1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:09,079 Speaker 1: It's night with Dan Ray's new Radio. All Right, we 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: have one hour left in this week, and it's it's 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: been a tough week for everyone. You know, there's nothing 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: we can do about the lives that were lost this week. 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I cared, and I'm sure all of you care about 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: the students at Brown who who were killed, and we 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: also care about those who have been badly injured or 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: injured at all. We certainly care about the families of 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: those individuals, the families of the professor from Brookline, Massachusetts. 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't particular. I don't care about the guy that 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: killed himself. You know, I'm not a good enough Christian 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: to tell you I care about him at all. I 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: don't know what drove him to do it. Pure evil, 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: in my mind, absolute pure evil. There's no way to 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: explain it. I mean, I know the psychologists will tell 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: us they have explanations for it, but I'm done with 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: being sympathetic to people who harm other people and hurt 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: other people for no reason. You know, I watched this guy, 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: Robert Walsh, Brian Walsh, excuse me, walk off to a 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: life sentence without the possibility parole twenty two years after 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: after he's after his life ends and no sympathy for 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: him in terms of what he did to his wife Anna. 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: I think we as a society need to get a 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: little tougher uh and look down on these people and 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: realize for what they are now again, they're all mental health, 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: mental health, mental health. There but for the grace of 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: God goes any one of us. I guess you can 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: look at it like that. But at the same time, 29 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: all of us have things come into our lives, disappointments, 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: We have tragedies within our families. It doesn't give you 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: the right to walk away and and and give up 32 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: and to and to harm other people. I think we 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: as a society have become too soft, uh. And I 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: think we have to, you know, say look, you know 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: every time they do these sob stories and somebody who's 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: murdered three people and I found Jesus in prison. I 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: want to move past it, but I just want I 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: want to say about the murderer, good riddance. You did 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: nothing that helped people while you were here. You took 40 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: a parent, You took a dad away from three children, 41 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: You took a husband away from a wife. You took 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: two amazing young students away from their families forever. There's 43 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: no sympathy for you. You didn't even have the courage 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: to face your actions. You you basically hid in a 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: storage facility and then decided to kill yourself. You took 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: the easy way out. Frustrating U. It is very frustrating, 47 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: and that's that's what I'm left with at the end 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: of this week. I'd love to hear from you. Six 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: one seven, two five four thirty six one seven nine 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: three thirty. John is in Boston. John, as I understand 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: that you are a first time called it a nightside, 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Well come. 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 2: Sir, Yes, thank you, Thanks Dan, first first. 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Time call it correct. I just want to make sure 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: we do not good well, thank you very much. It's 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: always interesting to see what prompts people to call for 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: the first time. I'd love to hear your point of view. 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this story, I've been following it all week, 59 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: and you mentioned that Brian Walsh story as well, and 60 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 2: I was following that pretty closely too. But first off, 61 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: I want to you know, my thoughts on prayers with 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: all the families impacted by this tragic both tragic events. 63 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: But I'll focus on the Brown shooting and you know, 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: it's just a shame that. You know, young college kids 65 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: go off to college, whether they're local or international students, 66 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: and you know, all the fear and anxiety. I have 67 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: three kids toolgm are in college, ones in high school 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: once thinking about where they want to go to college. 69 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: And a lot of kids ever since Sandy Hook. I 70 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: don't recall when Sandy Hook was exactly, probably fifteen years ago, oh, guests, 71 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: But you know my kids grew up after Sandy Hook 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: and went through school and doing the drills, you know, 73 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: the active shooter drills. And my youngest is sad to 74 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: say she's afraid to go to high school. She goes 75 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: as Well high school, a nice high school in the 76 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: Boston area, and you know she's thinking about, as I said, 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: going off to college. And you know, school's tough enough 78 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: on kids, some kids, and just to add this anxiety 79 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: with you know the possibility of something like this happened 80 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: at any school in America. Unfortunately, it's happened all too often, 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: and just a little inside. I was listening to Seeing 82 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: and late this afternoon I taped it, so I don't know, 83 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: I don't recall who was asking the questions, but they 84 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: had an old classmate of this shooter, you know, from 85 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: twenty five years ago, and he remembers them. He said, 86 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: he looked nothing like he did twenty five years ago. 87 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: He remembers the professor, the IT professor, being at Brown 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: with the shooter. So I thought that was pretty interesting. 89 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: I heard that they Well, I don't know that that 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: is true because the shooter des I understand that did 91 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: his graduate work in a college in London. Again, if 92 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: that's accurate, it will come out. The story that I 93 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: read earlier was there was a story out of an 94 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Australian newspaper that said that the head of the school 95 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: in Lisbon said that the top student in the class 96 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: was the shooter. I mean, I would have said, had 97 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: you heard. 98 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: That, Yeah, yeah. 99 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: On CNN, this guy said, he said the shooter was 100 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: bored back twenty five years ago, a Brown. He did 101 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: not like going to Brown, he didn't like Providence. He 102 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: was by far the brightest student and the whole PhD program. 103 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well, let me let me just let me make 104 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: sure that we're not that we're talking for the same 105 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: There's a statement out of Lisbon from the head of 106 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: the school. These guys went to an undergraduate to an 107 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: effect a college in Lisbon from ninety five to two thousand. 108 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: They graduated in two thousand and according to the head 109 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: of that institute, Valenti, the shooter, the killer, was the 110 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: top student in the class. Now, if you had said 111 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: to me, who's the top student of the class, I 112 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: want to say, well, obviously the guy who's now a 113 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: professor at MIT. But I would have been wrong if this. 114 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he said he was the top student at 115 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 2: Brown years ago. 116 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: He wasn't the top student at Brown because he was 117 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: accepted to Brown in a graduate postgraduate program to seek 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: of a doctorate in physics. He entered into in September 119 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: of two thousand and then he took a leave of 120 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: absence in the spring of that year, and then sort 121 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: of like a temporary leave, and then a year or 122 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: so later he withdrew from the university. So I don't 123 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: think he would have been the top student at Brown. 124 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: Well, according to his friend twenty five years ago, at Brown, 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: he said he was by far the brightest person there. 126 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: I know he didn't make it through or whatever. 127 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, okay, so well, I guess it's conceivable 128 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: if his argument was that the shooter was so brilliant 129 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: that he was bored by the curriculum. I can't imagine 130 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: being bored by a curriculum and in a doctoral program 131 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: at Brown, but maybe he was. I don't know. I 132 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: still have no example. 133 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: Was an example? He said there was a physics book 134 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: that they used, and he could solve every problem in 135 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: the physics book and nobody else could. Well, that's just 136 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: an example of how he described. 137 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: I'll let me ask you a question if I could, 138 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: and that is this report that you saw. I'm not 139 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: sure where you saw to who this fellow was. But 140 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: did he at all, uh, give us any indication as 141 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: to what this shooter had done between the time he 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: left Brown in two thousand and one and uh and 143 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: and what he did at Brown last Saturday afternoon. 144 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: He did not He did not know. I believe he 145 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: said he had not spoken to him since two thousand 146 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: and three. Yeah, okay, And what what what news had 147 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: a challenging personality? 148 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well that CNN is a legitimate news channel. So 149 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you did tell me that, 150 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: and I should have remembered it. So okay, that's Uh. 151 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: These are always mysteries, you know. And there were people 152 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: who I went to school with I'm sure people who 153 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: you went to school with John who you might remember, 154 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: and maybe even close friends of them, and you lose 155 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: contact and you lose track, and then you find out. 156 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: In my case, my postgraduate education was in the law 157 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: at Pawshiniver Law School. There were friends of mine who 158 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, you were, you know, casual friends, you weren't 159 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: best friends, but you knew one another, and then you 160 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: find out fifteen years later, Oh, they that person became 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: a judge, or that person became a law school professor. 162 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: You just can't keep close contact with everybody. 163 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he thought there was signs. He had been 164 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: interviewed by the FBI today, Yeah, this person on CNN 165 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of things, like by the questioning from 166 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: the FBI. He said there were signs back then, you know, 167 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: he had a challenging personality, had picked fights with certain 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: He was talking about Portugal and Brazil, and there was 169 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: someone from Brazil that did pick on for some reason. Yeah, 170 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 2: you know how Brazil was once a territory of Portugal 171 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: or whatever. But yes, he had an example about that, and. 172 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: That's certainly that that's interesting to know even something like 173 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: that that somebody would I don't know looked down on 174 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: someone from Brazil because Portugal at one point in time, 175 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: uh you know, you know, basically uh owned the entire 176 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: you know, west coast of South America. I don't know, 177 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well that was interesting stuff, John. You 178 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: you have been the best caller of the night as 179 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, because you provided really interesting observations. 180 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: I wish I could watch every TV channel and read 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: every newspaper and be able to tell you everything, but no, 182 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: you've And also, you know what you also did when 183 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: I asked you questions, You actually clarified your answers for 184 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: me and you answered my questions, which I always enjoy. 185 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: You know, I was asking them out a genuine interest 186 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: and and you provided some really interesting answers. So thank you, sir. 187 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: Great first time. 188 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to add that the police chief 189 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: I saw an interview with him from Providence Police Chief 190 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: and he said, how the guy. You could tell the 191 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: guy was smart of the investigators to tell he avoided 192 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: he never traveled on busy streets to avoid the the 193 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: license plate readers and whatnot, that he was very you know, 194 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: they could tell they were dealing with someone with a 195 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: high IQ. Yeah, the way he operated and the you know, 196 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: before the shooting, well. 197 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: He apparently, according to the authorities, I think they said 198 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: that he had come up here at some point in October. 199 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: He'd been in the area for quite a while. Uh, 200 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: And so he did his due diligence, that's for sure. 201 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: And they they were able to put him half a 202 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: mile from the professor's house in the moments before that 203 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: murder took place. So, you know, no matter how smart 204 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: he was, technology and the FBI UH figured it out. 205 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, and you know, he's not going to harm 206 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: anyone else, at least in this life. Thank you, John, 207 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: appreciate your call. 208 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: Have a good nights. 209 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Yep. What what do you celebrate Christmas? Honkah? What? 210 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas? 211 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm a merry Christmas guy because I like and I liked. 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: If friends of mine who celebrate Hanaka, I wish them 213 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: a happy Honkah. And again we're still in the celebration 214 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: of Honukah. I have some friends who celebrate Kwansa. I 215 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: wish them a happy Kwanza. And if you celebrate Festivus, 216 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: tell me what I'll sell. I wish you a happy 217 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: Festivus with the rest of us. Thanks John, appreciate you call. 218 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: I have a great, happy, happy everything to everyone. 219 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: That's perfect. That's perfect, Thanks John, good night, all right, 220 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: get some open lines here. Six one, seven, two, five 221 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: ten thirty, six one seven, nine three one ten thirty 222 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Tina from wusakat Rhode Island, one of my better callers, 223 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: is going to be coming up next. There are a 224 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: bunch of you who I haven't heard from this week. Remember, 225 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: in the eleven o'clock hour, everyone has a hall pass, 226 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: So don't I hope you're not sticking around waiting to 227 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: call in the eleven o'clock hour because you can call 228 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: now as well. I want to know, how do we 229 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: get past uh this, this tragedy. I'm not talking about 230 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: the people who were immediately impacted. They will never get 231 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: past the tragedy. They'll never be closure. I think closure 232 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: is one of these words that's kind of a phony 233 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: where there's no closure. When you lose a child to 234 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: a ridiculous, nonsensical event like this doesn't make any sense. 235 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: There's no closure. There's no closure for the professor's family, 236 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: for his wife and his three children. They will live 237 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: with his absence for the rest of their lives. Six 238 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: one seven two, five, four, ten thirty six, one seven, 239 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: nine three one ten thirty some of you might be 240 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: able to offer a comment that might help us move 241 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: past this. I think the holidays will help us move 242 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: past it. We'll be talking about it, I'm sure for 243 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: weeks and then well certainly for the next few days, 244 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and then it'll be over, will be in a new year. 245 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: But I want to spend some time tonight talking about it. 246 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if this bores you, but this is what 247 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: I feel we need to talk about tonight. I hope 248 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: you do as well. Six one seven, two, four, ten 249 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: thirty six, one seven nine. 250 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray. 251 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 5: I'm done you Bzy Boston's news Radio. 252 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Tina down in Rhode Island. Tina. Yes, 253 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: quite a week in Tina. How are you. I hope 254 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: you're doing overay? 255 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm doing okay. 256 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: Dan. 257 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 6: I tuned in at nine o'clock and I was listening, 258 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 6: and I've been listening and I'm going to hear you 259 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 6: to the end. 260 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: I don't have. 261 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 6: Anything to say how we got, how we can get 262 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 6: over it, but maybe I can say this. Maybe it'll 263 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 6: help some of your listeners for me, if there's something 264 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 6: that I'm like and I'm interested in, I just follow 265 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 6: it completely. I'm a news junkie. I love to know 266 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 6: what's going on in the news and politics and everything. 267 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 6: So I think maybe if people are just aware, if 268 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: they have more awareness of what's going on not only 269 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 6: in their life in the community and just take it serious, 270 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 6: maybe that's a way to get over it. But the 271 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 6: reason why I want you to talk to you, I 272 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 6: just want to. 273 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: Tell you that I think that's a pretty nice, pretty 274 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: keen observation that there's a lot of people who who 275 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: probably were not aware of this, and I think that's sad. 276 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: But you're right. People need to be more aware. They 277 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: need to tune in more to the world of room. 278 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: They're missing a lot of great stuff. Go ahead, I 279 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: didn't mean to interrupt you. 280 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 6: Okay, that's okay. My question is this, when an event 281 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 6: like this happens in Providence and the people and the 282 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 6: authorities and Providence and the people in authorities in Massachusetts, 283 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 6: when this happens, will they be trying to get in 284 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 6: contact with family Because I know the MIT professor, he 285 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 6: has family, and they contact him them if they want too. 286 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 6: Is that standard practice when they want to find out information. 287 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: Will the providence authorities try to get in contact with 288 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 6: the killers from from you know, the one who killed 289 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 6: people at the university. Will they try to get in 290 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 6: contact with family members to find out a motive? 291 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, well absolutely. I thought initially you were asking 292 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: about contacting people who are victims of crime. Someone asked 293 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: the last hour. Now, someone last lasked last hour, How 294 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, how did they contact family and why didn't 295 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: they get released the names of the victims earlier? They 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: want to They want to protect the family and make 297 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: sure that the family does not hear about it or 298 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: on the news media. So they want to make sure 299 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: the same way when a soldier dies overseas, they want 300 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that the family has a chance to 301 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: be told that horrific news before they they're driving to 302 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: work or they're driving to the grocery store. Notification. You 303 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: bet you. They'll try to find out what they can 304 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: about this guy. I mean, if nothing else, you want 305 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: to find out if he was really acting as he 306 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: appears to have been, as a lone wolf who had 307 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: a grudge. I mean, this all suggests to me that 308 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: he had a grudge against the School of Brown where 309 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: he apparently dropped out of that he had a grudge 310 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: against this, this fellow classmate from the college in Lisbon, 311 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: who obviously had far exceeded whatever hopes and dreams this 312 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: guy had. The professor was the head of a nuclear 313 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: fusion program at Harvard. This the forty seven year old 314 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: rather MIT person, not Harvard Mit. The MIT professor was 315 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: one of the smartest people probably in the world, and 316 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: this guy must have been jealous of him or something 317 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: sounds it was jealousy and anger, which was a very 318 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: bitter stew for someone to have to live with for 319 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: twenty five years. And he decided that he was going 320 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 1: to do something about it, and he came up here 321 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: and uh and tried to damage Brown. And then he 322 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: tried he took the life of the professor. Yeah, but 323 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: they'll find He'll try to find out. They'll they'll try 324 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: to find out, not only his family but his friends. 325 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: Is there a political motivation here? 326 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 5: Was it? 327 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: I think they're going to find that it was nothing 328 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: but his own personal jealousy and anger and frustration that 329 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: he didn't have the successful life that the professor from 330 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: Mit did or that other students from Brown did. And 331 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: he probably looked at them and said, you know you 332 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: people think you know you're going to have great success 333 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: because you've gone to an ivy league college and you're 334 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: going to have a degree from Brown. Well you'll want 335 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what, it's not what you think it is. 336 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: And that's why he probably what a. 337 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 6: Sick go, what a sick go? 338 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: He got it? Thank you? Really well, I was trying 339 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: to give you what I think he was thinking, because 340 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: that's the only thing I can think of. Yeah, revenge. 341 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: He was on a revenge tour. He in tracted his revenge. 342 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: And I hope the hell that that he that he 343 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: is deep in the fires of hell tonight. And that's 344 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: that's that is my thought, because that's what he deserves 345 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: to be. 346 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 6: Well, I'm glad he killed himself save the tax pay 347 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 6: his money of a tryout. 348 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: Well that's true too, But anyone who kills himself under 349 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: those circumstances is a coward. Uh yeah, yeah, he took 350 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: forth for him what he felt was the easy way out. 351 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: This guy was a sociopath and he also was a narcissist, 352 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and that's a bad that's a bad combination. Tina. If 353 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: I don't talk to you happy Merry Christmas. Okay. If 354 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't talk to you before now and. 355 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 6: Then you all so Dan, Okay, thanks. 356 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: Tina, and we will be We're gonna be here Monday 357 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: and Tuesday night. Tuesday night will do the charity combine 358 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: and for me that'll be in this year. I'll be 359 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: back after the first years. So if I don't talk 360 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: to you next week, I will talk to you right early, 361 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: hopefully in twenty twenty six. Thanks so much. 362 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: Okay, see you next to yea, Dan. 363 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: Great night. Good I six one, seven, two, five, four, 364 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: ten thirty A little long there, but TEENA is always 365 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: a fun caller. Six one seven, two, five, four to 366 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: ten thirty six months seven nine three one ten thirty 367 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: go wide open lines here. This was a tragic, tragic 368 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: story UH, basically devised, executed committed by one very sick individual. 369 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 6: I have no. 370 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: Sympathy for his sickness. I'm sure that all of us 371 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: too often defall to the attitude, well, this guy was sick. 372 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: He might have been sick, But unlike the person who 373 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: is sick and spreads the flu innocently, this guy used 374 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: his sickness, if indeed he was sick, UH to take 375 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: out people in some sort of a revenge tour. That's 376 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: what it was, plain and simple. Agree or disagree six 377 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: one seven, two five four to ten thirty six one seven, 378 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: nine three one ten thirty. I think we need to 379 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: be harder and more harsh on individuals like this and 380 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: let people know that there's no heroism. There's nothing that 381 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: is valuable or or or respectable in terms of what this, uh, 382 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: this coward did to innocent college students and to a 383 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: father and a husband, a father of three and a 384 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: husband who was one of the most brilliant people in 385 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: the world by virtue of his status as professor at 386 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: MIT and the head of this nuclear fusion program at MIT. 387 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: Six one seven, two, five four ten thirty six one 388 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: seven nine three one ten thirty Agree and disagree? Feel free? Well, 389 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: coming back on Nightside. It's Night Side with Dan Ray on. 390 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: Boston's news radio. 391 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: All right, our next caller, Dan from Tampa is not 392 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: in Florida. He is out on the briny. Dan and 393 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: Tampa welcome. I understand you about seven hours from the 394 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: site of the Titanic Titanic sinking. 395 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 7: Hello, Dan, Hey, Dan, can you hear me? 396 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: I could hear you now? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, I 397 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: know you were traveling back to America, but you're in 398 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: the North Atlantic. Tell us where. 399 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 7: And about seven hours we'll be within forty nautical miles 400 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 7: of the final resting place of the Titanic. So we're 401 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 7: roughly southeast of Cape Race in Newfoundland. 402 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow wow wow wow wow. Where did you disembark from? 403 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: Were you in England? 404 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 8: Yeah? 405 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 7: I went to I wanted the big miles on birthdays. 406 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 7: I turned sixty this year, so I went to England 407 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 7: like I do every year, and then this is basically 408 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 7: my right home. And if you're back in arrive in 409 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 7: New York on Monday and then fly back to Tampa 410 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 7: on the Monday afternoon. 411 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you you're living the good life. We've had 412 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: a crazy week up here in New England with the 413 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: attack on the students at Brown University and then the 414 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: murder of an MIT professor. And has that story reached 415 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: you this week? Or am I telling you something that 416 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: you're unaware of? 417 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: Now? 418 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 7: One of the benefits or downside of modern technology, depending 419 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 7: on how you look at it is we've got Camble 420 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 7: News here twenty four hours a day and listen to 421 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 7: your show here. So unfortunately we're I don't know good 422 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 7: a bad. We're very well connected with what's going on 423 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 7: in the world. And kind of my take is I 424 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 7: kind of thought about this as Eric Idol, one of 425 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 7: the Monty Python cast, has this song that Reforms called 426 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 7: always Look on the bright Side of Life, and I 427 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 7: think my comment from here is that, you know, no 428 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 7: matter what happened with we have to look on the 429 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 7: bright side. And when I start looking on the bright 430 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 7: side and look on kind of the negative side, then 431 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 7: I think that's when we're kind of done. 432 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 5: So no matter what happens in the world, I try 433 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 5: to look on the bright side. 434 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: Well, it's a great philosophy and your correct of this 435 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: individual killed two students, wounded a dozen others nine critically, 436 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: I believe it was the numbers. He walked away, No 437 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: one knew where he was, who he was, He was masked, 438 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: and it turned out that there was a lucky break. 439 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: A Brown student who had graduated in twenty ten and 440 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: who's now homeless, was living in the basement of this 441 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: building on campus. 442 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 5: I think I lost you in but you know, okay 443 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 5: with you and you could listen Merry Christmas, Merry. 444 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Christmas to you. Dan McDonald, Dan is a former Tampa 445 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: police officer and one of our most loyal listeners. There 446 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: was one time when he called from a boat in Antarctica. So, uh, 447 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: this is at least his second time calling us from 448 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: out on the the brain. 449 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 5: This is my my second second call to you from 450 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 5: the high seas. 451 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so I got you back, Dan, Thanks so 452 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: much for checking and appreciate it as always. Thank you. Safe, 453 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: safe trip home, my friend. 454 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: All right, I think we've all right take it. 455 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, why don't you just say good night? She 456 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: was Yes, I think we on't you take the call 457 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: over and say good night for me? 458 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 6: Uh? 459 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Talking about traveling, Let's talk to my friend Leo. Leo. 460 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: The last time we talked, you were on the well, 461 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you were in Greece. Have you reached Have you arrived 462 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: back home? 463 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 8: That's correct? I just got back left. But one they 464 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 8: so it was raining over the app most of the 465 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 8: time I was there. 466 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: How you give away you, Leo? You were away most 467 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: of the summer, if I'm not mistaken right, No, No, 468 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: I went. 469 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 8: Over there twenty eighth. I had an operation in the 470 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 8: beginning of the summer, and I went twenty eighth of September, 471 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 8: and then I ended up. So I heard about the 472 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 8: news in the Brown University and it's like sad the 473 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 8: first time, Like you hear, it is pretty sad. People 474 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 8: like have psychological problems and they'd taken on the others. 475 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 8: There were time yet this. 476 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Guy supposedly I read a story tonight out of Australia 477 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: that said that this guy, the shooter, was supposedly the 478 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: the number one member in his undergrad to a class. 479 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,959 Speaker 1: He went to the same school as the professor who 480 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: he killed, and when he went to Brown, he didn't 481 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: have the academic success that he had, so he came 482 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: here on his revenge tour. And the only motive that 483 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: I can see is pure on adulterated revenge. He wanted 484 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: to take a revenge out of those who were enjoying Brown. 485 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: He apparently never enjoyed Brown, and he wanted to take 486 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: a revenge from his classmate who obviously had soared. You know, 487 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: in academia, as a professor at MIT and as the 488 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: head of a nuclear fusion program at MIT, there was 489 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: nothing more than revenge at every turn. 490 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 8: Well, you know, every time you take life for somebody 491 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 8: else and you are not in a compact or trying 492 00:27:52,680 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 8: to defense yourself. It's like it's inappropriate. It's like sick. Well, 493 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 8: you know, you cannot go over there try to kill 494 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 8: people like that. For whatever problems you have, you have 495 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 8: be able to listen to your problems. 496 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also it's cowardly. 497 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: Of course. 498 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 8: Of course. Now when you're at sea, that's like your 499 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 8: previous caller, right, You're gonna get rough weather, You're gonna 500 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 8: get bad weather, you gonna get hurricanes. You gotta have 501 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 8: to deal with them. You don't kill people every time 502 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 8: you have hurricanes. You know, you got problems in your head. 503 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 8: You gotta go to see a doctor. 504 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: Yes. And by the way, Leo knows of what he speaks. 505 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: How many years did you spend on oceans? He worked 506 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: on ships for many many years. 507 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 8: How many years Leo nineteen seventy two to eighty eight. 508 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: Sixteen years, sixteen years. And I'm sure you had more 509 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: than a few days where the where the ocean was 510 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: giving you a tough time. 511 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 8: Well, you know, I've seen, uh, I've seen a lot, 512 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 8: you know, I've seen a lot. I've seen hurricanes, I've 513 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 8: seen uh tight typhoons, I've seen a bad weather as 514 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 8: it comes. Since you gotta on the count see you 515 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 8: just go outside to take Europe of time and enjoy 516 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 8: the sun, take your vitamin D three. But you know 517 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 8: you got you gotta enjoy everything life. It's not that easy, 518 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 8: you know. It's cat Landers. The more you put climb 519 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 8: up in a ladder, the more the horizon gets bigger. 520 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 8: And when you get up there, you realize you know nothing. 521 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of irony in the way we live 522 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: our lives, Leo, isn't. 523 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 6: There It is? 524 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 8: It is, But you know, in this kind of world 525 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 8: we live in nowadays, it's uh we we hear a 526 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 8: lot of sick people. They were around before Internet. Now 527 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 8: it comes like faster from everywhere and what you know, 528 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 8: a lot of coffee cuts too. 529 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's hope the hope they were none. Leo. Welcome home. 530 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for calling uh and I'm glad you're back home, 531 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: safe with. 532 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 8: You and your beautiful crew. You have over the merry Christmas, 533 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 8: all the best and the happy holidays for everybody right 534 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 8: back at you. 535 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: Leo. Absolutely one of my favorites, that's for sure. Thank 536 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: you for your loyalty to this show. Thank you very 537 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: much for so many years. Thanks Leo, will talk soon. 538 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much Bye, Bye, Merry Christmas. Okay, thanks again, 539 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. I lean in Rhode Island. You're 540 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: going to be next. I got a couple of open 541 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: lines if you want to get in six months. The 542 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: only line open right now is six one, seven, two, 543 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: five thirty. We will go to the twentieth hour. I 544 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: still am not quite sure. I'm trying to read my 545 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: audience as to where we want to go in the 546 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: twentieth hour. And to end this week, I want to 547 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: end it on a positive note. I don't want to 548 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: ended on a negative note. We'll be back on night Side. 549 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: Stay with us and get ready to dial. You can 550 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: still dial now and get in at six one, seven ten. 551 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: It's night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio. 552 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: Well, here we go, with full eyes and five minutes left, 553 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: let's get at it. I lean in Rhode Island. Your 554 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on what we have gone through as a as 555 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: a region this week. 556 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: I know it's been tragic, but may I like your 557 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 4: show for a little while? 558 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, go right ahead. 559 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: I called you several weeks ago and told you that 560 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: my hundredth birthday was coming up. Now it is a 561 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 4: week from tomorrow next Saturday. But I know you'll be off, 562 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: you won't be on. 563 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, so I want to I want. 564 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 4: To tell you that my one hundredth birthday is a 565 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: week from tomorrow. 566 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: Well, let's get a round of across from my studio 567 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: audience for Eileen. II. Leen, you sound great. 568 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: I'm very thankful that I have all my buttons. 569 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: Oh you have all your buttons, and your voice sounds 570 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: to me like you if you if you asked me 571 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: how old you, I would have said, oh, maybe fifty 572 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: five or six? Do you sound fabulous? 573 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 4: What say you take that? 574 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: What is the secret, Eileen? What is the secret to 575 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: such a long ending? Good? 576 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 4: Good good jeans? 577 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 7: And you know what? 578 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: I have to tell you something. Sure, I had my 579 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 4: DNA down a short while ago, okay, and I am 580 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: of ethnic Near Eastern heritage, but I found out there 581 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: I am one percent Jewish Eastern Eastern European Jewish blood. 582 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 583 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 4: And I always thought I was a meaning well you know, hey, 584 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: you never know. 585 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: But isn't that great? Eileen? I will be back after 586 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: the first of the year. You're right, You're going to 587 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: turn one hundred on Saturday, the twenty seventh, and I 588 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: will not be on the air, But I will think 589 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: about you that day and I will toast a glass 590 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: to you that day. I leave thank you so much 591 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: for sharing with us, and call me and will I'd 592 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: love to talk with you longer, maybe someday in the 593 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: new year, and leave your number with Rob Okay. I 594 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: might even like to give you a call on your 595 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: birthday to say happy birthday. 596 00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, thank you, Dia. I wish you happy holidays, whatever, 597 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 4: Merry Christmas, happy Honka and whatever. 598 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm a Christmas guy, but I have family 599 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: members and grandchildren who are a part Jewish, so we 600 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: get to celebrate everything. Eileen. I've loved your call. Thank 601 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: you so much. You sound great. Thank you so much. 602 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, Merry Christmas to you as well. All right, 603 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: let's keep get that number for me. Let's keep rolling here, 604 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: Tom and the cap. Tom. You gotta be quick from 605 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: We got full lines. Believe it or not, Go ahead, Tom. 606 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 4: Dan. 607 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: There's only one good thing that guy and Broad Providence did, 608 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 3: and that was he took himself out. 609 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, he saved the taxpayers some money, but boy, it's 610 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: a cowardly act, isn't it. I mean you you know 611 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: it probably was the right thing. 612 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 3: It's a cowardly act. But he did the right thing, 613 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: the only probably the only right thing he ever did 614 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: in his life. That she took himself out. 615 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm with your dog. Great. Yeah, he died alone, and 616 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: he laid there for at least two or three days. 617 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: It looks like so uh yeah, nothing at all. Hey, Tom, 618 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Great call. Merry Christmas to you, buddy, 619 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All right, I'm gonna try to 620 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: get at least one more in in in San Antonio 621 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: and go right ahead. 622 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 9: Hi Dan, Merry Christmas to all. And I want to 623 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 9: thank you for talking about this tonight. Thank you because 624 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 9: New Englanders are a special group of people. They're very caring, 625 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 9: they love each other and they're good people. 626 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: And be proud of that. 627 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a tough week. 628 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 9: And be happy in the holiday. 629 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: Yes, holidays. Well, and thanks so much for calling. I 630 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: know you listen. I want you to call more often 631 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: because they need your positivity. Okay, okay, you will be well. 632 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: Thank you, good night, Okay, real quickly here Terry and Harwich. Terry, 633 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to get you and I'd like to get 634 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: in and Quincy, so if you can do it in 635 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: a minute, that would be great. 636 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 10: Hi Terry again, I just want to say I think 637 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 10: Irene could make us all heal and move forward. God 638 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 10: bless her on her hundredth birthday. 639 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: Wow, Eileen was just a superperson, a super person. 640 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 6: Absolutely. 641 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 10: My heart goes out to those that were murdered, their families, 642 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 10: their loved ones, and all those that were shocked. Those 643 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 10: are the folks that need the most healing, those of 644 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 10: us that are looking from the outside, and we need 645 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 10: to start being a way of what's around us. Yes, 646 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 10: this guy clearly a barbaric, evil criminal, not mentally ill. 647 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 10: He's an evil criminal. 648 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm with you. 649 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 5: I'm with you, y. 650 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 10: He had signs that people didn't report, and we all 651 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 10: need to wake up and start speaking up when we 652 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 10: see things like this. 653 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,760 Speaker 1: Can you see something say. 654 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 10: Ideal is a sociopath all the time, Terry. 655 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: I want to give Ian and Quincy just a few seconds, 656 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: So let's talk maybe sometime next week, and you loved 657 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. 658 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 9: Okay, Bye Dan, Bye, Terry, talk. 659 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: Soon, Ann and Quincy and I can do about twenty 660 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: seconds for you. 661 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 9: I just want to say a lesson can be learned 662 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 9: from this is not to hold a grudge tell your 663 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 9: loved ones, your children, this is what a grudge can 664 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 9: lead to. It can lead to hatred and violence. 665 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 2: And I think there's a lesson from this. 666 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: I think you're so right, and you know what, I 667 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: think that we waited two hours to hear some some 668 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: of the best callers of the Night of the last segment, 669 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: I just want to say thanks to everybody. Christmas to you, 670 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you in and I hope you have 671 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: a great twenty twenty six And everyone who has called 672 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: this hour, you can call next hour. I'm not sure 673 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, but we're gonna do something, and 674 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna lighten it up. Coming back on Night's side 675 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: right after the eleven