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There's a couple things that 19 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: come into play this year. One high energy bills, two 20 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: a lot of cold temperatures and ice dams. Three, we 21 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: had a lot of moisture intrusion, and that all points too. 22 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: I need to check insulation. So concerned about high energy bills, 23 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: maybe you had some moisture issues. Is that installation went. 24 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just cold and drafting, maybe and ice dams. 25 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: That's a sign of inadequate insulation. And when I talk insulation, 26 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of course, I'm also talking about ventilation. So you know, 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: if you're sitting in your home right now, listening to 28 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: the show, or maybe driving around, you might just ask yourself, 29 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: when was the last time you really checked in the attic. 30 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: And I get it. A lot of people maybe aren't 31 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: going to climb up in their attic, but you can 32 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: get someone to climb up into the attic, because I 33 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: think an inspection is really called for, especially after this winter, 34 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: or especially if one of those three concerns concern you. 35 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: And get up in that attic and let's see how 36 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: much insulation you have. And let's see if the insulation 37 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: is wet, or does it look just perfect, or maybe 38 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: it's got some high and low spots and needs to 39 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: be a little bit distributed more smoothly on the floor 40 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: of the attic. Now, be careful up there. You know, 41 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: if there's no floor up there and there's just joice 42 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: and insulation in between them, you step on the insulation, 43 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: you're going through the ceiling. All right, just adds up. 44 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: But let's see how much insulation's up there. And depending 45 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: on where you live, the Department of Energy is kind 46 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: enough to give us well a rule of thumb of 47 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: where you need to be and where I'm at, it's 48 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: like an R forty two and that's usually somewhere between 49 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: sixteen and eighteen inches of insulation. I'm gonna guess in 50 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: my zone, you could probably go into fifty percent of 51 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: the homes and it's not up to that level, which 52 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: means you're just wasting money. Or if you get up 53 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: there and maybe you have I don't know, fiberglass insulation, 54 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: maybe you have cellulose insulation, and maybe you had a 55 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: frost problem, like the first caller today was describing, in 56 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: the frost in the attic then melded and the insulation 57 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: got wet, or as I spoke of, maybe you hit 58 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: some water intrusion around the boot of the vent going 59 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: through the roof and that insulation got wet. That wet 60 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: insulation then compacts, it's less effective. Maybe mold's grown in it. 61 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Now it's less effective and it's moldy and not healthy, 62 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: and that needs to be replaced. If it's not wet 63 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: and you just have not enough insulation up there, probably 64 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: just need some insulation blown on top of it. So 65 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: that's the first thing you're gonna check. And then the 66 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: other thing really you're gonna check is ventilation. I kept 67 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: saying so important, and it is. When you think about 68 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: the heated air down in the home and it gets 69 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: into that attic and there's not enough insulation to really 70 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: create that buffer of heat and cold, or the airs 71 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: escaping around the can lights or the room joys or anything. 72 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: It goes on and on and on. If there's air 73 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: getting in there, ventilation is so important. And if the 74 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: soft advents are clogged with insulation, you don't have adequate ventilation. 75 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: It's not allowing that hot air to escape, and that 76 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: needs to be addressed. But you know, we're we If 77 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: you're not going to make the effort to go in 78 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: and find out what's going on, you're you're you're you're 79 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: you're going to well, you're going to keep paying for 80 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: it through energy cost. And again, you know, mold and 81 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: moisture can be a problem. Ineffective insulation. If it's settled 82 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: and matted down, all could be issues. And I encourage 83 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: again if you can't get up in the attic, I 84 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: get it. If you get a kid to get up 85 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: there and can do that for you, it'd be great. 86 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: A handyman, anybody, just to give it a quick inspection. 87 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: All right again, our phone numbers eight hundred eighty two 88 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: three eight two five five Tom. Welcome morning, Gary morning. 89 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: So we're talking about this insulation. Always insulate everything. And 90 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: the number one thing I get back to again is 91 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: the watch water recirculating pump on your hot water heater, 92 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: because every time you run one or two gallons of 93 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: water out there waiting for your hot water to heat 94 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: that water to one hundred and twenty degrees incoming water 95 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: right now it's forty five degrees and to get it 96 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: to one twenty, it's going to cost you fifteen cents 97 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: to sixteen cents in this general area just to heat 98 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: that water. On top of that, you're being charged for 99 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: the water itself, it's going down to drain and the 100 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: sewer charge on that. 101 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: Plus you're taking the standard waiting for that water warm 102 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: up in your freezing. 103 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: Right, So between the wats recirculating pumping, the hot water 104 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: heater blanket, you're talking three hundred dollars. That's if you 105 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: put them on yourself now. On the also, if you 106 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: don't have your pipes in your basement wrapped your hot 107 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: water line, you should put those insulate and sleeves on there. 108 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: And another really interesting thing, my thermostat went out on 109 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: my wall this week. So I had a contract to 110 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: come out and tell me that it was bad, and 111 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: I found the best one now on the market is 112 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: called ion by Tempstar. 113 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Right, it tells you. 114 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: It tells you exactly how much energy you're using every 115 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: single day or month or year on your air conditioner 116 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: you're heating. It tells you humidity inside your home. Well, 117 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: it hooked up to the internet. But that ion by 118 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: Tempstar if somebody wants to google. 119 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: That, okay, So it's filled with information for you. 120 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: I put a thermometer probe in between the hot water 121 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: heater and the blanket. It shows that in between that 122 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: blanket and that I'm I have a temperature of seventy 123 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: to eighty degrees in that range depending on what's going 124 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: in and out of that how much people don't see 125 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 2: being wasted. That's a year round. Two the hot water heater. 126 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: So this is between the blanket and the water heater. 127 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: And before you put that blanket, what was the temperature 128 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: around that water heater? 129 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: Well, you couldn't really measure it because there wasn't no 130 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 2: way to contain the heat. 131 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: So, okay, I've had the blanket. 132 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: Once you put the blanket on, it's like putting a 133 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: jacket around. Sure, you know your body and you measure 134 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: your temperature. 135 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: And is this in a basement? Is that where the 136 00:08:59,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: water heater? 137 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: Well, that's where most people are. I'm up here in 138 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: Dayton and we have a ranch. So it's in a 139 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: closet with the furnace. 140 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: And okay, thanks, So it's kind of in the living 141 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: quarters in right outside of its in a closet. 142 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that, okay, glad affects your air conditioning all 143 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: summer long too? 144 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, all right, well, you know we gotta certainly 145 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: I like the idea of that thermostat. That gives you 146 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: a lot of really good information and certainly allows you 147 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: to kind of work it a little bit where you see, 148 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, we could do some little improvement there a 149 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: lot focused on humidity because that's just a comfort thing. Also, 150 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: So I like that and that's an eon right and 151 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: uh yeah, an eon thermostat so worth looking to do things, Tom, 152 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, and uh we'll take a little break 153 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're going to talk about 154 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: your issues around your home. 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The circulating pomp 203 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: on a shower, I don't know. I have a shower 204 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: and I used to have to wait almost fifty seconds 205 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: to get hot water. So there was a lot of 206 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: hot water that went in the pipe, sat cooled, and 207 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: then in the morning I'd take a shower to run 208 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: all that water out and be replaced with new hot water. 209 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: The circulator really does a good job. I'm familiar with 210 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: one called Grunfo. He mentioned one called watts and it 211 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: is ane. I mean, you turn the water on and 212 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: it's recirculating, it's reheating the water. So the savings is there. 213 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the savings is, but the 214 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: real joy for me was I could get up, turn 215 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: the hot water on the shower and I'd get it 216 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: like in five seconds. Since that fifty five seconds, so 217 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: love that idea. As for the water jacket, I think 218 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: the last time I was talking to him, I said something, well, 219 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know how important that is on newer water heaters. 220 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: I know the old water heaters. Gosh, I used to 221 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: talk about water heater jackets all the time, so I 222 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of looked it up this time. I didn't say anything. 223 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. I have all the data in front of me, 224 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: so I had put in I'd searched, you know, how 225 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: does it. Let's say you have a gas water here 226 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: and you put a jacket on. Does that save you money? 227 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about a gas one. That's the one I 228 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: put in, and a short answer yes, and older gas 229 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: water heaters. Yes. On older gas water heaters, an insulating 230 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: jacket can save energy and money. And that's kind of 231 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: what I'd said, and so it's how I read further. 232 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: And I was talking about water heaters older tanks before 233 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: twenty ten, which makes them sixteen years old now, so 234 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: near replacement time or has already been replaced when those 235 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: were made. They have very little insulation on them, and 236 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: water heater jackets were really a big energy saver. So 237 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: adding that jacket really can save you, you know, fifty 238 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: bucks a year, maybe twenty fifteen percent. None wrong with that, 239 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: fully endorsed. Then when you look at the high efficiency 240 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: of water heaters, may not be much help. They already 241 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: have thick foam insulation, and it states that a jacket 242 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: adds a little benefit. Tankless water heaters, of course, you 243 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: don't need jackets because you're only paying for the water 244 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: you're heating, and you're only heating the water that you're 245 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: using immediately. Now, the reason I asked where it was 246 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: at it said if the heater is in a warm 247 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: indoor space like a conditioned basement or living quarters, a 248 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: savings is even smaller. So really in the industry, for 249 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: your newer jackets or for your newer water heaters, they 250 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: should say high a fish and see water heaters. The 251 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: savings isn't going to be that much in living quarters 252 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: because really in the living quarters, maybe you know, for 253 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: air conditioning, it may help a little bit, but they're 254 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: so heavily insulated by government mandate, they've kind of taken 255 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: care of the problem for you, if you will. So 256 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I was saying before. And I 257 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: was just, you know, before I got into saying the 258 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: same thing to them, I thought I had better check 259 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm right on that, and that's the 260 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: answer I got. So I just wanted to pass that 261 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: on to everybody. And if you do have an older 262 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: water heater and you're going to use a jacket, I'm 263 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: not disputing. I just make sure you do that safely. 264 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: And there's you know, you don't want to cover up 265 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: where the burner compartment is. You don't want to cover 266 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: up the pressure relief valve, and so make sure you're 267 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: keep the insulation away from the flu that gets hot 268 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: and anyway, be safe doing it. If it's an older one, 269 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: have at it. I think it's wonderful. Endorsed him many 270 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: many times. You have a newer one, eh, I don't 271 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: think the saving is going to be there. I mean 272 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: there's jackets aren't that expensive anyway, but your saving is 273 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: gonna be really minimal. All right, let me give you 274 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: the phone number. It's eight hundred eighty two three A 275 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: two five five. We'll happily talk to you. We are 276 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: going to have a guest in the bottom of the 277 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: hour here and it's a company and Brian's going to 278 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: join us. It's Rocky Mountain Snowguard. We've had a lot 279 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: of snow in a lot of areas of the country. 280 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: We've talked about it. A lot of us have experienced it. 281 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Northeast is experiencing it right now. And in a lot 282 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: of cases, it depends on a roof you have. We 283 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: have all kinds of different roofs. We had a company 284 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: on that long ago. They had composite roofing. I've had 285 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: guests on many times where we had metal roofing, and 286 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: when we get a big snow pack on top of 287 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: those types of roofs sometimes all the time. Also depends 288 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: on the pitch. Brian will explain all this to us, 289 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: But we have snow that slides off the roof. I 290 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: know a friend of mine actually had a little house 291 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: in a high country ski area with a really steeply 292 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: sloped roof, and he had a deck beneath it, and 293 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: the snow is doing damage to his deck every year. 294 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: So there's answers to that. We're going to learn exactly 295 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: what those answers are and maybe save you a little 296 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: bit of a disaster if you will. And we'll continue 297 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: talking about what your house is telling you from the 298 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: winter and things you know to focus on. So anyway, 299 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: Brian'll be our guest again. He is with Rocky Mountain Snowguard. 300 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: That'll be coming up next as we continue. You're at 301 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: home with Gary. 302 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 3: Sullivan weekends, I mean a never writing list of things 303 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: to do around your home. 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So joining 349 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: me now is Brian Cross and he is with Rocky Mountain. 350 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: I could goof that up because it's National snow Guard 351 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: Safety Month. Hey have I impressed you so far? Brian? 352 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,239 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. 353 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: All over the place. Man, tell me a little bit 354 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: about Rocky Mountain Snowguard Company. 355 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: All right, So we are a snow retention manufacturer based 356 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 5: in Inglewood, Colorado, and we you know, provide snow retention 357 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 5: for people and our main objective is to help people 358 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 5: protect our homeowners, protect people in property with snow retention systems. 359 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: So my first question is, I know you're in Colorado. 360 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: Is this a problem nationwide? Does it have to do 361 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: with a type or roof? Give me a little background 362 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: on that. 363 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it definitely anywhere where you get snow, and 364 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 5: specifically you know, higher accumulation amounts of snow. So you 365 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 5: know it's going to exclude a lot of the South, 366 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 5: but really any sort of snow region is gonna gonna 367 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 5: benefit from snowguards. And there definitely is a factor consideration 368 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 5: for you know, the specific roof types and whether you 369 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 5: know each individual home is a good candidate for snow retten. 370 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: So asphalt shingles probably not too bad, but metal roofing 371 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: I could see could be a big problem. 372 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Asphalt shingles, they've got a higher friction coefficient, right, 373 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 5: so more more inherent grip, So they're they're going to 374 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 5: be less needed. Sometimes they still need them. But when 375 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 5: we get into the more slippery roof types, metal synthetics, 376 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 5: things like that are going to be a lot higher priority. 377 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: Sure, so I'm very familiar with you know, that sheet 378 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: of snow that can be I guess, any kind of thickness. 379 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: But you get a foot of snow up on a 380 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: metal roof or a composite roof and it starts warming 381 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: and that breaks loose. I mean, it's the old watch 382 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: out below. I mean, just this is this is a 383 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: big problem with some homes in you know, snow country. 384 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Any data on that. How big of an issue is this. 385 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 5: Well, it's definitely a big issue. And most of the time, 386 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 5: you know, it's not a catastrophic, you know, deadly event, 387 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: but thousands of snowslides are happening every year, people and 388 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 5: pets are being injured. According to the Colorado Avalanche Information Center, 389 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 5: in the last thirty years, five people have died from 390 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 5: rooftop snow avalanches, and the last one was back in 391 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three where a father and two of his 392 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 5: children got buried in an avalanche and unfortunately, one of 393 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 5: the children died. So people think, you know, five years 394 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 5: or five people in thirty years, it's pretty low risk. 395 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 5: But you know, just three years ago something happened where 396 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 5: somebody lost their. 397 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: Life, and obviously that's horrible. But the other end of 398 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: that is there's a lot of damage that does caused 399 00:25:53,880 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: by you know, snow avalanches off roofs, I mean, decks, cars, landscaping. 400 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 5: True, yeah, no, absolutely, and a big one that we 401 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 5: hear all the time is gutters getting ripped off. 402 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. 403 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,239 Speaker 5: And also it's a it's a burden even if you 404 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 5: know there's no real damage to walk out to your 405 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: garage and open it up and you find, you know, 406 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 5: two feet of snow that's fallen off your roof in 407 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: the middle of the night. 408 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: So before we get into what that guard looks like, 409 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: is there can you like pay me a scenario where 410 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: the avalanches on a roof occur. Is it usually the 411 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: grade or is it the thickness of the snow, or 412 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: is it the beginning of the melt? Cycle or is 413 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: and then the refreezing or you know what causes this. 414 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so I might get two technical and if 415 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 5: I do, let me know. So when snow falls, there's 416 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: two bonds that form on a roof. There's an adhesive 417 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 5: bond and a cohesive bond. And the best example that 418 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 5: I can give people that they probably it's scene of 419 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 5: an adhesive bond is in the middle of a snowstorm. 420 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 5: You'll see snow stuck to like a stop sign, even 421 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 5: though the stop sign is vertical, the snows stick adhesive 422 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: bond at work, and then a cohesive bond. I look 423 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: at that like you know, a snowball. Snow sticks together. 424 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 5: So both of those bonds will form when the snow 425 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 5: is falling on a roof. And what will happen is 426 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 5: when the sun comes out. Right, clouds are translucent, the 427 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 5: snow's translucent, so the heat from the sun will make 428 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 5: its way all the way to the roof deck and 429 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: it'll melt the bottom layer of snow and that's where 430 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 5: the adhesive bond is. And so once that's gone, the 431 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: only thing that's going to hold the sheet of snow 432 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: on the roof is the cohesive bond, which is typically 433 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 5: the weakest up towards the peak, and when that finally breaks, 434 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 5: it's going to allow for all of that you know, 435 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 5: facet of roof snow to come off and want slide. 436 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've actually seen that happen and it is 437 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: kind of frightening. It comes with a lot of force. 438 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: In this particular case that I saw and wasn't on 439 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: my house, gutter's torn off and the landscaping blow is decimated, 440 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: and boy, if anybody would have been standing underneath it, 441 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: of course they're ady had a tragedy. But there's a 442 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: lot of weight and a lot of power. 443 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's something that people don't consider. You know, 444 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 5: you look at snow and you think light and fluffy. 445 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 5: You know, depending on the size of the roof, it 446 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 5: can be thousands of pounds of snow. 447 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: So describe what a snowguard is, how it's installed. Is 448 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: it a do it yourself? Do you have people install it? 449 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: How do we eliminate this problem? 450 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, So snowguards they can be made of, you know, 451 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: lots of different materials. We tend to use the metals 452 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 5: just because we want it to be permanent for the 453 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: life of the roof, but essentially they're individual pieces that 454 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 5: are going to go on a roof in a specific pattern, 455 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 5: and their primary objective is to increase the friction of 456 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 5: the roof. Right the roof doesn't have the friction, we'll 457 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 5: put those up there to increase it. And we want 458 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 5: to hold the snow packed stable until it turns into 459 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 5: melt water and can run out your gutters and your 460 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 5: down spouts. 461 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: So is this a horizontal piece of material. 462 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 5: So there's there's different kinds and we have a few 463 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 5: different names for them. So snowguards we label those as 464 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 5: individual pieces that go on the roof in a pattern. 465 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 5: And then there's also snow fences, and snow fences are 466 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 5: going to go the length of the eve, typically a 467 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 5: few feet up from the eve, and they're going to 468 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 5: act as a barrier. So there's different system types that 469 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 5: are going to work better in different situations and on 470 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 5: different roofs. 471 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: One of the things we've had a problem in our 472 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: area this year, which we haven't had for probably fifteen 473 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: years is ice dams. Does this work on ice dams also? 474 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 5: Well, it can, I guess it can hold the ice, 475 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: but it's not going to be something that's going to 476 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 5: be effective at eliminating ice damming. Ice stamming is really 477 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: more of a roofing or a roof characteristic. Right, the 478 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 5: water gets over a cold portion of the roof and 479 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 5: it freezes correct, So the snow retention won't necessarily help 480 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 5: with X. We're just holding it up there until it 481 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 5: is water right. The water is still going to find 482 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 5: its way down to where the cold spot is and 483 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: still can potentially freeze, So that'll be something that's really 484 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: solved with synthetic heating put on the roof heat cable 485 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: things like that. 486 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Sure, so how are the snowguards attached, So. 487 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: It's going to depend on the roof type, on standing 488 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 5: seam metal. We use a company called S five and 489 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 5: they've been really good with finding standing seam attachment right, 490 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 5: so they clamp to the seam versus penetrating the metal, 491 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 5: which is great for warranties and things like that. For 492 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 5: shingle roofs, they'll be fastened with either nails or screws. 493 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 5: And that's going to be dependent on whether it's being 494 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 5: installed with the roof roof or as a retrofit, you know, 495 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 5: after the roof is already installed. 496 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: As not just curious, it makes no difference. I was 497 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: just curious, is most of your business with new roofs 498 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: or retrofits. 499 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: It's it's a pretty good mix. I would say probably 500 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: snowguards were sixty percent new install forty retrofit with metal roof, 501 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 5: you know, specifically standing seems the big market. It's hard 502 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 5: for us to know because the installation method is the same, right, 503 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: the roof has to go on before the fence can 504 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 5: go on. With shingles, though, you know, we'll have a 505 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 5: longer snowguard, and so we can actually bury the fasteners 506 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 5: up under the courses above, so there's no sort of 507 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 5: waterproofing concern. Unfortunately, with retrofit, unless people want to tear 508 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 5: their roof off to install them, they're they're going to 509 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 5: end up being face fastened right just through the exposed 510 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 5: portion of the shingle. And with those we have specific 511 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 5: fasteners and install methods to ensure that it's going to 512 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 5: be watertight. 513 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: So one question that comes up on my show a 514 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: lot is insurance premiums and how the insurance industry is changing. 515 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: Adding snowguards on a retrofit, or if you're reroofing your 516 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: home having them installed with a new roof, does that 517 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: affect insurance premiums at all. 518 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: Not that I've heard. Okay, I definitely haven't had anybody 519 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 5: reach out saying their insurance company offered them a lower 520 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: rate to have them. 521 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you would think though, I mean, you're 522 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: preventing damage, you know, one of the big buzzwords and 523 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: insurance right now. I'm sure you've heard it as you know, well, 524 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: you know it really it was a lack of maintenance 525 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: or it was a lack of planning. And here you're 526 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: basically really preventing you know, some pretty sizable damage that 527 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: can happen with a snow avlie Lange coming off a roof, 528 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: So maybe they ought to take notice on that. I 529 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: think it'd be a good preventive batenance. 530 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 5: So yeah, and I think part of that is the 531 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 5: industry is I mean, it's old, but it's still like 532 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 5: newer as far as being a real big commercial application, 533 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 5: and there's not you know, most things have like an 534 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 5: ASTM standard, there's some kind of standard for the governing 535 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 5: bodies to fall back on. There is not anything for 536 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: that yet. A STM is working on developing standards for 537 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: it now and I'm part of the group that's doing that. 538 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 5: My thought is is once there's actually a standard, it'll 539 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 5: probably be written into you know, more codes and things 540 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: like that. But it's hard to require something that they 541 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 5: don't have a standard for. 542 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: Well, the bottom line is peace of mind for all 543 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: of us. 544 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 5: Absolutely. 545 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: And you know, if you've had this problem or anticipate 546 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: this problem, you might check out the Rocky Mountain snowguards. 547 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: One other thing, you talk about a pattern, do you 548 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: create debt problem or not a problem? You're solving a problem? 549 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: Do you create the pattern? Do we send pictures or 550 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: how's that all work? 551 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we have a free layout and design service. 552 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 5: So really what we would need from a homeowner or 553 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 5: a roofer is going to be, you know, the measurements 554 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 5: of your roof and and most of the time we're 555 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 5: taking those off of like an eagle view or roofscope 556 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: report where they do all of the measuring with satellites. 557 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 5: But I can just have you know, hey, the eves 558 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 5: this long, the eaves the peak distance is this long. 559 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 5: And from there we'll look at you know, pitch snowload 560 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: roofing material and we'll be able to recommend a specific 561 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 5: pattern that's going to work best for that roof, the 562 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 5: one that we primarily lean on, especially in the you know, 563 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 5: the higher snow regions, is what's called the Soldier row, 564 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 5: and we're the only company that's doing this, but we've 565 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 5: seen incredible effectiveness with it. So it's twelve inch place 566 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 5: the snowguard every twelve inch going down a course. Okay, 567 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 5: And the nice part about how tight it is is 568 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 5: it doesn't allow the cohesive bond to break in between 569 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 5: the snowguards. A lot of the other patterns that are out, 570 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 5: you know, in the market, are going to be twenty 571 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 5: four inch spaced on the first course and then go 572 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 5: up you know, a course or two and then do 573 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 5: an offset twenty four inch spacing. So their theory is, 574 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 5: you know, you still have twelve inches between the snowguards, 575 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 5: but they don't account for you know, the verticality. Right 576 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 5: we're going up the roof deck and also over twelve inches, 577 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: so it ends up being eighteen inches and some of 578 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 5: those situations that's enough for the cohesive bonds to break 579 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 5: and then the snow's just going to weave through the 580 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 5: snowguards and come off the roof. 581 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: Fascinating and Brian, in all seriousness, thank you for your 582 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: education you're giving us. I know it's probably for you 583 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: a pretty elementary course, but I think letting people be 584 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: aware of it and would they contact Rocky Mountains Snowguards. 585 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 5: So we have, you know, a website and a phone number. 586 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 5: So our website's Rockymountain Snowguards dot Com. 587 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 588 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 5: Our phone number is seven two zero three seven nine 589 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: seven seven five six okay, And you can call and 590 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 5: talk to us. You can talk to me, or you're 591 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 5: able to just email with you know, our team and 592 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 5: ask the questions that you have, Okay. 593 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: And I guess your ruffor may know a little bit 594 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: about you also, so that's another way. Again it's Rockymountain 595 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: Snowguards dot Com. Brian. Once again, thank you very much 596 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: for your time. I appreciate it, I appreciate the education. 597 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 5: Thank you absolutely thanks for having me on. 598 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Take care all right. So there you 599 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: have it, just a little different aspect of it. But 600 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: all locations, all areas, all geographies have their own set 601 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: of problems. And this was something I was a little interesting, 602 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: and I've been asked this question a couple of times. 603 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: Didn't know a whole lot about it, and Brian certainly 604 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,439 Speaker 1: provided a good quick education on it. All right your 605 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: calls eight hundred eight two three eight two five to 606 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 1: five lines are open. You're at home with Gary Sullivan. 607 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 3: Help for your home is just a click away at 608 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 3: Garysullivan online dot com. 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Not 648 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: everybody has that issue, but a good solution to that 649 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: particular problem. Hey, another quick reminder, because we're always looking 650 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: for different products to solve the issue. Maybe help in remodeling, 651 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: maybe a discussion about something we'd like to add to 652 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: our home. Many many areas, including my hometown has garden shows, 653 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: home shows, Home and garden shows, home remodeling shows. If 654 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: you got a project on your mind and you're kind 655 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: of just thinking about it, get to those shows. A 656 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: lot of times you'll run into multiple companies that you 657 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: can talk to in the same day, kind of get 658 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: a feel for the company, maybe get some answers to 659 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: your questions, and sometimes it's the motivation to start the project. 660 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: Of course, not all the companies in your city are there, 661 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: but usually you'll find in some of the cases of 662 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: the cream of the crop. Quite honestly, it can afford 663 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: to be in the show and staff the booth and 664 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,959 Speaker 1: talk about their services, so I encourage you to go there. 665 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: In fact, next Saturday, I will broadcast this show from 666 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: the Home and Garden Show in Cincinnati, Ohio from nine 667 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: am to one Eastern time, and the last two hours 668 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: of that show we're going to devote to things that 669 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: might enhance your home. For instance, we will sit down 670 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: and talk a lot about different composite woods for decking, 671 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: any changes in pressure treated wood. We'll talk with the 672 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: company about fasteners for decking. Very good chance. We'll talk 673 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 1: to people regarding windows. You know, do you want wood windows, 674 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: do you want vinyl windows? Do you want fiberglass windows? 675 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: But that's one of the real advantages of these shows 676 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: when you attend these as you have multiple companies in 677 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: the same arena with slightly different products for kind of 678 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: the same project. So we can do a little bit 679 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: of your homework and hopefully we accomplish that task in 680 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: the last two hours of next Saturday show. If you're 681 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: not in my area, that's okay. You'll still get plenty 682 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: of great information. If you're in my area, and you 683 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: miss the show, you can pick up the podcast and 684 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: listen to some of the interviews. We are always on 685 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: every hour and of this show is podcast on the 686 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: iHeart app just hit a little magnifying glass or hit podcast. 687 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: Put in that Home with Gary Sullivan. Danny's got each 688 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: hour labeled marked and dated, and each interview too, Yeah, 689 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: and each interview, so you will have an easy time 690 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: finding it. It should be actually very easy to find it. 691 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: And like I said, I'm sure it'll have a lot 692 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: of good content something you might want to refer back to, 693 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 1: especially if you've got a bigger project going on, maybe 694 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: just incorporating a whole outdoor living area or new windows 695 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: for your house or roof. But we'll try to cover 696 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 1: the best we can, and I'm sure we'll have a 697 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: little fun there too, so I look forward to that. 698 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: All right, we got another hour to go. Let me 699 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: give you the phone number. Feel free to jump on board. 700 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: Love to talk to you about your home. It's eight 701 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 1: hundred eight two three eight two five five. That's eight 702 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,359 Speaker 1: hundred eight two three eight two five five. Y're at 703 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: Home with Gary Sullivan. 704 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 3: If you don't have a list of things to do 705 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 3: around the house, Gary will find something for you At 706 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 3: what eight hundred eight two three talk You're at home 707 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 3: with Gary Sullivan