1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,160 Speaker 1: Radio station. 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: Guaranteed Humans. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: On Sunday night, as the Steelers were being beaten down 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 3: by the Buffalo Bills, Trib Live hockey reporter Seth Roba 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: sent out the following tweet. Mike Tomlin will say we 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: can't eat soup with forks, we need spoons. Then the 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: Steelers will sign a twenty eighteen pro bowler to the 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: practice squad lo and behold. On Tuesday, Mike Tomlin compared 9 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: his level of confidence in the Steelers to media members 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: writing columns, and the Steelers signed twenty eighteen pro bowler 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: Adam Thielen. So in the vein of trib Live employees 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: speaking the absurd into reality, I am predicting that the 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: next time the power ball hits a billion dollars, I 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: will win it. Twenty eleven Era, Brooklyn Decker is going 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: to slide into myn DMS and Carmelo Anthony's kid is 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: gonna take Syracuse to a national title like his dad did. 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: Check back with me in two days. I'll let you 18 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: know how things are going, is Brooklyn Decker on Twitter. 19 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm Tim Benz. This is the Mark Madden Show. Mark 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: is off today. Let's stick with the theme of speaking 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: things into existence, shall we. It's only taken half a 22 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: decade or so for the national media and former Steelers 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: players to catch on to what some media people like 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: you know myself and Mark Madden have been saying for 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: years that is time for the Steelers to fire Mike Tomlin. 26 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: And maybe enough people are talking about it now that 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: artrunning the Second will eventually listen. 28 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh my kidding, he's not gonna listen. 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: But right now, though, the latest voice in the din 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: calling for a change at the head coaching position for 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers is a pretty well known Pittsburgh Steeler. 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: It's Ben Roethlisberger on his Football In podcast. I bring 33 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: in Tommy Radio right now to help me surf through 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: these sound bites. Tom Let's play the first one from 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 3: Ben's most recent Football In podcast, where not only does 36 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: he call for a change the head coaching position, he 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: has a very intriguing future destination for Mike Tomlin. 38 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a clean house time. Maybe it is. 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: Maybe it's time, and I like Coach Tomlin. I have 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: a lot of respect Coach Tomlin. But maybe it's best 41 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: for him too. Maybe maybe a fresh start for him 42 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: is what's best. Whether that's in the pros, whether maybe 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 4: Gobe Penn State's head coach. 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: You know what he would do in Penn State. 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: He'd probably go win national championships legitimause. 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: He's a great recruiter. That's what I was having to comment. 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: We probably had this probably or I was having this 48 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: conversation the other day. 49 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: I'm like, coach t in college would be one of 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 4: the greatest college football coaches. 51 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: Wood he or would he just lose to Minnesota after 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 3: he beat Michigan, because it wouldn't be like Franklin. 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 5: Tom. 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: It would be different than frank He would lose to Minnesota, 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: then beat Michigan, maybe Ohio State, and then get upset 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: in the first round of the playoff. 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: That's what he would do. 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 6: What would be his version of backing into the playoffs 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 6: in college football? That would be like going nine and three, right, 60 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: Like he'd go nine and three every year, just be 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 6: like right on the edge. 62 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: But he'll be nine wins, yeah everything, Yeah. 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 6: It has to be nine wins exactly and just have 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 6: everything kind of fall around him appropriately in the Big 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 6: ten in the college football landscape to get into it. 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 6: Why do we know that Tom would be a great 67 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 6: recruiter because of all his great experience going out on 68 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 6: the high school football trail and recruiting in the transfer portal. 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: Well, he's been a great recruiter lately. I mean, look 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: at how great Darius Slay and Won Thornhill worked. 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: Out perfect signings. 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 6: DK Metcalf's looks like he's going to bear a ton 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: of fruit for the next three or four years. 74 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: When's is the Penn State pit rivalry renew when's the 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: next time sat Stadium? 76 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: You mean the Pinstripe Bowl coming up in a little Oh, yes, 77 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: we'll get to that certainly. 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, although that's a great idea, That would be a 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: great idea if he were to become Penn State's coach. 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 3: And then the first act is Penn State's coach, which 81 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: is to lose to Nardoozi in New York City in 82 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: the Pinstripe Bowl. 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: But I see your angle here. 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 6: You're just trying to get Tomlin and Nardoozy on opposite 85 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 6: sidelines the Nardoozy Tomlin matchup, Yes, I am, because it 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 6: wouldn't happen in time for the Pinstripe Bowl coming up here. 87 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 6: The Steelers would still be playing this season. But I 88 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 6: see your angle. 89 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: In this. 90 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 6: Imagine a season Tim where Franklin, Belichick, and Tomlin all 91 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 6: come to Akroscher Stadiums to play against Pat Nardoozy's. 92 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: You almost said it. 93 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: You almost didn't say play, You almost said something else. 94 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing, so my head finished 95 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: the sentence. But I'm right there with you, Tom. If 96 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: you want to see me have a coronary, if you 97 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 3: want to see me have a conniption, if you want 98 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: to see me committed to Western psych Mike Tomlin becomes 99 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: head coach of Penn State after he used me as 100 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: a prop in his monologue about how there isn't a 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: booster with a check big enough six years ago when 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 3: this first came up, You remember that when Carson Palmer 103 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: was talking about him going to USC. 104 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 6: Do I remember it? LSU came up too. 105 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: Brought him up for LSU and then blame me for 106 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: talking about it, because that's what Ryan does. 107 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 6: But when I was supposed to tell the coach that 108 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 6: I was saying that, Tim, he was supposed to ignore 109 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 6: it on his own. 110 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: You can't ask him at a press conference. 111 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: So when he blew his stack when I even broached 112 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 3: the topic, if this were to wind up being true, 113 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: I would have the meltdown of all meltdowns. 114 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: You would have to commit me. 115 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 6: You have to ask on Tuesday, right about Penn State 116 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 6: if they win, have to Tim. 117 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: If they win, it's an easy one for you. 118 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 3: If they win against Baltimore, it would almost be funny 119 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: if I did it right. 120 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 6: Especially coming from you, especially because you know Tomlin remembers 121 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: you with lsu usc and we all know that a 122 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 6: week from now, Penn State's still not gonna have a coach. 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 6: So you don't think you don't think they're gonna finally 124 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 6: hire somebody. 125 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: Oh, they can't ruin my fun and hire somebody, can they? No, 126 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: they got to let this marinate a little bit. Ben 127 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: tomin th Ben just put this out into the ether. 128 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: What this get published last night? So it's still in 129 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: that twenty four hour news cycle. Let's get this some 130 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: nice legs here, Tomin to Penn State. Penn State's gonna 131 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: love that. Was that just an ext temporaneous thought from Ben? 132 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: Or did someone plant that in him. 133 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: Like a Penn State booster? Yeah? Like, Hey, here's a little. 134 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm probably sounding a little bit too much like there's 135 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: subtrifuge there, Like, did somebody just bring it up to him. 136 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: Do you think there was a natural thought like he 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: was just free speaking, said yeah, what about him at 138 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: Penn State. 139 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 6: I think it could have been more of just a 140 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 6: stream of conscious thing he was. He was more going 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 6: into it from the fresh start approach, and then he 142 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 6: was trying to rack in his brain like what could 143 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: I do? What's a the school? Who could I grab? 144 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 6: I'm not going to do an NFL take. Everybody has 145 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 6: that same tire take. What the Ben Roethlisberger sound by 146 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 6: here's his leverage. 147 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin wants this job. Ben Roethlisberger is talking about it. 148 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 6: Look at how great we are, right, I mean we 149 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 6: called Tomlin too right, just say that we would have 150 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 6: had the kid, we would have had the fort Cherry. 151 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 6: Tomlin had said, yes right there, yes exactly. So I 152 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 6: would definitely lean into it. You have to ask, though, 153 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: I mean, come on, it's a layup for you right there. 154 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 6: I can see you right now. 155 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: Oh. 156 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: Brooke already baited me on Twitter about having to ask 157 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 3: about Ben States. She sent the tweet out she knew 158 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: I would respond, I responded, Now, I feel obliged. 159 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 6: It's gonna be even better since they're going to lose 160 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 6: to Baltimore, and you're gonna asked the question of Baltimore. 161 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: I can't ask him if Henry two hundred yards rushing. 162 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 6: You go to Penn State, coach, do you think I'd 163 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 6: get a. 164 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: Different response or would he just like storm off the 165 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: podium like he did. 166 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 6: We might give you that eye, that that side eye 167 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 6: storm off the podium, which would be great. Imagine if 168 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 6: you ended the press conference at like twelve fifteen on Tuesday, what. 169 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: If like Jack Ham showed up and asked he couldn't 170 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: do that to Jack cam. 171 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: How about Ben? 172 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: Ben? I mean, come on, what is Spence came in 173 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: on behalf of Ben Roethlisberger. 174 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Chef Evan. 175 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 6: Chef Evan comes in and asks and he can cook 176 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: up a nice little dish for Tom On to ease 177 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 6: the ease himself into the question. 178 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is Tomlin's favorite treat on the road? Oh, 179 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: chicken wings. 180 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: He always talks about chicken wings, her ice wings for 181 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: your coach. Yeah, you go to Penn State. All right, 182 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: to Ben's next summit, because there's a theme developing within 183 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 3: Ben's soundbites. 184 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to this next one. 185 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: You don't fire a guy like coach Tomlin. He's a 186 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame coach, easier respect. 187 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: What you do is you come to an understanding and 188 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: agreement and it's like, hey, listen, I think it's probably 189 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,679 Speaker 4: best for both of us, and you don't. Because listen, 190 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: we've had different We've had the same head coach and 191 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: coach Tomlin. We've had different office of coordinators, different defensive coordinators, 192 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: but it's kind of been the same story. 193 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: We've had a few court office coordinators. 194 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: Now on the offense looks a lot the same that 195 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: this looks a lot like Mtcannon's offense. I mean in 196 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: terms of just like where's the splash, where's this? 197 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: Where's you know? Players? Is the scheme great and the 198 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: players are messing up? We don't know. 199 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: I'm just saying from from sitting back on the couch 200 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: at home watching and the defense is you've got the 201 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: highest paid defense and guys, we just talked about it 202 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: like there's no reason to some of the things that 203 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: are happening are happening. So therefore it tells me, you 204 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: go a coach, listen, let's I think it's probably best 205 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 4: for all parties involved. Let's start over. It happened with 206 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 4: Chuck Nole, happens with Coach Coward. Now, Coach Cowards was 207 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: a little bit different, right because the family things coach 208 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: has been in Coach Thomas been a long time. 209 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: Now, there's a lot right that Ben Roethlisberger said. They're 210 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: talking about the coordinators, talking about the state of the 211 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: offense not being all that different, talking about how the 212 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: defense is so overrated and so over paid. 213 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: All of that is accurate. 214 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 3: The problem that I've got with what he said there 215 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: was at the very very beginning of that SoundBite, you 216 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: don't fire Mike Tomlin. 217 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: Yes you do, Yes, you do. And that's the one. 218 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: Bit of angst that I still have with how the 219 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: national media is portraying this story. The one twist that 220 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 3: I've got to this as now Rich Eisen is jumping 221 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: on board, Mike Greenberg is jumping on board former Steelers, 222 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 3: even not his big name as Ben Roethlisberger are jumping 223 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: on board. National outlets are talking about a divorce coming 224 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. People are starting to 225 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: embrace a new chapter head Coach finally being written for 226 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: the Steelers after Mike Tomlin, but still no one is 227 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: backing it from the standpoint of Art Rudy, the second 228 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 3: acting with the directive of his own to fire the coach. 229 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 3: It's got to be a mutual party. It's got to 230 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: be something that they come together on. It's got to 231 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: be a trade to the Giants. It's got to be 232 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: a neatly worded press release. No, it doesn't and it 233 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: probably won't be. And maybe it's because people don't want 234 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: the messy divorce. You know, Tom, I went through a 235 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: very easy divorce. It's nice when it happens, it's great 236 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: when it happens. It could have gone the other way. 237 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: Thankfully for me it didn't. Yes, but I've seen them 238 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: go the other way for other people before. It's not 239 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: always easy. It can be messy, and this one might 240 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: be messy because, as Ben just said right there, it 241 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 3: was easy for the Steelers because Chuck Nole didn't coach again. 242 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: Bill Cowar didn't coach again. It's still on the desk 243 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: at CBS. 244 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of time there. No 245 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: everybody thought Chuck Noll was done. But had Brown Anthers, 246 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: the Giants. Yeah, those three teams we just said them 247 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: within the span of five years. But there was always 248 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: this thought that it was as much about money, if 249 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: not more, than it was about K. And like if 250 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: somebody came along and offered him more money, we didn't 251 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: know how sick k really was at the time. Like, 252 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of retrospective history and sort 253 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: of whitewashing of that situation that has been done. But 254 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: there was mass speculation within the Pittsburgh media the coward 255 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 3: was going to go elsewhere, mass and that's gonna happen 256 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: here with Tomlin, and he is not going to stay 257 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: on the sidelines. I don't think he is a football 258 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: lifer and more interested and more wed to the game 259 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: than Cower ever was. Everybody within the walls of that 260 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 3: office says that everybody coward other interests. 261 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Cower wanted to do TV. He was done. 262 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: He had his girls that were still playing basketball at 263 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: the time. If I'm if I'm thinking of this, Mike's 264 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: kids are older now than Bill's kids were when he 265 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: stepped away. So like, the timing is not there for 266 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: Tomlin to go away gracefully into the hinter lands or 267 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: you know, just be on the desk with Rex Ryan. 268 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. It's gonna be messy, warm up to. 269 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 6: It, no doubt, because they just ignore the fact that 270 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 6: it has to be you know, both parties that want 271 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 6: to do this. And if the Steelers go to Mike 272 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 6: Tomlin and say, hey, it's time for us to move on, 273 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 6: we don't want to have these you know, rapaport headlines 274 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 6: and all this stuff about Steelers fire Mike Tomlin. We 275 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 6: don't want that attached to either of us, Mike, So 276 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 6: why don't we just mutually agree that this is it's 277 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 6: time to move on? 278 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: Right? 279 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: We go with that, Toma just goes no, I want 280 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: to say, I think I like it here, You're gonna 281 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: have to fire him. Then at that point, if you 282 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 3: don't have the guts to do it, then you're stuck 283 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: with the coach who is beneath you, deciding that he 284 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: gets to keep his own job. And you know what 285 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: else that they're not willing to do. I bet you 286 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: they're not even willing to go to him on the 287 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: no trade clause thing, because it's a Getty Malkins situation. 288 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: Once you open up the Pandora's box of hey, Mike, 289 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: somebody's interested what you don't want me anymore? Then it 290 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: really gets sour. And then you kind of have to 291 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: make the move and maybe you don't have the leverage 292 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 3: to get back what you think is worthy. Although if 293 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: you were to go to the Giants, it's got to 294 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: be their first round pick or nothing. 295 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: Right, And really, how messy is it you fire your coach? 296 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Everybody does that? 297 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 6: What you have to wear a steven as being mad 298 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 6: at you for a news cycle on first take, like 299 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 6: this isn't like an actual even behind it now though, 300 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 6: well it's not like the actual divorce where like you 301 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 6: have to pay alimony to Mike Tomlin for the rest 302 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 6: of your life, like every fifth round half do I 303 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 6: mean like there might be well, every fifth round pick 304 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 6: has to go to Mike Tomlin now and then momset language. 305 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: That's the same thing as alimony, but. 306 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: It's not as extreme like that, Like, sure you're gonna 307 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: have to bear the news cycle of Steelers finally fire 308 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: a head coach. 309 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: Who really cares, Like that's mild stuff. 310 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 6: Every other team goes through that, and in fact, when 311 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 6: every other team goes through it, it's quite often cheered. 312 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: On by the media. It's decision, he's stunk. Who's going 313 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: to be the new hire? What's going to be more awkward? 314 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: Firing Mike Tomlin in January if they've finished below five hundred, 315 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: or they lose out, or if it really gets bad. 316 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: What's going to be more awkward firing him two months 317 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: from now or five months from now when you're on 318 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: the clock at pick ten and everybody's chanting fire Tomlin 319 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: because he's still on the staff. 320 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: Because they will. Yeah, but then they wouldn't fire him 321 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 6: after that. They wouldn't like go to the draft them. 322 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: Say if you want awkwardness, if you want how is 323 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: this going to look on the outside it's going to 324 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: happen if they lose out, what are they gonna do? 325 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 6: The crowd for twelve picks over three days on ESPY 326 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 6: don't care about that either. I mean that there's no 327 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 6: way that they're going to do that. So, yeah, it's 328 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 6: gonna come through, and you're right, it's going to get ugly. 329 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: I just don't think that that's gonna Shan. 330 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: Might not, but uh NFL network might whitewash that a 331 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: little bit. 332 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 6: That's true, But I don't do you think that will 333 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 6: shake them at all? 334 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: No? 335 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: No, But I mean, like if it's you're to your point, 336 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: like that's what's an uncomfortable moment. Why are you willing 337 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: to lean into that one? But not like you know, 338 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: people saying, hell, you finally fired a head coach. Rooney's 339 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: don't fire head coaches. This one did well. Ben has 340 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: an answer to make all of these tough conversations go away. 341 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 4: Give him a statue, do it, do whatever whatever you 342 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: got to do, because he deserves it, He's earned it. 343 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: But it's it's like, Okay, it's time to find that 344 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: next guy. And who's that next guy that could that 345 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: could be here for the next twenty years. 346 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: I don't know this. 347 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: I haven't talked Couch talking about it, but but I 348 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: think he might say, like, it's time for a fresh 349 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: start when you've been in one place in the NFL 350 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: for that long, like even the greatest of like you know, 351 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: you talk about the Belichicks and the Gibbs and the 352 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: Seafferts and the Reed Andy Reid, any red switch and 353 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: when you know, like and now do you think he 354 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: for one minute regrets it or or anybody? I mean, well, 355 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: that's now that EGS have won since he's left. Yeah, 356 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: he's one as best for port And so again I'm 357 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: not trying to like be nasty or this another. 358 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: I just think that it might be even coach might 359 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: say it's time for a change. 360 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: And again, if that's college, I don't know if it's 361 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: pro again. 362 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: Again, it's gotta be with his blessing. You can't fire him. 363 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: It's gotta be with Tomlin's blessing, and give him a statue. 364 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: There's one guy that has a statue. One guy, not 365 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: that guy's son who actually ran the team, Not the 366 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: guy who built the steel curtain on the field, and 367 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: mean Joe Green, not the coach who won the first 368 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: four Super Bowls, not the coach before. 369 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin Ben, not even you, right, you don't have 370 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: a statue. You're the best quarterback? Are you reading franchise history? 371 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: The other one with four rings on his finger doesn't 372 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: have this. Not a statue, Franco, no statue, not even 373 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: all but not outside the stadium, not in bronze him. 374 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: He has a statue that's actually coming back. We don't 375 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: know about the dinosaur. Is the dinosaur coming back? 376 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,119 Speaker 1: This dinosaur has to come back. Where is the dinosaur? 377 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Is the dinstaur? 378 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: You were somewhere raising money, wasn't it, Franco, wasn't raising money? 379 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 6: The dinosaur had tons of dollar bills and coins, always 380 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 6: at the base of its feet. 381 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: There you go, Actually, not to say that out loud. 382 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 3: Was there something that you could donate money to for 383 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: Franco when he was. 384 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean maybe a box, but I was as exciting 385 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: as this giant. 386 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: But he was always leaning over to pick it up. 387 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: He was taking the ball away, he was taking all 388 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 3: the money away. They are too far, Ben, all right, like, 389 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: way too far there with your take. You did enough 390 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: with the Penn State one. You moved to the needle enough. 391 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 6: You don't need to go even further into the void 392 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 6: and say Tomlin needs a statue. There's so many steelers 393 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 6: that deserve a statue more than Mike Tomlin, so many. 394 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 6: And I don't even think that's an insult to Mike Tomlin. 395 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: When we come back. Oh, it wasn't just Ben talking. 396 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 3: It was the father of a current steeler ripping another 397 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: current steeler. 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We will be 413 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: together at Park Social twenty five to twenty five Brownsville 414 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 3: Road in South Park. 415 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: I still allowed to do that show after two weeks off? Yeah, 416 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: what's up with you? Huh? 417 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 6: You finally decided to come back tonight? Do came basketball? 418 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 6: That you off the hook? 419 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: No called the game last night? 420 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 6: So I saw a heartbreaker for the Dukes, a comeback, 421 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 6: huge comeback, Yeah, and then a heartbreaker at the end. 422 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: It did great too, So I had fun at the peat. 423 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Did you go last night? Yeah? 424 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: I did? 425 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: Was the final score? They ended up losing by like 426 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: eight or nine? No, it might have been less than. 427 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 6: That two at halftime, right Padalina one point in the 428 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 6: second half. 429 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Ten they did, they did. Imagine that you're there for 430 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: the big buzzer beater against Ohio State. 431 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: I was there for that. That was That was my 432 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 6: good moment of pit basketball this year. Imagine that the 433 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 6: tim a Pittsburgh team holding a second half lead and 434 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: then blowing it immediately, just peeing down their legs. 435 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: I have so many We always do this thing with 436 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 3: Matt Williams, who's always a guest here on the Mark 437 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: Badden Show. I have so many non Matt Matt stats 438 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: because Matt always has his stat pack, and I make 439 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: Matt mad by finding stats that I think rival is. 440 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Can I give you some of them? Please? 441 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Do? 442 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 6: I love these stats? These are probably gonna bury the Steelers. 443 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 3: Last five games the Steelers are We're oh of thirteen 444 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: on passes over twenty yards. 445 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: I said that yesterday on the show. Oh you have 446 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: that one? 447 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 6: I had a trifecta of just some awful stats, and 448 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 6: that was one of them. I haven't completed a downfield 449 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 6: pass in thirty six days to him? 450 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: Do you know what? Mike Tomlins never had a losing season. 451 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: That can't be right. I think you're aware of that stat, right. However, 452 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 3: how long is the season tom seventeen games? What's Mike 453 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: Tomlins record over the last seventeen games? 454 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Is he? 455 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 6: I say this one six? I didn't say this that yesterday, 456 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 6: but I saw that. 457 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a real one that I actually find very interesting. 458 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: One No. 459 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: One is the number of rushing games over one hundred 460 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: yards for Lamar Jackson since the start of last season. 461 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Since the start of last season. 462 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 6: Now, that is interesting because we all know he's playing 463 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 6: hurt right now and that's why he's not running as much. 464 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 3: He had one hundred yards against the Chiefs. He hasn't 465 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: one hundred yard day running since then. He's eighty one 466 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: against the Steelers. 467 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: He was effective as hell as around our last. 468 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: I felt like he was running with more of a 469 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: purpose last year. And I'll give you one more zero 470 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 3: for one. That would be match Son from half court 471 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: at the University of Kentucky. Oh my god, I did 472 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: see that. Did you see him that close? 473 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: Though? It was really close? Sailed ten k? Yes, come on, 474 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Williamson Junior. 475 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: So that's not just ten k that matt Son would 476 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: have had at the University of Kentucky. 477 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: That's ten k that MATC doesn't. 478 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 3: Have to pay to the University of kentuckuition, right, and 479 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 3: that would have been beers for us at Park Social. 480 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: That didn't happen, all right, So we had big news. 481 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 8: Huh. 482 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: I have once that for you too. 483 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 6: It's not everybody's seen it, but the Mike Tomlin has 484 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 6: now gone sixty two straight games with seven or fewer 485 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 6: points in the first quarter. If you include the playoff games, 486 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 6: that's sixty four. That's so hard to believe. Like put 487 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 6: that on his gravestone. You think you'd get ten accidentally, 488 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 6: you'd think you'd get nine just off the grace of 489 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 6: Boswell trotting out there and kicking a few field goals. 490 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like you you might get a long 491 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: kick return and then get a field goal in a 492 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: three and out, then have a real drive. Or you 493 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: might score a touchdown and then TJ can it's a 494 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: strip sack and you get a field goal in advantageous 495 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: field position. 496 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 6: But no, no, I like how Warren Sharp has added 497 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 6: the longest streak by any head coach before they were 498 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 6: fired in NFL history. It's just the longest streak by 499 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: any head coach in NFL history, but the longest fired. 500 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 3: Yeah with Tom on at this point. But I understand 501 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: we're breaking news. You told me about Adam Schefter is now. 502 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. 503 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 3: I forgot about my own breaking news. He's streaming us 504 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: right now. He has said, you know what, those guys 505 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, they're onto something. I've got to add fuel 506 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: to the Roethlisberger Penn State fire. 507 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes ago. 508 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: Another Trip employee speaking something into existence, Tom. 509 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? 510 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 6: Fifteen minutes ago from the big dog himself, Adam Schefter, 511 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 6: Roethlisberger suggested on his Football and with Ben Roethlisberger podcast 512 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 6: that Mike Tomlin is a good fit for the vacant 513 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 6: Penn State job. Gasoline meet the fire there is now 514 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 6: blasted out to how many people to follow, Schefter, It's 515 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 6: got to be close to it's eleven point three million people. 516 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: This is now news. 517 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: I bet you this pops up on the ESPN homepage, 518 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: you know that little running tap of headlines. 519 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: I bet you. 520 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 6: Roethlisbergers suggests Tomlin fit at Penn State. You got asked him. 521 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 6: I mean, everything is leading to you. 522 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Tomlin is going to be like Ai 523 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 3: superimposed into Beaver Stadium at the white out. 524 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 6: It's already on ESPN's Headlight's the second headline on the page. 525 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 6: Amid Tomlin angst big Ben floats Penn State job. 526 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, the Power of Trip's suggestion again. Thank you 527 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: Seth Wrobo for putting it into the ether. All right, 528 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: we got distracted. Should we come back because we're low 529 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: on time. Let's come back with us? So we gotta 530 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: let the Asante Samuel ripping dk Metcalf thing breathe. We 531 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: didn't start the fire. Screw you, Billy Joel. We did 532 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: start the fire. 533 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: Tomorrow night, the Pens face the Lightning. Game time is seven. 534 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 5: Our coverage starts at six here every game, and the 535 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 5: best coverage right here on your home of the Pens. 536 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: X is this season. 537 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: When you're in the mood for holiday music, listen live 538 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 3: with the iHeartRadio Act and on Pittsbury's. 539 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Number one Christmas music station, not even four point five 540 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: three WS. 541 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 8: You can create a winning image for your team and 542 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 8: keep your employees safe and productive with Universe, every Universe uniform. 543 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 5: Jack. 544 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 3: Tom In the last five minutes, has anybody else from 545 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: our paper spoken anything in New existence. 546 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 6: Now, nothing's happened. You haven't won that lottery. What were 547 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 6: some of the other cool things he said at the 548 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 6: beginning of the show, Brooklyn. 549 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 3: Decker sliding into my Dmshow she's like she's had a 550 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: second Brooklyn Decker, Yeah, like a second coming, right. 551 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think she's on a show now, 552 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: you know. 553 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 6: I think her husband, Andy Roddick, is in that movie 554 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 6: about pickleball that they're making with Ben Stiller. 555 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think he's in it. 556 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 6: As as a feature that she should be in it. Yes, 557 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 6: she has to be, just even in the back on 558 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 6: cheering him on Super Nice. He met Brooklyn? 559 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I met her at the Super Bowl between the 560 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: Giants and the Patriots, the second time the Giants beat 561 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 3: him in Indy. 562 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I met her on Super Bowl Media Day. I bet 563 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: she was pretty nice. Yeah, those were the days, all right. 564 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: So I don't want to get further along because we've 565 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: teased this twice now and it's time to get there. 566 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 3: Here is Asante Samuel's dad, new stealer Asante Samuel. 567 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: Dad has a podcast. I don't know who. 568 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: Dad does the podcast with some other guy kind of 569 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: like Spence and but not like Spence, but some other guy. 570 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: He does this podcast with Sante's dad here, former NFL cornerback, 571 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: blaming Aaron Rodgers for how things. 572 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Have gone wrong in Pittsburgh. 573 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 8: I think it's about time for Aaron Rodgers old self 574 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 8: to to go ahead and hoping someone's boot and start 575 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 8: his broadcasting career. When I say old though, I mean 576 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 8: old football year. Time for old man quick is to 577 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 8: give it up. Are you used to seeing stats like 578 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 8: this from Aaron Rodgers ten for twenty one, one hundred 579 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 8: and seventeen yards pass in total, no touchdowns, And then 580 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 8: we can't even put a DK Metcalf up here because 581 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 8: he's an impact. 582 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where it gets good. By the way, 583 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers and broadcasting, Oh that'd be bad. 584 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 6: He's hosting Jeopardy. I thought I thought that was always 585 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 6: the parachute or did he miss that? They just got 586 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 6: to think Jennings because with Rogers we don't need Ken Jennings. 587 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 6: He would just debate all the facts that are up there. 588 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 6: This is wrong. This eight hundred point answer is wrong. 589 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: I do not reward you the points. 590 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: This is where Sante goes after Dk. You're starting to 591 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: go down that path, and once he went down that path, 592 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: he did not stop. 593 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 8: He is most of the problem. Yet the end of 594 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 8: the day, Aaron Rodgers needs someone to throw too. 595 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 2: He used to have an. 596 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 8: Elite sy was decade suddenly get open. Like I said before, 597 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 8: DK Metcalf just can't from that for Aaron Rodgs. Aaron 598 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 8: and DK Metcalf is the reason Aaron Rodgers is looking 599 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 8: so because he keeps trying to throw DK metcalfter football 600 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 8: and he is not even getting an ounce of separation, 601 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 8: especially when he's going against press copy. 602 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: And as much as. 603 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 8: Daron Rodgers still wants to win, man, it just doesn't 604 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 8: have the talent that receiver to make things happen. I 605 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 8: know it has to be very frustrating for Aaron Rodgers 606 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 8: dealing with a trying to get the football the DK. 607 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Metcalf he does now Adam feeling. 608 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 6: The answer solves the problems of all the offense. Hey, 609 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 6: happy forty second birthday, Aaron. Here's a thirty five year 610 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 6: old wide receiver for you. Meanwhile, and VS is like, 611 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 6: what what because Steeling's on the roster right Like, I 612 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 6: don't think this is a practice squad mcgun. I think 613 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 6: he's gonna play on Sunday Baltimore unless he's inactive. 614 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: So do you think he's right on that, because don't 615 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: some of the advanced analytics kind of tell a different 616 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: story about DK that he actually is getting open more 617 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 3: than our eyes are telling us. 618 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 6: I think DK Metcalf is to blame for his shortcomings, 619 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: for sure, But I also think that it's ignorant to 620 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 6: ignore the fact that there's literally nothing else in the 621 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 6: Steelers passing game that could take even an ounce of 622 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 6: attention away from him. And Matt Williamson said it a 623 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 6: thousand times probably on our Wednesday show. If you ever 624 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 6: show up to the Wednesday show on this show when 625 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 6: he's talked to you, like, DK's not this like true, 626 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 6: true number one wide receiver where you can double, triple, 627 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 6: quadruple and he's still gonna get eight catches for one 628 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 6: hundred yards. He's on that tier below that. So if 629 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 6: you have nothing else that worries teams, then like what 630 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 6: can you expect DK to. 631 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: It's also pretty easy to cover DK Metcalf or any 632 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: other wide receiver when you know that they're not going 633 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: to run into the middle of the field. 634 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 6: That's true, Like the sideline is the secondary defender, and 635 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 6: they're as an offense going towards it willingly, You're like, 636 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 6: thank you. Usually I have to bump you out there 637 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 6: to run up down the sidelines. 638 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: You just want to do that. 639 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: Here's a little bit more from Samuel on why he 640 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: thinks DK stinks biggest. 641 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 8: D Matcalf is big and strong as he is. It's 642 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 8: like the basketball players. I don't know how many of 643 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 8: you all play basketball, right you're playing middle school ball 644 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 8: or high school ball. You have, but there's always that 645 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 8: one six foot nine guard, six foot nine to four 646 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 8: that wants to come play guard with the six foot 647 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 8: two players. And that's the problem with DK Matcalf, big 648 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 8: and strong as he is, he tries to play fall 649 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 8: for next football, for next football, at the line of scrimmage, 650 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 8: thinking his bast twitch muscles can shake DB's at the 651 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, when. 652 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: He should be playing physical. 653 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 8: As possible, like Michael Irvan, like the physical receivers to 654 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 8: get off the line of scrimmags. 655 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: He should be. 656 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 8: Making contact and throwing man handling DB's. 657 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 2: Left and right. 658 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 8: But instead he thinks he has the agility and the 659 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 8: quickness to get open suddenly, and he doesn't that's the 660 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 8: problem with and they Aaron Rodgers continue to try to 661 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 8: look for him. He just makes everything look terrible and 662 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 8: oh man played and outdated and everything goes No. 663 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 3: I think Arthur Smith has something to do with that too. 664 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: But a couple of things there to what he just said. 665 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 3: First of all, where did a Sante Samuel senior grow up? 666 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: That they got six foot nine kids in middle school 667 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: basketball and they're trying to play guard and they're trying 668 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: to be the point guard. See now there, he does 669 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: have a point because that guy. Everybody has played basketball 670 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: with that guy. He's right about that. Where you're playing 671 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: pick up basketball and it's short guys like you and 672 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: me who are picking teams and something. Some big guy 673 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: walks in the court, like I got that guy first, 674 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 3: and all he does is stand outside and shoot threes 675 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: and miss him. I could do that and you could 676 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: get the rebounds and we can stay on the court 677 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 3: all day. Let me miss the threes and you can 678 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: rebound him and put it back. No, the big guy 679 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: always has to stand outside and shoot. 680 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: The three used to drive me crazy. Why not just 681 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: pick up anymore? Buddy? 682 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 6: I mean, watch a call basketball game, Watch an NBA game. 683 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 6: I mean the bigs are outside the perimeter plays. They 684 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 6: want to shoot the threes. He's so right about that comparison. 685 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 6: When it comes to DK though, that should be the 686 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 6: number one combat catching wide receiver in the NFL. And 687 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: it said he's good, so soft at it, I mean 688 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 6: soft as hell at it. It's easy for defensive backs 689 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 6: to get him off of his game. When it comes 690 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 6: to the combat catch. 691 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: You can't. 692 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 6: You can't trust him, And honestly, I think Rogers knows 693 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 6: that because he kind of throws to the other receivers 694 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 6: and the tight ends more for those combat catches than 695 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 6: he does DK and Rudolph. It was a terrible pass 696 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 6: when he overthrew Mount Washington or when he that was 697 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 6: a bad pass two yes, yes, but I'm bad passes 698 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 6: skipped it to DK the Bears. One is what I 699 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 6: was thinking of when na Sean Wright made the great interception. 700 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 6: Dam was like falling backwards out of bounds. Just tackle right, 701 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: do anything, get a flag, it doesn't matter, do something. 702 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 6: So he's so spot on a Sante Samuel as far 703 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: as that's concerned. In that comparison, he just plays so small. 704 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: All right, we come back. 705 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 3: We got to try on the way that at the 706 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: top of the hour, we'll get back into Steelers conversation, 707 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: specifically Mike Tomlin conversation. We love that to open up 708 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 3: the three o'clock hour. Mike to course in the three 709 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 3: o'clock hour as well. This is one of five nine 710 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: the X Listen to the X. 711 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: Everywhere you go, No anywhere, everywhere. 712 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: Tell your sport device. Ale'sa play one oh five point 713 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: ninety X on. 714 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio from the Dollar Energy Fund Weather Center. This report 715 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: is sponsored by Flynn's Tire and Auto Service. 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Tim and for Mark today, Tom, 722 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: what is the trifector for today? 723 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 6: For today's Trifecta, Tim, We're gonna go with Pittsburgher's who 724 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 6: are more deserving of a statue than Mike Tomlin Since 725 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 6: Ben Roethlisberger declared that we should build one for Mike 726 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 6: t to kind of I guess was that Ben's way 727 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 6: of saying, we'll ease the blow of. 728 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: Moving on from him, like kind of like, hey. 729 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 3: We'll give you this statue if you just get the 730 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 3: hell out of here and go to Happy Valley. I 731 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 3: think there's a little something to that. Yes, bribing with statues. 732 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,719 Speaker 1: I love it. 733 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 6: Number three on my list of a Pittsburgh that deserves 734 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: a statue more. I'm gonna go with saxophone guy and 735 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 6: you gotta put that statue, you know, right there on 736 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 6: one of his perches on the Clemeny Bridge. 737 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: It'd be perfect. Number two, I'm gonna go with Sid. 738 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 6: And then number one, I'm gonna go with the guy 739 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 6: at P and C Park, the usher who beat that 740 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 6: fan with his belt this year. That would be the 741 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 6: coolest statue ever, don't you think like if you could 742 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 6: get like the belt kind of mid like whack whack, 743 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 6: that'd be awesome. 744 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: Well, let's compare Sid the merits of Sid to those 745 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: other two fine representatives that you just advanced. 746 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: Sid has been known. 747 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: To whack a flyer in the calf from time to time, 748 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 3: slash and get away with it, And he taught Blake 749 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: Lozat that too. 750 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Did you see what he did? Yes? 751 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: I did see that. To Hathaway, that was beautiful, real 752 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: good move. That was Sid inspired. I'm sure still not 753 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: the guy with the belt, though, I think I'm with 754 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 3: you on this one. And Saxophone Guy, sure there was 755 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 3: a place, There was a time, although I think there's 756 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: somebody threatening Saxophone. 757 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: Guy's place in the Pittsburgh lexicon. Are you aware of this? 758 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: Like freestyle rapper who's at all the games and all 759 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: the venues? 760 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Now, No, I'm not. 761 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 6: This is like a modern twist on saxophone guys sort of. 762 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 763 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 3: I mean like I was unaware of him, and apparently 764 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 3: I was late to the party. Other people know who 765 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 3: he is, know about him. He's got his own YouTube channel. 766 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: I just, for the life of me, don't know his name. 767 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 3: But I was crutching along after I had my surgery 768 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: for one of the early Penguin games, and I was 769 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 3: going down to the media entrance from where we parked, 770 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: and he was rapping on the corner, like, you know, 771 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 3: a stone's throwaway from Saxophone Guy, and he sees me 772 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: crutching towards him, and he breaks his freestyle with you know, 773 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 3: stays in rhythm and somehow makes up a rhyme about 774 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: me crutching by him. 775 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: I was incredibly impressed. And then I saw him. 776 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: Again a few weeks later as I was leaving and 777 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 3: I wasn't on crutches anymore by this point. As I 778 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: was leaving a Steeler game, he was rapping at somebody 779 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 3: else and just immediately put them into a rhyme without 780 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: missing a beat. This guy's got skills. Man, I'm impressed. 781 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 6: And you're telling me that he was setting up shop 782 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 6: like right down the street from Saxophone Guy's turf Like, 783 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 6: this is a turf war happening right now. 784 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: It could be now, I could see them combining forces. 785 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 6: Well, I will say this about Saxophone Guy, even though 786 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 6: I gave him a statue here on my trifecta Saxophone 787 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 6: Guy can be bought to a disgusting degree. Case in point, 788 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 6: you throw some nickels in there, you say, play the 789 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 6: Notre Dame fight song, Play you know, country Roads, West 790 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 6: Virginia Town. He'll indulge that, And I think it's a 791 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 6: little disgusting, to be honest with you. 792 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: The country roads thing. 793 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 3: Have you noticed how crazy the fans go for country 794 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 3: roads in every European venue that the NFL plays, the 795 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: Germans especially well, I sure did too. 796 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: Did you hear him? It is a good song, right 797 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: to be fair? Is it that good? 798 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 8: Though? 799 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: Whenever I've been in Europe, which is not a lot, 800 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: but I've been to England, I've been to Ireland, and 801 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: I've been to Italy. Wagonwheel and freaking country roads any bar, anytime. 802 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 3: And it's not just the Americans, and it's not just 803 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 3: for the Americans. 804 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: They love it over there. It's nuts. I don't get it. 805 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Are they making fun of us? 806 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: Is it like a sly way to make fun of us? 807 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 3: Like? 808 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 6: Look at how stupid these songs are? It might be 809 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 6: these great Americana songs. 810 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of country roads, how about the kid who 811 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: flipped his commitment. 812 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 6: A siege for Cherry Yes, going to West Virginia, Rich Rod. 813 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 6: I mean they had to pay him a lot, right, do. 814 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 3: You feel like you've been turned upon because you were 815 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 3: supposed to turn away from Penn State and turn to 816 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 3: pitt Wasn't that the belief? 817 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 6: I thought he was going to turn away from Penn 818 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 6: State and go right to Blacksburg, Virginia, well, I thought 819 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 6: a little bit surprised that he's at West Virginia. My 820 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 6: focus right now is a pittfan. Tam is keeping Mason 821 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 6: and keeping Turner. The backfield needs to stay intact. And 822 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 6: that's kind of like, don't you think that this day 823 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 6: has lost all its time? 824 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 8: Oh? 825 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, the high school recruit they 826 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 3: walked me right into it, cares about this day. 827 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: I love that no one cares about it. 828 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 3: I hated National Letter of Intent Day, I hated National 829 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: Signing Day, despised it. 830 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like I still I don't. 831 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 3: Have to talk to Ice about this when Seis comes on, 832 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: because I think Seiss was out there with me for 833 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 3: the Terrell Prior Day, Oh my god, the Terrell Prior 834 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 3: Day that turned into a Terrell Prior week and Anthony 835 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 3: Morelli over out at Penhills. 836 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: Like, I just hated covering those signing days. 837 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 3: And the thing about it now is it just doesn't 838 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: matter because they flipped their commitments. 839 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: They arrive on campus and they're gone in a year. 840 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: Especially quarterbacks. 841 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 3: You know, quarterbacks are the big fish that always land 842 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: and if they don't start out of the gate, then 843 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 3: they transfer or they announced their plans to transfer eight 844 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 3: games into the season. It doesn't matter anymore. I love 845 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: that what college football has become has watered down National 846 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: letter of intent day. If there is a residue that 847 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 3: I like about what has become of college football, it's this. 848 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it just doesn't matter anymore because like 849 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 6: these kids, you know, yeah, you want to get good 850 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 6: high school recruits, but it's about keeping your team intact 851 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 6: once you have them, and you want to find talent 852 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 6: in the portal more than you want to find high 853 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 6: school kaus, Cause, say four star, five star recruits from 854 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 6: high school, Yeah, they'll probably be pretty good players, But 855 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 6: I'm sure these coaches are much more interested in the 856 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 6: proven commodities that you know, they've seen play at a 857 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 6: college level already for a season or two and know, hey, 858 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 6: they can handle this. Maybe they deserve a step up 859 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 6: from a group of five to a power four real quick. 860 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: Have you ever feat conspiracy theory floated by Todd McShay 861 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: about why Penn State doesn't have a coach yet, No, 862 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 3: because this Jimmy Sexton thing. 863 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: No, because Jimmy Sexton is sort. 864 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 3: Of like the power broker agent for college coaches, all right, 865 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 3: He's got like every coach under his thumb, and Franklin's 866 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 3: one of his guys, and he is deliberately getting expensive 867 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 3: contracts for coaches to stay in their current positions so 868 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: they don't go to Penn State because he's mad at 869 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 3: Penn State. That's the theory that's being advanced, which if 870 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: it's true, I love I love a good petty Jimmy 871 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 3: Sexton two turning his sites towards Penn State. I mean, 872 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: it's hard for me to say this and not sound 873 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 3: like such a biased douche to be honest with you, 874 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 3: because I hate Penn State and I'm a Pit fan. 875 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: But they completely nuked that program, right Tim. 876 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 3: I mean, like, I know it's really in the immediacy 877 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 3: of it, and sure, I guess they can turn it around, 878 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 3: but like they're not going to reach the heights that 879 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 3: Franklin had them at, and they were pretty good heights. 880 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: They were in the semi finals last year. 881 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 3: What if it is pitt versus Penn State in the 882 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 3: pin Strape Bowl, would Penn State go? 883 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 6: That's a good question. Most of that roster is going 884 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 6: to hit the portal and probably go to Virginia Tech. 885 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 6: Wouldn't you imagine. 886 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 3: Potentially, like, how about finally getting Pitt and Penn State 887 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 3: in a bowl game? And it could mean absolute crap. 888 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 6: As long as Mason and there, that's all we need. 889 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 6: We can just play with those two on the field. 890 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 6: I think we'd beat them. 891 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: In thirty seconds. 892 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: One very important person did not hear the chance of fire, Tomlin. 893 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: We'll get into that next. For the three o'clock hour, 894 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 3: Tim Benzon for Mark Madden one of five, nine the X. 895 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 3: It's the