Speaker 1: I want to be an American.
Speaker 2: Slony back on seven hundred WLW, I smell football this weekend,
Speaker 2: we jump right into it with the three and five
Speaker 2: Bengals two and a half point dogs against the visiting
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears right before they head into the by The
Speaker 2: Bengals defense is in the If you're to grade this
Speaker 2: out like a I mean they're on pace to challenge
Speaker 2: the twenty twelve Saints for the most yards given up
Speaker 2: in a single season.
Speaker 3: They went to thirty two to sixty three.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at Bengals dot Com and the twenty twelve
Speaker 4: Saints a lot about seven thousand that year. That is
Speaker 4: not a category you want to be. And the question
Speaker 4: is can you stop the bleeding and turn this around?
Speaker 5: On?
Speaker 4: That is the voice of the Bengals and the bear Cats.
Speaker 4: That's Dan Horde. Danny welcome. How's the toast this morning?
Speaker 6: The toast is excellent. I am a toast guy, and
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Speaker 7: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it. Can I get cheese on the toast?
Speaker 3: Or is it just toast? Butter jam jelly?
Speaker 8: What is it?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 6: I think we're gonna have some avocado toast because clearly
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Speaker 6: buttered toast. We got to keep that cheap and make
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the buttered play white toast, that's your lost leader.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so feel free to invest it. Coast of the
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Speaker 4: And in someday, dan years from now, I'll be driving
Speaker 4: along and see Toast of the Town. I'll go, damn it,
Speaker 4: that beautiful son of a bitch did it.
Speaker 7: That is correct.
Speaker 6: That's exactly what you're going to say, And then you're
Speaker 6: going to stop.
Speaker 4: Produce life brilliant. Uh, Danny, let's talk about this, and
Speaker 4: the defense, of course is what ails. The Bengals will
Speaker 4: get to the O line. The big question, of course
Speaker 4: is Joe Flacco. Just a second, but I mentioned how
Speaker 4: poorly the Bengals defense is performing. Underwhelming this season, and
Speaker 4: I think disappointing is probably being gentle.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: People kick the tires on this and go, well, whose
Speaker 3: fault is it?
Speaker 5: Real?
Speaker 3: How much of this is on Al Golden? How much
Speaker 3: is this on the on the talent issue? And do
Speaker 3: they draft?
Speaker 6: Can we get back to code?
Speaker 3: Speaking of the Bengals defense, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's that much on Al Golden quite honestly. Uh,
Speaker 6: lou Ana Roumo is not a bad defensive coordinator. They
Speaker 6: made the change in hopes that lou would be able
Speaker 6: to develop their younger players better than Al was able to,
Speaker 6: and hopefully he still can. That process is underway, but
Speaker 6: it's a talent issue now. It's also an inexperience in
Speaker 6: youth issue. I'm still hopeful that guys like Barrett Carter
Speaker 6: and Demetrius Knight are going to be the linebacker pair
Speaker 6: for many years to come, much like Jermaine Pratt, and
Speaker 6: Logan Wilson before them. But the rookies, and they're doing
Speaker 6: rookie things and it's costing them dearly unfortunately.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, to be fair and not up
Speaker 4: in all rookies. But offense is fourth in the league
Speaker 4: in yards after the catch. Just the tackling has been
Speaker 4: notoriously bad for a while here, I agree to me
Speaker 4: that elevated above coaching. I mean, you should be able
Speaker 4: to tackle by the time you hit the NFL, right.
Speaker 6: Yes and no, you know, tackling it seems so simple,
Speaker 6: but you are also trying to tackle the best people
Speaker 6: in the world. Yes, and if you are the slightest
Speaker 6: bit off, suddenly that ability to you know, get your
Speaker 6: body in front of the guy and bring him down
Speaker 6: becomes getting an arm on the guy and not bringing
Speaker 6: him down. So it's not as simple as you know,
Speaker 6: wrap them up and bring him down. There there's an
Speaker 6: element of being in the right place and moving at
Speaker 6: the right speed. They would'll be able to do it,
Speaker 6: and that's what they are not doing. That's the reason
Speaker 6: why they've allowed eighty mistackles. It's because they're the tiniest
Speaker 6: bit off in the NFL. Is the difference between getting
Speaker 6: Breise Hall on the ground and watching them run for thirty.
Speaker 3: Yards and of course it all starts up front.
Speaker 4: Murphy and Assai and Shamar Stuart a scis fine, and
Speaker 4: now the big question, Okay, what about Trey Hendrickson. And
Speaker 4: that's alarming, and they're just not getting the pressure of
Speaker 4: the Jets ran completely through them on Sunday. I don't
Speaker 4: want to rehash that because that was probably one of
Speaker 4: the worst losses of all time, certainly if maybe the
Speaker 4: defining loss of the Zach Taylor era. That was a
Speaker 4: horrible loss to anh to seventeen and the Jets ran
Speaker 4: right through them.
Speaker 6: That's just not acceptable, especially because of the way the
Speaker 6: game was going. At the end of the first quarter.
Speaker 6: The Bengals were up by ten. At the end of
Speaker 6: the second quarter, they are up by eleven, at the
Speaker 6: end of the third quarter, they were up by fifteen.
Speaker 6: The lead kept going up. How do you lose the
Speaker 6: game under those circumstances, and they managed to do it,
Speaker 6: and it was on the defense. Points against the New
Speaker 6: York Jets. Should get the done, get the job done
Speaker 6: one hundred percent of the time, and because of the
Speaker 6: defensive failures in that game, it did not.
Speaker 4: Now, the thirty eight should get you a win, with
Speaker 4: probably about what eighty percent of the teams in the
Speaker 4: NFL getting that, Yeah, if not higher right, and being
Speaker 4: gentle there, My concern is this too because of okay,
Speaker 4: we'll get the offense. Offense is fine, But Jamar Chase, look,
Speaker 4: I play offense. I'm not worried about what the defense
Speaker 4: has to do and ask about something elseaid, well, you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to ask act Taylor about that. So we're
Speaker 4: starting to get those comments, you could tell, starting to
Speaker 4: boil up on the offensive side and affecting these guys
Speaker 4: are like, hey, we're scoring thirty eight points here, I'm
Speaker 4: doing my job.
Speaker 3: You can't do yours. What does that do inside of
Speaker 3: the locker room?
Speaker 6: Well, it's human nature, and that's in the immediate aftermath
Speaker 6: of a loss like that. You know, what, do you
Speaker 6: expect the guy to say the defense was awesome?
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 6: I mean, there's really not much a guy can say
Speaker 6: other than say nothing. And that's kind of what Jamar
Speaker 6: tried to do. So in a situation like that, see
Speaker 6: what they say a few days later. Yeah, than the
Speaker 6: heat of the moment. It's tough, and I think By
Speaker 6: and large, these guys have stayed together about as much
Speaker 6: as you can. And the same thing happened last year.
Speaker 6: So I don't see a major fracture right now in
Speaker 6: the locker room between offense and defense. But in the
Speaker 6: immediate heat of battle after a game like that.
Speaker 3: What are you share?
Speaker 4: The concern is he start piling up and then what
Speaker 4: happens to that culture? And then then you've got a
Speaker 4: much bigger problem?
Speaker 3: Is the point?
Speaker 4: We don't want to see that, Dan Horde, let's talk
Speaker 4: about probably the biggest issue in this game. Flacco or
Speaker 4: no Flacco. He's stay to day with the spring ac
Speaker 4: joint his right children. I know I had my shoulder
Speaker 4: replaced the AC and it's a horrible, but I can
Speaker 4: image trying to throw a football. Still not sure what
Speaker 4: happens on Sunday. The big question with Joe Flacco is
Speaker 4: can you throw with his left hand.
Speaker 6: Like Gus Baratt tried to do back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I would not recommend that. Okay, it seems to work
Speaker 6: about once a year for Patrick Mahomes, but for anybody else,
Speaker 6: I would stick.
Speaker 3: With your dominant usual. That's a shovele camp.
Speaker 6: But extrous quarterbacks have not historically made it to the NFL. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't know what's going to happen with Joe Placo.
Speaker 6: He threw the ball around a little bit yesterday. He
Speaker 6: was considered limited on the official practice report. Jake Browning
Speaker 6: is obviously taking the bulk of the snaps at practice
Speaker 6: this sweet There's one thing we've learned about Joe Placo.
Speaker 6: He doesn't need a lot of practice to be successful.
Speaker 6: So I guess that's cause for optimism. If he can't go,
Speaker 6: the only hope is from watching him the last few weeks.
Speaker 6: Jake Browning has learned some stuff that will help him
Speaker 6: if he gets back in there. You know, we've seen
Speaker 6: moments obviously in the past where he's played well, so
Speaker 6: I would like to think that he's learned some valuable
Speaker 6: lessons from seeing a forty year old dude with no
Speaker 6: practice come in and play extremely well.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, if you're watching one of the
Speaker 4: greatest quarterbacks in the league and Joe Burrow, and you
Speaker 4: can't learn from him, I guess my point, Dan would be, Okay,
Speaker 4: you're learning from Burrow, you're learning from Joe Flacco. That's
Speaker 4: all good, seems to the casual fan of Kells observer.
Speaker 4: It's not his physical ability. He's been in the league
Speaker 4: long enough. It's what's going on between his ears and
Speaker 4: his inability to process as quickly as Joe Flaco and
Speaker 4: certainly Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6: Well, that's certainly true. The three games that he played
Speaker 6: this year, I mean, he was dreadful and he knows it,
Speaker 6: and we know and everybody to watch him knows it.
Speaker 6: But we also saw him play seven games in twenty
Speaker 6: twenty three where he played pretty well. Maybe there's a
Speaker 6: reset where he says, you know what, I'm not Joe Burrow.
Speaker 6: I can't do Joe Burrow like things. I can't run
Speaker 6: around and make miraculous plays. I need to be more
Speaker 6: like Joe Flacco. Get the ball out in two and
Speaker 6: a half seconds, don't take sacks, throw it away if
Speaker 6: I have to, and you know, with these wide receivers,
Speaker 6: that's enough. So if he winds up playing I would
Speaker 6: like to see more of that version of Jake Brown
Speaker 6: than the one we saw earlier this year.
Speaker 3: We'll know at eleven thirty on Sunday. I guess it's
Speaker 3: going to be a game time.
Speaker 6: Decision, Yes, something like that. Yeah, I don't think he'll
Speaker 6: be anything other than questionable. When the final injury report
Speaker 6: comes out, you know we'll see.
Speaker 4: Some Yeah, and you hope so, because I mean, Browning
Speaker 4: has three starts here. I think they average what less
Speaker 4: than seventy yards per game, easily dead last as far
Speaker 4: as the league average goes to. So you do want
Speaker 4: to see Flacco in there. If he can go, he
Speaker 4: can go. How much of that is Joe's decision? How
Speaker 4: much is the training staff who ultimately, I know coach
Speaker 4: Taylor decides that. But is it kind of up to
Speaker 4: the player to self report in situations like that or
Speaker 4: they just do exhaustive testing to make sure. Because Flacco said, listen,
Speaker 4: I want to go. I want to play. At the
Speaker 4: same time, you don't want to, you know, preempt your
Speaker 4: career any more. A granted on year's he has left forty,
Speaker 4: but you don't want to re injure and make it worse.
Speaker 6: I think this is largely a Flacco thing because I
Speaker 6: think it's a pain management thing. I don't think that
Speaker 6: it's the type of injury that you know, his arm's
Speaker 6: going to fall off. You know, it's a sprain, it's
Speaker 6: not like it's dangling by, you know, a torn ligament
Speaker 6: or something. So I think it's mostly pain management. And
Speaker 6: you've got to trust Joe Flacco to give you on
Speaker 6: his feedback. And uh, you know, I think at this
Speaker 6: stage of his career he'll do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rest elevate, put some ice on.
Speaker 6: It has to be able to Yeah, he's got to
Speaker 6: be able to play effectively. Right, He's got to be
Speaker 6: able to communicate to the medical staff. You know what,
Speaker 6: I can't throw a football recently. It hurts too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you'll be to see that right away too.
Speaker 4: So and it's not just Joe Flack. Obviously, Trey Henderson
Speaker 4: doesn't look like he's going to go. Shaka Hayward is
Speaker 4: expected to miss what a month. He has a broken leg.
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's broken, but it is a
Speaker 6: fibular injury, and he is on injured reserve, so he's
Speaker 6: out for at least four games.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 4: And on the other side of the ball, listen, Uh,
Speaker 4: the bear is actually I mean you look at all
Speaker 4: their top receivers and people with the most receiving I
Speaker 4: there are like five guys that are that are banged
Speaker 4: up that may not play, so that that there's definitely
Speaker 4: an opportunity there for this defense because their top five
Speaker 4: guys misspracticed this week. Also, Rashawn Johnson there running back,
Speaker 4: didn't practice this week. Dominique Robinson d L defensive lineman
Speaker 4: didn't practice. Cole c Meet's banged up back injury. So
Speaker 4: it's not like the Bengals with Trey Henderson Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: are the only team that isn't decimated by injuries right now,
Speaker 4: because look, Chicago could actually be worse outside of the
Speaker 4: starting quarterback.
Speaker 6: Seems like their injury port though, is trending in a
Speaker 6: positive direction during the course of the week. So at
Speaker 6: the beginning of the week, some of those guys that
Speaker 6: you mentioned out than they were limited, and so I
Speaker 6: suspect that most of their most important players will be
Speaker 6: able to answer the bell. Doesn't mean it'll be one
Speaker 6: hundred percent, but I would expect them to play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And what else can you said about the Bengals offense?
Speaker 4: I mean they're good enough to win. You know, no,
Speaker 4: no offense, p Ryan. The running game is really good.
Speaker 4: Everything is clicking. The offensive line is is past protecting well,
Speaker 4: they're blocking roun Chase Brown's gonna run. To imagine they're
Speaker 4: going to run the ball at the Bears heavily on
Speaker 4: Sunday as well. Pretty solid top to ball, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, especially if Jake, especially if Jake Browning wines up
Speaker 6: starting the game. I think that's the thing that gives
Speaker 6: me the most hope. So two weeks ago, in the
Speaker 6: win over Pittsburgh, the Bengals ran for more than one
Speaker 6: hundred and forty yards. Last week in the loss, I
Speaker 6: hate saying it. To the Jets, they ran for more
Speaker 6: than one hundred and eighty. So they finally got the
Speaker 6: running game cooking. Let's give the offensive line some love
Speaker 6: because they rarely get it in recent years, and they've
Speaker 6: averaged seven yards per attempt on the ground, So I'm
Speaker 6: optimistic that maybe they've turned the corner where the running
Speaker 6: game is concerned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Bears are not particularly good with run defense.
Speaker 4: They've struggled. They allowed what over five yards of carry
Speaker 4: too well out stare Henry, I guess, and two touchdowns.
Speaker 4: But they're everything like allowing five point three per carry
Speaker 4: and average that's among the top of the league, or
Speaker 4: I guess worse than the league is.
Speaker 6: Accually, I think they're twenty fifth or twenty sixth. That's
Speaker 6: stopping the run they're giving up more than one hundred
Speaker 6: and forty rushing yards per game. So yeah, that's kind
Speaker 6: of the when you circle strengths and weaknesses for the
Speaker 6: two teams. You've got a team that's at least run
Speaker 6: it well for two weeks in a row against the
Speaker 6: defense that hasn't been great against stopping the run with
Speaker 6: a question of question markets your quarterback position. So that
Speaker 6: all adds up to let's see if the Bengals can
Speaker 6: run the ball, control all the clock a little bit,
Speaker 6: prevent Ben Johnson come from coming up with incredibly creative
Speaker 6: offensive plays, because we know that's why he was the
Speaker 6: hottest coaching candidate out there before the Bears hired him.
Speaker 6: And maybe that's the formula for viction. He keep the
Speaker 6: defense off the field.
Speaker 3: You hope.
Speaker 4: So you know, between Brown and p Ryan, could do
Speaker 4: you know, put up three hundred yards and four or
Speaker 4: five touchdowns and still lose with the defense. That's the problem.
Speaker 4: Other side, Caleb Williams no tds in the last two games.
Speaker 4: So that's a good trend for the Bengals. They've got
Speaker 4: some tools, though I mean a dun say they're wide receivers.
Speaker 4: Clearly their best was watching some a little bit of
Speaker 4: the Bears a couple of weeks ago to DJ Morrise
Speaker 4: pretty solid. They got some guys that can hurt you.
Speaker 4: Those are the two roma. Doonzay is a study, was
Speaker 4: the ninth pick in the draft last year. DJ Moore
Speaker 4: has been great for a long time. He's got a
Speaker 4: bunch of one thousand yard seasons in his NFL career.
Speaker 4: So Caleb Williams joining to those two guys is the
Speaker 4: biggest thing you got to worry about. Deander Smith, I
Speaker 4: think is a decent not great running back, but decent
Speaker 4: and a dunk. Cole Commet's a good tight end. So
Speaker 4: you know, it's not one of the best offenses in
Speaker 4: the league. But they've got guys.
Speaker 6: Every NFL team does, and those two wide receivers in particular,
Speaker 6: I think aren't good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, IM really going to miss Trey here.
Speaker 4: And this is a chance for Shamar Stewart to put
Speaker 4: something up and show with something because Williams have been
Speaker 4: sacked like sick. He's been sacked a lot. I forget
Speaker 4: what the number is, but I think twelve sacks and
Speaker 4: seven games this season. So it's not like that line's
Speaker 4: doing a great job of protecting him. It takes a
Speaker 4: lot of time to get rid of the ball as well.
Speaker 4: I think third longest in the NFL. Somebody well well
Speaker 4: over three seconds, I think. So there's an opportunity here.
Speaker 4: I'd love to see Shamar step up and do something
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too. Schamar looked really good in Week one
Speaker 6: against Cleveland, got hurt in Week two and hasn't really
Speaker 6: looked good since. So I don't know if the ankle
Speaker 6: is one hundred percent, I don't know how much that
Speaker 6: is hampering him. I'm still bullish on him long term,
Speaker 6: but I'd like to see it now because if Trey
Speaker 6: is out, and it certainly looks like he will be,
Speaker 6: somebody's got to step up and put some pressure on
Speaker 6: the quarterback, and Shamar Stewart's the guy that has the
Speaker 6: most talent at least to be able to do that.
Speaker 4: Now, you're over three seconds before you release the ball,
Speaker 4: you're just begging to get drilled. Hopefully the long can
Speaker 4: can get that done. Let's pivot here to this ESPN
Speaker 4: College game Day is in town, Danny. You'll be in
Speaker 4: Utah and it's a ten to fifteen start. That could
Speaker 4: be the longest pregame show in the history of ESPN.
Speaker 6: In town as inn in Salt Lake City, not in
Speaker 6: town as in in Cincinnati. So it's the seventeenth ranked
Speaker 6: Bearcats YEP against the twenty fourth ranked use right on
Speaker 6: Saturday night, ten fifteen Cincinnati time, eight fifteen in Salt
Speaker 6: Lake City. Huge game for the Bearcats. They are an
Speaker 6: underdog for the first time in a while. But if
Speaker 6: they can pull off a mild upset, suddenly making the
Speaker 6: twelfth team college football playoff is really on the table.
Speaker 6: And you know, people have been talking about Cincinnati having
Speaker 6: a chance to get to the Big twelve championship game
Speaker 6: in Dallas at the end of the year, and that
Speaker 6: would be incredible, But I really don't think there's been
Speaker 6: much buzz about Cincinnati potentially making the twelve team college
Speaker 6: football playoffs. That's on the table if that's really on
Speaker 6: the table, if they win this week. But I like
Speaker 6: him talking about that. It's just, you know, you want
Speaker 6: to be stealthy, just kind.
Speaker 3: Of sneak in.
Speaker 6: Well, they have been stealthy to this point, stealthy, but
Speaker 6: they've climbed a number seventeen in the country. They've been
Speaker 6: on a roll. They're playing great and.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm not sure who who's going to be the
Speaker 3: quarterback though. That's the thing.
Speaker 4: Is Dan Pierre, Devin dan Pier or the true freshman
Speaker 4: in Fickland? What's going on there?
Speaker 6: Devin Damn Pier. Last week's game against Colorado, true freshman
Speaker 6: Bird Stickland started that game and Utah led forty three
Speaker 6: nothing at halftime, so the true freshman played pretty well
Speaker 6: for the first college start. Devin Damn Pier will play
Speaker 6: if healthy. He's really good as well. He's the only
Speaker 6: quarterback in the country who's had games with three hundred
Speaker 6: or more passing yards and two hundred or more rushing yards,
Speaker 6: so he can do both. He's a transfer from New Mexico,
Speaker 6: where he was great last year. Came with his offensive
Speaker 6: coordinator to Utah, so I think Dan Pierre will start,
Speaker 6: but Utah is fine with either of those guys at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Evan Pryor's out though looking out anyway, not definitive.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 6: Cincinnati has the zoom and boom backfield. Evan Pryor is
Speaker 6: the really fast guy. Howie Walker is the powerful guy.
Speaker 6: If Evan can't play and it doesn't look good, Howie
Speaker 6: Walker will wind up getting more carries probably than usual,
Speaker 6: but Manny Covey would be the guy that would you
Speaker 6: step in for Evin Pryor, and he's got similar traits,
Speaker 6: maybe not quite as fast, but he's really looked good
Speaker 6: when he's played. So I think they're fine even if
Speaker 6: Evan Pryor.
Speaker 4: I watch all their games. It's a fun of course,
Speaker 4: we've talked about every wee. Barcaster are just fun to watch.
Speaker 4: I know, Utah one of the best league at getting
Speaker 4: to the quarterbacks, so there's about right there. Can can
Speaker 4: Soors be get rid of the ball before Utah can
Speaker 4: get after him? And you know the classic ballot doesn't
Speaker 4: come down all of that, of course, but uh, if
Speaker 4: you talk and get to sores By more often, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be a little bit more of a challenge for
Speaker 4: the Bearcats, who are the underdog in this game. He's
Speaker 4: Dan Horde. He goes to Utah, he has some toast,
Speaker 4: and then he flies back to Cincinnati for Sunday's game.
Speaker 4: He gets it all done. Dan, all the best, buddy,
Speaker 4: thanks for jumping on this morning.
Speaker 6: In college basketball on Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Geez, we got there going on too.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Are you calling AFC a playoff game? On Friday Sunday
Speaker 3: night too. I mean, then else he can do.
Speaker 6: Tommy G's got that. Okay, Tommy got that and it's solid.
Speaker 6: I was I have subscribed Apple TV. I switched it over.
Speaker 6: That's a cool part about Apple.
Speaker 3: I wish other uh uh providers would do that so
Speaker 3: you can choose the local broadcast. I think that's phenomenon.
Speaker 6: I'm praying for that day. Yes, when there's an option
Speaker 6: on your TV to sync up the sound correct with
Speaker 6: the TV picture correct. Probably coming to the NBA, sorry
Speaker 6: to the NFL, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 3: Well, why do you bump that over up over your
Speaker 3: toast project? That sounds like it's more.
Speaker 6: I only have one brilliant idea in Meloney, and my
Speaker 6: one brilliant idea is my franchise, not.
Speaker 4: Electric, not electronics. He's he's bread, he's bred. Danny all
Speaker 4: the best, safe travel. So Wis'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 6: Done good, buddy, All right, So some of.
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Speaker 7: Opathy is ABC Willgans from New York.
Speaker 3: All right, got lots of sports happening this weekend. You got,
Speaker 3: of course, the Bengals in action, the Bearcats.
Speaker 4: We have FC Cincinnati big playoff match tests, I guess
Speaker 4: as we would call that in Columbus, and they can
Speaker 4: advance in the playoffs. I've got lots of you see
Speaker 4: basketball starting on Monday. Of course, there's plenty of time
Speaker 4: in between two check up on streaming or if you
Speaker 4: want to go to the theater and on that. This
Speaker 4: morning's our buddy, Will Gans from ABC News, New York.
Speaker 3: Well, how you doing.
Speaker 10: I'm doing well, thank you.
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Speaker 4: Definitely Snickers, Reese's that kind of thing. Yeah, I'm down
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Speaker 3: It's like every week we have a new whatever the
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Speaker 7: what the weather's going to be from your little ABC
Speaker 7: meteorologist and suddenly that's gone. Yeah, it's it's it seems,
Speaker 7: you know, annoying at the very least for you know,
Speaker 7: the consumer. But I think that you know this, this blackout,
Speaker 7: it'll be interesting to see how quickly it gets resolved.
Speaker 6: For sure.
Speaker 3: Well, and it happens all the time.
Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, well we're gonna drop this network
Speaker 4: or that network, and we're not quite sure why somebody
Speaker 4: wants more money. I don't know how it works. You
Speaker 4: probably don't know what works. But you turn it on
Speaker 4: and like, I want to watch some college foot Oh
Speaker 4: I can't because well now they dropped a YouTube, TV,
Speaker 4: you dropped ESPN. Hopefully get this thing sorted out. Let's
Speaker 4: talk about I saw the trailer for this Emma Stone
Speaker 4: and Bogonia does not look like Emma Stone, and it's
Speaker 4: just just her makeup alone is fascinating.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 7: So this is she has re teemed with the director
Speaker 7: of Poor Things, if you saw that movie that won
Speaker 7: her her last oscar, and this one is maybe slightly
Speaker 7: less bizarre are but it's still pretty crazy. So the
Speaker 7: the plot of this movie is that these two guys
Speaker 7: who you know by by all stretches of the imagination,
Speaker 7: don't really have much going for them, and they decide
Speaker 7: that they think that the CEO of a local biomedical
Speaker 7: company is an alien, and so they kidnap her and
Speaker 7: they are keeping her in the basement and they're trying
Speaker 7: to convince her to admit that she is an alien
Speaker 7: and so and that's like all in the first five
Speaker 7: minutes basically is the kidnap scene. And so it is
Speaker 7: you know, gripping, you know, from the start it both
Speaker 7: performances from Emma Stone and Jesse Plemons plays like the
Speaker 7: main kind of kidnapper guy. Uh, they're amazing in it, and.
Speaker 3: I it's crazy.
Speaker 7: The movie is like it's really really crazy, and I,
Speaker 7: you know, I thought in theaters yesterday and yeah, I've
Speaker 7: been thinking a lot about it, so I would imagine, yeah,
Speaker 7: she'll probably get a nomine and maybe Jesse Plummings as well,
Speaker 7: although I will say, like, you know, it's not it's intense.
Speaker 7: It's intense and it's weird, so maybe not for everybody.
Speaker 7: Like I don't know that I would take my parents
Speaker 7: to see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what kind of movie you take
Speaker 3: your parasure. That's a really narrow window, that's a that's
Speaker 3: like landed at an aircraft carrier. Right, It's like, I'm
Speaker 3: not quite.
Speaker 7: Sure you're exactly right. Yeah, it has to be a
Speaker 7: very specific, you know, palatable type of film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be I want to bring Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, so Emma Stone be going, yeah, it looks
Speaker 3: in the trailer looked amazing.
Speaker 4: I will try to figure it out just watching and going.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like a horror film or
Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of it.
Speaker 6: It's I mean, it's part of it.
Speaker 7: I would almost call it like a dark comedy, but
Speaker 7: it is like really intense and then you know, especially
Speaker 7: the last third of the movie is also really violent,
Speaker 7: so like, you know, there's a little bit of everything
Speaker 7: going on.
Speaker 4: In this movie gotcha all right? So that is Emma
Speaker 4: Stone in Bogonia. What else you what are you have?
Speaker 3: Streaming?
Speaker 9: Streaming?
Speaker 7: There's a really really like beautiful film. It's called Sorry Baby,
Speaker 7: and it did really well at a lot of the
Speaker 7: film festivals this year, and it had a really quiet
Speaker 7: release in theaters at the end of the summer, and
Speaker 7: now it's streaming on HBO Max. And this is about
Speaker 7: a woman who pretty much from the jump, you realize
Speaker 7: that something pretty terrible has happened to her fairly recently,
Speaker 7: and you don't know exactly what it is, and you
Speaker 7: spend a lot of the movie sort of skirting around
Speaker 7: it and people talking about it without talking about it.
Speaker 7: But it's really about like how we continue with our
Speaker 7: life and pick up the pieces after something bad has happened.
Speaker 7: And she has like this amazing friend who comes and
Speaker 7: visits her from New York and you know, it's it's
Speaker 7: really lovely and it's all written, directed by and starring
Speaker 7: this woman, Eva Victor. So I think a lot of
Speaker 7: people are sort of saying that this is her big,
Speaker 7: you know, movie that will really put her into the spotlight.
Speaker 7: And I think Eva Victor is a name that we
Speaker 7: might hear a lot of going forward but that's sorry baby,
Speaker 7: And it's streaming on HBO Max.
Speaker 3: All right, well gans, what else you got?
Speaker 7: And last but not like because the first two are
Speaker 7: a little heavy. I mean, I said violence and aliens
Speaker 7: with the first one. Second one is a little bit sad,
Speaker 7: even though parts of it are very funny. As well,
Speaker 7: there's a podcast, Amy Poehler's podcast. It's called Good Hang,
Speaker 7: and in addition to being able to listen to it,
Speaker 7: you can also watch the full episode and it honestly
Speaker 7: feels like a talk show almost. You can watch it
Speaker 7: on Spotify or on YouTube or whatever. And the idea
Speaker 7: is that she'll have a guest, say Kristin Wagon, but
Speaker 7: before Kristin Wig comes on, she'll talk to somebody who's
Speaker 7: worked with Kristin and they speak good about her behind
Speaker 7: her back, and then the guests will come on and
Speaker 7: you know, they have the whole conversation and one of
Speaker 7: the main, you know, tenth poles of the show is like,
Speaker 7: what are you listening to or watching or doing to
Speaker 7: make you laugh, to make you happy, to keep spirits high?
Speaker 7: So that's basically the vibe of the whole podcast, and
Speaker 7: it's doing really well, Like some episodes four million listeners
Speaker 7: on Spotify alone, which like you know that that's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: Joe Rogan level podcast numbers, you know, so, and it's
Speaker 7: really you know, she she just got it going a
Speaker 7: couple of months ago, and and you know, there's a
Speaker 7: guest for every type of fan of especially comedy and
Speaker 7: and movies and stuff. But she's had Marishka Hargete on
Speaker 7: and all kinds of different people. But it's I'm really
Speaker 7: enjoying the podcast.
Speaker 3: How long are the episodes?
Speaker 6: About an hour?
Speaker 4: Okay, that's like the perfect time too, And she's incredibly entertaining.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know we're familiar with her work from
Speaker 4: SNL and and more, Tina Fey or you know, talk
Speaker 4: about great female comedy teams right there when they do
Speaker 4: get together.
Speaker 3: Not always, but uh yeah, that's that's really did the
Speaker 3: check out?
Speaker 7: I think? Yeah, I I highly recommend it. And Tina
Speaker 7: Fey is one of I think was the first guest,
Speaker 7: which makes you know it.
Speaker 3: Would have to be yeah by law, I think sure.
Speaker 4: So all right, you got Amy Polo's podcast, you want
Speaker 4: to check that out, but also Emma Stone and Bagonia
Speaker 4: and sorry baby is streaming on HBO. Will Gans in
Speaker 4: New York. All the best, buddy, Thanks again, thanks for
Speaker 4: jumping on. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 7: Happy Halloween.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, Happy Halloween. Go get you some peanut filled candy.
Speaker 4: That's what we need, peanut filled candy. News on the way,
Speaker 4: and just a few here, it's a Scottslan show back
Speaker 4: and forth, seven hundred w It's been three long months
Speaker 4: since the July twenty sixth Summer Slam happened at Fourth
Speaker 4: and Elm downtown that brought Cincinnati the eyes of people,
Speaker 4: countless people across the globe when viral video broke of
Speaker 4: that mob fight down town, and of course a lot
Speaker 4: is min made down between. The big question would be, okay,
Speaker 4: it's been three months, we've not heard a damn thing
Speaker 4: about this. Why is this being buried? Why isn't this
Speaker 4: still front page news? In a sense is that we're
Speaker 4: still not hearing anything coming out of this case, prosecution,
Speaker 4: defense or otherwise. It's at estyle made. Of course, as
Speaker 4: much as the city could have kept under wraps, and
Speaker 4: that would be the sealed documents, including prosecuting Alex Stravinsky,
Speaker 4: the victim in this case, and not only charging him,
Speaker 4: but stealing the records. There's a lot of prosecutors, a
Speaker 4: lot of people lost that I've never seen that before.
Speaker 4: And it goes to show you that they want to
Speaker 4: keep this on reps. And it ties into with Terry Thiji. Right,
Speaker 4: we're going to fire her and now we're going to
Speaker 4: hire a law firm to investigate, but it's going to
Speaker 4: take a few months. Basically, we want this to all
Speaker 4: to break after the election. Once we're we elected, then
Speaker 4: we'll address the issue. So there's a Facebook page, a
Speaker 4: local facebook is Signaled ninety nine and they follow a
Speaker 4: lot of the inner workings and a lot of the
Speaker 4: dirt that comes out of CPD and they just release
Speaker 4: video and again, you can try to restrict information coming
Speaker 4: out all the time. We know about leaks out of
Speaker 4: the White House, right, Trump trying to stop leaks, Biden
Speaker 4: would try to stop leaks. The information is going to
Speaker 4: get out there. You have whistleblowers and people who want
Speaker 4: to expose the truth of what really happens. Signal ninety
Speaker 4: nine is doing that. So they just released surveillance video
Speaker 4: that they kept under lock and key. The city did
Speaker 4: because they didn't want you to see this and somebody
Speaker 4: leaked at the signal ninety nine. They put it on Facebook,
Speaker 4: and that's probably causing heads to explode down at City
Speaker 4: Hall right now, because it's not good. It's not good
Speaker 4: for the narrative that this was a racially motivated attack
Speaker 4: of a white guy on a whole bunch of black folk.
Speaker 4: It's not helping that narrative that they're so desperately trying
Speaker 4: to push and sell you. So let's back up a
Speaker 4: second and look at the video and if we go
Speaker 4: back to court, and this was about a month after
Speaker 4: the twenty six riot, so it was back in August.
Speaker 4: Kip Guyn, an assistant prosecutor for Hamlin County, in the
Speaker 4: first hearing, said, look, we have evidence. We have video
Speaker 4: that shows that Alex Stravinsky is the victim in this case.
Speaker 4: That a minute forty seven seconds is as when we
Speaker 4: see the video of him punching the black guy in
Speaker 4: the red shirt or slapping his face anyway, kicking a
Speaker 4: car and slapping, he's like, oh my god, white guys
Speaker 4: start a fight. Of course, we had the preachers and
Speaker 4: Scottie Johnson, everybody else who would hear saying, my god,
Speaker 4: why are you dis charging the black people, not the
Speaker 4: white guy. And of course we have politically motivated charge
Speaker 4: against Travinsky that came essentially from the top on down
Speaker 4: from either the mayor or the city manager, and forcing
Speaker 4: Captain Adam Haini to write that citation when his officers wouldn't.
Speaker 4: And so in this new video then it's pretty far away,
Speaker 4: but you can pretty clearly see what's going on here.
Speaker 4: Is early on in this thing, a man comes up behind.
Speaker 4: This is well before a minute forty seven. So according
Speaker 4: to Travinsky and his lawyer, he said, listen, the minute
Speaker 4: we left the club from the VIP area and even
Speaker 4: inside there were were getting epithets hurled at us. So
Speaker 4: we thought, you know, we're gonna ignore it. We're gonna walk.
Speaker 4: It was after the music festival, so we're gonna just walk.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go out here. So the mind now at
Speaker 4: this point, according to him, people are lobbying racial epithets
Speaker 4: at him. In the group he is with the white
Speaker 4: folks also pushing and shoving, some pushing. But we did
Speaker 4: see early in this video, this new video, that he
Speaker 4: was struck in the head from behind, and it's pretty
Speaker 4: clear and he is one of these suspects slash victims
Speaker 4: in the case. And at this point, after getting struck
Speaker 4: in the back of the head, he then turns around.
Speaker 4: They kind of move into the street to confront the
Speaker 4: people who are punching him from behind. You see him
Speaker 4: kick a car, that white car that comes to question,
Speaker 4: and then he's struck multiple times by the man in
Speaker 4: the red shirt. And at this point that's when he
Speaker 4: slaps him in the face. Boy, that truly doesn't sound
Speaker 4: like Chravinsky was the one starting a fight with a
Speaker 4: bunch of a bunch of folks.
Speaker 3: So who's outnumbered?
Speaker 4: You know, there are hundreds of I mean dozens probably
Speaker 4: in that particular I should say hundreds, but certainly hundreds
Speaker 4: and hundreds of people downtown got along just fine except
Speaker 4: for this particular crowd. And he's struck from behind and
Speaker 4: essentially said that's it. I'm drawn a line in the sand.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to become a victim of a race crime.
Speaker 3: And of course now he's prosecuted because of the man's
Speaker 3: and it blows up the entire narrative that they've had
Speaker 3: going to this point. So again, you know, you can
Speaker 3: try and cover this stuff up, and I don't call it. No,
Speaker 3: it's sealed because there's an investigation. Really, because in other
Speaker 3: cases it doesn't take It's three months in and no
Speaker 3: one's talking about this anymore. You've completely killed the story.
Speaker 3: But thank god that we have people out there, We
Speaker 3: have whistleblowers wanting to do this kind of stuff and
Speaker 3: props to signal ninety nine for release in the video
Speaker 3: that everyone to see. It just makes that case look
Speaker 3: worse and worse and worse. Now it did drop on
Speaker 3: a Friday. We'll pick this back up again Monday because
Speaker 3: I think it's still part of the new cycle. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be really interesting. But that's the very latest on this,
Speaker 3: so we'll pick it back up again on Monday. How
Speaker 3: does that sound?
Speaker 4: Because you know, Friday is our special time to just
Speaker 4: kind of chill and we'll worry about the Bearcats, the Bengals,
Speaker 4: and a whole bunch of other fun stuff which we'll
Speaker 4: get to ahead at ten thirty five with Austin Elmore.
Speaker 4: It's a Scott's Loan show on the Home of the
Speaker 4: Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WW.
Speaker 1: Since you want to be American, He's got a.
Speaker 4: Flow show back on seven hundred WOW. As you know,
Speaker 4: I'm sick in the head for the trades, passionate about it,
Speaker 4: love it. I want to see more young people and heck,
Speaker 4: even older young people get into the trades because it
Speaker 4: can really change your life, especially if you're not, you know,
Speaker 4: someone who wants to spend a lot of time in
Speaker 4: school or the investment. You don't have the money, and
Speaker 4: it's an honorable profession going into something you're doing. You're
Speaker 4: helping people fix things like you know, plumbing, electrical in
Speaker 4: this case HVAC and from the Southern Ohio Technical Institute.
Speaker 3: On that is a Mike Tribble. He's a president. Mike,
Speaker 3: welcome to show.
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty good?
Speaker 6: How you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm doing fine, I'm doing fine. Thanks for jumping on
Speaker 4: this morning. You know, we often hear about the lack
Speaker 4: of opportunity for young people, especially in the city, especially
Speaker 4: in urban areas. There's no good jobs out there, and
Speaker 4: I find like hell to get the word out. Often
Speaker 4: the deaf ears that, well, yeah, you can change your life,
Speaker 4: to project your life as you just simply go into
Speaker 4: the trades. And maybe academically speaking, you're not inclined to
Speaker 4: sit in a classroom for eight hours a day and
Speaker 4: times what sixteen years, it feels like I want to
Speaker 4: go out and do stuff, see stuff, build stuff, make money,
Speaker 4: but I need to change the scenery. I'm not a bookworm,
Speaker 4: so to speak. There's nothing wrong with that, and we
Speaker 4: have made that for so long an indictment against the
Speaker 4: child and the family. I think we've runed countless lives
Speaker 4: over the past couple generations because we looked at trade
Speaker 4: work as dirty work.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that's true.
Speaker 4: Because especially this time of year, we all have furnaces
Speaker 4: and they're starting to kick on. And if it doesn't
Speaker 4: kick on, you call probably one of your graduates.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, Scott. You know you hit the nail right
Speaker 8: on the head. You know, all these young people that
Speaker 8: are graduating out of high school and they've been influenced
Speaker 8: and they've been told so many times, you.
Speaker 6: Have to go to college.
Speaker 8: You have to go to college.
Speaker 6: You have to go to college.
Speaker 8: We'll listen. You know, that's not everybody's cup of tea.
Speaker 8: As you pointed out. You know, some people, you know,
Speaker 8: are just born to can find and some guys are
Speaker 8: really good with their hands and they work well with
Speaker 8: their hands. And listen, let's face it, anymore. What's a
Speaker 8: four year business degree get you, Scott? It gets you
Speaker 8: a four year degree. It gets you a thirty thousand
Speaker 8: dollars student debt that you have to pay for over.
Speaker 6: Who knows how long.
Speaker 8: And guess what you know. So at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, what do you get a thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 8: a year at a coffee shop?
Speaker 3: Or maybe you do get maybe you do get into
Speaker 3: a company, Mike, And guess what. AI comes along and
Speaker 3: knocks you out of a job. AI is not going
Speaker 3: to replace an HVAC tech.
Speaker 8: Absolutely not. It will not replace an HVAC tech. And
Speaker 8: by the way, these young students that are graduating and
Speaker 8: going into the field, for the most part, I just
Speaker 8: want to tell everybody, these guys are going into the
Speaker 8: trade at about a forty thousand dollars a year's start, Okay,
Speaker 8: plus they're overtime and it's just great. It's in five
Speaker 8: years they could be six figures.
Speaker 4: And yeah, depending on how do you want to work.
Speaker 4: But in the more experience you have, you move up
Speaker 4: the chain. Maybe you oversee your own crew, maybe your management,
Speaker 4: maybe you own your own company. I know plenty of
Speaker 4: people started out just as attack in many areas that
Speaker 4: have gone on to start their own companies or take
Speaker 4: a company over, and never saw that on the horizon
Speaker 4: when they're in school. I just thought, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna live hand in the mouth the rest of
Speaker 4: my life. But you know, as you know, Mike, nine
Speaker 4: of its showing up right, So take me through that.
Speaker 4: Your program at Southern Ohio Technical listens to the HVAC program.
Speaker 4: How long does it take to complete that entire I'll
Speaker 4: just call it what it is, a degree program, the training.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 8: It's it's actually you get five certifications and you do
Speaker 8: get a degree with that as well. But it is
Speaker 8: an accelerated course which usually takes about eleven months and
Speaker 8: other schools, but ours is accelerated to two hundred hours.
Speaker 8: It's a pretty uh intense course. But once you get out,
Speaker 8: you come out on the other side of the of
Speaker 8: the rainbow.
Speaker 9: Go to speak.
Speaker 8: The course will give you five certifications that you need.
Speaker 8: You're six oh eight, which is a government certification that
Speaker 8: you need to work in the industry. Without that you
Speaker 8: cannot work, okay, And then for other HVAC Excellence degree
Speaker 8: certifications you'll get. And then also the actual degree from
Speaker 8: the school from the career college, our career college itself,
Speaker 8: so you'll have all the credentially, and you need to
Speaker 8: start into the business. And our school is very big
Speaker 8: in the job placement. I want to add that in
Speaker 8: good word about an eighty five percent job placement with
Speaker 8: all our graduating students.
Speaker 3: That's incredible. Say that number again.
Speaker 8: Word about eighty five percent job placement. That's awesome with
Speaker 8: all of our graduating students. Think about that eighty five percent.
Speaker 8: Now you get a degree.
Speaker 4: Now, if it's in a field that's in high demand, sure,
Speaker 4: but so many college graduates now are leaving and going, wow,
Speaker 4: there's no jobs out there. You are placing nearly nine
Speaker 4: to ten in a position. That's that's incredible. Well, by
Speaker 4: the way, eleven months of study and you leave usually
Speaker 4: with no debt, and you're making forty thousand dollars plus
Speaker 4: a minimum forty thousand dollars your first year out.
Speaker 3: What's not the love about that?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well not our Now let me correct you there.
Speaker 8: Our school is not eleven months. Ours is ten weeks,
Speaker 8: ten hours, okay, ten weeks. It's accelerated. Most of these
Speaker 8: courses are six hundred hour eleven months ours.
Speaker 3: Is I got you and I miss heard. I miss heard.
Speaker 3: I went well, eleven eleven months, that's pretty you're gonna
Speaker 3: know a lot about HVAC and eleven months, so okay,
Speaker 3: But ten weeks and forty grand, that's that's incredible.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: But you got to show up, you got to do
Speaker 4: the work. You've got to be interested and and be
Speaker 4: aggressed with that. This is money that can change your life.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 4: What about financing? You know, in a lot of these cases,
Speaker 4: an employer, a prospective employer, will pay for the bill
Speaker 4: because they need their in demand right. I mean every
Speaker 4: h v C company I know. Uh, they're a fall
Speaker 4: over each other try and get talent. How does that
Speaker 4: shake out relative to how much the degree itself cost
Speaker 4: or the program it self cost.
Speaker 8: Mike, Well, actually, you know, we we do have some
Speaker 8: employers that sends students to us, okay, and we train
Speaker 8: those students for the employers.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 8: But also as far as student financie is concerned, we
Speaker 8: have several different avenues. We have what's called you put
Speaker 8: some money down. We have tv D TFC, which is
Speaker 8: kind of a where you do some fund student financing
Speaker 8: on your own. The course, by the way, it's only
Speaker 8: sixty five hundred dollars for the ten weeks. Okay, So
Speaker 8: it's uh, it's it's relatively extremely affordable, okay. And we
Speaker 8: all the different financing programs that are out there, we
Speaker 8: have several different options to go. We we are a
Speaker 8: veteran friendly school. I wanted to point that out. So
Speaker 8: we for the vets that have post nine eleven benefits, UH,
Speaker 8: we are our school takes that so they the veterans,
Speaker 8: will pay for the UH for the sixty five dollars
Speaker 8: UH tuition fee. Also, we have some grant money that
Speaker 8: is available okay for not just a few of them
Speaker 8: post post on eleven benefits, uh, the guys that have
Speaker 8: exhausted those benefits. But we have UH benefits also for
Speaker 8: high schoolers okay, that have graduated from high school. We
Speaker 8: have some short grant money from the Charles Share Foundation.
Speaker 8: And that, by the way, that's a brand new program
Speaker 8: that we're getting ready to launch here in February from
Speaker 8: the Charles Shore Foundation.
Speaker 6: If you're in one of the if you're a high school.
Speaker 8: Counselor and you're listening to this program right now, please
Speaker 8: get in touch with the school. We have grant money
Speaker 8: for your graduating seniors. Okay, and they can come with
Speaker 8: come to the school for a class that's going to
Speaker 8: be starting strictly for the high school seniors in February,
Speaker 8: and that's going to be the ten week program before
Speaker 8: they even graduate.
Speaker 6: From high school. Okay, well, nice, we have that's available,
Speaker 6: you know, So we we.
Speaker 8: Have a lot of different options.
Speaker 3: Mike Triple is here.
Speaker 4: He's the president of Southern Ohio Technical Institute, jumping on
Speaker 4: this morning to talk about good opportunities for people. Because
Speaker 4: everything we talk about in our city in Cincinnat, whether
Speaker 4: it's crime or you know, look at snap benefits and
Speaker 4: things like that. You look at us and go, well,
Speaker 4: how do we prevent that from happening? How do we
Speaker 4: make people less dependent on well, good jobs and there's
Speaker 4: plenty of good jobs out there. We have a huge disconnect, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: and the gap is starting to shrink, There's no question
Speaker 4: about it. Between getting young people interested in the trades
Speaker 4: and as opposed as going through four years of school
Speaker 4: and you've got a job here at least with the
Speaker 4: folks at Southern Ohio. In about ten weeks, you get
Speaker 4: a job that pays forty thousand dollars it's going to
Speaker 4: cost you sixty five hundred dollars if you even pay
Speaker 4: for that, because there's a lot of businesses, a lot
Speaker 4: of companies will reimburse you to pay for it. But
Speaker 4: sixty five hundred I did the math in my head, Mike,
Speaker 4: and sixty five hundred dollars that's about what you would
Speaker 4: pay for two, I think four semesters maybe five semesters
Speaker 4: of books at college, just to the books.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So it's a very affordable program. And
Speaker 8: guess what you mentioned. What is the job market in
Speaker 8: the next five years? Okay, Scott. We need about to
Speaker 8: fill about forty five thousand seats in the HVAC industry
Speaker 8: in the next over the next five years.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 8: So that's a pretty good, pretty good amount of job
Speaker 8: market there. So, and what's happening is is a lot
Speaker 8: of the older guys that were in the industry, okay,
Speaker 8: they're getting ready to retire, okay, and we need that
Speaker 8: new wave of the young people to come into the
Speaker 8: industry and pick up where they left off. And listen,
Speaker 8: as you pointed out, this is this is never going
Speaker 8: to be taken over by AI. Okay, Listen, We're always
Speaker 8: gonna need going to have a need to keep yourself
Speaker 8: cool in the summer warm in the winter.
Speaker 6: Of course.
Speaker 8: You know, if you want that cold can of beer
Speaker 8: or cold can of pop, you know it's your local
Speaker 8: seven eleven. Okay, We're there to take to train the
Speaker 8: people to keep that refrigeration goe. So you know, it's
Speaker 8: a great industry. It's just I to be honest with you,
Speaker 8: I don't see any downside to it, Okay from my
Speaker 8: point of view.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but again there's some of the opportunity in
Speaker 3: all the trades to find something you're interested in and HVAC,
Speaker 3: you know, but you can do residentially, you can do commercial,
Speaker 3: depending whether your interests are to and it's in demand.
Speaker 4: And me, let's face it, we're talking about rolling out.
Speaker 4: I mean, Butler County is putting in what a one
Speaker 4: million square foot data center basically i AI's taken over
Speaker 4: Ohio at this point. All of those all those server rooms,
Speaker 4: everything there needs to have refrigeration, needs to be kept
Speaker 4: cool and climate controlled. And so that's just adding to
Speaker 4: more and more demand for you guys.
Speaker 6: Right exactly.
Speaker 8: You know, and I want to go over just one
Speaker 8: more time too and mention this that for the young people.
Speaker 8: We do have this grant money that is available. Okay
Speaker 8: for young people. If you graduated out of high school,
Speaker 8: you've kind of hit a wall. You don't know what
Speaker 8: you're going to do. If you were ninety days okay,
Speaker 8: ninety days before you graduate, up to one year after
Speaker 8: you graduate, there is money there for you to come
Speaker 8: to school.
Speaker 6: You can get up to a.
Speaker 8: Free ride, a partial or a free ride to the
Speaker 8: Charles Forward Foundation.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 8: It's a great grant. And it's also good for those
Speaker 8: veterans that have had a have exhausted or post nine
Speaker 8: eleven benefits. They can't they've run into a wall, they
Speaker 8: don't know what to do, they've exhausted all those We
Speaker 8: have a grant money for those veterans, okay as well
Speaker 8: through the Charles Schward Foundation.
Speaker 4: It's wonderful. There's money out there if you need it.
Speaker 4: It's the program's about sixty five hundred dollars, which is
Speaker 4: a certainly you look at that, Wow, sixty five hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: That's a fraction of what you would pay for higher education.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: This is going to get you work in in about
Speaker 4: ten weeks. If you're good with your hands in your
Speaker 4: mind and you show up and you want to do
Speaker 4: the job. That's a lot of people. One of the
Speaker 4: big issues of course or young folks is transferred to
Speaker 4: and I think you know, speaking for the trades now
Speaker 4: for a long time like that. That's it looks like
Speaker 4: it's trying to turn though. We're trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how to get people to school or classes and and
Speaker 4: also to work. But that's like the big hurdle for
Speaker 4: a lot of folks. We know that that's an issue,
Speaker 4: uh to try and get them from point A to
Speaker 4: point B because generally you know they're coming in with
Speaker 4: a little money. But the good news is, you know,
Speaker 4: once you get through this program, you're talking about making
Speaker 4: some significant coin uh in as long as you want
Speaker 4: to work and keep working, especially the overtime. As you said,
Speaker 4: within five years you're making an easy six figures.
Speaker 9: Yeah, easily. You know.
Speaker 8: It's it's a great it's this this has changed so
Speaker 8: much as industry is rapidly changing. Okay, and listen, you
Speaker 8: hit to be brought up to speed on all the
Speaker 8: new stuff.
Speaker 6: That doctor. It's not like it was.
Speaker 3: Day well not not even I gotta I have a buddy,
Speaker 3: buddy of mine and he retired, I think not even
Speaker 3: eight maybe eight or nine years ago, started out, ran
Speaker 3: his own company, retired and literally came up, you know,
Speaker 3: by his bootstraps and started his own own business and
Speaker 3: HVAC Tech. Re're tired.
Speaker 4: And I was asking, he goes, you know what it's
Speaker 4: It's funny something broke in my house and looking at
Speaker 4: I was like, it's changed so much in the last
Speaker 4: five years. I had to call someone in to look
Speaker 4: at it. Because I unless you stay on top of
Speaker 4: the training. But that's true with a lot of these
Speaker 4: high tech fields. It's not just hey, we're slapping a
Speaker 4: furnace in it. Continue to education is huge.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that's a great thing about about our school too,
Speaker 8: and the course that we have. We have, you know,
Speaker 8: the best trainers in the best lab so are. The
Speaker 8: way we do is we're basically we were going and
Speaker 8: we do a class and what they've learned in that
Speaker 8: power point in that class, they immediately go back and
Speaker 8: start applying that hands on right, okay, effectively hands on
Speaker 8: in the lab. And we've got a state of the
Speaker 8: art lab, all the latest equipment that's out there, the
Speaker 8: latest and the greatest stuff. We have it here at
Speaker 8: Southern Ohio Tech.
Speaker 4: All right, how do your students Some of them may
Speaker 4: also have a day job too, or they have families.
Speaker 4: And how tough is that the balance if you're going
Speaker 4: to school and doing this ten week class.
Speaker 8: Well, this is a great thing about it. We have
Speaker 8: a morning class, okay, which is from nine in the
Speaker 8: morning till two in the afternoon. War if you need
Speaker 8: an evening class, we have an evening class that is
Speaker 8: five till ten o'clock, okay, And that's four days a week,
Speaker 8: Monday through Monday through Thursday. And it's five hours of
Speaker 8: classes or five hours ten weeks, two hundred hours. So
Speaker 8: we have morning classes and evening classes.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's pretty easy. I mean you squeeze five hours
Speaker 4: and then the work the evenings or mornings.
Speaker 3: You're good to go.
Speaker 4: So I know you have a class, you've got another
Speaker 4: class starting when on the when's the next class startup?
Speaker 8: Our next class is actually starting on the I believe
Speaker 8: it's December the sixth. So all you people out here
Speaker 8: just call Southern Ohio Tech and answer Diana. She'll guide
Speaker 8: you through the whole process.
Speaker 3: Good, that's how many how many students do you have
Speaker 3: in each class.
Speaker 8: Actually, we keep our classes small. We keep them down
Speaker 8: to eight students per class, okay, and that's so we
Speaker 8: can have that one on one with the instructor, which
Speaker 8: is so important because this is an accelerated class. So
Speaker 8: we hit to have that one on one with your
Speaker 8: instructors so they get through this accelerated class. But it
Speaker 8: works out great for us. And listen, we've graduated over
Speaker 8: most four hundred students over the past six years and
Speaker 8: they're all out there working and I can just tell
Speaker 8: you success story, edeter success.
Speaker 4: That's awesome, that's fantastic, And then you can write your
Speaker 4: own ticket in life, which is the best if you're
Speaker 4: working for you ultimately. I think that's a goal for
Speaker 4: a lot of people. My Trible is the president of
Speaker 4: Southern Ohio Technical Institute at s O t I so
Speaker 4: D dot HVAC dot com for more and classes are
Speaker 4: starting up on December sixth. So if you're going, wow,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't see myself working in fast food
Speaker 4: the rest of my life or you know, making minimum
Speaker 4: and I may get my job may go away. Maybe
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to school. I'm not a good student,
Speaker 4: or maybe I am a good student going I don't
Speaker 4: know what to do, but I know I don't want
Speaker 4: to spend all that money on something on the degree
Speaker 4: program that may not ever pay me back. This is
Speaker 4: a great alternative to it. And parents, mom and dad,
Speaker 4: you should not be looking down on your nose at this.
Speaker 4: This is a that's a wonderful job, can change your
Speaker 4: life and put you on the right trajectory to be
Speaker 4: self sufficient.
Speaker 3: Mike, all the best, Thanks for jumping on this morning.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Good luck.
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you, Scott, you sir, take care and.
Speaker 4: News on the way in just minutes. Here it's a
Speaker 4: Scott's Loan show on this Friday morning. And when we
Speaker 4: return on the Big one seven hundred WLW. We also
Speaker 4: have a lot of sports going on this weekend. We
Speaker 4: got the Bearcats in Utah at Utah ten ten to
Speaker 4: fifteen kick and of course right before the bye, last
Speaker 4: game before the bye, Chicago's in town.
Speaker 3: Who the hell is our quarterback? That's a question. Austin
Speaker 3: has the answers next on seven hundred WWT.
Speaker 12: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: It is game day almost kind of sooner. You got
Speaker 3: the bear Cats tomorrow night, we FC and Action Sunday
Speaker 3: and of course the Bengals. I'm here for it all.
Speaker 3: He's here for all of it because our buddy Austin
Speaker 3: Elmore from ESPN fifteen thirty at noon today. How are
Speaker 3: you what up, Scott? How are you tell me?
Speaker 4: You tell me what's going on? How good you feeling
Speaker 4: about Sunday? I'm scale of one to ten, one being
Speaker 4: the worst, ten being it's a lock, it's a win.
Speaker 4: Where do you stand?
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say negative two hundred and seventy six. Two
Speaker 13: hundred and seventy six. Probably that number stands for how
Speaker 13: many rushing yards the Bears are probably gonna have against
Speaker 13: the Bank.
Speaker 4: And I'm still taking the under in that bet. By
Speaker 4: the way, Yeah, because it's yeah, where do we begin?
Speaker 4: It just begins ends with defense, Like we can talk
Speaker 4: till we're blowing in the face. Whether it's Flack, will
Speaker 4: apply Flock that they got a fighting chance? Right, it's
Speaker 4: who has the ball lasts probably at that point. But
Speaker 4: if it's Jake Browning, yeah, I don't know how they went.
Speaker 13: You go ahead and pack it up, start booking your
Speaker 13: vacations for the second week of January and go somewhere warm.
Speaker 13: But yeah, I mean that's That's pretty much what it's
Speaker 13: come down to. And they are at least watchable with
Speaker 13: Joe Flacco. They weren't watchable with Jake Browning. You know,
Speaker 13: one of the talking points this week on our station
Speaker 13: down the Hall has been, you know, we talk about
Speaker 13: all the things Joe Burrow might be able to learn
Speaker 13: from Jake Browning or from Joe Flacco. But has Jake
Speaker 13: Browning learned anything from Joe Flacco over this last few weeks,
Speaker 13: and hopefully he has in the event that he has
Speaker 13: to play, whether it's Sunday or any other time.
Speaker 4: What are you going to learn from Joe Flacco that
Speaker 4: you learn from Joe Burrow. I mean, again, you can watch,
Speaker 4: you can study as much as you want.
Speaker 3: But you have to do it. And it's for him.
Speaker 4: It's not the physical because he was fine two years ago.
Speaker 4: It's maybe the two years, but also what's between his head.
Speaker 4: There's no cure for that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, And I do think that that maybe that's actually
Speaker 13: where Flacco could be helpful, because Joe Burrow almost has
Speaker 13: this superhuman ability to process, right, Joe Flacco is this
Speaker 13: forty year old dad like figure that can maybe explain
Speaker 13: things in a different way or provide a different perspective
Speaker 13: or just there's something that clicks about that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 13: I don't know his relationship with Jake Outing. I don't
Speaker 13: know what those meetings look like, but I think it
Speaker 13: would be, you know, possible that Browning picked up on something.
Speaker 13: But either way, nobody feels good about their chances with
Speaker 13: Jake Browning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean from top to bottom though outside
Speaker 4: who the quarterback is, the offensive line is doing their job.
Speaker 4: They're not just allowing him time to throw the ball.
Speaker 4: They're actually getting a gap for Chase brown to run
Speaker 4: through and put a big yards. And I would include
Speaker 4: in their sama JP Ryan is playing great. No fan
Speaker 4: is playing great. The one outlier there I think is
Speaker 4: Yoshi vas who's highly questionable. But other than that, top
Speaker 4: to bottom looks pretty solid. Even the I said, the
Speaker 4: line as a unit is playing much better. Yeah, offensively.
Speaker 13: When it comes to the run game, they were the
Speaker 13: best run game in the NFL in the month of
Speaker 13: October and it wasn't really close, which is kind of
Speaker 13: amazing considering where this team was at. I mean, they're
Speaker 13: still thirty first in the NFL and run, but again,
Speaker 13: that speaks to how bad they were in the month
Speaker 13: of September. They totally flipped that script to be one
Speaker 13: of the best, if not the best, run games in
Speaker 13: the month of October. Can they keep that going? I
Speaker 13: think it's interesting too, does that exist without the presence
Speaker 13: of Joe Flacco. So if Jake Browning has to play
Speaker 13: on Sunday, are they still going to be that effective
Speaker 13: in the run game? That I think is an interesting
Speaker 13: wrinkle in the whole thing. But You're right, offensive line
Speaker 13: feels like they're trending in the right direction, run game
Speaker 13: trending in the right direction. I almost think for a
Speaker 13: game like Sunday, Zach Taylor has to really be conscious
Speaker 13: of how much he's running the ball and controlling the
Speaker 13: clock because you want to play complimentary football, and the
Speaker 13: Bengals defense is so unbelievably bad that you might have
Speaker 13: to change the way you call the game offensively to
Speaker 13: keep your defense off the field.
Speaker 4: And what's going to help in that tremendously is the
Speaker 4: fact that the Bears come into this game absolutely struggling
Speaker 4: in run defense. I think they're the six month rushing
Speaker 4: guards allowed in the league. They are averaging like five
Speaker 4: point three a carry. Great for Chase Brown great for
Speaker 4: the line. Great to take that pressure off of prisonable
Speaker 4: Jake Browning. You still have to throw the ball though,
Speaker 4: you can't just be one dimensional. But still if you
Speaker 4: look at that as a Bengals fan, going do we
Speaker 4: have a puncher's chance in this one? But that's the offense, right,
Speaker 4: We're back to this defense Austin. I saw this the
Speaker 4: twenty twelve Saints, notoriously the worst defense as far as
Speaker 4: yards allowed. They gave up over seven thousand yards this year. Today,
Speaker 4: the Bengals in twenty twenty five through seven games, thirty
Speaker 4: two to sixty three is what they've gone up. If
Speaker 4: you look at those numbers, they are on pace to
Speaker 4: be very close to what the Saints did in twenty
Speaker 4: twelve at all time worst runs. A lot of defense, yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's not a surprise. I mean, the way that
Speaker 4: this team is playing, the lack of development, the inability
Speaker 4: to rush the passer. Now, with Trey Hendrickson being heard,
Speaker 4: I assume he's not going to play on Sunday. Logan
Speaker 4: Wilson's banged up as well, which is one of your
Speaker 4: better run defenders when he's in the game. I don't
Speaker 4: know where they go from here. I mean think back
Speaker 4: to and I understand you use the Saints maybe as
Speaker 4: the ultimate example there, But back to the last twenty
Speaker 4: five years and how many bad Bengals defenses that we
Speaker 4: said I always reference. The twenty nineteen Bengals defense is
Speaker 4: the worst defensive unit I've ever watched play football.
Speaker 13: Well, how about this. This is a stat from Paul
Speaker 13: Dayner Junior. It is the worst first eight games of
Speaker 13: any Cincinnati defense since two thousand.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 13: The twenty twenty five Bengals defense is dead last in
Speaker 13: total points allowed, points allowed per drive, defensive success percentage,
Speaker 13: expected points per play, and a touchdowns lout and touchdowns
Speaker 13: allowed per drive. The twenty twenty five Bengals. If you
Speaker 13: think there's multiple team two and three and four win
Speaker 13: teams in that twenty five years, this is the worst one.
Speaker 4: That's hard to fat That is really hard to believe.
Speaker 4: Isn't that considering the talent you have an offense? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean back then they didn't have that kind of
Speaker 4: talent on offense either. Yeah, they're bad on offense too.
Speaker 4: Really pretty good on offense now, great when Joe Burrows
Speaker 4: in there. Pretty good when it's Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: Not so good. When it's browning, but all in all
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it just begs the question where exactly do
Speaker 13: they go from here, because it doesn't feel like they're
Speaker 13: anywhere close to figuring it out. I mean, Miles Murphy
Speaker 13: is nowhere close. Now they're probably gonna get Cedric Johnson back,
Speaker 13: who was a draft pick a year ago and actually
Speaker 13: played pretty good over the last five games of last
Speaker 13: sear It hasn't played yet this year, so maybe that
Speaker 13: can give them a little bit of juice. Rushing the passerine.
Speaker 13: Jamar Chase still has more tackles this year than Sjamar Stewart,
Speaker 13: which is hard to fath him again. Trey Hendrickson is hurt,
Speaker 13: Logan Wilson is hurt. The linebackers, the young rookie linebackers.
Speaker 13: When you watch the film against the Jets, that's some
Speaker 13: of the most embarrassing film you'll ever see, getting confused,
Speaker 13: running the wrong direction.
Speaker 3: Just look like he was taking plays off, taken from
Speaker 3: another planet and dropped on the football field. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was embarrassing. Embarrassing. I will say this though.
Speaker 4: You got Chicago team and Caleb Williams are quarterback that
Speaker 4: has the one of the longest release times in the
Speaker 4: National Football League well over three seconds, which is an eternity, right,
Speaker 4: you measure that with a calendar in the NFL. Uh,
Speaker 4: So he's got time, he's the pogey, has been sacked,
Speaker 4: I think, and then they got the quarterback like twelve
Speaker 4: times this year. So if this is if there's a
Speaker 4: game where shamar Stow, it's gonna have time and it's
Speaker 4: gonna slow down to figure out be able to get
Speaker 4: to the quarterback.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be against the Bears. You would think.
Speaker 13: I would not think that because if he's holding onto
Speaker 13: the ball that long, then I mean obviously they haven't
Speaker 13: had an issue getting protecting him anyways.
Speaker 4: Right, What I'm saying is it gives you more time
Speaker 4: to be able to figure I mean, I think you're
Speaker 4: a high draft pick.
Speaker 3: You should be able to solve that.
Speaker 13: I would say that. It just means they're going to
Speaker 13: carve up the Bengals secondary. See, you're not always glass
Speaker 13: half full. There's nothing to you want another stat I
Speaker 13: got another stack, you know, stick give me uplifting up
Speaker 13: against the Jets last week?
Speaker 3: All right, Huh.
Speaker 13: The Jets offensive line ranked dead last in the NFL,
Speaker 13: and pressure percentage allowed, pressures per game and sacks per game.
Speaker 13: The Bengals had zero sacks and one quarterback hit and
Speaker 13: it came from a blitz from Cam Taylor Britt. The
Speaker 13: Jets had the worst offensive line in the National Football League,
Speaker 13: and that's all the Bengals can manage down and they
Speaker 13: blitz twenty five percent of the time. A quarter of
Speaker 13: the snaps they blitzed, and that's all they could get.
Speaker 13: So it doesn't matter if Caleb Williams holds onto the ball,
Speaker 13: they aren't getting to him. Yeah, but if that really
Speaker 13: threw off turn me off.
Speaker 3: I mean, I kind of knew that, but I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to I'm trying to put a spin where it's not.
Speaker 13: It's not completely there is no spin. There is no hope.
Speaker 13: No defensively, there's no hope. And if Hendrickson doesn't play, hell, no,
Speaker 13: there's I don't think it's gonna play. Ye don't believe
Speaker 13: pass by.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there is no defensive if you have Flacco
Speaker 3: in there, it could get down to shut out where
Speaker 3: they get the last possession, Austin, look at me, you
Speaker 3: get the last possession. Look at me, get the last possession,
Speaker 3: and they win like with three seconds.
Speaker 13: Sure, that's what they did against Yeah, that's what they
Speaker 13: were trying to do against these That's all.
Speaker 3: That's the path. Just hold on.
Speaker 13: That's the game they have to play. Can we, please,
Speaker 13: Dear God get the ball last and maybe we'll have
Speaker 13: a chance. And then maybe Zach Taylor will pissed down
Speaker 13: his leg again like he did Sunday against the Jets.
Speaker 13: That could very well be because that's the thing, that's
Speaker 13: who this team is. So I got him winning by three.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, man, go ahead?
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 13: In two thousand, no Joe Flacco, no hope. In two
Speaker 13: thousand and nine, the Bengals were four and two and
Speaker 13: hosting the Chicago Bears. All right, it was the Cedric
Speaker 13: Benson revenge game. The Bengals ran all over him and
Speaker 13: beat him forty five to ten, one of the best
Speaker 13: games in Bengals history for Carson Palmer and Chad Johnson.
Speaker 13: Chris Henry caught a touchdown in that game. I think
Speaker 13: the score could be similar in favor of Chicago this week. Really,
Speaker 13: that forty five to ten type of thing. Embarrassing another
Speaker 13: embarrassing loss. Yeah, what's the line that it's only like
Speaker 13: two and a half.
Speaker 3: I think two and a half. I don't understand that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of putting money on the Bears on that one.
Speaker 3: And I mean I do think you're right.
Speaker 13: Like if with Joe Flacco there is a path for
Speaker 13: them to offensively it works, sure and figure it out. Sure, However,
Speaker 13: no Jo Fla. You have to know, No Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 13: You have to be able to score forty to fifty points.
Speaker 13: That's hard to do. It requires near perfection offensively. No Joe,
Speaker 13: no Trey, no chance. That's exactly exactly right, Zach. Zach
Speaker 13: Taylor said this week that he had a one on
Speaker 13: one meeting with Joe Burrow. The amount of money I
Speaker 13: would pay to hear that conversation and what Burrow has
Speaker 13: to say about walking with a smirk and probably how
Speaker 13: are you doing? Yeah, what are you gonna say? I mean,
Speaker 13: they just kind of sit there in silence. I look
Speaker 13: at each other.
Speaker 4: I asked the Horde about this too, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: when you get guys like Jamar Chase chirping a little bit,
Speaker 4: like a little bit at the defense right after the game,
Speaker 4: and how long before that's snowballs?
Speaker 6: Huh?
Speaker 3: Right, you start losing some of those guys like this
Speaker 3: is stupid. I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 13: You already had Logan Wilson, and then last night McKinley
Speaker 13: Jackson requested a trade. Gino Stone said that, and Jamar
Speaker 13: Chase said he sought out Gino Stone and wanted to
Speaker 13: talk to him about this defensive players only meeting, and
Speaker 13: those two, you know, kind of leaders on each side
Speaker 13: of the ball hashed it out themselves. I really appreciate
Speaker 13: Jamar Chase leaning into the leadership role that he has
Speaker 13: and being the guy that speaks up and being honest
Speaker 13: and transparent of all that. And Jamar said, when Joe
Speaker 13: is hurt, everybody looks to me, and he this year,
Speaker 13: first year being a captain, I think has done a
Speaker 13: marvelous job of stepping up and holding people accountable and
Speaker 13: doing the right things as a leader. Nobody on defense
Speaker 13: has done that. You remember Trey Henderson, he wanted to
Speaker 13: be that guy. Where's Trey Hendrickson? He's quiet. Yeah, those guys,
Speaker 13: you know, they voted for Trey because he's an All
Speaker 13: Pro player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the best guy.
Speaker 13: They didn't vote for Trey to be a captain because
Speaker 13: he's a captain and shows leadership abilities. They voted for
Speaker 13: him because oh he's our best player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not the vocal guy yelling at people right correct,
Speaker 3: and from top to bottom, that's the m O with
Speaker 3: this team. It's always been like quiet, uh shucks, kind
Speaker 3: of you know, do your job. And I mean, well,
Speaker 3: I think they use somebody like I mean coaching, back
Speaker 3: to coaching, but there's plenty of players, but like Dan Campbell,
Speaker 3: I mean you just look at Dan Campbell like he's
Speaker 3: gonna when when push comes to shove, he's gonna he's
Speaker 3: gonna make some noise if they're not playing up the satisfaction.
Speaker 13: The entire Lions organization shares the identity of his head coach. Yes,
Speaker 13: and you could say to an extent that the Bengals
Speaker 13: currently feel that way with Zach Taylor, which is this
Speaker 13: kind of aloof quiet, everything's gonna be okay type of thing,
Speaker 13: like Milton from a spec I will say this though,
Speaker 13: like prior to this year, there were guys in the
Speaker 13: leader in the locker room that were leaders, Von Bell,
Speaker 13: Sam Hubbard, Mike Hilton. Those type of players aren't there anymore. Defensively,
Speaker 13: there's no culture. Even lou Ana Rubo is no culture.
Speaker 13: Spoke softlly, but carried a big stick in those rooms.
Speaker 13: And I just don't think it exists right now. And
Speaker 13: again another guy asking for a trade in the days
Speaker 13: after a player's only meeting and after letting go a
Speaker 13: guy like Mike Panell, who was one of those veteran
Speaker 13: dudes who's supposed to be a leader. I just think
Speaker 13: that that side of the ball is a complete and
Speaker 13: total mess.
Speaker 4: I would agree with you there, Joe Flacco versus Jake Browning.
Speaker 4: If Flacco can, if let's say he's hurt, can if
Speaker 4: with his left hand, could he still be better than
Speaker 4: Jake brown.
Speaker 13: Based off the last time we saw Jake Browning plugged us. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 13: got it. Let's look at something a little more positive here.
Speaker 13: You see at Utah, it's a ten to fifteen start
Speaker 13: tomorrow and seventeenth rank Bearcats, twenty fourth ranked Utes. ESPN
Speaker 13: Game Day is going to be out out in Utah.
Speaker 13: Twice this year they face a team from Utah. This
Speaker 13: will be the first one, and they look pretty good.
Speaker 13: Utah does this gonna be? Looks very good and they're
Speaker 13: favored right now by double digits. Now, a big part
Speaker 13: of that is a home night game and all that
Speaker 13: stuff and Evan Pryor the bear Cat running back is
Speaker 13: gonna be out.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a toll task for U see.
Speaker 13: But offensively, if Brita and Soarsby plays the way he's
Speaker 13: been playing, they will have a shot.
Speaker 3: In Absolutely it should be a fun game to watch.
Speaker 3: They all have been fun to watch.
Speaker 4: And of course that Cea on Sundays and can put
Speaker 4: it away in Columbus, which I kind to do.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I get the home thing and you want to see
Speaker 4: him win it at home and that's great, but you
Speaker 4: don't anything can happen again. Time to exercise some demons
Speaker 4: in Columbus. One win all time in the city of
Speaker 4: Columbus for FC Cincinnati. Get it done on Sunday, move
Speaker 4: on to the next run. And they were all over
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Speaker 3: Is all the highest for what should cry out trick
Speaker 3: or treating tonight. We are good for the little ones
Speaker 3: and also for moms and dads who don't need the
Speaker 3: extra sugar but will gladly partake in stealing it's called
Speaker 3: the dad text and taking the Snickers reese Is and
Speaker 3: checking them for razor blades, which isn't a real thing.
Speaker 4: We made that up in order to screw kids over.
Speaker 4: I need to check that looks like there's a needle
Speaker 4: in it, and then you eat the snakers. No, I
Speaker 4: guess there was need there because kids are stupid and
Speaker 4: we need to take advantage of them. Also, with Halloween
Speaker 4: being today, tis the season to talk about ghosts and
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 7: Why not.
Speaker 4: I'm in the holiday spirit myself. And the thing with
Speaker 4: ghost is, man, this is why you got to live
Speaker 4: a really clean or a fairly clean mortal life is
Speaker 4: because you don't want to screw this up and become
Speaker 4: a ghost. Cause when you're walking around with chains on
Speaker 4: and you're going and visiting Scrooge in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night, you don't get any rest. He doesn't get
Speaker 4: any rest. It's a bad looking Optics are bad for everybody.
Speaker 4: It's a real pain of the ass to screw up
Speaker 4: your life, or we gotta be a ghost? Echo Bowtein's
Speaker 4: on the show this morning on seven hundred ww a
Speaker 4: real life ghostbuster, and will teach you how not to
Speaker 4: become a ghost and a trapped soul. I don't think
Speaker 4: I've ever had this subject matter before my show before,
Speaker 4: but I this is the kind of stuff I really
Speaker 4: like to talk about. Echo, good morning.
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 12: Oh my god, good morning. I got to go have
Speaker 12: about sixteen cups of coffee.
Speaker 9: Catch up to you. Well, smoke, it.
Speaker 4: Just comes out, It just comes out. But yeah, I'm busy,
Speaker 4: and when I die, I won't be as busy anymore.
Speaker 4: But when I die, I don't want to be a
Speaker 4: I don't want to be bothering people in the afterlife.
Speaker 4: I bother people enough now you know. I'll be tired.
Speaker 4: Then I just want to I want to rest. How
Speaker 4: do I not become a ghost and bother people?
Speaker 5: Oh? Oh god, you're a riot.
Speaker 12: Okay, let's see now go here's what you do. You
Speaker 12: take care of business while you're here on earth.
Speaker 9: There, okay.
Speaker 12: So the book, which is called How to Live a
Speaker 12: Happily Ever After Life, is about the six main reasons
Speaker 12: that we have discovered why.
Speaker 9: Ghosts choose to be ghosts.
Speaker 12: I mean, when we do a ghost listing job and
Speaker 12: I say week because I'm talking about my brother Michael
Speaker 12: and I.
Speaker 9: We always ask these souls what We always ask them,
Speaker 9: what's your name?
Speaker 5: And why are you here? Okay?
Speaker 4: And that's got you know, it's unfinished business, that's what
Speaker 4: you're saying, because I got something I gotta okay, and
Speaker 4: I think I quite kind of know that, right.
Speaker 3: That's what ghosts do. They hang around, they annoy you
Speaker 3: because that's what ghosts do. They're looking for some closure
Speaker 3: and you got How does a ghost get closure?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 5: God? Wow, you have to work on your beliefs about
Speaker 5: death before you die, because you know it's got Some
Speaker 5: of these souls they don't.
Speaker 9: They don't believe in life after death. So when they die,
Speaker 9: when their soul comes out of their body, they don't
Speaker 9: know what to do.
Speaker 5: They they don't understand what's going on. They don't understand
Speaker 5: why angels are showing up saying, hey, come on with us,
Speaker 5: we'll take you to the other side. It's it's really
Speaker 5: kind of sad. Yeah, I'm thinking about teenage souls that
Speaker 5: I've met that say when we say why.
Speaker 9: Are you here? Why don't you go to the other side. Oh,
Speaker 9: it's going to be really boring.
Speaker 5: I'm going to get angel wings and then I'm just
Speaker 5: going to have to be serious and me an angel it's.
Speaker 9: Like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: Or another reason is people will say, well, my ex
Speaker 5: wife is over there and I hate her, or my
Speaker 5: ex cousin or my parents, or that they.
Speaker 9: Don't somebody they don't want to run into.
Speaker 5: Is on the other side, and so they think if
Speaker 5: they go there, they're going to run.
Speaker 9: Into them right away.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what's got it's more like ghost
Speaker 5: counseling than ghost busting.
Speaker 4: Oh it's Heaven's kind of a big place, isn't there room.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not going to be on top of these.
Speaker 4: If there's a jerk, you just avoid them, you know,
Speaker 4: you pick a different cloud.
Speaker 9: I know, honey. But see, that's the point is people
Speaker 9: don't think about it.
Speaker 5: They they you know, hear from other people what they
Speaker 5: believe about life after death, and so they think, okay, well,
Speaker 5: as soon as I get to have an I'm on
Speaker 5: a run into Susie and this one that both that
Speaker 5: I met. She said, that her boyfriend killed her and
Speaker 5: then he committed suicide. And she said, I don't want
Speaker 5: to go anywhere where he is. And I said to her, Sherry,
Speaker 5: heaven is a really big place, and I said, chances
Speaker 5: of you running into this guy? I said, you know,
Speaker 5: when you get there, you can tell people you don't
Speaker 5: want to see.
Speaker 9: This guy, you don't want to talk to this guy.
Speaker 5: And it's so interesting to watch their expressions because they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I never.
Speaker 8: Thought about that, isn't there Heaven.
Speaker 4: There's got to be some police for I mean, you
Speaker 4: get a restraining order and there are like a dead
Speaker 4: judge that can do that, you know.
Speaker 9: Scott, I've never given that any thought.
Speaker 3: Sure, there's got to be some sort of legal recourse
Speaker 3: in heaven. You know, it's not just a free for
Speaker 3: all do whatever you want. There's got to be some rules.
Speaker 3: And if there's rules, of got the authority to enforce
Speaker 3: the rules.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, if you go to God or whatever,
Speaker 4: you could get he's like the Supreme Court and then
Speaker 4: the Apostle everybody else below him.
Speaker 3: Those are like your appellate courts and down away.
Speaker 9: I think you should write a book.
Speaker 5: I think you should write a book on this because
Speaker 5: you just said things to me that I've never even
Speaker 5: thought about it.
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't know how to read anyway.
Speaker 4: It's echo Botwin on the show this morning on seven
Speaker 4: hundred Wow, how to be a live, a happily ever
Speaker 4: after life stories are trapped souls on to because basically
Speaker 4: not how to be how to not become a ghost
Speaker 4: out there bothering people, dragon change.
Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of work being a ghost
Speaker 3: haunting people, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yes it can be, I mean, but you know, Okay,
Speaker 5: so some of them they just start making the noises
Speaker 5: and playing with the lights and the computers and TVs
Speaker 5: because they're bored and they.
Speaker 9: Want some attention.
Speaker 5: Others are kind of jerks when they were living, and
Speaker 5: so they're they're loving this here.
Speaker 3: You're an ahole in life, You're an ahole and perfect yeah, yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, so it really is, you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: we all end up there, and it's a good idea
Speaker 5: to give us some thought before you go, because I
Speaker 5: have seen souls who when they come out of their body,
Speaker 5: they're just like, I don't know what to do. I
Speaker 5: don't know, you know what the number one reason is
Speaker 5: these souls tell us they are afraid if they go
Speaker 5: to heaven they're going to get sent to hell.
Speaker 4: Oh says oh, okay, Yeah, well it's like it's kind
Speaker 4: of like fomo, right is it?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'd really like to go if it's
Speaker 4: everything they promise, But I gotta feel I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna apply, I'm gonna sit there, I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: all this fill off the paperwork, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 4: get bounced and I don't I'm as well, purgatory is
Speaker 4: not so bad.
Speaker 3: Just hanging around being a ghost as isn't so bad.
Speaker 9: Okay, Scott, really, I promise you don't have to still
Speaker 9: out paperwork when you get there.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Everything's a bureaucracy boat, but I couldn't disagree with Himore.
Speaker 4: I guarantee there's paperwork.
Speaker 7: You.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you got a brand id. It's a real thing.
Speaker 3: Waiting in lines. Tell me there's no line to get
Speaker 3: in the head. There's got to be a line.
Speaker 9: I mean, Heaven is huge. It's like saying there's gotta
Speaker 9: be a line to get to Earth. No is there.
Speaker 9: It's all over the place.
Speaker 3: Somebody somebody's checking you in right. It's not a new
Speaker 3: business models. It's not like, oh, we've got an app
Speaker 3: and you do all. You're checking on time and I
Speaker 3: don't care. This is old school. I gotta go wait
Speaker 3: in a lot. I talk to a guy and then
Speaker 3: he's late because he's on his break, and then I'm
Speaker 3: waiting for somebody else, and it's not you know, AI
Speaker 3: isn't going to solve this thing I got. I'm still literally,
Speaker 3: I got a pen and a clipboard in the waiting
Speaker 3: room like a doctor's office, and I'm filling stuff out.
Speaker 3: There's there's a line.
Speaker 9: Believe believe me.
Speaker 5: It's very organized, very organized. People know when you get there.
Speaker 5: People know ahead of time when we're dying, our deceased
Speaker 5: loved ones and our relatives, they know, oftentimes they're there
Speaker 5: waiting for us, or oftentimes when we are in our
Speaker 5: dying process, they are here with us on this side,
Speaker 5: so that when our soul comes out of the body.
Speaker 9: Oh there's mom, there's dad.
Speaker 5: There's grandpa, there's grandma. There's my dog Charlie.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, it's a pretty cool system, the way it works.
Speaker 4: How do they know what kind of notification do they
Speaker 4: get Did it pop up on their phone to get
Speaker 4: an email?
Speaker 3: What happens?
Speaker 7: They?
Speaker 3: How do they know I'm dying? How would they know?
Speaker 9: They?
Speaker 5: Okay, so before you pass away, your soul is communicating
Speaker 5: with people on the other side. Okay, your soul knows
Speaker 5: that your death is coming. You're not conscious of it,
Speaker 5: but your soul is communicating with the people on the
Speaker 5: other side. And there are greets had their really nice
Speaker 5: souls that welcome, welcome you home. Really, it's a really
Speaker 5: cool system of welcoming your soul back home.
Speaker 9: Even you know. I was just reading a story.
Speaker 5: Last night about a lady who committed suicide and she
Speaker 5: was so afraid that she wasn't going to get into heaven.
Speaker 5: And people that commit suicide they go into heaven just
Speaker 5: like everybody does.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a sin. I thought that was
Speaker 3: I thought that was a no go. I thought that's
Speaker 3: a bad one.
Speaker 5: None, that's just religion's perspective. But no, Yeah, the people
Speaker 5: that I've communicated with have all said no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: God doesn't No, God's not like that, that angry, vengeful,
Speaker 5: jealous God. Now that doesn't exist. And if somebody is
Speaker 5: hurting that to take their life. Of course, they're welcomed
Speaker 5: back home. So it's a different.
Speaker 9: System at least what most of us.
Speaker 4: Have been taught, you know, right Echobodin's on the show
Speaker 4: this morning, how to live a happy, happily ever after
Speaker 4: life stories of trap soles on to become one basically
Speaker 4: not how to become a ghost, and that is closing
Speaker 4: a business before you pass away, making sure that there's
Speaker 4: no loose ends left in your light. And how do
Speaker 4: you convert someone who's well, let me back up a second,
Speaker 4: how the hell do you know all this stuff?
Speaker 3: What makes you an expert on the afterlife?
Speaker 6: How do you know this is?
Speaker 5: I have psychic abilities, and so I have been I
Speaker 5: don't believe me. I have been slowly learning about all
Speaker 5: of this for the last fifty four years, and I
Speaker 5: just have these experiences, you know, when someone passes, I'm
Speaker 5: able to communicate with their soul and they tell me
Speaker 5: about heaven. I've had three friends and the last year
Speaker 5: died that have come back and said, oh my, you
Speaker 5: know this is happening.
Speaker 9: That's happening.
Speaker 5: It's It's been a fun and very interesting experience because
Speaker 5: I've learned things that we aren't taught in religion. And
Speaker 5: that's another reason why I thought, you know, I need
Speaker 5: to write this book, because people have a lot of
Speaker 5: misconceptions about death. A lot of people are so afraid
Speaker 5: to die, and there's you know what, Scott, it seems like,
Speaker 5: at least from what I've seen and what I've heard
Speaker 5: from people, it's probably the easiest thing we'll ever do,
Speaker 5: is when we finally let go of.
Speaker 9: The body and we just move on to the other side.
Speaker 5: And it is gosh, Scott, the pictures I've seen.
Speaker 9: Of the other side are absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 3: And can you send some to me that? Would you?
Speaker 3: How do you get the pictures? Are they dead? Grammar?
Speaker 3: Fatal book? Is it like the d web? I?
Speaker 5: Oh god, Oh my god.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 5: I have what's called clairvoyance, which means that you get visions.
Speaker 5: I get visions in my mind and I communicate with
Speaker 5: spirit in my mind. They think to me, that's how
Speaker 5: they commun So, honey, it's just been a matter of
Speaker 5: kind of putting together a big jupa saw puzzle of
Speaker 5: Oh that, Oh now I understand that picture. Oh now
Speaker 5: I understand what this person meant.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been it's been a.
Speaker 5: Long journey, but very interesting and the other thing that's
Speaker 5: cool ist. I just I keep learning, you know. It
Speaker 5: isn't like, oh my god, got I would not claim
Speaker 5: to be an expert on this stuff. I am just
Speaker 5: passing on what I've learned so far.
Speaker 3: I've talked to other folks like yourself. It's the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's like, it's just you're like a conduit, you know,
Speaker 4: And I think there's some consistency there and the like.
Speaker 4: But okay, So I think the question most people have
Speaker 4: is what is the absolute echo? What is the absolute
Speaker 4: bare minimum? Bare minimum I need to be able to
Speaker 4: get into heaven? What what's like the what is this
Speaker 4: I just need to get It's like passing the class, right,
Speaker 4: All I need to do is get that d.
Speaker 9: Honey, there's no.
Speaker 3: Wait, man, I could go Are you saying I could
Speaker 3: go like murder someone and still get into heaven. That
Speaker 3: doesn't seem right.
Speaker 5: Yes, I know it doesn't seem right. But I mean
Speaker 5: that that's going to involve karma. So what you do
Speaker 5: to others, you will experience yourself. It all balances out,
Speaker 5: It all has.
Speaker 9: To balance out.
Speaker 5: And so what we it's the golden rule of what
Speaker 5: we do unto others comes back onto us and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no there's no Hell. Then we got that wrong.
Speaker 5: The Jews have told me there is no such place
Speaker 5: as hell because God would never create a place like that.
Speaker 9: But it doesn't mean that we all get to.
Speaker 5: Be terrible people and then go on to the other
Speaker 5: side because we bring we bring that guilt with us,
Speaker 5: we bring that shame.
Speaker 11: That ugh.
Speaker 5: I mean, I've seen some souls who and that's what
Speaker 5: I mean when I ask these ghosts, Okay, why don't.
Speaker 9: You go to the other side? Yeah, oh god, there's
Speaker 9: no way.
Speaker 5: There's no way I could. I'm going to get sent
Speaker 5: to Hell for sure. They'll go there and they'll have
Speaker 5: to work through all the crap that they did to people.
Speaker 4: So it's like you go, it's like the minor leagues
Speaker 4: of heaven. Basically, you sent down like low A, and
Speaker 4: then you work on your game until you build up.
Speaker 4: Maybe you get promoted to Triple A and eventually make
Speaker 4: the big league Heaven club kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, there are different levels I've seen
Speaker 5: that also different levels in heavens, and so you know,
Speaker 5: if you're murdering.
Speaker 9: People, you are, boy, you're at the bottom of the wrong.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're in heaven.
Speaker 9: But you know what's got It's kind of like.
Speaker 5: People that commit these kind of crimes against other people
Speaker 5: or animals, they take all that guilt with them and
Speaker 5: they have to work it out some way.
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: What's that part of having called where it's like the
Speaker 4: low end, the you know, the the wrong side is
Speaker 4: what do you call it? Is it called Pittsburgh there too?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: There you go. No, it's just when you're there, you're kind,
Speaker 5: you're it's like you're certain level soul. But you know what,
Speaker 5: we've got it here. I mean, think about it. We've
Speaker 5: got old souls here, young souls here. The young souls
Speaker 5: are the it's in the gangs, people that are hurting
Speaker 5: other people. Then we've got you know, older souls and
Speaker 5: they're the ones trying to help the younger souls.
Speaker 9: And oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Well it really is. It is fascinating. We got to
Speaker 3: talk in depth. Maybe some other time. I'd love to
Speaker 3: have you back.
Speaker 9: Echo Okay, sweet Sie, just let me know.
Speaker 3: Echo Bodine, who is.
Speaker 4: Not only clairvoyant but also how to live a happily
Speaker 4: ever after life, stories of trap souls and how not
Speaker 4: to become one, which your tips to sounds to me
Speaker 4: like you're pretty golden here just by you. It's like, man,
Speaker 4: I'm just showing up and I get into heaven. I
Speaker 4: don't have to do anything good. This is pretty sweet.
Speaker 4: I gotta get going because I got a crime spree.
Speaker 3: To get to. Oh my god, Okay, you go, I
Speaker 3: got some banks for rob. I'll see you later. Echo
Speaker 3: now I get you some twenties. You seem like a
Speaker 3: good kid over there. And first for me, I've lived
Speaker 3: in a city where crime has looked at favorable by
Speaker 3: this administration. Guy, you promise that to do it again.
Speaker 3: You're fine, You're fine. We all get to go to
Speaker 3: everyone gets a participation ribbon. Apparently, why are we fighting it?
Speaker 3: Why are we fighting it? Great?
Speaker 4: Uh converse. I try to have her on every year
Speaker 4: at Go Bodine. How not to become a ghost simply
Speaker 4: because it's Halloween, and uh that's kind of ghost story.
Speaker 4: See Italian right there, and they all heavy lift. We've
Speaker 4: got lots of serious stuff going on the world. It's
Speaker 4: Friday morning, and on top of that, it's Halloween. Let's
Speaker 4: just enjoy things at least for today. Anyway, we'll reset
Speaker 4: back on Monday. Here Scott Sloan.
Speaker 3: I'm the whole the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WWT Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: The weekends coming up and you need to make the
Speaker 3: most advent. Where do you go and what to do?
Speaker 10: She has the tips and inside to help you make
Speaker 10: it a super weekend, So listen up. Lisa is the
Speaker 10: Local Loop with Ali Martin on seven hundred WLW yay.
Speaker 3: I love that because it means the weekend is like
Speaker 3: literally inches away here where let's look, we're first in
Speaker 3: goal right now. Allie Martin is here and she brought
Speaker 3: a fan. Ali.
Speaker 7: How are you?
Speaker 11: I am great?
Speaker 3: How are you? I'm doing well.
Speaker 4: Miranda McGee is here with American Legacy Tourists and since
Speaker 4: he's token Australian.
Speaker 3: Cinly am today our DEI appointment on the show.
Speaker 1: This smile, checking that box. You're welcome.
Speaker 3: Say something on Australian.
Speaker 14: Oh you want me to say that ain't a knife,
Speaker 14: this is an ife, try to shrimp.
Speaker 1: On the but I know what you want.
Speaker 3: I will say.
Speaker 4: I was in Australia for two weeks. It was a
Speaker 4: bucket list trip and I was there and I tried
Speaker 4: vegemite and.
Speaker 3: Actually really not that bad. I mean, she just ate
Speaker 3: it straight up, which is horrible. But Vegemite is it's
Speaker 3: really salty. You gotta put a little bit on with
Speaker 3: a lot of butter and a piece of toast. I
Speaker 3: wasn't that bad.
Speaker 14: Look if you can eat Skyline chili your bret, you're
Speaker 14: prepared and vegemit's just the logical. Next time you're please.
Speaker 4: You gotta do the beautiful country. I love Australia. I'm really,
Speaker 4: really really please. So we're gonna to talk. But the
Speaker 4: reason why Miranda is here with Adley this morning is
Speaker 4: because it's Halloween.
Speaker 1: Your costume is great and.
Speaker 3: Thank you gone as an idiot again this year?
Speaker 11: What are you?
Speaker 3: I'm an underachiever. Give me your damn candy. I've lost
Speaker 3: my mind, yes, moron.
Speaker 4: The reason why is she has all these ghost stories,
Speaker 4: and I think it's even scarier when you have someone
Speaker 4: with Australian accents.
Speaker 3: Okay, it softens a bit.
Speaker 11: And Miranda honestly is the best person to tell these
Speaker 11: ghost stories. Yes, because she has an accent, but also
Speaker 11: she is just as scared of them.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I take the ghost stories
Speaker 3: if you had a British accent, like really you know
Speaker 3: to me, that's like, okay, you're like, you know some
Speaker 3: sort of but the Australian accent, I don't know if
Speaker 3: I could take you seriously. You're like your your accents
Speaker 3: like the banjo of spoken word. Very happy.
Speaker 14: Have you ever seen a sca at Australian there, Yeah,
Speaker 14: that's a whole.
Speaker 3: Number freakishly big spiders and problem with a kangar room.
Speaker 14: I was raised with humorus. That's what my dad called them.
Speaker 14: Half human, half kangaroo. It's a little known in fact,
Speaker 14: but the only way you could escape from a humor
Speaker 14: who was to go into the tent, lay down and
Speaker 14: close your eyes and breathe deeply as a.
Speaker 1: Child, which is the way to get us to go
Speaker 1: to therapy. Look them up, go to.
Speaker 3: Bed, or the kangaroo is going to come out from
Speaker 3: in your bed and eat you.
Speaker 14: Those are the vampire kanker.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's that's getting it done. Yes, that's a good
Speaker 3: thought to put a child's head, all right, So let's jump.
Speaker 1: In the beauty behind this, right.
Speaker 11: Miranda has all of these ghost stories and we like
Speaker 11: to talk about what's happening in the city, and we
Speaker 11: just so happen to have a lovely pairing of things
Speaker 11: that are happening in the city, but also ghost stories
Speaker 11: to go along with it. So if you go to
Speaker 11: any of these events that we're talking about, you could
Speaker 11: think of all of the scary things that she's about
Speaker 11: to tell Keen in Australian accent. So it's a party starter. Okay,
Speaker 11: here we go, Miranda. Shall we start with Hibel.
Speaker 1: I'd love to stat with Higbelt. Start with Hibel.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Do you want and tell me what's going on at
Speaker 14: Hibel first? Or should I give the history?
Speaker 11: Let's tell So what's happening at high Ball is they
Speaker 11: have a pop up called the Black Lagoon pop up,
Speaker 11: So it's basically cocktails and coffins, you name it, killer
Speaker 11: cocktails that have everything to do with Halloween. And it's
Speaker 11: only around until November first, so you're gonna want to
Speaker 11: check that out. It's very similar to like, you know
Speaker 11: how the Miracle Bar has the pop up during the holidays.
Speaker 1: This is like that, but for Halloween.
Speaker 6: Sure.
Speaker 1: It's a high Ball near Friendly Market.
Speaker 14: Yeah, which is great because if you want to have
Speaker 14: with the cocktails, because if you want to have spirits
Speaker 14: with spirits, that is where I go at high Ball.
Speaker 14: The building's been there since the early eighteen hundreds, and
Speaker 14: it used to be a candy store and the man
Speaker 14: who ran it, Joseph Hella, he was called the Candy Man.
Speaker 14: He was very well known and over the rong, which
Speaker 14: sounds terrifying, but he was quite a beloved figure. And
Speaker 14: ever since Jacob Trevino and then have been set up
Speaker 14: at high Ball. When you're down in the basement, if
Speaker 14: they look at the cameras, they see, like when they're
Speaker 14: closing up at night, they see figures walking through the
Speaker 14: hole above them. As they're closing up in the back room,
Speaker 14: the party room, they'll hear sounds of a celebration and party.
Speaker 14: But when they go that back there and open the door,
Speaker 14: there's nobody there, and the bar stuff are quite relaxed
Speaker 14: about it. They're like it's a joyous place. I'm like,
Speaker 14: they're not alive, and they're like it's all good.
Speaker 11: They always have candy in a ball on stand. It's
Speaker 11: so weird, your last big bowl of candy.
Speaker 3: And they all got candy that had like a razor
Speaker 3: blade in it. That's how they died. And that's the
Speaker 3: Candyman can horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't you say?
Speaker 11: And tell me the story, or tell all of us
Speaker 11: the story about how Halloween wasn't celebrated on a certain
Speaker 11: day because of.
Speaker 14: That was the candy man, That was the Cincinnati Strangler.
Speaker 1: But do you know thet But.
Speaker 3: Would you get it straight? Here?
Speaker 7: She's still going.
Speaker 3: From a lot of them. There's a lot of trapped
Speaker 3: Sammy Davis Junior going by. I don't know what's going
Speaker 3: on over here? What else you got?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 3: What's this one?
Speaker 7: So?
Speaker 14: The Cincinnati Strangler terrorized the city between late nineteen sixty
Speaker 14: five and sixty six, and he strangled assultant and tragically
Speaker 14: strangled seven women, some with their unclothing, stockings and belts.
Speaker 14: And because of that, Halloween was moved to Sunday afternoon
Speaker 14: for a couple of years in Cincinnati, and some counties
Speaker 14: still celebrated on Sunday because of the Cincinnati strangle from so.
Speaker 4: Awful, they changed. He got single handedly destroyed Halloween.
Speaker 14: I don't think that was the worst thing he did.
Speaker 14: But it's time heels all right, there's a lot more people.
Speaker 14: I would say that that is true.
Speaker 1: That is true.
Speaker 3: If you look wow people, I tend to look at
Speaker 3: the glass. I tend to look at the jugglers half.
Speaker 14: Full the wind pipe.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I did. All right, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: So the string and what what year was that? When
Speaker 3: the late.
Speaker 14: Nineteen sixty five to sixty six, and then the guy
Speaker 14: who was accused of it, I do not think actually
Speaker 14: did it. He did murder someone, but the murder was
Speaker 14: so different than all the other strangler deaths. It's just
Speaker 14: that when this guy got arrested, all the strangler killing stopped,
Speaker 14: and so they literally pinned it on this guy. He
Speaker 14: could still be alive and well and walking on our community.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 3: God, if only dateline were around back then, for even now,
Speaker 3: date line, all right.
Speaker 1: If you couldn't pick up a common theme here.
Speaker 11: There's a lot of death that happens inner city, including
Speaker 11: around the tunnels right Finley Market area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those tunnels have to have stories. Yeah, oh one.
Speaker 14: Hundred in the northern part of over the Rhine, which
Speaker 14: is where Finley Market is. Until the eighteen fifties, there
Speaker 14: were no taxes and no laws. It was like the
Speaker 14: Wild West over there. Some people think it is. I agree,
Speaker 14: I'm like sure, some people still think that's true. I
Speaker 14: always say it's kind of like Australia. So that's why
Speaker 14: it feels sucomfortable in the northern end of over the Ryine.
Speaker 3: But because of that, well, her fault, you're not getting
Speaker 3: a wrap for this. I wasn't even born then, what
Speaker 3: the hell.
Speaker 14: She's been around for a long time, just reinventing us.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 14: So because of that, there's a lot of deaths that
Speaker 14: happened there, a lot of murder that was never resolved,
Speaker 14: it was never reported, never resolved, and because of that,
Speaker 14: spirits can't move on. According to our paranormal team, which
Speaker 14: probably a lot of people died building these eighteen hundreds
Speaker 14: brewery tunnels, and then once the tunnels were constructed, probably
Speaker 14: a lot of people died in the tunnels due to
Speaker 14: a lot of gangster energy and uh and activity we
Speaker 14: had here over the Rye and in Newport. So because
Speaker 14: of that reason, there's all these spirits down there. Ali
Speaker 14: has experienced the first hands one.
Speaker 3: What experience you have there, you could be a good ghost.
Speaker 3: You don't get over stuff easy either, now with the
Speaker 3: spirits grudge.
Speaker 11: Honestly, one of there was one time that we were
Speaker 11: down in the tunnels and the ghosts did not call
Speaker 11: me a very nice name.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I could say it on air. I
Speaker 1: was a little offended, but it didn't stop me from
Speaker 1: going back down.
Speaker 7: Wait.
Speaker 3: Wait, you heard the ghost and taught you.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so actually, do you want to explain what the
Speaker 14: estes method? Y? Yeah, So we use the spirit box.
Speaker 14: These are on our Ultimate Nightmare and Elm Street tours.
Speaker 14: That's what these tours are called. Down in the tunnels,
Speaker 14: and you have a spirit box which basically scans through
Speaker 14: radio stations. The person on the spirit box has noise
Speaker 14: canceling headphones and usually a blow nindfold, so they can't
Speaker 14: All they can see and hear is the radio station scanning,
Speaker 14: and occasional words come out. Now where on the other
Speaker 14: side of this asking questions the person with the headphones
Speaker 14: on cannot hear or we're asking, they just yell out
Speaker 14: the words that or they just say the words that
Speaker 14: come up on the spill, and it's like having a
Speaker 14: conversation with someone. It is very eerie.
Speaker 1: You're on the outside again.
Speaker 14: They cannot hear you, and we'll ask who's speaking to us,
Speaker 14: like Ali will be like Abigail or something like it.
Speaker 1: Against you can't hear a name, yeah, or like where
Speaker 1: do you want us to go?
Speaker 9: And that day.
Speaker 11: And in addition to that element of equipment, have the
Speaker 11: copper rods? Have you seen those where you can be
Speaker 11: holding the copper rods, and you also ask questions, you know,
Speaker 11: across the rods, uncross the rods, yes or no, type questions,
Speaker 11: point in certain directions, point to certain people. When you're
Speaker 11: down in those tunnels enough times, they definitely start to recognize.
Speaker 1: And one of the ghosts called me an s.
Speaker 7: L u T.
Speaker 11: And then we're like, okay, well, point at the person
Speaker 11: who you're calling that, and they pointed.
Speaker 3: To me, she's just swinging it air.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 14: It was really fast too. It didn't even hesitate.
Speaker 1: It didn't hesitate.
Speaker 11: They're probably very confused by the like, who is this
Speaker 11: giraffe in overalls?
Speaker 1: We've not seen this at our time?
Speaker 3: Its insane? Your sure, okay, so man, is it a
Speaker 3: bit is there like Kyle's in the back room of
Speaker 3: the transit, like over the microphone.
Speaker 14: We are incredibly pure. We have a paranormal team and
Speaker 14: they are incredibly respectful of this spirit. We're not allowed
Speaker 14: to use Wiji boards or anything like that because they
Speaker 14: don't like opening it up in our tunnels. We even
Speaker 14: do a prayer before and after to kind of make
Speaker 14: sure nothing follows us or attaches to the equipment, because
Speaker 14: you don't want to wake up with something at the
Speaker 14: end of your bed.
Speaker 11: And you're really good about debunking, right because people, you know,
Speaker 11: if flashlights or something dies, there are elements of that.
Speaker 11: There have been multiple times where I've been in the
Speaker 11: tunnel and it's this really weird feeling. You know, if
Speaker 11: someone were to be like whispering in your ear and
Speaker 11: like if they cuff your hands, you're really really close.
Speaker 11: I've had that happen so many times where it's.
Speaker 3: Like a way rely, it is weird.
Speaker 1: It is weird.
Speaker 3: You got me, I got to do one of these.
Speaker 1: Come on, shut all the lights off, it's only a flashlight.
Speaker 1: Come into the dock with us.
Speaker 4: How many people go in and pee themselves when this happens,
Speaker 4: By the way, is that common kind of do you
Speaker 4: have none?
Speaker 3: It was just towels down there.
Speaker 14: It was just one drunk guy who looked very uncomfortable
Speaker 14: for the tool asked if there were restrooms down the tunnels.
Speaker 14: I'm like, well, these are eighteen hundreds be a tunnels. No,
Speaker 14: it's not restrooms. So then he disappeared from the group
Speaker 14: and then came back looking much relieved.
Speaker 7: And he.
Speaker 4: It's not the man with that drinking a couple of
Speaker 4: beers before Ali is here. It's a local along with
Speaker 4: Miranda McGee. She's with American Legacy Tours. And since since
Speaker 4: he's token Australian, we're talking about Ghoster Real coasters in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: We've got we got slashers and stranglers. We've got the
Speaker 4: tunnels where the pro or prohibition and beer and people
Speaker 4: are dying under there, and we got spirits that are
Speaker 4: talking over radios and there's copper rods involved.
Speaker 3: And Ali is the moral character.
Speaker 1: We got it all those spirits. Lily, you didn't bring
Speaker 1: the whiskey down here?
Speaker 5: What the heck?
Speaker 11: There's a dog in one of the tunnels, which segues
Speaker 11: really nicely because right near a friendly market. Also this
Speaker 11: weekend there's going to be a Halloween dog costume contest,
Speaker 11: So if you want to dress up your your dog
Speaker 11: and maybe try to win some cash and some money
Speaker 11: and also go down into the tunnels and take a
Speaker 11: tour at the same time, so we had to do it.
Speaker 4: Is it a good idea to bring your rot wader
Speaker 4: down there with a haunted dog docking is what could
Speaker 4: go wrong?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 14: Nothing like a fantastic idea. You know, it's so weird
Speaker 14: to me. And it's not an Australian thing. Scott, When
Speaker 14: you were in Australia, did you see any animals like
Speaker 14: dressed up?
Speaker 7: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Dressed dressed up animals?
Speaker 1: Yeah, A mascot whale.
Speaker 4: I was a mascot at the at the stand at
Speaker 4: the cricket grounds in Melbourne where I saw run.
Speaker 14: That's a mascot, Yeah, strolling around with the animals jump.
Speaker 14: It was winter there, so it's not It's not a
Speaker 14: thing in Australia. In fact, I googled it to make
Speaker 14: sure it wasn't a thing and all it gave me
Speaker 14: AI just gave me. It's like, did you mean fairies
Speaker 14: like people? That I did not?
Speaker 1: I really, I really meant animals dress.
Speaker 3: Like literally dressing your dog up as a fireman.
Speaker 11: Or Australia does not have a reference for that. They're like,
Speaker 11: I think you mean fairies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really don't get it. It's just an American things.
Speaker 1: It's adorable.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 1: Americans love our dog. We love our dogs.
Speaker 3: Try to yeah, we try to make them seem as possible.
Speaker 7: I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it because dogs are the best people I know.
Speaker 1: Well, unless you're my neighbor. I'm about to beef with
Speaker 1: my neighbor.
Speaker 3: Oh we got beef.
Speaker 1: Oh we got beef.
Speaker 11: She's got a little dog, and then my boyfriend's dog.
Speaker 11: It's a golden dude, cutestle thing. All she wants to
Speaker 11: do is have love infection and lick fays. This morning,
Speaker 11: She's like, that dog looks like it's over forty pounds,
Speaker 11: but she's not. We're going to talk about this in
Speaker 11: the meeting, and I'm like, oh, you're messing with the
Speaker 11: wrong I'm gonna dress her up as a little cute
Speaker 11: little pumpkin and it's gonna win everybody over.
Speaker 4: And the one person complaining and Miranda, this is how
Speaker 4: the ghost stories start. One hundred years there is this
Speaker 4: tall one and you see, and she had a golden douce.
Speaker 14: I find out your apartment building is haunted.
Speaker 1: Now in a mysterious death to me like the dog
Speaker 1: is overwhelm her dog?
Speaker 3: You got time for one more?
Speaker 6: What do you got?
Speaker 1: Ooh? How about music Hall?
Speaker 14: Music Hall one of the top fifty most haunted places
Speaker 14: in the United States. According to Time magazine, Okay, what
Speaker 14: makes it honest? So it's a threefold reason. If you
Speaker 14: look at Music Hall, it's like divided into three buildings.
Speaker 14: The north end was the site of an orphanage. The
Speaker 14: middle building were Springer Auditorium is right behind it. What
Speaker 14: is now a parking garage was Ohio's first lunatic asylum.
Speaker 14: Their words not mine, and they buried a lot of
Speaker 14: the patients from the lunatic asylum in the foundation of
Speaker 14: Music Hall. I used to turn patients loosely. These people
Speaker 14: were treated horribly. You could hear the screams from across
Speaker 14: the canal where Central Parkway is now, and you could
Speaker 14: be put into the lunatic asylum for almost nothing. Husbands
Speaker 14: would put their wives in there for being too emotional metapause.
Speaker 1: I know I would have been.
Speaker 14: It's called perrymanopause. I would have been in that like that.
Speaker 1: And then then South end when they.
Speaker 14: Dug out the foundation in twenty sixty, they found over
Speaker 14: two hundred pounds of human remains in the South end
Speaker 14: from one of the cholera epidemics we had. There's a
Speaker 14: mass grave in there. It's between mass grave, Lunatic Asylum, orphanage.
Speaker 14: You're kind of checking the boxes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of angry people
Speaker 3: with issues. Yeah, a lot of track turns a lot
Speaker 3: of people with this shoes.
Speaker 11: And if you want to hang out at Music Hall
Speaker 11: this weekend and see hocus Pocus with the Sinaiety Pops,
Speaker 11: you can also do that on this Saturday and Sunday,
Speaker 11: seven thirty on Saturday, two o'clock on Sunday and the
Speaker 11: screen Hocus Pocus and listen to the pops.
Speaker 4: That's really cool. Say sorry to do this for an hour,
Speaker 4: but Marana, thanks for coming in today. We will want
Speaker 4: to go and get the tours.
Speaker 14: I just go to American Legacy Tours dot com and
Speaker 14: we have fourteen different tours. We have History Tours running
Speaker 14: throughout the underground, Gangster Baseball Tours, and then right now
Speaker 14: we have six different hornted tours. So whenever you want to.
Speaker 3: Come Gangster Tour or Gangster Tour, it's very important. It
Speaker 3: depends on how I'm feeling that way.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 3: Okay, good, all right too, chains over anyway Atli Martin.
Speaker 4: Thanks for popping in at the local loop of course
Speaker 4: at Alan Art Nate and every morning every Friday morning,
Speaker 4: it's the local loop of Ali Martin and we'll have
Speaker 4: a great Halloween, hopefully get some candy.
Speaker 3: Sloony seven hundred ww Cincinnati