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Speaker 3: Well, So the Guthrie kidnapping, Savannah Guthrie's mother, now they're

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Speaker 3: getting things are coming out slowly, being released, very slowly.

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Speaker 3: Apparently neighbors did see a mysterious white van before the

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Speaker 3: you have her. Somebody's got to watch her, somebody's got

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Speaker 3: A van obviously makes it a lot easier for a kidnapping.

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Speaker 3: So they did spot it. They're not saying exactly why,

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Speaker 3: but they believe it was targeted. They believe the kidnappers

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Speaker 3: knew who this woman was, knew that it was Savannah

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Speaker 3: Guthries mother. Now you got to figure that they thought

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Speaker 3: that that meant to be more money to get out

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Speaker 3: would think where kidnappers look for the relative of a

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Speaker 3: very famous, wealthy person, but it has happened before. Frank

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Speaker 3: Sinatra's son, the most famous case, but members Calvin Klein too.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy eight. Calvin Klein, who was as big as

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Speaker 3: could be back then, they kidnapped his daughter Marcy. She

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Speaker 3: But that was over pretty fast. I think about twelve

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Speaker 3: hours later they found her. They did pay one hundred

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen as often as you'd think, so

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Speaker 3: we'll keep following the story for you. Hey, Scott Besson,

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Speaker 3: great job yesterday testifying. Actually was the day before Scott

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Speaker 3: But he was great. Then Elizabeth Warren is the question

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Speaker 3: we played to the ones yesterday, the nutjobs like Elizabeth

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Speaker 3: Warren yelling and screaming at him. Warren was more calm,

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Speaker 3: the Warren Biden economy. Listen to this, So let me

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not saying that affordability what's happening to

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Speaker 3: He is saying that trying to lay the blame at

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Speaker 3: He kept repeating that Althrough's testimony the Biden Warren economy,

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Speaker 3: Bessett revealing things going on in Iran. You know, the revolution,

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Speaker 3: So hey, a lot of fighting about the shutdown, stuff

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Speaker 3: It's Jim Crow. You know, I don't think he knows.

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Speaker 4: What they're trying to do here is the same thing

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Speaker 4: This is vicious and nasty. What the hell is this

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Speaker 4: Bloomenthal making the same speech. You people in Connecticut don't

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Speaker 4: So super Bowl this Sunday. Bad Bunny is the President.

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Speaker 3: Why be sitting there? The White House Press Secretary Caroline

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Speaker 3: Levitt was asked about this.

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Speaker 3: three o'clock today, head to Florida. Missed the bitter cold weekend.

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Speaker 3: At mar A Lago. They always have a big super

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Speaker 3: getting a lot of flack, a lot of flack. Now,

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Speaker 3: You want to have Bruce Blakeman wh November. He's got

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Speaker 3: That's why she picked this real left wing lunatic, Adrian

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Speaker 3: of governors have had to lead. From Spitzer to Cuomo.

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Speaker 3: a now. Hokeel finally got because she caved in, did

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Speaker 1: of how Governor Hochele is leading this state, and that

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Speaker 1: leadership has included transforming the relationship between the city and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds very good what he just said. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the hell he said. Does that mean,

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Speaker 3: that means is she'll do whatever the hell he wants.

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Speaker 3: Now he controls her. Now this is bad news because

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Speaker 3: he wants to raise taxes. The mayor doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: that means they've made some kind of deal, which means

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Speaker 3: It's the best book ever on Johnny Carson. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: To the Mark Simon show on WOR.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's take some calls. Oh, let's go to this.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing fine.

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Speaker 3: Were you mad at me? Did I do something wrong?

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Speaker 3: Did I say something wrong? No?

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Speaker 5: Maybe sometimes we disagree on minus things that would That's

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Speaker 3: But that means that you would not date a woman

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Speaker 5: No, No, absolutely, absolutely not. That's not my style. And

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Speaker 5: But yeah, they got that phone off the table in

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Speaker 3: Well, Vincent, I'm glad you're back. Are you're sure you're

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Speaker 3: not mad? Nothing? No, no, I apologize whatever it might

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Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that very much. And I'm not a

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Speaker 6: Gideon, how you doing, Hey, Mark, good and thanks to you.

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Speaker 6: I read Love Johnny Carson. What a great book for

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Speaker 6: gotten Sake.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the best book there on Late Night on Johnny Carson.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to the author.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, you're quoted throughout it, of course. But my favorite quote,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. And what I was saying was, you know,

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Speaker 3: like that guy, who the hell wants to be him?

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Speaker 3: But then you see Johnny Carson, that's the kind of

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Speaker 3: adult I want to be. Yes, yes, all right, well,

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Speaker 3: thanks for calling. Uh, it's a great book. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: to the author next. Now. I was like the Johnny

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Speaker 3: podcasts Mark Malkoff and read the book. I learned fifty

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Speaker 3: thousand things I never knew. This guy has uncovered everything

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Speaker 3: about Johnny Carson. He does the Carson Podcast. There's six

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Speaker 3: wor you're.

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Speaker 1: Listening to the Mark Simone Show on.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hey, there's a book you have to get. It's

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Speaker 3: the definitive best book ever written about Johnny Carson. It's

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Speaker 3: called Love Johnny Carson. Just get this book, trust me,

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Speaker 3: you love it. The book's called Love Johnny Carson. It's

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Speaker 3: by Mark Malcoff, who for the past few years has

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Speaker 3: get the new book called Love Johnny Carson. The author

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Speaker 3: is well us right now, Mark Malkoff, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: Mark, I'm doing great. Nice to talk to you, sir.

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Speaker 3: Hey. Now here's the problem. You have a lot of

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Speaker 3: TV people today, talk show hosts, but they're just kind

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Speaker 2: We I don't think so. I mean everyone in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's a good point. The reason you waited

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Speaker 3: What's the lates to do.

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Speaker 2: It's really different. He liked to not really take He

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Speaker 2: you something. George W. Herbert Walker Bush when he was president.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there were a lot of presidents.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That was actually produced by Frank Sinatra, and whatever

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Speaker 2: The Reagans loved Johnny. But Nancy Reagan did call up

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Speaker 5: It was true.

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Speaker 2: It was the dreams. I mean there was unknown Freddy

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Speaker 2: and this was their dream. I mean they had some

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Speaker 2: of them had tears in their eyes telling me this

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Speaker 2: story about what Johnny meant to them the country. Not

432
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Speaker 2: only that, but the young comedians. In between commercials and

433
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Speaker 2: after the show, Johnny sometimes would get them punch ups

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Speaker 2: on their materials to improve their jokes into a young

435
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Speaker 2: comic that is like Santa Claus. I mean that you

436
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Speaker 2: can't ask for a gift better than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a big feature of the Tonight Show

438
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Speaker 3: seeing the latest, newest best comics. Where did that stop?

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Speaker 3: I guess it was Leno that stopped doing that on

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Speaker 3: the Tonight Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jays noticed that the ratings were going down when

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Speaker 2: they had committe stand ups, so they really stopped doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's I really feel like with David Letterman on CBS,

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Speaker 2: the Great Romano was the big person that got famous

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Speaker 2: through that. But yeah, it's a shame that nothing like

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Speaker 2: that exists. I really do miss Johnny Carson being in

447
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Speaker 2: New York doing the Tonight Show. I mean, he loved

448
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Speaker 2: the city. He'd be in Grand Central Station playing tennis

449
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Speaker 2: with Mayor Lindsay. He'd be in the Bronx having lunch

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Speaker 2: with George C. Scott because they were friends and New

451
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Speaker 2: York was dear to him. And I'm obsessed with finding

452
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Speaker 2: footage because we both know most of it was erased

453
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Speaker 2: and Carson was furious.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the New York the first ten years of the

455
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Speaker 3: Tonight Show, I thought that was the best period because

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Speaker 3: you're right. He was in Jilli's, he was in the

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Speaker 3: Copa Cabana, he was all over New York. Once he

458
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Speaker 3: got to California, he'd go home and that'd be it.

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Speaker 3: He'd sit by his pool or play tennis. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: the same car.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, New York was just I mean he had this

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Speaker 2: green Cadillac and he had a driver and on Sixth

463
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Speaker 2: Avenue he'd be waiting after the show and around nine

464
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Speaker 2: o'clock he'd come down and get into his cadillact and

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Speaker 2: go back to the un Plaza, or go to Danny's

466
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Speaker 2: hideaway or meet Sinatra, Buddy Rich. He had a really

467
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Speaker 2: amazing Like one time, this green Cadillac as his driver

468
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Speaker 2: had an umbrella because it was raining over his head.

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Speaker 2: Carson watched his green Catalog be stolen by somebody and

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Speaker 2: they're driving. The guy's driving on Sixth Avenue and Carson

471
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Speaker 2: is in disbelief. This guy just stole his car. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was a low point for Carson, but he loved

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Speaker 2: the city. He actually when he moved to California, he

474
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Speaker 2: bought an apartment at the in the Pierre Hotel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, people, man, I realized the nineteen late nineteen

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Speaker 3: sixties New York well was a dangerous place, even the seventies,

477
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Speaker 3: so it was worse than today. The movie Death Wish

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Speaker 3: that was New York.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough place. I mean, Johnny would

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Speaker 2: have loved to have walked to work, but he definitely

481
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Speaker 2: would be a target just being famous in money. So

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Speaker 2: we both know Mark occasionally he would put on a

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Speaker 2: disguise and walk around the city. He said he would

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Speaker 2: feel ridiculous, but the costume people with NBC gave him

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Speaker 2: this so he could go out with his sons.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so we're talking of this before. When I was

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Speaker 3: a kid, he w like, leave it to Beaver and

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Speaker 3: there was the father ward Cleaver, and you didn't want

489
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Speaker 3: to be anything like that guy. That's not what you

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00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: wanted to be in life. But then you see as

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Speaker 3: a little kid, you'd see Johnny Carson's that's the kind

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Speaker 3: of adult I'd like to be that kind of personality.

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Speaker 3: That So he probably inspired a lot of people, didn't he.

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Speaker 2: I think he absolutely did. I mean, especially you know

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Speaker 2: during the New York days. I mean he was pitching

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Speaker 2: to Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris at Yankees Day. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was jumping out of an airplane, playing with the

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Speaker 2: jets at the Polo grounds. I mean it was really fun.

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Speaker 2: And then you know he was at Indianapolis Motor Speedway

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Speaker 2: with Parnelli Jones going hundreds of miles an hour. But

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Speaker 2: there was just something cool about him. I mean his dress.

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Speaker 2: I mean he made so much money. People all across America,

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Speaker 2: young men would save up their money to buy a

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Speaker 2: Johnny Carson suit. He made fat the turtlenecks popular. They

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Speaker 2: were selling out all over the place because of Carson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like James Bond would come in and

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Speaker 3: he'd have one great line, a funny line, one line,

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Speaker 3: but then you watch Carson. He could keep that up

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Speaker 3: for an hour and a half. He'd interview a guest

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Speaker 3: and have fifty funny lines.

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Speaker 2: So he had this ability where his brain there was

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Speaker 2: this joke file and he would admit that a lot

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Speaker 2: of those ave lobes were things he had used in

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Speaker 2: the past or had heard. But there was just nobody

515
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Speaker 2: that was quicker than Johnny Carson. I mean the jack

516
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Speaker 2: influence with the pauses when he would have animals on

517
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Speaker 2: was something else. He was absolutely brilliant. You have the

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Speaker 2: marsupial on his head relieving itself and Carsons look into

519
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: the spider going up to his arm. I mean, the

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00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: guy could do anything.

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Speaker 3: So here's the big question. Now, the Tonight Show was enormous.

522
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Speaker 3: You'd be a star overnight if you're in there. Letterman

523
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: was really a big show, and the late night shows

524
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: today are nothing like that. And you got to think

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Speaker 3: at some point they're going to disappear because network audiences

526
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: are getting smaller, budgets are getting smaller. Are we going

527
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Speaker 3: to see the end of late night TV at some

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Speaker 3: point in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 2: It really looks that way unfortunately. I mean, they took

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Speaker 2: away Seth Meyers, ban Cole Bear is going off in May.

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Speaker 2: It's tough. Johnny had eight writers at the most, sometimes

532
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Speaker 2: only four writers, and all these shows have you twenty

533
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Speaker 2: plus writers that they have banned. So I think if

534
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Speaker 2: the shows do continue, we'll come back. They're just going

535
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Speaker 2: to be really scaled down. I don't think we're ever

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Speaker 2: going to see an amazing doc Severance in twenty Piece

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Speaker 2: or Because ever again, which is a shame.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and like I said, with talk radio, with

539
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Speaker 3: cable news, by the time it's eleven thirty, you've probably

540
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Speaker 3: seen fourteen talk shows already that day, so you really don't.

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Speaker 2: It's really true. I mean, it's where we are, Yeah,

542
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: it's it's something that I didn't foresee happening. But it's

543
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Speaker 2: just network television.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in a while back when they took Jimmy Kimmel

545
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Speaker 3: off here for about a week, and during that week

546
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Speaker 3: they ran game show reruns and it got triple the ratings.

547
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Speaker 3: And I'm sure it costs nothing to run the reruns.

548
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 3: So when Colbert goes off, I would assume it's not

549
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Speaker 3: going to be another late night show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to say. Byron Allen, the mogul, maybe

551
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: a billionaire, has been buy an ad time to the

552
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Speaker 2: twelve thirty slot and doing his own comedy show comics

553
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: on leash. So I mean, I could see Byron Allen

554
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: being he's such an amazing businessman taking that slot and

555
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: just buying it from CBS. But we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, everybody get this book. It's the greatest book

557
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Speaker 3: ever written on Late Night on Johnny Carson. It's called

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Speaker 3: Love Johnny Carson. Just trust me, you'll thank me. Go

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Speaker 3: order it right now, Love Johnny Carson. You can get

560
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Speaker 3: it at Amazon. Mark Malkoff is the author, And you're

561
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Speaker 3: doing a book tour right You're all over the country

562
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Speaker 3: talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to go to Johnny's hometown of Norfolk.

564
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Speaker 2: I thought, ah, it's called nor Fork, nor Folk. They

565
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: said it's north Fork. But I got to be and

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Speaker 2: Johnny's boyhood home. They asked me to autograph the wall

567
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Speaker 2: next to the mothers, brothers and Paul Riser and all

568
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Speaker 2: these people like Dick have it. It was an honor

569
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Speaker 2: to be there and talk to people and sign books.

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Speaker 2: I did something in Chicago at the Broadcast Museum of Communications,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to be doing more events in New York,

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Speaker 2: so stay tuned.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let us know we'll promote him. So

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Speaker 3: when you do all these events, all these audience, what

575
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Speaker 3: do they ask you the most about Carson?

576
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Speaker 2: Just people just ask me what he was like off camera,

577
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: And the people that I talked to his best friends

578
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: consistently would say he was almost the same Johnny on

579
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Speaker 2: and off camera, which was shocking because the media would

580
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: make him out to be cold in a loof, and

581
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: his friends constantly would say he was not like he

582
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: was very shy and reserved when people didn't know him.

583
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Speaker 2: But if not, if he knew you, he was the

584
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Speaker 2: same Johnny. And constantly, people when they come up to me,

585
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: just tell me how much they missed the man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now he was the same Johnny. But and he

587
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: explained this once. When he goes to work, he would

588
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Speaker 3: get kind of cold on the loof because you're there

589
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Speaker 3: to work. It's not a party. You're not there to

590
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Speaker 3: have fun on the air.

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Speaker 2: You're right, he would. Yeah, he would save his energy.

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Speaker 2: That was a big thing with him. He wouldn't get

593
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Speaker 2: to the studio until he been working all day, but

594
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: he would conserve his energy. So it might really look

595
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Speaker 2: like it's tense, and I think he might have liked

596
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: it a little bit tense everyone. He wanted everyone to

597
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Speaker 2: be excellent and really be on notice and put everything

598
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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you'll love this book. Go order it right now.

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Speaker 3: The book's called Love Johnny Carson by Mark Malcoff, and

601
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Speaker 3: get it on Amazon. Love Johnny Carson. Get the book

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Speaker 3: and start listening to the Carson Podcast. It's it's great, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Mark Malkoff, thanks for being with us. We'll do it

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Speaker 3: again soon.

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Speaker 2: I'd love that Mark. It's still good in your voice,

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Speaker 2: good talking you take.

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Speaker 3: Care, take care yea. Thanks. You'll love this book and

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Speaker 3: listen to the Carson Podcast six hundred amazing episodes. Hey,

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Speaker 3: don't forget Buck and Clay Noon Today, excellent show. Sean

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Speaker 3: Hannity the most listened to radio show in America at three,

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Speaker 3: Jesse Kelly at six, and Jimmy Fayla. Who's the closest

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Speaker 3: you'll get to Johnny Carson now his Saturday night show

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Speaker 3: on Fox. But he does a great radio show every

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Speaker 3: night here every weeknight, nine o'clock on seven to ten.

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Speaker 3: Woar mister New York.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that's Mark simone seventen woar.

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Speaker 3: Well, Hey, just breaking this morning. Earlier this morning, they

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Speaker 3: have captured the mastermind behind the Benghazi attack. All these

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Speaker 3: years later, it was twenty twelve, fourteen years later, they

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Speaker 3: got the guy, the mastermind of the Benghazi attack. He

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Speaker 3: was captured, brought back here, landed last night Andrews Air

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Speaker 3: Force Base three a m. He is now in federal custody.

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Speaker 3: He will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

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Speaker 3: Took a while, but they got him. He will be

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Speaker 3: charged with arson, murder, terrorism, all sorts of charges against him.

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Speaker 3: So keep an eye on this. Hey, we're out of time.

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl this Sunday, now, don't forget. If you can't

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Speaker 3: a great weekend. It's going to be unbelievably cold tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: Seven to ten wo