1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: We're sitting down here at twentieth and Blake combined say 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: hi to us. 3 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: You know who's going to be a twentieth and Blake 4 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: very very soon for a lot of games. The new 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: second half of the Rockies broadcast team, Zach Goodman, who's 6 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: on the line right now. 7 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 3: Hello Zach, Hello everybody. I'm excited to join it. It 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: seems like a ton of fun. 9 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Well, yesterday we started our program director in a terrible mistake, 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: started a text thread with all of us on it 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: and Zach and the chaos that ensued from that should 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: give you an idea of what you're in for Isy 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: coming to work for KOA. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: I have a question, Zach, how many times are you 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: eaten at the Big Texan? 16 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the group chat was a ton 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: of fun. I was laughing a good amount. I was 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: at a self service so they all got swarmed in 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: once I got back immediately in and it was a 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: tornado of jokes and introduction. So that was good. But 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: the Big Texan, I've only one time. It was It's 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: kind of a touristy thing and that's how I kind 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: of took it. But one time went there and it 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: was pretty good. They have a crazy challenge. It's a 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: seventy two ounce steak and then there's sides to it 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: as well. And if you can eat all of it, 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: you did it for free. I haven't seen too many 28 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: people eat all of it, but apparently that does happen 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 3: every once in a while. 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: So Zach, I just want you to know that you 31 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: gave the right answer, because if you told me you'd 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: eaten there several times, in my book, you've gone down 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: several notches. But the fact you did it one time, 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: which is a requirement, and that's all you did. Good 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: on you. Good on you, so Zach. 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: Obviously our audience may not know this about you've been 37 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: calling games for the what is the Amarillo team name 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: though something? 39 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: The sod poodle, the prairie dog your nickname for a 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: prairie dog. 41 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: Ah, a sod poodle. There you go. 42 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: You whatt Prairie dogs are good for target practice? 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think I'm about to find out. 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 4: Zach. 45 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: First of all, welcome to the broadcast team. You are 46 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: teamed up with Jack Corgan, who is a consummate professional 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: and you know, absolutely. 48 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: Beloved, And I want to ask you. 49 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: You're a young guy, you're twenty seven years old, what 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: are you going to do when Jack makes a cultural 51 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: reference that you don't know what it is because there's 52 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: a bit of an age gap between you and Jack. 53 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: There certainly is, and I think I'll let him if 54 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: I don't know it, I'll just let him take it. 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: But I think that'll be a part of the fun 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: of it is having two different, very different generations in 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: the booth and how we'll interact will be fun because 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: I think it'll it'll you reach a lot of different 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 3: audiences of all different age groups, which will which will 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: be a lot of fun. 61 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: And as you. 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: Mentioned, Jack consonmate professional. I've been saying that's a ton 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: the last couple of day. Is how excited I am. 64 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: The opportunity to work in the big leagues is one thing, 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: and obviously it's it's absolutely incredible, but the fact that 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to get to do it with somebody who's 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: been in the business for forty years and has that 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: much experience and it's that well respected, it doesn't it 69 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 3: doesn't get any better than this, and I'm excited to 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 3: really build a rapport with him on the air as 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: well as learned as much as I can. 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: So considering your family heritage. When when when this opportunity 73 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: started to arise and you knew you were in the running, 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: well you finally got the call. Was it like yes? 75 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: What was it like? 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: It was? It was a huge relief because obviously I 77 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: wanted it so bad. This is my hometown team, it's 78 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: my dream job. And I grew up at the ballpark, 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: I grew up at Coursefield, and you know, just just 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: live and die with the Rockies my whole life. And 81 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: so when that call came through, I was obviously really nervous, 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: and so getting the good news was a huge relief, 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: and then it quickly turned into a excitement. The best 84 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: part was being able to call your parents. That compared 85 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: this a bunch because you're in the minor leagues and 86 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: the broadcasters are just like the baseball players. You're waiting 87 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: to try to your body and your time trying to 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: get to the major leagues. And whenever the minor league 89 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: baseball players get that call, they have all these videos 90 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: online and the teams share of them being able to 91 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: call their parents and be at the emotional moment. And 92 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: that's the moment I always dreamed of, And you get 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: that same moment as a broadcaster. So my favorite part 94 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 3: of it for sure was being able to call my family. 95 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 3: There was a lot of tears and it was a 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: really really special moment, one that I'll cherish for the 97 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: rest of my life. 98 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 5: Well, Zach obviously, and by the way, this is a Rod. 99 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: Welcome to Kowa. We're happy to have you here, my friends. 100 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 6: So speaking of your parents, obviously, for those that aren't aware, 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 6: your dad, Drew good Move has been calling the Rockies ever. 102 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 5: Since I was a kid. 103 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 6: It's been a long time Drew's been on the call 104 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 6: on the Rocky on. 105 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 5: The TV side. But a lot of pressure on you 106 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 5: for one reason, Zach. Number one, your your home run call? 107 00:04:59,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 5: Do you have one? 108 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 5: Because of course your father, Drew has had forever. Take 110 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: a good look. You want to see it for long? 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: Jack Corgan touch them all the time as long as 112 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 5: I can remember. 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 6: With the sad Poodles or even previous have you developed 114 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 6: and do you have a home run call that Kawae 115 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 6: Faithful can get used to hearing. 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: And you know what's funny, a Rod and thanks for 117 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: saying hello. Looking forward to working with you as well. 118 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: But it's it's something that I've talked about with friends 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 3: and people since I was young, ever since I knew 120 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to do this. What's my home run? Called 121 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: you Going to Be? And to be quite honest, I say, basically, 122 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: everything under the sun has been taken. There's nothing new 123 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: under the sun right. So if something comes to me 124 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: naturally and it sticks and people like it, maybe I'll 125 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: continue to use it. But the way I view it 126 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: right now is I don't want to copy anybody. I 127 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to force anything, just 128 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: whatever comes to my head in the moment. I think 129 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: every moment deserves a unique call, and if something sticks, 130 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: then it sticks. But as of right now, I'm just 131 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: trying to make every moment unique and hopefully the excitement 132 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: of the moment jumped out through my voice and whatever 133 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: I happen to say at that time. But we'll see, 134 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: maybe down the line that's something different. I have some 135 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: time to develop, maybe a line or two, Zach. 136 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: I want to issue a little bit of a clarification 137 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: for some of our some of our more brutal fans 138 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: who were quick to put the tag of nepotism on you. 139 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: I talked to our boss, our mutual boss, Dave Tepper, 140 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: our program director, and he took offense to that because 141 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: he said, look, Drew Goodman is Zach's dad. And I 142 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: guess a couple of years ago your dad brought you 143 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: onto the television broadcast on fourth of July and that 144 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: put you on Dave Tepper's radar. 145 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: But throughout this. 146 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: Process, you have won the ability and won the job 147 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 2: on your merits. 148 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be perfectly honest. 149 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm one of those people that listens to bring training games, 150 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: mostly because my show's preempted by them. So I'm listening 151 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: on the way home, and after I heard you the 152 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: first and second time, I went to Dave Tepper and said, 153 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: that's the guy. 154 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 4: He's really really good. 155 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 2: So I just want to say, like your father had 156 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: nothing to do with you getting this job other than 157 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: giving you a shot to be on the TV broadcast, 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: you have earned this. I think the fans, once they 159 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: hear you, are going to absolutely love what you bring 160 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: to the game. 161 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: And that leads me to my actual question. 162 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: After my statement, you played a little baseball, tell me. 163 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: About that, yeah, and touch it up on that real quick. 164 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: I know it's something that is pretty common, and that's 165 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: the way it's get to it viewed with the way 166 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: that the things that my dad has done here in 167 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: caller out over the last twenty five years. But you're 168 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: exactly right. He brought me on air really quick for 169 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: a happ a ending and Dave Tepper, our boss, just 170 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: so happened to hear it, liked it, reached out to 171 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: me on Twitter, and we started a relationship. We talked 172 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: on the phone a few days later, and I started 173 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: sending him my faith and going over it with him. 174 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: And he's become really a mentor for me in the business, 175 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: teaching me a lot about broadcast, especially on the radio side. 176 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 177 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: And he never knew my dad. He didn't meet my 178 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: dad until about eight months after we met. Uh, and 179 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: they met one time. My dad made a point to 180 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: stay out of this entire process and really just let 181 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: it come down to whatever the decision Koa wanted to 182 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: make was. And Uh, I feel like I know in 183 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: my heart that that I earned this. And hopefully for 184 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: the fans that are a little bit tentative to to 185 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: welcome me at the start, and there's been so many 186 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: fans that have been amazing as well. But for the 187 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 3: few that don't you know, hopefully I can win them 188 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: over with with the style of broadcast that we put 189 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: out there and hopefully entertain some people, uh and bring 190 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: pride to Koa and Rockies baseball. But to my baseball career, yeah, 191 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: I played at Arapo High School for you know, my 192 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: four years there, and then I played six years of 193 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: college baseball actually at Webster University. It's a Division three 194 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: in Saint Louis h After my after my freshman year, 195 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: my sophomore year actually rather was was the season that 196 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 3: got canceled because of COVID and a three level. They 197 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: announced that, hey, they're going to give you that sophomore 198 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: year back, and then the year after that, whether you 199 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: play every game or you don't play any games, where 200 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: you give everybody that year back as well. So I 201 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: took advantage of that. I love the game of baseball. 202 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: It's I would have played for as long as I could, 203 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 3: and six years in college ended up being the match 204 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: that I could, and so I got to play until 205 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: I was basically twenty four years old. I enjoyed every 206 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: single moment of it. I was a catcher. I loved 207 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: being in every pitch and really thinking through the game, 208 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: how you want to pitch sequence, guys, what every person 209 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: on the field needs to do in a situation you're 210 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: directing traffic out there. I really loved it. I truly was. 211 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: You know, I enjoyed every single moment of college baseball 212 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 3: and my whole baseball career. 213 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: Well, Zach, you know you can't please everybody all the time. 214 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 1: Do you think it's right? And they'll You'll eventually in 215 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: them over. You'll be fine. Don't worry about them. Don't 216 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: worry about them. There's always a critic, right, there's always 217 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: a critic. 218 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: Zach. 219 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: What was your walk up song in college? Did you 220 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: have a walk up song at Division III? 221 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: Was that a thing? 222 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: I know this is, but realistically, all baseball players have 223 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: a walk up song, even if they don't actually have 224 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: a walk up song in real life. 225 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: So what would your walk up. 226 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: Song be if you were out there swinging the bat 227 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: for the Rockies instead of holding the mic? 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. Maybe I would stick with this 229 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: one if I was the Rockies. But this is a 230 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: good question, and it actually is funny because it ties 231 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: back into the Rockies. The first few years I mixed 232 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: it up, but then my last few years of Webster 233 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: I had We Liked to Party by the Bang of 234 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 3: Boys as my walk up song. And the reason I 235 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: did that is because it was it was the home 236 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: run song for the Rockies throughout my entire childhood, especially 237 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: in the two thousand and seven World Series run and 238 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: end of nine. But it was there for a while 239 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 3: whenever a Rocky would hit a home run and that's 240 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: the that's the that's the song. So I played that 241 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: as my walk up song and everybody seemed to love it, 242 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: and everybody would pump their fifths up in the air, 243 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: and it was kind of this, it became, it became 244 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: kind of a thing. So the last three years of 245 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: my career was the Rockies home run former home run 246 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: zone was my walk up zone. 247 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 4: That's fantastic, Ay question, So, Zach. 248 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 6: You're obviously starting on the call tomorrow with Jack Corgan 249 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 6: here at twentieth and Blake. We're obviously super excited for you. 250 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 6: What's your assessment of where the team is at. Obviously 251 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 6: you've been you've been following this team, like you said, 252 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 6: your entire life. Now you're part of the broadcast covering 253 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: this team on a daily basis. Two and four so 254 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: far in the year, it just took two or three 255 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: from the defending AL champions. Obviously a big change up 256 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 6: in the front office this year. What are your thoughts 257 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 6: on on the Rockies twenty twenty six campaign and where 258 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 6: do you think they can go from where they're at 259 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 6: right now? 260 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 3: Well, I think coming into it, I think a breadth 261 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: of fresh air is what everybody would probably call it, 262 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: right the new regime, the new outlook on the entire organization. 263 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: It's been a completely philosophical change and it's exciting. And 264 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: this team, the floor has been raised by a ton. 265 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna see anything like what we 266 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: saw last year. This team has been in every single 267 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 3: game so far, and they lost three one run games 268 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: in Miami or their record could look a lot different already, 269 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: But then you take two of three from the defending 270 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: AL champs. That's some pretty positive stuff as well. The 271 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: starting pitching staff has been really solid so far, giving 272 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: them a chance to win. I use that phrase a lot, 273 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: and people will probably get annoyed with it. There's no 274 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: statistical backing of it. But if you can keep your 275 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: team in a game and give them an opportunity to win, 276 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: you're not giving up five runs in the first or 277 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: whatever that may be. Even if it's four and two 278 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: thirds and you give up three runs, your team stills 279 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: the opportunity to come back in that game. And I 280 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: think that's what the starting pitching staff has done so far. 281 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: Going into the season, the bullpen was going to be 282 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: a strength, probably the biggest strength of the team. And 283 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: there are some big arms back there. When you think 284 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: of Wan Mahea, Victor bog Except Halverson, zach Adnos has 285 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: been terrific. There's so many good options for the team 286 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: out of the bullten. And then on the offensive side 287 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: of things, we were promised before the year and throughout 288 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 3: spring training that they were going to be aggressive on 289 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: the base paths. Well, it's one thing to say it 290 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: during spring training and do it in spring training and 291 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: another thing to actually implement it into the regular season. 292 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: And boy, if they've been aggressive on the base paths, 293 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: and it's been great to see they're stealing a ton 294 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: of bases. They've been stealing a successful rate as well. 295 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 3: But we've seen them score a lot of runs when 296 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: they've been at premiums at time by getting on first, 297 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 3: stealing second, a single scores a run. That's how you 298 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 3: manufacture runs. That's how you win close baseball games. And 299 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: it's a different attitude and it's a lot of fun 300 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: to watch. Plus there's so many young guys that are exciting. 301 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: TJ Rumfields has been the guy who's really stood out 302 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 3: to me. I know, he had an outstanding spring. He 303 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: won the Abby Greer Award for Spring MVP for the Rockies. 304 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: But man, if you just watch his advats, he's never 305 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: going to strike out on three pitches. He doesn't strike 306 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: out a lot at all, draws a lot of watch 307 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: a lot of hard contact can go the other way. Man, 308 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 3: what a special pickup he was from the Yankees that 309 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 3: he was. He was a big league player there. He 310 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: just simply wasn't in the big leagues because Ben Rice 311 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: came up and just dominated the scene last year. So 312 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: a lot to look forward to with this Rocky team. 313 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: I think it's only in a continue to get better 314 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: and better as they get more experience, and just the 315 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: build of this entire organization and the and the path 316 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: they're trending on is so positive. And I hope Rocky 317 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: fans can see that and we'll be able to reflect 318 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: on this in a couple of years. 319 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Zach We appreciate your time. Good luck, I have a 320 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: lot of fun. 321 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: Okay, can't wait to meet person Zach. 322 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Likewise, welcome sir, all right, take care asolutely. 323 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me on. 324 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: Guys, So let me tell you something. He'll be fine 325 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm listening and I'm thinking he knows one 326 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: he knows ball, but two he never took a breath. 327 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Did you. 328 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 329 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: Did you hear that? All on spring training? 330 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: I was dead serious when because I always give our 331 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: boss my opinion, even though he never asked. 332 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: For it, I freely give him, I know. 333 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: But I walked in and saide, that guy's really really good, 334 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: really good. 335 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: So I'm pleased as punch. I listened to a lot 336 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 4: of a couple of. 337 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: Questions, but that I kept listening for that breathe. 338 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: No, he's going to be all right. When we get back, 339 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: we'll talk walk up songs. I want people to text 340 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: my text line at five six six nine O what 341 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: is your walk up song? 342 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 4: And why? I always like the why behind it? 343 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 6: And we're one hour away from people to start lining 344 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 6: up to play against you and of the day for 345 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 6: Rocky's ticket. 346 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: Correct, and the first person that walks up and gives 347 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: everyone your horn. 348 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: You're going to get Rocky tickets to which day? I 349 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 4: believe Sunday, Sunday's game. So we've got opportunities. We're down 350 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: here in the rather rinky dink setup. 351 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: Rather well because the wind was blowing everything away and 352 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: has significantly died down. 353 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: It is, and I'm facing this on and actually it's 354 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: relatively comfortable. 355 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: Pleasant. 356 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, would we go? 357 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: Pleasant? 358 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 359 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 360 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Hang tip is Michael Brown and Mandy Condle. We're gonna 361 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be right back. 362 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: All right. 363 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: This is this is Michael Brown and Mandy Condle situation. 364 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: Michael Brown and parenthesis with Mandy Cottle. 365 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: Today everybody's trying to give us energy drinks. Michael, did 366 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: we see low energy to these youngsters? 367 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: Do you think? 368 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: No? I think it's because they know we're so popular. Oh, yes, 369 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: they're just trying to brand them. 370 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: We know about pop Yu anyway, we do. 371 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: So, you know, I was thinking during the break what 372 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: we should have done. Remember what we were talking about 373 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: on the way down here about the dogs. 374 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, of course, Michael and I we're gonna get read. 375 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, there we go. Michael and I are both 376 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: big dog people. 377 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: We should brote the dogs down. 378 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: You know, I thought about that, but but Jinki's is a. 379 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: Barker, and here's a crap oount of people. 380 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: When she barks, even though she's just barking hello, and 381 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: fifty five pound looks at you, it scares people. And 382 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: that concerned me. And I'm going to the game today, 383 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: so I wouldn't have been able to take her home 384 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: in your stinky jeep. 385 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: But dog vomits. So what's your walk up song? 386 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: Oh that's good, actually, I mean it does show you 387 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. 388 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: But see what's funny is. 389 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: Mine shows my age a little bit too. But it's 390 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: more modern than that. Mine would just be the refrain 391 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: from Reba McIntyre's Fancy. 392 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: Here's your one chance, fancy, don't let me down. 393 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: And we'll ignore the part that the song is actually 394 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: about a mom prostituting her daughter. 395 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 4: We'll just skip over that all that. 396 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Or if I wanted to make it a little more modern, 397 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: it would have to be Lose Yourself by Eminem. 398 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: That's such a great hype song. You know that you 399 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 4: listen to you, you get all hopped up. 400 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: But then I think to myself, when you want a 401 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: song that everybody in the audience would sing like Charlie 402 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: Blackman's song I still miss that. I still miss singing, 403 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: you know at the end of his walk up song, 404 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: we don't have anybody. 405 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, I have to go back and 406 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: really dig in my dead brains in your memory hole, 407 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: in my memory hole of the Blake Street Bombers. Yeah, 408 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: and what like Dante and some of them, what their 409 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: walk up songs were. 410 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 3: I just. 411 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: I know if I heard them, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, 412 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. 413 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: I would like to have the opportunity to ask the 414 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: players why they chose the song they chose, because obviously, 415 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: these young guys, they're playing modern music from today. We 416 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of guys who have Spanish language songs 417 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: now because that's their native language. I would love the 418 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: opportunity to ask them, what made. 419 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: You choose that song and tell us what it says exactly. 420 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 4: Just tell me what the words are because we have 421 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: no idea. But what was the thinking behind that? 422 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting conversation, and I know they 423 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: do a little bit of that, but it's not as 424 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: deep as I would like to go. 425 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I think God's trying to tell us something today. What 426 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: during the break, There was no wind. The sun felt 427 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: really good. You start talking and all of a sudden, 428 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: the wind just blows like fally cow. 429 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: You know what, I know what. 430 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop a house on you in just a 431 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: minute with this ogus. 432 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: What's gonna happen? 433 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: And just your little your little stripe socks will be 434 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: sticking out the bottom, and then I'll be singing ding dong. 435 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: The witch is dead. 436 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: That's stripe, so't stripe socks. 437 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not really going to drop a house on you. 438 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: Michael the Theater of the mind. J's Louise, Sir, jeez, 439 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: what's wrong with you trying to do a show over here? 440 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: Being literal? 441 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: You have to take me the same way you have 442 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: to take Donald Trump. Take me seriously, but don't take 443 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: me literally. 444 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I take you seriously or literally. 445 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: I have to reopen my far superior text line because 446 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: it turned off. 447 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, be sure and send me a text three three 448 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: one zero three. You can't work, Michael and Michael, you 449 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: can say whatever. You don't have to say anything, just 450 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: say hi, just you know whatever, just even the keyword. 451 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: Michael and I are. 452 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Having a little internal competition about whose listeners are better 453 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: and you. 454 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: Want to find interesting. I think this is true with everyone, 455 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: regardless of well maybe it's not. Maybe it's just our personalities, right, 456 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: But you and I are two of the most competitive 457 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: people that I know. 458 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: But you know what's funny is I'm not competitive about 459 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: most things, right, I'm competitive about being better at my 460 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: job than other people. Right, Like, you know, we do 461 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: of the Day at the end of every show. We're 462 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: gonna do it today and you're probably gonna play. 463 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: And I'm probably gonna lose, but it's okay. 464 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 4: But but when I lose, I don't care. 465 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't make a difference because there's no compensation is 466 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: attached to that. 467 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: You know, immediately, Am I gonna get a bonus for 468 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 4: winning of the Day? I'm not. 469 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: But when it comes to like I want to be 470 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: the best at my job. I want to sell more 471 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: advertising than anybody else at the station. 472 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 4: I want to do these things. 473 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: So I'm competitive in that respect, But in stuff that 474 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: genuinely doesn't matter in my life, I can take it 475 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: or leave it. So are you competitive in everything across 476 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: the board? 477 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: I think I am. 478 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 479 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: I mean I think that that's well. I think part 480 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: of it is when you I was a debater in 481 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: high school. Then I was I debated halfway through college. 482 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: Then I go to law school and everything is based 483 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: on winning. And it also develops, and I know this 484 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: about myself, It also develops, Who's I having this conversation 485 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: with just the other day. You develop the worst case 486 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: scenario thinking, catastrophic thinking. 487 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: We call it catastrophizing. 488 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, catastrophizing. So you think about what's the worst possible 489 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: thing that can happen, and then as a lawyer, you 490 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: always plan for that and walk into a courtroom whatever, 491 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: how can I mitigate the worst thing that's going to happen. 492 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: And then it's spending six years, you know, as as 493 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the under secretary, and going through nine to eleven and 494 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: all of that. 495 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: We literally the worst things did happen happen. 496 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: You suddenly realize that your persona even at So I 497 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: made fun earlier in the program about my childhood. I 498 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: had the most wonderful childhood you could possibly a magic 499 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: But my parents also were we expect the very best 500 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: of you. 501 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 4: I tell this story on the air a lot. 502 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, my father would look at 503 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: my report card and I would have four a's and 504 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: a B or five a's and a bright, and my 505 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: father would look at my report card and the. 506 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 4: Only only thing that he would say is what happened 507 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 4: with the b? Yes, that was it. 508 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: Like I had friends who got paid to make a's 509 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: and all I got was what happened was And I 510 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: think that that can go too far. I do think 511 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: it can can create a level of pressure that that 512 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: is not necessarily healthy for all kids. And I've tried 513 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: not to do it with my daughter. I've always couched 514 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: grades as the better your grades, the greater your opportunities. 515 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: The worser grades, your opportunity shrink. Like that's something we've 516 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: always kind of talked about, right, and it's worked. But yeah, 517 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: in our family, it was not It was not even 518 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: talked about. It was just known that we were expected 519 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: to excel and period, full stop. 520 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: That was it. 521 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: And by the way, there was no help with the schoolwork, 522 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: Like nobody helped us with our homework or our science 523 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: projects or anything we ever did, because we were just 524 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: expected to figure it out. And I think for me 525 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: as an adult, that was incredibly helpful. And I have 526 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: to ratchet myself back from doing too much for my daughter, 527 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like I succeeded because 528 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: my parents did not interfere. 529 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Well, fortunately for our kids. They had the jerk dad. 530 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: And not that I was a jerk to my kids, 531 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: but you know, as far as you know, well, yeah, 532 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: well they love me. 533 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: I know, that's it. 534 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: But I was always the one that set the expectations. 535 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: It's not that Tamra didn't set expectations, but she was 536 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: a school counselor ah, so she was able to if 537 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: I was the one that was setting the expectations too high, 538 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: she would bring to a normal level. 539 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: So we didn't have that. My mom was a teacher, 540 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 4: my dad, I was a lawyer, and they were both like, 541 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: get it done. 542 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, get it this. 543 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: You've got one job when you're a kid and wants 544 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: to go to school and do it well. Now, granted, 545 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 2: I was also in school in Florida back when Florida 546 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: did not have a barn burner of an educational system, 547 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: and I was in a small town. Let's just say 548 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: the educational quality of my hometown, beyond my Catholic school years, 549 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 2: was not difficult to achieve at a high level in. 550 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating because the little town I grew up 551 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: in maybe twelve thousand, twelve thousand people in a good day. 552 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: I look back on that elementary second, all of my 553 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: education through high school absolutely amazing teachers that had incredible 554 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: influence on my life. 555 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: We had great teachers, but curriculums weren't great. Expectations were 556 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: pretty low. At of my class of four hundred and 557 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: eighty five people, if the graduating class, because everyone in 558 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: my county went to one high school, I think maybe 559 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: forty went to college. 560 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: So these were people that were going to grow. 561 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: Up and work on their family farms, and there were 562 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: people who were gonna be mechanics, and there were people 563 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: who were gonna be more of a of a blue collar, 564 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: agricultural based lifestyle. 565 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: Our demo was pretty much the same. I mean, obviously 566 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: in the middle of Oklahoma, panandle farmers and ranchers, but 567 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: then there's the you know, the small town businesses. So 568 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: it was it was the same demographic as you're describing, 569 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: not not as large as what you describe, because I 570 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: think in the entire high school we had five hundred students. 571 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: My class was maybe undred and twenty five, one hundred 572 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: and fifty. But there was there was competition there and 573 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: the curriculum was, and again I don't remember whether it 574 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: was state mandated or how much they did on their own, 575 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: but the teachers themselves, regardless of what the state said, 576 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: this is what they're gonna teach. So the literature teacher, 577 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: the science teachers, the math teachers, they were all just 578 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. It was the. 579 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: Hardest class I had in high school was the Old 580 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 2: Testament as the history of the Jewish people. And we 581 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: studied the Old Testament in a public high school in Florida. 582 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: It was the hardest class I've ever had. 583 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 2: One of the Blue Book questions my senior year in 584 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: high school was describe what happened between Abraham and David. 585 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: Do you have any idea how much stuff happened? 586 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 4: It was. It was remarkable. 587 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: We did have great teachers with the curriculum, just in general, 588 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: not great. 589 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 4: Now Florida is blazing. 590 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 2: A trail, and Jeb Bush deserves a lot of credit 591 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: for Florida's educational prowess now because he laid that. 592 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: Groundwork decades ago. He does we gotta take. 593 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: A break, Dragon's do oh okay, all right, it's Michael 594 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: and Mandy down a twentieth and Blake. We're we're just 595 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: doing the yesterday. 596 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: I have a bunch of people who have Dante Boschett's 597 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: walk up song, and I got all the answers on 598 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 2: the far superior text line at five six sixth, so 599 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: I know, or three. 600 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: Three one zero three you word, Michael, Michael, We'll be 601 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: right back. 602 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: You know, I'm classing up the joint right now from 603 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: nine to two, like right now, I just feel. 604 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: But the sad part is for you to class up 605 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: the joint. We had to come to downtown. 606 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: I know, let's just not talk about that. 607 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: You know. 608 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: We were asking about walk up songs and a lot 609 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: of people wanted to point out that Dante Bouchett's walk 610 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: up song was Sledgehammer by uh by Peter Gabriel, and 611 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 2: then let me see here, Larry Walker had Crazy Train, 612 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: which is such a great song, such. 613 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: A great a couple of people. My walk up song 614 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: would be. 615 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: Connected by Stereo MC's Okay, I actually liked that song 616 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: a lot. My walk up song Journey Don't stop Believing. 617 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 2: See you can tell how old all of our listeners are, 618 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 2: like we're going back in time. My walk up song 619 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: would be White and Nerdy by weird al yea. These are, 620 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: by the way, text messages on the far Superior Common 621 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: Spirit health text line at five six six nine help or. 622 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: Three three one zero three good word Mike or Michael. 623 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: Whatever, It's fine. 624 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go with pick up the pieces by 625 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Average White Band. These are like songs from Ross Kaminski 626 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 2: for his name that too, which I got this morning 627 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 2: as I was driving to the station so I could 628 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 2: meet you and you could pick me up in. 629 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: The dog car. 630 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: Quick question Michael, Mandy, how's Michael about Building seven? 631 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 4: What about Building seven? Michael? What is building seven? 632 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: Building seven was next to the World Trade Towers. Oh, okay, 633 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of conspiratorial theorists about Building seven, really, 634 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 1: and it shows a significant lack of engineering and exactly 635 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: the impact of the towers collapsing. Everybody thinks that was 636 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: let me rephrase that. Many people believe some people believe 637 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: right that the federal government deliberately blew up to building seven. Okay, 638 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: I just I it just. 639 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: Off. 640 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: You know what Michael, I saw yesterday. And I don't 641 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: know if you paid attention to the artemis to launch. 642 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 4: I I love it all. I love every single bit 643 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: of it. I've grow up. 644 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 2: Growing up in Florida, we would all trek outside during 645 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: a Space Shuttle launch because you could see it. 646 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: I didn't live on. 647 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: A space coast, but you could see it as it 648 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: went up, and it was just fabulous. And then I 649 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: see these idiotic people online talking about how we'll do 650 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: the space Sial Colombia even really blow up, and I'm like, 651 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: look you jackasses. I stood outside my high school with 652 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 2: my science class and watched it explode, not on. 653 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: TV, in real life life. You could see it. 654 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 2: Now we're outside, so we don't know what's going on, 655 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: but you could clearly tell that something was not right, 656 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 2: and then we'd go back inside and find out everybody's dead. 657 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: It was like for people to now go back for 658 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: something that it was in recent. 659 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: History that all of us live through. 660 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: And now they're like, well, I don't even know if 661 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: that happened. How stupid do you have to be side? 662 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: That's the hill You're going to die? 663 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Right? And then to think how influential media is on us. 664 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: As I'm watching Artemis take off and it starts to 665 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: do the turn the role, and it's taking off and 666 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: you see all the fall away, you know that everybody 667 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: who watched the Challenger was thinking to themselves, Dear God. 668 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: Just let's just let it go. 669 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Let it go, let it go, let it go, keep going. 670 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 5: Keep going. 671 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: And and there was a moment the feed that I 672 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: was watching, the camera lost focus and it kind of. 673 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: Don't give me that kind of anxiety. 674 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: But it's amazing to me the things that people will 675 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: glom onto and and I mean, from Holocaust denial. 676 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 4: To these insane theories. 677 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: We didn't land on the moon, and I mean, he's 678 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: just like, what are you even. 679 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: The one that drives me baddiest is because on ninth 680 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: but by the time we got back to d C 681 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: on nine to eleven, all we had to do is 682 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: just we swim straight to the White House. But the 683 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: next morning, Joe went to the pen went to New York, 684 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: and I went to the Pentagon. And when I came 685 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: back out of the hole on the side, a couple 686 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: of my staffers were there, and I'm like, how'd you 687 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: get in here? What are you doing here? And that's 688 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: when they told me that Barbara Olson, a friend of mine, 689 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: had been on the plane. I saw, I mean I 690 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: saw everything. I saw the pieces, I saw the shards, 691 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: I said, and to this day people, how can you 692 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: believe that? How can you believe that? It's like, oh my. 693 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: God, people, Come on, yeah, come on. 694 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: Somebody said, break, thank you Grant. Okay, we'll take a 695 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: break where Twentyathan Blake, this, Mandy Conewain and Michael Brown 696 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: sitting here. 697 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: Just we got tickets to give away. 698 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 2: Come down, give us an the day giving tickets. Well, 699 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 2: we're going to do that right now in this break. 700 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: We're going, okay, care of tickets to Saturday and Sunday. 701 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 4: Don't do when we get back. 702 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: I know we got somebody with ring in our ear 703 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: over here. Break Yeah, everybody will be We'll be back.