's like, well, it's like he's sort of 554 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: like being shot out of the cannon so fast. And 555 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 4: then if you put too much attention with him, then 556 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 4: Jamian Ferrell, the really twitchy running back, can take it 557 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: the distance too. It's a very very dangerous offensive backfield 558 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 4: that Lake Stephens has. But if it's not Wendy, then 559 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: you got Mac. You know, you've got three really good 560 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 4: receivers that Lake Stephens has on the perimeter to throw 561 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: the football too. They're a really, really dangerous offense and 562 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: there's a reason why they put up fifty sixty seventy 563 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 4: points in the postseason. They're really really difficult to stop Dick. 564 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: And if anything, if last week's game has anything to 565 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: do with this week's game, for Sumner, all I have 566 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: to do is remember two names, and that's running back 567 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: Lance McGee and wide receiver Braylan Polp. Braylan Polp because 568 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Coach Ross told me that those two got four forty 569 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: nine touches out of the fifty plays they ran last 570 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: year or last week. Rather, Lance McGee a two thousand 571 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: yard running back and then Braylan Pope was absolutely fantastic 572 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: ten catches, one hundred and thirty three yards and two 573 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: touchdowns last week. 574 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Braylan Pope, like you mentioned, had a big 575 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: game against Lake Stephens the first time with four touchdown catches. 576 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: He's tough to stop. And so Lake Stevens is going 577 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: to have to figure out a way to bracket him 578 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: or get some help on him. But I think you're 579 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: going to see Lake Stevens defense gear to stop Lance McGee. 580 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: I mean, he cannot run for three hundred and thirteen 581 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 4: yards against Lake Stevens like he did last week against 582 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: If the Bikes think they're going to win the game, 583 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 4: So I think they're probably going to load the box 584 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: and really key in on Lance and find some help 585 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: against Braylin and and force Sumner to kind of go 586 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: to other guys. Like you said, those two really hogged 587 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 4: targets and touches last week. If those guys are allowed 588 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: to dictate the game like they did last week against 589 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 4: pull Up, it could be for a very long night 590 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 4: for the Lake Stephens defense, a defense that has struggled 591 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 4: at times here in the postseason against a good passing game. 592 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: Hey, enjoy the game tonight. I'll talk to you tomorrow night. 593 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 594 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: Before we let you go, tell everybody how we can, 595 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: especially old school fans of Todd Millis and the Tacoma 596 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: News Tribune. Where can we get Todd Millis now on 597 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: his on his Varsity News reports. 598 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate the support. Man. We're at Varsitylawnnews dot com. 599 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: It's myself and and former Tacoma you should be in 600 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 4: sportswriter Lawrence Smith, and we started our own website in 601 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: the in the summer, covering the whole state of Washington 602 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: and uh man, it's the you know the Uh, the 603 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 4: support's been unbelievable. Really appreciate all the listeners and the readers. 604 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: And we'll be here all weekend here at Husky Stadium, uh, 605 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 4: for for all six games, and then uh, you know, 606 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: we'll get one day off and then we'll give ourselves 607 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: toward basketball and girls like football and wrestling probably my 608 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: favorite favorite time of the year. So but I appreciate 609 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: the support for everybody that's that's logged on and subscribe 610 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: and supported us. 611 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: Love it. Hey, we have appreciate it. Todd, thanks so much. 612 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: Enjoy the game tonight. 613 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 4: Appreciate it, Dick. Thanks man. 614 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: Todd Millis Varsity one News. 615 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: He'll be covering the three A state title game tonight 616 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: and the four A state title game tomorrow. Both games 617 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: can be heard at seven pm. Mike Benton tonight, Dick 618 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: Faine tomorrow. Hey, that's me. I'm speaking in third person, Jackson. 619 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear this with you tomorrow. 620 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 6: Benton. 621 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 2: Today, let's go. 622 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 9: It's been a while since I've done a football game. 623 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 9: I've done a billion basketball game. Has been a while 624 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 9: since I've done a football game. But this should be 625 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 9: an absolutely fantastic matchup. Both these games should be very 626 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 9: very good, so you'll have some high school football on 627 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 9: the radio on nine to fifty KJRM. 628 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us. 629 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: Great stuff thanks to Hubreed, Love Millan, thanks to Todd 630 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: Millis there, Rick new Heisel don't forget picking the locks 631 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: on ninety three point three. KJRFM is coming up next 632 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: with our friend MJ in the Midday and Lee Sterling 633 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: say everybody have a great