1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: It's time for our weekly conversation with Bill Krueger, brought 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: to you by the brand new Occidental Hall next to Lumanfield. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: On Occidental, Seattle's newest hot spot for sports fans, with 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: massive HD screams and a menu backed with Seattle's best 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: smash burger wems and the best local craft beers in town. 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Now with Bill Krueger, here's Saftian. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Did Yeah. 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 3: They call this guy the Albert Einstein of the major leagues. 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: He is as smart as they come. Nobody knows the 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: game the way Bill Krueger does, and that's why the 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: Occidental Hall steps up to pay him and meet his 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: gigantic financial demands every single week on the radio show, 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: because they know what a genius this man. It really is, 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: our friend Bill Kruger joining us right now talking some baseball. 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: How are you, Billy? 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: Wow, I'm good. I'm good, Einsteinian. That's that's right, that's 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: a high bar. 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: I'm just reading the notes that you texted me before 19 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 3: the show, all right, So I just want to make 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: sure that we're just good. 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: Getting all this clear. 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: But lots going on here, man, I mean we haven't 23 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: talked obviously in a week, but Mariners announced today George 24 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Kirby game one, Luis Castillo game two. I think a 25 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 3: lot of people were assuming Logan Gilbert in game one, 26 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: but your thoughts on that decision by Dan Wilson and 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 3: Jerry Depoto and Justin Hollider. 28 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 4: Today, I think they must be paying close attention to 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: matchup numbers. I'm not looking at him. I think I 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 4: heard you guys talking about Kirby's numbers in Detroit. I mean, 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 4: I think when you're when you're trying to figure out here, 32 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 4: here's what it comes down to. Brian Wu's their number 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 4: one pitcher. 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: He's not. 35 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: We don't know when he's gonna pitch, So then it 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 4: becomes a bake off with three guys that is tough 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 4: to split hairs on. Right, They've all had great stretches, 38 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: they're all elite pitchers. They all probably have unique circumstances 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: against certain teams. You know, for me, if you're asking 40 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: me what I think, it's Logan Gilbert. Yeah, that's what 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm thinking. But then I was thinking Brian Woo in 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: game two. But that's not obviously where they're headed. They 43 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 4: want to see how he's recovered from whatever he threw. 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: He threw yesterday. They want to see how he feels 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: because they're trying to stretch him out as long as 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: they can so before they make a commitment to him pitching. 47 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 4: And obviously they feel there's enough risk of him not 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 4: being some one hundred percent sure he's going to be fine, 49 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: so they want to push it out a little bit further. 50 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: And that makes sense. I get it. And you have 51 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 4: depth of pitching, and all these guys can really really pitch. 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: I mean, Castillo has had a great run the last month. 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 4: He's pitched very well. He's made a couple of adjustments. 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: Kirby has been outstanding over hit the last three or 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: four turns as well. But for me, Gilbert's your best 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: pitcher outside of Brian Wu. So if it were me, 57 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 4: I'd be going Gilbert. But I mean, I think it's 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: tough when you have a bake off, right, and you 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: don't want to make others feel like you're making a 60 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: personal decision that isn't based on something. So I don't 61 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: know what that's based on, So I don't have the answer. 62 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Castillo has shown struggles against left hand hitters. 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: That's been his m as we've watched him pitch over 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: the last couple of years, and he's made some adjustments. 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: But what kind of team is Detroit. Well, they've kind 66 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: of got a mixed bag, right, They've got some pretty 67 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: good right hand hitters, They've got some pretty good left 68 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,279 Speaker 4: hand hitters. They've got a balance, they strike. 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Out a lot. 70 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that there's a perfect perfect match 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: for any of our pitchers because they are a little 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: bit lefty and righty. Green Roddy Green's got big numbers 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 4: and he is left handed, but then they got turkles 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: and they got bias. They've got client hits left handed, 75 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: they got you know, you know, we can go back 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: and forth throughout their lineup. They have a mix, a 77 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: mix of hitters. So that's the choice to Dan made. 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure it's well based on what they figure is 79 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: the best matchup against the Tigers, with the idea that 80 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 4: they're pitching at home and trying to play pitchers that 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: are pitching their best baseball. 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 5: Right now, Bill, how convinced do you need to be 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 5: that Brian wu will be available at some point in 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 5: order to put him on the roster? 85 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: I mean sixty. 86 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 5: Percent, you got to be ninety percent, And if you 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: do put him on the roster, would you consider bringing 88 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 5: him out of the bullpen or is he just a 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 5: guy that you think is going to start like a 90 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: Game four. 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 4: I think they're just holding them off later and they're 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 4: trying to buy as much time with this injury. And 93 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: when I talk to you guys before, it made it 94 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: sound like, hey, it's great, you know they have the 95 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: extra time. Now, who's going to be fine, He'll be 96 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: able to start in the in this series. Well, here 97 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 4: we are at this series and it's unknown when he's 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: going to pitch, right, yeah, because he got hurt. He 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: got hurt in a in a game going full speed, 100 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: and that's what they don't know. They need to know 101 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: that he's truly ready to pitch, and when you're you're 102 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: not having Hey, look, he's the best pitcher they got. 103 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 4: Let's there's no question. He's had the best year. He's 104 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: the most unhittable pitcher. It hurts that he's not starting 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 4: this series. But they have other guys that can pitch. 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: So you want to head your bet with guys that 107 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 4: are pretty turnt good, even though they're not having the 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 4: year that Brian wu is having. So I think they've 109 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: got the depth of pitching to not to try to 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 4: take as much chance off the table as possible and 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: give Wu as much time as possible to pitch, feeling 112 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 4: that they can still win without Brian Wu, even though 113 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: once you know, we get further along with this thing, 114 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: you've got to have Brian Wu if you expect to 115 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: be the best form of the Mariners that you can be. 116 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Bill, Bill Krueger with us courtesy of the 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: oxygenal hall here across from Loomenfield and Bill just going 118 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: back to Woo for a second. 119 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: He's got the peck injury, right, Guys. 120 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know if you've ever pitched, if you 121 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 3: ever pitched for the peck injury in your career. I've 122 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: done a radio show with a peck injury and I 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: was fine. I don't know what Brian's problem is, by 124 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: the way, but I was okay. But tell me, tell 125 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: me about does he need to be one hundred percent 126 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: to pitch where the peck injury? Can he be ninety percent? 127 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: Can he be eighty percent? I mean, some guys, you 128 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 3: know elbow, you know finger, whatever you can, you can 129 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: find a way to get through it. But does that 130 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: peck need to be one hundred percent right for him 131 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: to be out there in your mind. 132 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, this is an injury. That's that that it's 133 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 4: unique because of the style of pitcher. He is right, 134 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 4: he's in his arm drops low, he gets forward pressed 135 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: with his elbow. He's different. He's throwing in a lower 136 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: slot and and it's and this is the reason we 137 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: want to stand tall and stand and use the stronger 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 4: muscles in the back of our arm. There's a reason. Okay, 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 4: he's not doing that. He's throwing against the physics a 140 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 4: little bit. And he's in great shape and he's a 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: very strong kid. This injury is because of the slotty throwstrum. 142 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: He's got a low slot. His elbow is low. And 143 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: you can just sort of picture what I'm saying. When 144 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: you've got your elbow below your shoulder line and you're 145 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 4: kind of leading your elbow a little bit, and that's 146 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 4: exposing the pack a little bit. He's shoving the pack 147 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: to his shoulder. Is his chest forward as he throws, 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: and you know, the pack injury could start to lead 149 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: into the biceps tendon that goes into the front of 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: the shoulder. So he has to really construct, he has 151 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: to say, super super strong behind the back of the shoulder. 152 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 4: It's got to be super strong because he's he's fighting 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: physics a little bit, but it's such an advantage. This 154 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 4: is the natural way he throws. He's very deceptive and 155 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: it's worked for him brilliantly. But we know he's got 156 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: a checkered career health wise, so they need to error 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: on the side of caution with him, particularly when you 158 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: have three other starters that are pretty tarn good, that 159 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 4: have been elite, that have been All Star caliber guys, 160 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: and that are all pitching in their minds right now. 161 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: Curby and Castillo pitching at the top of their game, 162 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: and maybe they feel being Castile benefit the most from 163 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 4: pitching at home. I think when you start splitting hairs 164 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: too much, careful, careful what you when you split hairs, 165 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 4: because you know, you always want to think about who 166 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: are my best guys for me? As I stand away 167 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: from this, the two best pitchers on the team from 168 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: a starting standpoint are Logan Gilbert and Brian wu. They're 169 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: the toughest guys to hit, and you've got a whole 170 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 4: compliment of guys you've got full rest. They're also the 171 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: guys that handle left handers and right handers. Balanced A 172 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: balanced lineup the best. So if it were me, those 173 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: are the two guys I'd be pitching. But it's not 174 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: as if this is this is a catastrophe because George 175 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: Kirby is an outstanding pitcher, and so with Louis Castillo 176 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: and Luis Castile plus has a pretty good track record 177 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 4: of pitching in the playoffs and pitching well you know, 178 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 4: it's not his first rodeo. So yeah, I think that 179 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: they're you know, they're making the best decision they possibly can. 180 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: But getting back to your question, Yes, he needs to 181 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: be right. He can't be sort of right. He's got 182 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: to be right, all right. 183 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: Good, Well you mentioned the experience for steal. 184 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 5: I mean, they've got nine guys that played in twenty 185 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 5: twenty two in their playoff serieses and then they've added 186 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 5: six players that have double digit games of playoff experience. 187 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 5: So how much does that matter? And how much does 188 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: it did it matter for the manager? You've got a J. 189 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 5: Hinch with a with a lot of experience. You got 190 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: Dan Wilson with none. 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. I think Dan Wilson has played in 192 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: pressure situations his whole life. He's got a much deeper 193 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 4: record as a player in dealing with pressure situations. I 194 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 4: don't think Dan is going to have a problem handling 195 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: the pressure okay, and he's got a whole season now 196 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: of managing where the game has now slowed down for him. 197 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 4: Aj Hinch is a very impressive guy that's been through 198 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: it okay, and he's got a real clear idea of 199 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: what to do with this team. But so does Dan Wilson. 200 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 4: So I don't know that there's big advantage aj Hintch 201 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: or anything like that. I don't see that at all. 202 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 4: I think players that have been there before there's just 203 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: a little less anxiety for them because they've been under 204 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 4: pressure of playoff baseball. So yeah, the fact that we've 205 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: added a few guys like that, I think it's good, 206 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 4: particularly as you get into a series, particularly if the 207 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: Mariners come out. Let's just say, and we're to lose 208 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 4: a game in the first two, or we're to go 209 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: through a stretch where they don't hit for a game 210 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 4: or two. That's where experience matters. Guys that understand that 211 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: each game, you know that you got to keep your head, 212 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: you got to stay within yourself, you've got to be confident, 213 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 4: and plus it bleeds around to players that haven't been 214 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: there before, so they don't feel the inordinate pressure of 215 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: the situation. The Mariners have kind of been there, so 216 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: this is a good group. Their younger players have become 217 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 4: a little bit more season because they were there in 218 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: twenty two. And then you're added Floraz, and you're adding 219 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: a Rose Arena, and you're adding Naylor and these guys 220 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: and Political for that matter, they've been around the block. 221 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: There's a whole group of guys. Nobody has to feel 222 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: like they're. 223 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: Carrying the load. Julio or cal Or. 224 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: And these guys. That's why this group should be fine. 225 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 4: They just need as far as how they operate offensively, 226 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: they just need a little more patience at the plate 227 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: and get guys on base so that when they do slug, 228 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: they can score multiple runs. Right right, And when I 229 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 4: look at this team from a pitching standpoint, we're a 230 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: right handed, power pitching team. So we're gonna knock down 231 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: all their rioties. The rioties are dumb. They're done. It's 232 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 4: a matter of how we handle the Riddy Greens and 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: the mckinch streets and the and the Carpenters and those guys. 234 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: It's how we handle those guys. Really, If those guys 235 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 4: don't hit, we win. 236 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 237 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I guess that's the question. Bill Bill Kruger 238 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: again with us to see the occidental hall. Who does 239 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: this series set up well for from an offensive perspective? 240 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: We know there's a couple of guys for the Tigers 241 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: we can talk about, I mean, Carry Carpenter obviously against 242 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: George Kirby and Collaboratorrees. 243 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 2: But let's talk about the Mariners. 244 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: With the So what you know about the Tigers pitching staff, 245 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: both rotation wise, bullpen wise. Who does this series set 246 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: up well for from a Mariner offensive perspective? 247 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the Mariners have really kind of 248 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: stuck it to him the last time they played, and 249 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: they put up some pretty crooked, ugly numbers on them. 250 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 4: And know that Waves in their head school has been 251 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 4: handled by our team. Maz got hit around by our team, 252 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: their bullpen got hit around by our team. That's fresh, okay, 253 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: And plus they've had some struggles down the stretch. So 254 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: a lot of that, I think, and the fact that 255 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: we stacked the deck a little bit more since then 256 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 4: with uh with Naylor and Suarez, and all, each one 257 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 4: of the guys in the first six causes you to pause, 258 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 4: and you've got to have a plan because you can 259 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: get the wrong side of the count. These guys can 260 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 4: all hit a whole run off yet, So I think 261 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: that's that's advantage Mariners for sure. I think as far 262 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: as our our are hitting facing their pitching, the fact 263 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: that we've hit schoobl twice is pretty good because he's 264 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: a high v low guy and we've struggled with high velocity. 265 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 4: That's the part where we struggle. When guys can can 266 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: get to the top shelf with big fastball, that that's 267 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: a that's a problem for our team. We're we're pretty 268 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 4: good at hitting the rest of the pitches. We actually 269 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: hit the breaking ball on the off speed stuff pretty good. 270 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: In fact, Scooble, we've beat him because he's leaned on 271 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: his change up. I mean, Rodriguez hit the big hole 272 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 4: run to beat him on a change up. He threw 273 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: him three or four straight change ups and he finally 274 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: got one that was a high, high middle ind he 275 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: had a home run off it. You know, good, keep 276 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: throwing it to him, you know, That's what I would say. 277 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: Uh So, I mean I think I think the fact 278 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: that Schooble's pushed back, he's not leading the series off. 279 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: They have to go with Johnny Hoolestaff the first game. 280 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 4: I think all that is advantaged Mariners. 281 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: All that and stop. 282 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 4: Bowl has to and I don't know whether he has 283 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: enough rest to come back around to Game five, but 284 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: the Mariners may have him in the bag by then. 285 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: So this series really stacks well. They start at home, 286 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 4: the marriage are playing well. The Tigers had had to 287 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: pitch everybody, you know. I think it's it's in a 288 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: very good position. The only thing that is worrisome is 289 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,479 Speaker 4: the fact that your number one pitcher is not in 290 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: the mix right now. We don't know. 291 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: One potential drawback at a bye, which is a new 292 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 5: phenomenon now in baseball, is you know you've got a 293 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: week off, how do you mitigate the rust? Especially for 294 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 5: those hitters. 295 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: Well, they do the best they can. This this is 296 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: a group that's got got some experience. I mean, I 297 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: think they've been there before. You've got a lot of 298 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: season's hitters, You've got a team. You know, in the past, 299 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: the Marriagers have had one or two guys and if 300 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: they don't hit then see you later. Right now, you've 301 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: got six guys they can all hit the ball of 302 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 4: the ballpark, and we got a little bit more depth 303 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: at the bottom of the order with some guys that 304 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: can get on base and some wildcards in there that 305 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 4: can have big moments. I think Roblaze is it's a wildcard, right, 306 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: can Zone it's a wildcard. Crawford's been a steady eddy guy. 307 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: They can kind of set the table. And then they 308 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: got six guys in there they can stick a dagger 309 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 4: in you. So I think that's the part that you know. 310 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 4: And then on the other side of it, you got 311 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: Crawford off his feet a little bit, you got rolling 312 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: off his feet a little bit. The bullpen that had 313 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: been pitching fourties a night quite a bit this year 314 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: got some rest. So I think that's all good. It 315 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: outweighs the negative in my opinion. 316 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: Bill Krueger, great stuff, man, appreciate it. Cannot wait for tomorrow, 317 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 3: cannot wait for Sunday. I mean, look, man, this is 318 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: honestly why we have you on, right, you know, for 319 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: moments like this. We've had you on over some pretty 320 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: lean years and lean times where you just get kind 321 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: of exhausted, right complaining and bitching and owning about the 322 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: same over and over. 323 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: The third key, what's the third key? 324 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: Well, the third key is how are we going to 325 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: lose tonight? And how many times do we have to 326 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: kind of eat those worsts for years now? We're playing 327 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: with the force of a very good team and can 328 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: be really positive and confident. 329 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: Right yep, Yes, this is why we do this, man 330 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: for right here, So let's do it for about another 331 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 3: five weeks. 332 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: How's that sound? 333 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: That sounds really really good. It's going to be a 334 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: fun ride for sure. 335 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: Bill, you're the man, great stuff, and we'll talk next week. 336 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: All right, all right, sounds good, guys, All right. 337 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: Bill Krueger, we'll get a break. 338 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: Come back on more from Jimmy's as we watch Mark 339 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: just pound a chicken sandwich and some onion rings. 340 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: Russ a very. 341 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: Impressive site, no doubt about it. I love how clean 342 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: he is. I have not seen one drop of food 343 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 3: hit the floor the entire time. Very impressive performance by him. 344 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: Olympian worthy. By the way, John Stanton was with us 345 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 3: earlier in the show, Mariner Chairman. If you missed it, 346 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: we'll give you some highlights coming up as well. On 347 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: ninety three three KJRFM. 348 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: Out back to football Fridays, once your fights, handmade vodka 349 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: on your home for the NFL Sports Radio ninety. 350 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: Three point three. 351 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:16,719 Speaker 3: FL. All right, we are back here on a Friday 352 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: afternoon from Jimmy's on First, where again we thought game 353 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: one was today. 354 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 2: We got here early, It's like what and nobody's in 355 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: the bar. We were like, what's going on? 356 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 3: We're just gonna go camp out outside the left field 357 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 3: gate and just get ready for tomorrow. I can honestly 358 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: say I've never camped out for a sporting event. 359 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: I might do it tonight and just stay here for tomorrow. 360 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: Man, But we got husky duties up at Tom's Watch 361 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: Bar eight thirty doors, twelve thirty kickoff, and then I 362 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: might jump on a line bike and just scoot right. 363 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Down here for first pitch tomorrow around five o'clock. 364 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: But joining us on the radio program, the CEO of 365 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: the Seattle Mariners, John Stanton, is with us here from 366 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: Jimmy's on First. 367 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: How are you doing doing great? 368 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 6: What a wonderful time in the city. And obviously I'm 369 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 6: excited about all the things going on with the Mariners. 370 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: But it's husky football season, and it's cracking getting going. Obviously, 371 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 6: the Seahawks are doing their thing. It's a great time 372 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 6: to be a sports fan. 373 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 3: Well, we'd like to remind you a conversation we had 374 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: about a year and a half ago. You might forget this, Adam, 375 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: I know will remember it from your PR staff that 376 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 3: you came on our show and you said, Okay, next 377 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: time we make the playoffs game one, you and get 378 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: Diamond club seats. 379 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: So thank you very much for that. Oh yeah, yeah, 380 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: we're looking toward that. John, This is very nice, very 381 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: generous of you'd offer that. 382 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 6: All I remember that conversation is you giving me advice 383 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 6: on what free agency is. 384 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think, well, actually, you know, you signed 385 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: none of them. 386 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, you didn't get any of them, 387 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: but you made some moves of the deadline, which we'll 388 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: talk about in a second. 389 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: So let's just backtrack for a second. 390 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: So here we are in the playoffs, first time since 391 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 3: twenty two, second time since two thousand and one, and 392 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: we feel like we got a shot to maybe do 393 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: something that's never been done in this city. 394 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: What is this. 395 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 6: Moment like for you? 396 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: And we were kind of half joking off the air 397 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: that you've got an opportunity here to really kind of 398 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: influence your legacy in Seattle right as the CEO of 399 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: this team. And also you're kind of responsible and directly 400 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: it's kind of a heavy burden for people's mental states 401 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: and the next maybe week and have So what does 402 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: this entire moment mean for you? 403 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 5: Man? 404 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 6: I have to confess, I don't think I have a legacy. 405 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 6: I don't especially care about my legacy. I'm all about 406 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 6: winning for the fans. And you know, these players are hungry, 407 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 6: they're excited, they're frankly in many cases, at the peak 408 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 6: of their their playing ability, and and I think it's 409 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 6: a it's a time for us to bring it all together. 410 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: We've got eleven players that have been All Stars in 411 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 6: the last three years, you know we I think that's 412 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 6: more than any other team in baseball. We have a 413 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 6: group of guys that believe in each other, the culture 414 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 6: that Dan's created in the clubhouse, and along with Manny 415 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 6: and Bone and and and Woody and you know, the 416 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 6: whole gang are due one just such a great job 417 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 6: of supporting the players. I mean, the legacy, if there 418 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 6: is one, is for the team, the players to see 419 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 6: you know cal Ralely, Julio Rodriguez, the starting pitchers, Mooney. 420 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 6: You know, all those guys achieved their dream since they 421 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 6: were playing Little League, of winning a World Series, and 422 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 6: that's what we're here to do. 423 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: I saw you down there on the field after you 424 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 5: guys won the division title, and you were shaking hands 425 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 5: and you were hugging, and and I was wondering. I 426 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 5: was like, what's the emotion going through John right now? 427 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean it was a. 428 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 6: Relief, was it? 429 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: Elation? 430 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 5: Was a little bit of vindication. I mean what was 431 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 5: going through your mind and your heart at that time? 432 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 6: Well, I got a chance to thank a lot of 433 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 6: people that you know. As much as they're twenty six 434 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 6: guys who played between the lines, there are probably a 435 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 6: thousand people that were working that night, and I get 436 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 6: a chance to thank those folks as well as the 437 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 6: folks that you know work here every day and in 438 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 6: accounting and HR and all. We had a celebration out 439 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 6: in the pen. We were going back and forth, got 440 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 6: a lot of steps that day. We were in the 441 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 6: clubhouse on the field taking a photo. Uh, then out 442 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 6: in the pen, celebrating with the with the employees, with 443 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 6: the front office staff, and then the cool thing was 444 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 6: a bunch of the players came out. You know, wo 445 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 6: I think is the one who said, what's going on 446 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 6: out in the pen and and I said, well, that's 447 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 6: where the employees are, and he said, I want to 448 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 6: go out there. I'm sure that drove some people nuts, 449 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 6: but you know the meaning security and all that. But 450 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: a bunch of the players went out and partied with 451 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 6: the staff because you know, they they live it every 452 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 6: single day, you know, and when we lose a game, 453 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 6: you know, they get a hard time from their friends 454 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 6: and their family. And when we win a game, they celebrate, 455 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 6: and you know it's we're We have a wall up 456 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 6: on the fifth floor up in the offices that says 457 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 6: at the top one Mariners, imprinted language with the logo 458 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 6: and then signatures. You know, I've signed it. All the 459 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 6: owners have signed it, most of the players have signed it, 460 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 6: and everyone in the front office has signed it. 461 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: Yea. 462 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 6: And we're trying to be live up to that motto 463 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 6: of one Mariners and be one organization that succeeds. 464 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 3: So we've been doing this for a long time. I 465 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 3: think they can combine like sixty years in this business, right, 466 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 3: and I think it's important to Obviously, there's room for criticism, 467 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: and then there's room for compliments and praise. 468 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: And right now is. 469 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: The time where there's a lot of good stuff going on, 470 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 3: and you and the ball club deserve some compliments and praise, 471 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: there's no doubt. But when that criticism comes, and you 472 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: mentioned that, sometimes the guys and the gals that work 473 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: for you hear that and they feel that. How much 474 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: do you feel that? How much do you live with it? 475 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 3: And how much does it bother you and drive you? 476 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 6: Well, let's start with I'm old, right, you know, I 477 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: not that all. I've run a bunch of public companies. 478 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 6: I've started a bunch of businesses, some of which worked 479 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 6: and some of which didn't. And you know, I've gotten 480 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 6: criticized in what I do and maybe I've just you know, 481 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 6: got thicker skin now than I used to. But when 482 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 6: someone gives one of our young people a hard time 483 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 6: for something they had nothing to do with, that really 484 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 6: pisses me off. And y, you know, that's the only 485 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 6: thing that bothers me. And when you know, I know 486 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 6: how hard those players are working. I know if somebody 487 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 6: strikes out three or four times, you know it's it's 488 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 6: not because they wanted to right it, you know it 489 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 6: it's a it's a dynamic. I think that, you know, 490 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 6: this sport requires patience. You got us one hundred and 491 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 6: sixty two games in the regular season. You know, you've 492 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 6: got a month of playoffs, You've got you know, you 493 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 6: know that's after six weeks of spring training. I mean, 494 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 6: it's a long season, you know. I joke with my 495 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 6: friends at the Seahawks, and when we get to the 496 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 6: second week of September, we've got the equivalent of one 497 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 6: of their seasons left, right, we got another eighteen games, 498 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 6: And I think that that, you know, you have to 499 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 6: have patients. 500 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 4: You have to have. 501 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 6: Patients with the criticism too. You know, the fact that 502 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: we you know, got swept by someone, you know, in 503 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 6: the middle of the season. It may have had to 504 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 6: do with the pitching matchups. That may have had to 505 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 6: do with a flu bug going through the clubhouse. It 506 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 6: may just had to do with a sequence of uh, 507 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 6: you know, players not not having their best games. But 508 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 6: you know, when we conversely, when we sweep a series, 509 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: you know, the way we swept Detroit, Uh, you know, 510 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 6: it's an exciting time. You know, we had some amazing times. 511 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 6: I was with the team in Boston, New York and 512 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 6: Williamsport in Atlanta, god of three different trips during the season, 513 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 6: and I saw, you know, a resilience and and a 514 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 6: commitment that they all had U you know, and a 515 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: and a great attitude about you know, what they're trying 516 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 6: to accomplish. I mean, if you remember the Atlanta series 517 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 6: came right after the UH the Tampa series that they 518 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 6: they got swept in Tampa, they came back and that 519 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 6: Saturday game they came back and won, scored a bunch 520 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 6: of runs on the Saturday and the Sunday games and 521 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 6: and left that road trip. You know that was still 522 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 6: three and six. I think UH with a with a 523 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 6: lot of enthusiasm and a lot of energy and came 524 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 6: back and I think they swept the home stand after that. 525 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 6: So you know, it's it's it's an up and down game. 526 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 5: You use the word dynamic there, and this team has 527 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 5: got that dynamic and a lot of talented baseball teams don't. 528 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 5: Why do you think this one does, and where did 529 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: it come from? Were whom did it come from? I 530 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 5: think it's been grown over time. I mean I look 531 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 5: at the UH the players you know that that have 532 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 5: been with us. You know, I think JP has got 533 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 5: the the longest and you're now, you know, I think 534 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: they've built it over time. I look at those pictures 535 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 5: and you know, in addition to the time that that 536 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 5: Logan and George and Emerson have have spent and WU 537 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: have spent in the major leagues, they spent time together 538 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 5: in the minor leagues. I think that the you know, 539 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 5: I've heard you guys talk about it, the relationship that 540 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 5: that cal built with those guys moving from single A 541 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 5: to long A to double A, triple A and then 542 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 5: eventually making it here. And you think that that dynamic 543 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 5: a lot of those guys have been together almost ten 544 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 5: years now, and you know that I think creates a 545 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 5: camaraderie and you know it's you know, frankly, it's like 546 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 5: the two of you, right, I mean you finish each 547 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 5: other's sentences in much the same way. 548 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: Well you mentioned sometimes rudely, Yeah, exactly how much how 549 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: much of this show do you hear? I mean I 550 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: gotta ask you how much of that how much talk? 551 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 6: Ready? 552 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 2: You do you listen to? You ever flip on kJ 553 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: A R When you're sitting in the ark. 554 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 6: I do flip on kg R some. I have to 555 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 6: confess I probably listen to music more than I listen. 556 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 6: I have the ability to download and listen to the 557 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 6: things that are particularly interesting, Okay, and I do that some. 558 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 6: And you know I even listened to your competitor. 559 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: Wow, there you go. 560 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: Well, I mean because we got passion, right, I mean, 561 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: this is something that we want very badly. And I've 562 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: mentioned on the year John Stanton with us Marin or 563 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: chairman by the way from Jimmy's I've mentioned many times 564 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: that you know, and you use the more patients there, right, 565 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 3: I think people Mariner fans have been just about his 566 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: patient as a fan base in sports, waiting for a 567 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: world series. And there's people that have come and gone. 568 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 3: You know, Dick's dads in his nineties. My dad passed 569 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: away a couple of years ago. You know, he's not 570 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: going to get that chance. But there's people out there 571 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: that deserve that opportunity. How much do you feel like 572 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: you need to deliver. 573 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 2: That for them? 574 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 6: Oh? I absolutely. I think about a couple of three 575 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 6: people when I think about the history, and my mom 576 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 6: was passionate fan. My dad died, you know, fifty years 577 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 6: ago now, and my mom was a widow for a 578 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 6: long time. She listened to it or watched every game, 579 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 6: and she was passionate, and she she'd have questions after 580 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 6: every game. She was she wasn't a particularly knowledgeable fan, 581 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 6: but she she had opinions nonetheless like us right, and 582 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 6: then in two political you know icons in this community 583 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 6: that that I had the good fortune to know for 584 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 6: for four or five decades, Slave Gorton and Dan Evans. 585 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 6: I was with Dan at the last Apple Cup. Sadly, 586 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 6: the last Apple Cup he saw was a year ago, 587 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 6: and he passed a few days after that. Dan used 588 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 6: to say to me, now, you got to promise me 589 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 6: we're going to win a World Series. And I said, absolutely, Dan, 590 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 6: I can't tell you when, but we're going to win 591 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 6: a World Series. And unfortunately he won't be there for that, 592 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 6: at least not in person. I think I'll be looking 593 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 6: down on us and Slagh Gorton every time I walk 594 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 6: into the lobby and see the display we've got with 595 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 6: the shovel from the first shovel of dirt for for 596 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 6: this ballpark, and you know the photos from from his 597 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 6: growing up period, and you know, he was an enormous 598 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 6: fan any saved baseball in Seattle three different times. That 599 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 6: we wouldn't have that stadium, We wouldn't have this team, 600 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: you know, if we had not, if it had not 601 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 6: been for a number of people, and and slights on 602 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: on the Mount rushmore of that list. But folks like 603 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 6: Gary Locke and and Slade and excuse me, Dan and 604 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 6: and other political leaders you know, stepped up at a time. 605 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 6: You know, it's it's hard to appreciate that the political 606 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 6: leaders came together, you know, to make this happen. Wes Holman, 607 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 6: you know, and you know they wanted a team. They 608 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 6: wanted the team to stay here. They didn't want it 609 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 6: to move to Tampa. And nineteen ninety, you know, all 610 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 6: of those folks came together, and most of them sadly 611 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: are gone. And but yeah, I guess I'm not particularly religious, 612 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 6: but I'm religious enough to think that they're probably looking 613 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 6: down on us and smiling. 614 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 5: Mariners Chairman John Stanton joining us. And you know, Softie 615 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 5: and I were at Believe it or Not, the U 616 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 5: District QFC when we got word that Dan Wilson was 617 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 5: going to be the manager of the Seattle Mariners, and 618 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: we thought, oh, that makes sense. Well, we just assumed 619 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: it was going to be an interim situation, right like 620 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 5: a trial basis, and then we found out a little 621 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 5: bit later that afternoon, this isn't an interim thing. 622 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 6: He's the guy. 623 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: Why was he made the guy right away? 624 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 5: And how much of that was a John stant decision 625 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 5: and how much was a Jerry Depoter decision. 626 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 6: It was a Jerry to Poto decision. But Jerry and 627 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 6: I talked about it long and hard, and I supported it. 628 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 6: And my office across the street is bookended by Kevin 629 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 6: Martinez on one side and Jerry Depoto on the other side, 630 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 6: and I'm talking to the three of the three of 631 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 6: us are talking along with Trevor and Justin every day 632 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: and so. But ultimately it was Jerry's decision, and I 633 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 6: know it was an incredibly hard decision for him to make. 634 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: You know, he and Scott were very close, and Scott, 635 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 6: you know, did some tremendous things for this organization. But ultimately, 636 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 6: the question I asked Jerry is do you believe we 637 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 6: can win a World Series with Scott as the leader? 638 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: And he said no, and he believed that, and he 639 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 6: still believes he believes today that we can with Dann 640 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 6: And that's you know, you got to be guided by something. 641 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 6: We have a mission at the Mariners. We talk about 642 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 6: all the time when our mission is to win championships, 643 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 6: create unforgettable experiences for our fans, and serve our communities. 644 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 6: And you know, the things that go on the field 645 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 6: on the field, you know, are primarily related to championships, 646 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 6: but they also create unforgettable experiences. How many how many 647 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: kids have posters of how of Cal hitting the break 648 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 6: the street home run in twenty two? How many think 649 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 6: about Julio And you know we're number forty four when 650 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 6: they're going out, when they're going to bed, or they're 651 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 6: going out to play in the in the yard. And 652 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 6: I think that, you know, serving the communities is also 653 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 6: very important to us. It's something that I was taught 654 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 6: by my parents and my predecessors, you know, John Ellis 655 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 6: and Howard Lincoln all committed, as our entire ownership is, 656 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 6: you know, to doing things to try to make this 657 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: a better community. And I think, you know, right now 658 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 6: you can say the best thing we can do for 659 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 6: the community is to win that World Series. So there's 660 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 6: a virtual circle there, but you know we've done you know, 661 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 6: our home base program is designed to eliminate reduce homelessness 662 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 6: by eliminating evictions. Our Hometown nine program where we help 663 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 6: kids that can't afford to play travel baseball and travel softball. 664 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 6: We make it possible for them and we have mentors 665 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: for them that you know, make a difference in their lines. 666 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, John stant as well as Mariner chairman from 667 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: the Jimmy's on first. And first of all, I love 668 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: the fact that you hear this radio show. That's awesome. 669 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: And then number two, if you've heard this show, then 670 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: you've probably heard me say on many many occasions, I 671 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: think the Mariners weren't in the World Series would be 672 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 3: the greatest sporting accomplishment this town has ever seen. You've 673 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: you've heard me say that maybe a couple of times 674 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: over the years, and I'm I mean that it'd be 675 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 3: bigger than the Super Bowl, bigger than anything that this 676 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: team town has ever done. And to me, I get tired, 677 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: as I know I think you do, of being on 678 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: a list that says never when it comes to the 679 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 3: World Series you So let me ask you real quick, 680 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: because Dick asked about this ball club, So why why 681 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: why do you think. 682 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: That is that we haven't gotten there yet. 683 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 3: Why do you think this time feels different for this franchise. 684 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 6: I want to I want to address the predicate first. Yeah, 685 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 6: you know the it's a deep, dark secret. But you 686 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 6: and I know we grew up in the same neighborhood. 687 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 6: I know we did, right, I know, you know, maybe 688 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 6: twenty years apart, but neighborhood hasn't changed that much. And 689 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 6: we played pickup ball and little league on Woodridge Elementary's 690 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 6: right fields and all that. And anyone who's been here, 691 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 6: you know, spent their life here, you know, particularly a 692 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 6: baseball fan. You know you don't remember I do the 693 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 6: departure of the Pilots in sixty nine or its actually 694 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 6: in March of seventy. You know, this community deserves a championship. 695 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 6: I also remember June first, nineteen seventy nine, you know, 696 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 6: the championship that the Sonics won after losing in seventy eight. 697 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 6: You know, those are those are memories that are are 698 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 6: so vivid for me. You know, I can I can 699 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: practically tell you exactly what I was doing and drinking 700 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 6: at the same at that time. For us to win 701 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 6: a World Series I think culminates, you know, if you 702 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 6: include the pilots over sixty years of efforts to bring 703 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 6: a championship to this community in baseball, and baseball has 704 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 6: the ability to bring this community together in a way. 705 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 6: You know, it's an election year and you know, I'm 706 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 6: not going to get into politics, but you know, wouldn't 707 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 6: it be nice if everybody was holding hands at a 708 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,359 Speaker 6: parade celebrating Mariners winning the championship. 709 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, whether they're like to hold your hand? Would you 710 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 2: hold my hand? Everyone? If we win? Will you hold 711 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: my hand? 712 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 6: Woodridge Brothers, Yes, it may not last long exactly exactly, 713 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 6: we'll do the secret Woodridge handshake. But the dynamic for 714 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 6: this community is they deserve it. We deserve it. And 715 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 6: you know, everyone who's been here their whole lives, you know, 716 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 6: I think you know has that. And you know, the 717 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 6: great thing about this community is we've also brought you know, 718 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 6: huge numbers of people who moved into Seattle for to 719 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 6: go to work for Microsoft or Costco or Team Mobile 720 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 6: or Starbucks or Amazon. You know those folks, you know 721 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 6: have come here to this community and fall in love 722 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 6: with his team. You know, it's a fun time. I 723 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 6: can't go to Starbucks right now without someone saying go Mariners. 724 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 6: Guys said it. Guy I've never seen before said it 725 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 6: to me in the elevator today. You know, people are 726 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 6: excited and it it has the ability to have a 727 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 6: long lasting effect. 728 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 5: John, you had the fifteenth, twentieth, twenty third, twenty fifth, 729 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 5: and twenty eighth rank payroll make the playoffs this year, 730 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 5: so some could argue that. 731 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter that much. 732 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 5: But you also had six of the top eleven payrolls 733 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 5: make the playoffs this year, so some could argue that 734 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 5: it is that important. How tightly linked do you think 735 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 5: payroll is to making the playoffs. 736 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 6: And winning a championship? Well, you can't argue that it's 737 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 6: not correlated. You know, you're you're numbers suggest that. I 738 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 6: think that the key is to have a coherent strategy 739 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 6: and to be in a position where you can execute 740 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 6: on that strategy to succeed. And you know, more power 741 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 6: to the to the folks that sign the huge contracts. 742 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 6: But at least one of those teams didn't make the 743 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 6: playoffs at all. And you know, the the dynamic is that, 744 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 6: you know, payroll alone will not make a difference. You've had, 745 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 6: we've had plenty of evidence of that. We were willing 746 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 6: to step up. You know, the commitment we made at 747 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 6: the at the deadline, uh, to Geno and to to 748 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 6: nailor Uh. I think what and Ferguson, you know, was 749 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 6: an important statement by our ownership group that we believe 750 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 6: that this is the right time. You know, people want 751 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 6: us to win every year, and and we want to 752 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 6: win every year. But there's some years where you see 753 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 6: the opportunity and you can see the the path. Uh, 754 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,479 Speaker 6: and I see the path. I know, Jerry and Justin 755 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 6: see the path. And this is a year where we 756 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 6: believe we can make a difference. And so we made it. 757 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 6: We made a commitment. You know. Uh. It's like it's 758 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 6: like anyone's purchase of any goods, you know, kind of 759 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 6: the ouch factor. You know, it was it was a 760 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 6: it was an expensive commitment on our part, but it's 761 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 6: a commitment that we think will result in, yeah, taking 762 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 6: this team all the way. 763 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: Well you mentioned Itarez and Naylor. You think those guys 764 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: are back next year. 765 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 6: I think we'll look at those kinds of issues after 766 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 6: the season's over. And you know, it's ultimately on Justin 767 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 6: and Jerry to to make those decisions. I would say 768 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 6: not not in juxtaposition to your question. We have some 769 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 6: unbelievable talent. You know, I don't know if you saw, 770 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 6: you know, the the irony of Colt Emerson out there 771 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 6: at second base yesterday, at the scrimmage, at the scrimmage 772 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 6: and each hero in the outfield, you know, the you 773 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 6: know whatever that is thirty two years apart in age. 774 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 6: I think that we've got, you know, I look at 775 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 6: Las Montes, who was our best hitter in the minors 776 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 6: this year. I think, you know, the the addition we 777 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 6: made with Anderson at the in the I mean, I 778 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 6: think we got the best player in the draft. I mean, 779 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 6: how in the world did we end up with a 780 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 6: number three pick? You know, I was there when it 781 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 6: happened and still can't believe it. And then you know, 782 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 6: the teams that had the number one and two pick 783 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 6: pass on what I think everyone believed was the best 784 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 6: player in the draft. I mean, the the opportunity for 785 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 6: us to actually have a tremendous left handed starter, you know, 786 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 6: for his his career, you know, I think is you know, 787 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 6: is phenomenal. And he comes out of LSU, where he's 788 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 6: got a comes from a winning tradition. I think the 789 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 6: future is very bright for us. 790 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: Well, let's start by getting a win tomorrow. How was 791 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: that game one? 792 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 3: I love to hold your handring a parade. By the 793 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: way it's making it happen. Thanks for coming over.