1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Kay, what comes spurt? 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 2: Health? 3 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: How lone and bring on the Funds with ellis one 4 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: of our favorites, the Funds who are always Dave Logan, 5 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Edwards always great to catch up with, my friend. 6 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing well? How are you gentlemen doing? Fauns? 7 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: You good? I'm doing really well? Are you? I'm doing 8 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: the days? Yes, yes, yes, no, it's a good to 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: you guys' voices. I hear it's quite warm out there, 10 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: Yes it is. It is fun. 11 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: I was doing the Nuggets TV when when Funds, I think, 12 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 3: I think your rookie year was ninety two, ninety one 13 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 3: or ninety two, and uh it was. It was just 14 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to broadcast those games. But he's 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 3: always now he's on the line with us, but he's 16 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: always been one of my favorite Nuggets, both on and 17 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: off the court. And we had you on I don't 18 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: know a year or so ago, and your career is 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: taken off your I see all the time calling college 20 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 3: games and uh, I mean, are you enjoying enjoying it 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: as much as you did when you played. 22 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: It's just different the obviously the goal and the jack 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: to try and the off season to become the best 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: basketball player you possibly can to. Of course in the 25 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: team context once the season began, to try to impact 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: your team individually, and of course try to just have 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: a positive influence on the group with what you're doing 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: out there on the floor. But from this from my 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: vantage point, because basketball the thing that I enjoyed the most, 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: and that's changing now because of the unlimited transfer. But 31 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: it's such a joy to meet a kid who's a 32 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: freshman and when you're asking them a question, their eyes 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: are down, they barely give you a little handshake, and 34 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: you run into that same young man a year later 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: as a sophomore. Their shoulders are back that looking straight 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: in the eyes, they're listening to every single word you say. 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 2: They're getting you. These just unbelievable for the age answers 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: that are well thought out, and I just love watching 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: them mature. The maturation process of young men as they 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: go from freshmen and sophomores, but particularly from freshmen the seniors. 41 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: That's incredible. I do want to ask you. We were 42 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: talking about the Nuggets just a little bit earlier, and 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: certainly have some questions about the NCAA tournament, but what's 44 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: sort of your impression of how the Nuggets stack up 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: in the West. 46 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Right now, Well, we I was in fourth place there 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: and we can score to basketball with anyone. I was 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: actually surprised to see. I knew we were excellent scoring team. 49 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: I did not know that we would leave the league 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: and scored. So that's always the gifts thing. Obviously we're 51 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: leading the league getting three points zeo go percentage as well. 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: But when you have a guy like Jokich's the centerpiece 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: of what you're doing offensively, who can go get thirty 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: on his own and they contribute to another tweet to 55 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: thirty points only fourteen, the averages about one hundred and 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: twenty one points a game. That's half your points right there. 57 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: You just meet the other guy to just be able 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: to fill into what we're doing on the oufensive in 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: in just historic numbers there. My only concern is do 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: we have a championship level defense that we had a 61 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: few years ago when we won the title. And that's 62 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: the thing that concerns me a little bit here. And 63 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: as I look at the deficiencies that we have there, 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: I have to wonder how much of that has been 65 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: guys in and out of the rotation AG's been out, 66 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Peyton Watson, Cam Johnson, all of our guys that have 67 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 2: been in and out of the lineup for an extended 68 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: period of time. And again, when you have a guy 69 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: like Joker in the middle, then the offense might have 70 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: a little bit of drop off. But because he's such 71 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: an anchor, it makes so much happen on that end. 72 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: It's hardly noticeable there. But where it is amplified, I 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: feel is on the defensive end, because they it starts 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: on the defensive end with trust, and that trust is 75 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: built over time. Is I have to know the strengths 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: and weaknesses of my teammate. I was thinking about Brian 77 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Stiff and I. For example, I was never a I 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: thought I was an average to the low average one 79 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: on one defender, but because of the speed, quickness and 80 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: leaping ability that the low addressing you with, I thought 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 2: I was a really good off bone to help defender. 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: And so I knew Brian Stith guy who he was guarden, 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: and knew if he would need help late game situation 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: against Michael Jordan the year that they won seventy two games, 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: were playing the whole floor. They had won twenty something 86 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: in a row. I knew that Brian was going to 87 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: make Michael, who preferred to turn over his right shoulder 88 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: when he was in the post on the right block, 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: but I knew Brian would make him turn to his 90 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: left to go towards as a baseline, and so I 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: quit quickly, and I was able to block that shot 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: out of bounds late in the game, and that ended 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: up being one of the Piedrol plays late. But how 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: did I know that? Because I played with Brian's fifth 95 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: we hardly missed any games together. I knew what his 96 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: strength and weaknesses were. I knew which way he was 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: going to try to force a guy, and we just 98 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: haven't had that luxury all year long because of guys 99 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: going in and out of the relationship. It's trust and 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: then trust over times you build chemistry, and we just 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: not had that. And so the only concern I have 102 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: with nine games to go in the regular season for 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 2: our team going into the playoff to win a world 104 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: title again, it is just that how how quickly, how quickly, 105 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: now that we're starting to get healthy, how quickly can 106 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: we kind of regather a level of trust and chemistry 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: on the defensive end the Propellers when we're playing against 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: teams like Oklahoma City, it was just they're so good 109 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. 110 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: And then we're talking with the Fonzo Ellis former nugget 111 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 3: Great if fans, I want to ask you one more 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: question about the league before we talk a little bit 113 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: about the the NCAAA tournament. I mean, you came out 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: of Notre Dame and really had instant success. You were 115 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: like a fifteen and nine or ten guy your rookie season. 116 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: But I want to ask you now, as you you 117 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: cover the league still, even though you call a lot 118 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: of college basketball, you also call the NBA. What couple 119 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: of things are the most different in today's game as 120 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: opposed to when you played, And do you like those things. 121 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: In today's college game or tell NBA game? Obviously, they 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: the emphasis was on the three point line. We played 123 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: more inside out. Obviously we had we had open breeze, 124 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: we would take them. But of course we were trying 125 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: to take advantage of every mismatch we possibly could down 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: in the post. So if Brian stiff, we have a mismatch, 127 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: we weren't running the day tricky. We were sending them 128 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: down to the post and we were coming up with 129 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: three or four ways that we could get in an 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: instry pass out of the post. And even at times 131 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: we would played against teams like the Arlvon Hornets and 132 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: Bobara Pack would have a mismatch with Muggy Bogues. Well 133 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: for that night, you knew that Muggy Bos is going 134 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: to get it consistent. Uh, You're going to be consistently 135 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: posted up down there, and the pack was going to 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: get a lot of seeds down in the post. So 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: that that's that's one thing that's a bit different. And 138 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: the draft process, Dave, is if you were a lottery pick, 139 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: you were expected to come in that that particular year 140 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: and have a major impact on your franchise. These days, 141 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: h the emphasis was on younger guys who had the 142 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: high I see it not necessarily to bring a guy 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: in who's impactful in their first year. So those are 144 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: two things that are different than my day. 145 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: Wellfaon's Bella is joining us. Let's talk a little about 146 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament. It's been a lot of fun, as 147 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: it is every single year. Not seeing Yeah, I mean 148 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: there's a few upsets. Obviously, we were talking earlier about 149 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: Iowa Florida. We've seen a few of those high points, 150 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: of course, but I say overall and Chalk feels strong, 151 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: but it does feel like the best teams are playing 152 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: like the best teams more or less this year even 153 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: last year. Do you agree with the sentiment and what 154 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: do you sort of assess to that. 155 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's good for our spoard because as 156 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: an analyst, you become an ambassador of the sport that 157 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: you're serving, and so you have to think about it 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: on a global level as well. If the numbers show it, 159 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: if everyone's excited about the Cinderella when you're first starting 160 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: the tournament, so that's the first four, that's, of course, 161 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: the first two rounds of the first we can and 162 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: then what we and people are engaged at been excited 163 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: about it. But what we've learned is when those Cinderella 164 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: teams all of a sudden start to advance, and then 165 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: the Dukes, the Kentucky's, the North Carolina, the Kansas, the 166 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: Michigan State, the blue bloods of our college game aren't there. 167 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: As you get to the elite eight in the final four, 168 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, viewership the viewership starts to 169 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: weigh and so for the health of the sport. I 170 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: love the fact that we high Point did what they 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: did in the first round, and I love miamil of Ohio, 172 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: who had just a storybook season, had to won over 173 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: thirty games in a row and then find the lost 174 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: one to win their first round game to validate that 175 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: they were worthy of being there. But when you look 176 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: at the strength of the brand names that are filling 177 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: out the Sweet sixteen, you know, it excites me. So 178 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: we've served one aspect of our audience by several of 179 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: our smaller teams got wins in the first round. But 180 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: now we've also satisfied the great majority of the fan 181 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: base as we go into the Sweet sixteen with some 182 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: big brand names out there and available for people to 183 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: choose something. 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: Last question for me, You've again called a lot of 185 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: college games. You worked a Big Ten conference. You think 186 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: of Michigan, you think of Iowa as Ryan was talking 187 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: about in their upset Nebraska wins their first two NCAA games, unbelievable. 188 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: Fred Hoiberg, I was calling games much like you were 189 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: back in the day when Fred was playing at Iowa State, 190 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 3: and he really was a hell of a tough It 191 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: wasn't overly talented. He could shoot the ball, but really 192 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: a tough, tough competitor. But I want to gauge sort 193 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: of how you view the Big Ten. And everybody talks 194 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: about the physicality of the league. Is it, in your 195 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: mind that much different in terms of the physicality the 196 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: Big Ten as opposed to the other conferences. 197 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: I think it's much more physical, particularly in the regular season. 198 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: I would say the confidence that seed that's either the 199 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: equivalent or maybe slightly below in terms of physicality would 200 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: be the Big Twelve. And many have said probably the 201 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: reason why the Big Ten had to win a national 202 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: title since Michigan State in two thousand was that by 203 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 2: the time they get to the NA Tournament, their teams 204 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: are exhausted because of the physicality. And I think it's 205 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: over the years, it's just been matchups by so many 206 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: teams from the Big Ten haven't gotten to the Sweet sixteen. 207 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: But you see that five or six now in the 208 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: Sweet six team with Michigan and Michigan State and Ottawa 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: and Purdue, and a great opportunity for this team to do, 210 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: for those teams, to do something for the conference that 211 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: hasn't happened since two thousand. So and you bring up 212 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: Frand Hoiberg. What a story. So that group went to 213 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: the College Basketball Crown, which we at Fox Sports put on. 214 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: It was our first year. Last year they win the title, 215 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: and then they knew that as a springboard coming into 216 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: this season to win what twenty one straight before they 217 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 2: had their first law And here they are, after winning 218 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: our college basketball Crown, they find themselves in the sweet sixteen. 219 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: And Fred Hoiberg has done a phenomenal job. In fact, 220 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: he got my vote for the National Coach of the Year. 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: Done a tremendous job with that program. 222 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: Do you have a lean on who you think is 223 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: gonna win it? 224 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: I've leaned for a while Arizona missed. I had Michigan 225 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: early on, but I felt when you get down to 226 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: the final four, you have to have at least at 227 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: least one or two guys who can create offense for 228 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: themselves because teams all of a sudden become like side 229 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: and there's switchability involved, and now they take you completely 230 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: out of your offense. Now, can you get someone in 231 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: space or in the post and be able to create offense. 232 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: The best example I can give you was the last 233 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: year that Kansas won the national title. Renny Martin, who 234 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: had transferred from Arizona State to Kansas, had a really 235 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 2: good year for Kansas, but then in and out to 236 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: the injury and coming into the NT double A Tournament, 237 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: I said Kansas wouldn't have any chance of winning the 238 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: national title if Remy Martin's not healthy, And who is 239 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: it making big shots to feel the deal in the 240 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: championship game is Remy Martin? I feel like l. J. 241 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: Cason has that same ability to impact the offensive Michigan 242 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: and because of that deficiency in him being out for 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: the rest of the year with the injury, I went 244 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: with Arizona. I'm with you. 245 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: We're both in Arizona, which means Dave he thinks he 246 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: wants to change his pick. But conversation, Yeah. 247 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: I know, Ninto, but you got to do it. That's it. 248 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm riding with absolutely. Can I can I give a 249 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: shameless plug? Yes, yes, absolutely, Colorado playing against Oklahoma in 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: the College Basketball Crown next Wednesday night. Tune into your 251 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 2: Buffaloes and see if they can get a win over 252 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: a very good, hot Oklahoma team who's really got hot 253 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: towards the end of the season. Just miss the MT 254 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: double A Tournament and I'll be playing in our als 255 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: basketball Crown Man, that's awesome. 256 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: That is Awesomelfonso, always a pleasure. Thank you so much 257 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: for giving us a few minutes. 258 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: Man. Appreciate you. Not to be with you, guys, blessing 259 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 2: to you and your family. 260 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Appreciate it to you, all right, lafondol about it. 261 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 3: He is one of my all time favorite athletes in Denver.