1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Talk station seven thirty two if you have KCD talk station, 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Happy Thursday slash Friday Eve Empower You Seminar tonight, which 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: is typical Tuesdays and Thursdays. Although it was the g 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Van Fleef Power You Seminar last night. I hope you 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: were able to attend that virtually Tonight's seminar. You can 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: attend either live at three hundred Great Oaks Drive or 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: online by logging in at empower Youoamerica dot org. Just 8 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: make sure you register in either case to see on 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: the one sixty second anniversary of Gettysburg Dress Abraham Lincoln 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: in person live for the Empower You Seminar. Welcome to 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: the program, Abraham Lincoln aka Larry Elliott. It's great to 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: have you on today, Larry Abraham. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's great to be on here today, sir. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: Yes, Howdy, Joe, how are you doing? 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: I'm Brian, Joe's the producer anyway, that's all right. So 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: you've been portraying Abraham Lincoln for what I understand is 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: twenty two years. You actually embraced the carrier. It's like 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: method acting. You are the embodiment of Abraham Lincoln when 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: you're doing these presentations. I understand you do this at 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of schools and other events. How did you 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: get involved with this Abraham Lincoln impersonation? What drove you 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: to that? 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 2: Larry, Well, the long and short of it, as Abe 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: would say, I'm actually from Hodgenville, Kentucky, where Lincoln was born. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: I've been there, Yes, the birthplace. 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: Yes, we went on a motorcycle my uncle and I 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: went on a motorcycle trip. That was really cool. That 28 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: the cabin inside that monument, that that was amazing. That 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: place was tiny, that cabin that he was born in. 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Yes, imagine living in that one room, dirt floor log cabin. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Four folks, I'm all Paul's sister, and only room enough 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: for one bed. That would always be given a course 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 2: to my mama. But in answer to your question, about 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: twenty two years ago, I had a full beard and 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: my wife said, why don't you enter the lookalike contests, 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: which is always the first Saturday in October, and dress 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: up like Abraham Lincoln and you're you know, you're kind 38 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: of homely like him, and she's she's actually true. I mean, 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: if God do you have the homely look? 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 3: I have? 41 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: The gate is Abraham Lincoln and I entered the contest 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: and I did terrible, and one of the Lincolns that 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: was in the contest said. 44 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: Would you want to join us? 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Join us what's called the Abraham Lincoln Association presenters about 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty at the time. 47 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: And I began to look, and I looked up. 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: You know, well, what's it like to be an Abraham 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: Lincoln impersonator? We call ourselves presenters because we leave the 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: word impersonator for Elvis Presley. And so I started going 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: into schools. The schools love it. When I go to 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: about one hundred schools a year and I dress up, 53 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: of course as Abraham Lincoln, the. 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: Kids love it. 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: And I've been to fifteen hundred schools over the last 56 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: twenty two years and get ready to go to about 57 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: one hundred more here in February, March, and April. And 58 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 2: my link, Brian to Lincoln is this. Now Many people 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: ask me, Oh, you're from Hodgenville. You must be ken 60 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: to Abraham Lincoln. I said, no, I'm not. But my 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: link to Lincoln is this my personal Larry Ellie, it's personal. 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Great great great grandmother Mary Brooks LaRue was the midwife 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: who delivered Abraham Lincoln. February twelfth, eighteen oh nine. 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: How about that that's amazing. Well, the birthplace, your stature, 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: of course that connection. Plus your wife is named Mary 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: as well, so a lot of great reasons to be 67 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln. To characterize Abraham Lincoln. What you're going to 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: be doing tonight beginning at seven pm at the empower 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: Youse some on our studious three hundred Great Oaks Tribe. 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm Benn Postise. I want to bring you back Ausse. 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: I ask you a few questions about Abraham Lincoln's life, 72 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: and I understand that you offer insights into a lot 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: of interesting information about Abraham Lincoln that most of us 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: don't know about. So let's let's bring Larry Elliot aka 75 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln back after these brief words beginning with Zimmer 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: heating and air condition the best in the business. They've 77 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: been keep an area home safe, efficient and comfortable. The 78 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: talk station seventh thirty nine, iif you above Kerseity talk station, 79 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas here talking with Larry Elliot aka Abraham Lincoln. 80 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: He's been sort of serving as the embodiment at Abraham Lincoln, 81 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: doing presentations at groups and for obviously schools. More than 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred schools have enjoyed his presentation about the life 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: of Abraham Lincoln. You can do a Q and A 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: and ask Abraham Lincoln questions because apparently Larry knows everything. 85 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: There is no about Abe real quick here, Larry. It's 86 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: one thing to look like Abe Lincoln, which you do. 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Apparently it's six foot four year slim. You describe yourself 88 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: as homely. Let people draw their own subjective conclusions about 89 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: that born in Abraham Lincoln's hometown. It's one thing to 90 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: look like him, maybe talk like him, but it's another 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: thing to know all about him. How did you acquire 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: all of this wealth of insight into the man who 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: was Abraham Lincoln? 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Larry well the long and short of it, and is 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: reading books. There are currently seventeen thousand books on Abraham 96 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 2: Lincoln or about Abraham Lincoln, more books written on that 97 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: man than any other person in the world other than 98 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. So it takes a long time to perfect 99 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: a portrayal of the Lincoln of Abraham Lincoln, and so 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: real a real quick story that's funny to hear. Is 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: the first time I did a portrayal in the school 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: I asked my friend to evaluate me, and afterwards we 103 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 2: went to lunch. He's my best friend, and I said, 104 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: what'd you think, Mike? And he didn't say anything, and 105 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: I said, well, Mike, what'd you think? And he said, well, 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: don't quit your day job. 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he does. That's what I said. Okay, 108 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: I guess you love me. 109 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: And he said it was bad, and so he's a 110 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: very good critic. So I took some acting lessons and 111 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I'm going to portray this man. 112 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have the same date as him, try to 113 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: have the same voice inflection as him, even though we 114 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: don't know totally what that was. It was kind of 115 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: a hish, real voice, but just bringing history to the 116 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: country because all these kids and most of these folks 117 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: love Abraham Lincoln, but they really don't know much about him. 118 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: So over the years, I have just crafted a portrayal, 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: a presentation, and it's a lot of it's different depending 120 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: on the audience where I am. So tonight's audience will 121 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: be a little bit different because. 122 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on for an hour. 123 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: Some places I go to, you know, they only want 124 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: me on for twenty or thirty minutes and so, but 125 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: I can talk for five hours. You've given that much 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: time because there's so much to talk about in so 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: little time. So long and short answer to your question 128 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: is just reading book, reading reading books and reading books 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: and crafting my own way of elocuting what Abraham Lincoln 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: would say. Everything I will say tonight is authentically accurate. 131 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: And I hope I'm questioned on anything because I think 132 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: I'll have the answer, but I might not. 133 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: So long and short of it, that's answer your question. 134 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: Well, that's amazing and fun fact I learned today that 135 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: many books are written about Abraham Lincoln. I guess I 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised about that. This, I would hope, and 137 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm encouraging. This kind of goes with that saying, since 138 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: you quite often do this presentation for school children and 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: younger people, that maybe get them around to tell or 140 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: the screen tonight or over to the seminar of the classroom, 141 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: because they're certainly going to enjoy this, but adults will 142 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: presumably be there as well. I guess I want to 143 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: offer a question to you because you do have insights 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: that are not well known. We know about the Gettysburger address, 145 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: We know about the Civil War, we know about his 146 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: connection with ending slavery. A lot of the fun facts 147 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: that we're all now. But what pull out randomly some 148 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: interesting things that you find fascinating about Abraham Lincoln the 149 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: most people aren't even aware of. 150 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: Well, Abraham Lincoln was thought of as an abolitionist, and 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: that's the last thing he was. 152 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 3: Now. 153 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: He was against slavery. He was taught in Kentucky. If 154 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: slavery isn't wrong, nothing is wrong. He saw slaves going 155 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: down to Louisville Nashville road, dirt road in eighteen or 156 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: eighteen fifteen as a six. 157 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: Year old boy. He knew it was wrong. 158 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: His father was a member of the very conservative anti 159 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: slavery church, and his father moved to Indiana partly on 160 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: account of slavery because Indiana was opening up as a free. 161 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: State in eighteen sixteen. 162 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 2: And so Lincoln from his early years just knew slavery 163 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: was wrong. He began to put too and two together 164 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: that you know the Decoration of Independence that a all 165 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: men are created equal? What's with the founding fathers allowing 166 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: slavery in the greatest document, the Constitution the world has 167 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: ever known. But what many folks don't know. Brian is 168 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: the founding fathers. Fifty two of the fifty six where 169 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: Judeo Christian Christians, and they many of them had slaves. 170 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: They had inherited slavery, and we had just won the 171 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: American Revolutionary War and it was time to do away 172 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: with slavery. But they couldn't because the South would not compromise. 173 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: For they said, if we have to have if you 174 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: we have to do away with our slaves here now 175 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: after the American Revolutionary War, well, we're not going to 176 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: join these northern states that had all but eboli slavery. 177 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: So as the war began, most folks thought that Abraham 178 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: Lincoln would let the South go, but he said right 179 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: after the first shot was fired, this nation is worth 180 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: fighting for. To secure such an inestimable jewel. A portion 181 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: of the people cannot destroy what the whole people created. 182 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: I must save this government. So what the bigger picture 183 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: that folks need to know is that Abraham Lincoln had 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: let them go, let the eleven states go that seceded, 185 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: we would probably be an entirely different looking country today. Yeah, 186 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 2: and so that'll be a good part of my program tonight, 187 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: to let the people know just you know, Abraham Lincoln 188 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: Brian single handedly saved our nation. And if you come tonight, 189 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a DVD of the Daniel 190 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: da Lewis video twelve years ago portraying Lincoln getting the 191 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Emancipation Proclamation passed as the thirteenth Ammendment January thirty first, 192 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: eighteen sixty five. 193 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Well, that's wonderful. It's an extra centive for people to 194 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: show up at three hundred Great Oaks Drive tonight at 195 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: seven pm to hear you speak. 196 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: Yes, three do you ever give a d. 197 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: It's not a question I would think a young person 198 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: would ask, but I imagine adult might ask because I've heard 199 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: this many times over the years. Yes, I agree with 200 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: everything you said. That our country would not be the 201 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: way it is now but for Abraham Lincoln. And is 202 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, demanding that the Union remain intact. But what 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: of the question of the foundation of our country and 204 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: the declaration of independence? We have a right to self 205 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: determination if the government is not honoring our wishes and 206 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: serving our interest, that we have a right to break free. 207 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that the argument that many advance on behalf of 208 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: the South? Listen, you had no right to force them 209 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: to stay or go to war with them overstaying they 210 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: wanted to leave. 211 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: Well, indeed, you know, the South said it had nothing to. 212 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: Do with slavery, which is absolutely wrong, right, It had 213 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: everything to do with what the Founding Father's vision was. 214 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: Lincoln was ahead of his time in a sense, you know, 215 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: the Founding fathers. You know, Lincoln said this that no 216 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: state can leave the Union without the consensus of the others. 217 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: We must stay together to preserve this wonderful constitution, a 218 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: declaration of the people, by the people and for the people. 219 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: What we must realize is in eighteen sixty the world 220 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: was still about kings and tyrants and dictators, and the 221 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: world wanted us to fail. 222 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: They wanted this new government to fail. 223 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: And Lincoln said, no, this Union is the world's best 224 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: hope for democracy. I must save this government. So he 225 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: single handedly he could have let them go, and you know, 226 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 2: there would have been peace. And in the middle of 227 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: the war, many folks said, how many more soldiers Americans 228 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: killing Americans? Mister President, you call yourself and commander in chief. 229 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: No soldiers have to die in order before you will 230 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 2: let them go. And he said, as many as it 231 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: takes to preserve the Union. 232 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: Wow. Well, this is going to be absolutely fascinating, the 233 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: portrayal of Abraham Lincoln on My guest today, Larry Elliott, 234 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: Tonight seven pm. Empower Youeamerica dot Org. I recommend you 235 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: show up. It's going to be wonderful to see and 236 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: live at three hundred Great Oaks Drive, but online if 237 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: you can't make it in person. But if you do 238 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: show up, you got that DVD waiting for you. Thank you, 239 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: Larry for doing that. I appreciate what you're doing all 240 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: the time with this presentation, giving people an eye full 241 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: of history and putting some context in this very complicated 242 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: man who was Abraham Lincoln President during extremely complicated times. 243 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: Thanks again, Larry. I wish you all the luck in 244 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: the world. I don't think you need it, but enjoy 245 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: the presentation tonight. I hope it's well attended.