1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: It's KMF. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: I am sixty and you're listening to The Conway Show 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: It is The Conway Show. 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: At seven o'clock tonight, Michael Monks is hosting a special 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: a year after the fires, and he joins his monks, 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: how are you. 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm well, it's been quite a day here as we 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 3: remember what happened a year ago today watching folks share 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: their feelings of sadness. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Of remorse, of anger. Yeah, a lot of anger. It's 12 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot of different emotions that people are feeling. 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: You know, I've heard this from Heather Brooker and I've 14 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 2: heard it from three or four other people that the 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: vibe in Altadena and the eaton fire area is we're 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: gonna wear a community. We're gonna get back together. We're 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: gonna build, We're gonna help each other. We'll get there. 18 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: It might take some time, but we're all part of 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: the same oneness. We flow in and out of everything together. 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: The attitude in the Palisades is they want to kill 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: somebody over this. 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: I think you're dealing with a couple of different governmental responses, 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: and you're also dealing with the different communities. One Altadena 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: is governed by LA County. It's an unincorporated community. It's 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: not the City of Altadena. It's unincorporated. It like a 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: little trustees organization or something that helps manage that. 27 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: And one of the most beautiful parts of LA It's 28 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: a Ballet County. 29 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: Really really beautiful and such an unfortunate loss. As for 30 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: the Palisades, that's the city of Los Angeles. And I 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: brought in a SoundBite that I use in the special tonight. 32 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: I bring it for you because I think it relates 33 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: to the Palisades situation. There's another fire that we really 34 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: didn't talk enough about at that time last year, and 35 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: maybe not even right now, even though it's played a 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: significant role in the Palisades fire. Some have suggested that 37 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: it led to the Palisades fire, and that is the 38 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: Lackman fire, right, And that was the fire that was 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: allegedly deliberately set by this guy was driving an uber 40 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: and for some reason decided to go up the hill 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: on New Year's Eve set this fire that was first 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: reported just after midnight on New Year's Day. The LA 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: Fire Department responded to that fire, and what we have 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: learned is that through reporting by the La Times, there 45 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: are text messages out there from LA firefighters saying I 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: don't think we should be leaving this scene yet because 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: this thing is not completely out, but they left anyway now. 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: When LA Fire Chief Jim Moore went before the City 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: Council to be confirmed in this new role, he said, 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: this media reporting is important. We are going to evaluate everything. 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: Days after that, he went to the Fire Commission and 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: spoke a little bit differently, criticizing the media, suggesting the 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 3: media was attacking LA firefighters and their performance during the wildfires, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: which really wasn't an accurate characterization of the reporting. Just yesterday, 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: day before the anniversary, Chief More is back before were 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: that Fire Commission again for the regular meeting, and this 57 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: is what he says. 58 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: At the time fire companies were directed to pick up hoose, 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: the department genuinely believed the fire was fully extinguished. That 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: was based on the information, conditions and procedures in place 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 4: at that moment. 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: That belief got excuse me. 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 4: That belief guided the operational decision making that was made. However, 64 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: the outcome has made it incredibly clear that our mop 65 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: up and verification process needed. 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: To be stronger. We have to own that, and I do. 67 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: As a result, we've already changed our mop up procedures 68 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: and we formally incorporated the use of drone technology to 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: enhance post suppression verification, situational awareness, and detection of residual heat. 70 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: These changes are now in place to help ensure that 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: this will never happen again. 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: So think about that. If you live in the Palisades, tim. 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: You've already got a litany of failures that you've criticized 74 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: the city for. 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: Where was the mayor, why weren't. 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: There enough fire trucks pre deployed, where was the water 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: in the reservoir? Then you learn there was this earlier 78 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: fire that was apparently not fully put out, and all 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: they had to do is put that fire out. We 80 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: can't say for sure. These are just suggestions by federal 81 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: prosecutors and other investigators. It seemed to be the case, 82 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: and it was suspected even before these allegations came out 83 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 3: that there was an earlier fire that may have been smoldering. 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 3: If you knew that the fire department did not fully 85 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: put out a fire that was pulled out of the 86 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 3: ground by those Santa Ana wins and became the Palisades. 87 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: Fire, that may be the worst part of all of. 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: This right, But I will say, and again I'm not 89 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: a fire expert, never tried to pretend to be one. 90 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: For that fire to burn underground for six and a 91 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: half days unbelievable. 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that before. 93 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: And I think we all learned that this is something 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: that happens, it can happen, and we learned about it 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: because of the arrest. So we get word that morning 96 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: of the arrest that was announced a couple of months 97 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: ago by the US Attorney's office that the Uber driver 98 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 3: had been taken into custody. So the first thing that 99 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: we're told is that they're they're announcing something related to 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: the Palisades fire, and so like, who is getting indicted, 101 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: who's being brought in. But what ended up being the 102 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: most interesting part of it not just that they got 103 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 3: somebody in custody. It's this connection between that earlier fire, 104 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: Not that somebody went and dropped a match on January seventh, 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: when all these red flag warnings are going on. It 106 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: was that somebody did it on New Year's Eve, that 107 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: this fire was attended to and then left. 108 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: Burning when Mayor Baths was running and when she was 109 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: just a congress person and she was going to and 110 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: she decided to run for mayor. One of the things 111 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: that she told I think she told Alex Michaelson on 112 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: the issue is on Fox she said, if I become mayor, 113 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: I never leave town. I will never leave the country. 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: I'll never leave the state, you know, because that was 115 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: an issue with her. She traveled a lot and was 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: you know, prone to you know, getting on these junkets 117 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: and going overseas or going back to Washington, you know, 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: going to the Olympics to you know, to present the 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: flag and bring the Olympic flag home to Los Angeles. 120 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 2: And so when she's got when she's caught red handed 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: in another country while this is going on, and then 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: on top of that, erased all of her texts where 123 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: and there I don't I don't understand first of all, 124 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: how that happens. Now, that's allowed to be having, But 125 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 2: where's the anger over that? There's plenty of anger over 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: over the mayor. She was certainly the target of a 127 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: lot of ire. She turned that ire towards the fire 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: chief at the time, Kristen Crowley, saying that this was 129 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: a failure of la f D leadership and that is 130 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 2: why the fire chief had to be fired. But you 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: you've covered city Hall better than any other reporter in 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: LA and very nice, and I think that's true. 133 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: I don't know. 134 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't hear any other station or any other reporter 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: covering LA and City Council sitting through the boring meetings 136 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: and sitting through the very hostile crowd that they have 137 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: to deal with every day. And you know that they 138 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: try to take money out of the fire department, out 139 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: of the police department on a regular basis. Well, it's 140 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: it's often hard to fully understand what that means. And 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to let lecture our audience because I 142 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: know people are angry. People are angry. And one of 143 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: the first characterizations of the fire department during that time 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: was that Maribaths cut its budget, and that was not 145 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: necessarily true. It did not exactly work that way because 146 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: there are different budgets within budgets within budgets. So if 147 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: that is the conclusion you felt like you wanted to 148 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: reach and project, there's data to support that absolutely one percent. 149 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: But they've been doing it way before her. 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: You know, every time the budget comes up for LAPD 151 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: and LA Fire Department, they try to take money from them. 152 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: And they take money from every department because they have 153 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: no money. No, it's it's critical related to fire department 154 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: and police department because you think safety, public safety is 155 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: the most important. Well, those two departments are still the 156 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: most expensive departments in the city. But you're also not 157 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: getting funding to fill your potholes. They haven't paid a 158 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 3: single inch of street in the City of Los Angeles 159 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: and snow. Fiscal year started on July one an inch. 160 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: But where is the money? I know, look, they have none. 161 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: They're paying it out in lawsuits, some that are related 162 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: to some of these public agencies. 163 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: Then how do other cities do it? 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Because you know that the most expensive real estate probably 165 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 2: in the country is in La City. La City has 166 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: you know, has millions of homes worth millions of dollars, 167 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: and everyone's paying property taxes and yet that money is 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: either mismanaged or there's not enough of it. 169 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: I ditorialized a bit with Gary and Shannon, and Bellio 170 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: asked me which word I used, And the word that 171 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 3: I used was this government, This city government is unserious. 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just unseerious to watch. 173 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: And I talked to Billy all in the alls, like 174 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: you know, I live in LA and I drive here 175 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: to Burbank, and when you drive in LA you just 176 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: shake your head. And then you cross into Glendale and 177 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: you cross and you're like, this is California. This is 178 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: the California that somebody from not here thinks about. 179 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: You know. 180 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: You get into the cities like Glendale and Burbank, which 181 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: you're on the way between LA and then this studio, 182 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: and you think those are nice little houses. There are 183 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: palm trees in the front. People are walking their dogs, 184 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: kids are shooting basketball. I could eat off of this road, 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: that's right. And then on the way home, I will 186 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: cross once they get out of Griffith Park. I'm back 187 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. I'm the same way and it changes instantly, 188 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: and it is a it's priorities. Yeah, can you stay 189 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: with us? We talk about the special exet I have 190 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: stuck here till ten o'clock tonight. Man, Oh okay, all right, 191 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: Monks is with us? 192 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: The special starts exactly at seven pm, one hour and 193 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: forty five minutes from now. 194 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: It is. 195 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: We'll come back and talk about it. Right for this 196 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: commercial break. 197 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI 198 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: AM six. 199 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Forty Michael Monks joins us. 200 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: He's been working the last couple of weeks, a couple 201 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: of months on this special that airs tonight seven o'clock. 202 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: What are we going to hear tonight? You'll hear a recap, 203 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: of course, of what happened that day. You'll learn about 204 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: what has happened since and what hasn't happened since, and 205 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 3: we'll talk a bit about what's going on next. We recap, 206 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: obviously the events of one year ago today and the 207 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: immediate days afterwards. 208 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: But a lot has happened, and a lot of homes 209 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: were not lost on January seventh, but on eighth, ninth, 210 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: and tenth. 211 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: And you're going to find a piece of this that 212 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: our Brigidia Dagasino did on the challenges that people are 213 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: facing whose homes did not burn down in these burnt areas, 214 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: a very very unique angle to all of this, because 215 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: if you lived in Alta Diner, if you lived in 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Palisades or Malibu or pass It in these places that 217 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: were hit really hard by the fires, and frankly, if 218 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 3: you drove through those neighborhoods and the immediate aftermath, you 219 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: would think, why is that house still there? 220 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 221 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: And the two on either side of it are gone. 222 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: It was just very strange the way that fortune or 223 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 3: whatever selected wish homes were gone. So you would think 224 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: that house looks just the same as it did yesterday. 225 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: They're lucky. Yeah, Apparently they are not lucky because it 226 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: is more challenging for those folks to deal with the 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: insurance because there's smoke damage. I mean, they did not 228 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: go unscathed. 229 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 230 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 3: They referred to them as burners exactly. They are having 231 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: a heck of a time getting to get back into 232 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: their homes because of the insurance parameters. They're like, it 233 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: would be You will hear from one guy who says 234 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: we would be better off if our house had burned down. 235 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: No way, is that right? 236 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 7: Yeah? 237 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: Wow, So that's part of it. 238 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: We have an interview our Jason Campedonia talks with a 239 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: US Senator Rick Scott from Florida Republican who's been out 240 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: here once to hold a hearing into the Palisades and 241 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: he joins us for this special as well. We'll talk 242 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: a bit about some of the trauma and the psychological 243 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 3: damage that this has done. This isn't just one family 244 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 3: who's fire burned down, which is tragic enough, you know, 245 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: with somebody loses. These are communities, oh yeah, that have 246 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: been lost, and not just those communities. I talked a 247 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: bit about this with Gary and Shannon earlier today. This 248 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 3: was different, really than any other wildfire experience we have. 249 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: We know wildfires in southern California, we know that they 250 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: can be devastating and deadly, but we've never had a 251 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: situation where two massive wildfires are burning at the same 252 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:42,359 Speaker 3: time in densely populated areas, taking homes and lives, especially 253 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: in communities that everybody knows, right and so people, whether 254 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: you lived in the Palisades or altered or not, you 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 3: had some connection to those communities and your experiences there. 256 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: So your loss is obviously not as direct or as 257 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: personal or as terrible as some of your house burning down, 258 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: but you feel a loss as well, Oh absolutely. 259 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean these are our you know, family members and 260 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: friends and relatives who have gone through this and there, 261 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: and most of them are doing it very silently, you know, 262 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: they're they're they're not, you know, crying for help all 263 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: the time. They're sort of internalizing all this and doing 264 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 2: what they can. And I hear very few people, the 265 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: people I know who've lost their homes in that area, 266 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: including we just talked to the sales manager here, David Howard. 267 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: You never hear them complain. They're working silently to try 268 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: to get their lives back together. 269 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 3: I talked to David Howard for last year special that 270 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: we did in a few weeks after everything started to 271 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: settle down, at least the initial impact of the fires. 272 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: And you know, he is. He's been great to talk 273 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: to because he's very well informed. Sure, but he's very together. 274 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: I know, it's surprising he was together then, yes, And 275 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: that's impressive, you know, just the way that you can 276 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: deal with something as traumatic as watching not just your 277 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: house but your entire neighborhood go up in flames and 278 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: manage to galvanize other folks to stay focused on getting 279 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: results and getting your lives back right. 280 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: And I don't know which comes first. You know, that 281 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: kind of ability to you know, to put your life 282 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: back together. Is that something you had going in or 283 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: is that something you were forced into doing because of 284 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: the circumstances. You know, there's like, for instance, if my 285 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: community burned down, a house burned down, I would not 286 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: do well. 287 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 8: Well. 288 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: That's because you would probably be a suspect. That's probably 289 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: you would be lawyering up. I would be at. 290 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: Marongo pulling slot machines, trying to pay for everything that's right. 291 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: I think some things that come out of tragedies like 292 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: this is a leader's rise. I think your people that 293 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: never thought of themselves as community organizers or community leaders 294 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: before start to think themselves as such. 295 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: You saw Spencer Pratt did today. 296 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy who was a reality 297 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: TV star in the two thousands, mostly forgotten, but lived 298 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: in the Palisades and lost his home. Is really angry 299 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: about the state and the local response. He's built this 300 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 3: social media following, especially through national right wing figures platforming 301 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: him and elevating him. He announced that he's running for mayor. 302 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know that in any other scenario we 303 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: would hear Spencer Pratt declare for mayor of Los Angeles. 304 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: But he did so today at a rally that had 305 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: about a thousand people at it. People who are really angry. 306 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: This rally was called they let us Burn. This was 307 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: not a candlelight visual to remember things. This was people 308 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: who are angry. But a couple of things with the Palisades. 309 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 3: One is that the people who run Los Angeles, the studios, 310 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: the big business people, A lot of them live there. 311 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: And so you know, that's where your boss lives in 312 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: Pacific Palisades. Every time I go to Pacific Palisades, the 313 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: guy who owns the house is doing much better than 314 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: I am. You know, that's where the money is, That's 315 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: where the bosses are. That's where the people who have 316 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: made who have kept their nose clean and have made 317 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: a ton of money, that's where they live. And those 318 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: people have been distracted by this fire for the last year, 319 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: and so a lot of other businesses have been suffering, 320 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: not their fault, but because their time is you know, 321 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 3: is called. 322 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: For other places. 323 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: You talked to Heather Brooker before the top of the hour, 324 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: and she did a piece for this special that's coming 325 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: up to night at seven on the effects the fires 326 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: have had on the Hollywood industry, which was already reeling 327 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: from COVID and the double strikes, the actors and the 328 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: writers strikes, and then all of a sudden, this fires. 329 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: What does it matter to Hollywood? Just like what you 330 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: just said, I mean, so many people. 331 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: Who have influential roles in Hollywood live in the policies, 332 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: but also Alta dina that is a community for families, 333 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: and Hollywood is more than studio bosses and big time actors. 334 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: There are people who write scripts, who make music, who 335 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: run cameras, who do that sort of thing, and they 336 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: make a living and they live in communities like Altadena. 337 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 3: And so we talked to some of the folks who 338 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 3: were affected that way as well. What I will say 339 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 3: about Altadena was it looked like a storybook community that 340 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: if you were casting a town to be the small 341 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: town star of a television series, that's what you want. 342 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: As for the Palisades, anytime you ask somebody outside of 343 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: California to picture California, that's what you're picturing. Yeah, you're 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: exactly right, sprawling estates on a cliff overlooking the beach, right, 345 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: and all of that vanished. 346 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: And they're rightfully so really pissed off. And Heather Brooker 347 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: played a piece of a guy who lives out in 348 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: the Palisades and emotionally a wreck he said he had 349 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: hit him and his family have paid six hundred thousand 350 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: dollars over the last ten or twenty years in property tax. 351 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: That's what irritates the hell out of him. It's yeah, 352 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: where's the money going. 353 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: What has it been used for? That kind of money 354 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 2: of property tax? And there's no water to put your 355 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: house out. 356 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 3: The worst thing is if you live in the city 357 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: of Los Angeles, as people in the Palis Saints do, 358 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: you were told by the mayor that she was going 359 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: to remove the permit fees, which are expensive. It's not 360 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: like you're farnelling a forty five dollars money aware and 361 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: getting your permit. That's not how it works. So that's 362 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: hundreds of millions of dollars and it's tens of thousands 363 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 3: for some residents to rebuild to get this permit approved. Well, 364 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 3: it hasn't happened because it hasn't been approved by the 365 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: city council. The mayor does not have executive authority to 366 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: make this ah and the city council hasn't approved it 367 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: yet to their fiscal credit. Frankly, because the mayor thought 368 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: it would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of eighty four 369 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: million dollars. Yeah, and it's over two fifty over to 370 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: fifty ye, I mean, apparently that's disputed, but that range 371 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 3: is significant. It's not just a gift. There is a 372 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: cost to the rest of the city's general fund. Right 373 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: is all ready a wreck. 374 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: As we've talked about many times, and we'll talk many 375 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: times again. It's unbelievable. 376 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: All Right, Michael Monks Tonight at seven pm, you're gonna 377 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: be hosting this thing. 378 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: One year later. 379 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: It'll run from seven to nine. I'm going to come 380 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: on live from nine to ten. We'll talk a little 381 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 3: bit more about today's fire stuff, but we'll also do 382 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: some general news talk as well for that last hour, 383 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: so feel free to join us for that. 384 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: Excellent all right, speaking of talking about this fire, if 385 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: you obviously there are people listening right now who've been 386 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: wildly affected by these fires. If you want to call 387 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: us up, tell us how it's going, Maybe you want 388 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: to complain, Maybe you have a piece of information that 389 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: we've not covered here on KFI. We are going to 390 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: open up the phones and you can call with whatever 391 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 2: you have. Maybe you know somebody who's in the fire, 392 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: Maybe you lost somebody, maybe a pet, maybe a loved one, 393 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: whatever it is, we are here for you. 394 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 5: You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI 395 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 396 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: We are an hour and twenty three minutes away from 397 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: the special tonight at seven o'clock. You're going to want 398 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: to hear that, especially if you were listening to KFI 399 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: during the fires. You'll hear a lot of the same 400 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: audio that you heard last year. And it's going to 401 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: be a great special seven to nine pm tonight on KFI. 402 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: Whatever you got to do, maybe eating dinner, got to 403 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 2: get back in the car at seven o'clock and that'll 404 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: air right after the top break at seven o'clock. All right, 405 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 2: you have had some experience with the fire, Maybe you 406 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: have an opinion of what's going on. Maybe we haven't 407 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: covered something here. Maybe you're angry, maybe you're sad. But 408 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: these fires that rage through southern California a year ago 409 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: is still having an emotional effect on a lot of people, 410 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: even people who weren't involved in the fire at all. 411 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: It is affecting millions of people here in southern California, 412 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: especially people have had their homes damaged, or lost a 413 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: loved one, or lost a pet. And if you want 414 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: to jump on the air, you can call us at 415 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 2: one eight hundred five two oh one five three four 416 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: one eight hundred five to two oh one five three four. 417 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Jenna here in Pacific Palisades. 418 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: Jenny you there, Yes, I am How are you good? 419 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: How are you? 420 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 9: I'm good? 421 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 6: Thank you? 422 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Your home was saved in the Palisades. 423 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 10: It was okay, that's good. By a miracle. It's everything 424 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 10: around us burned. Oh wow, but our house was saved. 425 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: Were you able to move back in? 426 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 6: And yes, okay. 427 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 10: We were out for about seven months and uh, you know, 428 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 10: a lot of remediation. 429 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 6: Happened and a lot of things had to be replaced. 430 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: But we are back in. 431 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: And and was it was the bill for that? I'm 432 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: sure it was significant. Was did the insurance company help 433 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: you out? 434 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 10: They were actually pretty good with us. 435 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 6: We didn't have a whole lot of complaints. 436 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Who was your company? 437 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 6: A little bumpy farmers? 438 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm writing down all the good ones that 439 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: I hear about travelers and farmers. 440 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, they were, they were, they were good. 441 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Yeah did they did they respond immediately? 442 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 6: There was not. 443 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 10: Pretty I mean it was hard because in the beginning, 444 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 10: nobody could even get in sure, you know, not the homeowner. 445 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 10: You know, it was weeks before people could even get in. 446 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 10: So it was a little while before the adjusters were 447 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 10: able to come out and take a look. 448 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: But but yeah, they came. 449 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 10: And the first adjuster we had was not good. 450 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 6: But once we got after that, we got a good 451 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 6: one and it was it went more smoothly. 452 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Oh good, okay. And and how long you've been living 453 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: in that house? 454 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 10: Well, what's funny or not funny is that we lived 455 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 10: in Malibu and we lost our house in Wolsey fire, 456 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 10: Oh my god, and rebuilt it, sold it, never moved 457 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 10: in and moved to the Palisades because you know, Palisades 458 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 10: is safe, right, sure, you know, but we it didn't 459 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 10: happen a second time, thank god. 460 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 6: My husband and my son and some amazing. 461 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 10: People stayed and for three days and fought the fire 462 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 10: on the street and said, you know, our house and 463 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 10: probably about ten others on the block. 464 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: Do you know if your home that was burned down 465 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: by the Woolsey fire survived the fire last year? 466 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, it wasn't. 467 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 10: It wasn't anywhere near the fire was we were in 468 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 10: western Malibu. 469 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: And what about your neighbors? Have any of them moved back? 470 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 10: A few, a few, not not a ton of them, 471 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 10: but probably about oh, I don't know, four or five 472 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 10: of them have moved back. 473 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: So what a year it's been for you. 474 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 10: It's it's been a year. It has been a year, 475 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 10: but we you know, we count our blessings. We feel 476 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 10: very lucky that we are able to move home and 477 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 10: then we you know, we're still here. 478 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that you are back in your home, 479 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: and I hope your neighbors join you shortly. 480 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate you phoning. 481 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: You may want to keep this SAW station on your 482 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 2: radio until at seven o'clock. 483 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: Is me a terrific special seven to nine tonight. 484 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 6: I will thank you, Thank you, Jennen. 485 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: All right, take care. 486 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: Let's talk to a ray in Running Springs. You're on 487 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: kfived Ray. 488 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: How are you. 489 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 7: Alive? And well? 490 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: Thank you excellent? Whate are you calling. 491 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 7: From Running Springs in the San Bernadino Mountains. 492 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: Okay, you've had a pretty tough year. 493 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: You've had not only fires, but my radical mud slides 494 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of water too. 495 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 7: Tons of water. Yes, but in seven I have lost 496 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 7: my home to the slide fire and at that time 497 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: I had only had my homeowners insurance with all State 498 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 7: for about less than a year. 499 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 500 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 7: And I had asked them if they were going to 501 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 7: cancel me, and they were like, no, we want you 502 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 7: to live a long, healthy life in order to get 503 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 7: as much money back from me as possible. However, about 504 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 7: three years ago roughly we were canceled and everyone up 505 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 7: in the mountains is being canceled at all the companies 506 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 7: due to the location, right, and we're all forced to 507 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 7: go to the California Fair Plan, which is the last resort. 508 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 7: And my insurance has gone up from about eight hundred 509 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 7: dollars a year to like forty eight hundred dollars a year. Wow, 510 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 7: And it's extreme. And I'm just curious as far as 511 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 7: the people and the palisades have they experienced this? Are 512 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 7: they getting dropped? Are they going to be dropped? Well, 513 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 7: if they didn't thought about this going forward, Yeah, a lot. 514 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: Of them were dropped before the fire. 515 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: A lot of them were dropped, you know, in October 516 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: November of twenty twenty four, before the fire even. 517 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 7: Happened, perfect timing. 518 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: It is horrible, it. 519 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: Really is, and you know it's it's it's horrible that 520 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: we all pay our premiums for ten, fifteen, twenty thirty 521 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 2: forty years, never ever using our insurance, and then when 522 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: you go to use it the very first time, they 523 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: make it as difficult as possible. 524 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and then when it's dropped with this California Fair Plan, 525 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 7: it's just absurdly extensive. 526 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: And what does the fair plan cover? 527 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: Will that cover you if you lose your home or 528 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: is it just a portion of it? 529 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 7: It's just a fire insurance and you also have a 530 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 7: have to have a wrap around policy to cover the 531 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 7: rest of abnormal Oh my god, home insurance policy. So 532 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 7: I have two policies like everyone else has done, the 533 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 7: California Fair Plan and it's just absolutely. 534 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 2: Wait, so your fair plan costs you forty eight hundred 535 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: dollars a year? Does that not include your secondary plan? 536 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 7: So that is what the secondary plan it's but overall 537 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 7: from eight hundred dollars to forty eight hundred dollars, it's 538 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 7: it's more than my Estro account. It's crazy. 539 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well my principle, but. 540 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: It's not you know, but it's not just homeowners insurance. 541 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: My my daughter's insurance. She's twenty years old and she's 542 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: on a policy that we pay for and it was 543 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: twenty four hundred dollars a year, and then she got 544 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: into a small accident and now it's eighty five hundred 545 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: dollars a year. 546 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 7: Okay, but she had an accident. This was all of 547 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 7: a sudden they decided to stop writing for everybody in 548 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 7: I get that area. 549 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: I know it is unbelievably expensive. Right, we appreciate you phoning. 550 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 2: We're gonna take another couple of phone calls one eight 551 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: hundred five to oh one five three four, and then 552 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: you got to get back here at seven o'clock for 553 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: the special. 554 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Whatever you got to do, now, go do it. 555 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: But you got to listen to that live. It is 556 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 2: going to be two hours of must listen to radio 557 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: and you're going to want to hear every moment of that. 558 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: So what have you got to do? Go do it? 559 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: Come back at seven o'clock, seven to nine pm with 560 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 2: Michael Monks. 561 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 5: You're listening to Tim Conway Junior on demand from KFI 562 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 5: AM six forty is. 563 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: The Conway Show. 564 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: We're taking calls from people who have experienced the fire, 565 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to figure out how how you are 566 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: one year later? It was one year ago today that 567 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: the big fires started, the Eating Fire, the Palisades Malibu fire, 568 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: And let's talk to Tracy in act in. Tracy, you're 569 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: on KFI. 570 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: How are you. 571 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 9: Fie great? 572 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on kfive. 573 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 9: Hey, Tim, we're a longtime followers, our whole family at God, 574 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 9: it's great. I we love you guys. We love the 575 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 9: racetrack too beautiful. I just want to say, I know 576 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 9: we might. We were just working over by Santa Anita 577 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 9: the other day. That brought back so many memories. 578 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: Let me tell you. 579 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Let me tell you a quick story about the racetrack. 580 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 2: I bought a pick five ticket last I think it 581 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: was last Friday, and I got the first four races right, 582 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: and I had nine of the eleven horses in the 583 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: last race, and if the seven or eleven one, I lost. 584 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: But if any other horse won, I would have won 585 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: twenty six thousand dollars. And the eleven horse won by 586 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 2: about an inch and a half and I lost. 587 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: So I told my friend. 588 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: I told my friend Todd Shrub that story, and he said, 589 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: for another thirteen dollars, you could have had those other 590 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: two horses. And I said, I had to borrow the 591 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: fifty cents to get that ticket, as it was. 592 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, another lose your story to tell, your. 593 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: Story to tell all right, So you've been living in 594 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: Malibu since nineteen sixty two. 595 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 7: No, so our. 596 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 9: Family from Malibu, My dad was the sheriff in Malibu 597 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 9: in the late fifties and early sixties. So my parents 598 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 9: rented a home off the Bob Hope estate because they 599 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 9: owned that home hill and they have the Malibu fires 600 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 9: and their house burned, so they rebuilt and or the 601 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 9: state rebuilt, and it burned again the next year. So 602 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 9: my parents packed it up and had had enough, you know, 603 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 9: they didn't want to deal with it. My dad got 604 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 9: transferred to the Antelote Valley. My mom always hated them 605 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 9: for that because she said, your father moved me to 606 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 9: this God's first taken place. 607 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: It is quite a shock to move from Malibu to 608 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: Antelope Valley. 609 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 9: Aloe Valley, and that was when there was nothing there 610 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 9: in nineteen sixty two. So the thing is is that 611 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 9: my son own restoration companies and so they're fire chasers, 612 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 9: so they're out of all these fires. 613 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 6: You know. 614 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 9: And my son had called me about five years ago 615 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 9: when they had fires and said, you know what, Mom, 616 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 9: the house would have burned again. 617 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And I don't know how you deal 618 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: with it, you know. 619 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 9: I don't know how they do. But we are stores. 620 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 9: We have two stores up in oak Onne, California. Maybe Kaipa, right, 621 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 9: and we've had three fires there and because of the fires, 622 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 9: we've had mudslides. 623 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 624 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 9: And I feel so bad for the people dealing with 625 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 9: their insurance from last year's fires. 626 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 6: It's the Palisades. 627 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 9: Because because of the mudslide, we lost twenty seven houses 628 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,479 Speaker 9: up on our mountain and or the community did right, 629 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 9: and they weren't going to cover the twenty seven houses, 630 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 9: but because it was related to the fire the year before, 631 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 9: they did cover. 632 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's a great story. 633 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad they we got a positive story out of this. 634 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: All right, Craig and Pacific Palisades, you're on, Kofi. 635 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 8: Yes, I just wanted to thank you so much for 636 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 8: keeping the Palisades as well as Alta Dina on your 637 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 8: program every day. It's great. 638 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: At least we could do so I wanted so I lost. 639 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 8: My house in the Palisades. It's been a very difficult year, 640 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 8: but also trying to move forward. But one of the 641 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 8: things that's bothering me, and I just heard on your 642 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 8: show as well, is the fees to rebuild. These these 643 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 8: rebuild fees and they can cost I don't know, thirty 644 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 8: sixty thousand dollars, and you guys alluded to this just earlier, 645 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 8: but you guys termed them as a cost, and the 646 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 8: city is saying it's a cost. There's no cost because 647 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 8: they never got this money in the first place. This 648 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 8: money i've been rolling in. Uh, it's never rolled in. 649 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 8: It's only going to roll in because through their negligence, 650 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 8: they burned down six thousand houses and now it's going 651 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 8: to roll in. 652 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm with you one hundred percent not a cost. 653 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 8: So it's not a cost. So I don't think we 654 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 8: should term it as a cost when we're talking about it, 655 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 8: because all they did was they're hemorrhaging money in the city. 656 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: Well, it's not us that referred to them as a cost. 657 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: It's the city council and the supervisors that use that term. 658 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,479 Speaker 8: Okay, But then when you guys report it, I'm not 659 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 8: attacking you by. 660 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: Any no, no, no, I'm with you. That is found money. 661 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 2: That money would not have been there unless they were 662 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: negligent and allowing all these homes to burn to the ground. 663 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 8: You're right, right, right, And so when we talk about 664 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 8: you know, when we're referring to the city council calling 665 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 8: it a cost, and I think the next thing out 666 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 8: of people's mouths should be it's not a cost, that's right, 667 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 8: it's and that's what I think is missing a little bit. 668 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 8: It's kind of like, oh, there were hurricane winds on 669 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 8: the day of January seventh, and there wasn't. I had 670 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 8: a weather station, you know, probably half a mile away 671 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 8: from the fire. I can tell you exactly what the 672 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 8: winds were every two seconds. But if no one believes 673 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 8: me that it wasn't hurricane force winds, then why were 674 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 8: they flying air assets over that fire all day long? 675 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 8: And I have video of it as a four fifteen PM. 676 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 8: They probably flew air assets above the fire even after that. 677 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 8: So again, when somebody comes out and says, oh, it 678 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 8: was hurricane force winds or whatever, they say, well, then 679 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 8: why were they flying the airplanes? They can't fly in 680 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 8: hurricane force winds. 681 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: That I'm with you one hundred percent. 682 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: And we should and we should have also had helicopters, 683 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: you know, giving us video and giving the firefighters video 684 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: of what's going on, But we didn't because as Joe 685 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: Biden was in town and the Secret Service wasn't letting 686 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: anybody fly, right. 687 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 8: And then how about Newsom's motor cake going through sunset, 688 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 8: which delayed people evacuating out of Palisades Highlands. That that's 689 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 8: a beautiful aspect of it too. 690 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: It's incredible. 691 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm glad you actually mentioned that 692 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: because I have a couple of friends who live up 693 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: in the Highlands area, and that's where you know, in 694 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades they refer to themselves as the poor people 695 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: in the Palisades up on the Highlands. But I was 696 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 2: always afraid of being up there because there is one 697 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: way in and one way out. If there was ever 698 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 2: an earthquake or a fire like this, people are going 699 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 2: to die over that. 700 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 8: Right, there's no question. And this goes toward all of 701 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 8: the increased housing that everybody is scared of. You know, 702 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 8: it's all well and good, fifteen minute cities, increased housing. 703 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 8: You know, let's put four houses on law that had 704 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 8: won all that stuff. But in the end, the city 705 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 8: is going to have to tell us if no one 706 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 8: can evacuate ever, and they didn't they couldn't, how are 707 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 8: they going to evacuate with more density? They've already stated 708 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 8: into Panga Canyon. Hey, you guys are screwed. Just huddle 709 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 8: in place, because you can't evacuate through to Panga Canyon, 710 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 8: And they just come out and said that. So I 711 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 8: think this whole increased density in lots of problems. The 712 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 8: inveluce should be off the table because of that very reason. 713 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: Craig, I appreciate the call. You're exactly right. 714 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 2: If people had trouble fleeing that fire a year ago, 715 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: how are they going to act when there are three 716 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 2: times more people because the ADUs and the and putting 717 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 2: four units on one lot. 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