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Speaker 1: Tony Pike Sincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati, sponsored

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Speaker 1: in part by Skyline Chili. Stop by Skyline Chili for

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Speaker 1: a three way or cheese cony today.

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Speaker 2: Feeling good?

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Speaker 1: It's Skyline time. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati sports station.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Do not adjust your dials. We're actually back.

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Speaker 3: We're actually here on air.

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Speaker 4: A full three hours. Wow, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable ticket. Thank you to Kentucky basketball. A couple wins

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Speaker 3: in the SEC tournament and we don't get to talk.

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Speaker 4: For three days. That's Tony Pike. I'm Austin Elmore. This

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Speaker 4: is Tony Pike's Cincy three to sixty.

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Speaker 3: How nice is this just to be back to be

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Speaker 3: talking sports.

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Speaker 4: I forgot what your voice sounded like. Three full hours.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We're not getting cut off by a pregame show. We're

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Speaker 3: not getting booted because of a game.

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Speaker 4: Well until Friday.

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Speaker 3: Until Friday, when Kentucky plays their first round game at

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Speaker 3: twelve thirty.

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Speaker 4: They play pretty good when they play in the middle

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Speaker 4: of the day. Yes, so, man, they use our spot block.

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Speaker 4: Maybe this is good news. Up against Santa Clara three

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Speaker 4: and a half point favorite. That's a small, small margin,

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Speaker 4: only three and a half. It's three and a half. Wow,

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Speaker 4: a small margin for the seven to ten game. That's right.

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Speaker 3: We're talking seating, we're talking march madness. We're talking a

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Speaker 3: tournament bracket which was revealed last night, and now we

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Speaker 3: to do a lot on this Monday, because not only

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Speaker 3: only do we have to talk about last night's World

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Speaker 3: mock draft Monday. What else happened over the weekend? FC

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati big losers, Oh my god, And I think it

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Speaker 4: Grand Canyon Mule up there on the natural grass at

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Speaker 3: Some might say, who was that f C Cincinnati played

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Speaker 4: Ago, some team from the Dominican Republic.

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Speaker 3: It felt like that's who f C Cincinnati was yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Tough to find a win if you're the Dominican Republic

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Speaker 4: right now, because they too lost last night, boy in

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Speaker 4: the World Baseball Classic on just a great call at

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Speaker 4: That's what Mason Miller did, and we sent the Dominicans home.

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Speaker 3: Packing the red, the white, the blue is on an

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Speaker 4: I saw I just saw an Instagram post from show Heyotani,

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Speaker 4: didn't get the results I wanted, and I feel my insignificance. Wow,

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Speaker 4: I think it was. Julio Rodriguez said that as well.

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Speaker 4: David Bednar doing a lot of as Craft impersonations. Yep,

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Speaker 4: let me load up these bases and then get out

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Speaker 3: Junior Camon Arow, who had an unbelievable World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of college hoops news going on right

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Speaker 4: Penny's back player from Alabama got arrested. Yes, yeah, drug possession.

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Speaker 3: Thad Mada, former Ohio State coach, Xavier coach, he's the

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Speaker 4: He's retiring. Bad's hanging it up, Bad's hanging it out.

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Speaker 3: But Penny Hardaway is not he's going back to Memphis.

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Speaker 3: But we'll talk about the bracket, talk about the Miami

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Speaker 4: By the way, we are doing a tournament challenge that's

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Speaker 4: right for since e three sixties. This is simple. I

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Speaker 4: just retweeted the link. You can find it at audio More.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully Tony will I just did out as well. I

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Speaker 4: just did. It's the Tony Pikes since the three sixty

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Speaker 4: bracket challenge. You click the link, you enter the pass code.

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Speaker 4: The pass code is Tony Pike's pass key, and we'll

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Speaker 4: we don't have a sponsor Pride. Here's no prize up

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Speaker 4: for this is love of the game. Love of the game,

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Speaker 4: and it's Pride love of the game. We have fun

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Speaker 4: doing it every year. Right now, we've already got I

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Speaker 3: When do you start filling a bracket out? Because I

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Speaker 4: I filled one out last night. Wow. Yeah, Okay. I

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Speaker 4: I've paid attention for the last couple of weeks and

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Speaker 4: based off of those two weeks, have made my selections. Okay,

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Speaker 4: I do have Miami beating SMU in the first four.

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Speaker 3: Sean Miller might as well get residency in Dayton. Xavier

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Speaker 3: When we come back from our first break.

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Speaker 4: How'd it go? Man?

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Speaker 3: It was awesome?

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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Speaker 4: pretty simple. It's either you make the tournament or you're

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Speaker 4: not the coach anymore. And even though they played really

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Speaker 4: good down the stretch and they had those moments in

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Speaker 4: that UF game, it showed what we've seen so many

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Speaker 4: times over the course of his tenure. When they needed

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00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: a bucket in the biggest moment, they couldn't get one.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't overcome those deficiencies, they couldn't put themselves in

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Speaker 4: a better position. And so for me, the goalposts never

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Speaker 4: moved and they don't make the NCAA tournament. So it's

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Speaker 4: time to move on, and I think Wes will land

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Speaker 4: on his feet. I think he'll have opportunities. I think

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Speaker 4: it was really classy based off the reports, I don't

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Speaker 4: know that we've seen anything official yet that he and

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Speaker 4: the university are going to make this official after April first, yep.

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Speaker 4: And he's going to leave money on the table because

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Speaker 4: he wanted things to go amicably and to leave on

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Speaker 4: good terms. I think UC fans should be extremely appreciative

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Speaker 4: of that. I think the UC program should be extremely

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Speaker 4: appreciative of that, And I think that's a classy thing

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Speaker 4: to do. Wish it would have gone differently, but I

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Speaker 4: understand that if you are the program that you say

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Speaker 4: you are, and you want to be that program moving forward,

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Speaker 4: you just can't sell that to fans. You can't sell

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Speaker 4: that to season ticket holders, you can't sell that to donors,

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Speaker 4: you can't sell it to boosters, you can't sell it

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Speaker 4: to sponsors. That that's the guy we're going to move

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Speaker 4: forward with again. Yeah, and so for that reason and

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Speaker 4: winning being paramount, I think you have to move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't really know what the direction

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Speaker 3: will be next. I know, at least too, I think

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Speaker 3: I like and I think it's the contingent of Bearcat fans.

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Speaker 3: The name Jared Calhoun has been thrown around a lot.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Calhoun is a head coach at Utah State. They have

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Speaker 3: another conference title. They were seeded I thought very unfairly

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Speaker 3: as a nine seed. But Jared Calhoun was a graduate

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Speaker 3: from the University of Cincinnati in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 3: He coached on the staff under Bob Huggins for the

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bearcats, and he has been extremely, extremely successful and

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Speaker 3: has done things at Utah State with very minimal resources

475
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Speaker 3: that it's hard to do in today's college basketball. He

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Speaker 3: is my number one, my number two, and my number

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Speaker 3: three After that, I think the list could get dicey

478
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Speaker 3: and Austin. That's the thing to me that makes this interesting.

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Speaker 3: I think Jared Calhoun is a home run. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how many doubles and triples are after him if

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Speaker 3: it gets to it, though. Yeah, right, I guess that's

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Speaker 3: that's the hard part.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like those one or two linebackers ye're

484
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Speaker 4: available in free man.

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Speaker 3: That guy is a home run grand slam. The guy

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Speaker 3: next might be a single, might be all. I haven't

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Speaker 3: dove into it as much because for me, it's Calhoun

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Speaker 3: or bust right now. You got to go big if

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Speaker 3: you're John Cunningham and the University of Cincinnati. Or what

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00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: we could do is we go today Austin. We could

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Speaker 3: throw out names of coaches that you just got to

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Speaker 3: make say.

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Speaker 4: No, Well, I'm not gonna lie to you. The went

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Speaker 4: over to our friends at Bearcat Journal, yea and checking

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Speaker 4: out the board and some of the names that are

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Speaker 4: on there. By the way, I mean Chad and Keegan

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Speaker 4: in those guys, this is good for this is good

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Speaker 4: for business for them when it comes to a coaching change.

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Speaker 3: Careful though, because he's talking about the World Baseball Classic

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Speaker 3: last night and sending out photos and people are thinking

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Speaker 3: that that's because you see like they're zero in our coach. Really,

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Speaker 3: he's just talking about Aaron Judges' throat.

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Speaker 4: Well, what's going on with Keegan is this is a

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00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 4: brilliant social media strategy. Keegan's a blue check mark guy,

505
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 4: much like myself, and there's money to be made on

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Speaker 4: that channel. And if you understand what your audience wants

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Speaker 4: and what they are looking for, you can tap into

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Speaker 4: that a little bit while also, you know, being very straightforward.

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00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: And to Keegan's credit, he said, I promise I won't

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Speaker 4: do cryptic tweets about UC's coaching shirt search. That's Chad

511
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: Brindle's job, and he doesn't do it for free, but

512
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 4: can understands that where he's at right now, you can

513
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: you can make a few bucks on social media if

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Speaker 4: you tap into it in the right way. Let's although

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Speaker 4: it's freaking hard now thanks to Elon, he keeps making

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Speaker 4: it harder on us.

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Speaker 3: Just try and try, try and pay him a bills.

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Speaker 3: Then let's have some three as we go today. Let's

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Speaker 3: just randomly throw out some head coaching names that the

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Speaker 3: Bear Catch should make. Say no, Okay, Billy Donovan, that's

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00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: a heck of a start. Make Billy Donovan say no.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back with Dave. Billy Donovan. We'll be back

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Speaker 3: with more of David phone calls in berg A lot

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Speaker 3: coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 10: defensive third basement in baseball, but some say the Reds

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Speaker 10: might have the best defensive player in baseball because key

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Speaker 10: Bryan Hayes might be both. Hayes won the National League's

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Speaker 10: Gold Glove Award for third baseman last season after splitting

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Speaker 10: the year between Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. In his two months

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Speaker 10: with the Reds, he often showed off his excellent defensive form,

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Speaker 10: and for the fourth time in five years, Hayes led

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Speaker 10: all third basemen with nineteen defensive runs saved. The Reds

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Speaker 10: won't be asking Hayes to do a ton with his back,

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Speaker 10: but he did hit fifteen home runs for the Pirates

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Speaker 10: in twenty twenty three, and for what it's worth, he

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Speaker 10: did homer in his Red State U last July. Meet

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Speaker 10: Red's third Baseman. Keep Bryan Hayes.

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Speaker 4: It's Mad Bowen here from Lost Culture.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 3: start throwing out names all right now, Kelvin Samson, Mike Brown,

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Speaker 3: every time they the Bearcats, raising about UC basketball and

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Speaker 3: the heritage in the history here, Kelvin Samson, make him

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Speaker 3: say no.

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Speaker 4: Richard Patino?

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Speaker 3: Okay, now, I think you'd start with Rick. Oh okay,

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Speaker 3: you say, okay, Rick, how much respect can you really

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Speaker 3: get in the Big East. You just won the conference outright,

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Speaker 3: and you won the conference tournament. You beat Yukon two

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Speaker 3: out of three times. Yukon's a two seed, and Rick

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Speaker 3: you're a five seed? Yeah, you know where you won't

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Speaker 3: be a five seed? Come and win the Big twelve?

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Speaker 3: Do you make Rick Patino say no? Can you imagine

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Speaker 3: Rick versus Richard in the shootout? I would love it.

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Speaker 3: I bet money on Richard. Oh boy, Now if you

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Speaker 3: do look at some of the message boards, there are

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Speaker 3: legitimate folks out there Austin that are adding to these

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Speaker 3: message boards. You got to make Bobby Hurley say no.

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Speaker 3: Bobby or Danny Dan Well both Bobby's unemployed right now too,

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Speaker 3: Dan Hurley.

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Speaker 4: I would start with Dan.

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Speaker 3: So Dan two seed at Yukon has turned down multiple

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Speaker 3: NBA jobs.

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Speaker 4: The Los Angeles Lakers being one of them.

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Speaker 3: Now, Dan noted die Hard Bengal fan, former ruler of

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Speaker 3: the Jungle. Can Joe Burrow Jamar Chasing Company make a

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00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: pitch to Dan Hurley to get him to be the

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Speaker 3: head coach of the UC Bearcats. And if so, do

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Speaker 3: you then have to make Dan say no twice?

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Speaker 4: The Bearcats were very close to landing Joe Burrow all

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Speaker 4: those years ago, and I mean, I think if you see,

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Speaker 4: we're smart, they'd reach out to their former offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor. That's right, And I'm sure there are still

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Speaker 4: plenty of friends. You know, the Bengals. Oh, U see

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Speaker 4: a favor for all those years of using the practice bubble.

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Speaker 3: You're right, So maybe to the Bearcats and a steak

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Speaker 3: in the Bengals and.

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Speaker 4: You guys put a package together to help us get

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Speaker 4: dead Hurly. Oh my gosh. If John Cunningham were smart,

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Speaker 4: and I believe he's a smart man, he would at

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Speaker 4: least consider something like that knock on the door. I'm

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Speaker 4: not kidding, by the way, what about Like I'm not

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Speaker 4: even being facetious, I'm not being a smart ass, Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm dead serious. If you're serious about turning the program around,

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Speaker 4: you should spare no expense to try to get your guy.

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Speaker 3: Let me throw you, let me throw a couple more

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Speaker 3: names at you, Bruce Pearl, No, thank you, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Bruce has made himself look terrible on these selection shows.

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Speaker 4: What about Jay Wright?

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Speaker 3: Jay Wright, maybe he's got the itch? What about Sean Miller?

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Speaker 3: What about Chris Mack?

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't Now, I'm not interested in Sean Miller because

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Speaker 4: you want to talk about being a pain in the

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Speaker 4: ass in the post game, he'd make Wes Miller look great.

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Speaker 4: I don't like Sean Miller.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine what the rivalry they'd probably make and

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Speaker 3: Xavier as if it's mac.

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Speaker 4: Sean Miller would probably make Dan and Terry go upstairs

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Speaker 4: and they make him call him on the phone after

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Speaker 4: the games.

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Speaker 3: All right, I like our hot board we got together

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Speaker 3: right now. I mean this is a scorching, scorching board

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Speaker 3: we have right now. And of course, you know a

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Speaker 3: lot of these coaches are are in the NCAA tournament Austin,

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Speaker 3: so maybe you got a little bit of time.

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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of UC fans say, well, half

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Speaker 4: the city's already named Calhoun up there in Clifton. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of a natural fit for What about what about

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Speaker 4: Travis Steele? Okay, sure, huh? What about he's got deep pockets?

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Speaker 3: What about Deebs? I'm sure, he's getting a lot of interest.

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Speaker 3: What about a guy with Cincinnati ties, especially on the

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Speaker 3: West side, Pat Kelsey at Louisville.

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Speaker 4: Do you think if you see, could give Travis Steele,

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Speaker 4: like a couple more variations of that Cadillac hat that.

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Speaker 3: He where Now we're talking maybe now we're talking that hat?

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Speaker 3: What about what about Kelsey at Louisville?

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Speaker 4: Sure? Why not make the call? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean the ACC stinks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they doubled their number of bids this

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Speaker 4: year from last year, but still they still stink. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you got to play us F in round one?

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Speaker 3: I mean, really, do you think John Schier forever just

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Speaker 3: wants to be under the Mike Krzyzewski umbrella? Do you

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Speaker 3: think he wants to branch off?

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Speaker 4: Well, let's move on Mike Krzyzewski. What's he doing? Great question?

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Speaker 4: What about Roy Williams? He's already you cats. He's a

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Speaker 4: big West Miller guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Could you imagine we people were freaked out for a

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Speaker 3: long time that Hubert Davis wasn't going to pan out?

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00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: What about getting Hubert from North Carolina? Uh No, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that. I want that you think ISO really

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Speaker 3: wants to retire? A Sparton. Yes, okay, what about Matt's

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Speaker 3: name is on the football facility?

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Speaker 4: What about Matt Painter? I don't know who that is?

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Speaker 3: Perdue, you know what that wants to get. Fran McCaffrey. Oh,

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Speaker 3: he's back in the dance, you know. I bet on's out.

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Speaker 3: Mark Fiel, Oh, I'm sure he's got to be tired

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Speaker 3: against Saga. Right, I'm sure go somewhere else, aultivate a program.

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Speaker 4: You gotta worry about the hurricane or the earthquakes out there.

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Speaker 3: Here's here's what we're getting at. There's plenty of names

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Speaker 3: out there. Go knock on some doors, make people say, no,

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Speaker 3: what are we waiting for? Jared Calhoun? He's he's playing

652
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Speaker 3: in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 4: He's coaching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he might be playing as well. But you

655
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Speaker 3: get what I'm saying is you got time. You at

656
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Speaker 3: least got a week here.

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Speaker 4: Let's go through.

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Speaker 3: Let's go through some of this.

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Speaker 4: What about Mark de Rosa.

660
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Speaker 3: What's Tubby Smith doing these days?

661
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Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no.

662
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Speaker 3: This notes might one out Alabama after his second leading

663
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Speaker 3: scorers got a pound.

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Speaker 4: Of weed on him. This, this might sound crazy, this

665
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 4: might sound crazy, but no no, no, no, hear me out,

666
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Speaker 4: John cal Perry, coach Cal. Coach cal wanted to come

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Speaker 4: to Ohio State. Ohio State didn't have a lot of

668
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: great decision makers up there when it comes to basketball. Okay, okay,

669
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Speaker 4: I mean I am I nuts on that. No, I

670
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 4: mean no, he just won the SEC. Only took him

671
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Speaker 4: a couple of years at Arkansas. I know he's been

672
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: known to get a wild hair now and then, man,

673
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: he is who's the guy from the Reds that he is?

674
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Speaker 4: It is he like related to TJ Friedel or something?

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00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: Wasn't there a story about that. There's something there, there

676
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 4: was some sort of relation. There's something there.

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Speaker 3: Coach cal likes the Reds. He's been known to go

678
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: to the Reds fan who right now? And I'm not

679
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: even I'm not this is the best I love this.

680
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to be annoying. What's the best

681
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Speaker 3: job open right now? I don't know what jobs are open?

682
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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 3: You see okay, Arizona State, No, Syracuse. Is Syracuse still

684
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Speaker 3: that good of a job. Yeah, I'd say it's probably

685
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: a Boston College, Georgia Tech Provident.

686
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no no.

687
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Speaker 3: So you've got with the big twelve ties and a

688
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: good foundation of money support to the nil. With those

689
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: things alone, it's not like it's not a job people

690
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Speaker 3: would want, didn't.

691
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Speaker 4: I see UNC Greensboro as open.

692
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Speaker 3: Well, that might be closed for West rather very soon.

693
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Speaker 4: I feel like he's coming back. Yeah, kind of like

694
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Speaker 4: a Sean Miller Zavier thing. Yep, but interesting. I think

695
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: you see your Syracuse is the top job available. And

696
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 4: if you're looking at the big twelve and the dollars

697
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 4: that the university has spent, sure it's not a bad job.

698
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Speaker 3: So swing for the fences. If you're John Cunningham, clip

699
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Speaker 3: that segment so we can send that down to the

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Speaker 3: university so they can get a hot board together. I'm

701
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: sure they're listening, so they can get a list together.

702
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Speaker 3: We'll take a break, we'll come back. Let's grab a

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Speaker 3: couple of phone calls to finish out the hour. We'll

704
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Speaker 3: talk about the NCAA tournament. We've got Bengals reds and

705
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 3: so much more between now and three o'clock on this

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Speaker 3: the Home of the Bengals, ESP fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports

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Speaker 3: Station WC. Welcome back, it is since he three p sixty.

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Speaker 3: We're back on the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take some phone calls, which means Austin the

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00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: first time since Tuesday and we've had a chance to

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Speaker 3: talk to any callers.

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Speaker 4: Let's take some calls.

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Speaker 3: We'll parlay that into the NCAA tournament conversation to kick

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Speaker 3: off the second hour before we get the talkbacks, Randy

715
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: is calling in.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Randy?

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Speaker 12: Hey, how you guys doing man?

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Speaker 4: Good? Great?

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Speaker 6: Good?

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Speaker 12: Hey? Do you have enough faith or do you have

721
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Speaker 12: any faith in Cunningham to make the right decision on

722
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 12: this hire based on his past hirings. I mean, you know,

723
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Speaker 12: he brings in Wes Miller from a mid major school.

724
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Speaker 12: Now everybody's throwing out Jared Calhoun's name. He's a mid

725
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Speaker 12: major cook. The situation that you see basketball is in

726
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Speaker 12: right now, you need a big name to come in

727
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Speaker 12: and turn this around. I mean, they've been set back

728
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 12: five six years now, Tony and a mid major coach

729
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 12: just isn't gonna do it. You need a big name

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Speaker 12: to get in here. And I don't have enough confidence

731
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Speaker 12: in knowing that are Yeah, the ad that.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna make the right choice, Yeah, I think that's

733
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Speaker 3: what makes this difficult is there's just not the track

734
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Speaker 3: record there now. I will say I do think he

735
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Speaker 3: got it right with Jordan Bischel. Jordan Bischel and you

736
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Speaker 3: see baseball right now fourteen and five one of the

737
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Speaker 3: best Big twelve teams, if not the best Big twelve

738
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Speaker 3: team playing right now. But outside of that, Katrina Merriweather

739
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: and the women's basketball program, I think the jury is

740
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: still out with Scott Sadderfield. There are a lot of questions,

741
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Speaker 3: and I think that's a fair concern when you're going

742
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Speaker 3: into now an extremely important higher, not just for you

743
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: see basketball, but for the future of this program as well,

744
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 3: because you're in a very delicate spot right now where

745
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Speaker 3: you don't want to be the bottom part of the

746
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 3: Big twelve going forward. You've got to get yourself back

747
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 3: up into the conversation. This coaching Higher is going to

748
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: be a big part of that. There's just so many

749
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Speaker 3: questions I have with the Higher itself. But I think

750
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Speaker 3: it's a fair criticism at this point to wonder.

751
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Speaker 12: That, yeah, because I mean, I just don't have confidence

752
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Speaker 12: in the guy based on the hires so far as

753
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Speaker 12: far as the football and the basketball team's team has gone.

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Speaker 6: And again.

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Speaker 12: You know Jared Calhoun. Okay, great, you know your tall

756
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Speaker 12: value wherever Necky is it's a mid major school.

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Speaker 13: You need a.

758
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Speaker 12: Proven guy in here. And you know, whether you can

759
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 12: law one of these big name coaches here or not,

760
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Speaker 12: that's yet to be seen. But I just think you

761
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Speaker 12: need a name to come in here that's going to

762
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Speaker 12: draw the recruits in and get the fan base back

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Speaker 12: on board with this thing.

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Speaker 14: Tony.

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Speaker 12: I just don't have faith in Cunningham that he's going.

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Speaker 6: To do that.

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Speaker 12: I really don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's fair. Randy, Thank you so much for

769
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Speaker 3: the phone call. Have a great day.

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Speaker 4: You know, Austin.

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Speaker 3: I think there is a sum of that out there.

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Speaker 3: There should be. You should be skeptical and and I

773
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Speaker 3: get the pushback of Okay, Utah State. Do you go

774
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: get a proven guy that's done it at a high level.

775
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Speaker 3: That's that's where you got to trust how you go

776
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Speaker 3: about the hiring process. You know, remember the was it

777
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Speaker 3: Corey Evans the GM we talked so much about before

778
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Speaker 3: the season.

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Speaker 4: What's his role in this?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: And one thing I'll push back on Randy on I

782
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: think Wes Miller got some good players here to Cincinnati

783
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Speaker 3: Dylan Mitchell is an All Big East player for Saint

784
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Speaker 3: John's who just won the regular season and the and

785
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: the tournament for the Big East at Saint John's. I mean,

786
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of players that are doing a lot

787
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Speaker 3: of good things. I think Wes got good players here.

788
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Speaker 3: I just don't think they fit together and I don't

789
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Speaker 3: think he can coach them. But it is that that's

790
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: an interesting dynamic as we go down this stretch. Mark

791
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Speaker 3: what's going on?

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Speaker 6: Okay, I got two things. I need Tony Pike to

793
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Speaker 6: make it make sense. How the Orlando Brown get a

794
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Speaker 6: two year contract extension after what we've seen the past

795
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Speaker 6: couple of years, Yeah, can you can you? I was

796
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Speaker 6: scratching my head after I saw that.

797
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that one was a surprise to me, essentially because

798
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Speaker 3: the last time we spoke last week, we talked about

799
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Speaker 3: Orlando Brown junior kind of be in the weak spot

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Speaker 3: on that offensive line and if you do enough in

801
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Speaker 3: the offseason, can you attack offensive line with pick number

802
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Speaker 3: ten potentially? And then to see that extension, yeah, I

803
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Speaker 3: was the same way. I was a little bit puzzled

804
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Speaker 3: by it as well. But I believe Austin By and

805
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Speaker 3: I don't have it in front him, but I believe

806
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Speaker 3: they freed up some cap space with the extension as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that I think is the biggest thing is he's

808
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: not overly expensive at that position. I think he's seventeenth

809
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Speaker 4: among left tackles when it comes to the average annual

810
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Speaker 4: value for him. It basically kicks the can down the

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Speaker 4: road in terms of fire his replacement. And when you

812
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Speaker 4: have other needs in the draft that you didn't address

813
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Speaker 4: in free agency, instead of spending a pick on a

814
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Speaker 4: offensive lineman or a tackle, Dave decided, you know, hey,

815
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Speaker 4: we'll get one more year of Orlando Brown junior and

816
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Speaker 4: maybe address that down the line.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, one one last thing with UC basketball. I

818
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 6: had this bad feeling when they let Hugs go, But

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Speaker 6: I thought Mick Cronin did a pretty good job. Agreed,

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Speaker 6: but it never seemed it never seemed.

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Speaker 9: Like to me that he was embraced.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that was one of the most difficult jobs

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Speaker 3: to take at that time because Bob Huggins was so

825
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Speaker 3: beloved beloved by the fans of Cincinnati that it felt

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Speaker 3: like whoever got the job next it was going to

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Speaker 3: be impossible shoes to fill. And Mick Cronin had a

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Speaker 3: lot of success here, but I think so many people

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Speaker 3: were still just so fresh to the idea of Bob

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Speaker 3: Huggins not being there that it made it a very

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Speaker 3: hard coach to follow.

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Speaker 6: Could it Is there a chance that they could bring

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Speaker 6: Mike Cronin back? And I'll get off and listen to.

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Speaker 3: Your answer, Mark, I appreciate it, Thank you. Would that

835
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Speaker 3: be one of the names, Austin, if you're John cunning,

836
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Speaker 3: hand of your at least reach out to probably, I mean,

837
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Speaker 3: guys went to a final four. I don't know that

838
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: you reach out to it, but you have internal conversation.

839
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Speaker 3: At least someone at least has to bring it up

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Speaker 3: some consideration. Someone at at the table's got to at

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Speaker 3: least bring it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh, one more quick here before.

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Speaker 4: We forget it. Break. I don't think Mick is very happy.

845
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Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like la. I also would say, I

846
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 4: don't think he's very happy in general. I think he's

847
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: just kind of a curmudgeon, but sometimes that works.

848
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Speaker 3: True on this book. Let's get a break. We'll finish

849
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Speaker 3: up these phone calls when we come back and talk

850
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Speaker 3: about the NCAA tournament as well. Thanks to our friends,

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Speaker 3: here at Skyline and now number one on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Our number two. Let's talk some NCAA basketball here. We've

860
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Speaker 3: talked Wes Miller, We've talked to University of Cincinnati. We

861
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: have a lot to get to in the National Football League,

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Speaker 3: especially with the Cincinnati Bengals, and ten days away from

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Speaker 3: opening day here in the great city of Cincinnati, so

864
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Speaker 3: we've got a lot to get to with the Reds.

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Speaker 3: Your talkbacks come up in just a few moments. Let's

866
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Speaker 3: grab one more phone call and then we'll get into

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Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 13: Mike, what's going on, Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. Yes,

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Speaker 13: a pleasant weekend. It was weird last week, but you

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Speaker 13: guys being oh, I was like a little kid lost

871
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 13: out in would It.

872
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: Was a terrible time to not be working with everything

873
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: going on.

874
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 13: For sure, Well, it was for us fans of the show,

875
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 13: because you know, we just get a bit. I'm sure

876
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 13: you guys enjoyed your time off and you deserve it,

877
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 13: but for me, it was like, damn, something's missing in

878
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 13: my life here. But that's a compliment to you guys.

879
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 13: Thank you, Yes, sir, I think, uh, Wes, I wish

880
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 13: you well. I think the job might have been a

881
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 13: little big for you. I think they've rolled the dice,

882
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 13: just like with Brandon, and quite frankly, you see, has

883
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 13: not been a big NCAA powerhouse for yeah, quite a

884
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 13: long time. Even when Nick was here, we didn't make

885
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 13: any deep runs.

886
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: Now, their last run was a was a loss as

887
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 3: a seventh seed to ten seeded Iowa. That was their

888
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: last NCAA tournament experience and trip. So I agree with that,

889
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: and I think to to go back to the last

890
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 3: caller as well. I think that's why if you're John Cunningham,

891
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: you have to swing for the fences here. You missed

892
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 3: with Brandon, you missed with Wes Miller. Your job is

893
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 3: likely on the line and likely tied to the next

894
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: coach you bring in, so you better exhaust every avenue

895
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: possible to make this next.

896
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 13: Guy, the guy you got to try to get a

897
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 13: big name coach as much as you can. Calipari, come

898
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 13: in here, Get real, that is happening. The guy just

899
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 13: got to Arkansas. He's happy as a pig, and you

900
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 13: know what, and to encapsulate what their mask got and

901
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 13: and he ain't going nowhere, and some of these other

902
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 13: guys you talked about. I mean, the fact that we

903
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 13: got Patino Junior into town was probably as big as

904
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 13: it's gonna get. Yeah, but I don't know, maybe not

905
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 13: maybe maybe I don't know, but I know we're all

906
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 13: tired of you see being let's pedestrian. Let's put it

907
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 13: like that. Regarding the tournament. Now, I'd love to talk football,

908
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 13: but I'm I'm consumed in this now, So football take

909
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 13: a back seat for a minute. Thank John's got screwed mercilessly.

910
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 4: I agree.

911
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 6: Why.

912
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: I don't know.

913
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 13: They got to play two games are one game on

914
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 13: the East Coast, then go to the California, then come

915
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 13: back to the East Coast if they're still alive. So

916
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 13: they screwed him on a travel deal. But one thing

917
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 13: about it is is Rick Patino will never use any

918
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 13: of that crap for a crutch never That's why he's

919
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 13: the ultimate coach. And that's why they came back from

920
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 13: a forty point drubbing of Yukon a month later. They

921
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 13: mount them down like a drum too. And what is that?

922
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 13: That's character, that's great coaching. And and I wouldn't want

923
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 13: to catch a coach against Rick Patino in this tournament.

924
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 13: I really wouldn't. I don't care who you are.

925
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the the East itself with Duke Brutal, Saint John's, Kansas, Louisville,

926
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: Michigan State, U C l A. And then you throw

927
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 3: Yukon in there. I mean that from not only a

928
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: team standpoint, but just coaches as well. So many, so

929
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: many good college basketball coaches loaded into that East bracket,

930
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: and I you.

931
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 13: Know what, I'll tell you what. Now, Micks got this

932
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 13: team playing where he wanted them all here. Now, so

933
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 13: watch out for Nick. You might see his little heini

934
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 13: in the That's very possible. He might want to shine

935
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 13: that head up. Austin didn't give him a lesson on that,

936
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 13: and you get him going. So I'm just so excited

937
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 13: about this whole thing. Santa Clara is going to beat

938
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 13: the breaks?

939
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: Is that is that?

940
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 13: Who Miami's playing Santa Clara.

941
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 3: No, Miami's got SMU. Santa Clara is only a three

942
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,720
Speaker 3: and a half point dog to Kentucky.

943
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 13: That's right, Santa Clara will beat Kentucky in.

944
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: A lot of people.

945
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a good team that not a

946
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 3: lot of people know about, and that SMU.

947
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 13: The problem for SMU is their best player. So Miami

948
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 13: said a good chuck there. So that's all I got.

949
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 13: I know you guys are busy. Thank you for taking

950
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 13: my call.

951
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike, appreciate it.

952
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: Thank you. Let's do that.

953
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: Let's spend a few minutes here on the bracket itself. Austin,

954
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: I mentioned the East Duke being the number one seed

955
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 3: in the East. They did not get rewarded because even

956
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: in their eight nine game, Austin, you give credit to

957
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: what Ohio State has done down the stretch, because they

958
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 3: went from being a bubble team to actually getting an

959
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 3: eight seed in the dance.

960
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that. A lot of

961
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 4: Ohio State fans feel great.

962
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: It's a hard draw ability to TCU is just a

963
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: physical team.

964
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 16: Yeah.

965
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: TCU is no slouch by any stretch. The imagination and

966
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 4: if you are lucky enough to win that you'll likely

967
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: play the number one overall. Yeah, so probably don't feel

968
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 4: great about that for a lot of Ohio State fans.

969
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 4: But the fact that they've played as good as they

970
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 4: did after being on the bubble for as long as

971
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 4: they were is a testament I think.

972
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: To Jake Diebler, Saint John's, as we mentioned, is the

973
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: five seed. I think that is egregious on many different accounts.

974
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 3: I mean Saint John's since let's see, since the Providence

975
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 3: lost Austin on January third, Saint John's has only lost

976
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: one time since, and it was that beating at Yukon.

977
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: They've won every other game. They won the regular season

978
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: in the Big East, they won the Big East Tournament,

979
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 3: and yet rewarded with a five seed in this same

980
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: as you mentioned, the same bracket as Duke and the

981
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 3: four seed right below him, Bill South and the Kansas

982
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: Jayhawks the bottom of the bracket, Pat Kelsey's Louisville Cardinals.

983
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: That's a trendy early on Austin. There's always these trendy

984
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: upset picks that people give a lot of people like

985
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: South Florida in that six to eleven game against Louisville

986
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: Louisville just not playing their best basketball down the stretch.

987
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: You got tom Izzo as a three seed with Michigan

988
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: State Mick Cronin. UCLA's a seven going up against UCF.

989
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: What I think is interesting Austin. I think there was

990
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: a good possibility if uc beats UCF, we would have

991
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: been talking about UCLA again to you see in that

992
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: seven to ten game. I legit think that was a possibility.

993
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 3: And then Yukon takes on Furman as the two. Fifteen

994
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: in the East, the East is absolutely loaded. South is

995
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: a little bit different. Florida is the one seed, although

996
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 3: they got This is where I question things, Austin. Florida's

997
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: the one. Vandy just dominated Florida in the SEC tournament,

998
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: and Vandy gets the five, and if they win two games,

999
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: they'll have to play Florida again. That doesn't make sense.

1000
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 3: They're not protecting Florida much in that Nebraska is the

1001
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 3: four seed. Some other notable games, Houston gets the two

1002
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 3: in the South. In the West, Arizona is the number

1003
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 3: one seed, Villanova and Utah State. That Utah State team.

1004
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 3: If you're looking at possibilities for UC basketball, Utah status

1005
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: coach by Jared Calhoun. They are a slight favorite over Villanova.

1006
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: Winner of that would get Arizona. Wisconsin is the five.

1007
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: Arkansas takes on Hawaii Coach cal sec tournament champs. They

1008
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: get a four seed b YU and projected number one

1009
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: pick aj Debonsta is the sixth seed in the West,

1010
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: Gonzaga three, and the Midwest gets Michigan is the one seed.

1011
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: Texas tech Akron is the five to twelve. Alabama you

1012
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier Austin, that player that's their second leading scorer

1013
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: was arrested with a pound of weed in his possession.

1014
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: Interesting to see what comes of that. With Alabama as

1015
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 3: a four seed. Tennessee is the sixth. If Tennessee were

1016
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 3: to win Austin, I'm sorry. If Miami wins their playing game,

1017
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: that's who they would play in the next round is Tennessee.

1018
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: So we'll get to Miami in just a second. And

1019
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 3: then a very trendy upset right now, the Kentucky Wildcats

1020
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 3: just a three and a half point favorite over Santa Clara.

1021
00:54:55,920 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: Action gets underway Wednesday night in Dayton. It's ends and

1022
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: Texas both eleven seeds, and then Howard and UNBC, and

1023
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: then on Wednesday night, Lehigh Prairie View, and then SMU

1024
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: and Miami of Ohio. That is your first four in Dayton.

1025
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: I thought it would have been extremely funny if they

1026
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: would have paired Texas Miami in the play in just

1027
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: to get that Travis Steele and Sean Miller game. But nonetheless,

1028
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: any big takeaways Austin that you have in looking initially

1029
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 3: at the bracket as you saw it last night.

1030
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, the only thing that I really thought much about

1031
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 4: was just how loaded that East region is. Yeah, with Duke,

1032
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 4: with Saint John's, Kansas, Louisville, Michigan State, Ucla, Yukon. I mean,

1033
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 4: that is a who's who of coaches and teams and

1034
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: brands in the East, and I feel like it's a

1035
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 4: relatively easy run for Michigan. I think to the final four.

1036
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: I'm not overly impressed with Iowa State. I've not been

1037
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 4: overly impressed with any of those teams that I've watched, Admitdlee,

1038
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: I haven't broken those teams down by any stretch of

1039
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: the imagination. But I feel like this is one where

1040
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 4: we'll see chalk again once we get to the final four.

1041
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: I saw.

1042
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: I think it's the first time ever every one through

1043
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 3: four seed is at least a double digit favorite. In

1044
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 3: Round one, every seed one, two, three, or four is

1045
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: favored by at least ten or more. Normally you get

1046
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: an eight and a half, nine and a half somewhere

1047
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 3: in there. But the top four seeds in each region

1048
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: heavy heavy favorites going in, and uh, I'm with you.

1049
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 3: It kind of feels outside of the East, where I

1050
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 3: legitimately think anything can happen. I think Florida and Houston

1051
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 3: end up meeting. In the South, I think Arizona and

1052
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: you know, Purdue has always hit or miss, but I

1053
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 3: think Arizona Perdue is probably a good bet. Maybe Gonzaga

1054
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: is a three seed. And then you mentioned mid West.

1055
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: I still think Iowa State will get to play Michigan,

1056
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 3: but I see a lot of chalk and maybe some

1057
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: good first round matchups. But I think there's a distinction

1058
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: this year between those top teams, you know, those top

1059
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: sixteen to twenty teams in the rest of the field,

1060
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: and I think nil and the transfer portal does play

1061
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: a major role in all of that. Along with the

1062
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: firing of west Miller that also came with UC denying

1063
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: any postseason playing opportunities. I believe that's the same with

1064
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 3: Xavier right now, So season's completely done for the Bear

1065
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: Captain Musketeers.

1066
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: Isn't happening? Right?

1067
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 16: Is?

1068
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 4: The CBI canceled CBI for what they said were reasons

1069
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 4: beyond their control. Yeah, aren't doing a tournament. I know

1070
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 4: Dayton is playing in the n IT. By the way,

1071
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 4: how about Dayton almost stealing a bid which could have

1072
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 4: taken away Miami, which could have taken away Miami. I mean, gosh,

1073
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 4: that they went on a bit of a run there.

1074
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: I watched pretty much that whole game yesterday, Dayton and VCU.

1075
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: I feel like for the first fifteen minutes of the game,

1076
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 4: VCU did not have a player go inside the three point.

1077
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: I can't remember watching a team other than like the

1078
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: Warriors twenty years ago or ten years ago, where that

1079
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 4: all they did was shoot threes. Yeah, like that's all

1080
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 4: they did. And Dayton, if they would have been able

1081
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 4: to make free throws, that would have been an entirely

1082
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: different game, but been a lot different. But I know

1083
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 4: Dayton's going to the NIT. Yeah, the Crown, the NIT.

1084
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: We'll keep track of all of it as we go.

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Speaker 4: Let's get a I don't think we will or should

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Speaker 4: spend much time on the Crown. I don't think we

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Speaker 4: will either. Is there a local team in the Crown?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think what we'll do at some point on

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Speaker 3: a show in the future is announced who won the Crown,

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Speaker 3: and that'll be it. That might be a little much,

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Speaker 3: that'll be it. I don't even I don't even know

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Speaker 3: what the full field is or if it's even been

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00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: completely announced yet. I know the nit is. I don't

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Speaker 3: care at all, even a little bit. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: we'll announce maybe one day, the winner and that'll be it.

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Speaker 4: For now.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break, Let's get early to talkbacks and

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Speaker 3: after talkbacks plenty on the Reds, the Bengals, the NFL

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Speaker 3: and more right here on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, which,

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Speaker 3: by the way, one more time, Austince and we did

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Speaker 3: just talk about it. What's the easiest way for folks

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Speaker 3: are that are listening that can get in to the

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincy three to sixty Tournament Challenge.

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Speaker 4: I posted the link. I believe you posted the link,

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Speaker 4: yes on Twitter at audiel More at Tony Underscore Pike fifteen.

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Speaker 4: I'll go ahead and retweet it. I'm not afraid to

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Speaker 4: retweet it again. Right now, it's just Tony Pikes since

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Speaker 4: E three to sixty bracket challenge. That's it. And the

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Speaker 4: password is Tony Pike's pass key. Go sign up and

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Speaker 4: as of now, I click on the link here just

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Speaker 4: to double check. Twenty six people okay, already in it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, sign up, let's have some fun with it.

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Speaker 17: Uh.

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Speaker 3: By the way, programming note this week, it doesn't change

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Speaker 3: much for US Austin because we were all Friday as well.

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Speaker 3: But Kentucky Basketball I think twelve twenty starts on Friday,

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Speaker 3: So does that mean no, sincey three sixty.

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Speaker 4: We will there will not be a show. Okay, well,

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Speaker 4: there you go. Thanks Kentucky Basketball. Let's be honest though,

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Speaker 4: they did us a favor. Yeah, because apparently they couldn't

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Speaker 4: find anybody to fill in for us. Okay, well, thank

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Speaker 4: you Kentucky, and thank you tournament committee. I was being

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Speaker 4: tasked with putting together a best of show for Friday.

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Speaker 4: Oh not anymore, and now I don't have to do

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Speaker 4: that because of Kentucky Basketball. Kentucky Santa Clara, thank you kindly.

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Speaker 4: We'll take a break for all of you who are

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Speaker 4: maybe upset by Kentucky, you know, preempting us as much

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Speaker 4: as they have. Perhaps this will be the last time

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Speaker 4: that happens for a.

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Speaker 3: Valid We'll take a break. Plenty more still to go.

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Speaker 3: Your talkback's next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 10: Hey Alexa, PN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 11: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 18: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone,

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Speaker 18: please keep it clean and don't be mean, and a.

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Speaker 11: Sprinkle sprinkle, drip drifts.

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Speaker 4: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 18: It's our favorite parter Cincy three sixty, So Austin buddy,

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Speaker 18: play those talkbacks on your screen and please drive now tu.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: The first set of talkbacks since last Tuesday. Is hard

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Speaker 3: to believe, but here we go. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. If you're a Kentucky basketball fan, this might

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Speaker 3: be a rough.

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Speaker 4: Go for you.

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Speaker 19: We see, happy Monday, everybody, UK basketball. I have a

1148
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 19: bone to pick with you. How can you make me

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Speaker 19: miss my show three and then not win the tournament?

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Speaker 19: Chris Barkley was so horrible and Bengals free agency. I

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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 19: like some of the moves I think they overpaid for Allen,

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Speaker 19: but glad they got him. I think they got some

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01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 19: other guys cheaper, and I don't know how you don't

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Speaker 19: make it. We want some of these good linebackers out there.

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Speaker 19: Can't go into next season with just Knight and Carter

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Speaker 19: and think it's all good.

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Speaker 4: Here they Hohode, It's up guys, big Kahunah, Kentucky.

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Speaker 20: I've never been so happy for someone I can't stay

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01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 20: in so much as at Eric Colt that dueve at

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Speaker 20: Utah State getting that head coaching job at Talton.

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Speaker 4: That means he ain't gonna be coming to uc now

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Speaker 4: with Jery Catho.

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Speaker 20: But I tell you what, I'm still a little concerned

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Speaker 20: about Wes Miller.

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Speaker 4: Getting his job back.

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Speaker 20: I was talking to half a Garment at Ramsey Attorney

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Speaker 20: at law done there kindly bought him in Kentucky.

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Speaker 4: They said he has legitimate case. A couple of players.

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Speaker 20: Slipped on their floor against UCF that could have cost

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Speaker 20: the contracted the guy.

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Speaker 4: And now they took the floor up and made it wood.

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Speaker 3: They did replace the floor day, laying the dollar shore

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Speaker 3: some I'm on with that now.

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Speaker 19: Back to double up guys this week, as so many

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Speaker 19: Bengals fans crashing out or Hendrickson going.

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Speaker 4: To the Ravens. Yeah, it's a rival, but I'm glass

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Speaker 4: that dude's gone.

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Speaker 19: No more off seasons and Aigan's are crying over contracts

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Speaker 19: that he already signed. But we know there's games that

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Speaker 19: he disappears quicker than a pints on Saint Patti's Day.

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Speaker 4: Oh terrible against a run And.

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Speaker 19: When says Brown's out there, you just tell him the

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Speaker 19: run of a ninety one and he can spend move

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Speaker 19: him quicker than the Ravens dead Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we'll spend some more time on this,

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Speaker 3: but I'm just really happen for Trey. I'm happy for

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson who's able to get a fresh start.

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Speaker 4: That's what he wanted. It's a fresh start, squint from Oakley.

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Speaker 21: I just wanted to say I'm not going to put

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Speaker 21: much of a eulog on west Miller's departure, but I

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Speaker 21: will say this for the next three weeks. Because the

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Speaker 21: university can't actually announce the new coach due to the buyout,

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Speaker 21: I would just let the people that work in the

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Speaker 21: industry announce it, not speculate like the fans do on

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Speaker 21: social media. So whoever you have on your show, like

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Speaker 21: Brenda nikas In or Scott Springer, those are your guys.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 22: After being in New York Friday night for the semis

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Speaker 22: of the Big East Tournament, I would throw out a sprinkle,

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Speaker 22: a big sprinkle on Saint John's a plus thirteen hundred

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Speaker 22: to reach the final four, even in that bracket of

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Speaker 22: death that they're in, grown man team that plays lockdown defense,

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Speaker 22: They're gonna be stuck with all those other teams.

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Speaker 4: In the bracket. But I think they got a good shot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. It is a grown man style and

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Speaker 3: they defend man. They are physical and they defend you.

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Speaker 9: It's the Lord.

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Speaker 23: I'd like to make an observation, you know, when it

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Speaker 23: comes to ours Cincinnati sports teams, the Red Spangles, Xavier

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Speaker 23: and U. See, we always look forward to the offseason

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Speaker 23: free agent signings, the draft, red Fest, the transfer portal,

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Speaker 23: schedule release, etc. But when it actually comes to the

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Speaker 23: regular sea and leaves all hope in about a month

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Speaker 23: in because our teams suck so bad.

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Speaker 4: Very true, but all I have a feeling that's the

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Speaker 4: path where going down for the Bengals right now. Oh, boy,

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Speaker 4: oh boy.

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Speaker 17: Hey, guys, Jeff and New Richmond. I'm hoping I remember

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Speaker 17: how to leave a talk back. It's been a while. Anyway.

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Speaker 17: I'm glad that Miami made the tournament. I think they'll

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Speaker 17: make it to the round of thirty two. I think

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Speaker 17: they'll lose to Virginia, though I think Virginia is a

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Speaker 17: little too much. Okay, sad to see west Miller. Go

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Speaker 17: wish him nothing but the best with the crowd. I

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Speaker 17: think Jerry Calhoun's the right guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's got He's got the Red Hawks beating Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: So Jeff's got Miami winning against SMU and against the

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Speaker 3: balls and then falling to Virginia.

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Speaker 4: Okay, noted Jeff.

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Speaker 24: Hey, Austin, ay Tony is acuse me?

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Speaker 6: I thought I saw a.

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Speaker 24: Really interesting article online this weekend that the last time

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Speaker 24: the Bearcats were in the NCAA tournament was when Nick

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Speaker 24: Cronin had hair.

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Speaker 4: If so, man, that's a long time, been a long time.

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Speaker 24: He needed to bring back the attitude of intimidate, dominate

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Speaker 24: and celebrate that coach that can deliver that, and we'll

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Speaker 24: be back on track.

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Speaker 4: Go bear Cats loved that time. Intimidate dominate, celebrate. Is

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Speaker 4: the goal to appear in the NCAA tournament or is

1241
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Speaker 4: the goal to win national championships?

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Speaker 3: No, your goal should be to win national championships appearances.

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Speaker 4: Is Mick Cronin the guy then?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: At this point in his career, I don't know if he.

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Speaker 4: Has one Final four? Yeah? Is that correct? And couldn't

1247
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Speaker 4: really ever get out of the Sweet sixteen? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Here, he struggled mightily in the in the tournament, So

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's your guy.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you have to Hell is former President run

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to say go back to Mick, but if

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Speaker 3: you remember why they let Mick go, it was just

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Speaker 3: that he would get to the tournament, but they never advanced.

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Speaker 3: So you have to decide do you just want to

1256
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Speaker 3: be in the dance or do you want to have

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Speaker 3: a chance to win the thing?

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Speaker 11: Hello, this is former President Ronald REAGANU. Well, I just

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Speaker 11: bumped into Wes Miller here at CBG Airport. I guess

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Speaker 11: he's on his way out of town. I asked him

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Speaker 11: for a parting quote and all he had to say

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Speaker 11: was quote, I didn't get what I wanted, and I

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Speaker 11: feel my insignificance. Good luck.

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Speaker 16: Wes.

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Speaker 4: That might be my new Twitter bio. Yep, didn't get

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Speaker 4: what I wanted and I feel my insignificance. Yep, it's

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Speaker 4: so said. Oh here we go.

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Speaker 25: Yep, Red Roses too. Wes Miller is gone. Greece is too,

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Speaker 25: and I think too Ma. So just higher Cow.

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Speaker 4: Wow man that Louis Armstrong. Beautifully done there, well done, Louis, Louis.

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Speaker 4: Wes Miller is gone Hercreasa too, and I think to myself,

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Speaker 4: just Higher Calhoun.

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Speaker 3: That is phenomenal guy from Utah State.

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Speaker 9: I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 26: Terry Nelson said Miller would struggle into game situations all

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Speaker 26: year long.

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Speaker 9: I guess, except for the Utah one.

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Speaker 26: I like who the Bengals signed, but I can't believe

1279
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Speaker 26: they didn't try to sign a linebacker too.

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Speaker 9: Please don't sit on your hands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's we'll get to that today.

1282
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: But the linebacker question still remains and becomes a heavy

1283
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Speaker 3: talking point for the offseason.

1284
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 4: I got a name for you, Dustin Kerr Appalachian State.

1285
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Speaker 4: What's he up to? You think him and Scott are buddies?

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01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 13: Oh?

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01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 3: Okay, I think there's a rule you can only go

1288
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: one former app State guy on staff at university.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as a head coach.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, I wanted to say as well, Sam John's being

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Speaker 26: a five seed is horrible.

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Speaker 9: They should be a higher seed than that.

1293
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Speaker 4: Agreed agreed.

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Speaker 5: First off, super sad about Wes. I wish he could

1295
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 5: have got a lifetime contract. I even email John Cunningham

1296
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Speaker 5: saying we need to give him one more year. Second off,

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Speaker 5: do you know Jared Calhoun's record against Richard Patino?

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Speaker 11: Oh, gosh Ozero and two bring him on, go Muskus.

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Speaker 4: Wow, what's Wes Miller's record against Uh, Jared Calhoun? I

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: don't know. I'm gonna say I've ever matched up. Uh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: What's worse than catching help from my friends because my

1303
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 14: team has knocked since you three sixty off the air

1304
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 14: for three days, it's watching coach cal take his Razorbacks

1305
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 14: to the SEC Championship with one of the best players

1306
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 14: in the country. Now, if he goes and wins the

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01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 14: whole thing, I'm going to be ticked. So we'll see

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01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 14: go Big Blue Hooda and go Rid.

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Speaker 3: It's gotta be tough man for UK fancying that.

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01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 17: Hey, it's Jeff back with the double dip. Listen about

1311
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 17: Nick Cronin. There's no way we want him back here.

1312
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 17: If you look at his numbers according to their rankings,

1313
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 17: if where they've been seated and where they've gone in

1314
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 17: the tournaments, really he's been a failure, you know, one

1315
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 17: sweet sixteen and twelve years. This fan base and his

1316
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 17: sarcasm would not be a good mix at this point.

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01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe rub some people the wrong way, they say.

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01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 26: Just heard you guys say something about that guy getting

1319
01:10:58,600 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 26: busted with a pound of wed.

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01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 4: That's a lot of weird to me.

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 3: Jeez, it's gonna be interesting. Like I said, it's not

1322
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 3: just a role player. He's their second leading scorer on

1323
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 3: the team.

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01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: Didn't they have a dude that gave a weapon to

1325
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 4: a murderer last week?

1326
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, Aiden Holloway is the guy that was arrested

1327
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,799
Speaker 3: on a felony drug charge just four days before the tournament.

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01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: He is their second leading scorer and had eighteen in

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Speaker 3: their last game.

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Speaker 16: My final two minutes on Wednesday was the most incompetent

1331
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 16: I've ever seen a basketball team. Yep, it was embarrassing, pathetic.

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 16: I was freaking pissed, ruined my evenings. But now I

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01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 16: guess it's relief.

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Speaker 13: Tony.

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Speaker 16: Did you happen to call West and see how he

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01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 16: was doing after he got fired like he did for you.

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 4: Well, I sent a text, I said a text. What's

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01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 4: the face of a coward?

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01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 6: I don't know.

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 4: I Dominican, Bobby.

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01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 14: We knew you were a Dominican because you hit a

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01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 14: solo and then you threw your bat into the third

1343
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 14: row and that was the only run you guys scored,

1344
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 14: and then you lost a bunch of losers.

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Speaker 4: Dude, did you see the end of the Tennessee Georgia

1346
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 4: college baseball game? So it's uh, top of the ninth.

1347
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 4: Georgia is the home team. Georgia is leading by one run.

1348
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 4: There is a runner on and Tennessee is up to

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: bat and there are two outs in the game. They

1350
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 4: are one out away from knocking off their arch rival Tennessee,

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01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 4: and the batter smokes the ball to deep left field,

1352
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 4: looks like a no doubt homer, turns to his dugout,

1353
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: slams his bat down bat flip style, starts getting pumped up.

1354
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 4: Ball is caught up against the wall on the warning track. Yeah,

1355
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 4: and Georgia goes absolutely nuts, and the guy who hit

1356
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 4: the ball is in stunned disbelief. What he thought was

1357
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 4: an absolute tank job. To take the lead was instead

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 4: the final out of the game.

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Speaker 3: And it was such a I mean an aggressive badspike

1360
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 3: like you would have thought.

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Speaker 4: It was like a no doubter. It was so awesome.

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: Yep to see that.

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 5: Yep, ESPN fifteen thirties working on Alex again.

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 4: Okay, turn it did he say it is? It's uh?

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01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 3: I thought he said, is not.

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01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 5: ESPN fifteen thirties working on Alex.

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Speaker 3: He said it is, right, sounded like it is. Okay, good,

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01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 3: that's a good thing. Yeah, maybe they got that taken

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01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 3: care of in the three off days they had. All Right,

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01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 3: we're done, Josh, unbelievable. I can I can go back

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01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: and see if there was any that we missed. I'm

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01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 3: there was a lot perhaps during that that phase.

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 4: Let me see. I go back and check it out.

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01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 4: In the meantime, I'm a little disappointed that you didn't

1375
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 4: call Wes though. Yeah, just a tex to go about

1376
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 4: the whole thing, like just a busy day. You always

1377
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 4: talk about the busy day. So I just sent him

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 4: a text. Okay, there are a couple here from let's

1379
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 4: see this here. These are people didn't know we didn't

1380
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 4: have a show. Jeff and New Richmond. Oh, Jeff, let's see.

1381
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 4: This is how we can tell who actually listens.

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Speaker 17: Hey, guys, Jeff, New Richmond, welcome back. So I think

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01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 17: Miami's lost yesterday probably drops them to a ten seed.

1384
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,680
Speaker 17: So could be a blessing in disguise as far as

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 17: the Bearcats go. And Wes, I think we move on

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 17: from him. I don't know, you know, I like Wes,

1387
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 17: but I like winning and going to tournaments more.

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01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 13: Yes, have a good day.

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01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 3: So he nailed it. He called his shot. I just

1390
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 3: missed the seating for Miami. One seat off for Miami

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01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: and did say welcome back.

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01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 27: Krug here crash out in coming. You know the same

1393
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 27: kind of patterns. They think it's malpracticed the way a

1394
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 27: lot of other teams operate, and they get left in

1395
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 27: the dust because of that. And here we are left

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01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 27: with thirty eight year olds. You want to sign a

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 27: one year deal. Hope and pray. Everybody just be prepared

1398
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 27: because this is who they are.

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 4: All right, Well, let me run through these three real quick.

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 4: That'll end U right here. At these these I think

1401
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,520
Speaker 4: are timeless.

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01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 13: Tiger and Sam Sneak.

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01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 9: I'm in pain, must call my doctor.

1404
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 4: It Burns when I bar Aaron Rogers, I like Nicole Back,

1405
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 4: I like cream Pat Berry and Jerry's Bringer. Yeah, ken Brew.

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01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 16: Norma Rushie Ye.

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 3: Well, that guy is well done. He is something else

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: many phenomenal. I'm just consistently consistently impressed with his ability

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01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 3: to to pull that winner of the day is probably

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01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 3: the West Miller Jared Calhoun Jingle. Oh, without a doubt,

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 3: you enjoyed that. Louis Armstrong man enjoyed that immensely. We've

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01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: got two segments coming back. We'll start with a Little

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 3: Reds Baseball and what's happened since the last time we spoke,

1414
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: and uh, maybe a couple of questions we still have

1415
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: about this team between now. In ten days from now,

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01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:30,879
Speaker 3: when opening Day happens at Great American Ballpark, Austin, myself

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 3: and Mo will be just a block and a bridge

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 3: away from the ballpark at Smoke Justice for our pregame

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01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 3: show and then make the walk. So join us at

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 3: Smoke Justice on an opening day and then make your

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01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 3: way over to the ballpark as well. We'll be right

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01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 3: back to talk a Little Reds on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 4: You'll usual.

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three sixty fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: ten days away from opening day for the Cincinnati Reds.

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 3: Any number tens jump out to you, Austin for the

1428
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Reds.

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01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 4: Sparky Anderson, Yeah, old spark.

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01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 3: Sparky Anderson, not just Sparky Anderson, Sparky Adams.

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01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 4: What did you call me?

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01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: Sparky Adams?

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:22,719
Speaker 4: Wow?

1434
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: Way back when? Really no other names that jump out

1435
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: on this list?

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01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 4: Well, ten's been retired for a long time, hasn't it?

1437
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 3: Eddie Taubinson remember Eddie?

1438
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 4: Of course? Who could forget Bip Roberts Bip.

1439
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 3: Now nineteen eighty seven, Austin, Tito the Magnificent Dawn Number ten?

1440
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 4: That is true? Is one season with the Reds. Didn't

1441
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 4: he hit a home run on opening day or something?

1442
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 4: What's the story on there? But he coached Ken Griffey

1443
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 4: juniors or Michael Jordan as well? Is that right? Yep?

1444
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 4: That and aj Green can juggle? Yep? Who is it

1445
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,759
Speaker 4: to Stafford and played baseball each other? What about Virgil

1446
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 4: stall Cup, Oh, Verge stall Cup. That's what those guys

1447
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 4: back in the steroid era used to do. If you

1448
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 4: know what I mean? I don't know what you mean okay. Anyways,

1449
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 4: Virgil stall Cup, there is a little bit of Red's

1450
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 4: news to talk about. Well, we have a couple of

1451
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 4: minutes here. So Terry Francona announced today that the number

1452
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 4: two slot in the lineup has been decided. It's going

1453
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 4: to Matt McClain. Why not, Matt McClain is going to

1454
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 4: hit second in the Reds lineup. In twenty twenty six,

1455
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 4: Charlie Goldsmith wrote about this. The quote from McClain says,

1456
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 4: I know what I need to do. He has a

1457
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 4: plan in place for twenty twenty six. According to Charlie, also,

1458
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 4: the Reds have made a couple of other decisions to

1459
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 4: move some guys around. Uh and if I can ever

1460
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 4: find what those transactions were, right here minor league camp

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 4: now is going to get left hander Anthony Yeah, I

1462
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 4: don't know how to say his name, Miss Sinowitch. Sure

1463
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 4: he's been reassigned to minor league camp. They've also optioned

1464
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 4: to Triple A Louisville and assigned a minor league camp

1465
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:17,839
Speaker 4: outfielder Blake Dunn. The Reds also have informed Garrett Hampson

1466
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 4: and a couple of other guys that they are not

1467
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 4: going to make the big league club, but did invite

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01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 4: them to stay in Big league spring training camp and

1469
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 4: they all agreed to do that. Okay. Garrett Hampson was

1470
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 4: one for twenty two in spring training this year, so

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Speaker 4: I don't know that he's gonna maybe latch on anywhere.

1472
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 3: But we got some other Reds news as well. Their

1473
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Hall of Fame Induction celebration weekend is

1474
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 3: gonna happen on April twenty fourth, twenty fifth, and twenty sixth.

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01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: That's of course. Brandon Phillips, Aaron Harang, Reggie Sanders, and

1476
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 3: Lou Penela all to be honored over the weekend, of course,

1477
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 3: so it should be an awesome Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

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01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 4: It's great. Garrett Hampton, Will Banfield, PJ Higgins have all

1479
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 4: been they will not make the team. They are all

1480
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 4: non roster guys. Friend Tacona told them they could remain

1481
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 4: in the big league camp if they wanted, an all

1482
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 4: three agreed. That's according to Mark Sheldon. Also earlier today,

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01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,560
Speaker 4: C Trent Rosecrans gave his Reds roster projection okay, and

1484
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 4: left out Chase Burns huh, saying that Chase Burns would

1485
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 4: not make the team in his projection based off of

1486
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 4: the Reds being overly precautionary with his shoulder, so Burns

1487
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 4: was supposed to start and go an extended amount of

1488
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 4: time Friday. He didn't. He threw just twenty four pitches

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 4: and the Reds pulled him. Here's what C. Trent Rosecrans wrote,

1490
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 4: Burns threw just twenty four pitches in his start Friday.

1491
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 4: The Reds didn't like how Burns's arm was moving and

1492
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 4: were addressing it right off the bat. If Burns isn't

1493
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 4: built up to where other starters are, it may be

1494
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 4: best to air on the side of caution with what

1495
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 4: could be a generational arm. Burns figures to be a

1496
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 4: big part of the Reds pitching staff this season, so

1497
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 4: slow playing burns contribution makes all the sense in the world,

1498
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 4: especially with how Williamson has comported himself this spring training. That,

1499
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 4: of course, Brandon Williamson. In Sea Trench's projection, he has

1500
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Speaker 4: the starting rotation being Abbott, Lodolo, Singer, Louder and Williamson

1501
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 4: now on the contrary to that. Earlier today, Charlie Goldsmith

1502
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 4: was reporting on Chase Burns said Chase Burns through a

1503
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 4: bullpen yesterday that went very well. They are very pleased

1504
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 4: with how he looks right now. This is according to

1505
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 4: a conversation that Terry Francona had with the media earlier

1506
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 4: this morning. So I think there's a little bit of

1507
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 4: confusion about this, and this might be a good question

1508
01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 4: for Charlie on Friday, But it sounds like the Reds

1509
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 4: and listening to Tommy and Cowboy over the weekend too

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01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: kind of made it sound like the Reds are trying

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Speaker 4: to help him establish a routine that Chase Burns can

1512
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 4: consistently get through as a starting pitcher, Okay, and that

1513
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 4: probably means the way he warms up, the way he

1514
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 4: goes throughout the week, the way that he can execute

1515
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 4: and consistently keep his arm in the right angles. Maybe

1516
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 4: is that's something I would like some clarity on that.

1517
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure that'll be something to talk to Charlie about.

1518
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 4: Maybe on Thursday, we'll see if we can talk to Charlie.

1519
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 3: And it was interesting as well because the twenty four

1520
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 3: pitches on Friday the previous out, and he threw like

1521
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 3: what sixty eight sixty eight pitches, So a significant step back,

1522
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 3: but obviously something to watch out for as we are

1523
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 3: closer and closer to opening day. Also something as of note,

1524
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 3: I saw this a couple of days ago, and I

1525
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 3: don't have the updated numbers in front of me, but

1526
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 3: the Reds tweeted out a couple of days ago Austin

1527
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 3: Matt McClain in spring training. And I know we over

1528
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 3: hype spring training a lot, but home runs, RBIs, hits

1529
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: runs average, slugging and ops. Matt McClain was leading all

1530
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 3: of spring training in baseball in those categories. Yeah, and

1531
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 3: just hit another one yesterday.

1532
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 4: I believe as of today that's all still correct. He's

1533
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 4: tied for the league lead now in homers with Shay

1534
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 4: Langeliers from the Athletics, but they both have six. Yeah,

1535
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 4: but as you mentioned, hits, ops, slugging, on base precision average,

1536
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 4: Matt McCain leads everything.

1537
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: This is where it gets hard to because we're we

1538
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 3: talk about this constantly. I don't overreact to spring training,

1539
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 3: but you have to have some type of reaction to

1540
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 3: what Matt McLain is doing, especially coming off in abysmal

1541
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 3: season last year.

1542
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1543
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and to show enough that he's going to be

1544
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 3: the number two.

1545
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. The fact that that decision has been made, and

1546
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 4: I know we're only ten days away from opening day,

1547
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 4: so eventually it was going to have to be made.

1548
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 4: But listening as well to what Jeff Brantley was saying

1549
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 4: over the weekend, you know he said that the first

1550
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 4: ten or twelve days of spring training he doesn't put

1551
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:06,599
Speaker 4: anything into those results because the pitchers are usually well

1552
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 4: behind and they're working on stuff, and he doesn't put

1553
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 4: a lot of stock onto that. But from that point

1554
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 4: forward he starts to pay attention because you're facing guys

1555
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 4: that are more than likely going to be on the

1556
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 4: big league team, and they've got their repertoire down and

1557
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 4: they've got their arm angles some of that stuff, and

1558
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 4: clearly Matt McClain has done a great job facing those

1559
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: types of pictures to this point, Yeah.

1560
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: You want to know the impact that Chase Burns can

1561
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 3: have on this team. JEFFPASSONDESPN dot Com went through each

1562
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,480
Speaker 3: major League Baseball team and kind of gave a surprise

1563
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: a fantasy tidbit and what the season hinges on. So

1564
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 3: for the Reds, a fantasy tidbit is South Stewart. It

1565
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise Passing if the Reds not only made the playoffs,

1566
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: but won a playoff series, and then he says the

1567
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 3: season hinges on Chase Burns. It's quite a thing to

1568
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 3: say a playoffs team season comes down to a rookie.

1569
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 3: But that's how much difference Chase Burns can be. He

1570
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 3: demonstrated it in twenty twenty four over forty three and

1571
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 3: a third innings for the Reds. Third highest rate from

1572
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: a strikeout standpoint fourteen hitters per nine innings by pitching,

1573
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 3: plus a metric that measures the quality of a pitcher's

1574
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 3: stuff in location, only thirteen pitchers were better last year.

1575
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 3: So as brutal as it is for the Reds to

1576
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 3: lose Hunter Green until July, Burns is a worthy replacement.

1577
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 3: So I think, Austin, when you think what C. Trent

1578
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 3: said and then what Charlie said. Obviously this is magnified

1579
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 3: because Hunter Green is not with his team until July.

1580
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 3: And it's one thing to talk about limiting Chase Burns

1581
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: if a healthy Hunter Green is there. If you're without

1582
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,680
Speaker 3: Hunter Green and something were to come up and then

1583
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 3: you're without Chase Burns, now you're uphill without a paddle. Yep,

1584
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 3: you're right, no, so it gets much more difficult. So

1585
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 3: I agree, a lot hinge is on uh on Chase Burns,

1586
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 3: so be a little bit cautious, nip it into butt

1587
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 3: early and uh and make sure Chase Burns is.

1588
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 4: Ready to go. But ten days away from the Reds

1589
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 4: being ready to go on opening day, Roman Anthony, oh

1590
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 4: what he do is gonna set another nuke playing uh

1591
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 4: for the World Baseball Classic team, the USA team in

1592
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 4: the World Baseball Classic Final. Another big homer last night

1593
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 4: for the United States. The Reds will have to face

1594
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 4: him on opening Day and uh, you know, good thing,

1595
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 4: good time to throw a couple of lefties. If it's

1596
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,839
Speaker 4: gonna be Abbott and Lodolo to start the season, obviously,

1597
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be Crochet and uh Suarez to

1598
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 4: start the season for Boston as well. Yeah, but do

1599
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 4: you want to overreact? I'm excited like that. That is

1600
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 4: actually such a fun series to start the season. Yeah,

1601
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 4: and like there's some good go there. Yeah. I mean

1602
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 4: people in Boston are comparing Roman Anthony to Ted Williams,

1603
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: which is read, but they're doing it.

1604
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: Do you want to uh, do you want to overreact

1605
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: to Suarez hitting just one sixty seven in the World

1606
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 3: Baseball Classic.

1607
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 4: No good, I've kind I don't know if you remember

1608
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 4: this or not, but I did kind of tell people.

1609
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:16,560
Speaker 3: That you got to be able to live with this

1610
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 3: with the u Hango swarrez. That's correct, that's correct. His

1611
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 3: Venezuelan team will take on Italy tonight. It won six

1612
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: hundred feet tonight, and then the winner of that will

1613
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 3: we'll play the United States tomorrow night for an opportunity

1614
01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: to claim the title of the World Baseball Classic. We'll

1615
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 3: be back, we'll finish up hour number two. We'll get

1616
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:39,839
Speaker 3: to our three where we're gonna have a lot of football,

1617
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 3: a lot of Bengals, and a lot of U five one,

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Speaker 3: three seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. It's since he three

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Speaker 3: sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station from.

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Speaker 4: The Anie Weather.

1621
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 3: Welcome back, since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

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01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,920
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. We have a lot to get to

1623
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 3: that we missed last week regarding the NFL and the

1624
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals, and we'll do that when we kick off

1625
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 3: the third and final hour. We also welcome in your

1626
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 3: phone calls five one, three, seven four nine, fifteen thirty.

1627
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 3: Before we get to any of that, though, Austin I

1628
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 3: have a feeling listeners like giveaways. On this show, we

1629
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 3: always have fun with giveaways, so we would be remissed.

1630
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 3: With the NCAA tournament getting ready to kick off this

1631
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 3: week and a champion, we'll be crowned here very soon.

1632
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: In college basketball, we have an opportunity, thanks to our

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Speaker 3: friends at Twin Peaks, to win a VIP table for

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01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,600
Speaker 3: four to watch the championship game at Twin Peaks. The

1635
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,719
Speaker 3: winner also was going to get a two hundred dollars

1636
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 3: gift card for food and drinks. So imagine this, Austin.

1637
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 3: You enter this contest, you win, You pick three of

1638
01:29:55,720 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 3: your closest friends, loved ones, family members, signific another whoever

1639
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 3: you want to bring along. You get a table for

1640
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 3: four to watch the final college basketball game at Twin Peaks,

1641
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 3: a two hundred dollars gift card that you can use

1642
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 3: for food and drink as well, And all you need

1643
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 3: to do is go to ESPN fifteen thirty dot com

1644
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 3: to enter for your chance to win. And if you

1645
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: don't win the grand prize, we're also going to be

1646
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: giveaway runner up prizes as well. All of this, according

1647
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 3: to my understanding, Austin, happens at ESPN fifteen thirty dot com.

1648
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 3: What an awesome opportunity Twin Peaks, college basketball, food drinks fun.

1649
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 3: Go to ESPN fifteen thirty dot com to enter for

1650
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 3: your chance to win. A lot has happened with the

1651
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals from the last time we had a chance

1652
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: to speak on these airwaves. We'll track all of that

1653
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 3: and more around the National Football League to kick off

1654
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 3: our number three next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

1655
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 3: this is tell me.

1656
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Pikes Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This is

1657
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1658
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Speaker 3: All right, our number three, Cincy three to sixty ESPN

1659
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station five one, three, seven, four nine,

1660
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,600
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty is the number to call. Look forward to

1661
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: hearing from you in the hour. Let's talk some NFL.

1662
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 3: Let's talk some Cincinnati Bengals. There has been a lot

1663
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 3: austin of movement since the last time we spoke last week,

1664
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 3: and a lot of that movement. Let's stick to just

1665
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 3: the Bengals to start, and then in the next segment

1666
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 3: we'll expand this to an NFL as a whole segment.

1667
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 3: But for the Bengals alone. Let's start with the move

1668
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 3: to bring back Orlando Brown junior two year contract extension.

1669
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 3: It does lower the cap hit this year. This is

1670
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 3: a move I I guess I can get behind if

1671
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 3: we're talking about O line depth, but I can't help

1672
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 3: but think here. Often the last time we spoke, we

1673
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 3: talked about Orlando Brown Junior potentially being the weak spot

1674
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 3: to address on the offensive line. If the Bengals could

1675
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 3: get their work done leading up to the draft, maybe

1676
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 3: it would allow them, if there's a tackle there at

1677
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 3: number ten, to go that route twofold.

1678
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 4: Here does that.

1679
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 3: Change with the Orlando Brown junior extension and how do

1680
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 3: you feel about the extension itself.

1681
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,719
Speaker 4: I didn't really have much of a reaction to Orlando

1682
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 4: Brown Junior signing an extension. It was more like, oh, okay,

1683
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 4: that's cool. Lower the cappit a little bit, kick the

1684
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 4: can down the road. That's my thought process on it.

1685
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 4: I think I would most people would agree with you

1686
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 4: that Orlando Brown Junior was the spot in the Bengals

1687
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 4: offensive line in which you probably had the least faith

1688
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 4: by the time the end of the year. World around

1689
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 4: last year, He's okay, He's fine. I think he needs

1690
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 4: to get in or shape. I think he can still

1691
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,760
Speaker 4: play good football. I don't think he's worth giving up on.

1692
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 4: We had that conversation earlier this offseason. So this deal

1693
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 4: kind of works for both sides. He gets the assurance

1694
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 4: of another year he's able to, you know, settle his mind.

1695
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 4: I guess as far as that's concerned, and the Bengals

1696
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 4: don't paint themselves into a corner of having to draft

1697
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 4: an offensive lineman at number ten or maybe having to

1698
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 4: spend an offensive a pick on an offensive lineman at

1699
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 4: any point. Yea, if they are between multiple guys coming

1700
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,640
Speaker 4: up in the draft, they still need to address the

1701
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 4: depth of that position. I'm not going to shut up

1702
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 4: about it all offseason, but but this at least kicks

1703
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 4: the can down the road and virtually eliminates the idea

1704
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 4: of the Bengals taking a offensive tackle at number ten

1705
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 4: in the draft. Yeah.

1706
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 3: I think, if anything, it does eliminate tackle off the board.

1707
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,920
Speaker 3: The other move that the Bengals have made defensive tackle

1708
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,599
Speaker 3: Jonathan Allen is a Cincinnati Bengal on a two year,

1709
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 3: twenty six million day deal. The deal can be up

1710
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 3: to twenty eight million dollars with incentives. Jonathan Allen is

1711
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 3: thirty one years old. He was a cap casualty of

1712
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings. It's a position of need, it's a

1713
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: player who has value. It's a player who's performed highly

1714
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 3: in the National Football League. Last year out of that

1715
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 3: detackle slot, he had three and a half sacks. He's

1716
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 3: had seasons with the Washington Commanders with nine and seven

1717
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 3: and a half and five and a half sacks. So

1718
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 3: he is a guy who's done this over a long

1719
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 3: period of time. And while I think there were some

1720
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 3: other names out there, we'll talk about linebacker. This felt

1721
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 3: like a nice little addition. It just kind of felt

1722
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 3: like everything else to me. Austin of, Okay, here's an addition,

1723
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 3: what's next? There really wasn't the next. But Jonathan Allen

1724
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 3: in a nutshell itself, to you mean means what.

1725
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 4: It means that they thinking about their compensatory picks for

1726
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:06,519
Speaker 4: next year. They were reportedly in on John Franklin Myers,

1727
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 4: and I believe that they were truly in on John

1728
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 4: Franklin Myers, but they didn't spend that amount of money

1729
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,480
Speaker 4: on him, and if they had, that would have eliminated

1730
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:18,679
Speaker 4: the case for a compensatory pick in the Trey Hendrickson situation.

1731
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 4: So Hendrickson leaves, the Bengals basically get that compensatory pick,

1732
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,040
Speaker 4: and because Jonathan Allen's going to be cut by his team,

1733
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:30,360
Speaker 4: you can sign him without jeopardizing that compensatory pick. By

1734
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 4: the time that all rolled around, there was nobody good

1735
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 4: enough left on the defensive line that felt like you

1736
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 4: were going to be able to tick off the boxes

1737
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,639
Speaker 4: that you wanted. And so because of that, you protect

1738
01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 4: the compensatory pick. You get a veteran leader, You get

1739
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 4: somebody who can rush the passer a little bit from

1740
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 4: the interior. You get somebody who is a Walter Payton

1741
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 4: Man of the Year nominee, who I think some would

1742
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: argue was not necessarily a scheme fit with Minnesota. I

1743
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: don't know if that's necessarily true. Some would argue that

1744
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 4: guy who can desperately provide leadership to that defense. Now

1745
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 4: maybe not in the linebacker room, but can provide leadership

1746
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 4: to the defense.

1747
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: So let's take an inventory of where things are at.

1748
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 3: They've added I would call Austin three solid players on

1749
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. Would you agree, yes,

1750
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:25,759
Speaker 3: good fits? They did lose their most proven pass rusher,

1751
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson, is now Baltimore Raven, which we'll get to

1752
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 3: in a few moments. What do you make about the

1753
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 3: cap hits on the free agents that are limiting their

1754
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 3: space and ability to move right now?

1755
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, without a doubt, the most frustrating part of this

1756
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 4: whole thing. I think it's twofold number one that according

1757
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,599
Speaker 4: to Paul Danner Junior's reporting this morning in The Athletic

1758
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 4: and Paul, by the way, is going to be with

1759
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 4: Moe this afternoon on his show instead of the normal

1760
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:54,759
Speaker 4: Tuesday spot. According to Paul, the Bengals were never interested

1761
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 4: in Caden Ellis or leo' chanel, which is mind boggling

1762
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 4: considering the words that were coming from the Bengals, both

1763
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 4: Duke Tobin and Al Golden and others at the scouting

1764
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,080
Speaker 4: combine and at their end of the year press conferences.

1765
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 4: That doesn't add up, and so I don't understand why

1766
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 4: that was the case. And then additionally, the way the

1767
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 4: Bengals like to do business is that they will front

1768
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 4: load contracts and they will do heavy cap pits in

1769
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 4: year number one so that they can mitigate the risk

1770
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: and have more control later Okay, that's a way of

1771
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 4: doing business, but it unfortunately lessens your odds and your

1772
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 4: ability to be able to get impact players on the roster.

1773
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 4: And that's what the Bengals have done. Brian Cook, Boye Mafe.

1774
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 4: Those dudes have insane year one cap pits, much larger

1775
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 4: than just about anybody else in the National Football League

1776
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 4: this year, including some of the huge names that have

1777
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 4: come off the board. And for that reason, because the

1778
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:00,600
Speaker 4: Bengals kind of paint themselves into that corner, they and

1779
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 4: because of the way they do business, can't get more

1780
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 4: impact players. And defense. Those three players are good. Okay,

1781
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 4: defense isn't good enough. Let me let me play dumb here,

1782
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 4: let me play just a situation. Explain it to me,

1783
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 4: Like I'm a ten year old.

1784
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 3: I watch quarterbacks across the National Football League constantly restructuring

1785
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 3: their deal to add more cap space. I've even seen

1786
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:36,040
Speaker 3: skilled players do the same. The Bengals have not done

1787
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,639
Speaker 3: that with Joe Burrow. They've not done it with anybody,

1788
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase, anyone else. Can you explain to me like

1789
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 3: I'm an infant?

1790
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 4: Why no, I can't.

1791
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 3: It's inexplicable, Like this is this is a free strategy

1792
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 3: to use that other teams clearly use at their disposal. Yes,

1793
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: why is it not being done here?

1794
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. It's it's very easy

1795
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 4: to do. It's it's it's not like it requires a

1796
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 4: you know, a capologist. It's not like you have to

1797
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 4: run the numbers a thousand times. Joe Burrow's okay with this, right, Yeah,

1798
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 4: Burrow has He's talked about that. He said it. I

1799
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 4: think it was last year during the Super Bowl. He's like, yeah,

1800
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:17,519
Speaker 4: if we need to do that, we'll do that. I

1801
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 4: want to do that. Like, and if you're Burrow, of

1802
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 4: course you can sign the paper and get the money

1803
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 4: right away.

1804
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 3: I don't understand why you don't do it.

1805
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:27,760
Speaker 4: I don't either.

1806
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 3: Every it's almost like a yearly routine at this point. Like,

1807
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: let's guess the date when Patrick Mahomes is going to

1808
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 3: restructure to free up money for the Kansas City Chiefs. Yep,

1809
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 3: go up and down the list on a team that

1810
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 3: desperately needs help, and as you mentioned, Austin has frontloaded

1811
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 3: these contracts to a way that they don't have a

1812
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,560
Speaker 3: lot of money left available. Here's a way to restructure,

1813
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 3: here's a way to free up some of those dollars. Yeah,

1814
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 3: and you don't have to twist your quarterback's arm to

1815
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 3: do so. It feels like a layup.

1816
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's because it is. And like you know, the

1817
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 4: whole idea of trading for Max Crosby, I think that's

1818
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 4: a fever dream, but it could very much be a

1819
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 4: reality if they were to restructure Joe Burrow's contract. Like

1820
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 4: that could immediately become a realistic possibility if they restructure

1821
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 4: Joe's contract. And basically, so people understand, the restructure is

1822
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 4: you take the money that's supposed to be a part

1823
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: of his base salary and you convert it to a

1824
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 4: signing bonus, which means it comes off the cap number

1825
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 4: and goes directly into Joe's wallache. And the other thing

1826
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 4: here is there is for some reason a narrative out

1827
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 4: there that exists that the Bengals are cash poor. That's

1828
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 4: not true. That's a fallacy. They have plenty of cash.

1829
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, the NFL is about the

1830
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 4: renegotiated deal with CBS. That's going to be billions and

1831
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,799
Speaker 4: billions of dollars and that's all part of the league's

1832
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 4: revenue share. That's all coming right back to the Bengals.

1833
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 4: The league writes them a check for three hundred and

1834
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 4: fifty million dollars a year before they even do anything.

1835
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 4: The Bengals are not poor, I can promise you that

1836
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 4: the way they choose to do business severely limits their

1837
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 4: ability to actually compete for players in the free agent

1838
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 4: market and eventually on the field. And it's a shame

1839
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 4: like it really is. And it's why the whole Duke

1840
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 4: Tobin's the quote about them being all in, it's why

1841
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,799
Speaker 4: he's so full of crap. And anybody on that organization

1842
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 4: who tells you they're all in is lying to your

1843
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 4: face because they aren't doing the things that they could

1844
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 4: be doing to actually be all in.

1845
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 3: I know what we think. Do you think there are

1846
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 3: people behind those walls at pay Course Stadium that think

1847
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 3: they've done enough defensively to this point? I bet there are, yes,

1848
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 3: because you and I are an agreement. They haven't no

1849
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 3: good moves, good pieces, not clearly enough. The people there

1850
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 3: that think they've done enough, all right, we're good. They

1851
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 3: have no depth on the defensive line, They have no

1852
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 3: depth in the linebacker room. They don't even have a

1853
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 3: fourth corner on the right Foster right now, and they

1854
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 3: have no depth at safety. And this is all overshadowed

1855
01:42:06,280 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 3: by something Joe Burrow said about this season is quote paramount.

1856
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:14,080
Speaker 3: This offseason is paramount. And again they've done some good

1857
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 3: stuff Dalton Reisner, the Trey Hendrickson situation, because they they

1858
01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 3: made the right football move. But in doing so, you

1859
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,519
Speaker 3: do lose your proven pass rusher. You brought in now

1860
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 3: three good players on defense, solid players, but the cap

1861
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 3: hits are atrocious. And for whatever reason, while every other

1862
01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 3: quarterback restructures their deal, the Bengals will not do that

1863
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 3: with Joe Burrow. So at this point March sixteenth, how

1864
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 3: do you rate the offseason?

1865
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 4: See? Okay, I think it's D D plus. Yeah, it's

1866
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,840
Speaker 4: And that's not to take away from Boye Mafe and

1867
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:58,280
Speaker 4: Brian Cook so much to do, not even Jonathan Allen

1868
01:42:58,439 --> 01:42:59,920
Speaker 4: like and we don't by the way, we don't have

1869
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,479
Speaker 4: the numbers yet for Jonathan Allen. We don't know exactly

1870
01:43:02,560 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 4: what the structure of that deal looks like. But I mean,

1871
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 4: they have severely limited their ability to improve the other

1872
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 4: parts of the defense. And so as it stands right now,

1873
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 4: the way I think the team is built, I think

1874
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,800
Speaker 4: they're gonna run it back with the linebackers. I think

1875
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 4: they're going to draft a corner back at number ten,

1876
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:27,720
Speaker 4: And by the way, drafting a corner and then dip

1877
01:43:27,760 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 4: it into the dtackle market in the second round, that's

1878
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 4: not a bad strategy. I actually have no problem with

1879
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 4: that whatsoever. But again, based on Paul's reporting, it sounds

1880
01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,719
Speaker 4: like they're not even gonna consider the extensions to Dax

1881
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 4: Dacks Hill, Dax Hill, and DJ Turner until after the NFL.

1882
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 3: Draft, which is something we discussed earlier.

1883
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,479
Speaker 4: Those decisions, you know, the decisions that they make in

1884
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,080
Speaker 4: the draft, and I would almost guarantee you they're going

1885
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 4: to draft a corner, whether it's at number ten or

1886
01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 4: another point in the draft, that could have an effect

1887
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 4: on those negotiations. They consistently make things harder on themselves,

1888
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 4: and I just don't think that Joe Burrow's patience is

1889
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 4: going to last much longer. And I hope that you know,

1890
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 4: I'm sure Joe looks at this and is not happy.

1891
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,160
Speaker 4: And I'm sure he looks at the players and knows

1892
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:25,880
Speaker 4: that this defense isn't good enough. I'm sure that he

1893
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 4: looks around said I'd like to have a guy outside

1894
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 4: of Andre Josevash that can get open. I'd like to

1895
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 4: have another tight end. These are all attainable pieces if

1896
01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 4: you structure contracts correctly. And I hope that Joe eventually

1897
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 4: loses his mind and says what everybody else is thinking,

1898
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 4: that this isn't good enough, because you know, you know

1899
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,200
Speaker 4: how we always hear about, you know, the whole Joe

1900
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 4: Burrow thing when he gets drafted. Oh, the Bengals are

1901
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 4: going to ruin him, or that that's where quarterbacks go

1902
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 4: to die, or the Bengals. That's just not the way

1903
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 4: they things. This is the reason that narrative exists because

1904
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 4: they do business a certain way that severely limits their

1905
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,680
Speaker 4: ability to compete and to build out the rest of

1906
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 4: their rosterure. And so you are relying on Burrow and

1907
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 4: Chase and others to play hero ball. You're relying on

1908
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 4: young players to develop quickly. And that is not entirely

1909
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 4: a horrible strategy. They almost won the Super Bowl. They

1910
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 4: were one play away from that strategy working. However, you

1911
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 4: have to play nearly perfect, you have to be almost

1912
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 4: entirely healthy. You can't have things go wrong. You put

1913
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 4: sometimes your fate in the hands of other teams winning

1914
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 4: and losing games. It requires damn near perfection for that

1915
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,639
Speaker 4: type of plan to work, and it puts a lot

1916
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 4: on the shoulders of Joe Burrow, puts a lot on

1917
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,879
Speaker 4: the shoulders of Jamar Chase. And while it is possible,

1918
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 4: it's a lot less likely based on off the way

1919
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 4: they do things. Just trying to point out that the

1920
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 4: narrative from the national media that everybody gets all hot

1921
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 4: and bothered with with this organization exists for a reason,

1922
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 4: and it's because they do stuff like this. Yep.

1923
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 3: They make the easy stuff at times look hard, and

1924
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:22,560
Speaker 3: this is the latest instance of that. While the blueprint

1925
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 3: is out there, we mentioned all the time, like I

1926
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 3: talk about it, it should be a copycat league, right

1927
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,080
Speaker 3: that goes to plays on the field. You see a

1928
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 3: team that runs a play steal it, you're allowed to

1929
01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 3: do that. But if you watch how other front offices

1930
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 3: work this and make these things work financially, you're allowed

1931
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 3: to replicate that. You're allowed to do that as well.

1932
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:46,240
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, the Bengals will. The Bengals fail to

1933
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 3: do that, and it's now put themselves in again, what

1934
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 3: is a pivotal off season. And while they have made

1935
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 3: some good moves. It just kind of is the feeling

1936
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 3: I've had the last couple of years of I'm left

1937
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 3: wanting more, left, I'm wondering, why haven't they done more.

1938
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 3: That's an uneasy feeling when the word paramount was used

1939
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:10,400
Speaker 3: by your quarterback in describing this offseason.

1940
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Speaker 4: And I think the other thing, too, is like this

1941
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 4: is not like they're not stupid people. I will continue

1942
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 4: to pound that drum. I think Mike and Katie and

1943
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 4: Troy are all very very smart people, and they know

1944
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 4: how the cap works and they know the ways around it.

1945
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 4: But they have a philosophical belief and a philosophic philosophy

1946
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 4: that is just completely different than those other teams. And

1947
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 4: that's fine to have that type of philosophy, but you

1948
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 4: can never say that you're all in on trying to

1949
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Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl if you subscribe to list this

1950
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 4: philosophy and are not willing to branch out. We've seen

1951
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 4: little breadcrumbs like the void years on the Trey Hendrickson thing,

1952
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 4: just a little breadcrumb of that here and there. You know,

1953
01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 4: a restructure would be a good example of that. I mean,

1954
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, trading away a draft pick would be a

1955
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 4: good example of that of fixing or being unafraid to

1956
01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 4: shift your philosophy. Yeah, I mean, listen to this.

1957
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 3: This was from Joe Goodbary yesterday, and this talks specifically

1958
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 3: about the cap hits, defensive ends in this cycle that

1959
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,720
Speaker 3: got multi year deals and their cap pits. Boy A

1960
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 3: Mafe seventeen million dollars. Listen to these, Jalen Phillips nine

1961
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Speaker 3: point nine, Joseph Osi seven point five, Bradley Chubb six

1962
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 3: point five, were Shan Gary five point four. How is

1963
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 3: there that big of a discrepancy? How about this top

1964
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 3: free agents available again, boy A Mafe seventeen million cap hit,

1965
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Speaker 3: Tyler Linderbaum Austin, his cap hit costs less than Boyle

1966
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Speaker 3: a Mafe sixteen million, Daniel Jones points center market, Brian

1967
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 3: Cook ten point seven, Alec Pierce do you talk about

1968
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 3: his monster deal nine point two cap pit, Kenneth Walker

1969
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,640
Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP five point seven million dollar cap pit.

1970
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 3: It's just when you look across the rest of the

1971
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,720
Speaker 3: John Franklin Myers, who the Bengals were reportedly in on

1972
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 3: fourteen point nine million dollar cappit, that's insane. The rest

1973
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 3: of the league, that's insane and there's no rhyme or

1974
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 3: reason as to why these hits are so big here

1975
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Speaker 3: in Cincinnati. I just don't understand it. Make that makes sense.

1976
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Speaker 3: Talk about the rest of the National Football League. A

1977
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2005
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 3: some we we got on social media. On X over

2006
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,800
Speaker 3: the Break Austin from Rob Johnson. He says, can you

2007
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 3: explain how front loading money is bad? Understand high cap

2008
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 3: hit this year, less available to spend, but doesn't it

2009
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 3: free up later money for next year or third year

2010
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 3: on these deals? Yes, but my thing is it's supposed

2011
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:38,639
Speaker 3: to be this offseason, like, do you want to run

2012
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 3: the risk and this is I'll get your thought here, Austin,

2013
01:51:41,400 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 3: but do you really want to run the risk of

2014
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 3: going through a losing season or missing the playoffs? And

2015
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 3: then go to Joe Burrow and say, but we frontloaded

2016
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 3: some of those contracts with cap hits, so now we've

2017
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 3: got more money to spend going forward. My thought is

2018
01:51:55,760 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 3: the time is now. You don't have time to push

2019
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 3: it back to two or three years down the road.

2020
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Speaker 3: That's why I think it's significant on the front loading

2021
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 3: on this side.

2022
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any problem with

2023
01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 4: wanting control and flexibility in future years. I think that's

2024
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 4: smart business, but it shouldn't come at the cost of

2025
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 4: being able to go all in and add more good

2026
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 4: players to your team. And that's where the Bengals screw

2027
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 4: it up. And so maybe if you have more you know,

2028
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,800
Speaker 4: contracts built into where you can restructure them in year

2029
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 4: number two and you can give more of that money

2030
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 4: in year number two, or if you add some of

2031
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 4: the void years, that can kind of lengthen out that

2032
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 4: cap hit. Like there are ways around it, and teams

2033
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,600
Speaker 4: across the league do it every year, so that not

2034
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 4: as much of that cap money is taken up in

2035
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 4: year number one. And you know, the Bengals historically if

2036
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 4: not guaranteed years beyond the second year. And that's a

2037
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 4: hold up at times with players, not with everybody, not

2038
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 4: with every contract. But yeah, you're right, the control and

2039
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 4: the flexibility in future years is good, and I don't

2040
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 4: fault them for wanting that, but unfortunately it's coming at

2041
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 4: the cost of being able to make your team better

2042
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 4: right now. And it shouldn't be about next year or

2043
01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 4: the year after that. It should be about, hey, how

2044
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:18,599
Speaker 4: do we win the Super Bowl right now? Priority? Because

2045
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 4: if they had done that last year, if they had said, Okay,

2046
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 4: we're scrowginostone, We're done with him, We're done with this guy,

2047
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 4: We're done with that guy. We're gonna push all our

2048
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 4: chips in. You had an AFC playoffs without Patrick Mahomes,

2049
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 4: without Lamar Jackson, you had a banged up Josh Allen

2050
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 4: Drake may like I'm betting on the Bengals every single time,

2051
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 4: and it just didn't you know that that's the missed

2052
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:42,320
Speaker 4: opportunities that they have.

2053
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,080
Speaker 3: The rest of the league. It was absolute madness last week.

2054
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,519
Speaker 3: The Max Crosby deal with the Baltimore Ravens. The word

2055
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 3: comes out that the Ravens were backing out of the deal,

2056
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 3: and they claim and again they claimed that it was

2057
01:53:57,960 --> 01:53:59,839
Speaker 3: something with the physical for Max Crosby.

2058
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 4: It just so happens that.

2059
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 3: Twelve thirteen hours after it was announced that the Ravens

2060
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 3: had pulled the plug on the Max Crosby deal, that

2061
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:15,160
Speaker 3: Baltimore agreed to terms with Trey Hendrickson four years, one

2062
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 3: hundred and twelve million, sixty million dollars guaranteed. And what

2063
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 3: it does for the Baltimore Ravens is it gives them

2064
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 3: back those two first round picks that they were going

2065
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 3: to lose in the Max Crosby deal. So, if you're

2066
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 3: the Ravens regardless, maybe you saw something you didn't like,

2067
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 3: or maybe you just saw that Trey Hendrickson was still

2068
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 3: out there and you wanted a way to make that happen.

2069
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 3: You get two first round picks back, you get the

2070
01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 3: top pass rusher at least on the market, and in

2071
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 3: doing so, what I don't understand, Austin is the domino

2072
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 3: effect that this causes across the league. Because the Raiders

2073
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 3: and other teams had made moves based on Max Crosby

2074
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 3: being dealt Other teams had made moves based on Trey

2075
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 3: Hendrickson's availability and the domino effect. Who knows how far

2076
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 3: out that went because teams maybe thought, Okay, Max Crosby's

2077
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 3: off the market, he's not available, let's move on to

2078
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:10,400
Speaker 3: something else, or teams that were maybe in the market

2079
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 3: on Trey Hendrickson now get passed up by the Baltimore Ravens.

2080
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 3: Just a weird, weird twenty four hours across the National

2081
01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 3: Football League and at the end of it, Trey Hendrickson

2082
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 3: ends up a Baltimore Raven. He's excited, he says, for

2083
01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 3: a fresh start, but it brings another valuable and good

2084
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 3: pass rusher to the AFC North. I don't think it

2085
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,720
Speaker 3: does much different. We had the conversation about going against

2086
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 3: Max Crosby and TJ. Watt and Miles Garrett. Now you

2087
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 3: just take out Max Crosby and throw Trey Hendrickson in

2088
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 3: the conversation. It's a challenge, and I think more importantly

2089
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 3: for Baltimore they keep those first round picks. What did

2090
01:55:48,040 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 3: you make of the way this deal or no deal

2091
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 3: went down with Crosby. I think it stinks to high

2092
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:56,360
Speaker 3: heaven Well. I think the Ravens knew about the medical

2093
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 3: issues with Max Crosby and with his knee, and once

2094
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 3: they realized that it might be a little bit longer

2095
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 3: than they thought, and that they were giving up two

2096
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 3: first round picks, and that the narrative for the most

2097
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,160
Speaker 3: part was wow. I can't believe a team actually gave

2098
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 3: up two first round picks. The reason that deal happened

2099
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 3: is because Baltimore was the only team who was willing

2100
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 3: to do that based off of Max Crosby's medicals. The

2101
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 3: Ravens talked to the doctors, they did all that they

2102
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:26,480
Speaker 3: knew it, and I think they had a change of

2103
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 3: heart once they got to Max Crosby. I do believe, though, honestly,

2104
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 3: that they were going to try to get Crosby and Hendrickson.

2105
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:36,280
Speaker 3: I believe that because when you look at Hendrickson's contract,

2106
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 3: it's basically two years for sixty million dollars. That's very affordable,

2107
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:44,680
Speaker 3: even with adding Max Crosby to the situation. And so

2108
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 3: I do think they were going to try to really

2109
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 3: evil Empire US there and do that, and good on

2110
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 3: them for taking a swing, and they just got cold feet,

2111
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 3: and so they settled for Trey Hendrickson, and you know,

2112
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 3: I've said it on my podcast and elsewhere. I welcome

2113
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 3: the challenge of Trey Hendrickson. He does not strike fear

2114
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 3: to me, fear in me in any way, shape or form,

2115
01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 3: And I I love it. I think it's a great story.

2116
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, the Bengals and Ravens are gonna

2117
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,280
Speaker 4: play in Primetime again, hopefully this time it's in Cincinnati.

2118
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think the Ravens I thought it was

2119
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 4: slimy from them. And you know, I know Will Compton

2120
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:25,920
Speaker 4: shared a story similar to what they did. They were

2121
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 4: going to sign Ryan Grant, a wide receiver he played

2122
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 4: with in Washington, and then Michael Crabtree got cut and

2123
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they failed Ryan Grant's physical and

2124
01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 4: he had missed a game in four years. So I

2125
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 4: think that sort of stuff happens. And you know, Drew

2126
01:57:40,240 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 4: Brees famously failed a physical. Then he went on to

2127
01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 4: the New Orleans Saints and was pretty good for a while.

2128
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the Ravens or the Raiders spent

2129
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 4: what two hundred and eighty north of two hundred and

2130
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 4: eighty million dollars, Yeah, and agency, I don't know that

2131
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:58,240
Speaker 4: it's the worst thing in the world to add Matt

2132
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 4: Max Crosby to that. And I do think there's a

2133
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 4: chance Max comes back, but I think it's more likely

2134
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 4: that Max will get traded either around the draft or

2135
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 4: leading up to training, keeps the Bengals once those medicals

2136
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,560
Speaker 4: will get a little bit more short.

2137
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 3: Up to the Bengals. No, what you give it a

2138
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 3: zero percent chance? Yes, if I could do negatives, I would. Okay,

2139
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 3: you know that was out there for a while. Bengals

2140
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 3: are going to get Max Crosby. Of course it was

2141
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 3: Bengals are going to get Max Crosby. Of course it

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Speaker 3: was would you welcome Max Crosby. I would love Max Crosby. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: even with the failed physical.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give up two first round picks

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Speaker 4: for Max Crosby, but I would take Max Crosby on

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Speaker 4: my team right away.

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Speaker 13: Now.

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Speaker 4: The issue is, you know he's going to hit the

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Speaker 4: quarterback in practice. We talked about that. Keep your hands

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Speaker 4: off my quarterback. But yeah, I would love to have them.

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Speaker 3: Some of the uh, the teams that have been in speculation,

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01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 3: the Niners, the Lions, the Bears. There, there's all been

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Speaker 3: a conversation around odds that that team could could be

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Speaker 3: in play, So we'll keep an eye on what happens

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Speaker 3: next to Max Crosby. We'll take our break when we

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Speaker 3: get back a little mock draft Monday ahead of what if.

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Speaker 4: We do a live mock draft? Oh? Any thoughts on that? Sure? O'ka? Next, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: let's do it. Okay. I have an idea on.

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Speaker 3: The ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 4: Hello, this is Titus uh Oh. Pick is in.

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Speaker 1: It's time for mock draft Monday on Cincy three sixty.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what does that mean? Oh? Sorry, it a little

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01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 4: bit late on a trigger there. Okay, okay, all right,

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01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 4: I want to do a live mock draft. Okay, I

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01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:52,720
Speaker 4: like it. So this is on PFF dot com. I

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Speaker 4: have it said to we are the Bengals and we

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01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 4: are going to see how the draft board plays out

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Speaker 4: in front of us and make our selection together. Okay,

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Speaker 4: are you ready? Let's do it. Okay, We're going to

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Speaker 4: start the draft right now. Fernando Mendoza goes number one.

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02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:13,040
Speaker 4: Sunny Styles goes number two to the Jets. Rvel Reese

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Speaker 4: number three to the Arizona Cardinals. Ruben Bain Junior four

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Speaker 4: to the Tennessee Titans. The fifth pick is Francis Malinoa

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Speaker 4: to the New York Giants. The Browns choose David Bailey

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Speaker 4: at pick number six. The Commanders took Jeremiah Love at

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Speaker 4: pick number seven. The Saints picked Mansword Delane with pick

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Speaker 4: number eighth. The Chiefs picked Caleb Downs with pick number nine.

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Speaker 4: Dirty dogs. So the Bengals have number ten. No Sonny Styles,

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Speaker 4: no Ruben Bain, no Mansord Delane, no Caleb Downs. This

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Speaker 4: is actually this is a perfect understand chance. Arvill Reese,

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Speaker 4: well rvel Reese was picked number three. Best available players

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Speaker 4: according to pro Foot was Tough, Carnell Tate, Okay Dylan

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Speaker 4: Theeneman begin again, Spencer Fano, Monroe Freeling, Kenyan, Sadik mackay

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Speaker 4: lemon oliviega Ione, Jermad McCoy, c j Allen, Jordan Tyson,

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Speaker 4: a Key Messador, Holy moly, your thoughts, Keldric Falk is available, Gosh,

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Speaker 4: Caden McDonald, pan, Peter Woods.

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Speaker 3: This is where you would have loved to get like

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Speaker 3: a linebacker off the board, because then I would have

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Speaker 3: opened up the conversation of Carnell Tate right like that

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Speaker 3: would have been a legit conversation.

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Speaker 4: And this is a perfect example of the situation that

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Speaker 4: they've put them. So then do you have to reach again? Correct,

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Speaker 4: you gotta go And and by the way, there are

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Speaker 4: three tackles or two tackles up here that I would take.

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Speaker 4: Monroe Freeling, I would take him, Spencer Fanu, I would

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Speaker 4: take him, Dylan Thieneman, I would take him. Yep. But

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Speaker 4: they've addressed those positions, and so assuming how they operate, yeah,

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Speaker 4: they're not gonna go after I would guess if I

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Speaker 4: were guessing who the Bengals would pick here, it would

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Speaker 4: be either Jermad McCoy, the corner from Tennessee, or Peter Woods,

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Speaker 4: the defensive tackle from Clemson.

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Speaker 3: So this so I ran while you were doing that.

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Speaker 3: I did the exact same thing, and I think both

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Speaker 3: of ours would would be cause for concern. The one

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Speaker 3: I did Mendoza one, Bayne two Styles three, Rvel Reach four,

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Speaker 3: Caleb Downs five, Maui Noahs six, Jeremiah Love seven, David

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Speaker 3: Bailey eight, Spencer and Fano nine. So you get up

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Speaker 3: there and again Mansur Delaine, Carnel Tait, Dylan Thineman, Monroe Freeling.

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Speaker 3: But again you lose that ability to say well, we

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Speaker 3: need a linebacker, you lose the ability to say well

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Speaker 3: we need edge rusher. So it comes to the conversation

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Speaker 3: that you and I have outlined many times often, and

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Speaker 3: that is when you get to number ten. Have you

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Speaker 3: done enough between now and then to go take the

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Speaker 3: best player on the or do you have to chase

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02:03:01,680 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 3: a position? And if the draft unfolds in the way

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Speaker 3: that it just unfolded for me or for you, all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, you now go into that conversation of

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Speaker 3: potentially reaching because you need a position more so than

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Speaker 3: the best player because you haven't done your job between

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Speaker 3: now and then.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say I'm going to make the pick

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Speaker 4: on based off what I think the Bengals would do

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Speaker 4: in this situation, and I'm going to draft r Maud

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Speaker 4: McCoy from Tennessee. Okay, so there you go. Okay, that's it, And.

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Speaker 3: Then we're gonna have the conversation about a drafting a

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Speaker 3: guy that didn't play it all last year, right right

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Speaker 3: like that, that's going to be the conversation. Regardless of

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Speaker 3: how he turns out or how good he is, the

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Speaker 3: conversation can be where you just took from our Stewart

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Speaker 3: who did no production and now another guy who had

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Speaker 3: zero production in twenty twenty five. Yeah, because you're not

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02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 3: taking care of your business. Now our business is being

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Speaker 3: taken care of. We stand on it here on sint

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Speaker 3: three sisiness Mowagger also a standard of business.

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Speaker 4: That those things are all computer generated. That was literally

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Speaker 4: the perfect scenario for that segment. YEP, shout out to

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Speaker 4: PFF love it.

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Speaker 3: Mo Eger's next with quick Kits ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Now it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes

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Speaker 1: since he.

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Speaker 4: Was looking for mo.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back since he three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station. The mo Egger Show comes up next. Uh,

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Speaker 3: but he joins us right now for quick hits ahead

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Speaker 3: of a very very busy week with the NCAA Tournament

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02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 3: getting under ten days till Red's opening day, and so

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Speaker 3: much to discuss with the Cincinnati Bengals. Mo, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: What do you got on the show today? I almost

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Speaker 3: forgot about this part of the day. Yes, well, we

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Speaker 3: haven't done a while.

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Speaker 4: I forgot that we did this.

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Speaker 3: Last time I talked to you, my heart was ripped out.

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Speaker 10: Usually I'm listening to Tom Leach and Chris Gibbons put

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Speaker 10: a bow in a seventy five minute postgame show. Yeah, huh,

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Speaker 10: Wildcats could have busted home in the time it took

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Speaker 10: from the postgame show.

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Speaker 4: To unfold last week. Let's go. I'll take it. Baseball

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02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:05,640
Speaker 4: weather outside? Can't wait for opening Day?

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02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 3: How many tweets are going on right now on social

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02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:10,320
Speaker 3: media about the snow outside?

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Speaker 6: A lot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? A lot? Yeah? What's going on? Fellas? Just great

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Speaker 4: to see you guys. It's great to be here. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I could be seen. Yeah.

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Speaker 10: What do we have coming up on the show? Travis

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Speaker 10: Steel Wow, head coach of the RedHawks. Okay, yeah, we

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Speaker 10: got him. He's going to be with a cent to

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Speaker 10: four twenty.

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Speaker 4: Now. I don't know if if you have a car

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02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:31,840
Speaker 4: dealership that you speak for. Moh, but could you ask I.

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Speaker 10: Just spent I just spent seventeen hundred dollars on car

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02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:39,040
Speaker 10: repairs today, so I wish I did have a car.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Could you ask him about why he loves that

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02:05:43,080 --> 02:05:44,200
Speaker 4: Cadillac hat so much?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Man time, Uh, he ain't doing it because he likes

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Speaker 10: supplying whatever they wanted me to wear. What else Danner's

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Speaker 10: going to be on the show, Paul Paul Day, I'm

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Speaker 10: off tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Oh took tomorrow off? Okay?

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Speaker 10: So Dan is going to be on the show today

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Speaker 10: to talk about why the Bengals don't want any linebackers.

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Speaker 3: So can you also ask him why they're spending so

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Speaker 3: much money on year one?

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Speaker 4: It's a lot, this weird man. Contracts are unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: Never again want to hear how cheap the Bengals are,

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Speaker 10: Never ever ever again you're paying Jonathan Allen Boye mafe

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Speaker 10: the kind of upfront money those dudes are getting.

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Speaker 4: If they got more than Lindaby You ever want to

2292
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Speaker 4: hear how cheap they are? Ever again?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 10: Hunter Sansom's going to be on the show the Bracketologist,

2295
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:32,400
Speaker 10: the Tri States official Bracketologist, get his thoughts on how

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Speaker 10: the tournament selection committee did. And the official Miami guy

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Speaker 10: of our show, Jeded de Mussey, is going to be

2298
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Speaker 10: on at four thirty three. We've got to talk about

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Speaker 10: why FC Cincinnati all of a sudden stinks, what the

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Speaker 10: committee got right and got wrong, which they really didn't

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Speaker 10: get anything wrong. Matt McLean's resurgence continues. Chase Burns Now

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Speaker 10: there's weirdness with him. There's a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I asked Austin. He was not able to

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Speaker 3: do it. Can you explain to me, like I'm an infant,

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Speaker 3: why every other team can restructure quarterback deals in the nation,

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Speaker 3: no Football league, but the Bengals cannot, even though Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow said yeah, I would do.

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Speaker 10: It ready, it's just not something they ah do. Okay,

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Speaker 10: all right, right, I mean that's the explanation for half

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Speaker 10: this time. It's not something I don't I don't understand

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Speaker 10: why it's like a non starter for them, even like,

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Speaker 10: especially when Joe's like, yeah, we need to do it, Yes,

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Speaker 10: let's go ahead and do it right.

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Speaker 4: It ain't like he's like, you know, stiff arm and

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Speaker 4: I'm going, uh uh no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Take a date every off season? Hey, what day do

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Speaker 3: you think Mahomes is going to restructure?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, makes no sense.

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Speaker 10: I do not watch the Academy Awards, not because I'm

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Speaker 10: anti Academy.

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Speaker 4: Awards, just not my thing.

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Speaker 10: I've watched the Academy Awards exactly once in my life.

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Speaker 10: It was nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 17: Uh.

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Speaker 4: For the most part, I really don't see the movies

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Speaker 4: that are nominated.

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Speaker 10: But I was, uh, you know, had the World Baseball

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Speaker 10: Class that going on last night, and then Nick's Warriors

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Speaker 10: game going on last night. I look at social media

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Speaker 10: and there's a tweet from the Inquirer headline Leo DiCaprio

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Speaker 10: spotted sitting up front at Academy Awards.

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Speaker 4: H No, kidding. Wouldn't it have been a bigger story

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Speaker 4: had he been in the balcony? Probably?

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Speaker 16: Right?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that's that's like, it's news that he

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Speaker 10: was sitting in the He's Leo DiCaprio. It would be

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Speaker 10: news if he was like sitting in the back or

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Speaker 10: not allowed him, denied admission frontage.

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Speaker 3: Just wanted to get that off my chest. Yeah, very well.

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Speaker 10: Also, my guy on CBS, Adam Zucker, they announced Miami

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Speaker 10: is going to go to the tournament as the in

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Speaker 10: the Dayton first four. He's like, oh, you know what,

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Speaker 10: Miami just about a two hour ride. I'm like, two

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Speaker 10: hour ride by bicycle maybe, huh. It's the campus I

2346
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Speaker 10: went to as a U D student to try to

2347
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Speaker 10: meet pretty girls.

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Speaker 3: It's a big thing though, distance in between games that

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Speaker 3: people have to travel away.

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Speaker 4: My friend, look at a map.

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Speaker 3: If there was one team that has a right, you

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Speaker 3: have it. No, none of these teams have a grind.

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Speaker 3: What about the Johnny's as a five?

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Speaker 10: No, the Big East stunk and when they played anybody

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Speaker 10: good outside of Coffin didn't win. Like, No, they they

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Speaker 10: were seated appropriately. They're in the death region, but no,

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02:09:15,320 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 10: they were seated appropriately. I know it was said on

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Speaker 10: the show on CBS last night that Perdue there was

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Speaker 10: movement there because of what they did in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 4: The Big Ten was a better lead top to bottom.

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Speaker 3: What about do you believe had the Bearcats not fallen

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02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 3: apart last week, that they would have been in the dance?

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Speaker 10: I thought that until yesterday because it didn't appear that

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Speaker 10: they were close to team number sixty eight. They weren't

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Speaker 10: one of the last four out. But it's it's worth wondering.

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Speaker 10: We're never gonna go to get through.

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Speaker 3: I mean I still when it's brought up, I'm not

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Speaker 3: over twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: And that will be a game that lingers in a

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Speaker 3: similar vein for me does for Wes Miller. I lost

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Speaker 3: a job in two minutes strand in a two minute stretch.

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Speaker 10: I talked about this Friday that you have to imagine

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02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:07,760
Speaker 10: an alternate universe where they win that game and then

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02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 10: even if they still don't make the tournament, because at

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02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 10: that point, you don't know. The one thing that did

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02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 10: happen that day is like everybody else lost and had

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02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:18,080
Speaker 10: to lose. What if they play Arizona tough? What if

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02:10:18,120 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 10: they beat Arizona? What if they don't? But getting to

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02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 10: that game and having it matter is enough to save

2381
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:29,400
Speaker 10: Wes Miller's job. Like it wasn't just that they lost

2382
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 10: that game. It wasn't hey man, you see if had

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02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,400
Speaker 10: a dude go off and they lost eighty two to

2384
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 10: seventy eight, the game was in their back pocket and

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02:10:37,680 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 10: they gave it away.

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Speaker 4: And coaching decisions. You and I were on live during it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, coaching decisions were brought into focus, like there's no

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02:10:46,360 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 10: there's no coming back from that when you're already deeply unpopular, yeah,

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02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,480
Speaker 10: or when there's already built in skepticism. But yeah, you

2390
02:10:53,720 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 10: were never going to know, and I'm gonna guess the

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02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:59,480
Speaker 10: answer is no. But we're never gonna know what the

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02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 10: outcome would have been for the team and for the

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02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:04,600
Speaker 10: coach had they simply held on to beat a team

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02:11:04,680 --> 02:11:06,000
Speaker 10: that was begging to be beaten.

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Speaker 3: Anyhow, Any obscure names that you should you think should

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02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 3: be brought to the list. We've thrown a bunch out today.

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Speaker 3: Obviously Calhoun is a big name out there, but Kevin Ollie,

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02:11:17,720 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 3: he took over for a different Calhoun won a national title. Right,

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02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 3: Any obscure names that you want to maybe just put

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02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 3: onto the message boards.

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02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 4: Okay, it's Jared Calhoun's job unless something crazy happened.

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02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:31,240
Speaker 3: Agreed, Please, let's not over complicate things.

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02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:34,120
Speaker 4: Fad Mada. Mada just retired.

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Speaker 10: About Bruce Pearl, greg odin assistant up there, Butler, here's

2405
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 10: an unpopular opinion. I think Bruce Pearl is great for

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02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:47,200
Speaker 10: television to watch. You need somebody with some stuff out

2407
02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:50,720
Speaker 10: there that He's not quite Jay Wright. I know, but

2408
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 10: when I was a kid, like Billy Packer was the

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02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:56,680
Speaker 10: polarizing opinion on college basketball. Since he stopped doing games

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02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:58,400
Speaker 10: and he passed away three years ago, but since he

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02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:00,600
Speaker 10: retired at the end of the two thousand eight season,

2412
02:12:01,120 --> 02:12:03,800
Speaker 10: there hasn't been anybody like that willing to say stuff. Now,

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02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:06,440
Speaker 10: Dan Dockich used to be that guy, and then Dan

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02:12:06,560 --> 02:12:07,880
Speaker 10: Dockiche I don't even know.

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02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:08,760
Speaker 4: He's a different plan.

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02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:13,040
Speaker 10: I am good on his content, but like Phelps, need

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02:12:13,080 --> 02:12:16,320
Speaker 10: a villain. Digger Phelps was a villain. Give me somebody

2418
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:17,920
Speaker 10: who's willing to be a villain. And this whole thing

2419
02:12:18,040 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 10: was like, well, he's on Auburn's payroll. Like the lead

2420
02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:24,720
Speaker 10: NFL analyst on Fox co owns a team. Troy Aikman

2421
02:12:24,760 --> 02:12:26,720
Speaker 10: said today he's gonna continue working for the Dolphin. But

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02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:30,160
Speaker 10: we now just care about conflicts of interest. Yeah, Jessica

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02:12:30,240 --> 02:12:33,320
Speaker 10: Mendoza did Sunday Night Baseball, worked for the Mets and

2424
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:37,360
Speaker 10: then the Dodgers. Yeah, like, oh, suddenly we care about

2425
02:12:37,360 --> 02:12:39,840
Speaker 10: these conflicts of interest because when I bring it up

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02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 10: and go, hey, Tom Brady probably.

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't be sitting in the coaches booth. Oh mo, Tom Brady.

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02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 10: So like, I don't agree with most of what Bruce

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02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 10: Pearl had to say about Auburn about Miami, but it's

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02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:53,640
Speaker 10: good to have somebody on TV who's willing to say

2431
02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:56,840
Speaker 10: some stuff because nobody else will, especially in that sport

2432
02:12:57,080 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 10: where every coach is great, every team is great. Give

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02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 10: me somebody who's willing to say some stuff that moves

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02:13:02,120 --> 02:13:03,040
Speaker 10: the needle a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for it, and you're here for the next

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Speaker 3: three hours.

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Speaker 10: Travis Steel would probably disagree maybe I'll ask him about that.

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Speaker 3: That's mull lagger. We're done here since I three to sixty.

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