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Speaker 1: We are back at the Queen Anne Beer Hall, joining

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Speaker 1: us right now on the radio show. He's a legend

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Speaker 1: in Seattle, He's a legend in Germany. He's a Husky

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, He's a Foeba Hall of Famer, and

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Speaker 1: I believe he should have a spot in Springfield, Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: as well. Our old friend number eleven, Depth of Shrimp,

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Speaker 1: joining us right now on the radio program Debt. How

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Speaker 1: are you pal, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. What's going on there?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're excited, man, we're fired up for this whole

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Speaker 1: sonic thing that came today. I mean, you've you've been

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Speaker 1: a big advocate for this for a long time, and

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Speaker 1: there still is obviously another step to go, which is

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Speaker 1: rubber stampeding this thing.

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Speaker 3: But what was your reaction to today's news man, Oh.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited. Many guys, you know, are the last almost.

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Speaker 4: Ten years, it's been the same story, and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 4: keep us a bay.

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Speaker 2: Now it's suck. We'll think about it, we'll look at.

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Speaker 5: It, we'll analyze it, a committee take another look at it,

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Speaker 5: and you know those things, and now at least we're

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Speaker 5: voted on it, so there's actually a process in place,

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Speaker 5: and I think we can, you know, make a pretty

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Speaker 5: compelling argument that we have we can put a great

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Speaker 5: product together that makes sense for the NBA and won't

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Speaker 5: be a huge value act for the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well that I'm just curious because we had Todd on

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Speaker 1: and I asked him at three o'clock, you know, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean you just tell us, because you know more

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Speaker 1: than we do. Can we start getting excited about this?

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Speaker 1: And he said yes. Are you kind of in that

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Speaker 1: frame of mind that outside of a media orte hitting

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Speaker 1: the earth right and the dinosaur's coming back, that this

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Speaker 1: is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, I think we can.

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Speaker 4: We finally, you know, people have been getting excited for

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Speaker 4: the last ten years every time there was some.

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Speaker 2: Type of an announcement.

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Speaker 4: But I think this is actually where hey, you know,

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Speaker 4: the governing body made a decision yes, let's pursue this, so,

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Speaker 4: you know, let's figure out how we put it together

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Speaker 4: a really good argument that yes, Seattle is the best

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Speaker 4: option at the right price. And I think with everything

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Speaker 4: that's been you know, put together with Samantha Holloway and

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Speaker 4: you obviously Todd in one sports route, one room Sports

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Speaker 4: and entertainment, and what they've done is they put everything.

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Speaker 2: In place, right.

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Speaker 4: They got an ownership group that put together that got

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Speaker 4: climbed the Pledge Arena, which is an amazing facility. It's

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Speaker 4: ready for basketball. Yeah, I think we are.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, we have Basketball City, we.

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Speaker 4: Have the support, we have history, we have you know,

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Speaker 4: the community that really wants to get back on out

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Speaker 4: there and support the Sonics. So I think we're ready

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Speaker 1: Well, Dela Shrimp is with us on the air, and

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Speaker 1: your last year in Seattle was in ninety nine. Your

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Speaker 1: last year in the NBA was in two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean the date you man, that was twenty

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Speaker 1: since you played in the NBA, and the league has

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Speaker 1: changed a lot. It's changed a lot since you played debt.

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Speaker 1: It's changed a lot since the Sonics left in two

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Speaker 3: So for people that maybe kind of.

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Speaker 1: Tuned out a little bit because frankly, they just didn't

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Say first and foremost is, you know, we kind of

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Speaker 2: Know, in their home city.

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Speaker 4: So from that standpoint, I think, you know, I'm excited

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Speaker 4: And then for anyone that's complaining about the game is different,

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Speaker 2: You know. It's like it's like your parents, you know,

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Speaker 4: I look at the positives, how amazing these athletes are,

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Speaker 4: how well to shoot the ball, and and yes they're

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Speaker 4: not every team is worth watching, but they're there are

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Speaker 4: some very good basketball teams still out there.

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Speaker 2: You know, just name a couple like San Antonio, Detroit.

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Speaker 4: You know, Cleveland, even Denvery Now they play good basketball together.

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Speaker 4: And I think we can again put that product here

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Speaker 4: We got to play good basketball and we have a

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Speaker 4: And when we accomplish that, I think people can buy

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Speaker 3: Well, debtlift SHREP is with us.

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Speaker 1: We could just say debtlift debt left because Jackson and

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Speaker 1: I were talking off the year, how many debtlifts do

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, do you know another debtlift

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Speaker 4: By the way, I don't know when, but I've gotten,

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Speaker 4: you know, messages from different people across the world that

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Speaker 2: Social media or you know. Yeah, they're out there, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. Well, thank god there's no other

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Speaker 1: softies besides me. That's a good thing. But debtlof SHREMP

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Speaker 1: is with us. And you mentioned my parents getting mad

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Speaker 3: My parents got mad at me for a lot morese

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Speaker 1: But you're exactly right because I've made the analogy debt

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Speaker 1: But there are debts some folks out there that think

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Speaker 1: even more that we're seeing a lot of blowouts right now.

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Speaker 3: The quality of the game has dropped a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So for people that have that take, what do you

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Speaker 4: And yeah, And I look at the positive for our

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Speaker 4: And you have that in every league where you know

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Speaker 2: I think we have all the pillars and plates to

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Speaker 4: I think the NBA overall will probably have to be

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Speaker 4: in a reassessment of you know, how do you how

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Speaker 2: Right when it's the last month of.

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Speaker 4: how do you make it still competitive and and.

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Speaker 2: At least service the people have spent a fortune on.

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Speaker 4: Season taking it's or sweets or whatever, that they still

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Speaker 4: I can't speak for the whole league, but I think

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean an.

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Speaker 4: Expansion team typically I had a two to three or

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Speaker 2: So again, if you.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's always the point of well, there's some

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Speaker 2: We don't have that right, So yeah, it's just the

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Speaker 1: Well, Della Shrimp is with us, and one of the

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Speaker 1: great things about this is going to be the history.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've never been that concerned about getting our

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Speaker 1: history back quote unquote from Oklahoma City it's our history.

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Speaker 1: the really cool things about this is that a lot

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Speaker 1: you guys all over again. So tell us how much

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Speaker 1: do you talk to the boys, how much do you

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Speaker 1: interact with your old Sonic teammates still?

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Speaker 8: Man, Well, I think we we were always at a

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Speaker 8: once we're all retired, you know, just literally like four

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Speaker 8: years later, you know, the son advantaged a five years

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Speaker 8: later and you know, everyone but me basically.

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Speaker 2: Left town, right right, But we you know, we stay

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Speaker 2: in touch.

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Speaker 4: I talked to I just talked text to with Sam

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Sean will try to stay in touch,

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just keep kind of going back

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Speaker 1: We're gonna gonna break, We're gonna come back and hear

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Speaker 1: No Dick today, Yes, it's true, this man has no

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Speaker 1: Dick hanging out until seven o'clock. If you miss Todd

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Speaker 1: laiwiki hear it again coming up at six. But the

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Speaker 1: big news of the day, boys and girls, have been hell,

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Speaker 1: we got opening day tomorrow. We actually have opening day

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Speaker 1: today in about a half an hour, which is Andrews,

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Speaker 1: why are they doing that no Yankees Giants one game tonight.

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Speaker 3: We're for MLB, where asking me, I mean, if you're doing.

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Speaker 1: One game, why not make it the Blue Jays and

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Speaker 1: Dodgers or whatever, you know, some some kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: like the champions get to play.

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Speaker 3: This is so stupid.

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Speaker 1: The Yankees and Giants is some rarely games exactly are

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Speaker 1: playing in a half an hour from the Bay over

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Speaker 1: on ESPN. So tomorrow Mariners get going against the Guardians. Tanner, Bibi,

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Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert at seven to ten h We got the

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Speaker 1: JSN press conference today.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's even talking about that.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks had of press conference today with John Stei McDonald

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Speaker 1: and Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Smith and JIGBA.

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Speaker 1: But the big news for at least for me, and

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Speaker 1: we could all disagree if you want, that's fine. I

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Speaker 1: think the most impactful thing today is what came out

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Speaker 1: of the NBA Board of Governor's press conference today in

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Speaker 1: New York City. Adam Silver, NBA Commissioner, will start anders

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Speaker 1: with the clip number three on the Board of Governor's

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Speaker 1: concerns about expansion if they're already and considerations with expansion

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Speaker 1: and the timeline for new teams in Seattle and Vegas.

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Speaker 3: Check this out on.

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Speaker 10: Expansion, Can you share if there was any concerns. I mean,

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Speaker 10: you've talked about this and it is a complicated thing

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Speaker 10: selling equity in the league. We all understand that if

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Speaker 10: there was any concern that any owner's expressed, and to

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Speaker 10: that end, I know it's just happened. What's a logical

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Speaker 10: timeline You probably won't commit to one. I get that,

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Speaker 10: but what what are the logical next steps and what's

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Speaker 10: the hope as far as how long this part of

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Speaker 10: the process might take.

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Speaker 11: Sure tim there weren't concerns, I will say, in a

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Speaker 11: way weren't a good situation because there are some owners

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Speaker 11: who felt that we just frankly don't need to expand,

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Speaker 11: so they didn't necessarily see concern with going forward. But

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Speaker 11: fell we're in a very solid place with the thirty

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Speaker 11: team league we have now. I think there Seattle and

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Speaker 11: Las Vegas in terms of their history and supportive NBA

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Speaker 11: basketball are unique in terms of available markets in the

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Speaker 11: US right now. No knock on any other markets. Those

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Speaker 11: are just the markets were focused on. So I think

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Speaker 11: there was a discussion about, of course delution economically and

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Speaker 11: delution talent wise. So again I wouldn't put that in

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Speaker 11: the category of concern It more went in the category

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Speaker 11: of considerations. But it's also why just to make that distinction,

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Speaker 11: we didn't announce today we are expanding. We announced that

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Speaker 11: we're exploring expanding. And part of exploring expanding means I mean, one,

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Speaker 11: of course, there's the economic implications of what's the value

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Speaker 11: of that franchise. Those four franchises will ultimately be determined

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Speaker 11: by the market, and the league has to make an

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Speaker 11: assessment whether it's then worth it to go forward at

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Speaker 11: those valuations. But I think they care a lot about

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Speaker 11: who their potential partner or partners might be, and then

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Speaker 11: particular situations in each market, like what arena would we

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Speaker 11: play in, you know, what our plans are, people looking

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Speaker 11: at other arenas, All those things are part of the

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Speaker 11: consideration set. So the discussion today and in the meetings

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Speaker 11: leading up today went more to our right, what are

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Speaker 11: all the factors that we'll look at, And then ultimately

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Speaker 11: the view is you could explore expansion more softly by

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Speaker 11: just having conversations. But certainly it was my view and

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Speaker 11: others that we owe it to these markets to be

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Speaker 11: transparent and to be more formal with our approach to

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Speaker 11: that so that everybody feels they have a fair shot.

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Speaker 11: There's an investment banker, there's people at the League office

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Speaker 11: working on this. And so if you are interested, and

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Speaker 11: I'll say that now to people who may be listening

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Speaker 11: or watching this, if you're interested, called the League Office,

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Speaker 11: called PGAT Partners directly in New York. There's and just

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Speaker 11: want to make sure everybody understands there's been no handshakes

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Speaker 11: on the side. There's been no commitments, there's been no

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Speaker 11: promises to anyone. This is this is a completely transparent process.

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Speaker 11: Nothing is set in stone right now. Timeline you know,

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Speaker 11: as I said before, our goal was in twenty twenty

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Speaker 11: six to resolve this issue one way or the other.

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Speaker 11: So I my timeline, you know we weren't so specific

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Speaker 11: with the board, is that we need to know by

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Speaker 11: the end of this calendar year what it is we're doing.

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Speaker 11: It may not be that, you know, every eye has dotted,

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Speaker 11: but that would be our goal this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there may not have been a handshake, but there

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Speaker 1: was a fist pump at some point. Maybe they tapped heads.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, maybe they hugged it out something

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Speaker 1: like that. But you know, look, I mean he's obviously

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Speaker 1: a little cya mode. You know, he's saying all the

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Speaker 1: right things, you know, all the all the cliches and

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Speaker 1: all the legal ease and all that and blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just trying to remember in my head how

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Speaker 1: often the NBA or any other league, where is there

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Speaker 1: another situation where a league comes out and says, all right,

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Speaker 1: we have identified two towns that we want to go to.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna mention two cities by name, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: limit it to just those two cities. And then they

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Speaker 1: don't go to those cities.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is so far down the road it's

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Speaker 1: almost impossible for me to imagine it not happening.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, again, this is absolutely booked at this point. And

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Speaker 6: I think Adam Silver is just like Todd l Wick

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Speaker 6: can't get ahead of the NBA. Adam Silver can't get

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Speaker 6: ahead of his owners. Of course, at the end of that,

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Speaker 6: he works for his owners, right, And I don't think

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Speaker 6: he's going to push expansion that hard publicly, just because

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Speaker 6: there are some owners James Dolan, who definitely don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Expand yeah, I think in the end they'll be on

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Speaker 3: the same page.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's kind of how these things go, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: you have some you have some dissonance, you know that

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Speaker 1: aren't that aren't in favor of it. You have some

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Speaker 1: people that aren't on board. And then by the end

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Speaker 1: of the day they say, look, let's just get everybody

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Speaker 1: on the same page so we can keep up appearances

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Speaker 1: and we'll all do this together. All right, we have

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Speaker 1: time for one more. What do you want to do?

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Speaker 1: We want to get some text.

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Speaker 3: What do you want to do?

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Speaker 6: Let's let's get number four, number four, like what Daniels said.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chris Daniels, Komo was out there today. Here's

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Speaker 1: the voice of Chris Daniels, and let's face it, maybe

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Speaker 1: the best question of the day at the NBA Board

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Speaker 1: of Governor's press efforts.

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Speaker 12: We all know what happened eighteen years ago, and the

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Speaker 12: past is prologued to this. Since the team moved, both

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Speaker 12: Amazon and Microsoft are now two of the most wealthiest

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Speaker 12: companies in the country. Amazon is now a partner for you.

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Speaker 12: We know about all the NBA players that have moved

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Speaker 12: from Seattle. Tens of thousands of people have moved to

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Speaker 12: Seattle since the franchise left. So the question is what

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Speaker 12: does the city of Seattle have to do to prove

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Speaker 12: itself in this process, and do you expect multiple bidders,

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Speaker 12: whether it's in Seattle or Las Vegas.

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Speaker 11: I do expect that there will be multiple bidders, and

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Speaker 11: I don't think it's about anything specific that the city

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Speaker 11: of Seattle needs to do. As you say, we have

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Speaker 11: strong business partners there. I travel there frequently. The Storm

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Speaker 11: have had great success in Seattle. It's just a wonderful market,

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Speaker 11: and on top of that enormous economic growth around technology.

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Speaker 11: I think it has more to do with who comes

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Speaker 11: forward as the potential owner, understanding the arena situation, understanding

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Speaker 11: the economics, because putting aside what somebody is willing to

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Speaker 11: pay for the franchise, we want to make sure they're

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Speaker 11: in a position to be successful, and whether that means

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Speaker 11: sharing a building, you know, with the hockey team, or

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Speaker 11: whatever arrangement is put forward. That's what I meant before.

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Speaker 11: When our team owners are on one hand, they're compete

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Speaker 11: like crazy on the court, but then they're all partners.

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Speaker 11: And I think part of the issues we'll be looking

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Speaker 11: at is will we be putting a team in position

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Speaker 11: to be successful in Seattle. I mean, I see no

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Speaker 11: reason standing here today why that shouldn't be the case.

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Speaker 11: But we're going to work through this process.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, I think he's going as far as

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Speaker 1: he can possibly go without saying it's done. Right, He's

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Speaker 1: literally telling you what's done without saying it's done.

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Speaker 3: And I love it. I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: And I also think that you know the point about

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Speaker 1: you know, when he when Chris asked, what more can

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Speaker 1: they do, and He's like, really nothing. I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: got the arena, you have the ownership group put in place,

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Speaker 1: you have the guy in LWICKI that everybody around the

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Speaker 1: sports world respects, which is why I kind of laugh.

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Speaker 3: Guys. I don't know if you two have that same

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Speaker 3: response that I do.

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Speaker 1: But every time I see some bozo politician trying to

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Speaker 1: jump on social media talking about how it's my dream

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Speaker 1: to have those two come back, you know what, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing else you can do. All right, it's already been done.

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Speaker 1: All right, zip it nerd Okay, honestly, give credit to Todd,

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Speaker 1: like all of these politicians that are trying to jump

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Speaker 1: on the train here, take some credit for this, you know,

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Speaker 1: build up a couple of percentage points in the polls.

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Speaker 1: What Pians do. There's nothing to be done. There's nothing

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Speaker 1: to be done. There is literally nothing, I believe tangibly

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Speaker 1: that Bob Ferguson or is it Katie Wilson, is that right?

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Speaker 1: Nothing that they can do that will make a hill

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Speaker 1: beans difference. Maybe there's a conversation between Fergie and Adam

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Speaker 1: about the millionaire's tax that he just wants to know

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Speaker 1: some details on whatever, you know, just to turn over

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Speaker 1: every rock.

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Speaker 3: Okay, fine, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Like the tax either, but I'm not worried about it

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Speaker 1: affecting the Sonics at all. Okay, So I just think

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Speaker 1: that that is that that kind of irritates me because

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Speaker 1: it was the politicians in the end that created this

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Speaker 1: mess in the first place. When Todd was on the

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Speaker 1: air with us and You're here it again at six pm,

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Speaker 1: he didn't mention the guy by name, but he mentioned

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Speaker 1: Nick Lakotta, who was the one that said the Sonics

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Speaker 1: bring virtually no cultural value to the city. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you think Nick Lakota's legacy is, but it's

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Speaker 1: a legacy of him being an idiot, is what the

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Speaker 1: legacy is. And he is righting or wrong that was

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Speaker 1: created by clowns like Nick Locatta. Okay, so when clowns

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Speaker 1: today in politics try to jump on and take credit

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Speaker 1: for this, it's disgusting and it's gross, and it's got

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Speaker 1: to stop because people see right through your bs man.

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Speaker 1: This is about Todd Liwiki, all right, Bruce Harrel, maybe

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Speaker 1: give us some credit to him a little bit, the

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Speaker 1: previous mayor, but this is Todd l Wiki because those

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Speaker 1: guys came to Seattle when the City Council and King

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Speaker 1: County Council told everybody we're not giving you a dime

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Speaker 1: for a new arena and Oakview and Lwiki's group and

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Speaker 1: Bonnerman said, fine, we'll pay for it ourselves. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna break. We got on Tech's next segment, textimonials. Get

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Speaker 1: some of your thoughts, Andrews back in the studio. We're

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Speaker 1: here at Queen Anne Beer Hall. We'll do some talkbacks

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Speaker 1: as well. I want you to jump on the talkback

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Speaker 1: mike on the app. Leave us a little message and

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Speaker 1: tell us if you're buying in now are you ready?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready now to jump in with two feet

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Speaker 1: and start losing your mind. We'll do those at five

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Speaker 1: point thirty coming up on ninety three three KJRFM,