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Speaker 1: moving forward. Numero Uno the worst, drafted Kenny Pickett in

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Speaker 1: the first round in twenty twenty two. Only Tomlin wanted

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Speaker 1: have done it, not in the first round. That mistake

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Speaker 1: on that pick set the Steelers back five years. In

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Speaker 1: Number three traded a first round pick for Minka in

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Speaker 1: where Ben got hurt popped his elbow in Week two and.

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Speaker 2: They could have tanked to get Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Instead, they went eight to eight with Duck and Rudolph

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Speaker 2: Number four.

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Speaker 1: Traded up to draft Roderick Jones in the first round

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Speaker 2: Then they totally mangled him.

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Speaker 1: For the sake of ham and Egger Dan Moore Junior,

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Speaker 2: Then he played at right tackle again.

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Speaker 1: Then Jones finally got the left tackle this past season

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Speaker 1: in a position to fail. Here is bad decision number five.

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Speaker 1: Have we gone past the intro music? That's a lot

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Speaker 1: of bad decisions number five. The Steelers could have franchised TJ. Watt,

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Speaker 1: But if he ain't playing good, and he didn't this

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Speaker 2: Instead.

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Speaker 1: It's really hard for them to get out from under

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Speaker 2: Watt is not number six.

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Speaker 1: The bonus mistake they gave DK metcalf number one wide

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Speaker 1: as proven by the fact that Seattle ditched them and

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Speaker 1: somehow won the Super Bowl without him. Yes, that's six

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Speaker 1: grievous mistakes made by the Steelers since twenty nineteen. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not even including the smaller mistakes like Mitch Trubisky,

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Speaker 1: like Russ, like a whole bunch of bad draft picks.

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Speaker 1: My point being it's not a good organization. These are

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Speaker 1: all incredibly damaging mistakes made in a short window, and

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are not to be trusted with their decision

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Speaker 1: making moving forward. I would like your thoughts on any

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Speaker 1: of your all of what I just said, for calls

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Speaker 2: How can you hear.

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Speaker 1: That litany of failure and think this team knows what

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Speaker 1: it's doing. Tell me how you know, Tell me I'm fat,

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Speaker 1: tell me I'm full of crap, But tell me how

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Speaker 1: you can hear what I just said and think this

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Speaker 2: Like meh is the targets. We can talk Buccos.

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Speaker 1: We got John Perada, America's most dangerous baseball writer. He

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Speaker 1: joins me to talk Bucos at four PM. Donnie Kelly

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Speaker 1: gave a talk to the Pirates and what appear to

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati was the greatest moment in Pittsburgh sports history.

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Speaker 2: I heard dude say it.

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Speaker 1: It's not even top ten, it might not be top

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Speaker 1: thirteen through fifteen Pirates. We'll talk about all this with

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Speaker 1: Parada because I talk real. I think they're better. I

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Speaker 2: And here's where you got fooled again because you're stupid.

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Speaker 1: But this is at least cleverly exploiting that stupidity on

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Speaker 2: You'll eat it up like champagne and caviar.

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Speaker 1: You're just so easy to fool when it comes to

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Speaker 2: So Greg Gatuoso, good football guy. Not only were going

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Speaker 1: And here's what's gonna happen. None of you will call

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Speaker 1: because you know I'm right. You know the roonies don't

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Speaker 1: I think you're onto something the X at one five nine,

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Speaker 2: What a great day here in the studio.

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Speaker 1: We got Sweeden versus Latvia Olympic hockey on one TV.

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Speaker 1: the a failure since twenty nineteen six. Grievously bad decisions

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Speaker 1: you what was really dumb. There was no reason whatsoever

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Speaker 1: I still can't get over that Steven A. Smith is

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Speaker 2: Smith appears to be serious. Yikes, I mean, what would

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Speaker 2: his platform be? Who it is running?

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Speaker 1: May be slab Adenko, not a US citizen.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Harry. Harry, you're wrong with Mark.

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Speaker 3: He probably have a bus of me Vice president anyway. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I was wondering. I just think it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: Well, no, they have McCarthy in there, but you're right,

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Speaker 1: they still have the bean Connor as the con artist

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Speaker 1: It trickles down from ownership.

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Speaker 3: a bunch of wasted money to TJ. Watt Right, basically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a rooney decision.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what con would have decided, but a

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Speaker 1: In the greatest game. There is always a pleasure to

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Speaker 3: I think the United States would. I think Connor Hallibuck's

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Speaker 1: Pierre Maguire rocked to us by always say flagging and

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Speaker 1: Who would have the physical edge and how much will

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Speaker 3: Physicality will matter a lot. It's because the referees are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Canada's spread out. And if you were to

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Speaker 3: You know what, I think it's probably pretty even. And

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Speaker 3: of that. And I'll tell you another guy that's not

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Speaker 3: a big fan of that, John Tortorella, and he stands

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Speaker 3: right next to Mike Sullivan. So yeah, no, it's a

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Speaker 3: great point. It's very very viable. But that being said,

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Speaker 3: I would tell you that upper management for the Americans,

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Speaker 3: Billy Billy Garrett in particular, he was part of a

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Speaker 3: major matchup group and they were Stanley Cups in New Jersey,

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Speaker 3: and he understands the value of matchup. So I think

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Speaker 3: as a group they would be talking about that.

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Speaker 1: Give me an unsung hero for the US and Canada

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Speaker 1: so far, one freaks team Pierre.

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Speaker 3: Oh Brock Nelson for the United States. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: playing so deep in the lineup. He's been fantastic. I

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Speaker 3: made that point last night on NBC Digital NBC Sports Digital.

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Speaker 3: He's been phenomenal the whole tournament. I can't say enough

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Speaker 3: good things about the way he's played. And on the

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Speaker 3: Canadian side, there's so many, but I would say probably

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Speaker 3: Mark Stone. Mark Stone's been so good scloring, timely goals,

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Speaker 3: insulating sid and Myner, excellent on the power play. Everybody

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Speaker 3: knows he's just the beast. He's a big guy. He

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Speaker 3: doesn't look really pretty out there, but he's really good.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me bounce a couple of names off you, Pierre.

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Speaker 1: My guy for Canada is Thomas Harley on defense. I mean,

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Speaker 1: guys me and you know who he is, but I

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Speaker 1: think he's kind of announced his presence in these games.

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Speaker 3: He did, but he was really good the Four Nations.

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Speaker 3: The problem is, like I'll give you an example, so

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Speaker 3: fans will hear you and I say that, and then

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Speaker 3: they'll look at the score sheet from the France game

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Speaker 3: and he was dashed to and tend to win, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean. So no, you're right, I agree

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Speaker 3: with you. Harley's been very good. He's a very good player.

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Speaker 3: He can score. He really knows when to jump into

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Speaker 3: the rush. He's a big body. He's just getting better

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Speaker 3: all the time. It's a fair point. It's a good call.

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Speaker 1: And my US guys, Jake Gonseil, I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: quite on the score sheet as much as his play dictates,

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Speaker 1: but that tends to be cumulative. It wouldn't shock me

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Speaker 1: to see him get on the score sheet a few

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Speaker 1: times before tournaments in that.

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Speaker 3: Line's been getting better every single day. So you talk

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Speaker 3: about Gensel, Matt Boldie and Matthews and so just to

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Speaker 3: get put a perspective on what you're saying. The last

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Speaker 3: game they played against Denmark, Matt Boldy had eight shots

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Speaker 3: on net for Team USA. And Gensel and Matthews were

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Speaker 3: a big part of that. So you're absolutely right. That

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Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me at all to see Jake obviously get

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Speaker 3: on the scoreboard sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: Is this the best Canada team since nineteen eighty seven

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Speaker 1: when Lemieue and Gretzky skater on the same line.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was the best line that I had ever

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Speaker 3: seen with Michell Gulay. It was Gretzky, Lemieu and Gulet.

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Speaker 3: That line was crazy good. When they play that super

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Speaker 3: line together with McKinnon, McDavid and Celebrini, I'll tell you what, Mark,

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Speaker 3: I have never seen a line with that much speed

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Speaker 3: and that much ability to score off the rustling these

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Speaker 3: guys do. And the game's way different now. Obviously there's

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Speaker 3: a red line that's come out so you can make

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Speaker 3: that two line pass. Back when Mario was playing with

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Speaker 3: Wayne and Michelle, you had the red lines thill so

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Speaker 3: you couldn't make that stretch pass. So it is probably

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Speaker 3: one of the best lines I've seen since that line.

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Speaker 3: But I think the best Canadian team I've seen, to

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Speaker 3: be fair, was probably the twenty ten Olympic year. Sydney's

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Speaker 3: golden goal against the Americans. That team was really good,

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Speaker 3: and what you have to do is look at all

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Speaker 3: the Hall of famers on defense, starting with Pronger and Niedermeyer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Dowdy's eventually going to get in the Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame. It was just a fantastic team. It really was.

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Speaker 3: Brodure's in the Hall of Fame. La Loongo's in the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. You know the two goalies they had.

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Speaker 3: Marc Andre Fleury was a third string goalie on that team.

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Speaker 3: He's probably going to the Hall of Fame. Like you

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Speaker 3: look at that twenty ten team. Now the hecking of team.

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Speaker 1: Mark Pierre, I think the US can give Canada a

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Speaker 1: great game, and I think they're capable of winning. Would

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Speaker 1: Shock give Canada routed them, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'd route them. I think the American

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Speaker 3: really Americans can really give them a good game. A

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Speaker 3: lot of it depends on whether they played five on

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Speaker 3: five or not. If it's if it's a lot of

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Speaker 3: power play, penalty kill situation in Canada dominates in terms

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Speaker 3: of being on the power play, then I think the

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Speaker 3: potential for blowout is there. But if it's a five

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Speaker 3: on five game, and usually they are in goal medal games,

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Speaker 3: then I would think the US as a legitimate chance

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Speaker 3: to win.

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Speaker 1: Between But excuse me, besides the Sweden US game, which

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Speaker 1: of the quarterfinal games has most potential? Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: Sweden USA. I mean if Sweden won, it would be

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Speaker 1: a small upset. Any upsets possible in the other three quarterfinals,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: I think Finland's doing what I kind of thought they

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Speaker 3: would do, and that's kind of takeoff. I don't see

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Speaker 3: anybody beating Canada in the quarterfinal. I'd be really surprised

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Speaker 3: by that. So I would say, no, I don't expect

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Speaker 3: any upset. Maybe, like you said, it's so. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say I'm fair, because that's too strong a word. Man.

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Speaker 3: The Americans don't deserve to play Sweden in the next round.

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Speaker 3: They just don't. If Sweden holds on to beat Lappey

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Speaker 3: and they're up to nothing right now and they're pretty

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Speaker 3: much dominating, you're on the power play as we just

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Speaker 3: finished the end of the first period.

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Speaker 1: Well, then if Sweden wins, then they recede and that

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Speaker 1: have to play. That have to play. They'd have to

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Speaker 1: play Canada in the semifinals. They have to run the gauntlet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be bavage for them. But right now,

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Speaker 3: I just did a thing for over in Sweden before

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Speaker 3: I came on with you, and I'm dumbfounded by some

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Speaker 3: of the roster decisions they've made with the sweetest team

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Speaker 3: playing today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why why they do that?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea Rasmus and Anderson not playing this

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Speaker 3: game in the previous game. Uh, Philip Forsburg only playing

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Speaker 3: about two shifts in the first couple of games seven minutes.

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Speaker 3: I think there are eight minutes as the most he's

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Speaker 3: played the whole tournament. I mean, they've done some really

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Speaker 3: strange things, but they're up to nothing, so maybe they

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Speaker 3: had a rhyme and reason. And they also set you know,

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Speaker 3: Gusson out today. He's not even dressed, so I don't

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Speaker 3: know what they're doing. It's kind of a strange deal.

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Speaker 1: Finally, Pierre, it's picked him time. Who do you got

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Speaker 1: Who's gonna win gold?

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not not, because I'm in the United

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Speaker 3: States right now, but I think the United States is

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Speaker 3: gonna win. I really do. I think Cana's got a

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Speaker 3: really good team. I were wry about their defense, and

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Speaker 3: I really worry about their goal iending, I really do.

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Speaker 3: I just I've watched Dinnington a lot this year, and

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Speaker 3: I know he was getting the four Nations, but I

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Speaker 3: just I worry. I saw two bad goals against France,

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Speaker 3: and I just worry about where his brain is right now.

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Speaker 3: In terms of confidence, I think the American if they

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Speaker 3: can get by Sweden, I think they can. They can

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Speaker 3: run the gauntlet and win the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Beierre great insight as always, enjoy the hockey, and we'll

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Speaker 1: recap it next week.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait. Mark thanks a lot. And I know

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Speaker 3: those Penguin players are back in Pittsburgh and they're jacked

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Speaker 3: up the practice. I know that that's good.

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