1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: If you want to shime on what's happening to your 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: favorite kfan shows, you can make your voice heard on 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: the bratch On Bryant Kfan text line. So let's note 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: you say by texting your message a six four six 5 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: eighty six at six four six eight six standard text 6 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: message in NATO spot. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: The analyst Pete Versage, analyst in Booth analysts for the 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Vikings Radio Audio Media Network. He just stopped in the 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: studio for that break between Anthony Barr and the scribe 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Ben Gestling at Ben Guestling via x and this is 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: courtesy of Standard Heating and Air Standard Heating dot Com. 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: I mean like four and a half minutes with Versage. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: I just sat back and just watched you guys go 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: with smash route this what's another word for simplify that? Yep, 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: George Pickens this, Jake Ferguson that that was a lot 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 2: in four and a half minutes. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lively breaking here he asked what 18 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: the state of my six packer? 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 2: Like thereof so we covered a lot of ground. Yeah, 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: it was a body body weight check with you. You 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: were leaning back and he's like, oh ye boy, you 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: put on a lot of weight. I'm like, yeah, your 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: body fats up to seven percent. 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: And he even gave you a potential question you could 25 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 4: ask the coach later this week fly on the wall 26 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: and to learn a lot here in the last five minutes. 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the analyst came in as I was 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: refreshing the coffee and he's like, all right, when KO 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: comes in, here's a question for you. 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 5: Now. 31 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: If I see that on social media or somebody says 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: it to me, I'm just going to back up for 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: a second, you know, just to make sure I can 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: properly absorb it. It's kind of like, it's not like 35 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: all my questions are the greatest in the world, but 36 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: as you know, there's so much more that goes into 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: formulating questions a certain way than really anybody would know. 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: And yes, nobody needs to know, because quite honestly, it's boring. 39 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: But then when he was then when he wanted me 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: to compare wide receiver and tight end room tight ends rooms, 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: I walked out and I said, I'm gonna let the 42 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: scribe handle that one at the way State presser with. 43 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: Kay, oh yeah, yeah maybe, and we may we may 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: burn that one on float today of trying to cover 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: this group, and we can kind of get at it 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: that way maybe, but yeah, it's right, it's a deep group. 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a big challenge for them this week. 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: So yes, the idea of comparing, you know, it's it's 49 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: good on good there. The receivers will face each other, obviously, 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: but if you're comparing the two groups, they're both quite impressive. 51 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: But what's interesting actually with what he said is if 52 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: you go Pickens or let's go Lamb, Pickens, Cavante, Turpin, yep, 53 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: and then you go Jefferson, Addison, Naylor, Turpin, speed Guy, Naylor, 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: speed Guy, Ceede, Lamb and Jefferson, same draft. You know, 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say mercurial, but nevertheless, four for fifteen 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: the last couple of games. You know, Jefferson wants more 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: than that, but he's been cool CD, Lamb's been through things. 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: He's mostly been cool with things. And then you get 59 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: the enigmatic portion of the equation. It actually is analogous. 60 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot there, I mean, and Pickens has 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: had a great year and Addison has had quite a 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: few moments as well. But yes, with both of those guys, Yeah, 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of stuff that you kind of 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: have to be aware of what dum. What was the 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: read on the Sunday shutout in good morning? Good morning, Yeah, 66 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: it was. I spent a lot of time yesterday kind 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: of looking back through what they did offensively. Man. We 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 3: talked a lot about this idea of don't call it simplifying, 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: streamlining the game plan for the quarterback as we went 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 3: through it, and you did see. 71 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: Or have O'Connell in here in forty five minutes. I'm 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: being serious here is not using that word a thing. 73 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: Well yesterday he said it's not simplifying. Okay, yeah, because and. 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: He's brought it up a couple of times, but I 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: think he thinks of simplifying as a pejorative of like 76 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: this means this is more elementary, it's more. 77 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 5: We dumbed it down. Yeah, kid, Yes, another rout. 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: I think what he's trying to say is, let's go 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: back to things that there's maybe there's still complexity, but 80 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: there's a little less diversity in it. I mean West Phillips, 81 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: I asked West Phillips about this last week and he 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: actually talked about it in quite a bit of detail. 83 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was good. 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's fewer different formations, and some of 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: this is for McCarthy, some of this is for everybody else, 86 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: because his point was when you have all of these 87 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: different formations and all of these different little nuances to it, 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: there is a higher percentage chance that one of the 89 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: other ten is going to mess it up, especially when 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: you've had offensive linemen that haven't played in the same spots. 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: You've had people kind of shifting back and forth. Blake 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: Brandell's played a couple different places. It's Brandell, Blake Brandle. Yeah, 93 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: there was a brand doll in the pronunciations. Yeah, and 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: then it got changed. Okay, and I missed it. I 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: didn't know the guy for six years. Them be say 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: his name wrong all the time. Well, here's the genesis. 97 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 3: We're in Seattle, it's nine thirty in the evening. I'm 98 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: in the lobby ready to team hotel, but are ready 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: to shut it down. I think it was his wife, 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: but either his wife or a member of his family 101 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 3: very respectfully came up to me and said, show game 102 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: calls West. 103 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: We listened a lot. You guys are always saying Brandell. Ye, 104 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: Blake's not going to approach you and say it's Brandle. Okay, 105 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 2: But it's Brandal good, so it's Brandle. 106 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: Good to know. So we're Brandle Brandle Brandle perfect. 107 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: I will I will file that away as a guy 108 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: that gets gostling all the time, in fact, being on 109 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: this show, when people come up to me in public 110 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: and say my name correctly without me having to change it, 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: it's like you guys must listen to k Fan, So 112 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: thank you. But there's no chance that anybody ever gets 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: guessling right the first time. So but see, you just 114 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: file it away. 115 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: See a brandal you said, yeah, Brando, Brandel Brandle, you 116 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: said that simplification, pejorative streamlining, Yeah, okay, well management with 117 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: our radio station for decades, for two and a half decades, 118 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: kfan is two pedestrian, it's KFAM Yeah, okay, so you 119 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: need a better streamline that KFAM. Okay, okay, Well, even 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 2: though ninety nine point two percent of the population says 121 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: nobody says, hey, pa, you work for kfa in Yeah, No, 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 2: they say you work for k fans fan yep. 123 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. Anyway, just just don't be pejorative, Okay, got it? 124 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: I yes, On the on the simplification or not the 125 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: streamlining of the offense, A lot of it I think was, yeah, 126 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: just trying to make it so there are more formations, 127 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: more concepts that hey, we've run this a couple of 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: times and you get a few more reps at it. 129 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: I compared it last week to I think my editor said, 130 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 3: this is basically season four of The Bear, which I 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: haven't watched. But you go from like a restaurant that's 132 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: called all sorts of seasonal shift driven dishes that change 133 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 3: all the time to saying, hey, we're going to make 134 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: a really good burger that everybody knows how to make 135 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 3: really well. It's not going to be anything terribly fancy. 136 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: It maybe yeah, not exotic, it may have nice ingredients, 137 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 3: but we're going to do this really well and people 138 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: are going to come back. 139 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 5: For it because. 140 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you've been there, absolutely 141 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: you've been there right Norwich. Yes, the Lions tap like 142 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: four or five things on the menu, but they do 143 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: them really well for changes and they're drift and people 144 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: don't mind. 145 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: They keep coming back. That place is full all the time. 146 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it was a little bit of 147 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: that approach of let's major in the things that we 148 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: know we can do really well and worry about the 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: rest of it later. 150 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 5: Is there and how did we do we know it all? 151 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: How they got to this point and Bursuch was talking, 152 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: you know, part of the issue with with with McCarthy's 153 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: development has been the fact that he just hasn't been 154 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: on the field enough, right, I mean that's whether it 155 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 4: was the ankle and then we got the concussion. More recently, 156 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: just the process of reps in rhythm to his own schedule. 157 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 4: Does that play into where in some respects almost a 158 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 4: delay of this, of this moment of coming to terms 159 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: with the idea of this streamlining slash simplification where not 160 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 4: slash you just you get to a point in the 161 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: season where it's like, all right, everything that we've been 162 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: trying him in and out as he is, it just 163 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: hasn't worked. 164 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 5: Now let's do this. Yeah, I think there's that. I 165 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: think it's learning how a guy approaches things. I think 166 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 5: there's always art to this. 167 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: And I remember talking with Kevin O'Connell quite a bit 168 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: about this with Kirk Cousins, where it's you learn about 169 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: how a guy receives information, how he receives a certain message, 170 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: and then you say, okay, if this is how he 171 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: hears me, that means I have to approach him this way. 172 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: If he hears me say hey, I really want you 173 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: to do this, and then he kind of does it 174 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: to the nth degree and almost kind of overdoes it, 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: it's like, well, we have to message that differently to 176 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: that player so he receives it in a way that 177 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: is more productive. I think when you're talking about a 178 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: twenty two year old quarterback who's coming in and you 179 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 3: didn't have last year to see him on the field, 180 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: you didn't have last year to say, let's make corrections, 181 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: let's go through game planning in the way that you 182 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: would do it as a starting quarterback, there's going to 183 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: be a learning curve for the coaches as well of 184 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: how do we manage this guy, how do we coach him? 185 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: How do we help him be at his best? And 186 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: I think that's taken time, especially as he's had those 187 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: injuries that you mentioned, where it's you're not going through 188 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: it week to week. You're not getting the level of 189 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: repetitiveness and the level of consistency to say, Okay, we 190 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: tried this two weeks ago, this didn't work, and now 191 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: we can kind of learn from it and go I 192 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: think that's taken a while, and the fact that he 193 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: admitted last week too he overthinks, he thinks about a 194 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: lot of these things a lot, and then probably takes 195 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: a little too much onto the field with him sometimes. 196 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: So I think they were learning that about him and saying, 197 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: all right, this, at least for this point in his development, 198 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: is what it's going to take. 199 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: Well with Kevin. And I don't think I'm throwing caution 200 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: into the wind here. 201 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 5: For me. 202 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: The a topic with McCarthy, and I certainly can be wrong, 203 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: is all right, the release time or you know, he 204 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: didn't hold the ball as long as his fast as 205 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: of the year stepped up in the pocket, you know, 206 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: specifically on the addison to the left side. 207 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty one when the pocket banned out, I mean, yeah, okay, 208 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 5: Jefferson points him in collapse right away. There we go. 209 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: Well at Jefferson early in the game, you know, when 210 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: it was on one I think the first third down 211 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: on that not nineteen and ninety eight. Yep, McCarthy runs 212 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 2: up the middle, dives and Jefferson was pointing at him there. Yeah, 213 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: you know, so he clearly was in power him. 214 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 5: During the game. That's cool. 215 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: But so there are tangible things in baby step like 216 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: fashion that we're taking this weekend. For me, it was 217 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: McCarthy's calm and being on the sideline two hours two 218 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: fifteen before the game to do Vikings Football Sunday and 219 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: see him come out and stuff like that. 220 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: I'm just saying he was different. 221 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: You know, he was a marketly different could just in 222 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: more calculated fashion. There was intent, he was more calm, 223 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: and he was more calm during the game, and he 224 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: was more calm after the game. 225 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 5: Now, the part I won't bring up with. 226 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: Kevin is I believe JJ deeply regrets that alter ego thing. 227 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: That I just think that because I mean, he's twenty 228 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: two years old. Man, he's on social media more than 229 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: all of us combined. It even if they say they're 230 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: not well, I mean, it's gonna bite you for a 231 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: little while. The good thing for him is that in 232 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 2: this day and age, it'll go away quickly because of 233 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: you know, attention spans. 234 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 5: Yes that are of twenty twenty five. 235 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: But you know, I think he wants to aren't laying 236 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 2: the groundwork because when Order brought it up to me, 237 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: you know, right after the Lions game, I'm like, the 238 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: nine bit sucks, Okay. 239 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: I don't like it. 240 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: It's not who I know this kid is, and that's 241 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: what happened, and it sucks, and I don't think great 242 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: things are gonna come out of it. Well, so you 243 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 2: can just tell with intent he's establishing who he truly is, 244 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: win or loss. I think that's the a topic. 245 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need to have a quarterback do that, 246 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: especially in a situation where you are the youngest starter 247 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: in the NFL playing with one of the more veteran 248 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL. I think just saying I'm going 249 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: to show up and do my job at a high 250 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: enough level that we can win games, that's the best 251 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: way to kind of lay a foundation because all of 252 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: the other stuff that can come later if you want 253 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: it to. I don't know that it even needs to, 254 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: but I think the easiest way to get people around 255 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: you to say, Okay, we can ride with this kid 256 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: is to show up every week and the results on 257 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Sundays are consistent enough to say yes, we can. Everybody 258 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: can relax a little bit because we see enough of 259 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: a body of work to suggest that we can trust 260 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 3: it and see he's going to develop and his. 261 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: Teammates and we'll never hear this, and I'm not going 262 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: to ask about things like this, but like say Jamar 263 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: Chase or somebody's texting with Justin Jefferson dog four for 264 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: fifteen over the last two what's up with nine? 265 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 5: And by the way, what's up with your guy? 266 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: Having played X amount of games and now all of 267 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: a sudden he gets to do this alter ego thing. 268 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: So like they talk about more things, and if it 269 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: compounds with teammates and they start to get frustrated, I 270 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: mean that just takes things and makes it worse. 271 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 4: The way you were talking that you hit on something 272 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: that was kind of my thought out of Sunday's game 273 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: is that Kevin O'Connell is learning through this experience too. So, 274 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: whether it was Kirk Cousins in twenty two, twenty two, 275 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: Darnold last year, the common theme there is Kevin O'Connell's 276 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 4: like a professor teaching a four hundred class and he 277 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: didn't necessarily and he talked about we're challenging JJ, We're 278 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: we are putting a ton on his plate to watch 279 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: him handle it or how he handles it, and so, 280 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 4: but the kid couldn't handle the four hundred class, and 281 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 4: so over the course of this year, the head coach, 282 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: and it's frustrating for many of us as fans. 283 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 5: It's like it's a five win team. 284 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's even more frustrating inside that locker Roomah. 285 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: But the coach being able to learn and evolve through 286 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: this process just as much as we would expect that 287 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: the kid does it. 288 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 5: That's just fascinating. 289 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 4: That environment and that experience that they're all going on 290 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: right now. 291 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 5: No doubt. 292 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: I mean, it is one of those things that I've 293 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: heard a lot of people say, well, why did it 294 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 3: take them this long to get to this point? I 295 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: think some of it is you haven't had those repetitive 296 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: weeks of okay, he did this four weeks ago, because 297 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: it's just been these fits and starts with how much 298 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 3: he's playing because of the injuries. But there's also I 299 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: think an element for the co coach of and you 300 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 3: hear a lot of play callers, whether it's Kevin O'Connell, 301 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: Sean McVay, Kyle shanahan, talk about how the plays have 302 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: answers in them, that there's a belief in the offensive 303 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: structure here and in this general tree of offenses that 304 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: if you run things the way they're supposed to be run. 305 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: The plays are well enough designed that you will have 306 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: opportunities to make plays even if defenses are throwing things 307 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: at you. It's not as complex as you would think 308 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: because you're not being asked to read coverages on the fly. 309 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: It's throw to open grass, find all these places to go, 310 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: and you can make this accessible to young quarterbacks. I 311 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: think on a classroom level, McCarthy has handled all those 312 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: extremely well. I think there's also the component where you 313 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: go on the field, and when it's not a classroom 314 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: in the sense that where you take the test in 315 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: the classroom, you take the test on the field, and 316 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: that's where I think things like just being a little 317 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: too fired up sometimes may come to play overthinking the 318 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: just I need to keep myself at kind of a 319 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: a base level of emotion, of energy or adrenaline. All 320 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff plays into it. So even if 321 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: in a classroom he's saying, yeah, I got this. If 322 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: this happens, I go here, the biomechanics of I need 323 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 3: to throw a ball accurately and on time. That is 324 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: another component of this. And I think you're just seeing 325 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: if there are things we know because we've seen it 326 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: enough now that he throws corner routes really well, or 327 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 3: you know, things off of certain concepts really well. We 328 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: can go back to that and say, let's just live 329 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: in this world for now and kind of come back 330 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: to all this other stuff later and. 331 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 4: Does this then potential, I mean, he's got to go out. 332 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: The next step for McCarthy, of course, is to do 333 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: what he did on Sunday. 334 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: Yeah right, and play with that call and play with 335 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: that poise. 336 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: And would this be kind of the simplification, oh excuse me, 337 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: the streamlining, That would be kind of what we should 338 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: expect over the final four more of the same most 339 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: likely to create We need to create a higher floor 340 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: for the kid to understand exactly into twenty twenty six. 341 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: This impacts decision made on multiple levels in terms of 342 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: what you expect from nine to next season, and so 343 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: creating that higher floor part of that a time. 344 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: I think so, I mean, I think you saw it 345 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: on Sunday. I mean they ran the ball on a 346 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: higher percentage of plays. Now, some of this's courses. They 347 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: had the lead the entire game, but they ran more 348 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: than they ever have under Kevin O'Connell in terms of 349 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: percentage of the time it was like fifty five percent. 350 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: It's only like the eighth or ninth time in sixty 351 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: four games that they've been over fifty. So it was runs, 352 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: it was heavy personnel, it was concepts that he has 353 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 3: shown he likes. It was things that got the ball 354 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: out of his hand relatively quickly. I would imagine that 355 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: that's kind of the base of your menu, and they'll 356 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: probably add a little bit as they feel comfortable with it. 357 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: But yes, I would imagine the focus now is let's 358 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: get the floor, Let's get a repeatable standard of this, 359 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: and then you go from there. 360 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: Subscribe Ben Gesling sharing a football information and second to 361 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: none fashion and we then standard Heating and air Standard 362 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: Heating dot Com for the year sponsorship at ben Gestlin 363 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: via Twitter if you would like to follow him, and 364 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: when we return, a defensive related conversation will emerge involving 365 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: Brian Flores and his work that he's done this year. 366 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: You're listening to nine to noon at FN one hundred 367 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: point three KFA N. 368 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: The Friday Football Feasts head Wes to Buffalo Wildwings Plymouth 369 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: this week and you can join Pa Nordo Alex Lewis. 370 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: This Friday is to get you ready for Sunday night 371 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Showdown with the Cowboys, plus great food, your shot at 372 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: prizes all morning long. Tours open at eight am. It 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: details kfa n dot com keyword calendar. 374 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 5: Hey with Kevin O'Connell. 375 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: We do a talk back weekly free iHeart audio app 376 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: and have thirty seconds to opine. We play them back 377 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: for the head coach every week unless we're at Shields 378 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: for Toys for Tots, then we have a three tots 379 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: ask him questions, but fire away with some talkbacks and 380 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 2: maybe maybe a defensive bent this week would would be 381 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: really cool in that I'm going to I'm gonna frame 382 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: it up now for the scribe. Ben Gesling, Brian Flores worked. 383 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: This year has been It's just been mostly terrific. If 384 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: you think about all the circumstances and the time of 385 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: possession and. 386 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: Things like that. And you know Eric Wilson. 387 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: Somebody had Anthony Barr on the radio show about forty 388 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: five minutes ago and he played with Eric Wilson herks 389 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: first four years. Yeah, and here's Eric with fifteen tackles 390 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: for loss, leading the team in TFLs, playing himself into 391 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: crazily the biggest deal of his career is going to 392 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 2: come at this stage of his career. So Eric Wilson 393 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: could be a talker or anything defensive related ideas Nordo Well, yeah, you. 394 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 4: Know, hey, and talkbacks are so easy. Hit that microphone. 395 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: PA mentioned the thirty second limit, but it's like, hey, 396 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: this is this is Eric in Chaska. How important was 397 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 4: the complimentary aspect of the team on Sunday getting those 398 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 4: turnovers on the defense or you know, hitman in his 399 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 4: thirty eighth career interception feels like he's almost as old 400 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 4: as you are, coach, and he's still making plays out there. 401 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: That's actually kind of almost true exactly, So to that end, 402 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 4: just kind of you know, again, hey, this is coach, 403 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 4: your name and where you're from, and maybe just something 404 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: that you saw in the game that you really appreciate 405 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 4: and want some insight on from the coach into Sunday 406 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: night a little defensive bent that like the way PA 407 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 4: was taking that and. 408 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: Oh, go ahead, Harrison Smith I think will be the 409 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 3: last player Well unless yeah, at all likely that Harrison 410 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: Smith will be the last player Kevin O'Connell coaches who 411 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: was born in the same decade as him. Wow, okay, yes, 412 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 3: In the eighties. And I say that as somebody who 413 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: was also born in said decade. 414 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Right. Well, like I said to Ben ben Gaslin at 415 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: Ben Gaslin Vax, follow if you're so inclined, we have 416 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 2: access vikings the podcast Andrew Emily and end up Ben 417 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: do after games and during the week we got a 418 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: newsletter doing a really good job over there. 419 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: Start Tribune, Start tribune dot com. 420 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: Flores worked this year, you know when, like some I 421 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 2: was chatting with somebody last week after the Seahawks game 422 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: and they were trying to get after somebody. They were 423 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 2: trying to get after players for miss tackles in the 424 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and I'm like, I understand that they're not preferred, 425 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: but holy cow. I mean, when every single game is 426 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: two thirds lopsided with the time of possession, people get 427 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: tired and sure, hey, better is required. Okay, better is 428 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: probably required with you too and these areas, but you're tired, 429 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: you know, metaphorically speaking, right, I think Flores worked this year, 430 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: not having Van Ginkoll, not having cash men x amount 431 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: of games. 432 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: I think it's masterful. Yeah, they have not. I mean 433 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: if you compare last year to this year, I mean 434 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 3: the numbers certainly were better last year, but they were 435 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: also playing in situations where it's a lot more favorable, 436 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 3: and you see it on Sunday. It is a lot 437 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 3: easier to play, especially on the defensive side of the ball, 438 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: especially as a pass rusher, when you are playing with 439 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: a lead, and they have done that almost none this year. 440 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: I mean they had had a lead I think in 441 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: the Bengals game, and then it was the Lions game, 442 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 3: and then Sunday, I mean, you know, absence a couple 443 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: hey it's three nothing kind of things early in the game. 444 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 3: They have played from behind or with the score even 445 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: for most of the year, so having opportunities to do 446 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: what they did on Sunday and pin their ears back 447 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 3: have not been there. It's been a lot of hey, 448 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 3: we've been on the field. Now there was a turnover. 449 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: We got to go out and get another stop. Like 450 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 3: a defense that's had it's back against the wall quite 451 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: a bit, or has been asked to do a lot, 452 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 3: has been required to do more. To put a different 453 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: spin on that phrase, they have done quite a bit 454 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: this year to say we're going to keep this team 455 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 3: in games because of the way we can get stops 456 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 3: and play. And that's with I think that's injuries. I 457 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: think in the in the core with vankinkol and and 458 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: certainly Grenard's had a couple of things here. It's been 459 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 3: you know, some some things in the secondary. Jeff Okuda 460 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: has been hurt, and some of the corners probably haven't 461 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: played quite to the level that they want, but they 462 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: have with the Han and they've been dealt. I think 463 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 3: done quite a bit of exemplary work. 464 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: I think Fabian Moreau has played better than Jeff Okuda 465 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: played at any step. And I mean we can play 466 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: this hashmark game. This no indictment on Okuda, but it's like, 467 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: you know, he had a rough year with Houston last year. 468 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: So then you start asking some of the background questions 469 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 2: about you know, when he's at his best, like what's 470 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: happening as short side of the field, you know where 471 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: you limit the big side of the field, whereas to 472 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: a lot of running and stuff super physical. We remember 473 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: him knocking Jefferson off his spot with the Lions a 474 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Well, I mean that didn't really develop. 475 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: Fabyan Moreau, the former member of the Washington team for 476 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: I think he had six of his seven interceptions in 477 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: his four years with Washington, Faby and Moreau. We're not 478 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: trying to make him sound like Darryl Green re incarnate, 479 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: but he stepped into a spot. He I mean, I 480 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: can't remember him being on the wrong side of something 481 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: just terrible where it repeatedly happens. So fabym Moreau sneaky 482 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 2: fashion has done good work. 483 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he has. 484 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 3: I mean they've needed somebody to step in there because 485 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: the corner depth was a question at the beginning of 486 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 3: the season. Then when Akudo goes down, it's okay, we 487 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: need somebody to come in here. And Moreau had been 488 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: here on the practice squad last year, it didn't really 489 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: have this big of a role. But yeah, whether it's 490 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 3: him or we mentioned Eric Wilson, I mean Eric Wilson 491 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: has been terrific. So yes, the way that they have 492 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 3: gotten meaningful contributions out of players that not a lot 493 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: of people would have thought, we're going to be big 494 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: contributors on a defense with a lot of high end players, 495 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: it has mattered and they've needed it. 496 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 5: And yeah, that's. 497 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 3: Been an impressive work by this coaching staff to get 498 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 3: that kind of contribution and for those players for buying 499 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 3: into it too, I think that's certainly been a bright 500 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: spot for this defense. 501 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: With Hargrave and Jonathan Allen. Just paint with a broad 502 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: brush through. What are we looking at now thirteen through 503 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 2: thirteen of them? What have you thought of their seasons? Well, 504 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: I mean Hargrave makes the play on Sunday. I think 505 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 2: that was the type of play, the type of impact 506 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: I thought he would have more during training camp, I thought, boy, 507 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: this guy is He's violent, he's explosive. You're going to 508 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: see the impact he makes a lot on this team, 509 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 2: and that hasn't really played out quite to that degree. 510 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: So I mean, Jalen Redman another guy that stepped into 511 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 2: a bigger role and I think has changed the calculus 512 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: a little bit of how they use those guys. 513 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 5: But given what they spent. 514 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: On Allen and Hargrave, and given the cap space that 515 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: they allocated to those two players, I think they would 516 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: have expected a little bit more. And I'm wondering where 517 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: that will go because they have cap questions and those 518 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: two players, especially Hargrave, are going to be I think 519 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: decisions for them in the offseason. 520 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 2: Lastly, and Nordo brought this up to me before the show, 521 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: and it triggered me to write it down for you. 522 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 2: Do you see greatness with anybody in the NFL? I mean, 523 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: you got the Eagles losing to Dick or the kicker 524 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: last night. And Philadelphia personifies as much as I've ever 525 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: seen a team, more so than Kansas City because I 526 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: think there's a out of enigma to Philadelphia that was 527 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 2: not there with Kansas City. We're gonna push, don't let 528 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: us in. We're gonna push this button. And when everybody 529 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: tries ten of ten, nobody can beat us. 530 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 5: Right, maybe they'll be right. 531 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: Sa Quan's been in and out emphasis on out a 532 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: majority of the season, and I say performance wise, So 533 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: you got that with Philly, Green Bay. You know they 534 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: all have their limitation. Yes, do you see greatness anywhere? 535 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: I mean the team that I would look at in 536 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 3: the NFC is the Rams, probably because Matthew Stafford's done it. 537 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 3: I mean, if he's healthy. Obviously that's always a question 538 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: with him, and he's been healthy to this point. But 539 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: the way they renovated that defense after you know, they 540 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 3: had the run obviously where they win the Super Bowl 541 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 3: with O'Connell as THEOC there and list sneed it, traded 542 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 3: all the picks and they had to reset that whole roster. 543 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: They've done it on defense. I mean they've they with 544 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: whether it's Jared Verus, Kobe Turner. I mean, they have 545 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 3: a lot of pieces that will affect things, as the 546 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: Viking saw in the playoffs last year between them and 547 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 3: Stafford throwing to DeVante Adams, Puka Nakua. That's a team 548 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 3: that's got a lot of weapons. That would be the 549 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: team i'd look at in the NFC. I don't know 550 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: that there's like like a dominator. Yeah, I don't know 551 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: that it's like a lock solid contender, but that would 552 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: be the team i'd look at the top of the conference. 553 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 3: I don't think it's quite as determined as it's been 554 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: a passing than the AFC. Certainly is much more wide 555 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: open than it's been. 556 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, we'll leave you with this because there it's not 557 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: a great chance, but it's not an awful chance that 558 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 2: this could happen. Seahawks are ten and three Rams are 559 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: ten and three Rams beat them. Donald in the most 560 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: pressure field game he had he's had as a member 561 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: of the Seahawks through four picks. Then a next kind 562 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: of pressure field game because he's going against his former team. 563 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 2: He takes four sacks, thirty eight percent of the amount 564 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: he had into the game. So and then we got 565 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: Week eighteen last year. I think you understand where I'm 566 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 2: going here. There is a chance that's Donald and Seattle 567 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: will be playing Week eighteen at San Francisco for the 568 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 2: one seed. Yeah, there's a chance. I mean that would 569 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: be as a scribe. Well that's elite drop right. 570 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean there's a lot of there's a 571 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: lot of angles in the NFC West, a little bit 572 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: like the NFC North last year, where there's just all 573 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot of teams competing for things. 574 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 3: But yes, whether Darnold's had the games he's had against 575 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: the Rams, which is getting to be a number of 576 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: them now, and then playing his former team San Francisco, 577 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: which was kind of the place that he the Vikings 578 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 3: looked at and said, okay, he's been in a similar offense. 579 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: They coached him better than he'd had. Yeah, he owes 580 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: probably some things to the forty nine ers as well. So, yeah, 581 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: there are a lot of good storylines in a couple 582 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: of divisions. Because the NFC West NFC North are are 583 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 3: all quite heated competitions. 584 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: The West is going to have three double digit win 585 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: teams likely. I mean you talk about the Rams or 586 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 4: the Seahawks, and but the Niners. The Niners are hosting 587 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: the Titans, They're at the Colts potentially sacking Philip Rivers 588 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: around people, right, and then they host the Bears before 589 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: that Seahawks game. I mean they're looking potentially at being 590 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 4: a twelve win team into that mix. No, the AFC 591 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: West is just stacked in an otherwise super muddy conference. 592 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Ma'am you're the very best, great great seeing you today 593 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: and I have a wonderful day. Okay, you too, Ben 594 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: Gasoline Standard Heating and Air Standard Heating dot Com, thank 595 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: you very much. 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Wolves 616 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 4: lose one eight, one five last night, and it's just 617 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: the inconsistency of this team, albeit fifteen to nine at 618 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 4: one point we're talking they lose to all the teams 619 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 4: over five hundred, kind of like they did last night, 620 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: beat all the bad teams. Cool dig all that, But 621 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, when he has himself by his standards of 622 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: pedestrian evening, that's when you see, oh, wow, look at 623 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: das Reid. Wow, look at Jaden McDaniels in that offense, 624 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 4: and he's having career averages per thirty six, et cetera. 625 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: All of those things great, but then when Anthony has 626 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: a night like last night where he probably could have 627 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 4: gone for sixty, then you get Jaden McDaniels one to seven, 628 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 4: Dante DiVincenzo one to seven, Mike Conley all of five 629 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,719 Speaker 4: from the floor last night, and nas Reed two to twelve. 630 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 5: Somewhere in that neighborhood. I'm just going to add that 631 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 5: math up on the fly. 632 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: It's like four for thirty one combined something like that. 633 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: That is just absolutely hideous and really inexplicable for this team. 634 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 5: I know, the lacking the point guard. 635 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: You saw Bones Highland, kind of getting Dillingham's minutes last night, 636 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 4: which is just continuing to be concerning, kind of starting 637 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: to feel like maybe Dillingham's not going to be a 638 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: thing in the long term. And Mike Conley's just frankly, 639 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you get fifteen minutes out of him last night, 640 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 4: and that's probably three or four too many. 641 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: He's just showing his age at this stage of his career. 642 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: So frustrating loss, a bookerless bunch in the Suns. You 643 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: got to win those games, and that just kind of 644 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 4: goes down to again, muddy Western Conference. We're all steering 645 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: up at OKC. But you got to have those w's, 646 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: wins like last night in a game at Target Center, 647 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: and I believe the Dubs are up next for the 648 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: Tea Wolves. The Dubs, I believe on the twelfth. Is 649 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: that a Friday affair? Yeah, that's a Friday out the bay. Yeah, 650 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: STEP's not playing right now. Probably we'll come back soon. 651 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: Minnesota Wild won four to one last night over the Kraken, 652 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: and it was Jule ERICSONEK with a goal and two assists, 653 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: kind of leading the way, Caprice off with an empty netter, 654 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: and then later just to kind of put the bow 655 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: on it, Tarasenko. Hey, there was a Vlaid Tarasenko empty 656 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 4: net goal in the mix, I think his third total 657 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: tally since joining the Minnesota Wild. But they needed that 658 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 4: kind of stemming the tide. Losing three of four at 659 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: one point, we're looking at that Western Canada swing. It's like, oh, 660 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: this is a terrific opportunity to rally up the points. Well, 661 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 4: they struggled, and so now coming home, they've been playing 662 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: better against our division rivals. It's Dallas on Thursday, so 663 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: let's get two at home. It was Gus Buss I 664 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 4: believe twenty three saves and the one goal allowed in net. 665 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 5: Maybe it's yesper on Thursday. We shall see. 666 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 4: But it sounds like we're gonna have the head coach, 667 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: I believe at some point tomorrow night to noon, and 668 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: he can give us more intel on that as well. 669 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: And with the with the let's just say, I mean 670 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: from a division standpoint, yes, but but like the totality 671 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: of the western side of the equation, the victory they 672 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: had earlier this season over over Vegas, I believe it 673 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 2: was an overtime. So you got Vegas. You snapped that 674 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: stupid long losing streak against Winnipeg. Uh, you did the 675 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: day after Thanksgiving to Colorado, they run a ten game vendor. 676 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: You beat them in overtime and and Volstat shuts down 677 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 2: mccarr and McKinnon to win the game in the shootout. 678 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: And Dallas is next, you know where you're just thinking 679 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: about these teams that beat you, some dramatically more than 680 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: you beat them. Yeah, Dallas is next in the lineup. 681 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: Dallas is next. So Tomorrow night's gonna be make that. 682 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: Thursday night's gonna be cool. 683 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 4: Well, And and part of what makes it, what makes 684 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: it cool on Sunday night is what happened with the 685 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: Eagles last night, And you know, we've talked about it, 686 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: push Button, We've chatted with mister Gesling about it. But 687 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 4: in the end, that that l for the Eagles last 688 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: night only further propels and motivates this bunch with Schottenheimer 689 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 4: and ever Fluse and everybody knowing they're just a game 690 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: and a half back their route to the playoffs. As 691 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: we were talking last segment, with so many double digit 692 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 4: win teams, specifically out of the NFC West, they need 693 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: to win the East to get into the playoffs, and 694 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 4: an opportunity for Dallas and Jerry's world Sunday night lights, 695 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: and they like to show up in primetime. Jerry just 696 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 4: wouldn't have it any other way than a standalone game 697 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: with his team and a chance to go to seven 698 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: to six and one. 699 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 5: Okaya, I just wanted the flex. I wanted the flex. 700 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: It's super selfish that I wanted the flex because then, 701 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: fybody did fan line's gonna end at like twelve thirty 702 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: at night versus you know, just a little just a neat, 703 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: tidy three pm game and everyone goes home happy and 704 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 4: gets a little sleep. But the motivating factor for the Cowboys, 705 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 4: is that the East is very much in reach after 706 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: and I think there was a miskick last night to 707 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: four picks by Jalen Hurts and they lose at the 708 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 4: at the Chargers out West in overtime twenty two to nineteen. 709 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 5: Take it a step farther with Dallas. 710 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 2: What the Philly loss, but all of the social media 711 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: related terrorism George Pickens faced, Yeah, you think he's gonna 712 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: be ready to go Sunday night, absolutely nationally televised game. 713 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 5: We shall see well, I. 714 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: And I just I wonder as we as we put 715 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: a rap on news to Nord here momentarily just kind 716 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 4: of the idea with when social media funnels you into clips, 717 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 4: When they funnel you into viral videos versus actually watching 718 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 4: every single route and every single moment of that game, 719 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 4: the negativity that can be pulled out of it again 720 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 4: funneled into those clips can maybe present a bad perception 721 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 4: of you know, George Pickens whatever, I don't. I mean, 722 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 4: by all accounts, I don't think he's a problem off 723 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 4: the field. When he's on the field and he's engaged, 724 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: he's incredibly good. Is the question when he's engaged, is 725 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 4: that even as much of a question as. 726 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 5: We're making it out to be here, who knows? 727 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 4: But that wraps up news Denord again, brought to you 728 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 4: by Canterbury Park Canterbury Park dot com. 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