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Speaker 1: Of course, It's just they're both out forever, so that

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Speaker 1: a little piece of decent news there four o'clock hour

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Speaker 1: of the Bumper to Bumper program, Barrero. And if I'd say,

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Speaker 1: Blake Moore, no, that's you, that's understand that would be habit. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's basketball. It is what by the way, we'll get

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Speaker 1: I guess they weren't going to win them all. But

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Speaker 1: it had to be a disappointing ball game for them

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Speaker 1: against Michigan State yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was ten in the first half, felt like

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Speaker 2: they were in good control of it, and then quarter

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Speaker 1: Basically that was the issue. We'll get to that more

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Speaker 1: four thirty with the reaction to Winter Olympics hockey action,

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Speaker 1: especially of course, the gold Medal game and then Al

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Speaker 1: as well. The stat that got my attention more than

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Speaker 1: That's exactly it. That's I mean, we've we've seen with

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Speaker 1: now it's the vindication tour for Billy Garrett. He's basically

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Speaker 1: being told you were right. A lot of people were wrong,

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Speaker 1: best pieces that fit together. The age old discussion about grit, guile, determination,

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Speaker 1: hope to get him on this week. I have no

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Speaker 1: right now. I think the team was back today from

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Speaker 2: I've seen some videos of them clearing customs, getting out

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Speaker 1: Whatever it is. It is stunning by the way that

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why they just play in the summer. That's

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Speaker 2: got to be. It's too difficult to negotiate. What do

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Speaker 2: Else they didn't a break. The teams have played in

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Speaker 2: the conference finals, played till June, went right to paris

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Speaker 2: very very true, Davy. So what do you expect from

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Speaker 1: Means you can't just put together an all star team.

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Speaker 1: so you get to overtime, if they'd have lost to Canada,

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Speaker 1: then we'll get Wes Walls's view about what he saw yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That the NHL trade deadline was lifted at eleven to

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Speaker 2: In fact, I know I can because I have talked

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Speaker 2: So I've talked to him twice. I have never had

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Speaker 1: Metrodome ninety two. Yeah, that's I don't blame. I wouldn't either.

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Speaker 2: That's why we got al Michaels today. That's exactly correct

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Speaker 1: Lawyer Tom Wrights regarding Canada puckheads and players whining about

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Speaker 1: Parrish at the Forefront will tell you that you will

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Speaker 1: The final score is what matters, and you got to

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Speaker 1: find a way to get one more gold than your opponent.

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Speaker 1: I would say this to Lawyer Tom. I agree with

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Speaker 2: We've done it with the Wild for ten straight years.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't really amount to anything because you don't

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Speaker 4: the Americans had more depth than the Canadians as well.

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Speaker 4: But again, these are one game tournaments. Anything can happen

433
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 4: in these uh, in these Olympics, in one game scenarios.

434
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Speaker 1: Where were you on all of the discussion regarding the

435
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: so the team's selection, because as you well know, there's

436
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: all well it's true every time there's going to be

437
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: debate and disagreement, and Garren made it pretty clear. You know,

438
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm not just interested in talent. I am interested in

439
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: pieces that fit together. I am looking for some glue, guys,

440
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: I am looking for some some and some toughness. And

441
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: you could tell there are people keeping the names man

442
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: of big you know, big high end talent that was

443
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: kept off this team. Where were you on all that discussion.

444
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure it interested you and intrigue you, because I

445
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: always find that fascinating. Whatever philosophy a particular general manager

446
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, goes with in a situation like that.

447
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was.

448
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: Obviously he could have been second guest had they lost

449
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 4: in the quarterfinals. And listen to any general manager that

450
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: gets into this understands there, if you don't win, you're

451
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 4: gonna be second guests. But going into this tournament, never

452
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 4: second guest Billy's decisions on anybody.

453
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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact.

454
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 4: The way it played out, like the way he put

455
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 4: together the fourth line with with JT.

456
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: Miller, who's a.

457
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 4: Left handed face off guy, and Vincent Trochek, who's a

458
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: right handed face off guy. That was brilliant, brilliant, brilliant

459
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 4: because they had face off guys, especially on the penalty kill.

460
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: You can always have a face off guy on their

461
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 4: wrong on their strong strong side.

462
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: Dan.

463
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 4: When the when team Canada had a five on three

464
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 4: for a minute twenty three seconds, the game was in

465
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 4: the ballance. That's another reason the Canadians didn't deserve to win.

466
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: They didn't generate very many high opportunities, you know, scoring

467
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: opportunities on that five on three. But who won that

468
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: first face off? Vincent Trochek got the puck all the

469
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: way down the ice chewed up about twenty five of that.

470
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: Of that, you know, five on three right away just

471
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 4: from winning that face off. So listen the penalty kill.

472
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: Those two guys that they brought in were face off specialists.

473
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 4: You've got a righty and you've got a lefty, and

474
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 4: it matters. It matters in big games. It matters to

475
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 4: win a Stanley Cuppies, especially laden periods, laden games. Dan,

476
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 4: you look at Billy Garreon, He's won for Stanley Cuffs.

477
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 4: He won a couple as a player. He played for

478
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: Jock Lamaire when he won a Cup in ninety five. Okay,

479
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: they I'm trying to think of their top centermen would

480
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 4: have been.

481
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: It would have been Bobby hole Leak.

482
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 4: Okay, Jock Lamire was lean on him to win big

483
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 4: face offs and Billy Garran knows how important face offs

484
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 4: are at the end of the game. You think about

485
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 4: when he won a Cup in Dallas, Billy Garan was

486
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 4: there as well. He also they had Yuri Lehtinen and

487
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: John Madden who won four selfie trophies. Unbelievable face off guy.

488
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: He's he's lived it, He's he's he's been.

489
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 4: Through the battles for two months to win a Stanley Cup.

490
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 4: You know, coaches are putting out their best face off

491
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 4: guys just to win a face off, get it out

492
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: into the neutral zone and then and then get off

493
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 4: the ice so we can get other guys on the ice.

494
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: That's what great coaches do. And if you have those

495
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 4: type of guys, you need to utilize them. And I

496
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 4: thought Mike Sullivan and his coaching staff did a great

497
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: job of utilizing the righty lefty with JT. Miller as

498
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: a left handed face off guy, and obviously Vincent Trochak,

499
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 4: who's who's one of the best in the business as a.

500
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Speaker 1: Righty eighteen for eighteen. I think on the on the

501
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: penalty kill throughout the tournament, is.

502
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Speaker 4: That what it was was perfect?

503
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was perfect and no more, you know, And

504
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: and and obviously at the most important on the five

505
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: on three it showed up as well. But that that

506
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: has been there, that had been their strength through the

507
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: through the entire tournament.

508
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 3: You know.

509
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: Again, it's the one thing about well you know this

510
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: about Garren better than I do, but I've certainly learned

511
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: it over the years in having him on is he

512
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: I don't think it effect any of it affects him.

513
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's he's one of those guys who

514
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: and it doesn't always mean he's gonna make the right

515
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 1: decision right. There are general managers who screw up and

516
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: make the wrong calls. But he's not going to toss

517
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: and turn on stuff like that. He's one of the

518
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, he's one of those guys

519
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: who whatever he's gonna do, he's gonna do. And he's

520
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: not gonna he's not gonna be laborate, he's not gonna agonize,

521
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: he's not gonna lose his mind over it once he's

522
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: made the decisions.

523
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Speaker 4: No, he loses zero sleep, no sleep none, because he

524
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 4: he believes in what he believes in and he's got

525
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 4: his convictions about him. Are you and he's set up

526
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: publicly and everybody knows that you're never as a general manager,

527
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 4: You're always not going to make the the right decision.

528
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: You're not gonna make You're not you're never going to

529
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 4: be perfect, but you've got to be right more than

530
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: you're wrong, especially with the big ones. You know, in

531
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: a cap world, putting teams together, you you get a

532
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 4: couple of players that are overpaid and all of a sudden,

533
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: you get that news around you, and it's just hard

534
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 4: to beat top teams. And you know, we've got some

535
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: guys locked in here right now with Eric Sinak and

536
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: Boldie at you know, very nice numbers, an opportunity right

537
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: now here for the next few years for the Minnesota

538
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: while to you know, just to bang on the door.

539
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I know we've been there a

540
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 4: few times over in the playoffs the last few years,

541
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: haven't been able to break down that door. But eventually

542
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: it's going to happen here at some point.

543
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: We'll get going to get to that in a minute.

544
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: What do you think I don't want to you know,

545
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: overstate what took place yesterday as as good a theater

546
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: as it was, as good as you could possibly hope

547
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: for for an event that was hyped to that degree

548
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: to actually deliver to the extent that it did. But

549
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: what do you think is fair to say about what

550
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: a victory like that does for American hockey moving forward?

551
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: Well, it's dan, It's going to be huge for American hockey.

552
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: It just it just is.

553
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: I mean, Age shot me in a screenshot of his

554
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 4: h his his sons, my team, Uh, they were watching

555
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 4: the game in some in some room or whatever when

556
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 4: the gold medal was the goal was scored, and the

557
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 4: kids were going nuts and the parents were going nuts.

558
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 4: I've been out on the streets talking to parents. Uh

559
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 4: who's had a family that got back from Virginia. They

560
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: were up there playing in a big tournament, like a

561
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: pee wee tournament, and the kids were watching the the

562
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 4: two teams, three four teams were watching the the in

563
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: the lobby, the game, and the when the winning goal

564
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 4: was scored and parents are hugging each other from Lakeville

565
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: and still Water, and he said, it was just an

566
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: incredible sight to see it. Just it really really was.

567
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: And just think about all the eyeballs that were on

568
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: that game watching that that's going to have a gigantic

569
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: effect in building hockey in the United States with young kids.

570
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 4: It's just it's it's a fact. I mean, there were

571
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 4: so many eyes on that game. And like I mentioned

572
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: when we first started talking Dan at the very beginning,

573
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: the fact that Canada played US, that was all I

574
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: was praying for before the tournament started. My prayers were

575
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: answered because listen, let's be honest. If Canada was playing

576
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: Finland in the gold medal game, or the Americans were

577
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 4: playing the Swedes, it might not have had the same effect, right,

578
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: But the fact that the Americans knocked down the the

579
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: Goliath what everybody calls Goliath, and they beat them far

580
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: and square like that, just that's huge. That's just huge

581
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: for American hockey.

582
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: Have you talked to any of your Canada brothers still

583
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: in the Old Country today? Do you give us a

584
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: convey us a sense of the fear and loathing there?

585
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: I've shot some text though it's been pretty quiet. I'm

586
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: not gonna I'm not gonna lie. Some family members have.

587
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 4: Not a couple have gotten back to me. But most

588
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: of them are, gonna be honest, most of them are

589
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 4: are pretty devastated.

590
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: They live it.

591
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: They live it pretty darn hard up there. Dan, I'm

592
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: telling you, the hockey world up there is just it's different.

593
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: It is just different. And you know, I my mom

594
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: doesn't miss a period of any game, and my dad.

595
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: I actually never even talked to them that day Sunday.

596
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: I waited till this afternoon just so they could calm

597
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: down a little bit. But uh no, they they live

598
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 4: it pretty hard up there. And I haven't had a

599
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: whole lot of court correspondence. I I I just kind.

600
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: Of like leaving them alone.

601
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: That's that's talk about the high road. I'm very impressed.

602
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: I road, for sure, I am very very impressed. All right,

603
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: as you know, the season's gonna get to resume here

604
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. I think the Wild are back Thursday against

605
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: the lanch So I mentioned earlier. You know, the average

606
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: Wild fan or hockey fan in this town, they're feeling

607
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: it right now, right because that was as good as

608
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: it gets. The contributions of Wild players tremendous. It's Billy

609
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Garrant in charge of it. You know what. I know

610
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: that the average rubaut there is going, well, now, he's

611
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: got to make a big move before the trade deadline too.

612
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: He's just got to. He's on a hot streak. He's

613
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: on a roll. So I'm thinking none of that is

614
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 1: going to have any impact on Billy Garran, because Garan's

615
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: gonna do what he's gonna do regardless. But isn't that

616
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: the sense that we're likely to get in town here

617
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: is is this has energized the local hockey community to think,

618
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: why not us? Why not?

619
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: Now? Yeah?

620
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: I mean, of course, Billy, we've talked about this before.

621
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: Billy wants to make a move.

622
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: We know that, but it has to be the right move.

623
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: Like he is not just gonna He's not going to

624
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: pay a dollar thirty on the dollar, a dollar and thirty.

625
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just not going to do that if

626
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: it's a fair deal for both sides. He's gonna look

627
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: at trying to improve the team. And I heard Louie

628
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 4: there talk the other day while I was listening, but

629
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: I saw some of the quotes that he had when

630
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: you were interviewing the other day, and he talked about

631
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: just Louie had talked about him being patient, and I

632
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: couldn't agree more with Louis. And listen, Billy was over

633
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: there for for three weeks with a lot of these

634
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 4: general managers having conversations. He knows the lay of the

635
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: land well better than anybody. He knows what what the

636
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: price is going to be. You know the fact that

637
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure Vincent Trocheck possibly with somebody that

638
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: he was looking at, but now winning a gold medal

639
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: and him winning all these huge face offs. You don't

640
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: think every other team was watching those games. So the

641
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: price for any Trocheck's gone out now says we went

642
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: to gold we win a gold medal now, all of

643
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 4: a sudden, it's going to take an extra second round

644
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: pick because because there's five new teams that think they

645
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 4: can win now, because he's that good in the.

646
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: Face off circle.

647
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 4: So listen, you know, Billy's been around the block. He

648
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 4: wants to improve the team. But it has to make sense.

649
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: He is he any time you're trying to build your team,

650
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to pay a premium. He's aware of that.

651
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: But he ain't gonna sink the ship down the road,

652
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: you know, over three or four years because he wants

653
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: just a little fix during the playoffs. This has to

654
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: make sense to the organization short term and lot long term.

655
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: And listen, let's be honest, and there's a lot of pressure.

656
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure on Billy for sure, either

657
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: whether he stays patient or whether he pulls the trigger

658
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 4: on something.

659
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: There's there's that because you.

660
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 4: Just don't know what's going to become available this summer,

661
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I know Billy Garrett

662
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: can't talk about Jack Hughes or anybody else's. Is Jack

663
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 4: Hughes going to become available this summer?

664
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: We don't.

665
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: We don't know what's going to happen with with with

666
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 4: that scenario. And by the way, his brother happens to

667
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: play for the Minnesota while then they've talked about wanting

668
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 4: to play together and like just so, yeah, it's going

669
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 4: to be fascinating to see how it plays out. I

670
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: would obviously love for them to add maybe a piece

671
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: or two. One area that I really think that they

672
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 4: need to focus on going into the playoffs is potentially

673
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: to find maybe a number five or six defensemen. And

674
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: I know this isn't sexy, it doesn't move the needle

675
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: for a lot of Wild fans, but I know it

676
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 4: would help the team a lot. Is Their penalty kill

677
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 4: this season is something I mean, it's been a problem

678
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: for a while the last three years. Then we've been

679
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 4: in the playoffs. I think last year we gave up

680
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 4: five power play goals in six games.

681
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: These two years.

682
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 4: Before Dallas and Saint Louis we gave up eight and nine.

683
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: The penalty kill has taken us out of the playoffs

684
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 4: the last three years.

685
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Great point.

686
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 4: And I don't know, and I don't have the analytical

687
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: numbers in front of me, but I know there's defensemen

688
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 4: out there that are number five and number six is

689
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: that are big, long, mean defensemen that will have no

690
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: problem playing thirteen fourteen minutes a game and just being

691
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 4: mean around the front of the net, play with long sticks.

692
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: You might not have to give up a whole lot

693
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: to get a couple one of those guys.

694
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: I would love to see just.

695
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 4: Us adding one of those type of defenseman. I know

696
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 4: everyone talks about the centermen, and of course that would

697
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: be an area to improve on too, but kind of

698
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 4: off the beaten path, Dan, That's that's kind of one

699
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 4: thing that I'm thinking about if I was a general manager,

700
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: just looking at this team.

701
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Right now, what do you what have you learned? Is

702
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: anything new about Quinn who's seeing him game after game

703
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: as opposed to when he's just playing for other people

704
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: and maybe you're kind of in and out of it.

705
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: Is there a new appreciation? Is there something that you

706
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: did not realize about him that is kicked in now

707
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: that you get you know, get to see him every night.

708
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: Well, he loves the moment, Dan, he loves he loves

709
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: the big moments. When we traded for him, when we

710
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: traded for Quinn, Rick Talk is a good friend of mine.

711
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: I coached with him in Tampa for a few years,

712
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: and uh Rick Talk had coached Quinn obviously for five

713
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 4: or six years there and in in Vancouver, and knew

714
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: knew him very well. And I said, tell me something

715
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: about this kid that I don't I don't know, he said, Wallsey,

716
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: this kid has you know, He'll watch him play in

717
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 4: a game, but he will save another gear for the

718
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: third period, and when games matter the most, he'll find

719
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: another gear that you you wouldn't think that would be

720
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: in there. And I've watched that. I remember watching in

721
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: the third period. I mean, I think we played I

722
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: think we lost actually in overtime to the New York

723
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: Islanders here maybe about a month ago, and it was

724
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 4: a third period. We were down by one going into

725
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: the third and Quinn Hughes had to puck the whole

726
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: third period.

727
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: In the offense of his own.

728
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 4: It was it was kind of comical to even watch.

729
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 4: But I remembered the conversation that I had with Rick

730
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: Tockett as soon as I saw him doing that, and going,

731
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: that's what Talk's talking about right there. And then obviously

732
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 4: Quinn Hughes scored the big goal in the quarterfinal game

733
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 4: to get the Americans through there so he likes the

734
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: big moment. He's not afraid of the big moment. And

735
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: that's what makes these players special, like Caroll Caprisof and

736
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: Matt Boldie and Quinn Hughes and the other thing I

737
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 4: like Dan two is I don't know if it was

738
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,479
Speaker 4: the first or second shift of the game, Canada dumped

739
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 4: the puck in. I want to say it was actually

740
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: even Tom Wilson. May have been Tom Wilson, might have

741
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: been Ryan Hart, I'm not sure, but one of the

742
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: Canadians was bearing down on him and he just missed

743
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: Quinn Hughes, like just missed him. And we very rarely

744
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 4: see Quince Hughes get hit.

745
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he he didn't.

746
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 4: And I was watching him closely after that because I

747
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: always like to watch because you know, every team when

748
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 4: you play in the Minnesota Wild with Jared Spurgeon and

749
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 4: some of the smaller d bro Dean, we got to hit,

750
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 4: and we got to always watching smaller defenseman in the

751
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: NHL when they get pounded early in a game, how

752
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 4: that or just almost get pounded, how that affects their

753
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 4: game as you move through the game. I saw nothing

754
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: change in his game. He still went back for pocks

755
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 4: like nothing absolutely changed, and watching watching that because I

756
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: mean his life probably flashed in front of him there

757
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 4: for about two seconds, and really nothing from his game

758
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 4: changed at all. He didn't change his angles, the way

759
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: he went back for pucks, he didn't slow down a

760
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 4: little bit and let the other guy go first. Nothing changed.

761
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: So I was watching him very closely, and I'm glad

762
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 4: you asked me that question because I did see some

763
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 4: some pretty intriguing things.

764
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: That's a keen insight because that, Okay, that's a former

765
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: player and a former coach, right, talking about stuff that

766
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: maybe a lot of people don't talk about our analyze

767
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: because it's not it's you know, there's not a statistic

768
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: for that, right, but it's it's telling, right, It's very telling.

769
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: Well, of course it is, because I mean, especially as

770
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 4: smaller defenseman and you know you're going to go back

771
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 4: for pucks, and you know, today compared to fifteen years ago, Dan,

772
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: you can't really hold four checkers up like you get

773
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: looking penalties. You can get in their way a little

774
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: bit and make them skate around you. But you know,

775
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: the smaller defensive guys like Quinn Hughes and I mean,

776
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: I mean his name is Circle. Before every game, especially

777
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 4: in big games in the playoffs, we got to wear

778
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: him down. And you know, you're hoping that some of

779
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 4: these smaller players kind of get worn down. But I

780
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 4: watched his game closely after he almost lost his life,

781
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: like it was. It was a huge it would have

782
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: been a huge hit, and he was able to get

783
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: out of the way at the last minute and nothing

784
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 4: nothing changed from his game. Really says a lot about

785
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: his makeup. And listen, my buddy Rick Talkott there. He's

786
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: a straight shooter. He would have told me you guys

787
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: got foleeshed or he never said anything like that.

788
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: He loves the guy and he said.

789
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 4: Watch his game when it matters most, and that's when

790
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: that's what you all love the most about that kid.

791
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: Tell me about your kid and going to visit.

792
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, well going over to Germany.

793
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

794
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: So he's played over my oldest son. So he'll be

795
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: thirty three here in a couple of weeks. But he's

796
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: been playing over in Yurope, played a couple of years

797
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 4: in Switzerland and the B League, a couple of years

798
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: in France. This is his third year in Germany and

799
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: they've been him and his wife have been over there

800
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: now for three years, and normally they played during the

801
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 4: regular season Friday and Sunday games, and I was talking

802
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: to my wife about potentially.

803
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 3: Going over there.

804
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 4: We could watch two games in the playoffs, so the

805
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: first round started and I've ended up finding out games

806
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: games two, three, and sorry, Games three, four and five

807
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: were Friday, Sunday and Tuesday, so we got a chance

808
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 4: to watch three games over there. We were over there,

809
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 4: my wife and I for seven days. We got a

810
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: chance to go to Dachau, the very first concentration camp,

811
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: which was about an hour and fifteen minute drive, which

812
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: was very, very sobering, and you know, I've been just

813
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: consumed by, you know, watching documentaries and learning more about

814
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: Dachau and kind of some of the things that went

815
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 4: on over.

816
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 3: There in Germany.

817
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 4: And the team that my son was playing, Landsberg in

818
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: the first round that was there's a music.

819
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 3: There's an act of.

820
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 4: Prison still right there and when and when Hitler, and

821
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: I think I think was six years before he became

822
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 4: the chancellor, he got put in jail for treason and that,

823
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: and so that prison is still there, and then the

824
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: Americans took it over after everything was liberated and so

825
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: I had a chance to some of the s S

826
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: soldiers that were actually at Dacau and all a lot

827
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: of the other places, a lot of them as their

828
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: lives there at that actual prison, and there's a there's

829
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: a cemetery that's probably five hundred meters from the actual

830
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: prison Dan with you know, it's very eerie because there's

831
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: only about you know, two hundred and eighty to three

832
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 4: hundred crosses there, but some of the most evil men

833
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: that have ever walked this earth.

834
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: It was kind of eerie.

835
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: So we had a chance to see some really amazing

836
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: sights over there and mixed in some some hockey. And

837
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: then my son lost Game six over there too, so

838
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 4: their season is over. So he'll be home here watching

839
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: wild hockey here in about ten days or so.

840
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: It is great to catch up with you, and we'll

841
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: the as we get closer and closer to a postseason

842
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: that passed to last. Wallsey, it has to last. We

843
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 1: talked about Guardian I talk about this on this show.

844
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: I know I'm identified as a basketball guy, but I'll

845
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: tell you, man, we would love nothing more than to

846
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: have a lengthy, you know, a series of series where

847
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: you get to evaluate adjustments that coaches make and teams

848
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: make and players make. That takes us into May and

849
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: maybe even but beyond. It's got to happen here one

850
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: of these years, man, or people are gonna hockey fans

851
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: are gonna lose their minds in this town.

852
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

853
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 4: Our time is coming, Dan, our time is coming.

854
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: Hang in there, Thanks again, good to catch up. I

855
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Dan, you got it. Wes Wall's excellent work

856
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: from him now of course, former member of the Wild,

857
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: former NHL coach, and also doing great hockey analysis work

858
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: on TV as well. Let's remind you that we have

859
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: al Michaels coming up in about thirty minutes. We've got

860
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: top five and five including Joe Ryan might make Opening Day.

861
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: Do you believe in miracles