1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: And now it's time for Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: If my Hollywood you mean Burbie across the street promo 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: meaners and it's a little that serves beer. 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: All right tonight the latest box office numbers, the early 5 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: oscar positioning, and more on the major Netflix Warner Brothers 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: corporate dispute. I got a couple of high profile legal 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: cases shaping up all within the business of Hollywood. Sometimes 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: the business of Hollywood is crime, and we'll talk about 9 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: that soon. Let's talk about it now, Sam, are you there? 10 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here, all right. 11 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: How's the voice sounded today? 12 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Then it's coming in clear, actually very nice. 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: I usually draw the shutters here in a planet of 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: the tapes, but I opened the shutters today to see 15 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: if it would affect the sound. But I don't think 16 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: it's affecting the sound. And now I can see Catalina 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: from where I broadcast. 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: How is the island? 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: It's looking pretty clear. And I sometimes think, you know, 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: if this country goes to pot I'll just leave and 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: move to Catalina. 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 4: I know that there's some people like during specific times 23 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 4: of the year when the weather is nice, will jet 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 4: ski all the way across oh Yeah, and that just 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: sounds really cool to me. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: There's a place. I think it's a new part beach. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: It's it's like a thing you just like, you know, 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: sign up and you you can jet ski all the 29 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: way to Catalina, but then you turn around and come 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: back the same day, jet ski home. I think I 31 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: think that the trip home is what's going to get you. 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 4: I could feel that being kind of an exhausted journey back. 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to need to sleep over in Catalina 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: and then maybe at least one night, maybe two nights, 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: and then jet ski back. 37 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: That's not a bad idea. 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: Set up a bed and breakfast somewhere out there where 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: you can jet ski over there, like a seasonal bed 40 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: and breakfast for people. 41 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: I like your I like the what you're thinking. 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that idea. 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: We should try it, all right, let's put that in 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: the notes. Yeah, okay, what's going on right now? This 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: is kind of tragic. Actress Melissa Gilbert we all know 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: her from Little House in the Prairie Half Pint. She 47 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: has written a letter to a judge asking for special 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: protection for her husband, actor Timothy Bussfeld, following his recent 49 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: arrest on charges related to child sexual abuse. According to 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: court filings, Busfield is being held in custody while awaiting 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: further proceedings. So he's behind bars. He's considered a he's 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: considered a threat. And you think about all the other 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: people that they just don't even have bail for it. 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: This guy is behind bars. Even the half pint can't 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: get him out, and Gilbert Letter argues that his status, 56 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: as well as a well known public figure, places him 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: at a heightened risk while incarcerated. It's probably right about 58 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: that she urged the court to consider measures to ensure 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: his safety while the case moves forward. She didn't say 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: let him out. She's just respectfully saying, hey, put him 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: somewhere safe. The filing does not address the merits of 62 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: the criminal allegations themselves and which remain pending, but instead 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: focuses on conditions of the confinement and the potential dangers 64 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: faced by famous people in the jails. From a legal perspective, 65 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: requests like this are not uncommon in cases involving celebrities, 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 2: where defense teams often seek protective custody or alternative housing 67 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: to mitigate safety concerns prior to trial. The case remains 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: in the early stages with no determination yet on guilt 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: or innocence. But I'm just wondering about bail, like what's 70 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: going on with that? So I try to follow up 71 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: on that. But this guy was. 72 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: Man, this guy's really well known, been in a bunch 73 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: of different movies, TV shows. 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: He was one of the nerds in Revenge of the Nerds. 75 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, he was. 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 4: He was the one of the journalists in West Wing. 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: He's been in a bunch of very well known and 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: he's one of the actors that you might not recognize 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: the name, but you definitely recognize the face because a 80 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 4: lot of us, who are you know, in our forties fifties, 81 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: a lot of the gen xers, he grew up alongside us. 82 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: I you know, we don't know what happened here. I mean, 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: we do know what he's accused of, but you get 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: a hunch. My hunch is it's it's possible. 85 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 5: This is. 86 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: For the most part, bs, because there is a possibility 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: that kids got fired parents to revenge, made up some stuff. 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: This kid says he touched him or whatever, but the 89 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: other kid. Other people are saying, well, you pick up 90 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: a kid and you know, hold them over his head. 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: And go, hey, kid, how you doing kid? Some people 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: do that long past the time. I think maybe nineteen 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 2: seventy two is the last time you could do that. 94 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: And hey, little rascal, come here, let me give you 95 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: a niggie. Can't do that. And if he's doing that 96 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: and they're mad at him, they'll say, hey, let's get 97 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 2: him for the nuggies or whatever. I'm and I don't 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: know anything more than what's been reported in the papers, 99 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: but it looks like I would hold out judgment on 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: this guy and his you know, I mean, his wife 101 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: is standing by him, and she's an upstanding not only 102 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: an actress, but she was like head of the Screen 103 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: Actress Guild for a while. I just doesn't it doesn't 104 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: seem and he's like turning himself in. He's being one 105 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: hundred percent cooperative. He's not like, you know, running around 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: the country in a bronco on Suicide Watch or anything. Yeah, 107 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 2: you sing you. 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 4: Were talking about how you know, like they put him 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 4: in prison he was a threat. Is he a threat 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: to himself or is he was he a flight risk? 111 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: Because if he was, he wouldn't have had to turn 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 4: himself in. He could have just left. 113 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't understand it, but you know more well, 114 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: and I just I'm just saying we should reserve judgment 115 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: and not you know, treat him like, oh that guy 116 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: synonymous with the child abuse. Not yet anyway, all right, 117 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: that's a that's the big news. There other news in Hollywood. 118 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: There's a new queen of the box office. Sam Who 119 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: do you think is the number one box office highest 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: grossing lead actress right now in the movies? 121 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. 122 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 4: Highest grossing or one that gets the most money per contract. 123 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: Highest grossing in the highest grossing films, like her movies 124 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: bring in the most money. Who's the most bankable female 125 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: star in Hollywood right now? 126 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go Scarlet Johansson. 127 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: You're so close, and it's such a good guess. But 128 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: she was number one, but she has now been topped 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: by Zoe Saldana. 130 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: Oh, hey, that makes sense. They've both they're both in 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: the Marvel Universe. 132 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 4: They've been in a lot of the same things together, 133 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 4: so they've grossed a lot of the same money together. 134 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been in that, but she has Avatar now, 135 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: So Zoe Saltania has Avatar in Infinity Wars, Avengers Indgame, 136 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: Guardians of the Galaxy. It's like over fourteen billion dollars 137 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: globally from her films. So there's a new queen, Zoe Saldania. Beautiful. 138 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: All hail to this queen of the cinema. 139 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: I bow respectfully. 140 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: This seconds weekend's box office kind of soft January. Usually 141 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 2: you've got a soft January market. Avatar is still holding 142 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: the top spot despite a steep drop starting. It's starting 143 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: to drop. 144 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 145 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: The new twenty eight years later Temple of Bone opened 146 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: pretty solidly and got to the number two spot. And 147 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: you know, things like Zutope are still performing solidly and 148 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: Sidney Sweeney's Housemaid killing it one hundred and seven million 149 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: dollars from that. That is a hit. Sidney Sweeney has 150 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 2: a hit. Let's is it time to take a break, 151 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: and then we'll come back. We'll go over the top 152 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: ten and then maybe some movies that I saw. Does 153 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: that sounded like a good time? Is it a good 154 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: time to break? 155 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not? We can have an extended second segment. 156 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll and we've got some Oscar predictions coming 157 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: up too, uh, and we will take a break right now. 158 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood Joe Scolante live from Hollywood Sunday, 159 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: KiB eleven fifty on your AM dial if you're driving 160 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: around Los Angeles. If not, you got the iHeart app. 161 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: You can listen to it anywhere in the world. And 162 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: speaking of iHeart sam, last night was the iHeart Radio's 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: alter ego concert at the Fabulous Form, the Kiya Form, 164 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: featuring none other than Sublime. 165 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 3: Excellent. How was the show? 166 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: That was great? They put on a great show. It's 167 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: a very well run thing and iHeart is doesn't mess 168 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: around and just a very well produced, well oiled machine. 169 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: And of course Sublime did their part. Our crew got there. 170 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: I'm the manager of Sublime for listeners who don't know. 171 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: So the crew got there day before. I got everything 172 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: dialed in and it's like a short thirty five minute 173 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: set because it's a radio show. So you got Cage 174 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: the Elephant, you got Green Day, you got twenty one Pilots, 175 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: got gg perez A. Yeah, big success and for your 176 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: for I mean, you know, I've always been in this 177 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: tiny punk band, never going to play at the Forum. 178 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: I mean we could open for somebody and no one 179 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: would care. But you know, to have a band conquer 180 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: the Fabulous Forum. For me, it's a big deal because 181 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: of all the time I spent there as a youth 182 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: going to Laker games. Oh yeah, watching the Evil Globe 183 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: Trotter's cheat against the Generals a lot. 184 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 4: You and I had some similar experiences. I used to 185 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: sneak into Laker games at the Forum back in the day. 186 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: That's pretty bold. I would never even try that, and 187 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: then I would I would think that I could never 188 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 2: be on the Lakers if I got caught sneaking into 189 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: one of their games. 190 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: I would think that would give me a leg up. 191 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: But I know, back in the day at the Forum, 192 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: I used to That's how I got into radio was. 193 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: I used to sneak into games, and back in the day, 194 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 4: Chick Hern's the press box. Chick's nest was up in 195 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: the cheap seats, and me and my buddy would sneak in. 196 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: We would wear suits and ties, making it look like 197 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: we actually belonged and knew what we were doing walking 198 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 4: through the Forum club because that's where the press would 199 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 4: check in, and we would just stop at the table 200 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: and walk straight through. 201 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: No one never stopped us. 202 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: So for three years, from age fourteen through seventeen, I 203 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 4: snuck into every Laker home game. 204 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: Really, so you would go to like forty a year 205 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,239 Speaker 2: or Yeah, where did you live. 206 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: Back in the day. It was in a thousand Oaks. 207 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: Me and my buddy. His mom used to drive us 208 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: down back in the day and. 209 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: Then take go ahead and the little suits and do 210 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: some weird thing. And I'm good with that. 211 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: The way that. 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how his mom looked at it, but 213 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: my mom looked at it like, hey, when you come home, 214 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: if you're not smelling like. 215 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: Weed or alcohol, you're fine. 216 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: And they knew I was doing something that I was 217 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 4: interested in for my future career motivated. 218 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, I love that story. Yeah, it's hard to imagine. 219 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: I'm impressed sneaking into Laker games. 220 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: Wow, it was a lot of fun. 221 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's really good. I'm impressed by that. 222 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I've been in locker rooms with Michael Jordan. 223 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: Well, let's stop it right there. 224 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've interviewed Jordan, I've interviewed Jerry West back in 225 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: the day, Phil Jackson, all of the Lakers. I was 226 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: the game magic Johnson came back after five years after 227 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: his first retirement. I was snuck into that one. I 228 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: was I was in the I snuck into a lot 229 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 4: of Laker games at the forum. 230 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: What was your feeling on the Lakers series on HBO. 231 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: I read the books that a lot of that stuff 232 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 4: was based off of, and I liked that they included 233 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: some of the really dark, dirty secrets. 234 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: But it was obviously dramatized. 235 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: They wanted to get the best out of all of 236 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: the people performing in the show, so I thought it 237 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: was great. 238 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: It was it was nice cool. 239 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 2: Jerry West. 240 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: No, that's the thing. They had to dramatize a lot 241 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: of it, specifically Jerry West. They made him into like 242 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: this angry blake the bus yeah and journey us, and 243 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 4: he was Jerry West is synonymous with the Lakers, no 244 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: matter how much the Lakers tried to distance themselves from him. 245 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know they're they. I think they wronged them. 246 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: I think they did him dirty. I agree, Okay, but 247 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: I still enjoyed watching it because you know, I. 248 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: Have no that's a show I'm I'm really upset about 249 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: when the when the writer's strike happened and everything, that 250 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: show evaporated the set, Like the following seasons of that 251 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: show haven't come out, and I don't think they're in production. 252 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 2: Well, the writer's strike was just very well, I mean 253 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: ill conceived. You know, you have your your COVID and 254 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: then you have your writers strike, and I think that 255 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: did more harm than good. I think history will will show. 256 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do. Let's go to the 257 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: top movies. Avatar number one, as I said twenty eight 258 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: years later, the Temple of Bone is number Two's Topia 259 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: number three, house made four Marty Supreme five that has 260 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 2: made seven. Marty Supreme has only made seventy nine million dollars. 261 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? Zutopia has made three hundred and ninety 262 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: seventy nine million for what I think will be the 263 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: best picture. But I guess best pictures usually don't make 264 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: a lot. Greenland two Migration, Uh, and then Primate's that's 265 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: number six. Those are both tied for six. Primate's about 266 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: a monkey that you shouldn't have and. 267 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've seen the commercials for this one. Wasn't 268 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: this monkey shines? 269 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly? Greenland Migration? Do you know anything about this? 270 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: It's a sequel to Greenland following Jerrard Butler. Uh, and 271 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: this other lady, Marina Bucker and a survivors forced to 272 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: leave their bunker and cross a devastated Europe after the 273 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: comedy impact, It's kind of mid budget disaster film. Well, Greenland, 274 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: I wonder. I think it's getting a lot of play 275 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: because Greenland is in the news everything. 276 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say it was the comment 277 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: branded by Trump. 278 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, but it's uh yeah, it's 279 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: just weird. A lot of Greenland every day, which is 280 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: to me, I think I'm the only one I know, 281 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: or have ever known, there's been to Greenland. 282 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 3: I been, and nobody has. 283 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: Nobody has. You don't even know you're I'm the only 284 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: guy you know that has been to Greenland. 285 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 286 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because when I was in school in Iceland, 287 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: you know, I took a you could, you know, PLoP 288 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: down a couple of bucks and get a plane ride 289 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: over to Greenland. So I went over there and hung 290 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: out and you know, hung out with the Eskimos as 291 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: they are sometimes called. Uh but I'm looking forward to 292 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: owning that country. But I just hope it's done peacefully, Sam, 293 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: because I know those Greenlanders are looking for a change. 294 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: The people that live there, they've been like they've been 295 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: in a rut. For decades and decades, maybe hundreds of years, 296 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: and it's just like we have these overlords. They're called 297 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: the Danes, and they control how much alcohol we get 298 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: and we're sick of them. Now. If Trump can go 299 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: over there and dazzle them with an increase in their 300 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: alcohol rationing, which was going on when I was there, 301 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: I think he's got a winner. 302 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's a trade off. Take away health care, 303 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 3: give them alcohol. 304 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing about Native Americans and Native Greenland, 305 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: they don't live very long. They have free healthcare, you know, 306 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 2: they got the freest healthcare of anybody, but the like, 307 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: what's the average age of of a when they meet 308 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: their maker? I don't know. Okay, so let's go to 309 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: what I watched this week. I didn't get to the 310 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: theaters because I'm a very busy man, but I did 311 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: watch the Beach Boys documentary on Disney Plus and I 312 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: highly recommend it. 313 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: How lot the reason, I mean, obviously they've got a 314 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: tumultuous history. 315 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a family friendly, authorized version, so 316 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: it leans heavily into like the legacy and the harmony 317 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: of the of the of their relationship and the cultural 318 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: impact they had well kind of avoiding, you know, the 319 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: deeper conflicts, and there's some business disputes. They just don't 320 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: do well on it, but they do give you some 321 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: honest interviews, a little crying involved in the members while 322 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: they're telling their story. And Brian Wilson, of course is 323 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: not living any longer, but they have enough interviews with 324 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: him where you really get to know him. And is 325 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: made by Frank Marshall, who's a guy who made like 326 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: World of Jurassic World and stuff like that. So it's big. 327 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: It's big, it's a big deal. But the thing I 328 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: like the best about it is it explained to me 329 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: why I kind of the Beach Boy versus the Beatles thing. 330 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: And I think when when MTV came back, I was 331 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: so I was kind of sick of the Beatles because 332 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: everyone kept talking about the Beatles. This the Beatles, that 333 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 2: the Beatles getting back together? Are they not? What's the news? 334 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: And I just I just didn't like it. I mean, 335 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: of course I love the Beatles. Everybody loves the Beatles. 336 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: There's are great songs, but I got to say, I 337 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: like the Beach Boys better. And this really got into 338 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: and for me it was like, why why do I 339 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: like the Beach Boys better than the Beatles, and I 340 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: can't explain. I usually don't admit it, but this this 341 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: kind of made all the connections to things that I 342 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: like and things that spoke to me as a young. 343 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: Deal, like it was culturally more identifiable for you yet 344 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: boys Newcastle, Yeah, exactly. The difference between guys from like 345 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: surf bums were, you know, like versus you know, British 346 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: guys who haven't seen a day of warmth. 347 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: Yes, Vitamin D deficiencies versus people with plenty of vitamin D. Anyway, 348 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: maybe we'll talk a little bit more about it after 349 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: the break, but I highly recommend it. Joe Scalante Live 350 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: from Hollywood. Joe's Scalante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you 351 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: mean Burbane, but today I am high top of the 352 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: planet of the Tape Studios and beautiful Seal Beach and 353 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: just a little bit about more about the Beach Boys 354 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: documentary on Disney Plus. I mean you could, like, I 355 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: got Disney Plus again, I hadn't had it for a while, 356 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 2: got it on. I look around and I'm like, there's 357 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: a bunch of Beatles stuff, and then there's this Beach 358 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: Boys thing. And I turned on The Beach Boys thing 359 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: the first thing I did, and just just delightful documentary. 360 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: And it's a pretty cool to watch it right after 361 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: you watch the Manson document entry on Netflix, because they're 362 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: inter related, like so closely. You're just like, you know, 363 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: your Manson hook hooks up with Dennis Wilson from The 364 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: Beach Boys, and you hear it from the Manson perspective, 365 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: and then you hear it from the Dennis Wilson perspective. 366 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 4: Dennis Wilson, I did not expect you to go in 367 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: that direction now. 368 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. 369 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 5: So. 370 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 2: Dennis Wilson, you know, is the guy and the Beach Boys, 371 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: and you don't get this from the Manson documentary. You 372 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: don't understand it. But in the Beach Boys thing, the 373 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: Beach Boys are you know, clean cut, wearing striped shirts, 374 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: singing about surfing. And they kind of landed into it 375 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 2: kind of because it was happening and hippo at the time, 376 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: and it was a way for them to get gigs. 377 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: But Brian Wilson, it was capable of any kind of 378 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: musical production and composition, but it was this, you know, 379 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: they were from southern California. They didn't really surf, but 380 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: they were from the area, and surf films were being 381 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: played at their high schools and all the high schools 382 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: around in those dames surf films who played in high 383 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: school auditoriums. When I was a kid too, it's a 384 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: weird thing. 385 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: So people they would just start playing surf movies just. 386 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: Out of nowhere. Now they would guys that if you 387 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: made a surf film, you could schedule it to be 388 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: exhibited in these high school auditoriums anywhere. They're really cheap 389 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: to rent out, and you put out some flyers and 390 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: all the kids come because everybody wants to see another 391 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 2: surf movie. You can't get enough of them. Yeah, So 392 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: it was always happening. And the and this background music 393 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: with this was this surf you know, twangy vibrado guitar 394 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: that that resonated with the young kids. And they said, well, 395 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: that's this is cool music. Let's see if we can 396 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 2: start a band like this. And then they did and 397 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: then they started singing. But they were all kind of 398 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: just you know, suburban, normal kids. I kind of like me. 399 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm just a normal suburban kid growing up but close 400 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: enough to La where I could see the cultural changes 401 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: going on that would you know, I could, I could 402 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: dip into but I was still you know, raised by 403 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: you know, conservative Orange County parents, so I didn't really 404 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: get crazy. So I kind of identify with these guys. 405 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: So they're except for Dennis Wilson. Dennis Wilson was an 406 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 2: edgy guy who was a actual surfer. So he's an 407 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: actual surfer. He's got other guys aren't, so he's hanging 408 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: around with kind of different people. And then he's hanging 409 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: around with the inez they get famous. He's hanging around 410 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: with the Hollywood you know, pot smoking, drug taking culture 411 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: of Hollywood, like the Mamas and the papas and the 412 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: doors and the you know, these kind of Fleetwood Mac 413 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 2: Eagles type people, Laurel Canyon type people. But unlike the 414 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: other guys, I mean, Brian Wilson just in his studio 415 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: tweaking out, and the other guys are just a little 416 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: more normal, thinking about I'm gonna better go back to 417 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: my day job or go to school. Dennis Wilson is 418 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 2: just taking drugs and having a good time. Ends up 419 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 2: dying when he's like thirty nine years old, drowning from 420 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: being in the water down in the Marina Marina Delray, 421 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: I think somewhere around there. But anyway, the point I'm 422 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: trying to make is he ends up connecting into the 423 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: same world that Charles Manson is trying to get into. 424 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: Because Charles Manson, as we know, wanted to be a 425 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: rock star and he was trying to infiltrate this scene 426 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: and Dennis Wilson is maybe going to introduce him to 427 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: Terry Melcher, famous producer son of Doris Day, and so 428 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: he does introduce them, and that doesn't really work out 429 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: for Charles Manson because he has these songs. They're not 430 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 2: that good. But the Beach Boys did record one of them, 431 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: does it b Side? I can imagine he probably pressured 432 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: him too and come on, come on, comont and he's 433 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: using his mind control maybe, But so they did record 434 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: one and the rest of the band members, like Brian 435 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: Wilson said I met him once. Oh no, it was 436 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: I think Mike Love in the documentary saying, you know, 437 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: Dennis was hanging out with this guy. I met him 438 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: once and that was enough for me. And that's kind 439 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: of the difference between these Beach Boys. Mike Love is like, 440 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: that is enough for me. Dennis Wilson is like, Hey, Charlie, 441 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: come on, I'll induce you to this guy. Let's go 442 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 2: party here, party there. So Terry Melcher, Charles Manson knows 443 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: where Terry Meltcher lives. Obviously, he doesn't get a record deal. 444 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 2: He is disappointed and he's rejected by that world. So 445 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: he goes back to kill everyone in Terry Meltzer's house. 446 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: But Terry Melcher doesn't rent that house anymore, so he 447 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: kills the people in it. I think at that point 448 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 2: are the Folgers or whatever anyway, So that's taking your 449 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: fining about that side from the from the beach boys 450 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 2: point of view, and you get the hell the beach 451 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: boys weigh in on Charles Manson and then they're saying, 452 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: Dennis Wilson have never recovered from that because he introduced 453 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: Charles Manson into their social circle and he came in 454 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: and you know, slaughtered all those people and it was, 455 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 2: you know, one of the worst crimes in the history 456 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: of the country, and he felt a little bit responsible 457 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: for that. So that's interesting, and it's you know, he 458 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: had the one guy who was the one guy who 459 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 2: was took the hippie route and the drugs and the 460 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: party and dies at thirty nine, and you know, mixing 461 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: Charles Manson into the rest of the social scene and 462 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: the rest of the guys, you know, I think they 463 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: just like two different paths. Mike Love was still alive, 464 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: still playing with the Beach Boys, which you know, whatever 465 00:25:54,040 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: version he's got going now, and the the Dennis Wilson 466 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: is long gone. Brian Wilson is another story. So many 467 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: mental issues. It's kind of like Asperger's undiagnosed Aspergers. You 468 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: might say, I don't know what it is. I'm not 469 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: licensed to practice. 470 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: See, he seems to land just like many geniuses. They 471 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: land on the spectrum somewhere. 472 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 2: Yes, so he's classic that and so. But the rest 473 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: of the guys, you're pretty normal. And whenever I saw him, 474 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 2: I saw them. I saw Brian Wilson do the Pet 475 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 2: Sounds tour at the Hollywood Bowl a few years ago, 476 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: and he has Matt Jardine or Al Jardine is the 477 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: guy who does the high vocals in the Beach Boys. 478 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: I mean they all do high vocals, but Al Jardine's 479 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 2: doing the really high ones when you go see him now, And. 480 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: Dennis Wilson's vocals were high always, Yeah. 481 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, he well, I don't know they'd be high and low. 482 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: But the Dennis Will I mean, Jardine's doing these real 483 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: high ones when you see him now live, he handles those. 484 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: But what's really going on is his son, Matt Jaran 485 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: is behind in the backup vocal section. He's the one 486 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: that's really filling out those high sounds. And you can 487 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: see Matt Jardine in a band called the Surf City 488 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: All Stars that play around. You can see the Al 489 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: Jardine and I think even maybe even Bruce Johnston and 490 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: the Pet Sounds Band that all the musicians were in 491 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: the Pet Sounds Tour with Brian Wilson. They play in 492 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: a band called the Pet Sounds Band that you can 493 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: still see. And I'm telling people this because someday they'll 494 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: all be gone and you'll wonder, man, I could have 495 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: seen those guys. I wish I would have seen them 496 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: while they were alive. You know, nobody cared about him, 497 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: or like Neil Diamond, Like did you see Neil Diamond? 498 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: Now you see this movie, you can't see Neil Diamond. 499 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: He's got Parkinson's. Yeah, so I never saw Neil Diamond 500 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: kicking myself, but I do have tickets for January thirtieth, 501 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 2: this is my birthday at the Palm Springs Plaza Theater 502 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: to see Jim Croci the American Pie Fame. Never seen him. 503 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: So I try to take these guys off my list, 504 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: like the ones that are you know, it might be 505 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: the last time they're gonna tour or whatever. I just 506 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: go around and I just try to make sure I 507 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 2: see them, whether it's Wayne Newton or the Righteous Brothers 508 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 2: or even Donnie Osmond. You know, I went and saw 509 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: him recently really good. That's what I try to do. 510 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: And the Beach Boys, and I've seen him at Stagecoach recently. 511 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 2: I've seen him here and there. Tried to hire them 512 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: for a event recently. No one was buying into it. 513 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: With me and my team, it's just like going look 514 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: for X amount of money. I'm not gonna say I 515 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: much to his cost, but I did get a price. 516 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: We can have the Beach Boys that we're gonna be 517 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: hanging out with them and then and when they're gonna 518 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: be gone, and you're gonna be sorry you didn't listen 519 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: to me. So they will be sorry, Sam. I will 520 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: have my revenge. Yes, So that's on Disney Plus. And 521 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: another thing I started watching on Disney Plus is the 522 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: Imagineers series just called The Imagineers. And there's Disney documentaries everywhere, 523 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: you know, you kind of get sick of us. Another 524 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: Disney one, another Manson one, another Elvis one, but this 525 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: one and Disney Plus it's better than anything you're going 526 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 2: to see on YouTube. I like YouTube documentaries, but the 527 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: Disney Plus Imagineers thing. I just watched the first episode 528 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: today and it's just next level. Although I have one complaint. 529 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: Female documentary narrators don't do it for me. I need 530 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: David Attenborough, I need Morgan Freeman. I don't need Angela Bassett. 531 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: I don't need Megan Markle. That's just my personal preference. 532 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: You made you May, you made love female documentary narrators. 533 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: I don't. Let's take a break, come back with more 534 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: controversial statements on Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. 535 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 5: Joe as Cavante, here's my lawyer. 536 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: Hell yes, Joe Scalante here still alive. You can still 537 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: listen to Joe Scalantes live radio show because he's still alive. 538 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: You can see his band play My Morrissey Band this 539 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: week and Tender Hooligans is playing at the Great American 540 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: Music Hall on Friday with Tom Lennon from Reno nine 541 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: one one another play in the Odd Couple. It's part 542 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 2: of the Sketch Fest in San Francisco going on right now. 543 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: I believe it's starting, well, it's starting this week, and 544 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: uh there's going to be a lot of guests coming 545 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: up and performing with us. Anna Gasteire maybe you know her. 546 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, very much, Saturday Night Live mm. 547 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 2: Hmm, and what's ah another comedian Angela, Oh my god, 548 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: I forgot her name. It might come to me. Oh, 549 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: and then the singer of Death Cab for Cutie, He's 550 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 2: coming to perform with us, and uh much of other 551 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: comedians like Saturday Night Live people, Tom Lynn and it's 552 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: gonna be fun, excellent. And I'm still alive, so you know, 553 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta see me now. I don't have 554 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: any illnesses, so I can't really there's no urgency. 555 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 3: But Planet into your schedules. 556 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about let's not talk about Warner Brothers 557 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: and Discovery and Paramount. I'll just other than to say 558 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: this is how Paramount is going to is their latest 559 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: move to try to force Netflix to let to to 560 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: to force Warner Brothers to let them Paramount. I want 561 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: Warner Brothers. I want to buy you. I don't want 562 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: Netflix to buy you. That's basically how I can phrase it. 563 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: In fact, and since I want to buy you and 564 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: I want Netflix to buy you, I'm going to sue 565 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: you so that your shareholders will be demanding. I think 566 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 2: they like they get the shareholders do they buy stock, 567 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: and then they sue like a derivative shareholders suit. I'm 568 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: going to make you disclose how you evaluated Warner Brothers. 569 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: Or I guess they're suing Netflix. I'm going to just 570 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: or yeah, Warner Brothers, I sue Warner Brothers. I don't 571 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: know who they're suing, but they're they're trying to force 572 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: Warner Brothers to disclose how it's bored evaluated Netflix's offer. Yeah, 573 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: so there, and then they think if they do that, 574 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: everyone will look at it and go, that's not really 575 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: that doesn't add up. So we're gonna have We're going 576 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: to vote for Paramount to buy Warner Brothers instead of Netflix. 577 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: So that's just a corporate battle that I don't want 578 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: to talk about anymore. I want to get to the 579 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: bad celebrities. We talked about Chris Brown last week his 580 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: five hundred million dollar defamation case over a documentary that 581 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: was made about him on Against Warner Brothers Discovery. I 582 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: guess it was on Discovery I D which I used 583 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: to write for on a show called True Nightmares. If 584 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: you if you can find it in your thing, it's 585 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: really good of course because I wrote it. But they're 586 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: dropping it. I mean, the co says, no, there's nothing 587 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: here this documentary. People can do. They can say things 588 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: you haven't proved that they're not true. You got nothing. 589 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 2: It's done. So he's he's toast. He can refile, he 590 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: get appeal or whatever. Now, lamar Odom arrested here for 591 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: a duy in Las Vegas. You know about this here? 592 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: No, I didn't hear about that. 593 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: Yes, Laker legend yesterday, a Laker legend. He's in custody 594 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: right now. You know he might remember lamar Odom for 595 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 2: being in the Lakers and being married to Chloe Kardashian 596 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: for like seven years. They don't have any children together. 597 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: And then I got went down a rabbit hole about 598 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: Chloe Kardashian being O. J. Simpson's daughter. 599 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've heard about this. 600 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not substantiated in any way, but it's interesting 601 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: to look at the pictures and go. 602 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, kind of see it a. 603 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 2: Little Okay, Okay. There's another guy, Matt Procrop, arrested for 604 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: child pornography. He was the boyfriend. This is just happening 605 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: all this week. He was high school musical three. Probably 606 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 2: don't remember him, but you do remember his girlfriend, Sarah Hyland, 607 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 2: who is in a modern family and she had complained 608 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: about him, and it's a very public abusive relationship. And 609 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 2: now they've come after him for possession of child sexual 610 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 2: abuse material, along with a couple other violations. And so 611 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: that guy's in jail right now. But how about this one, 612 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: This is where we're going. Keither Sutherland, Keith for Sutherland 613 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 2: arrested January twelfth for getting in an altercation with a 614 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: uber driver or lyft, we don't really know, and escalated 615 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 2: into assault in criminal threats. Doesn't sound that bad, but 616 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: it was so bad, and it happened after midnight off 617 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: of Sunset Boulevard somewhere happened out that the police came 618 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: and arrested him. Like, I don't know how something like 619 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 2: it goes so wrong that you get in this tussle 620 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 2: or whatever, and you wait around for the police to 621 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: come in Los Angeles, and they actually come, and they 622 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: actually were arrest of celebrity. You can't talk your way 623 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 2: out of that or walk away, walk around the corner 624 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 2: and avoid arrest. And Joe Scalante talking about you on 625 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 2: his Bad Celebrity segment so very weird. It's one of 626 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: those things that it must have been pretty bad and 627 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: he must have been wasted if he stayed around. You know, 628 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 2: he feels like no one can get me, or I'm immune, 629 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: or I was in twenty four Yeah, I was in 630 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 2: the Lost Boys, Young Guns. Did anyone here see stand 631 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: by me? Few good men? Hands off me. Anyways, the 632 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: reason why this is interesting to me now, and I'm 633 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: kind of harping on it, is because at first the 634 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 2: article said he was he was gone in an altercation 635 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 2: to a driver and a ride hailing a ride hailing app, 636 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: a driver an app or I thought ride hailing. I 637 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 2: thought that meant like taxi, Like I'm going to hail 638 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: a taxi camp. No, it means an uber driver or taxi. 639 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: But then I got into taxi dancing. I started thinking 640 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: about that, and for most of the taxidaf dancing is 641 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: something like. It was a ticketed based system where patrons 642 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 2: would come into a ballroom and pay per dance, and 643 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 2: dancers earned commissions per song. Now, long after these ballrooms 644 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: shut down in Chicago and New York, Los Angeles remained 645 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 2: a small, discreete ecosystem of taxi dance clubs operating on 646 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: the margins of nightlife and legality. And I remember these 647 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: in the eighties. I knew girls that worked. I mean 648 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: I would date girls that like, you know, they'd go 649 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: to work. I'd drop them off with their taxi dancing 650 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 2: place and they'd sit. They it's not a sexual thing, 651 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 2: but it's on the border, you know, sporderline. And they 652 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 2: lasted in Los Angeles until the nineties. Like they were 653 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 2: primarily clustered in Hollywood and Koreatown and downtown LA and 654 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: some in the Valley. Many operated without alcohol. They relied 655 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: on cash ticket systems and employed dancers who were often immigrants, 656 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 2: working long shifts for per dance commissions. Earlier venues such 657 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: as Florentine Gardens in hollywoods which is still there once 658 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: one of the most famous dance halls in America, represented 659 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 2: the transitional era. While later, taxi dance clubs tended to 660 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: operate under vague names like dance studios or social clubs, 661 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 2: rarely advertising their true business models. You would drive by 662 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: these places, you didn't know what was going on inside. 663 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 2: Now why did they go away? Sam? There was There 664 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 2: was no single law that shut down the taxi dancing industry. Instead, 665 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: it came as accumulated pressure. In the late eighties, lapd 666 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: vice units started to increase enforcement, often citing these clubs 667 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: for public nuisance violations, lewd conduct, and operating outside their permits, 668 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 2: even when no prostitution was alleged. And then same time, 669 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: California label regulators were aggressively targeting these ticket commission model, 670 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: arguing that the dancers were employees entitled the wages, overtime, 671 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: workers compensation, blah blah blah. That'll get But once courts 672 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 2: and regulators treated taxi dancers as employees rather than independent contractors, 673 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 2: the economics collapsed. The per dance ticket system could not 674 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: survive California's oppressive wage and hour laws. Just an honest business, Sam, 675 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: and they ran it into the ground with their overregulation. 676 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: It should have unionized, They should have. 677 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 2: By the early nineteen nineties, Los Angeles taxi dance halls 678 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 2: closed quietly, one by one. No farewell signs, no final 679 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: court ruling, just locked doors and expired permits. Taxi dancing 680 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 2: did not disappear because the demand vanished those sam It 681 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: disappeared because the law finally outran it and the last 682 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 2: but Los Angeles, your hometown, the last city where the 683 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 2: practice still lived, ultimately becoming the place where taxi dancing 684 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 2: would go to its grave. 685 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 3: Why isn't there a documentary about this? And why aren't 686 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 3: we making it? 687 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: That? 688 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 4: I know, not my way, this sounds I mean seriously, 689 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 4: it would be a great look into a piece of 690 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 4: Los Angeles history, but also a piece of just dance history. 691 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 3: You can get into the roots of it, and you 692 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 3: can also talk about I mean, you can. 693 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 2: Make some TV shows like so you think you can 694 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 2: taxi dance, Yeah, taxi dancing with the Stars. I mean, 695 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of potential here. 696 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: So I'm the market. 697 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 2: Yes, it might create the demand. It could be like 698 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: a dapper like the Dapper people. They could bring it back. Yeah. Uh, anyway, 699 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: we're out of time, uh for this hour, and it's 700 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 2: the taxi dancing demise of taxi dancing presented to you 701 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: by Joe Scilate live in Hollywood. I'll work on a 702 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: documentary on that. I got a few documentaries so short 703 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: ones still under the UH, under the bell here that 704 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 2: that might see the light of day. And until next week, 705 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: I will leave you with just the taste of the 706 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 2: greatest song ever written. Thank you, Sam m