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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened with Skeens double triple, no

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Speaker 1: Hello America, No Tom again today. I figure that kid

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Speaker 1: He's a BS artist with good delivery, so he's made

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Speaker 1: like Tom Win will be. We got a big hockey

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Speaker 1: He wasn't wearing sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: No, he's not gonna play third base. He's the d H. Period.

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Speaker 1: Up?

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Speaker 3: he looked a little rattle. But O'Neill's Cruise on his

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Speaker 2: Come on, that's funny, isn't it. Oh my god, it's great. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I want the Pirates to win my demeanor

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Speaker 2: Is a bum?

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Speaker 3: You got to see the clip of him running up

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Speaker 2: But now I know. Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: Tomlin will never coach again, just to go back to

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Speaker 1: to know what you saw with Skeens Cruse. I mean

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Speaker 1: The Penguins aren't gonna call it morishof skinners and goal tonight.

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Speaker 5: these pirates came on.

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Speaker 5: and it's going to be called eleven Minutes of Hope.

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Speaker 1: I have considered speaking of football, the real football. The

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Speaker 1: They are, of course the reigning and defending USL champions.

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Speaker 1: I want your thoughts on skins. We're gonna talk hockey.

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Speaker 1: In just the second. We have mister Electricity, the dean

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Speaker 1: corner on one oh five to nine. This Pirate start

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Speaker 1: Henry Davis is the caddy, the guy that Skeens wants

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Speaker 1: He is the dean of Pittsburgh Hockey Writers. He's got

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Speaker 1: a book out which we'll talk about. He is mister Electricity,

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Speaker 1: Dave mullinary Davy or the Penguins collapsing or slumping? And

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Speaker 1: can they get a second wins?

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Speaker 4: H I think that you know, it's it's safe to

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Speaker 4: after the holiday break. I wouldn't write them off just yet.

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Speaker 4: They're obviously going through a really tough stretch of the schedule. Now, Uh,

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Speaker 4: that's no way to pick up points. But I you know,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't write write them off just just yet.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: But there's some factors coming into play which we should

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Speaker 1: Davy is age figuring because it's not a young roster.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know how much age is contributing to this. Uh,

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Speaker 4: of a difference. You know, Malkin has had a lot

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Speaker 4: Crosby just came back from an extended absence. Latang's the

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that Latang played his best talking with Kulak

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Speaker 1: he got a second round pick in that swap. But

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Speaker 1: that that Kulak for Girard trade ain't worked.

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Speaker 2: Ot has it?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Not particularly? I guess it depends on what you thought

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Speaker 4: But you know, there's no question that that Latang, this

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Speaker 4: because I think his game would be a lot more

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Speaker 2: Is goaltending an issue?

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Speaker 1: The Penguins have a lot three or more goals in

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Speaker 1: ten of the last twelve games. Then again, there's some

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't put it all on the goaltenders,

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Speaker 4: I think they've shown that they're capable of being better.

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Speaker 4: You know, the the last game they lost in Caroline,

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Speaker 4: rust after that game who, said if not For Stuart

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Speaker 4: skinner it would have been ten or eleven to. Five

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Speaker 4: so you know they have been getting good goalpending more

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Speaker 4: much on a nightly. Basis now when you when you're

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Speaker 4: giving points, away whether it's because of you, know frequent

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Speaker 1: Allowed well in that, vein would you call Up morishoff

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Speaker 1: From wilkes where he is nominating or barring, that would

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Speaker 1: you pick a number one goalie BECAUSE i wouldn't Say

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Speaker 1: shiloffs has played great, lately but he's played okay and

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Speaker 1: probably better Than Stuart.

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Speaker 4: SKINNER i, MEAN i haven't seen Enough miroshov lately to

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Speaker 4: if you do get into the. Playoffs you, Know i've

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Speaker 4: but you, KNOW i don't know that either She loves

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Speaker 4: valid claim to that. Job two of.

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Speaker 1: The next three games or four point games in the playoff,

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Speaker 1: race namely At ottawa tonight and at The islanders On,

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Speaker 1: monday how big are those? GAMES i think if they lose.

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Speaker 1: Both put it this, WAY i think it would really

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Speaker 4: BOTH i wouldn't go quite that, far but obviously that

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Speaker 4: would be a major. Setback AND i think it's reasonable

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Speaker 1: Bonus it's been an incredible year and even more so

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Speaker 1: lately For Eric.

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Speaker 2: Carlson what do you think has brought that?

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Speaker 1: On because he showed very little sign of this in

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Speaker 2: PENGUINS i, mean.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to think that it's not related to the coaching.

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Speaker 4: dan muses is doing, differently systemically or otherwise that would

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Speaker 4: result in such a traumatic change In carlson's. PRODUCTIVITY i,

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Speaker 4: mean he's not only putting up, points you, know at

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Speaker 4: makes more good plays in The penguin's, zone you, know

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Speaker 4: it's really been a transformation THAT i did not see

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Speaker 1: Career Does Sidon geno have to do more like takeover?

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Speaker 1: Games and maybe that's, unfair But i'm not sure this

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Speaker 4: Now, YEAH i, MEAN i don't think that's unreasonable at.

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Speaker 4: All crosby hasn't been bad since he came, back but

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Speaker 4: he certainly hasn't performed at the level that he's proven

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Speaker 4: himself for years and years to be capable of. Reaching

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Speaker 4: and you, know not making the playoffs this year would

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Speaker 4: would not tarnish his legacy by any. Means but if

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Speaker 4: he can, help you, know carry this team across the finish,

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Speaker 4: line that would be another bus plus in a career

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Speaker 1: Them what happens if they don't make the, playoffs and

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Speaker 1: i would think that it would really be a tumultuous

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Speaker 4: NOT i Think dubis will pretty much stick to the

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Speaker 4: same plan that he would have if they were fifteen

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Speaker 4: points out of a playoff spot right. Now making the

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Speaker 4: playoffs this year would be a great bonus for them

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Speaker 4: when you consider where they are in their. Rebuild but

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Speaker 4: making the playoffs and winning around or even two isn't

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Speaker 4: the objective. Here you, Know dubis has said repeatedly that

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Speaker 4: the idea is to turn this team into a Viable

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Speaker 4: cup contender year in and year, Own and you, KNOW

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Speaker 4: i don't think they're particularly close to realizing that objective.

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Speaker 4: Yet SO i really don't think that how this season

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Speaker 4: know have a profound impact on how they approach the. Offseason,

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Speaker 4: well you're.

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Speaker 1: Totally right About dubas's, plan AND i for one hope

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Speaker 1: he sticks to it.

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Speaker 2: Totally AND i bet he.

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Speaker 1: Does BUT i, mean that's not the goal of the

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Speaker 4: Opposed, YEAH i, Mean i'm sure he wants to make the,

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Speaker 4: the long term future of the, franchise you, know not

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Speaker 4: just what can be accomplished in twenty twenty. Six so

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Speaker 4: if it upsets, them you, know so be. It BUT

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Speaker 4: i think he's done right by them this.

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Speaker 2: Season, NO i think that he couldn't do. BETTER i,

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Speaker 1: Coffee let's talk about, him And i'm thinking he should

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Speaker 2: Play it amazes me that he's not in place Of

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Speaker 1: Whoever this is their most consistent offensive threat since they've got,

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Speaker 4: Goalscoring, yeah you, know and there's SOMETHING i wrote on

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Speaker 4: why he hasn't scored in away games. Lately it's not

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Speaker 4: like he changes his game when he when he goes

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Speaker 4: on the. Road but if he could start to score

437
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Speaker 4: in away games the way he has been at, home

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Speaker 4: that would certainly be a big plus for. Them he

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Speaker 4: was a great. ADDITION i don't know that anybody outside

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Speaker 4: of Perhaps dubis and The penguins pro scouts anticipated him

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Speaker 4: having quite the impact that he. Has He's he's certainly

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Speaker 4: quite a, talent and there's there's room to. Improved he

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Speaker 4: should get better for a number of years to.

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Speaker 1: Come we've already talked about the Goaltending. Davy what about

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Speaker 1: the defensive. Core carlson's obviously been. Brilliant what about the other?

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Speaker 4: Guys the tang has been up and, down mostly. Down

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Speaker 4: the other GUYS i, think in, general have been what

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Speaker 4: you expected from them coming into the. Sea you, Know

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Speaker 4: shay's had a year that probably exceeded. Expectations he took

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Speaker 4: a pretty nice step forward this. Year but you, know

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Speaker 4: in training, camp nobody was looking at this defense court and, saying,

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Speaker 4: gee you, know these guys look a lot like The

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Speaker 4: canadians of the late nineteen, seventies except maybe, that you,

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Speaker 4: know all concerns wore ice. Skates you, know that's about

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Speaker 4: the extent of. It, so you, KNOW i THINK i

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Speaker 4: think they've generally performed to the to the level you would,

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Speaker 4: expect and that level isn't especially high what you Call.

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Speaker 2: Davy will The penguins make the?

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Speaker 1: Playoffs it feels like a fifty to fifty shot right,

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Speaker 1: now and other teams they're competing with in The Metro

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Speaker 1: columbus kind of feels like they're. In they're just red

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Speaker 1: high and coming on. STRONG i think it's down to

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Speaker 1: The penguins And islanders for.

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Speaker 4: THIRD i think that that's a reasonable. EXPECTATION i would

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Speaker 4: probably give The penguins a slightly better than fifty to

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Speaker 4: fifty chance to get, in but they might do it

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00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: as a wild. Card that cause wasn't helped any last

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Speaker 4: night When boston went Into buffalo and beat The. Sabers

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Speaker 4: but you, know it's it's not something THAT i would

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Speaker 4: rule out just. Yet AND i agree with you about

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Speaker 4: The Blue. Jackets the transformation in that team Since Rick

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00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: bonus took over as coach has been nothing shy of,

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Speaker 4: remarkable kind of like the change In buffalo after your

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Speaker 4: monkeyth The lion took over as AS. Gm it's the

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Speaker 4: change in both of those teams has just been.

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Speaker 2: Staggering, davy great.

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Speaker 1: Stuff you got Your penguins. Book got an illustrated timeline

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Speaker 1: in The. Pittsburghenguins When Tom morasso comes back to join

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Speaker 1: The Penguins hall Of, fame will you get him to

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Speaker 1: autograph a?

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Speaker 4: Copy you say that like you think he hasn't done it.

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Speaker 1: Already that's day Mollentaryom Mark Madden More Hockey Talk Next

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Speaker 1: hour With Dan rose OF Nhl, network and The bucko

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Speaker 1: is still five to three in the. Fourth but up

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Speaker 1: next The trifecta features O'Neil, cruise who had a lot

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Speaker 1: to do with The pirates trailing five to.

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Speaker 2: Three oh five NINETY x is Sponsor fifter The.

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Speaker 1: Trifecta No Tommy, radio but The trifecta will still be

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Speaker 1: coming at you every day WHEN i remember WHICH i did,

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Speaker 1: today it's certainly. Topical it's three things wrong with O'Neal.

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Speaker 1: Cruise number, three can't hit number, two can't field number

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Speaker 1: one is. Stupid and that's The, trifecta brought to us

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Speaker 1: By danny's Patron hogies En route eighty eight In Bethel,

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Speaker 1: Park danny's family owned and operated since nineteen. Sixty pirates now.

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Speaker 1: Trail oh, wait they just scored? Again did Why i'll

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Speaker 1: get another? Hit dear, god he's a one man. Gang oh,

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Speaker 1: No Henry davis gonna double. Wow six to Four mets,

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Speaker 1: Scored pirate. Scored but in that kind of, game uh

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Speaker 1: After cruise misplayed those two fly balls so, badly there's

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00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: already A u and cry for. Him to switch back

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Speaker 1: to shortstop that's On twitter where, else and then Put

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Speaker 1: mangum in center, field who's very fast and, versatile but

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Speaker 1: he's a single, sitter and Move triola to. THIRD i don't.

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Speaker 1: KNOW i don't Think cruse is going to get switched

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Speaker 1: back to. SHORTSTOP i just don't think The pirates are

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Speaker 1: going to do.

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Speaker 2: That, Uh cruise is just a.

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Speaker 1: Bum you can't polish. Crap he's, stupid, inconsistent. UNFOCUSED i

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Speaker 1: did a, trifecta BUT i could do a ten, fecta a,

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Speaker 1: twenty a fifty fecta with the stuff that's wrong with

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Speaker 1: him and how overrated he, is and yeahs, talent he's twenty.

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Speaker 2: Seven it's never gonna come.

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00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: Good skeens got his ass, kicked AND i know people

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Speaker 1: are blaming the two crews miscues in center field that

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Speaker 1: warn't scored his, airs but he should have made the.

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Speaker 1: Play but he let in five earned. Runs he looked

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Speaker 1: rattled out there right off the get. GO i understand

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Speaker 1: where they pulled him so quick because he threw thirty

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00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: seven pitches in two thirds of an. Inning but it

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Speaker 1: is a bad start For skeens by any. Definition so

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on how he looked if you were watching

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Speaker 1: dial a three three four one TWO. Wxdx, UH i

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Speaker 1: saw one of The mets base wunners wearing would appear

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Speaker 1: to be these big blue oven. Mits why do they

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Speaker 1: wear these oven? Mits can somebody tell me? That is

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Speaker 1: it to keep from spraining a finger when his slide head?

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Speaker 1: First it looks it looks really. DUMB i mean maybe

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Speaker 1: he has some brown in the.

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Speaker 2: OVEN i don't. KNOW i hope they're special.

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Speaker 1: Brownies and, then, uh every team has some ceremony they

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Speaker 1: do in the dog out when a guy it's a home.

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00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: RUN i Saw Brandon law who has two home runs,

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Speaker 1: today wearing some kind of mask like A Michael myers.

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Speaker 2: Mask is that what it?

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Speaker 1: Was if anybody can smart me up on that eight

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Speaker 1: three three four one two W, XDX i need smartened

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Speaker 1: up a. Lot I'M i have book born and, intelligence

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Speaker 1: but MY i have the attention span of a.

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Speaker 2: Goat.

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Speaker 1: Uh speaking to which this is a great. Story how

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Speaker 1: About Floyd mayweather had career earnings of one point two

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Speaker 1: billion and he declared bankruptcy made.

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00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: One point two, billion declared.

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Speaker 1: Bankruptcy Floyd, mayweather here's some great factoids as to why he's.

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Speaker 1: Bankrupt he never wore a pair of underwear, twice always

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Speaker 1: knew underwear.

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Speaker 2: THAT i.

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Speaker 1: Respect he spent TWELVE k a week at the Same japanese.

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Speaker 1: Teakos what the freak did the? Order he had thirty Three?

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Speaker 1: Mercedes where do you put thirty Three? Mercedes he bet

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00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: five point nine mil on a SINGLE nba game and

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00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: now he's, bankrupt and so he's gonna Fight Mike.

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00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Tyson mayweather's. Old tyson's older.

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Speaker 6: And.

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Speaker 1: EVERYTHING i just, said it's a, shame not least that

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Speaker 1: two old guys are gonna. Fight But Floyd mayweather has

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00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: had more fun than just about. Anybody i'd be willing

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: to bet on, that not five point nine. Million and you,

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00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: see this is why boxing. Sucks you Have Jake, paul

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00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: who's a total, fraud being the guy everybody wants to see,

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Speaker 1: fight and then you got these two old guys fighting

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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i don't know What tyson's money situation, is But

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00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: mayweather because he's.

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00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: Broke BUT i, mean it's.

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00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: SAD i, mean but then, Again Jake, paul he's given

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Speaker 1: the people what they.

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00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: Want in his, case it's the people that are. Stupid.

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Speaker 1: Uh first hour of the show brought to was by

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Speaker 1: our good friends At, Shandorovich shandrovitch And Fishmen penguins with

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Speaker 1: a monster of a game At ottawa. Tonight we're gonna

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Speaker 1: and THE Nhl network joins. Me at three Thirty pirates

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Speaker 1: drill six' four in the top of, the fifth still

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Speaker 1: at a game, to play But the pirates pull this

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Speaker 1: one out and uh, Up next i'm gonna tell YOU

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Speaker 1: why i am afraid OF The nfl draft Coming.

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Speaker 2: To pittsburgh what's. Gonna happen i'm scared.

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Speaker 1: TO death i am scared to death one oh FIVE

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