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Speaker 2: Good morning you two, Good morning, Good morning you guys.

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Speaker 1: Were fired up. I was talking about it earlier. You

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Speaker 4: We don't have it like kind of be rich friend,

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Speaker 6: People like this off of the streets of Governor Wallace's

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Speaker 7: Happy Freedom Friday, John Dave, Saint Louis Park. I did

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Speaker 8: Good morning, guys. One thing I've always wondered is what

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Speaker 1: Say never A dull moment around this place, right, So

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Speaker 2: Because something bad has happened.

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Speaker 3: Undoubtedly more people will get hurt if not.

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Speaker 1: this to our point. Minnesota State Senator Bobby Joe Champion

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Speaker 1: attempted to defend men who jumped in to assault the

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Speaker 1: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agent on Wednesday, claiming that it

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Speaker 1: was a clear example of Minnesotan's pitching in to help

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Speaker 1: our neighbors. Now, he was on CNN's Show with Laura Coates.

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Speaker 2: Is that you say your name?

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Speaker 9: Do we know?

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Speaker 2: Do we care?

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Speaker 1: I don't care to discuss the scene that unfolded a

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Speaker 1: Wednesday when the ICE agent chased down the suspect who

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Speaker 1: was leave to have been Venezuelan here illegally, and two others,

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Speaker 1: one of whom was wielding a shovel and joined the

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Speaker 1: suspect in assaulting the agents. We'll get more to more

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Speaker 1: of your talkbacks in a moment, but you know when

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Speaker 1: he talks about whether or not you know we help

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Speaker 1: our neighbors, well, what would happen if they used weapons

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Speaker 1: to attack the officer? Would have change your opinion. Here's

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Speaker 1: what Bobby Joe Champion had to say.

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Speaker 9: If there were neighbors and others who came out to

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Speaker 9: help this person. That is just an example of Minnesota

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Speaker 9: being a place where we help our neighbors. And we

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Speaker 9: are clear that the ICE agents have been coming here

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Speaker 9: and there's.

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Speaker 2: Over two thousand of them and they've.

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Speaker 9: Been attacking and terrorizing our state. So yes, neighbors will

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Speaker 9: come out and be helpful. I'm not certain if they

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Speaker 9: had brooms or shovel help. That is to be further investigated.

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Speaker 1: Helpful to in Vena's made only illegal alien who's evading arrest,

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Speaker 1: by the way, running on foot away from the Ice agents.

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Speaker 2: Will play more of the audio here.

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Speaker 6: They did in fact have some sort of weapons to

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Speaker 6: use to attack the ICE officer.

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Speaker 9: Would that change your opinion of whatever unfolded next? Actually, no, right,

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Speaker 9: because from our vantage point, we wanted to make sure

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Speaker 9: and always wanted to make sure that Minnesotans are being

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Speaker 9: dealt with properly. And when we think in terms of

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Speaker 9: any pursuit or any apprehension of anyone, there's a way

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Speaker 9: for you to do your work whereas respectful and it's fair.

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Speaker 9: We unfortunately have seen Ice not be respectful, not be fair,

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Speaker 9: but to be illegal and to attack and to be

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Speaker 9: very aggressive with Minnesotans. And to see that the federal

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Speaker 9: government has made a decision to attack and send more

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Speaker 9: and more agency here and allow them.

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Speaker 11: To be.

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Speaker 9: Allow them to misbehave. We think that's a tragedy and

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Speaker 9: a travesty. You're fascinating to talk to It called a

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Speaker 9: Trump derangement problem.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard about that problem?

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Speaker 1: R and C Committeeman Akkamorrow's making his way up on

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Speaker 1: a Freedom Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's a dark outside. It does get snow to day,

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Speaker 2: but not as much as we thought. Right, Everyone is.

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Speaker 4: Always like there's gonna be a blizzard and then there's

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Speaker 4: not usually a blizzard.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, people don't.

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Speaker 1: Learn in Minnesota and Catherine Johnson, they usually sound just

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Speaker 1: like that, at least they do with my head. Grace

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Speaker 1: Keating is also here from the American Experiment podcast outs

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Speaker 1: every Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Let's go here. So this dropped this morning.

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Speaker 1: I've only seen this on one website, and I had

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Speaker 1: to do a double take because, as I've mentioned a

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Speaker 1: few times this morning, it was this particular incident that

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Speaker 1: I had probably the most contact from foes of the show,

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Speaker 1: saying this was proof of what Ice was doing and

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Speaker 1: targeting Indivision Jewels, not because they were here illegally, but

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Speaker 1: because the color of their skin. The president of the

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Speaker 1: Ogala Sioux tribe has walked back the claims that he

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Speaker 1: made in a memo and press release earlier this week

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Speaker 1: that immigration enforcement arrested four tribal members and that the

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Speaker 1: federal government tried to extract an immigration agreement out of

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Speaker 1: the tribe in order to out of the tribe in

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Speaker 1: return for information about their members whereabouts, and that.

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Speaker 2: Was the other part of this.

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Speaker 10: Huh.

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Speaker 1: There was this whole idea that they had arrested these

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Speaker 1: four tribal members who were allowed to be here because

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Speaker 1: they were a part of the Ogala Sioux tribe, and

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Speaker 1: that the federal government was trying to come up with

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Speaker 1: an immigration agreement to sort of justify the arrest of

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Speaker 1: these Native Americans. I got inundated with emails, I had

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Speaker 1: talkbacks that rolled in. And when that happened, it was

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Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday this week. I got online because I

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Speaker 1: was skeptical of the whole thing because I hadn't heard

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Speaker 1: any local reporting on our news outlets. It was a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of other credible you know, CBSABC, NBC, but

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Speaker 1: it was all outside of It was sort of outside

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Speaker 1: the realm of the core news outlets. And I went

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Speaker 1: online and this story was all over X within the

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Speaker 1: liberal circles being pushed out there about what Ice is doing.

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Speaker 1: This is the dangers of what Ice is doing. And

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Speaker 1: my spidy senses were tingling the whole time. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta wait to see what the official word is

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Speaker 1: from the Department of Homeland Security. Now they said that

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Speaker 1: it can't verify claims that any of the officers arrested

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Speaker 1: or even encountered members of the Ogaulasu tribe or found

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Speaker 1: anyone in their detention centers claiming to be a tribal member.

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Speaker 1: They denied asking the tribe for any kind of agreement.

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Speaker 1: The tribal president, whose name is Frank Star comes out,

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Speaker 1: that is his name, okay, Which makes it really confusing

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Speaker 1: when you're reading the article, because the sentences start with

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Speaker 1: Star comes out said Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: What well, that's yeah, huh yeah, I'm like I was

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Speaker 3: so little trippy.

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Speaker 1: Star comes out also said what I don't anyway, So

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Speaker 1: the accusations of the arrests came at a time when

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Speaker 1: many Native Americans, the story from the AP says, are

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Speaker 1: already concerned over the Trump administration's immigration and enfortumate agenda

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Speaker 1: and racial profiling by federal agents ensnaring them as well,

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Speaker 1: and as some tribes have grappled with whether to engage

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Speaker 1: in agreements with dhs tied to the crackdown. Now, when

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Speaker 1: the tribal president, Frank Starr comes out, he has not

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Speaker 1: responded to repeated requests for comments, including after his updated

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Speaker 1: memo was released on Thursday. So in the memo, Star

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Speaker 1: comes out said again, that's his name. At night, good

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Speaker 1: morning aka Star comes out said his earlier statement had

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Speaker 1: been doing that thing with my fingers misinterpreted and that

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Speaker 1: there was no such demand from federal officials, even though

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Speaker 1: he had shotgunned this EveryWare. He said that the tribe

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Speaker 1: had been in cooperative communications with federal officials about the issue,

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Speaker 1: and that the federal officials said that one option for

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Speaker 1: the tribe to have easier access to information is to

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Speaker 1: enter in with an immigration agreement. So that's where the

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Speaker 1: immigration agreement came from. So you have this claim by

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Speaker 1: the Ogalazu tribe that these individuals had been arrested.

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Speaker 2: DHS is saying, we don't have any.

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Speaker 1: Members of any tribes in any of you know, any

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Speaker 1: Native Americans in custody, but if you want, we can

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Speaker 1: create a joint agreement so that you are made aware

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Speaker 1: if we end up arresting anybody.

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Speaker 3: Seems like a good idea, that's nice, but that had.

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Speaker 1: Got completely thrown out there at a false narrative that

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Speaker 1: suddenly now ICE had arrested legal citizens. That's the claim

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Speaker 1: that was being made by so many individuals the Department

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Speaker 1: of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 2: By the way, right, they said.

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Speaker 1: He also said the tribe was working with tribal, state

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Speaker 1: and federal officials to verify the reports that tribal members

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Speaker 1: living in Minneapolis were arrested by ICE earlier in the week.

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Speaker 1: He said that he had been made aware that ICE

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Speaker 1: had detained for Ogalla Sioux tribal members in Minneapolis and

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Speaker 1: that the tribe had their first names. He called the

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Speaker 1: arrests a treaty violation. The Department of Homeland Security pushback, saying,

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Speaker 1: we have not encountered any claims by any individuals in

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Speaker 1: our detention centers that they are members of the Ogalla

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Speaker 1: Sioux tribe, and they were not able to verify that

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Speaker 1: their officers arrested anybody from the tribe. ICE did not

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Speaker 1: ask for any the tribe for any kind of agreement.

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Speaker 1: We simply asked for basing conformation on the individuals, such

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Speaker 1: as the names, the date of birth, so that we

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Speaker 1: can run a proper check to provide them with the facts.

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Speaker 1: According to the Department of Homeland Security spokesperson, let me

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Speaker 1: make one more point here, ICE did not have anybody

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Speaker 1: in custody, They had no evidence of it, and they

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Speaker 1: went out of their way to try to work with

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Speaker 1: the tribe to establish a baseline of communication and ask

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Speaker 1: them what are the names of the individuals so that

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Speaker 1: we can double check for you to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we did not inadvertently go and arrest anybody. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about my guests and studio this morning, Grace Keat

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Speaker 1: and Catherine Johnson and ak Kamara. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't sound like this Nazi authoritarian force that's

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Speaker 1: out there just arresting people randomly.

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Speaker 2: This sounds like a department of.

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Speaker 1: The federal government that's more than willing to make sure

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Speaker 1: that they are doing the right thing while they carry

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Speaker 1: out their lawful law enforcement.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's that's quite literally what this federal agency

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Speaker 11: has been doing forever. I just think it's important for

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Speaker 11: people to have like the correct framing and a happy

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Speaker 11: New Year to you, miss Catherine does. So here's here's

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Speaker 11: the I said happy new here last week because you were.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was truly offendive.

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Speaker 4: That for.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, Grace, your top live. So here's the deal. The

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Speaker 11: framing is there are two groups. One group just hates

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Speaker 11: Donald Trump and they're using the idea of having increased

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Speaker 11: federal presence to be able to gain political power from

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Speaker 11: the Democrat base. That's one of the operating principles. The

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Speaker 11: other operating principle people that are ideologically fundamentally against the

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Speaker 11: idea of enforcing immigration and border policies because they are progressives, Marxists,

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Speaker 11: and even honestly, like some like ain Randian libertarians, think

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Speaker 11: the idea of having a border and restricting the movement

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Speaker 11: of free people is a bad thing. I think that

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Speaker 11: the majority of the nonsense that you see is seated

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Speaker 11: by the group that just is they're Marxists or hardcore libertarians.

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Speaker 11: That's who's seeding these stories, and then all of the

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Speaker 11: people that are on the side that just hate Donald

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Speaker 11: Trump continue to push and foment those ideas. Because if

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Speaker 11: you break it down and you ask the average Minnesotan,

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Speaker 11: even average Democrat voter, do you think we should enforce

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Speaker 11: our borders, they're gonna say yeah. So they're not ideologically

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Speaker 11: against the idea of having a border, or even they're

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Speaker 11: not even ideologically against the idea of removing criminal aliens,

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Speaker 11: but they do have this idea pumped into their brain

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Speaker 11: that Donald Trump is an evil fascist. So in this story, yeah,

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Speaker 11: ice of course, this is what they do all the time.

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Speaker 11: They want to work with federal agencies because in the truth,

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Speaker 11: there's not enough federal agents that have enough background information

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Speaker 11: on all of these localities. They want to work with

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Speaker 11: local cops, they want to work with the tribes to

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Speaker 11: make this as painless as possible to go and remove

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Speaker 11: the illegal aliens. But the democrats and the ideologues, they

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Speaker 11: will do everything in their power to stop this from happening.

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Speaker 4: Well, it reminds me of the school narrative where you'll

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Speaker 4: see people out there on the left now saying.

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Speaker 3: ICE is going into schools.

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Speaker 4: That's completely untrue, and it stems from this situation at

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Speaker 4: Roosevelt High School where a person that they were chasing

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Speaker 4: ended up on the grounds in the parking lot of

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Speaker 4: the school after a five mile chase. That's where he stopped,

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Speaker 4: and so they arrested him there, and teachers came out

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Speaker 4: to start attacking ICE agents.

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Speaker 3: And so now the narrative is ICE is in the schools.

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Speaker 3: They moved to these like you know, adjacent things and this, okay,

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Speaker 3: we'll go with that narrative. And they're complete lies.

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Speaker 4: They're found it on just like a tiny bit of

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Speaker 4: a tiny bit of a story that they turned into

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Speaker 4: a lie and run with.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy because if you are not plugged in

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Speaker 5: and paying attention in Minnesota, like if if you're a

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Speaker 5: person who just doesn't care about politics that much. You

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Speaker 5: hear that ice is going into schools, you don't believe

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Speaker 5: it at face value. Like if you hear from enough people,

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Speaker 5: and I've seen this from people in my life, you

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Speaker 5: will just kind of assume that that's the truth and

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Speaker 5: you won't do the extra legwork to fact check it.

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Speaker 5: And that's what is so scary about the story about

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Speaker 5: the tribal leader, because if DHS had not come out

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Speaker 5: and fact checked him, would this have his plan just

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Speaker 5: to build up this narrative and have it run unshocked

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Speaker 5: and do a bunch of damage until someone called him

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Speaker 5: on it?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what was his plan here?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: And and again the story's out there and people aren't

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Speaker 1: going to go search for the truth exactly, You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna see.

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Speaker 3: The damage has been done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the damage has been done. And to that point,

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Speaker 2: this is hysterical.

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Speaker 1: These talkbacks came in at exactly the same time, both

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Speaker 1: at seven forty seven. Okay, back to back, So we'll

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Speaker 1: start with the Uh, we'll start with the first one,

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Speaker 1: and we'll hear from Larry Hey.

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Speaker 4: John.

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Speaker 10: The big problem is that you just gave an explanation

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Speaker 10: and actually looked into the story. People aren't willing to

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Speaker 10: take the time on the left to do that. They

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Speaker 10: just see the headline that some ogo Wallas Sue were arrested.

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Speaker 10: They're American citizens, and they lose their mind.

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Speaker 9: Oh, look at stop there arresting American citizen.

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Speaker 2: That's how they also sound.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So here's so that one came in seven forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Also at seven forty seven, Eric from.

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Speaker 11: BRAINERD what is Eric from brainer not sure why you

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Speaker 11: guys are blindly agreeing with the federal government of the

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Speaker 11: Department of Homeland Security on anything.

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Speaker 1: I just stop, I mean, And then he goes to

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Speaker 1: talk about Christy Nome and the initial the initial statements

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Speaker 1: from Christy Noman Donald Trump when the first reports came

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Speaker 1: out of Nicole Renee Good. And I've said multiple times

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Speaker 1: on the show that that was framed completely inappropriately in

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Speaker 1: the way that you know, he was run over, Trump

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Speaker 1: had said, and all but again to the point, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter these individuals.

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Speaker 2: There is no helping them.

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Speaker 1: They're stuck in with their Trump derangement syndrome, and they

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Speaker 1: refuse to go and lift themselves out of it, even

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Speaker 1: in the wake of the truth.

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Speaker 2: So I go back and forth on Eric from Brainerd.

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Speaker 11: If he's using a voice modulator, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 11: a pickleball playing middle aged woman using a voice modulator,

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Speaker 11: or or I think.

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Speaker 2: It's possible that he is.

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Speaker 11: Like I said, the two different camps of people, people

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Speaker 11: that just hate Trump for political power and people that

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Speaker 11: are ideologus. He might be an ein Randian libertarian. And

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Speaker 11: again they're there the where they just hate everything about

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Speaker 11: the federal government. They hate the idea of Donald Trump

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Speaker 11: because he whatever supports Israel and for.

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Speaker 2: Whatever he's online.

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Speaker 11: Iranian libertarians hate Israel and Jewish people, and not specifically

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Speaker 11: the Jewish people, but they attach it. But I just

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Speaker 11: want to point out the irony here of like this

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Speaker 11: entire argument about the Native American indigenous people. Again, I

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Speaker 11: grew up devils like North Dakota ten miles from Spiritla Reservation.

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Speaker 11: If the Indigenous people of America had immigration border controls

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Speaker 11: and ICE agents, they would have never been conquered. So

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Speaker 11: they should be in favor of vice, because do they

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Speaker 11: want to be conquered twice?

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Speaker 3: Come on now, Also, just don't really get the premise.

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Speaker 4: Should they never be arrested if they were doing something

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Speaker 4: wrong it's like, oh my gosh, a Native American was arrested.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're just like everyone else. Okay, we're open borders,

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Speaker 2: free piece and love.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into more of this.

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Speaker 1: I've got six clips from the Minneapolis City Council meeting

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, these are stunning. We'll get to these next hour.

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Speaker 1: Want to share this story because I'm sensing, just in

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Speaker 1: my experience, that this is going to be the next

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Speaker 1: story that will be attempted to, that will be used

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Speaker 1: in an attempt to make Ice look bad. And I'm

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Speaker 1: just telling everybody right now, give it pause, wait until

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Speaker 1: the details come out.

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Speaker 2: Because I went searching for in the Native American story.

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Speaker 2: I went searching.

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Speaker 1: I spent a good hour looking to get further background

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Speaker 1: into that story, and I couldn't find any beyond just

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Speaker 1: that initial reporting. And that's why I waited on it,

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Speaker 1: because I wanted to see and of course, we just

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Speaker 1: laid out what happened.

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Speaker 2: A man who became caught up.

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Speaker 1: This is from bringing me the news, and it's on

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Speaker 1: all of the local Its on Channel five and Carol

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Speaker 1: Levin and Fox nine. I'm working off the one from

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Speaker 1: bringing the news. A man who became caught up in

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Speaker 1: the protests that followed on the ice shooting. A man

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Speaker 1: in North Minneapolis on Wednesday says a law enforcement officer

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Speaker 1: through flash bangs and tear gas at his vehicle, which

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Speaker 1: contained six children. The man, whose name has not been shared,

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Speaker 1: was interviewed by media outlets including Fox nine and Sky

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Speaker 1: News in the aftermath of Wednesday night shooting. He told

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Speaker 1: interviewers he was trying to leave the area with his

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Speaker 1: wife and his six kids, who are aged six months

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Speaker 1: to two four year olds, a seven and an eleven

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Speaker 1: year old.

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Speaker 3: Oh a devout Catholic maybe.

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Speaker 1: When their minivan came under attack. Must be a big

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Speaker 1: minivan too, need a lot of space.

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Speaker 2: They said.

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Speaker 1: The officer knew I was trying to leave, and they

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Speaker 1: threw three flash bangs at my car, hitting the outside,

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Speaker 1: of outside and under my car. He said that his

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Speaker 1: vehicle then began filling with smoke. All six of the

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Speaker 1: children were taken to local hospital by paramedics. It's not

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Speaker 1: clear that what the agency what agency the officer who

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Speaker 1: allegedly threw the flash bangs represents, with multiple agencies both city, state,

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Speaker 1: and federal at the scene following the shooting. The man's

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Speaker 1: wife posted on social media that they had just left

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Speaker 1: their kids basketball game, stopped at a grocery store. We're

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Speaker 1: heading home when they noticed the commotion around the scene

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Speaker 1: of the shooting and stopped to ask questions and saw

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Speaker 1: her mother out there protesting.

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Speaker 2: Wait a second, Wait a minute, and hold on back.

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Speaker 2: Let me back up here. Let me make sure I

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Speaker 2: got that right.

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Speaker 1: So the wife posted on social media they left the

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Speaker 1: basketball game, stopped at a grocery store, We're heading home

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Speaker 1: when they noticed the commotion around the scene of the shooting,

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Speaker 1: stopped to ask questions and saw her mother out there protesting.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, fascinating. Well that took a took a turn.

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Speaker 1: The woman says her mother has congestive heart failure and

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Speaker 1: we were trying to get her to go home so

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Speaker 1: that nothing would happen to her. Brig me. The news

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Speaker 1: reached out to Minneapolis Police and Handn't been County to

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Speaker 1: see if they can shed more light on the incident.

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Speaker 2: My senses and.

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Speaker 1: I think with everybody in the room that probably that

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Speaker 1: little detail there at the end probably played.

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Speaker 2: A large part the entire part of it, Babe, This

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Speaker 2: whole thing played out.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So they got the protest family and They're like,

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Speaker 11: they're taking our neighbors. Get down here, and they're like,

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Speaker 11: we just got down to the basketball game.

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Speaker 2: We're coming down.

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Speaker 11: We're gonna use our kids as shields because we're derange leftists.

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Speaker 2: That says my thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye, keep an eye on the story because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's going to be more details that come out.

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Speaker 1: But again, these are the types of stories. They get

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Speaker 1: thrown out there, just like the Richfield target story that

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Speaker 1: that was that that was the other big one that

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Speaker 1: was going around seventeen year old's and listen to no

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Speaker 1: fault of the friends of the show, but I had

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Speaker 1: people that were friends of the show that we're reaching

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Speaker 1: out going you know, I'm all support of Ice. But

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Speaker 1: if this story is true and this seventeen year old

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Speaker 1: is being arrested, then I have big problems.

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Speaker 2: And I tell every single one of them just waits.

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Speaker 3: Man, not fall for the bait. It is bait to

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Speaker 3: get you to switch and be angry. It's right.

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Speaker 4: The next one you have to look into John is

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Speaker 4: the guy who's out there claiming he's gone blind from Ice.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen this?

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Speaker 2: I saw that one yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I think you should I got a little one of

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Speaker 4: U spoity cents on that one, and I feel like

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Speaker 4: we should wait on that and see see what comes out.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing, because these are not unmotivated or unbiased

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Speaker 5: reports coming in. There is an agenda here with all

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Speaker 5: of these stories coming out, and so it's that could

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Speaker 5: be true. I don't know, but after every other story

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Speaker 5: that's been disproven or misconstrued or major details covered up,

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Speaker 5: the credibility of the entire base.

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Speaker 2: Just drops coming up.

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Speaker 1: We're going to turn our attention to the Minneapolis a

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Speaker 1: city clown sol They did have a meeting yesterday.

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Speaker 2: They are pushing for an eviction moratorium.

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Speaker 1: Now this is something that they wanted for a long

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Speaker 1: time anyways, but they're using the controversy now saying that

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Speaker 1: because of the fear that's been instilled within the community

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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, people are stuck in their homes, they cannot

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Speaker 1: go to work, and therefore they cannot pay their bills,

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Speaker 1: in which case they may be inadvertently evicted. But the

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Speaker 1: speakers have to be heard. We have the audio for you,

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Speaker 1: and the Minneapolis City Attorney's office did email staff inviting

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Speaker 1: them to a special event for those individuals within the

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis City government that may be dealing with trauma. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going to share the details of what the special

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Speaker 1: event entails and we'll touch spoiling it.

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Speaker 2: It's my teas there.

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Speaker 1: Ak Kamara, RNC Committeeman in studio, Catherine Johnson, Grace Keating

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Speaker 1: for American Experiment, and you and your talkbacks from the

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app coming up on Twin Cities News Talk AM

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty and one oh three five FM.

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Speaker 7: Hey John, My question regarding that story in the minivan

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Speaker 7: with the children, was it actually an ice officer or

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Speaker 7: was it one of the protesters that kicked or threw

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Speaker 7: something that the ice officers had deployed in their direction?

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Speaker 7: And was it a flash bang or was it rather

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Speaker 7: a smoke grenade that they've been using as well to

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Speaker 7: try to disperse the crowds.