Speaker 1: Friday mornings here Scott Sloan on seven hundred WLW, so
Speaker 1: this week and you're probably gonna spend a lot more
Speaker 1: time in front of devices than you do during the week,
Speaker 1: right just because you're not working hopefully and you yourself.
Speaker 2: On average, you have around twenty one devices which are
Speaker 2: online in various places throughout the day, all of them
Speaker 2: using data pretty much all the time. And with the
Speaker 2: AI boom comes the need for more data centers. Thus
Speaker 2: the debate so here in the Tri State, the debate
Speaker 2: over regulations being fought tooth and nail. And if you
Speaker 2: don't think this affects you, it's probably coming to your area,
Speaker 2: no matter if you live in the city or in
Speaker 2: the outlining area special rural areas Ohio. Right now we're
Speaker 2: fifth nationally for data center development. We want to be
Speaker 2: number one. The state. ESUS is an economic machine force
Speaker 2: to get us on the technology well at the top
Speaker 2: of the technology map. I guess City of Cincinnati's you
Speaker 2: may or may not know, it's getting very proactive. They
Speaker 2: just put a temporary moratorium on data centers in the
Speaker 2: city while they do a zoning study. Adams County. Last
Speaker 2: night there was another meeting over well, we really don't know.
Speaker 2: This is probably the most interesting battle over data centers
Speaker 2: is that adding the controversy over these plants comes a
Speaker 2: plan here in Adams County that's completely secret because Economic
Speaker 2: Development director signed a non disclosure y agreement and nobody
Speaker 2: really knows what it's going to be, where it's going
Speaker 2: to go, and what it's going to do. Other than that,
Speaker 2: everything's great. Alex shafers here, Alex is a resident and
Speaker 2: he's proactive in the process of finding out if this
Speaker 2: is right for his community, and he's out in Adams
Speaker 2: County and the Monroe Township and joins the show this morning. Alex, welcome,
Speaker 2: are you brother? Yeah, good to have you. So last
Speaker 2: night there was a meeting and I know basically the
Speaker 2: bottom line is you're not going to do a more
Speaker 2: toim like City Cincinnati has, but you're going to make
Speaker 2: sure there's some strict zoning regulations in place. So it's
Speaker 2: it's progressing, it's moving forward.
Speaker 3: It's progressing, it's moving forward. There's a lot of community
Speaker 3: input last night, and essentially the role of the trustees
Speaker 3: now within the township is they are going to work
Speaker 3: with outside legal counsel to put in the framework for zoning,
Speaker 3: you know, within these industrial areas within the township, because
Speaker 3: everybody was on the same page where we have to
Speaker 3: get more information, we have to have more facts, and
Speaker 3: more importantly, we have to know even who these people
Speaker 3: are that are wanting to come in and what they're
Speaker 3: wanting to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what raised the red flags for you about
Speaker 2: these projects and what motive motivated you to get involved.
Speaker 3: You know, these sites at Stewart and Killing Station, Killing
Speaker 3: is in and Roe Township have been empty for roughly
Speaker 3: eight years since the power plant shut down, and a
Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with the site cleanup.
Speaker 3: And those were the economic drivers of our county, and
Speaker 3: Adams County is such a prideful, beautiful countryside, but those
Speaker 3: were the economic drivers that really our community was built around.
Speaker 3: So it is these are general generational issues that we
Speaker 3: have in our county and we want to make sure
Speaker 3: that we're doing the right things. So not only us,
Speaker 3: but our children and our grandchildren are proud to continue
Speaker 3: to live and remain in Adams County.
Speaker 2: So this isn't completely going. Hey, we don't want a
Speaker 2: data center, we don't want any of this stuff. Stay
Speaker 2: the hell out of our town.
Speaker 3: No, I would say everyone is of the mindset where
Speaker 3: as I would akin these NDAs too that mister Worley
Speaker 3: signed is you're essentially agreen to get married before you've
Speaker 3: even seen who you're going on a date with. So
Speaker 3: you know, we need to have more facts, and we
Speaker 3: need to know exactly who these companies are. Are they
Speaker 3: are they you know, companies based in the US, so
Speaker 3: are they foreign based companies? And you know what exactly
Speaker 3: the plans are because there's so many different variables that
Speaker 3: come into play.
Speaker 2: And I think that's a critical point because in this
Speaker 2: particular case, and we'll get into the NDA battle in
Speaker 2: just a second. And Paul Worley, I believe is the
Speaker 2: Economic Development director for Adams County, he signed out with
Speaker 2: a company. But you guys have no idea on you know,
Speaker 2: the size and scope of the project, the exact location.
Speaker 2: I mean, you could kind of figure that out maybe
Speaker 2: with EPA records, but if you don't know the company,
Speaker 2: you don't know even if it's a data center or
Speaker 2: the type of services they offer before this thing goes in.
Speaker 3: So the projects that are being proposed in Spring Township
Speaker 3: are a little bit further along, specifically, at Stewart seite,
Speaker 3: and there's also Buck Canyon site which is across the
Speaker 3: road too soon in Row is very much earlier on
Speaker 3: in the process, which is very fortunate. And so that's
Speaker 3: precisely it. You know, we we have to have more
Speaker 3: information on this because they're I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 3: a black hole right now for the county.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the Economic Development director signs this non disclosure
Speaker 2: agreement with a couple of companies and says, we've got
Speaker 2: to do this and they'll be transparency if the project
Speaker 2: gets to a point. So, you know, how do you
Speaker 2: respond to residents like yourself being asked to wait for
Speaker 2: details until the deals are newly finalized. What point is
Speaker 2: it too late for meaningful public input?
Speaker 3: I think that starts at the time that you actually
Speaker 3: signed the NDAs. You know, Paul Whorley executed two NDAs,
Speaker 3: one in January of twenty twenty four, the other one
Speaker 3: was in November of this year, and based on my
Speaker 3: tracing them, it's my opinion that they are linked to
Speaker 3: Amazon because the framework around the NDAs is the same
Speaker 3: as what's going on in Mount War right now in
Speaker 3: Brown County. And you know, to that point, and I
Speaker 3: had raised this issue in discussions with some of the
Speaker 3: commissioners on Monday. Is Paul Worley serves at the pleasure
Speaker 3: of the Board of Commissioners in Adams County. So how
Speaker 3: is the Board of Commissioners able to oversee Paul discharging
Speaker 3: his job duties for the board and thus in the
Speaker 3: best interest of the county if they cannot even monitor
Speaker 3: what he is working on. Who is who he is
Speaker 3: working with on these sites?
Speaker 2: Sure, but from the company standpoint, be it Amazon or
Speaker 2: whatever it might be, we don't know. At this point.
Speaker 2: He's kind of like the conduit. So in these deals,
Speaker 2: you get a guy like him, an economic development guy,
Speaker 2: signs a non disclosure agreement with whoever's building this thing,
Speaker 2: which is kind of standard practice because you know, they
Speaker 2: want to keep the secret for as long as pass
Speaker 2: from the competition because there's a lot of proprietary technical
Speaker 2: information of all. But the people who don't sign it
Speaker 2: would be the the elected lawmakers, right that would be
Speaker 2: the county commissioners of Adams County. And so at some
Speaker 2: point there's going to have to be a you know,
Speaker 2: disclosure so that you can you can vote on this.
Speaker 2: So based on that is this anything? Is this? Is
Speaker 2: this different than how it's done elsewhere? Not that it
Speaker 2: makes it right, but you know what I'm saying is like,
Speaker 2: if this is standard practice, I get why Amazon or
Speaker 2: whoever is trying to protect their interests here because you know,
Speaker 2: you don't want all this information out there until you
Speaker 2: get a deal kind of put together.
Speaker 3: The debate on whether NDA is a standard practice or
Speaker 3: not really dependent on who you ask. I can tell
Speaker 3: you in certain areas and Columbus, which Columbus has over
Speaker 3: one hundred data centers right now, is not the most
Speaker 3: standard practice. And to your point about competition, that is
Speaker 3: actually what NDAs specifically inhibit. My degree is in economics
Speaker 3: from Ohio State University, and when you put an NDA
Speaker 3: in place, that prohibits you from even looking at other
Speaker 3: alternatives as to those sites and those developments, thus reducing competition.
Speaker 3: What happens when you reduce competition, you harm the consumer.
Speaker 3: Who's the consumer here, the residents of Adams County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get the argument, and you guys, you
Speaker 2: definitely should have a hand in the process here. We
Speaker 2: don't want government just going out. No, we know what's best,
Speaker 2: and that's it doesn't work that way, county officials there
Speaker 2: will switch to the jobs saying, they said, well, seven
Speaker 2: hundred seven hundred jobs lost with the power plant closures
Speaker 2: there in Adams County. Another five and a half million
Speaker 2: from a school funding gets pulled off because as they said, look,
Speaker 2: I've got hey, listen, this is going to help support
Speaker 2: the tax space here. But as I understand it, data
Speaker 2: centers are obviously exempt from property taxes because it's commercial.
Speaker 2: What about the job creation now, So.
Speaker 3: Job creation, the studies have shown that you have to
Speaker 3: have roughly twenty million dollars of capital input costs to
Speaker 3: create one full time job. So if you have a
Speaker 3: billion dollar data center development, you are only going to
Speaker 3: create roughly fifty jobs, Whereas if you look at other
Speaker 3: industrial usages for that site that actually provide you know,
Speaker 3: not only additional jobs and infrastructure and increase land value
Speaker 3: for the community. You are actually specifically targeting a broader workforce,
Speaker 3: the technical skill set of the workforce that we have
Speaker 3: in Adams County. And it's also then benefiting the community
Speaker 3: for people to work there and also the school districts
Speaker 3: in terms of the generation of those taxes from the payroll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what about the element of what about then
Speaker 1: this is you know, the t love the trades, but
Speaker 1: there's been like over a thousand, around one thousand construction
Speaker 1: jobs for up to five years, and some of those
Speaker 1: would have to be in place for maintenance because a
Speaker 1: minute you finished this huge project and to take you
Speaker 1: three years, you're going to start having to refit some
Speaker 1: areas that were done three years ago because it's technology
Speaker 1: to change as rapidly. So some of the estimates say,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe one hundred million plus in local wages,
Speaker 1: one thousand, two thousand workers, eighty percent of those will
Speaker 1: be in radius of where you live. Those jobs are
Speaker 1: nothing to some of your nose.
Speaker 4: At there are nothing good.
Speaker 5: Some of your knows that.
Speaker 3: But I think you have to look at the actual
Speaker 3: data in terms of the payroll. And I've talked about
Speaker 3: this with David Gifford, the county auditor, who's a good
Speaker 3: friend of mine. And you know, when people try and
Speaker 3: say these auxiliary jobs that are created in the permanency
Speaker 3: of them, the numbers simply do not support that in
Speaker 3: the payroll records, and the auditor has that, and I
Speaker 3: think you also overall, with these data centers in the
Speaker 3: job creation, you have to look at what's happening in
Speaker 3: the Greater Columbus area with Intel, where essentially Mike Dwine
Speaker 3: sold the farm to Intel and we had and the
Speaker 3: plants were supposed to open last year, and they were
Speaker 3: all these financial incentives and benchmarks that were supposed to
Speaker 3: be met by them. They have not might have the
Speaker 3: option to enforce those agreement last year, and he basically said, no,
Speaker 3: it's okay. You know, you can do whatever you want
Speaker 3: here in Ohio. So what would make the situation any
Speaker 3: different in appal Asha areas?
Speaker 5: And now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, But at the same time, you look at it
Speaker 2: and go, are there industries that are are knocking at
Speaker 2: the door and trying to get their way into Adams
Speaker 2: County right now? You know, you mentioned Columbus, Cincinnati, the
Speaker 2: big cities. A lot of companies want to do business
Speaker 2: in those areas. It makes a lot of sense for
Speaker 2: reasons we don't The obvious reasons would be infrastructures are
Speaker 2: ready in place. But you know, Adams County I lost jobs,
Speaker 2: power plants. Is it kind of like you're turning your
Speaker 2: nose up with a good thing or you're trying to
Speaker 2: basically avoid a slam dunk here I mean, I think
Speaker 2: people see this and go, well, it's Adams County. It's
Speaker 2: not like and it's not being I'm not being derogatory.
Speaker 2: It's just like, there are in companies that are looking
Speaker 2: to knock the door down to Adams County at this point.
Speaker 1: Are there.
Speaker 3: No, I would disagree with that. The sites have been
Speaker 3: looked at for a multiple for a multitude of different
Speaker 3: sectors over the years. And again, I think it's important
Speaker 3: for people to remember that once the power plans close,
Speaker 3: it's not like you can just open up, you know,
Speaker 3: a new enterprise there the next day. There's so much
Speaker 3: environmental cleanup the head to be done with King Fisher
Speaker 3: Partners to come in.
Speaker 2: It's a brownfield, yeah exactly, precisely, yes, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 2: butt Okay, so there's some infrastructure there, but people are well, well,
Speaker 2: I'd rather build something, you know. At the same time,
Speaker 2: you know, these data centers take a lot of power,
Speaker 2: so you know, put two and two together, it's pretty
Speaker 2: obvious that you want to be near water, which you have,
Speaker 2: and you want to be near you know, megawats of electricity.
Speaker 3: They're easily accessible, correct, And we do have the power
Speaker 3: grid there in place, and you know, this is something
Speaker 3: that a big Ramaswami has discussed about the strain on
Speaker 3: the power grid right now, and there's currently a House
Speaker 3: bill in place, House built six forty six sitting in
Speaker 3: the House Rules Committee in terms of actually setting a
Speaker 3: thirteen member commission to study these data centers because of
Speaker 3: the boom of them in Ohio, because of the strain
Speaker 3: on our electrical grid. So I kind of akin it
Speaker 3: to people as this is, how are we going to
Speaker 3: can continue as a society to supply the power and
Speaker 3: energy to these data centers because they are not they
Speaker 3: are they are an energy input. They are they are
Speaker 3: not an energy export if we do not have facilities
Speaker 3: in place to actually generate that power for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked about this a lot of my show
Speaker 2: Well in the Future, And you know, you're in the
Speaker 2: tech sector as well, So it's not like you know,
Speaker 2: your lutt your scrim at the old man, scream at
Speaker 2: the clouds and saying damn computers go away, right, I
Speaker 2: mean you lean we all lean into it. We're all
Speaker 2: and it's it's such a paradox, right, Alex, because we're
Speaker 2: all guilty of this. We all have devices. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're talking you know digitally. Right now I'm recording you digitally.
Speaker 2: It's going into a cloud. And so we're guilty of
Speaker 2: this ourselves right now. We have no choice but to
Speaker 2: figure out a way we can all live with us absolutely.
Speaker 3: And you know, my company uses you know, cloud servers,
Speaker 3: and you know, we have to have them as socide
Speaker 3: and we have to have them also in terms of
Speaker 3: national intelligence and also being independent from you know, foreign control.
Speaker 3: And I think we all saw what happened with COVID
Speaker 3: when manufacturing shut down and the rest of the world
Speaker 3: look that, you know, Oh my god, look how the
Speaker 3: pendent we are upon China. So you know, that is definitely,
Speaker 3: you know, a great point. And that's the thing I
Speaker 3: think everyone's standpoint is we are not saying no to
Speaker 3: data centers overall, but in terms of specifically the locations
Speaker 3: and the phases in which you possibly would put those
Speaker 3: in and where you would put those in at is
Speaker 3: what the biggest concern is with not having any information
Speaker 3: from these companies.
Speaker 2: The number one of the biggest outside of transparency the
Speaker 2: politics of it, which generally they tend to settle down
Speaker 2: at some point. What's the biggest concern for residents would
Speaker 2: you say there Alex Schaeffer and Adam's count over this.
Speaker 3: I would say specifically where they're proposing it is, you know,
Speaker 3: the landscape in you know, the southern part of Adams County,
Speaker 3: the hills and the river and everything is what makes
Speaker 3: Adams County beautiful. And also, you know, you know, the
Speaker 3: side effects that you have from the data center's long
Speaker 3: term is something that again we don't know about. So
Speaker 3: if the state is at the process to where they're
Speaker 3: looking at creating a thirteen member committee to study those effects,
Speaker 3: then us as Adams County should sit here and look
Speaker 3: at it and say, okay, if this is a broader
Speaker 3: issue at the state and obviously the national level, you know,
Speaker 3: we don't have the ability as a small community to
Speaker 3: fight this later on down the road. So we don't
Speaker 3: want to make the wrong decision now that we look
Speaker 3: back ten years and we're like, what did.
Speaker 2: We do right? It's hard because you know, you're at
Speaker 2: the tip of the spirit at this point. There are
Speaker 2: not many other piers you can look at that have
Speaker 2: been doing this for you twenty years and see what
Speaker 2: the long term effects are. You got to make a
Speaker 2: decision that's going to impact the next hundred exactly.
Speaker 3: And you know that's that's honestly the problem in society
Speaker 3: with a lot of things, whether that's technology or medicine,
Speaker 3: and you know, we have to continue to evolve and adapt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are unforeseen consequences that no one can predict.
Speaker 2: And usually that's the case, we didn't we didn't think
Speaker 2: of that, or we didn't see that coming. Because while
Speaker 2: the world is always changing, for sure, so are the
Speaker 2: next steps here.
Speaker 3: So from around township right now, they're in the process
Speaker 3: of obtaining outside legal councils start trapped in the framework
Speaker 3: for what they want to put in for zoning. Specifically
Speaker 3: their sprig Sprig Township has a meeting I believe it
Speaker 3: is February twenty third, and there there is going to
Speaker 3: be some more information hopefully that'll come out about at
Speaker 3: that standpoint. And so overall for the county, the commissioners
Speaker 3: have promised to have more public input and a more
Speaker 3: dedicated special meeting to this. But again I think it's
Speaker 3: very important to point out, you know, in terms of
Speaker 3: these developments, the Board of Commissioners has the option and
Speaker 3: to direct mister Warley to recuse himself from these NDAs
Speaker 3: and that prevents these companies moving forward with the speed
Speaker 3: that they would like and garner that public input and
Speaker 3: have these representatives come in and talk to the community,
Speaker 3: talk to us about what their plans are and how
Speaker 3: they want to integrate themselves into our county in a
Speaker 3: way that we're proud of, just like General Electric has
Speaker 3: done with their jet engine testing facility in.
Speaker 2: People makes sense, you think Cincinnata has it right putting
Speaker 2: the moratory monus.
Speaker 3: It did, I do, and several other townships and Columbus
Speaker 3: have done that. Jerome Township, Washington Township, and the City
Speaker 3: of Dublin have done that. And they have data centers
Speaker 3: kind of around the perimeter of the City of Dublin.
Speaker 3: And because you know right now it's an arms race
Speaker 3: for data centers, it truly is, and that stems from,
Speaker 3: I believe, you know, a technological arms race with China.
Speaker 3: So again, in order for us to properly look at
Speaker 3: this for our future, and look at the side effects,
Speaker 3: and look at where we want to see these things
Speaker 3: in the landscape of our communities, we have to put
Speaker 3: the pause button in place, get more information, get more facts,
Speaker 3: and surely be able to make candidly a more educated
Speaker 3: and informed decision.
Speaker 2: Alex Schaeffer is a residence in Adams County and it's
Speaker 2: certainly one of the more interesting cases because of NDAs
Speaker 2: and land and not knowing what really is going to
Speaker 2: go and who even owns the data center for that point.
Speaker 2: But it's a great example to look at for the
Speaker 2: rest of us because Alex, as a resident is getting involved.
Speaker 2: He's being proactive in the process of finding out if
Speaker 2: it's right for his community and where he lives and breathes,
Speaker 2: he eats, and works. And that's a battles you hearing
Speaker 2: this's going well, that's Adams County, but guess what it's
Speaker 2: happening in Cincy. It's going to happen in not only
Speaker 2: the city, but it's going to happen in maybe suburban areas,
Speaker 2: but particularly rural areas, Butler County, Mount Orb. The list
Speaker 2: goes on and on and on. So it's a battle
Speaker 2: we're all going to have to face, or an issue
Speaker 2: we're going to have to face, I guess, and figure
Speaker 2: out how to to what the best practice is that
Speaker 2: it's not going away, We're going to have to put
Speaker 2: them somewhere. How do we coexist? I guess is a question.
Speaker 2: It's a great case, Alex. We'll talk again in the future,
Speaker 2: I'm sure.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on and shedding some light on this issue.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and Scott, you know on behalf of the people
Speaker 3: of Adams County. Thank you for having me on to
Speaker 3: allow us to raise our voice on your platform into
Speaker 3: the greater Tri State area. We are truly and greatly
Speaker 3: appreciative of all.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, brother, and again we'll talk soon. Thanks again,
Speaker 2: Thanks Scott. All right, there you go, Alex Schaeffer on
Speaker 2: the show. Yeah you hear that, you go. It doesn't really,
Speaker 2: it doesn't concern it, does it concerned? We're the ones
Speaker 2: doing it right. We use all this stuff as far
Speaker 2: as information goes in data. We're using it right now.
Speaker 2: You're using it right and we're all using it. We
Speaker 2: have no choice. This is it is what it is.
Speaker 2: It's the future too. So can we lean and make
Speaker 2: money and make Ohio a more vibrant and improve our
Speaker 2: economy because of Intel, because of AWS et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But we also have to live where these plans are too.
Speaker 2: So watching these guys, I think it's a great test
Speaker 2: case for all of us. If you Will.
Speaker 1: Anyway, We'll continue to follow that. Scott's Loan Show continues
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Speaker 1: Hey, Will, good morning, Good morning. That sounded ominous. Good morning, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to try it again? Three two one, Good
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Speaker 5: Hello.
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Speaker 6: the first episode was like, oh my god, I've never
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Speaker 2: if you're featured on that show, kill yourself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a reminder that it could always be worse.
Speaker 5: Whatever it is, it could be worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't know what that dynamic is, but it sounds
Speaker 2: a lot like that, Like, well, my neighbor's kind of
Speaker 2: a jerk, you know, because he makes a lot of
Speaker 2: but at least he's not doing.
Speaker 5: This exactly exactly.
Speaker 6: At least he's not on TikTok, you know, posting videos
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Speaker 5: It's just it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Well because that's a whole category on you know, YouTube TikTok.
Speaker 2: And said, insert these photos, these these videos of neighbors
Speaker 2: who are out of their minds apparently, but every things
Speaker 2: out of context. At least this has some context, I would.
Speaker 5: Think, right right this you get the full story.
Speaker 6: It's like we, you know, my husband and wife moved
Speaker 6: here for you know, my wife and I moved here
Speaker 6: from you know, Seattle, and we just wanted a little
Speaker 6: more space and all of a sudden, the neighbors.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this you get a backstory, You get both
Speaker 6: sides of the story, which is pretty interesting.
Speaker 5: You know that one of the things about this too.
Speaker 6: I'm always like, I can't believe everybody signs up to
Speaker 6: be a part of this, right, you know, like really,
Speaker 6: but but they do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. There was one on I think
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Speaker 1: and you may recall it.
Speaker 2: It was. It was in Florida. Everything good is Florida, Florida,
Speaker 2: and this this woman, this older woman, just angry at
Speaker 2: the world. And the kids would play like in an
Speaker 2: open lot next to her house and make noise, and
Speaker 2: then she would document and like take their stuff and
Speaker 2: threaten them and and uh, you know, at one point
Speaker 2: a mom went over because she was like physically touching
Speaker 2: the kid or did something, took their iPad and threw
Speaker 2: it or something like that. I mean, their kids, they're
Speaker 2: playing football or whatever, and I'd rather have that than them,
Speaker 2: you know, doing bad stuff. Anyway, she feels like they're
Speaker 2: walking on her property and she's got lines up in
Speaker 2: the camera and the whole thing. And then the mom
Speaker 2: comes and pounds on her door because she's had enough
Speaker 2: and this woman shoots her to death through the door,
Speaker 2: and it's all the whole the whole narrative, and the
Speaker 2: whole story's done on police body camps.
Speaker 5: Wow, wow, crazy, I remember this show.
Speaker 2: I don't remember the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was.
Speaker 2: It's like times it's hard to watch because there's little
Speaker 2: kids and she just like shoots us mom to death.
Speaker 2: Crazy lady. So you think your neighbor's bad. But we
Speaker 2: live in a what and we'll get to the other
Speaker 2: stuff in the second world. But psychologically speaking, because you're
Speaker 2: a psychologist, uh, why don't we Why do we watch this?
Speaker 2: Because the world right now is so damn depressing. Everyone
Speaker 2: complains that, you know, everyone's at each other's throats. There's
Speaker 2: so much hatred and vitriol, and yet instead of going
Speaker 2: and watching something uplifting, we watched stuff that makes us
Speaker 2: more depressed. Does that make any sense?
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think, you know, there's a part
Speaker 5: of it that.
Speaker 6: I think is a little bit like you know, you
Speaker 6: you do look at it and it's like a solvable
Speaker 6: problem from a distance, right, It's like, Okay, if I
Speaker 6: was in this situation, I would do this thing, and
Speaker 6: you can think about, you know, how I would solve
Speaker 6: this problem, and the stakes are non existent because you're
Speaker 6: not actually in the problem. So I think that's probably
Speaker 6: part of it. And I do think there might be
Speaker 6: a part of it that's like, Okay, my life is bad.
Speaker 2: But it's not that bad. Yeah, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's just like and that because I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: want to watch any more depressing them around news all day.
Speaker 2: It depresses the hell I mean, And then I'll go
Speaker 2: and I'll watch I'll sit down and binge that this weekend.
Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense, doesn't make any sense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: as long as I'm not showing up on the show,
Speaker 2: We're good, all right, We'll dance our ABC Entertainment expert
Speaker 2: out of New York. This has my wife written all
Speaker 2: over down FX. It's called Love Story.
Speaker 6: Yes, it's a JFK Junior and Carolyn Bessett, And this
Speaker 6: is not a docu theories, so this actors playing everybody involved.
Speaker 6: And the first three episodes dropped on FX, which means
Speaker 6: you could probably watch it on Hulu or Disney Plus
Speaker 6: if you have that bundle. And it tells the love
Speaker 6: story of JFK. Junior and Carolyn Bessett starting in the
Speaker 6: early nineties all the way up through their death in
Speaker 6: ninety nine.
Speaker 5: And you know it is it's well acted.
Speaker 6: While told, it has ninety percent on Rotten Tomatoes, so
Speaker 6: critics are into it as well. And yeah, it's just
Speaker 6: a fascinating you know, Look, it's not just a recreation
Speaker 6: of the moments we know for media coverage. There's a
Speaker 6: lot of backstory here too. And you know what we
Speaker 6: were not seeing that was going on behind the scenes
Speaker 6: as these two were falling in love.
Speaker 2: Huh. And it ends with their ultimately their death And
Speaker 2: is that like, is that a culminate that.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Which wasn't a pleasant way to go. But all right,
Speaker 2: that's I mean, if you're you're I guess you're fastied
Speaker 2: by the history of the Kennedys.
Speaker 1: You don't really hear that much about I mean, it
Speaker 1: was alive, you did, but you didn't really. I don't
Speaker 1: think it got that much play when up until that
Speaker 1: the time they died. You know, it's like one of
Speaker 1: those stories, Oh yeah, John John Kennedy, but you don't
Speaker 1: you don't really hear much about them.
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe it's me, I didn't follow. I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think, you know, like all
Speaker 6: these other you know, the way we did the crown
Speaker 6: for the British royal family, I think now it's people
Speaker 6: digging into some American royalty, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and that's on FX right, yes, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: And of course the plane crash in ninety nine took
Speaker 2: their lives, and it's a I guess, you know, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna go and you're in love, that is a
Speaker 2: romantic way to go, I suppose, not that you know,
Speaker 2: certainly is untimely and unfortunate, but you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: a timely, it's it's romantic. And how they died, I suppose.
Speaker 2: And then finally, Marty Supreme is available for rent, and
Speaker 2: I recall that isn't that an wasn't that an Oscar
Speaker 2: nominated Oscar winning film?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it is nominated for several Oscars, including for
Speaker 6: Timothy Shallomey, who plays this nineteen fifties sort of ping
Speaker 6: pong prodigy who is willing to do whatever it to
Speaker 6: get to the top. And so you know, there is
Speaker 6: Pingpong in the movie, but there's a lot of like
Speaker 6: wheeling and dealing in him, you know, doing whatever he
Speaker 6: can to get money to go play in Japan, and
Speaker 6: whether it's stealing somebody's dog and returning it for ransom
Speaker 6: or lying about the ransom or whatever. It is high stress,
Speaker 6: but it is a very entertaining movie. So it is
Speaker 6: finally available to stream at home. You'll have to pay
Speaker 6: to rent it. But if you're into want to be
Speaker 6: into the Oscar conversation, you know, at work or whenever
Speaker 6: the Oscars are next month, this is definitely worth checking out.
Speaker 2: It's a busy shell man man, he's on a run.
Speaker 2: He can't do any wrong. He just came out on
Speaker 2: the seat and just took over one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: He's the youngest person to have three Oscar nominations ever.
Speaker 5: Which it's yeah, crazyright.
Speaker 2: Prodigt y aah right, And I did not know that
Speaker 2: was a theme in the movie. That sounds interesting to me,
Speaker 2: so I'm might have to check that out again. Well,
Speaker 2: gat tot ABC in New York, so HBO Max, it's
Speaker 2: neighbors killing each other. Then you got the Kennedy's dying
Speaker 2: in a plane crash, and ultimately it's Martin Supreme killing
Speaker 2: people in ping pong. So it is a death Valentine's weekend. Well,
Speaker 2: all the best, thanks for coming on. Appreciate your brother.
Speaker 2: We'll talk next Friday. All right, I have a good one,
Speaker 2: all the best.
Speaker 1: We've get a news update here seconds away, quick time
Speaker 1: out Scott's loan seven hundred wty other Scott's Loan seven
Speaker 1: hundred wit Friday morning is here.
Speaker 2: Whether it's looking good, rain moving intomorrowho cares. So it's
Speaker 2: gonna be warm. Maybe it's gonna be warm or more warm,
Speaker 2: and not just the romance? Am I right? All right?
Speaker 2: So we've got news coming about six minutes here on
Speaker 2: the show, and I'll get more into the government shutting
Speaker 2: down again, stupidity of it all. But the Save Act
Speaker 2: passed yay, But did we need it? I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that coming up at the ten o
Speaker 2: seven when it comes to non citizens voting in US elections,
Speaker 2: which we know not to be happening on a large scale,
Speaker 2: and yet we are passing laws to prevent that from happening.
Speaker 2: Even more so, where's the harm? There to be the question,
Speaker 2: and we'll get to that after a ten o six
Speaker 2: today on the show. I know a little heavier for
Speaker 2: a Friday generally light now, but don't worry. Alsten will
Speaker 2: be here a little bit later on ten thirty six.
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little sports. I know, major League Baseball
Speaker 2: making some rule changes, also a change in regime. Why
Speaker 2: not really At the Reds, Phil Castellini will be taking
Speaker 2: over for his dad Bob. We'll see what changes with
Speaker 2: the Reds, what's expected and is this really that impactful
Speaker 2: to us here in Reds Country awaiting Euenia Suarez and
Speaker 2: the Reds who, by the way, first spring training game
Speaker 2: is next week coming up. Already, here we go, here
Speaker 2: we go, Here we go sometime next week on the show.
Speaker 2: And I know for a lot of people it's a
Speaker 2: long three day weekend, President's Weekend coming up, and I'll
Speaker 2: probably do this maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. But you hear
Speaker 2: the story. You hear stories all the time. This story
Speaker 2: today's a matter of fact. We have this woman in
Speaker 2: Goshen who is charged with stealing more than three hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars I believe from residents over several years at
Speaker 2: this nursing home she's working at. And you hear these
Speaker 2: elder abuse in eldener neglect and elder exploitation stories all
Speaker 2: the time, and it makes sense. You know, we're living
Speaker 2: much much longer than our ancestors did, and that's a
Speaker 2: wonderful thing. But there is also a downside to that.
Speaker 2: And the downside, one of the many downsides, of course,
Speaker 2: would be the fact that you know, you start to
Speaker 2: maybe lose your cognitive functions and the like because your
Speaker 2: physical bodies holding on at the mental element beat dementia, Alzheimer's,
Speaker 2: those things. We start to see more and more of that,
Speaker 2: and so we need in this day and age two
Speaker 2: where we don't live, you know, near our parents anymore. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're on the West Side, you don't have to
Speaker 2: worry about that. You're probably still you know, they're probably
Speaker 2: live next door, upstairs or whatever. Bay it's old school
Speaker 2: on the West Side. But for you know, in America today,
Speaker 2: we generally don't live near our parents, and that president's
Speaker 2: a whole host of problems, meaning you have to farm
Speaker 2: out their care when they can no longer care for themselves.
Speaker 2: So chrase like this, for example, the other one and
Speaker 2: I want to get this. I've got an attorney I'm
Speaker 2: going to have on next week from the firm. Actually
Speaker 2: is representing the family of Robert Meyer. Remember the story.
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago. He was eighty four years
Speaker 2: old and he was at hospice and Blue Ash and
Speaker 2: before that he was at in Forest Hills, and he
Speaker 2: had about less than two months to live. And he
Speaker 2: was there about two months and they trans from the hospice,
Speaker 2: and hospice, as you know, only has one door and
Speaker 2: that's in.
Speaker 1: There's no out. You don't leave hospice. You die and
Speaker 1: you're taken away from hospice, just the natural progression of life.
Speaker 1: And so mister Meyer died and they attributed it to
Speaker 1: the fact that was you know, ends life stage nutrition,
Speaker 1: wasn't get enough calories and that happens.
Speaker 2: Well, you know when you pass you just you stop eating.
Speaker 2: That's natural, that's part of the natural process. Well, I
Speaker 2: guess his daughter or family members here and said he
Speaker 2: was calling. He said, listen, they're not treating me. Well,
Speaker 2: they're not treating me. Well, he had called nine one
Speaker 2: to one. Long story short, she noticed some strangulation marks
Speaker 2: around his neck, and smartly she took photographs of said
Speaker 2: ligature marks and they said, no, it's just it's part
Speaker 2: of the care. This is what happens when you get
Speaker 2: old and you're close to death, and it's an ugly thing,
Speaker 2: and no we understand it. So anyway, long story short,
Speaker 2: she finally convinced someone to check this out, and it
Speaker 2: turns out they exhumed his body. The hemliconic corner did
Speaker 2: like Shemarco, exhumed the body and discovered it wasn't end
Speaker 2: of life nutrition, it wasn't protein catalie mal nutrition. It
Speaker 2: was actually physical elder abuse. The contributing cause of death
Speaker 2: was filled her physical elder abuse and strangulation, and it
Speaker 2: changed from natural causes to homicide. So the one may
Speaker 2: ask is, how in the hell does a hospital or
Speaker 2: in this case of foreself health care, how do they
Speaker 2: not catch this? How does he go then to hospice?
Speaker 2: The hospice doctor doesn't catch this. Hospice was just not
Speaker 2: to sign off on the cause death and doesn't even
Speaker 2: include the strangulation marks. And I think to a lesser degree,
Speaker 2: maybe the funeral home no one knows there. And all
Speaker 2: the three of these subjects are named in the civil
Speaker 2: suit that the family has against those entities, and that's
Speaker 2: shoot scheduality. It is like, well, what happens if you
Speaker 2: know my mom and dad live out of state, and
Speaker 2: I see them, you know, once in a while. I
Speaker 2: can't fly to wherever it is every weekend and go
Speaker 2: see them or spend time it go as much as
Speaker 2: I can, but you know, maybe they're in care, and
Speaker 2: I've got to trust that that facility has their best
Speaker 2: interest at heart. And then of course you have countless
Speaker 2: elder people who don't have kids or family members anymore,
Speaker 2: and so or the indigent for that matter. We start
Speaker 2: to wonder how often this happens, because the problem with
Speaker 2: healthcare right now, as you know, is that there's compassion fatigue,
Speaker 2: there's burnout, there's high turnover, because well, it's got to
Speaker 2: be about private equity coming in, and it's more about
Speaker 2: how many patients you shoot, the money you're generating, how
Speaker 2: much money make it not about quality care, not about
Speaker 2: standard of care. And there's a fine line between profit
Speaker 2: and exploiting patients. And I think, I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's the case here, but that's the problem right now
Speaker 2: in healthcare, one of the problems in healthcare. So you
Speaker 2: should say it's a fascinating stuy and a tragic one
Speaker 2: at that. And it's almost like literally you never see
Speaker 2: this happening before. I mean, how many times they exoom
Speaker 2: someone and it's murder? It sounds you you think it
Speaker 2: probably happens more often, it doesn't. Extremely rare, and that
Speaker 2: happened right here in Cincinnati, and it's a it's a
Speaker 2: sobering case for sure. Anyway, we'll get into that sometime
Speaker 2: next week on the show. But I just it's almost like,
Speaker 2: you know, talking to Will Gance, it feels like almost
Speaker 2: a Netflix show or sadly you know, date line or
Speaker 2: something along those lines. Crazy.
Speaker 1: Let me get a news update in. We'll get into
Speaker 1: the Save Act that just passed, and did we actually.
Speaker 2: Needed what to do? And more importantly, what the reason
Speaker 2: why we pass something that's to prevent something that's not
Speaker 2: happening in the first place. Will make sense of it
Speaker 2: next after news on the Home of the Red seven
Speaker 2: hundred WWT Cincinnati. You know what politicians love.
Speaker 1: Questions with no answers are correct answers. Here's your choice
Speaker 1: this issue about illegals voting.
Speaker 2: You either look at it, here's your worldview, here's your choices.
Speaker 2: You either see it as Democrats just want to legal
Speaker 2: people to vote largely for them because they'll give them
Speaker 2: free stuff, or you look at it as Republicans just
Speaker 2: want to keep people from voting. Those are your choices.
Speaker 2: It's an issue of ballot security versus ballot access. Scottsland here.
Speaker 2: I bring this up because the House of Representatives have
Speaker 2: just passed the Save America Act, and as you know,
Speaker 2: that prevent non citizens from voting in US federal elections,
Speaker 2: and this is an updated version of that, adding another
Speaker 2: layer to the other layers and other layers, this time
Speaker 2: requiring federal proof of citizenship in your voter registration photo
Speaker 2: ID for federal elections and also information sharing between state
Speaker 2: and federal authorities so they verify the citizens on the
Speaker 2: voter roles, which I think it's a good stab. We
Speaker 2: often talk about lack of communication between government agencies, state
Speaker 2: and federal in particular, and this helps rectify that, so
Speaker 2: the communication between agencies, between the people doing the bidding
Speaker 2: for us that we send to represent us are actually
Speaker 2: talking to each other. We just had a great example
Speaker 2: of a failure of that yesterday with the whatever happened
Speaker 2: in El Paso with the FAA and the military, and
Speaker 2: we're going to shut down this airfield for ten days
Speaker 2: and then an hour or two later, I never mind,
Speaker 2: We're good. Wait, what what just happened here? How can
Speaker 2: that happen? Because people don't talk to each other. So
Speaker 2: the reality of this is that it's been illegal for
Speaker 2: non citizens to vote in federal elections for over a century.
Speaker 2: It's an old law. But the question that is, okay, well,
Speaker 2: our legal people vote. Are our legals voting and elections?
Speaker 2: What's the danger? And what's the data? Show what? Show
Speaker 2: me numbers, show me proof? Okay, here are the facts.
Speaker 2: So progressive thing tanks and researchers have studied the evidence
Speaker 2: these are progressives and looked at almost twenty four million
Speaker 2: votes and determine that. And by the way, they also
Speaker 2: did a number and a sizable number disproportion number. That
Speaker 2: research was in areas of high populations non citizens. Is
Speaker 2: that important? And out of the roughly twenty three to
Speaker 2: twenty four million, they found thirty instances of suspected not actual,
Speaker 2: but suspected non citizen voting. So that's like point zero
Speaker 2: zero zero one percent, very very small. Okay, but that's progressive.
Speaker 2: What doesive conservatives say? Okay? Well, conservative watchdogs study data
Speaker 2: and they found seventy instances of illegals voting since well
Speaker 2: two thousand, so over twenty five years, so somewhere between
Speaker 2: thirty and seventy out of a country of you know,
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty million people. I'd say that's pretty statistically,
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. They also said, and this is again
Speaker 2: this from Heritage Foundation, pretty conservative. Many of those cases
Speaker 2: were actually lawful permanent residents who were pulled by a
Speaker 2: government official or a voting authority that they were eligible
Speaker 2: and they weren't. So they asked, and they said, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can vote in terms that they couldn't vote. So
Speaker 2: number of those cases of a seventy so there's an even
Speaker 2: an astrois next to that. The fact of the matter
Speaker 2: is whether you're left, right or independent, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Statistically speaking, it doesn't happen, and certainly not enough to
Speaker 2: swing an election. Okay, and both the left and the
Speaker 2: right know that's true. So how do you get to
Speaker 2: how does this actually become a thing. Well, it's you know,
Speaker 2: a great example of the politics of exaggeration and confirmation
Speaker 2: by So you ask yourself, is the risk of non
Speaker 2: citizen voting significant enough to justify more documentation requirements that
Speaker 2: may make registration harder for eligible citizens. He said, you
Speaker 2: know your answer, and the onset depends on which concern
Speaker 2: you see how you see what your world view is.
Speaker 2: Do you see fraud prevention as the real danger or
Speaker 2: do you see voting assets is a real danger. And
Speaker 2: it's either you know, Dems want oh the Democrats, they
Speaker 2: want to legals to vote, it helps them, or oh
Speaker 2: the dead and Republicans, you know, they just want to
Speaker 2: prevent people of color, people poor people from voting. So
Speaker 2: depending on world view, that's your answer. And is there
Speaker 2: a right answer to this?
Speaker 1: Not really, because I look at it, going okay, well,
Speaker 1: very very few, I said, statistically insignificant number of people
Speaker 1: are doing this, and I'm sure people a right now.
Speaker 2: We oh yeah, what about well there's a case where
Speaker 2: I get right. You know, you can find cases and go, well,
Speaker 2: this person did this, Okay, but it doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: rampant and politicians are really good at well, it's not
Speaker 2: just everyone's really good at that as cherry picking, finding
Speaker 2: someone and going well, here's your example. Okay, that's one
Speaker 2: person out of how many and if sometimes in a
Speaker 2: lot of cases it's a legitimate error on the part
Speaker 2: of the people who handle the elections telling someone they're
Speaker 2: eligible when they can't. Now me personally, I look at
Speaker 2: it going. I think it's good that the States and
Speaker 2: the FEDS are sharing information and data on people and
Speaker 2: you know, to make sure that people aren't legally voting.
Speaker 2: And the penalties are very extreme, you know, they're very
Speaker 2: severe for what's going on here. So is this a
Speaker 2: solution and sort of a problem. It really isn't, because
Speaker 2: you know, this is a great, I guess example of
Speaker 2: human nature and us as Americans, how we operate like
Speaker 2: woll okay, there's really no threat here. But it depends
Speaker 2: on what your worldview is.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of people that think illegals are voting in
Speaker 1: every election and overthrowing election and certainly doesn't help in
Speaker 1: The President says, yeah, twenty twenty was completely fraudulent, even
Speaker 1: though you know, people still believe that that it was,
Speaker 1: and there's at this point no convincing you otherwise you
Speaker 1: have your mind made up and everybody's part of the
Speaker 1: conspiracy who doesn't buy into it. You know, it's been
Speaker 1: it's been six years, and if we're still waiting for well,
Speaker 1: the MyPillow guy, for example, give us all this ov
Speaker 1: it's just not coming out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you didn't see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I've I've looked at this stuff and
Speaker 1: said in the courts of agreed, FBI's agreed. It's like okay,
Speaker 1: and now that at this point, what does that get you.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a conspiracy to fix the twenty
Speaker 1: to ring, the twenty twenty election, Trump got back in,
Speaker 1: powered down pretty much undid everything.
Speaker 2: So you know, how did he win a second term?
Speaker 2: If the system is rigged, I guess it'd be well,
Speaker 2: guess it would be Okham's razor.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: Generally, the simplest explanation is usually the right one that
Speaker 1: you just simply lost. But nonetheless, I'm gonna look at
Speaker 1: this in gocation. We have safe and secure elections like
Speaker 1: the border. Absolutely, but you know the idea that that
Speaker 1: you know, immigrants are somehow out there voting in these
Speaker 1: huge numbers, but it could happen, it could have I think, really,
Speaker 1: what's going on here, and this is a Democrat proposal
Speaker 1: that this is the backfiring of things that you push for,
Speaker 1: you know, on your agenda. One of the what I
Speaker 1: think one of the key things here is you look
Speaker 1: at I forget how it's like twenty to twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two states or something like that that allows motor voter registration.
Speaker 1: I remember when that was a debate for a while.
Speaker 1: So the law says in these states that motor vehicle offices,
Speaker 1: so the DMV can allow people to register to vote.
Speaker 2: You know, we have it. You can go in and
Speaker 2: do that, and and okay, that's good. It's like it's
Speaker 2: easy to register to vote. We want people engage in
Speaker 2: the process. But you wonder how many of these cases
Speaker 2: where someone who's a in the states. As I said
Speaker 2: that the twenty states were roughly that allow undocumented immigrants
Speaker 2: to get a driver's license, that they go in and
Speaker 2: because they don't speak the language linguish is their second
Speaker 2: language or third language, and may have misunderstood and you know,
Speaker 2: in understand not moving here. Some I think there's some
Speaker 2: people to think that they come here specifically to vote
Speaker 2: so they can undermine our system. And you got out
Speaker 2: of your mind. You think, if somebody's going to do that,
Speaker 2: just why you move? Why are you doing this? Why
Speaker 2: you come here and legally unite it so I can vote? Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: probably not happening, But I see what would happen here
Speaker 2: is if you have these easy to register to vote boxes,
Speaker 2: and again it's an affirmation, it's a checkbox. You check
Speaker 2: that box and falsely thinking yeah, would you like to vote? Sure,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the law is.
Speaker 1: I don't okay, yes, yes, yes, or maybe I misunderstood
Speaker 1: it and you register to vote. I mean that could
Speaker 1: that's a plausible scenario, right, but that is something that's
Speaker 1: done in behast of that worldview that No, my god,
Speaker 1: the Conservatives and Republicans are making it so hard for
Speaker 1: people to vote. So all we have to do is
Speaker 1: make it easier to register to vote. And when you
Speaker 1: make something easier and lower that bar, things like this
Speaker 1: may happen, which gives for their ammunition to go. We
Speaker 1: have illegals voting when they really aren't. And so I think,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to talk about conspiracy theories. I
Speaker 1: think there's a collusion going on here in a sense
Speaker 1: that they know they just play the game. They're trying
Speaker 1: to get you to see their side of things and
Speaker 1: support them and send them money because and in time
Speaker 1: you go your vote is you know how many times
Speaker 1: if you're a democh at scream when they lose elections
Speaker 1: about voter intimidation, voter suppression.
Speaker 2: Why did you lose?
Speaker 1: It's voter suppression. Now your candidate sucks. Hillary lost? Why
Speaker 1: because voter suppression be suppressing your vote. Gotta get your asked,
Speaker 1: get off your ass and vote. It's easier to vote
Speaker 1: than ever before. We need more ballot access. It's pretty
Speaker 1: much easy.
Speaker 2: You can mail you you have a month to mail
Speaker 2: your battlement. If you give a damn. It's easy af
Speaker 2: to vote. I mean, what's the next step. You want
Speaker 2: someone coming to your house saying, hey, who are you
Speaker 2: gonna vote for.
Speaker 8: It?
Speaker 1: It's easy to vote. It used to be hard to vote.
Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday. You gotta take the day off. You
Speaker 1: gotta go wait in a line. Now you didn't have
Speaker 1: all other stuff to do. There wasn't TikTok and Instagram
Speaker 1: and you know three thousand streaming channels. You actually have
Speaker 1: put the effort in back in the day. Gotta get
Speaker 1: your car, get on the bus, whatever it is, go
Speaker 1: down and vote. Now it comes to you couldn't be easier.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be easier and better for that matter, so
Speaker 1: you can do more research and actually be an informed voter.
Speaker 2: Because you're doing it at home. You're not in a
Speaker 2: box somewhere or the curtain, sweating it out, going feel
Speaker 2: like you didn't study for the exam. You open that
Speaker 2: thing up and go, what the hell question is this?
Speaker 2: Start having that high school or college flat bath flashback
Speaker 2: nightmare where you forgot to study for the final exam.
Speaker 2: What the judges? What ballot issue is it?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: You can just look it up on your phone before
Speaker 2: you vote. It's great, so voter suppression, like the voter suppression.
Speaker 2: And then the other side, of course, is screaming about,
Speaker 2: you know, ballot integrity and the elections are stolen and okay,
Speaker 2: where's the evidence? We really don't have any. But that's
Speaker 2: the cycle we are. I mean, it's you know again,
Speaker 2: the theme here on my show anyway, is just kind
Speaker 2: of thinking for yourself a little bit. I'm not the
Speaker 2: sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm not no rocket surgeon,
Speaker 2: but I kind of have a good idea when somebody's
Speaker 2: blowing smoke up my butt, like, what's your agenda, what's
Speaker 2: the bottle? What's the BS? Cut through the bsking me
Speaker 2: the facts? We don't have a There isn't rampant illegal
Speaker 2: voting going on, it's handfuls of people across the country.
Speaker 2: And is it a growing threat? No, it looks to
Speaker 2: me but pretty consistent.
Speaker 1: If you look at the evidence from the progressive resources
Speaker 1: and the conservative resources pretty much pretty close thirty between
Speaker 1: thirty and seventy over twenty five years. It's pretty find
Speaker 1: me a more convincing stat I don't think you can
Speaker 1: find one. But should we make sure our elections are secure?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The argument though, is that you know, these two sides
Speaker 2: battle and go, hey, we got to make it easier
Speaker 2: because we've got to protect people from having their vote suppressed. Okay,
Speaker 2: well it's really easy to vote right now. You can't
Speaker 2: make it any easier. How do you balance that out?
Speaker 1: Maybe this is not that well thought, is that, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we've got to have the state in the FEDS cross
Speaker 1: check and make sure you are who you say you are,
Speaker 1: and you've got to have more evidence than ever before.
Speaker 1: And largely what it does, I think is when you
Speaker 1: have these government battles like this are party battles, I
Speaker 1: guess it just makes it harder to live your life.
Speaker 1: And that's probably the source of a lot of our frustration,
Speaker 1: is it's just such a in the older you get
Speaker 1: it's true too. Because you're younger, you take it for
Speaker 1: granted as this is the way it is. And when
Speaker 1: you're older and you and you're younger now and you're
Speaker 1: listening that, you're going, okay, it makes sense. What happens
Speaker 1: is you see kind of thing ways the way things
Speaker 1: used to be. It used to be simpler.
Speaker 2: Things get more complicated, and in a lot of ways,
Speaker 2: things get easier in some other ways. And you also
Speaker 2: are a touch to some degree with I guess the
Speaker 2: modern quote unquote modern way of doing things. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: That's why it gets like old people get bitter about stuff.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's, man, how hard is this? And you
Speaker 2: go back in the day where your grandparents would go
Speaker 2: to I don't know, the pharmacy, the apothecary, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: It's like, I need a bottle of mess. Here you go.
Speaker 2: Here's a bottle. It's got a cork in it. Now, okay,
Speaker 2: I get the same medicine. And I got to push
Speaker 2: down in a cap, but I got a twist, and
Speaker 2: then there's cotton and then there's a foil thing on top,
Speaker 2: and it's in the sealed cavern and I get to
Speaker 2: get a welder to break the box open so I
Speaker 2: can get this. And what a pain in the ass.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Back in the day, we just open up, take a
Speaker 2: cork off.
Speaker 1: Now I've got a It's like the Arosetta Stone here.
Speaker 2: It's the way life always is. Though every generation has
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So I see this and go out.
Speaker 2: It's more of a pain than about ever to vote
Speaker 2: if you want a register to vote. But if you're
Speaker 2: young and new to the country, you think that's just
Speaker 2: the way it always is. And I guess you know,
Speaker 2: they're really good at just finding ways to This is
Speaker 2: a great divisive issue for the country because there is
Speaker 2: no there's no answer to this question. It's it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a puzzle. You're either all about ballot security or
Speaker 2: you're all about ballot access, and there's no little ground
Speaker 2: on this thing, and politicians absolutely love that. That's why
Speaker 2: it is such an exploitative issue in my opinion. Anyway,
Speaker 2: let me get time out in and more to follow
Speaker 2: ten thirty six. Austin Pops and Austin Elmore from ESPN
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty We talk some sports this week. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask him coming up we have the Olympics. We also
Speaker 2: have news Red's news. By the way, I think major
Speaker 2: League Baseball. I hear it's making some changes again anyways,
Speaker 2: tweak the rules. See what that is about. But Phil
Speaker 2: Castellini now is the man in charge of your Cincinnati
Speaker 2: Red Legs. How are you feeling about that? You know,
Speaker 2: Phil is not the most controversial guy in the world.
Speaker 2: But also there's some baggage with Phil Castellini and as
Speaker 2: the steward of our Red Legs, Now, how do we
Speaker 2: feel about that? We'll get into that with Austin in
Speaker 2: a few minutes. We also have some Olympics stuff going.
Speaker 2: I gotta cat touch on the Olympics though. You feel
Speaker 2: almost obligated to mention the Olympics, especially the Americans doing
Speaker 2: as well as we are too. And I saw somebody
Speaker 2: online it's just again back to the polarization, so stupid,
Speaker 2: like they show too much American stuff. Why why aren't
Speaker 2: you showing the rest of the world, you know, the
Speaker 2: globalist kind of feel. It's like, yeah, because it's NBC,
Speaker 2: it's America. I don't really I don't really care about
Speaker 2: another I don't really care about what France is doing.
Speaker 2: And figure skating right how the Latvian team is getting screwed.
Speaker 2: In hockey, I care about the USA, Like for me,
Speaker 2: it's a USA v Canada because you know, I love hockey.
Speaker 2: Hockey's my sport.
Speaker 1: And I enjoyed watching the men when when yesterday afternoon
Speaker 1: is kind of predicted h two two goals called off,
Speaker 1: which is extremely rare to do, but yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of it's kind of fun to watch. And then we
Speaker 1: got the guy.
Speaker 2: I don't really watch a lot of figure skating, but
Speaker 2: I will watch this guy try to hit a quad
Speaker 2: during the Olympics, which is I mean, that's never been
Speaker 2: done before and this this level of competition, so we've
Speaker 2: got that going on as well. I'm also, you know,
Speaker 2: the the least interesting sports in the Winter Games here,
Speaker 2: what is your most interesting and least interesting? Like if
Speaker 2: it were on, you'd stop and watch it, or if
Speaker 2: it came on going, I'm out. You know, for me,
Speaker 2: I'm not really big in a figure skating. I do
Speaker 2: want to see the guy hit the quad, but like
Speaker 2: the pairs and all that, I don't really care. Ski
Speaker 2: jumping I will always watch because there's just you You're
Speaker 2: waiting for peril. The agony of defeat. There's a new
Speaker 2: one called scheme mountaineering, which I don't know. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: lean on the I'll check it out. I will check it.
Speaker 2: I'll try it anyon once food drink in this case
Speaker 2: Olympics new event where they ski and mountain climb. Like
Speaker 2: what so the biathlon is skiing and shooting. This is
Speaker 2: skiing and then climbing the mountain your skiing, which skiing
Speaker 2: generally means you're going downhill. I don't know where the
Speaker 2: up part comes into it? Is that more like cross country?
Speaker 2: I just I don't think could you get any more
Speaker 2: events in Neil Winter Olympics involving skis?
Speaker 1: That's the That's the other thing I lose is always
Speaker 1: going to miss this guy going down on a bobs flood.
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, we've all done that. That is the
Speaker 2: most approachable sport I think in the Olympics. To me
Speaker 2: is I get on a flying saucer. I'm Clark Griswold.
Speaker 2: I get on this thing, I go down an ice
Speaker 2: tube and if you were to you go There's how
Speaker 2: much danger is there? Really? You don't see a lot
Speaker 2: of wipeouts and crashes with the luge because the way
Speaker 2: it's DESI it seems like it's it's almost like bowling
Speaker 2: with the bumpers up. Kind of takes a little challenge away,
Speaker 2: But you know me, you're going pretty damn fast on
Speaker 2: that thing. Looks just looks it's something you'd want to try, right,
Speaker 2: Like everyone, I could do that. What do you do?
Speaker 2: You lie there and it just goes like Pinewood Derby.
Speaker 2: You just put on the traps. You're gone very approachable sport. Hey,
Speaker 2: we'll talk to Austin about that. I got Olympics, he
Speaker 2: got Red's got a little Bengals news. It's all on
Speaker 2: the way here on the Scott Salan Show Friday morning,
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW Slody here on SEVENW I Heart Media
Speaker 2: and seven hundra WW Salukee Cincinnati's own Procter and Gamble.
Speaker 2: We'd like to recognize Alexandra Grout at P and G.
Speaker 2: She is doing, in the words of my good friend
Speaker 2: Tracy Jones, you're doing a great job, a great job
Speaker 2: over there, Alexandra Grout. I like grout, Austin, do you
Speaker 2: like grout? I do? Grout is nice. You're doing all
Speaker 2: You're doing a great job.
Speaker 1: Can I give a shout out. Yeah, Now, this person's
Speaker 1: name isn't on the list, but he's a he's a
Speaker 1: huge deal over there at P ANDG deal. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Gregory Elmore, my guy, your guy. Shout out the
Speaker 1: cousin Greg over a P. I was gonna say, brother, No,
Speaker 1: I'm an only child, which explains a lot, don't you think?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yep, yep, well we're good. Stop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll never forgive them.
Speaker 2: What did we do? Austin's here, he's sharming me. SPN
Speaker 2: fifty third is a show with Tony Pike at noon.
Speaker 2: Over there, they talk all sports usually.
Speaker 1: Usually, but I actually do want to bring up a
Speaker 1: topic today that I just saw. Have you seen there's
Speaker 1: a bar in New York at Hell's Kitchen for AI
Speaker 1: girlfriends and boyfriends. So if you are someone who is
Speaker 1: dating an AI girlfriend or boyfriend, yeah, this bar is
Speaker 1: for you. I don't know the details yet, but they
Speaker 1: can bring your you basically bring your phone along for
Speaker 1: a romantic evening just in time for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2: God helpless, I might have to talk about.
Speaker 1: But there's some lady, because I my current trajectory and
Speaker 1: path in life would suggest that this is a.
Speaker 2: Place for me, robot romances.
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna end up dating an AI something off
Speaker 1: of my phone, right if the current trajectory continues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because the technology is amazing in the fake
Speaker 2: human being sector right now, between A right, you got AI.
Speaker 1: You've got those prosthetic sex partners of the sex dolls, right,
Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about those things. You put those
Speaker 1: two together. Yeah, it's over, leave the house. Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: you want to talk about sports, Yeah, let's let's can
Speaker 1: we keep it out of the gutter?
Speaker 5: Yeah? All right.
Speaker 2: The Olympic village has officially exhausted in just seventy two
Speaker 2: hours their entire supply of condoms. Knew you were gonna
Speaker 2: do that. I knew you were gonna go there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like we hear this every single time
Speaker 1: the Olympics come around, right, but they're just the condoms
Speaker 1: just fly off the shelves over there, they really do.
Speaker 2: And you know, I can't help.
Speaker 1: But think of that one Norwegian fellow who admitted the
Speaker 1: cheating on his girlfriend when he won the medal, and
Speaker 1: you know the backlash since then. Has that maybe led
Speaker 1: to more young ladies being in his dms? Or maybe
Speaker 1: some other fellow Olympians that have sought him out, and
Speaker 1: maybe he's using some of that the gold medal get
Speaker 1: you get get you know, it means money, right, like
Speaker 1: you get a decent chunk of money late anyway, it's
Speaker 1: just like, do you get more piece of the metal.
Speaker 1: Probably get this man, right. I think there are some
Speaker 1: people out there that want to check it off their list.
Speaker 1: Slept with a gold medalist. Yeah, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: above that, right yeah, and then your first pick would
Speaker 1: be the curlers swan get yours anyway. Yeah, so seventy
Speaker 1: I don't have a thing in the bug in the corner,
Speaker 1: you know the time, you know when they do the
Speaker 1: splits at the time, he's uh huh do that with
Speaker 1: the condoms?
Speaker 2: Sure, like this is ahead of these Olympics. I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: wait seven too, it's seventy eight condoms ahead of a record.
Speaker 1: It's almost like like that bar in Omaha for the
Speaker 1: College World Series where they track the fans that drink
Speaker 1: the most shot, right right right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Same thing, same same technology, same technology. All right, Now
Speaker 2: that we have no listeners left, let's I do want
Speaker 2: to talk a little Olympics in just a second or two,
Speaker 2: because tonight. There's only one undefeated team in all of
Speaker 2: college basketballs correct, and that would be the Miami RedHawks
Speaker 2: tonight against Tom Brenneman's Ohio University Bobcats. The Ohio the
Speaker 2: aaii A Ohio University Bobcats tonight at Mallett.
Speaker 1: Big game, national television game on ESPN. That's a big
Speaker 1: deal for Miami, and I'm fascinated to see how as
Speaker 1: they go along and the pressure continues to mount, how
Speaker 1: do they respond Because they've had some close calls, They've
Speaker 1: had some games that you could argue they probably shouldn't
Speaker 1: have won, but they found a way to win them.
Speaker 2: And just at team because I agree very hard.
Speaker 1: I agree, and going up against a team like Ohio,
Speaker 1: that's a rivalry. That's the battle of the bricks right there.
Speaker 1: And sometimes when the pressure is mounting, and when the
Speaker 1: lights are on and you're on national TV, you start thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're tighten up a little bit there, and I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see how it goes. But Travis Steel and his team,
Speaker 1: I mean, they are one of the best offensive teams
Speaker 1: in the country, and when they're able to marry that
Speaker 1: with some consistent defense, it hasn't always been good, but
Speaker 1: some consistent defense.
Speaker 2: They're fun to.
Speaker 1: Watch man and with the Bobcats love to knock off
Speaker 1: Miami and be the team they lose the finals of
Speaker 1: this season. Yeah, as Tom Braden would say, ut.
Speaker 2: Red spring training schedule, we are underway in goodyear. February
Speaker 2: twenty first, So what is that? Today is the thirteenth,
Speaker 2: So how many times have you looked at the Reds
Speaker 2: spring training schedule? But a week from today it's real
Speaker 2: they start playing games. It's not real. Yeah, they're really
Speaker 2: playing those those are fake games. Yeah, but they're really
Speaker 2: playing another team.
Speaker 1: Yes, So well you'll hear the jingle their ads are
Speaker 1: on and that's I guess that's rights.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of gone fast that all
Speaker 1: of a sudden we've we've you know, the new year
Speaker 1: happens in boom. We're right about to start having spring
Speaker 1: training baseball games. And what's interesting about the team to
Speaker 1: me is that they're not interesting. They're kind of boring.
Speaker 1: The most interesting parts of this spring training are who's
Speaker 1: gonna hit second in the lineup and who's the backup
Speaker 1: second basement. Pretty Much every spot is accounted for. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna see how refreshing is that. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: and and I think Terry Frank Coon was talking about
Speaker 1: this on the Hot Stove earlier this week, where it's
Speaker 1: like sometimes you go into camp with a lot of
Speaker 1: questions and you find out you don't have the answers. Well,
Speaker 1: now you're going into camp with a lot of answers
Speaker 1: and you find out what questions need to be asked.
Speaker 1: And that's a good spot for this team to be in.
Speaker 1: I think, especially after the run that they went on
Speaker 1: last year, they've slightly improved offensively.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of ifs. There's a lot of if.
Speaker 1: This has happens, then this will be good all over
Speaker 1: that roster, guys like Spencer Steeer, guys like Matt McClain
Speaker 1: most notably. But when most of the spots are taken
Speaker 1: up and you know who's going to be where just
Speaker 1: about every day and you've been there and been to
Speaker 1: the playoffs with that group, I think that gives him
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's you know, the questions will pop up.
Speaker 2: Ces is a question now he is injured. Injury set
Speaker 2: back for him. Now, grant you only had two O
Speaker 2: six last year, there's only one trajectory for him hopefully,
Speaker 2: and that is up. Yeah, And Terry said, ah, you know,
Speaker 2: he's kind of running through it and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: But I've heard this before and say it's gonna happen
Speaker 2: with him, but it's like, next thing, you know, it's
Speaker 2: he's going to miss Opening Day.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think he's going to make this team,
Speaker 1: so I don't know that it's that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: But he's one of those guys where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if he has a nice spring, he could be that
Speaker 1: dude at the end of the benches, the backup infield, right,
Speaker 1: And I was kind of hoping to see that because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Reds fans would say that
Speaker 1: that Cees is a likable guy, a guy that you
Speaker 1: want to see succeed. But it just feels like that
Speaker 1: something's always happened once he gets to the big leagues
Speaker 1: and he can't overcome it. I remember last year he
Speaker 1: finally got to the big leagues, had that awesome walk
Speaker 1: off home run and we're thinking, okay, ces is back
Speaker 1: and he was back in the minor leagues a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks later, and he wasn't even with the Big
Speaker 1: League Club on Christian and Carnassio and Strand Bobblehead Night
Speaker 1: later that season. Right, So yeah, he's one of those guys.
Speaker 1: It does seem like he's only gonna miss a couple
Speaker 1: of games, a couple of the spring games. Say he's
Speaker 1: on a running program. So hopefully it's not something that last.
Speaker 1: Good good, all right.
Speaker 2: The big news out today sports wise, speaking of the Reds,
Speaker 2: Phil Castellini taking helm over from his dad Bob in
Speaker 2: Red's Country and resignation. We look at this, go, okay,
Speaker 2: when Phil Casteli we know the track. Should we care?
Speaker 2: Is this? Does it matter?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: I do think Reds fans should care because Phil Castellini
Speaker 1: has greatly and repeatedly offended Reds fans over the years.
Speaker 1: He's made you feel like crap, He's made you feel
Speaker 1: like you don't matter. And now officially he's the guy
Speaker 1: that's in charge. Now, I'm willing to give Phil Castellini
Speaker 1: a chance. And you could say that since he's been
Speaker 1: in charge, which really was at the end of last year,
Speaker 1: they did make a run at Kyle Schwarber. Whether it
Speaker 1: was a serious run or not, they did, and they
Speaker 1: did spend more than their allotted budget to go and
Speaker 1: get Auohenio Surez. So I'm hoping that that is a
Speaker 1: sign of things to come in the Phil Castellini regime.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of Reds fans would be
Speaker 1: justified in saying I have my doubts about that actually
Speaker 1: being the case.
Speaker 2: And here's the guy who just got booed not long
Speaker 2: ago e Xavier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not liked and there are plenty of reasons
Speaker 1: not to like him. Now, I'm not surprised by this.
Speaker 1: Nobody should be surprised by this. Who knows what it's
Speaker 1: going to look like, especially next year when there probably
Speaker 1: won't be any baseball. But I'm willing to at least
Speaker 1: give Phil a chance now that he's the guy who's
Speaker 1: in charge.
Speaker 2: And I think that's fair. I wish I hope more
Speaker 2: of Reds fans do that, because can he turn that page?
Speaker 2: And because all you need to do is win, I
Speaker 2: mean go to the playoffs, but advance. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: fixes everything.
Speaker 1: Right, Like you know, it's that I always talk about this,
Speaker 1: that famous quote from Paul Brown that says winning makes
Speaker 1: believers of us all. Phil Castellini can change his image,
Speaker 1: can be a hero in this town if he commits
Speaker 1: to building a winning team and not a money making team,
Speaker 1: and that's up to him to decide. And I personally
Speaker 1: don't know if that's something that he cares about. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if that's something that he really worries about.
Speaker 2: Are you say that there's this team in Cincinnati cares
Speaker 2: more about money than winning.
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a team in the world
Speaker 1: who cares more about money than winning, or who cares
Speaker 1: more about winning than money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so well here it's maybe a little more more.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Trey Hendrickson franchise Tager Now, no, thank you,
Speaker 2: move on hard pass, Yeah, move on a thousand with that.
Speaker 2: It's just there's no need for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe they think there's only been seven players in the
Speaker 1: last ten years or so, or maybe in the last
Speaker 1: fifteen that have actually been traded once they've been tagged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not going to be easy. It's younger,
Speaker 2: and let's face it, it's yeah good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would then have to negotiate with the other team,
Speaker 1: with the agent with a come up with something that
Speaker 1: makes sense.
Speaker 2: I just don't know if that's seven games too. It's
Speaker 2: like it's tough to it's just just move on.
Speaker 6: FC.
Speaker 2: By the way, it's that time of year ready, It's
Speaker 2: like NASCAR Fokker, isn't that. It's like there's hardly any
Speaker 2: offseason they ended that, they've ended their preseason now and
Speaker 2: they're in that kunka concat. It just rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 2: Uh as they get ready to play and they've got
Speaker 2: some new pieces in there and they're still trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see what it looks like because
Speaker 1: it feels like it's been kind of a quiet off
Speaker 1: season for f C Cincinnati and maybe not as much
Speaker 1: done as they expected. But the the part about their
Speaker 1: season that's so so interesting in their schedule and their
Speaker 1: calendar is that there's a lot of time between now
Speaker 1: and the stretch run to really build up, figure out
Speaker 1: what you have, and then I think what they've been
Speaker 1: really good at the last couple of years is finding
Speaker 1: that piece, maybe not at the start of the season,
Speaker 1: but early on or at the midway point that can
Speaker 1: come in and give them that jolt going into the
Speaker 1: stretch run. Now the calendar's changing a little bit, we're
Speaker 1: gonna learn about that a little bit more today with
Speaker 1: Tom Glaider on our show and figure out exactly what
Speaker 1: that means and what the difference will be. But they've
Speaker 1: shown an ability in the past to figure out what
Speaker 1: they have and plug in the right piece to get
Speaker 1: them to the postseason. Okay, good, So FC is starting
Speaker 1: to get fired up as well.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: No one embraces the sports culture and certainly the sports
Speaker 2: haberdasherie than one Austin Elmore a haberdashery. He is always
Speaker 2: the word I've never heard, always dripped up wearing Bengals
Speaker 2: reds Ohio State Michigan. He wears pretty much just wearing
Speaker 2: a hat usually. But you got you got a Jordan's
Speaker 2: a sweatshirt on right, a Cruise shirt, you got the
Speaker 2: Bengals flack m on. You look good. Thanks, You're always
Speaker 2: well dressed. Okay, thank you. So no one leans more
Speaker 2: into gear than you do, I would say Sarah at
Speaker 2: least does. She's a front runner though with it well,
Speaker 2: I mean no doubt. I mean now, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden she's a Miami fan. Yeah, I mean gratituate. It's
Speaker 2: like I thought she went all these years. I thought
Speaker 2: you went to UC Yeah, no kidding. So he's up.
Speaker 2: You see suck Now she's on the Miami bandwagon.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: Nonetheless, what do you make of the FC Seven Hills kit?
Speaker 2: I was about to ask you, can you name the
Speaker 2: seven Hills of Cincinnati? Sure? Okay, go now, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Well, according to Google, who knows this is a I
Speaker 1: so Mount Adams. There's Mount Adams, You got Mount Auburn,
Speaker 1: you go, Anut Hills, Dopey, Vine Street Hill, College Hill,
Speaker 1: fair Mount, and Mount Harrison which is now Price Hill.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, anyways, where's Mount Harrison? They're sick.
Speaker 1: I think they're my favorite uniform that c Cincinnati's ever made, right,
Speaker 1: and that includes the ones that they made for us
Speaker 1: and brought to us last year. I mean, white with
Speaker 1: the orange stripes, just a beautiful look. Kits every year.
Speaker 2: Across in my less phone, and they're the kind of
Speaker 2: what do you call the zigzag stripes only their vertical
Speaker 2: for the seven Hills and their seven peaks. It's really neat. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that sort of creativity. A couple of years
Speaker 1: ago they did the orange one and it was kind
Speaker 1: of based off of the river, which I thought was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I love that their their ability to just kind
Speaker 1: of incorporate the city and the different elements of the
Speaker 1: city into each other.
Speaker 2: I want to see like next to the because every
Speaker 2: year they do new kid, the one that has like
Speaker 2: a tribute to chili where it's just like they have
Speaker 2: sauce just all over the uniform, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: in the front of it, like I ay chili.
Speaker 1: You know, the Reds are supposed to update their City
Speaker 1: Connect uniform soon. And you know we've seen teams like
Speaker 1: Milwaukee they had a grill on theirs because they asked
Speaker 1: them for tailgate and fast feats and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: I do wonder if there will be, yeah, some sort
Speaker 1: of a chili aspect, the Chili Connect Jersey, the Chili Connect.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, you could make a lot of mone you
Speaker 1: really really could, or if they did. Now, last year
Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox did a Chicago Bulls style uniform.
Speaker 2: Could the Reds make a little dough on some origin
Speaker 2: black all right? Perhaps?
Speaker 6: Like it?
Speaker 2: All right, we'll find out partner would make you buy
Speaker 2: the stuff anyway, all right? Quickly? Then Olympics was teased
Speaker 2: here where we're not talking about condoms, are actually talking
Speaker 2: about play as you know, I am sick, sick sick
Speaker 2: for the puck last night watching the US women's by
Speaker 2: the way, which I normally don't watch with hockey. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what. They're fun to watch because they're fast.
Speaker 2: You think there's twenty of them out there. It's awesome.
Speaker 2: They beat Canada five nothing. I saw it on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: I watched yesterday the US men's team. Kind of a
Speaker 2: slow start here. They won five two of Latvia two
Speaker 2: just allowed goes to the US men's team. But I'll
Speaker 2: tell you what you want to talk about, like a
Speaker 2: dream situation, because if you played hockey, generally played like
Speaker 2: on the street or in your backyard or pond or
Speaker 2: something like that somewhere, and you played with your friends
Speaker 2: and your brothers and stuff like that. In this game yesterday,
Speaker 2: Brady could Chuck scored a goal and the pass his
Speaker 2: assistant was from his brother Matthew. It's really cool. It
Speaker 2: was so cool and those guys.
Speaker 1: I remember it was at last fall when they the
Speaker 1: four an Asians face off, and to see them playing together,
Speaker 1: and now they've taken the Olympic break for this, it's
Speaker 1: just really cool.
Speaker 2: It's fun to see.
Speaker 1: It was a bad day yesterday to be a Latvian
Speaker 1: and the Columbus crew goalkeeper who got roughed up Elvis
Speaker 1: guy named Elvis and had to take him out.
Speaker 2: They said, Elvis is the building.
Speaker 1: They had like two thousand shots on this poor guy
Speaker 1: was fun but I get it. Yeah, all this is out.
Speaker 1: He was he was struggling, was just getting we'll see later.
Speaker 1: Elf elve Elf, the Elf Columbus goalie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: The hottest team in the NHL prior to the break.
Speaker 1: So they probably won't win a game for three months.
Speaker 1: It could be because he's gonna be nursing a sore growing.
Speaker 1: That's what happened to those I've never seen a goalie
Speaker 1: taking knee. I mean he was getting he was just
Speaker 1: getting peppered, just peppered. And Rich Rahonan I think I'm
Speaker 1: saying the name right. The oldest Winter Olympian. They lost,
Speaker 1: the Americans lost of Switzerland. But a curler fifty four
Speaker 1: years old, the.
Speaker 2: Oldest Olympians fifty medal. I don't think he's a medal event.
Speaker 2: He took part in the Americans eight three loss of Switzerland. Loser. Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: That's the best old guys out there. Yeah, that's all right,
Speaker 1: that's kind of cool. How excited that you don't have
Speaker 1: to worry, don't have to worry about the condoms looking
Speaker 1: at mine? How excited are you for the NBA All
Speaker 1: Star Weekend coming up this week? I am not excited
Speaker 1: at all. Me neither used to be the best weekend
Speaker 1: of my childhood. I might have to get more in
Speaker 1: the NBA. I really want to.
Speaker 2: I just like I have time to watch.
Speaker 1: I watch them like it's fun. I just never have
Speaker 1: a hot take. Lebron James legacy is that he killed
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend. I won't participate in the dunk contest.
Speaker 2: Real quick. Olympic I wanted to ask you this, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: least and most interesting sport Winter Olympics go least interesting
Speaker 2: I think is the loge really yeah? I think that's
Speaker 2: kind of boring.
Speaker 1: And then most interesting to me personally probably the curly,
Speaker 1: just because it feels, I'm that really intense. Everyone seems
Speaker 1: to be dialed into the curly.
Speaker 2: That should be a question. What's guilty pleasure? Curling? Downhill
Speaker 2: skating is fun though, that's like that is risky. I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not a big figure skating. I want to
Speaker 2: see the quad. God though, that that looks really cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: apparently tonight big night for him. That's pretty good. Obviously,
Speaker 2: hockey's number one for me.
Speaker 1: But I used to really like speed skating back with
Speaker 1: your buddy Apolo Antonoo. Yeah, I mean those those skates
Speaker 1: that they wear. Yeah, you know what, I would change
Speaker 1: my answer. That's the most interesting, all right. That's I
Speaker 1: was watching the five thousand meter yesterday. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that takes some serious it really does. It does skeleton,
Speaker 1: which is a belly down sled. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: I watch it and go I watch it because it's
Speaker 1: like WestEd do it in the back.
Speaker 2: Are you know? Yeah? Yeah, just become a mystique. Rowe
Speaker 2: by the way, US athlete. She hates roller coasters and
Speaker 2: is allergic to ice, she says, and she is our
Speaker 2: representing us on the sky. How did you get to
Speaker 2: where you are? I don't know. It's a great thing.
Speaker 2: I just want to watch it to see.
Speaker 1: That's as good of a story as Lindsay Vaughn. She
Speaker 1: overcame the elements.
Speaker 2: I gotta get going Austin Almore today new and I
Speaker 2: EESPN fifty to thirty, Thank you, thank you shot or
Speaker 2: from now Willy is here and I'm sure either he
Speaker 2: or I don't know if it's Dan Carroll or Canbers. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they'll be complaining about why why the bath the Olympics
Speaker 2: is alonging biathletes and the biathlon, speaking of fifty four
Speaker 2: year old Olympians, got to explain to him to the
Speaker 2: biathlon is not what he thinks it is.
Speaker 9: Seven hundred WW. Cincinnati got flown back on seven hundred WW.
Speaker 9: So what is a Christian? Hey, what what's a Christian?
Speaker 9: Most people answer, well, someone who believes in Christ. Dummy, Yeah,
Speaker 9: but that's not really the whole answer. It's simply not
Speaker 9: just self identification.
Speaker 2: It's really if you are a Christian, the definition would
Speaker 2: be someone who has a complete commitment to Christ. And
Speaker 2: that's where we have a bite a problem. The cafeteria
Speaker 2: Catholic comes to mind, the cultural Christian. Of course, all
Speaker 2: this then impacts what things like our election one of
Speaker 2: the reasons Trump got won and he did really, really
Speaker 2: really well, so much better than Democrats traditionally do, but
Speaker 2: especially in this cycle with Christian conservatives, those on the
Speaker 2: far right, and and there's a problem of the cultural Christian,
Speaker 2: and that is someone well we'll get the definition of
Speaker 2: what that is. Maybe you are that person. John Horvett
Speaker 2: is a religious scholar, researcher, educator and this joins the
Speaker 2: show now to talk about it on seven hundred W
Speaker 2: Dowty John, good morning, how are you.
Speaker 4: Good morning, Great to be on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So define that. What is a cultural Christian is
Speaker 2: that like a cafeteria Catholic is what we call them
Speaker 2: here in heavily Catholic Cincinnati. Someone who shows up for
Speaker 2: Easter and Christmas Mass, the Creasers and then you know
Speaker 2: pretty much does their own things. Has you know, white
Speaker 2: spouses on birth control, you know all the things that
Speaker 2: you told you are not supposed to do. That's cafe
Speaker 2: deia Catholic. It's the same thing.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's it's even much less much much less.
Speaker 4: You don't have to really do anything. You don't have
Speaker 4: to go to church, you don't have to believe in God,
Speaker 4: you don't have to believe in it anything. All you
Speaker 4: have to do is identify, I recognize the value of
Speaker 4: some Christian cultural thing. It's something that's nice that you enjoy,
Speaker 4: but has nothing actually to do with accepting Christ or
Speaker 4: having faith in Christ or anything having to do with Christianity.
Speaker 4: As it's it turns religion into a culture identity marker.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just how identify myself, and you know,
Speaker 4: it has it's a lot of the trapping, but when
Speaker 4: you try to dig deep inside, there's really nothing there.
Speaker 2: Well, And the reason I bring this up is because
Speaker 2: I think that was reflected in this election. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of people that seem to be what you're defining
Speaker 2: as a cultural Christian here that is like I look
Speaker 2: at it and go, yeah, that's really not what Christ
Speaker 2: taught or what the belief of Christian is. But I
Speaker 2: damn it, I'm I'm a Christian and I'm going to
Speaker 2: vote for well in this case, to President Trump, I
Speaker 2: think he did really really well with a cultural conservatives
Speaker 2: or cultural Christians you're.
Speaker 4: Talking about, yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely you have some
Speaker 4: overlaps there, but I mean we're talking like people like
Speaker 4: Ellen Loss, Ellen Moss, Ellen Mosk. He is a self
Speaker 4: identified Christian book cultural Christian, whereby he doesn't have anything there.
Speaker 4: I mean, his life doesn't follow a moral code. It's
Speaker 4: just a very it's a very feel good thing. It
Speaker 4: certainly you know, it plays well on media, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't really have that that that's that uh that that
Speaker 4: depth that makes Christianity so powerful. It's just a stripped
Speaker 4: down version.
Speaker 2: Well, I have a problem with Christians that are dictating
Speaker 2: what our policies are. These these folks have absolutely no
Speaker 2: idea what Christian and mere being Christian means. And it's
Speaker 2: a for those who are true Christians. It's a commitment
Speaker 2: and it's you know you are You're only answering to
Speaker 2: your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. There's no one else
Speaker 2: there do you answer to. Now, you obviously, like anyone else,
Speaker 2: have certain things that you would favor, to be sure,
Speaker 2: but most people aren't making that commitment that you're talking.
Speaker 4: About, right exactly. I mean you have people like Joe
Speaker 4: Rogan who says I like Jesus and now he becomes
Speaker 4: a critic cultural Christian. You have people like Vive Karamasami
Speaker 4: who says God is real and he's not even he's
Speaker 4: a Hindu. I mean, it's just it's just crazy. How
Speaker 4: you know the media picks up on something, you make
Speaker 4: a comment or statement, and you've become a cultural Christian. Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, our face is much worth, much much more
Speaker 4: than that and much more powerful when we believe in
Speaker 4: something and we we we practice Gods law. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just a very important distinction. And these people are
Speaker 4: getting a lot of you know, getting a lot of press,
Speaker 4: they're getting a lot of uh, you know, credit for
Speaker 4: something that they really don't have.
Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the problem. There is no universal agreement
Speaker 2: on who has the authority to define a Christian. There's
Speaker 2: no true Christian identity. It's a It's certainly been an
Speaker 2: ongoing theological and philosophical debate longer than we've been here,
Speaker 2: longer than when we leave it this earth. That there
Speaker 2: are different Christian traditions that have different answer that question,
Speaker 2: and even within those sects there can be debate about
Speaker 2: what constitutes authentic Christian identity. So if you can't have
Speaker 2: a source, as it were, on what truly makes up
Speaker 2: a Christian, who are you to say, John Horrovett, Well, I.
Speaker 4: Mean that is that is the point. It's not a Christian.
Speaker 4: We're not debating whether a person is Christian or not.
Speaker 4: It's just cultural Christians. They want to put Christianity into
Speaker 4: a box and say it it's just part of culture.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter what you know, what you really are.
Speaker 4: Just keep it cultural and don't make it religious. And
Speaker 4: we'll be it will be all right with that. And
Speaker 4: I think that's where the big problem is. Just a
Speaker 4: vague sympathy for Christianity makes you Christian. It doesn't, obviously doesn't.
Speaker 4: And these people would probably be the first to say
Speaker 4: we're not Christian. But there's for example, Christopher Dawkins, excuse me,
Speaker 4: Richard Dawkins. He said he's an atheist, but he identifies
Speaker 4: as a cultural Christian because he says, you know, the
Speaker 4: culture has some nice things in it that you know
Speaker 4: has done, has done some good. Obviously, he doesn't want
Speaker 4: to be a Christian. He's just a cultural Christian. And
Speaker 4: and that causes a lot of confusion. And you know,
Speaker 4: that's that's where I think the danger is.
Speaker 2: Who doesn't like I mean, Baby Jesus Land and the Manger.
Speaker 2: You've got, the frankincense, You've got the Mystery of the Chair,
Speaker 2: You've got you know, who doesn't like Christmas? Or crying
Speaker 2: out loud. I a friend, good friend of mine who's
Speaker 2: Jewish his whole life. He's put up a Christmas tree
Speaker 2: because he likes Christmas trees.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to be the first to say he's
Speaker 4: not a Christian. In these particular. You know figures are
Speaker 4: you know, they're they're living on the they display the trappings,
Speaker 4: but they don't walk the walk.
Speaker 2: Is that so what's the damage?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: Does that offend you? Because you're you're putting the I mean,
Speaker 2: you're putting the work in. You're going damn it. These
Speaker 2: people are getting credit for I'm working really hard to
Speaker 2: be a Christian here and these folks say there, but
Speaker 2: they're really not. Is that like more offensive to you
Speaker 2: than what's the damage?
Speaker 5: Lowers?
Speaker 4: It lowers the bar and makes it makes you know,
Speaker 4: Christianity something that makes it makes it a cultural thing,
Speaker 4: which for me is not a cultural thing. And I
Speaker 4: don't want to be put in that box. I think
Speaker 4: it it takes away from our the power of our message.
Speaker 4: I just think calling it something cultural and giving the
Speaker 4: idea it is something cultural.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, Jim, I'll push back a
Speaker 2: little on Meko. Like John Mellencamp said, ain't that America.
Speaker 2: We take everything in debase it in our culture. We
Speaker 2: take food, we take we we misappropriate things, and we
Speaker 2: twist it to our liking. Because we're Americans. We're the
Speaker 2: great melting pot and we unlike many countries have that
Speaker 2: going for still, where people from different nations come in,
Speaker 2: they assimilate, and we take their cultural gifts and we change.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm Italian, and you know the idea putting
Speaker 2: a ravioli in a can is offensive to a lot
Speaker 2: of Italians. But you know, God bless chef boy or
Speaker 2: d from Cleveland, Ohio who made a fortune in a
Speaker 2: household name overtaking Raviolian sticking a can Now it's sending
Speaker 2: close to real ravioli. But you can take that and
Speaker 2: do that with any culture and any religion and you
Speaker 2: have the same thing. And that is what America does.
Speaker 2: We take something and we homogenize it.
Speaker 4: Definitely, you have that aspect that doesn't it doesn't detract
Speaker 4: from the fact that those those those real things do
Speaker 4: exist and are very important in life people and very
Speaker 4: important the lives of a culture to to you know,
Speaker 4: to proclaim a Christianity and to disregard the moral codes
Speaker 4: that go along with it. You know, it's a based
Speaker 4: It does debate that, and Christians have a right to
Speaker 4: fight back and say, no, that's not what I stand for.
Speaker 4: You're you're completely misrepresented it. I mean, that's also very American,
Speaker 4: is too right to get to get into these debates.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about people who would never otherwise engage,
Speaker 2: but say, yeah, I just kind of identify with it.
Speaker 2: I also have a problem and this is going to
Speaker 2: piss a lot of people off, and I love it.
Speaker 2: It seems like the people who scream the loudest and
Speaker 2: show the rest of the world they are one hundred
Speaker 2: percent about Christ almost always aren't. Uh, And I'm talking
Speaker 2: about fake Christians? Is that you know, the well the
Speaker 2: cross and all the shirt, listen to the music even
Speaker 2: though it's not that good. I'm not talking about like
Speaker 2: you know, pop and Christian rock for example, and just
Speaker 2: because that's our culture because they but you know, behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, they're probably not as Christian as they would
Speaker 2: profess and project. Is that a problem as well? Is
Speaker 2: that the same thing?
Speaker 4: Well, definitely not, because at least these people profess that
Speaker 4: faith and are trying. You know, these are people who
Speaker 4: have you know, who really have nothing to do with
Speaker 4: the faith and are passed off as the faith. You know,
Speaker 4: gets people like Jordan Peterson, who is a complete atheist,
Speaker 4: you know, he's a cultural Christian, or you know Richard
Speaker 4: Dawkins or or you know, just these these these figures,
Speaker 4: these pop figures that are are just turning, you know,
Speaker 4: religion into a cultural identity identity marker and then and
Speaker 4: taking away from the actual powerful message that it's actually
Speaker 4: actually there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I guess maybe because I've known a
Speaker 2: few people like what I was talking about there, and
Speaker 2: I've I've seen it firsthand. You know, go to a restaurant.
Speaker 1: Instead of leaving the tip, they leave a you know,
Speaker 1: some message about Jesus on this.
Speaker 2: Well, you had at a restaurant, you're expected to tip for
Speaker 2: the service here.
Speaker 1: That's telling somebody about Jesus.
Speaker 2: Isn't exactly currency, right it. Those are the people I
Speaker 2: have a problem with, quite honestly, because then you hear
Speaker 2: stories where they're, oh, yeah, well they also happen to
Speaker 2: be embezzling money from the church or they're taking money
Speaker 2: from this because they think they're entitled to it because
Speaker 2: they are so Christian. And I guess that's two sides
Speaker 2: of the same coin. Jim Horvat is here, our John
Speaker 2: Horvat rather is here as religious scholar, researcher, educator, return
Speaker 2: to orders the book. We're talking about the emergence of
Speaker 2: the cultural Christian and that is someone who says, yeah,
Speaker 2: I kind of like Christianity, but is really not a
Speaker 2: Christian and what impacts And we've seen that in election certainly,
Speaker 2: and the impact of the cultural Christian and kind of
Speaker 2: debasing that one of the things that make up the
Speaker 2: core belief is a Christian here in America anyway, I
Speaker 2: don't know about other countries, but for a number of
Speaker 2: years and right now it's been this way for a while.
Speaker 2: Abortion seems to be the one issue for Christians. And
Speaker 2: there's a lot of issues I can think of too
Speaker 2: that are big and important. But why did we get
Speaker 2: to the point where abortion equals Christianity or I guess
Speaker 2: anti abortion equals Christianity.
Speaker 4: It's a litmus point because obviously it is part of
Speaker 4: the moral code. I mean, the tech commandments, the fist commandment,
Speaker 4: shad not kill, you know, it's very very clear. And
Speaker 4: the belief in the in the that we are, you know,
Speaker 4: beings made an image and likeness to God, and that
Speaker 4: to destroy a human being in any in any point
Speaker 4: of its development will eventually.
Speaker 5: To two worst things.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a it's a valid point. And
Speaker 4: of course, you know, the cultural Christian would just sideline
Speaker 4: those kinds of things just as well. Those things aren't important,
Speaker 4: you know, the only thing important is that well.
Speaker 2: But I guess my point of that, John too, is
Speaker 2: that if you look back in history, for example, today,
Speaker 2: it's it's very very clear what the Christian doctorate is
Speaker 2: towards abortion, But if you go back to the what
Speaker 2: eighteen hundred and nineteenth century, it would be they're Christian leaders.
Speaker 2: Some opposed abortion, but most said nothing about it. They
Speaker 2: looked at as a private decision. Most Protestants were pretty
Speaker 2: nuanced about it, saying it was a private matter, and
Speaker 2: that went all the way through even the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 2: Christian religious identity and anti abortion activism came out largely
Speaker 2: in the seven and these as a political tool by
Speaker 2: the Republicans. The Southern Baptists. Southern Baptist supported abortions up
Speaker 2: in the end of the nineteen seventies, but near the
Speaker 2: end of the decade, in the eighties and the Reagan Revolution,
Speaker 2: they went absolutely in the other direction.
Speaker 4: I mean, abortion is an hypocritic ghost of the from
Speaker 4: the Greeks. It goes back to the Greeks. You know,
Speaker 4: you do not commit abortion. It's not something just recent
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always been.
Speaker 2: Not according to these not according to the church, as
Speaker 2: I just mentioned. And that's the thing is, you know,
Speaker 2: we're back to who decides what makes a Christian? And
Speaker 2: I would say, certainly a Southern Baptists are Christians, Protestants
Speaker 2: are Christians, Catholics are Christians. But it wasn't until the
Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties that abortion became the issue is today.
Speaker 2: If religion is about tradition, when we go back in
Speaker 2: time to the dawn of time in.
Speaker 4: The sixties, I know what the abortion issue was, OK,
Speaker 4: very hot back then, and it's been been a hot
Speaker 4: issue because but it wasn't a hot issue because most
Speaker 4: people did practice it. It was it was against the law.
Speaker 4: So I mean it is obviously is not an issue
Speaker 4: if something's against the law. It was something very clandestine,
Speaker 4: but it was it was always it was always considered
Speaker 4: against the law. Yeah, but at least from my Catholic tradition,
Speaker 4: I can see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not necessarily talking about Catholics in Generalrey,
Speaker 2: We're talking about Christians as a whole here. And it's
Speaker 2: just interesting the shift that came in the nineteen eighties
Speaker 2: because prior to that they're like, Okay, well it's a
Speaker 2: private thing, and not that the Catholic Catholic Church was
Speaker 2: certainly against that, and great point that it was that
Speaker 2: it was illegal. But you know, there are plenty of
Speaker 2: Catholics and Christians that had backroom abortions. Some of them
Speaker 2: didn't turn out well, but it wasn't n till it
Speaker 2: was politicized, I guess, to the nineteen eighties. It's really
Speaker 2: became such the issue that is today where there's absolutely
Speaker 2: no wavering out whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you can't mean, you can't take the
Speaker 4: life of a human being. And that's that's a big problem.
Speaker 2: John Horbad on the show this morning on seven hundred
Speaker 2: WW the rise of the cultural Christian we're talking about
Speaker 2: here too, and what about the societal impact on that.
Speaker 2: I know you you certainly are a devout Christian, and
Speaker 2: I think maybe this is personal for you, because yeah,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like saying, who is the biggest Bengal fan? Right,
Speaker 2: you couldn't have made that until you're blue in the face.
Speaker 2: There's no way to measure it. I think that's the
Speaker 2: problem and a lot of people, unfortunately, as I mentioned,
Speaker 2: with the fake Christians that I've seen tend to measure
Speaker 2: the more outward, the more you know, crosses that they wear,
Speaker 2: and bumper stickers that they have, and shirts and hats
Speaker 2: that they have that they tend to yell more loudly
Speaker 2: than most chriss I think the most christ Like people
Speaker 2: that I know in my life, and I'm talking about
Speaker 2: people who are there to serve God and no one else,
Speaker 2: they tend to not be as forward with their belief
Speaker 2: as some.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you're obliged to witness to the faith.
Speaker 4: How you how you manifest itself. So I mean it's
Speaker 4: not if you're hiding it. You have to absolutely show
Speaker 4: it and defend the faith when it is attacked in
Speaker 4: the even in the public square. So I mean, it
Speaker 4: is how you do it. It's it depends upon you.
Speaker 4: There are there are people and sinners who do it
Speaker 4: do it in ways it's obviously I would agree with.
Speaker 4: But uh, the the cultural Christian is is someone who
Speaker 4: was who just takes the bacon de lucids and even
Speaker 4: goes contrary to it. I mean, you see a lot
Speaker 4: of you see this in a lot of these very
Speaker 4: what they call hard right movements in Europe. You know,
Speaker 4: the the idea the alternatives for deutsch Land. You know,
Speaker 4: that's one of the big super rightous ones. They're cultural Christians.
Speaker 4: They're they there, they have they have a lot of externals.
Speaker 4: But you look at their philosophies and there's someone to say,
Speaker 4: we're open openly pagans. We go back to our German mythology.
Speaker 4: You look at the National Rally Party of France. You
Speaker 4: know they say that they with marine lapen.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know, they're being castigated as being super you know,
Speaker 4: super Christian. But if you look at their philosophies and
Speaker 4: there and they also are pagan and they also uh
Speaker 4: you know, have very very strange ideas and they will
Speaker 4: defend of positions that in no way are defendable by Christians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you are the silent majority and
Speaker 2: maybe that's majority of assilent minority when it comes to
Speaker 2: the faith, because you're very obviously very strong in that too,
Speaker 2: and you'll profess it. But you know, we're like anything
Speaker 2: is the damage is done because it's become so homogeneous
Speaker 2: that people just latch onto something cool and go, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm part of that group. I'm like, it's like being
Speaker 2: a swiftye almost John Horvite, appreciate the time. Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for joining the show this morning.
Speaker 4: Really interesting, all right, great being on the show.
Speaker 2: Thanks again for coming back on. As we get closer
Speaker 2: to the high holy season here with lent fast approaching,
Speaker 2: I'm about to time out. News on the way in
Speaker 2: just minutes, and of course we get the weekend rolling
Speaker 2: with Ali Martin Local Loop. What to eat, drink, see
Speaker 2: and do this weekend in Cincinnati with the weather warming up,
Speaker 2: Gonna be nice for Valentine's Day tomorrow for sure. Scott
Speaker 2: Sloan Show, seven hundred WLW. The weekends coming on and
Speaker 2: you need to make the most of that. Where to
Speaker 2: go and what to do?
Speaker 3: She has that two percent insight to help you make
Speaker 3: it us super weekend, So listen up.
Speaker 5: This is the Local Loop with Allie Martin on seven
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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Good morning, Thank you my new
Speaker 2: favorite person in the world.
Speaker 8: You are looking just so damn for this morning.
Speaker 2: And I know Allie last week she brought me this
Speaker 2: sweatshirt that.
Speaker 7: Says Buffalo Bengals and it's like a mash up of
Speaker 7: the logos blended in Yeah, and it's a great sweatshirtshirt
Speaker 7: and it looks so good.
Speaker 2: It fits good.
Speaker 8: Right, We went back and forth like are you a
Speaker 8: larger large?
Speaker 2: And we made it and excel top and but it's
Speaker 2: like it fit great.
Speaker 7: And it's long, but it's narrow. It doesn't make you
Speaker 7: look like a potato?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: Where did you get it again?
Speaker 7: Actually, my friend, so it was a mutual friend, bought
Speaker 7: it for another friend and I'm like, I know them.
Speaker 7: Another person who needs this sweatshirt.
Speaker 2: There's two Buffalo bills. I'm sorry, Buffalo Bengals sweatshirts in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and I have one of them.
Speaker 8: So I think I think a lot of people would
Speaker 8: love it.
Speaker 2: All right, well, put it up on your you should
Speaker 2: sign her social at Allie martin Ate. And of course
Speaker 2: YouTube is a good drama to the whole episode on sweatshirts.
Speaker 2: What's going on Local Loop this morning? So what's it?
Speaker 2: Finally this time next week is gonna be seventy, which
Speaker 2: is so Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: I mean, heck, today's Friday, the thirteenth Valentine's Days, this weekend,
Speaker 7: this whole celebration's Marty Grass coming up. You missed a
Speaker 7: fantastic Gallantine's paint and sip with tiff.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so sorry I missed that.
Speaker 8: Actually it was a really good time. Did I paint much?
Speaker 8: Of course not. But I was there for the espresso
Speaker 8: martini and vibes Gallantine?
Speaker 2: How many? How many people showed up to this? How many?
Speaker 8: It was a packed house? I mean yeah, yeah, she
Speaker 8: pretty much sold out, which was great.
Speaker 7: A got a cute little spot called Frankie So if
Speaker 7: you're looking for something a new place to check out,
Speaker 7: Frankie's off Court Street is a good little spot. They
Speaker 7: have killer aspresso Martini's. So we went from the sound
Speaker 7: bath to the paint and sip, which then we can't
Speaker 7: forget because then I found out last week that you
Speaker 7: don't like asmr So that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're whispering out is pissing me off. I
Speaker 2: don't whisper man, I don't like amna whisper.
Speaker 8: That's an abusive power rude.
Speaker 2: What I gotta be nicer? She got my shirt?
Speaker 1: Is it possible for women, right, okay, to just go, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go have a drink, Let's go have a that's good, let's.
Speaker 2: Just go have it. Why you've got to always do stuff?
Speaker 2: You can't just have a drink you have to either
Speaker 2: shop and buy stuff you don't need.
Speaker 1: You got gourmet products, you got dildoze, you got all
Speaker 1: these things, or you go and I got Okay, So
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do? Yeah, I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: bottle of wine with my gal pals and we're gonna paint.
Speaker 2: You're not, but why not?
Speaker 8: Why not? And also can't you.
Speaker 6: Just have a drink?
Speaker 2: Is always going to be doing other stuff with it?
Speaker 7: We do that too, but sometimes we want to go
Speaker 7: and actually making an experience.
Speaker 8: You're welcome, do you ever? We are the We are.
Speaker 7: Attention oriented, detail oriented. Things like Octoberfest happen because of
Speaker 7: of women.
Speaker 5: Because we are.
Speaker 7: Organized, we have foresight, we can plan yourself.
Speaker 2: I gotta do it. We're gonna go. We are you
Speaker 2: gonna have a drink? Guys go? Hey, you want to
Speaker 2: get some You want to go grab a beer, maybe
Speaker 2: some wing? Sure, let's go. But hey, I got it?
Speaker 2: How about this? Why don't we end up? Well? Paint?
Speaker 8: How about this?
Speaker 7: You men miss out on the experience of being a
Speaker 7: woman going to the bathroom at a bar. We don't
Speaker 7: want to be going that that alone. You make lifelong
Speaker 7: friends in the bathroom. I'm just saying you get the
Speaker 7: most compliments. If somebody walks in wearing something, you're like,
Speaker 7: oh my gosh, where did you get that top? Those
Speaker 7: shoes are dorable. Yeah, let's be best friends. And then
Speaker 7: you know what you're doing. You're going out and you're
Speaker 7: getting a drink at.
Speaker 2: An xbox to right, No, no, you're not. When that person
Speaker 2: leads a restroom, you're crapping out them because she's no,
Speaker 2: she's such a slut.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 7: And then if she was, I'd be like, yes, go
Speaker 7: go live your life, have the most fun.
Speaker 8: We're supportive.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you people live with yourselves. I
Speaker 2: really don't. You know what's going on this weekend?
Speaker 7: So okay, so today is Friday. We'll start with today
Speaker 7: being Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 2: There's three of those, I believe in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: The first of three, Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 8: Really is that good luck or bad luck?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 8: This is so Friday the thirteenth tends to well. First
Speaker 8: and foremost.
Speaker 7: Krispy Kreme is giving away thirteen thousand glazed donuts at
Speaker 7: their locations. So and it's all random. So if you
Speaker 7: go to any other I don't even know where the nearest.
Speaker 2: Christmas west Chester and Tyler's will lane on that So.
Speaker 7: It's random the way that they're handing them out. I
Speaker 7: don't know how many they're handing out at each location.
Speaker 7: So if you're a donut fan, maybe just pop in
Speaker 7: to a Krispy Kreme. But Friday the thirteenth tends to
Speaker 7: be a really big day for flash tattoos. So if
Speaker 7: you are a tattoo person, check out, Hey, the parlor
Speaker 7: that I go to my tattoo artists that I like,
Speaker 7: see if that parlor is doing some sort of a
Speaker 7: flash tattoo pop up, because that's really really common in
Speaker 7: the tattoo world, I know, Friday, Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like dope smokers with four to twenty Sure, okay.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you don't have any tattoos?
Speaker 7: Do you? No?
Speaker 8: What do you get talked about this? Yeah? I think
Speaker 8: I'm going to get one at some.
Speaker 2: Point one of my teams wins the championship the tattoo.
Speaker 8: Or you can get the local on the shirt if.
Speaker 2: I wear it long enough. I love this shirt so much.
Speaker 7: Right there, they just walk around.
Speaker 2: You've got this topless. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 7: So there's an option any and I know some of
Speaker 7: them as the top of my head. North Side Electric
Speaker 7: Tattoo in North Side, Hive Tattoo in Westchester, so closer
Speaker 7: to where you are. And then Black Fern, which is
Speaker 7: one of my favorite tattoo shops off of Republic Street
Speaker 7: downtown throughout the day, so you know, check out, maybe
Speaker 7: it up So I'm not, but it's funny that you
Speaker 7: bring this up.
Speaker 2: I favorite tattoo shop because where.
Speaker 7: I want to go to get my tattoo. I want
Speaker 7: to do a sunflower. It's on the side of my
Speaker 7: I want to do it on the side of it to.
Speaker 1: Shave, aren't you it's on the side of my hip.
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a polar baron. Let me tell you.
Speaker 8: It's on the side of my hips. Come on.
Speaker 2: Geographic anyway, okay, so Dalent so okay.
Speaker 7: Let's get into Valentine that we've been teasing it out
Speaker 7: the last two weeks because good luck, I've looked. Good
Speaker 7: luck getting reservation anywhere. So find your dive bar uh
Speaker 7: even tickets for example, the Music Hall they're doing a tour.
Speaker 8: Nothing's no tickets remain.
Speaker 7: So here's a fun little idea that you still could
Speaker 7: go if you wanted to maybe pick up you know
Speaker 7: how they have those date night cards, challenge cards maybe
Speaker 7: to target today.
Speaker 2: No, I have no idea what that.
Speaker 7: The way that you just guessed made it seem like, wow,
Speaker 7: that's the greatest idea date night challenge cards. It's just
Speaker 7: activity driven, pre produced cards that you together. You open
Speaker 7: up and it's like you scratch it off and it's like, hey,
Speaker 7: go to you know, you're nearest waffle house.
Speaker 8: Or something like that. That's just a little different that
Speaker 8: allows you to just go, just go.
Speaker 2: You don't have to think about it.
Speaker 8: You don't have to overplan, but it still makes it
Speaker 8: fun and it makes.
Speaker 2: S We can get in a fight over just scratching
Speaker 2: the cards off. This is just a bad idea. If
Speaker 2: you've been married for a long time and know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, it's like you're getting it stuff all
Speaker 2: over the floor.
Speaker 8: I just clean. That's what the dog is for.
Speaker 2: Why are you using that? Use a quarter?
Speaker 8: Why are you using your key?
Speaker 7: All right, But this plan in this get up is
Speaker 7: for those who maybe have not planned at all and
Speaker 7: you're like, I need a last minute something, something that
Speaker 7: I know is gonna be sealed deal locked in all right,
Speaker 7: mad Tree. They're doing a Valentine's Day bingo and I
Speaker 7: am here.
Speaker 8: For this number one.
Speaker 7: I'm always a fan of going to play a little
Speaker 7: bingo at a bar because I'm ninety at hard.
Speaker 2: You're gonna be great. You're gonna be great, Old Lord God,
Speaker 2: I love it. I love and she eats. At four,
Speaker 2: she goes to bingos.
Speaker 8: I do.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: It's ninety in the studio. She's got a hat and
Speaker 2: coat on right now, she's cold.
Speaker 7: My Spotify playlist told me that I'm aged at the
Speaker 7: age of eighty six, so you're going to do great.
Speaker 7: The math is math again, I guess take what I
Speaker 7: say with a grain of salt. But if you're looking
Speaker 7: for something that's cheap, that's on the fly, then you're like, oh,
Speaker 7: I don't know what to do, but let's make it
Speaker 7: a full day thing. Sure, why don't you start in
Speaker 7: the morning and go to Matri do this bingo.
Speaker 8: It's from ten to noon.
Speaker 7: It's only five dollars entry and guess what that five
Speaker 7: dollars also goes towards a drink.
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's doctor friendly drinking game.
Speaker 2: It's a great enough If people don't hit alcohol, that'd
Speaker 2: be more inclined to play bingo.
Speaker 8: And that's what this is. See Soldia, I have.
Speaker 2: Have all your one fee, you go and you get
Speaker 2: the cards.
Speaker 8: Open bar open, Well, this is an open bar.
Speaker 2: You do have to No, I'm just saying i'd be
Speaker 2: a great idea.
Speaker 5: It would be.
Speaker 7: When the way that the way that I'm think when
Speaker 7: you said open marm like, could you do bingo at
Speaker 7: a wedding?
Speaker 2: That'd be fun, right you could shut yeah, because you
Speaker 2: generally there's a lot of sitting around talking to people
Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, keep a looking at your watch,
Speaker 2: give me something to do.
Speaker 8: And people who don't like to dance like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so yeah, they're doing bingo.
Speaker 7: And they also matri if you didn't know, they do
Speaker 7: serve brunch and this is at the Oakly locate. They
Speaker 7: do serve brunch, so you can get bronch beer, cider, wine, cocktails,
Speaker 7: boozed up and his dog friendly. Yeah, so you know what,
Speaker 7: or maybe maybe you do have a kid and you
Speaker 7: want to bingo, still celebrate, go play bingo tomorrow and.
Speaker 2: It's just madness to the list, Ali my funeral.
Speaker 7: Can I host it? Can I host the bingo? As
Speaker 7: long as I can host it.
Speaker 2: We're good Bingo and Cornhole.
Speaker 8: What are gonna be?
Speaker 7: What are the prizes going to be? Your things that
Speaker 7: you're trying to give away.
Speaker 2: I gotta build this up. I gotta think it is
Speaker 2: in my mind. I want it to be a thing.
Speaker 8: Put it in your will.
Speaker 2: The least serious funeral of all time.
Speaker 8: I like that.
Speaker 2: That's the only way I'll get people show up.
Speaker 8: To Okay, man Bingo.
Speaker 2: He was a real a hole and I don't want
Speaker 2: anything to do with this guy. Okay, Well I got
Speaker 2: a chance to win the door prize.
Speaker 7: So you have to bribe people to open bar, open bar, Bingo,
Speaker 7: corn hoole, maybe beer. I'm here, it's it's beer Olympics.
Speaker 7: Ye there you go, there, you baby. You also can
Speaker 7: watch the Olympics this weekend too.
Speaker 2: You ain't drinking, you ain't coming next all right.
Speaker 7: So after you go to Bingo and again this is
Speaker 7: for tomorrow, they are doing Marty Grass around the corner
Speaker 7: Marty Gras at the park in Washington Park.
Speaker 8: And this is a full day thing from noon to six.
Speaker 7: It's supposed to be a little bit warmer, So get
Speaker 7: your butt out of the house, get some steps in
Speaker 7: they're gonna have music all day and the different lineup
Speaker 7: of music throughout the day. We're gonna have like face
Speaker 7: painting and jugglers and stilt walkers and fire dancers and
Speaker 7: fortune tellers.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like that's the party. It is a party.
Speaker 2: It's just a vibe. It's not like you have to
Speaker 2: watch them. They're just around for the atmosphere. Decoration, human decoration,
Speaker 2: entertainment is what they like to call it.
Speaker 8: It's a vibe.
Speaker 7: And they're gonna have a kin cake eating contest, endless
Speaker 7: drinks so you can hang out at the porch.
Speaker 8: I'm a firm believer that Washington.
Speaker 7: Park, that little porch area that they built out, that
Speaker 7: little bar area, it's just so fun. So add that
Speaker 7: to your lineup and it's affordable, right, And maybe while
Speaker 7: you're down there, maybe you want to swing over to
Speaker 7: Finlay Market and then this could be your time to
Speaker 7: do a little stroll, get some dinner and maybe because
Speaker 7: if you didn't make a reservation, you just make dinner
Speaker 7: at home, but you have day plans instead of night.
Speaker 2: I gotcha. And when is this going down?
Speaker 8: This is happening tomorrow.
Speaker 7: Okay, So if you didn't book a dinner, reverse your day,
Speaker 7: do stuff during the day and then maybe make a dinner.
Speaker 2: And it's a little yeah, okay, got it. So it's
Speaker 2: a little Marty Graff. Speaking of which, speaking Tuesday night,
Speaker 2: I will be doing again with Sheila Gray, my queen,
Speaker 2: and Sarah's going to be there.
Speaker 1: John John's going to be there from Kiss one o seven.
Speaker 1: Tom Brenneman, my boy's.
Speaker 2: Going to be there.
Speaker 1: This will be his first, his first Marty Graft for
Speaker 1: homeless Kids at the Northern Kentucky Convention Center. So tickets
Speaker 1: available still at Marty Grot twenty twenty six dot Oregon.
Speaker 1: The money goes it's like one hundred bucks. Take one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five for the VIP, which is an hour,
Speaker 1: get an extra hour drinking and eating nice and it
Speaker 1: all goes to feed homeless kids in Cincinnati north of
Speaker 1: Kentucky for whole year, oh year of lunch. I love it.
Speaker 1: And you eat and drink and it's unbelievable. You're done
Speaker 1: by ten o'clock. So yeah, you can go home and
Speaker 1: not ruin your day the next day unless you want
Speaker 1: you or get a hotel across the street, take the
Speaker 1: day off.
Speaker 2: I ain't judging I think that's a great idea. Have
Speaker 2: done that before and it's a blast, it's it's and
Speaker 2: you've been and it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the food is great. Yeah, I do actually all.
Speaker 7: Right now with Tom this is his first year going.
Speaker 7: Is he going to try to dethrown you or do
Speaker 7: you feel that's good? And I don't feel does you
Speaker 7: know you could get heat in the head with somebody.
Speaker 1: Doesn't know that? Not that fancy. Yeah, he's gonna get haze, right, you.
Speaker 8: Know, hopefully this power just doesn't get to your head and.
Speaker 2: Trying it always does?
Speaker 8: It really does? It really does. What are you gonna wear?
Speaker 7: Well? You have?
Speaker 2: I always have the cape and the helmet? What does
Speaker 2: that call it? The crown? You should you should wear?
Speaker 2: I need help. I gotta dig out. I don't know
Speaker 2: where it is my old hockey helmet with the visor
Speaker 2: on it. Where you get that?
Speaker 8: Oh that's funny?
Speaker 5: H Yeah?
Speaker 8: And so Marty grow up right?
Speaker 7: Speaking of Also at Filly Marching, they are doing a
Speaker 7: Marty Gras Brunch action on Sunday. So we've moved on
Speaker 7: to Sunday and it's kind of an all day thing
Speaker 7: from ten to four o'clock. You can buy tickets ahead
Speaker 7: of time it's sample tickets, or you can buy them
Speaker 7: on site. And you want to talk about a slew
Speaker 7: of every possible you know, taste testing opportunity from Marty Girl,
Speaker 7: Classics from Eli's Barbecue pro Yes, Taste the Belgium like everything.
Speaker 8: And then they also have a line of.
Speaker 7: Sweet treats, treats, sweat treats if he wants some sweat treats.
Speaker 8: I do love kN cake.
Speaker 2: I never I'll tell you what, I'm not a huge
Speaker 2: fan of king cake because I've had It's like and
Speaker 2: Servati does ours at the end, and they brought some
Speaker 2: the other day. I had a huge piece. It was
Speaker 2: so good. When it's fresh, it was amazing. It's the icing,
Speaker 2: It's the icing.
Speaker 8: It's the There's just something about the king cake.
Speaker 2: You know they put it on because it's kind of
Speaker 2: like they take like a gloved hand or maybe just
Speaker 2: the bare hand and they just scoop the cream up
Speaker 2: and just splat it all over the top of the
Speaker 2: cake with our bare hands.
Speaker 8: Is that yeah? Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, makes it just over the top of it. Their
Speaker 2: hands all full of like kinkcake color.
Speaker 7: Honestly, that's probably that's very genius because I feel like
Speaker 7: anytime I try to put icing.
Speaker 2: On, we're supposed to look all and then they dump
Speaker 2: a ton of colored sugar on top of it too,
Speaker 2: so it covers it all. It fits the nooks and crannies.
Speaker 2: It's a whole time. It's a lot of sugar.
Speaker 7: Sprinkles. Sprinkles are having a comeback. I'm just saying, all right,
Speaker 7: so get yourself a cancake. Dial in on that. Just
Speaker 7: some other quick things, real quick. Yeah again, if you
Speaker 7: didn't plan last minute, here we go. You see the
Speaker 7: health ice rink downtown, Maybe look into going ice skating
Speaker 7: because as it worms up, who.
Speaker 2: Knows reservation at this point? Good luck?
Speaker 8: Good luck?
Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, we tried. We tried a couple of weeks
Speaker 7: in advance. Cobblestone and OTR they're doing this Cupid's Corner
Speaker 7: pop up. I mean, Valentine's Day threw up in that
Speaker 7: bar and it looks great. Eaton Park, maybe take can
Speaker 7: stroll an eating park, get some takeout, favorite Chinese joint,
Speaker 7: whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: Why it's gonna be one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then also another thing that could be fun
Speaker 7: a record store and like coffee shop combo if you're
Speaker 7: music people. Maybe turn that into a date. Head to
Speaker 7: a coffee shop and then go to a record store.
Speaker 1: Sure you're gonna you're scribbing the bottom barrel. If you
Speaker 1: didn't plan, now that's what you're gonna be doing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I try.
Speaker 2: It's gonna go to Speedway, get some beef, jerk in
Speaker 2: a trucker, had Ali Martin, Local Loop at Ali Martin
Speaker 2: the number eight. Go see my shirt there, get one
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