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Speaker 1: And as we do every Tuesday, right around this time,

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Speaker 1: we go to Rich Dumurow, kfi's tech guy, heard every

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Speaker 1: Saturday right here on KFI eleven am to two pm.

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Speaker 1: He's on KTLA TV everyday, Instagram at rich on tech website,

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Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot TV.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Bill.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: We start with a really interesting story about Australia. Now

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Speaker 1: we've been talking and I was just the entire world's

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Speaker 1: been talking, particularly us. Here we hear about a social

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Speaker 1: media band, I mean outright media ban for kids. Australia

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Speaker 1: has just picked that one up and it's actually there.

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Speaker 4: You want to talk about that, please.

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Speaker 3: This is the biggest fear of the US tech companies

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Speaker 3: what they're doing in Australia, because in the US, you know,

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Speaker 3: we don't really have a lot of regulations around this stuff.

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Speaker 3: And so all the tech companies, like the Tiktoks of

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Speaker 3: the world, the metas, the Instagrams, they have all tried

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Speaker 3: to make their own parental rules, right, and I'm putting

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Speaker 3: up air quotes because they're trying. But the reason they're

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Speaker 3: trying is because they don't want the US government to

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Speaker 3: do anything about this. They want to be in charge. Well,

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Speaker 3: in Australia they said, you know what, enough is enough,

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Speaker 3: And on Wednesday there is no more social media for

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Speaker 3: children under sixteen.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: So more than a million accounts are going to be

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Speaker 3: shut down on Wednesday. These platforms including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,

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Speaker 3: Facebook x, Snapchat, Reddit, they all have to take reasonable

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Speaker 3: steps to make sure that kids under sixteen cannot open

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Speaker 3: old accounts or i'll say face fines.

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Speaker 1: Now the word you said is reasonable attempts.

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Speaker 4: Uh, let's get into that.

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Speaker 2: I love you the lawyer coming out.

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Speaker 1: Right, because all I can think of, Okay, I'm a

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Speaker 1: fourteen year old and I'm gonna lie, are you sixteen?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah i am, but I'm not right and they're

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Speaker 3: already doing that, by the way. So basically, here's that's

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Speaker 3: what's happened in America over the past you know, ten

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Speaker 3: the technology. Right, sign everyone up, get everyone signed up.

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Speaker 3: So every parent sign up, their kids, let their kids

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Speaker 3: that says how old are you? Parent? Goes, I'll just

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Speaker 3: now what's happening is all these companies are starting to

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Speaker 3: we've realized that this child is closer to thirteen than

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Speaker 3: now we're going to retro change that and you have

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Speaker 2: All right. This is happening on Google too.

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Speaker 3: People are getting notifications on Google saying, hey, your account

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Speaker 3: looks like you're under eighteen or twenty one or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You have to verify you are who you say you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry interrupt, But the first thing that came to

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Speaker 1: You know? What is is it an algorithm that has

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Speaker 3: Like Roadblocks is taking a visual scan of kids' faces,

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Speaker 4: Why do you do that to rich He doesn't want

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Speaker 4: to stand next to that. Yeah, well I have to

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Speaker 4: throw it. I have to throw it at him because he.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't get this stuff on his on his other shows

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Speaker 2: Oh, I certainly do not.

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Speaker 1: One of the things, just real quickly before we take

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in their best interest to not have the guardrails.

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Speaker 2: If you've noticed, yep.

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Speaker 1: And now it is a holiday season upon us and

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Speaker 1: we are buying still very strong. I mean, sales, particularly

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I guess my first tip is really for Amazon,

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Speaker 1: And then return policy go to ups because lindsay by

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Speaker 3: Tell you your return is not completely done until Amazon

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not all right. Two sites

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Speaker 3: Deal News another one, but they use editors. Simply Codes

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Speaker 3: best ways to do that. I know we'll run out

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Speaker 1: That sounds absolutely great. What are TVs a bargain computers?

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Speaker 3: I think all of it. I mean, I know we've

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Speaker 2: So TVs are a good deal.

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Speaker 3: Laptops, I mean, I'm seeing a lot of deals on laptops,

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Speaker 3: in fact, slick deals which I mentioned. People are asking

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Speaker 3: list of the best deals going at slick deals, you

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Speaker 3: can get even Apple's latest MacBook Air for like seven

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Speaker 3: really seeing a lot of discounts on these things. Working

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Speaker 3: up a list as well on my website. I've got

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Speaker 3: like the top ten gadgets people are buying this year,

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Speaker 3: and almost all of them are discounted.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's the website is Rich on tech dot TV. Rich.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. We'll catch you on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Bill Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'll catch you on Saturday. I just think

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Joel Saturday, eleven am to two pm.

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Speaker 2: Rich.

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Speaker 1: You have a good one, Okay. Happy happy holidays, even

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Speaker 1: though I'm going to talk to you before the holidays officially,

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Speaker 1: all right,