1 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep woods 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the 3 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors, 4 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations. 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host, 7 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand. 8 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: See Good morning, Fan Outdoors, faithful. Yes, good morning to you. 9 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: It's dark. 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it could get more dark, 11 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: but this is a cabin cast, one of the final 12 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: ones of this season, and my executive producers smiling broadly 13 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: right now, but I am not. But it's okay. The 14 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: chuckling in the background, yeah, that is my co host, 15 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: mister Bob Saint Pierre. 16 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, Good morning. So you've got closing up 17 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 4: the cabin on your brain. Huh, Well I do. 18 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: I got here yesterday because I was in the Cities 19 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: for some family things and I got here. It was 20 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: forty degrees in here and just a bit nippily. It 21 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: was nippy, to say the very least. But we've got 22 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: the temperature corral that about seventy one degrees and it's 23 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: forty eight forty six outside right now. 24 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have insulation in the cabin, I guess you have. 25 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 4: You don't have it in the walls, do you? 26 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: In the newer part of this old cabin there was 27 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 2: insulation at one time. It was blown in when my 28 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 2: aunt built it, and it seems to now all be 29 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: in the eaves. 30 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: Okay, it's moved. 31 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: And I've thought, I've thought a lot about putting bad 32 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: insulation up there, but it sounds like a lot of work. 33 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 3: So that's essentially a three season. 34 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh, very definitely, Yeah, very definitely, because the water pipes 35 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: are not that far underground. Although the septic is okay, 36 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: but I've got a couple issues with that and I'm 37 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: dealing with it. But yeah, the septic is good. That's 38 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: been there for quite a while too, But the water 39 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: pipes are that's a concern if I would try to 40 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: stay here, because I'd have to do something to keep 41 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: them from freezing. Yeah. 42 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: I just I think about how much you love that place, 43 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: and it'd probably be a pretty significant investment to get 44 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: it winterized. 45 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: I think, so, I mean underneath the floor here is dirt. 46 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: It's honest to goodness. I'm not sure exactly how old 47 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: it is, but the fireplace is fieldstone, and from the 48 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: all accounts that I can deduct, it's about one hundred 49 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: years old on the small part. And a gentleman lived 50 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: here twelve months a year, and he liked to drink wine. 51 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: And when I'll never forget when my aunt bought it, 52 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: there's a trapdoor that I have to go in twice 53 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: a year, and I just really dread it, but I've 54 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: got to shut a valve off underneath there. I'm crawling. 55 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: But when she bought it, underneath that trap door, it 56 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: must have had well, it was filled with gallon bottles, 57 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: and I kept one in there for a long time, 58 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: just as something that I could talk about. But I 59 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: have since gotten rid of that when the mice invaded 60 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 2: the place and they filled it with acorns. So that's 61 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: long gone too. 62 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: When you say it was filled, are we talking a 63 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 4: dozens or one hundreds? 64 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: Hundreds hundreds? 65 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: So it drink a finish off the wine and just 66 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: open the trap door and drop the bottle in the basement. 67 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, But here's the interesting thing. He, like I said, 68 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: he was here all year long. But there is an 69 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: artesian well which runs, you know, twenty four to seven 70 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: all year long, and it has for years and years 71 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: and years. Well, he had the water that now runs 72 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: basically he just trickles into the lake, but he had 73 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: it running from a pipe from the well the overflow 74 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: underground through an ice box in this little small basement, 75 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: which if a tornado came, I think I just soon 76 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: get blown away. Then I have to spend a lot 77 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: of time down there because it's real tiny and it's 78 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: dirt open on one end. So he had the pipe 79 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: running underground through an ice box out the other side, 80 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: the north side of the cabin, and then threw a 81 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: stone pond and into the lake. Well that kept his 82 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: food from freezing in the winter, and it kept things 83 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: cold in the summertime because the water. As a kid, 84 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: we used to see how long we could hold our 85 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: hands in the water and to see who would win. Well, 86 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: I never won Lands good Lands. It cold here easily. 87 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: What decades there are we talking about this guy living here? 88 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: When did you're on by the well? 89 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: She owned it for six sixty years, I believe, and 90 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: I have owned it for almost twenty. Okay, so it's 91 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: it's quite a while ago. 92 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, like the forties is when the other guy would 93 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: have been in there, right, it. 94 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: Could have been could have been maybe maybe it was 95 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: doing it during Prohibition too, I don't know. 96 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe there was some bootleg in a line going 97 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: on in your head. 98 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: There could have been Center Cabin. 99 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: There is. There's a history out here too, which is 100 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: kind of fascinating because there is if you go out 101 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: by the road, you can see the old wagon trail 102 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: that would go to Diamond Point on the lake and 103 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: that's where some of the first settlers were. But then 104 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: there's a rock and Sock Center that marks the corner 105 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: of one stockade that they built and during the the 106 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: Sioux Uprising that protected settlers and out in one of 107 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: the favorite places you like to start your dogs out 108 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: in that country. 109 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm picking up what you're putting down. 110 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: Yes, well, the story goes because my aunt Ivy did 111 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: the a history of Sock Center and that's in the 112 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: library in town. But you can so she said with 113 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: her research there's settlers out there at the beginning of 114 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: the Sioux Uprising. They said that no, they he was 115 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: okay out there and so, but they didn't hear from 116 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: him in town. And I've got all this documented and 117 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: some papers that she found at a library someplace. And 118 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: so local people went in a wagon horse drawn wagon 119 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: out that direction, pulled by horses, and it took them 120 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: a day to get out there. They were looking to 121 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: find him and bring him back. Well, what they found 122 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: out there was I believe a burned out building. Plus 123 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: they found his body in one place and this farmer's 124 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: head in another, and so that then they came back 125 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: to town and whatever. Yeah, there's quite a bit of history. 126 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sinclair Lewis is probably the most famous person from 127 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: Socks and a Day. 128 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: Your family have any connections there, Well, my aunt. 129 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: My mom's mother lived in the Saint Clair Lewis house 130 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: before it was a destination. 131 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: Huh. 132 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: So I've spent a lot of time in that house 133 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: as a kid and it was nothing special then. I mean, 134 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: but you know, small towns look for acclaim to fame too. 135 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: Well. 136 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 4: Speaking of a claim to fame, have you ever seen 137 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: a pig on a leash in Socks? 138 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: Yes? 139 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 140 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 4: On the opening Psident season, there was a ginormous hogs 141 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: walking down the steps to the Palmer House, which is 142 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: also a famous spot. 143 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 2: For that's be busy come Halloween. 144 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: Do you do you have any background as to why 145 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: there was a pig on a leash in socks Center? 146 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? No? 147 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: I was, and one of the one of the girls 148 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 5: with us, she wasn't amazed at all because they used 149 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: to have one when. 150 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: She was. 151 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 3: It's a sock center thing. You saw the pig. 152 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 6: Huh. 153 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 4: We're not too big into dogs around here. We just 154 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 4: like our pigs. I told the Great Pets, you know, 155 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pass. I'm gonna pass this one. 156 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: He was walking behind the person holding the lead, so 157 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: he was in no hurry to go anywhere. And I 158 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: kept thinking to myself as I drove through town, I 159 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: almost ran into somebody ahead of me too. I was 160 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: rubber necking pretty hard. But how did they get him 161 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: in the car? 162 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 4: Well, So I have one other pet pig connection, which 163 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: is I didn't have this on our bingo card this morning. 164 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 4: But Nick Hoffman, who we've had on the show multiple times, 165 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: former fiddle player of Kenny Chesney's band and has a 166 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: TV show and outdoor channel called Nick wild Ride Nick 167 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 4: in his home in Last none Less Face, Nashville. He 168 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: lives in Nashville nowadays. Originally from now then Minnesota, but 169 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: he lives in Nashville. He had a pet pig for 170 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 4: a long time. I had him on the podcast at 171 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: pheasant Fest I think two years ago, and I was 172 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: kind of, you know, joking around, like cause he's got 173 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: all these dogs and goats and all sorts of you 174 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 4: have a pig, and his pig had just passed, and 175 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: he's like that pig. I was closer to that pig 176 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: than any dog. I mean, he was. He was torn up. 177 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: He was I was asking sort of jokingly and he was. 178 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: He was coming to tears, like oh, I did not 179 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 4: know I was touching this chord. But apparently they are. 180 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: They have a tremendous amount of personality. I just don't 181 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: know how you keep a pet pig at a house. 182 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: It seems a little bit a little much. 183 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: I've got some smoke pork chops out in the. 184 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: Well. 185 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: I guess think that every time we have pork chops. 186 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: Now, in my previous job at the Saints, Saint Paul Saints, 187 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: you know, we have we had a pet pig mascot 188 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: with a saddle that would bring baseballs to the umpire 189 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: between innings in the saddle. 190 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 3: How did we get on this pig talk so much? 191 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: You started it? 192 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: I didn't, But we would get. 193 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: A certain person that would call every single morning after 194 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: a game and asked for proof that the pig was 195 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 4: still alive and that we had not roasted it that night. 196 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 3: Swear to God. 197 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So there's your pig story for the day, 198 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 4: or pig story. 199 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: You know how to call. You know how they call pigs. 200 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: Not me. 201 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: They I have no idea. Come on, really, I'm waiting 202 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 4: for you to demonstrate. 203 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: Okay, well we will. We have to go to break, 204 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: so we'll leave this as our is our final sun 205 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: before we go to break. 206 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 7: Because what I have heard for future drops, what I 207 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 7: have heard is that when they do call pigs, it'll 208 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 7: go sue, sue. 209 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: So there you go. 210 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: We're off to a blazing start this morning. 211 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: Well, right now, coming around the corner is a sock center, right, 212 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: and he will join us, and he's going to talk 213 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: to us a little bit about fishing, because there is 214 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: no shortage of boats. Ei, there's a boat across the lake. 215 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Yesterday when I arrived here, he was in one place 216 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: for five hours, going back and forth. Oh, they must 217 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: have been on something, but maybe he's trying to get 218 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: his motor started. I'm not sure, but we'll take that 219 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: pause and we'll be back right away with mister Denny Fletcher, 220 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: a Fletcher's Mate and Tackle. 221 00:13:53,960 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're back and outdoors October twenty fifth, coming your way. 222 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: In fact, this is appropriate because I see green lights 223 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: on the bow of a boat heading north right now, 224 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: and our guest is mister Denny Fletcher, the owner of 225 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: Fletcher's Bait and Tackle. Denny, some people are really really 226 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: dedicated because it's darker than dark and they're going up 227 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: the lake. 228 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: Buddy. 229 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, good morning, Bill. I was just amazed yesterday morning. 230 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 6: I open up the shop at six o'clock. I have 231 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 6: four rigs parked in the bait shop and it's twenty 232 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 6: two degrees outside, and I'm thinking, how can you guys 233 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 6: stand the cold out there this morning? But these guys 234 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 6: are really after these walleys out here, unbelievable. 235 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: Like I said, before we got we went to break 236 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: there was a boat right across the lake from me. 237 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: He was in the same place for about five hours, 238 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: and I don't if he moved. It wasn't further in 239 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: about twenty to thirty feet they got to be biting, Daddy. 240 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 6: The while I bite on Sock Lake this fall has 241 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 6: been incredible. That's the only word I can think of 242 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: that I mean this is this has been as good 243 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 6: as it gets folks. And granted, you go out there 244 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 6: on a good day and good outing, you catch anywhere 245 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 6: from fifteen to twenty five thirty walleys to keep maybe 246 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 6: you know, three four five fish if you want to 247 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 6: take some home for supper. But the bite itself has 248 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 6: been just superb. And it's not just socc Lake. Lake 249 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 6: Osakis is as good as it's been for the foreseeable, 250 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 6: as far as I can think of. And then we 251 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 6: got Lake Reno, Lake Mary. These walleys this this fall 252 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 6: have been really really good bite. 253 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 2: Why do you think that is, Denny? Is it because 254 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: the summer was kind of crazy as far as weather goes? 255 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 6: You know, I really don't know. 256 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 257 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 6: I've been harvesting wild wild, wild wild mintals out out 258 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 6: of a couple of creeks here because our rivers are 259 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 6: so flooded and this time of year, the the chubs 260 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 6: and the Silver River signers can become a really popular 261 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 6: walley made. So I've been working a couple of small 262 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 6: creeks south of here, and when the water temperature hits 263 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 6: a certain degree, and granted a lot of these small 264 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 6: creeks are fed by by spring water and or drain 265 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 6: tile water, which is really really cold. So these when 266 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 6: when when these creeks get to the point coolness wise 267 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 6: to these mentals, and these creeks will all get together 268 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: and they'll they'll go downstream to wherever they came from, 269 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 6: being a at a major river or a lake systems 270 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 6: such as Osakis or Suck. And that has happened alreadiness. 271 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 6: It's it's way early for that. So I think that 272 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 6: the water temperature, between the water temperature and and what 273 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 6: happened throughout the throughout the summer, with with the with 274 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: the temperature in the waters has has dictated what's going 275 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 6: on right now. That's the only thing I can think of. 276 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: What what percentage of anglers do you do you think 277 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 4: are still out there fishing right now? 278 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 3: I mean, is it ten percent or is it even 279 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: less than that? 280 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 6: Uh, it's probably less than ten percent. With the with 281 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 6: the exception of your dedicated Walley anglers, I'm seeing an 282 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 6: awful lot of my regular Walley type customers still going fishing. 283 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 6: So with the avid walleye fishermen, they know how good 284 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 6: fishing is this time yere, and there's a lot of 285 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 6: them still partaking. So I would say that just that 286 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 6: group of fishermen, it's probably you know, a quarter or 287 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 6: half of the regular walleye guys. 288 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: Well and Danny. Yesterday, right around it dark, I mean, 289 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: all of a sudden from the north came. It looked 290 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: like a tournament beginning in the morning because there was 291 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: just boat after boat after boat, and they were lined 292 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: up three to four across. I must have seen down 293 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty boats coming down. It's amazing to me. 294 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 6: We have had the busiest fall, and I'm talking like 295 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 6: the month of October specifically of mental sales in my 296 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 6: shop that I've maybe ever experienced. And these guys know 297 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 6: what they want and they all want the same thing. 298 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 6: They either want shiners and chubs, and the fish are biting, 299 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 6: and these guys are going fishing unless they're working for 300 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 6: a living, they're going fishing just about every day. And 301 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: a lot of them don't keep a lot of fish, 302 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: that just out there to enjoy the experience. So yeah, 303 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 6: it's been an awful lot of people fishing with a 304 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 6: furl awful lot of walleyes as well. It's been really 305 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 6: really nice to see. 306 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: All right. Now, I've got to go this way before 307 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: we run out of time too, because have you got 308 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: what do you do when you're getting ready for the 309 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: ice season coming up? How do you have all those 310 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: minnows for people in stock? Where do you keep them? 311 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: What do you do with them? 312 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 6: Okay, Sean and his two boys, Noah and Hunter, just 313 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 6: finish up our twelve sucker pond harvest and they put 314 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 6: all those mintals in my north farm with a big 315 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 6: pond that we have aeration, and that will be the 316 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 6: suckers for this winter and then next spring in summer. 317 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 6: They just started two days ago now on the golden 318 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 6: shiner harvest, and for us that's super important. And we 319 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 6: got about a dozen twelve thirteen golden shiner ponds to harvest. 320 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 6: Catch as many of them as we can out of 321 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 6: all of thems grow up ponds, and we'll put them 322 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 6: in two aerated man made ponds over on our east 323 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 6: farm with aeration. These are small ponds, one acre ponds 324 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 6: and you pour up to six seven eight hundred gallons 325 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 6: depending on how our harvest is in these two small ponds, 326 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 6: and to where in the wintertime when you need each 327 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 6: each week, when you need a bunch of mintals, you 328 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 6: just go out there and you harvest what you need 329 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 6: for that particular week. So it makes it pretty pretty 330 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 6: assured that you're going to have a good supply of 331 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 6: golden shiners through the wintertime. 332 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: Well, what about the brass season those danny aren't they 333 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: pretty popular in this winter time too? 334 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 6: Very I've got mother nature threw us a wrinkle this year, 335 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 6: which is not unusual in this business. If you farm, 336 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 6: mother nature kind of dictates what you do. And I've 337 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 6: got a humongous population of brassy shinings this year. But 338 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 6: because we had such a old spring and first half 339 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: of June with all the rain, we didn't get the 340 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 6: growth that we'd like. So even though I've got I've 341 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 6: got plenty, plenty of brassy shiners, they didn't get to 342 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 6: that three and a half to four inches we'd like. 343 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 6: They're more than that two and a half to three 344 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 6: in size. But having said that, in the wintertime, it 345 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 6: does not seem to matter. You put a small brassi 346 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 6: on one of them, fine wired glow in the dark. 347 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 6: Winter hooks and these walleys just they just smacked the 348 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 6: tar out of them. So we'll be in good shape 349 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 6: with Brassy's the fathead middles statewide. Also, we didn't get 350 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 6: the growth in our fatheads where we got those nice 351 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 6: twenty one grade fatheads. They are smaller, And I've talked 352 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 6: to several bait dealers that I know across the state, 353 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 6: and everybody's kind of in the same boat. Whereas generally speaking, 354 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 6: all the mindals in the state of Minnesota aren't going 355 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 6: to be smaller this fault than they generally are due 356 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 6: to the weather, and there's just nothing we can do 357 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 6: about that. 358 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: I can't remember who I talked to Denny, but somebody 359 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: said that they wanted they are crappie meadows, real tiny 360 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: crappy middals, because that's what the fish were biting. And 361 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there those are pin mindows. I'm 362 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: not sure what they are, but that's what he wanted. 363 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 6: Then we see that a lot in the wintertime bill, 364 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 6: especially for a crappie fishermen, they want a crappy middle 365 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 6: that's like three quarters of an inch or an inch long, 366 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 6: and we try to accommodate that whenever we can sometimes 367 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 6: we can, sometimes we can't. But in the fall, the 368 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 6: size of the middle is that people want get smaller. 369 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 6: With the exception of some of these avid walleye fishermen, 370 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: they want a really big shiner or a really big 371 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: jub up to five five and a half six inches. 372 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 6: You know, we have that for those guys also. So 373 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: I don't know why person to want to use a 374 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 6: middle that big, but enough of guys do that we 375 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 6: bring them in and we sold sell a fair amount 376 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 6: of those. 377 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: Interesting Now you were showing me a mineral that I 378 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: had never seen before, a racehorse something or whatever. 379 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, because our rivers here are so flooded from all 380 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 6: the rain this year, believe it or not, our river 381 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 6: here is still either up to or out of their banks. 382 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 6: I had to go south to a couple of small, 383 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 6: small creeks that that that go into some of the 384 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 6: major rivers. And because the because the Sock River and 385 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 6: the south branch of the of the of the Saint 386 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 6: Croix or the south branch of the crow Wing are 387 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 6: so flooded, these minerals went up these these smaller tributaries, 388 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 6: and I happened to find one that had a bunch 389 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 6: of them and I haven't. I haven't worked that river 390 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 6: for over twenty years, but it has a bunch of 391 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 6: racehorse jubs in it, and it's a it's the only 392 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 6: place I ever saw that chub. Talking to some fishermen, 393 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 6: they say, down in the Rochester area, there's there's quite 394 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 6: a few of those middles, but anyway that take particular chub. 395 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 6: They named them appropriate because they are the fastest mental 396 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 6: I've ever tried to catch in my life. And here 397 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 6: I found out that some people, quite a few of 398 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 6: my fishermen and friends have told me that they think 399 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 6: that that that's as good a wall I catch in 400 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 6: middle as the redtails and the creek jubs. So what 401 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 6: we got this year, it's because of that. I've got 402 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 6: a tank that's got both redtails, creek jubs and racehorse jobs. 403 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 6: And some people this is, you know, it's funny and 404 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 6: different places that middles are called different things, but that 405 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 6: particular middle has been called a racehorse jub. It's been 406 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 6: called a rock soucker, and so it's it's it has 407 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 6: different names, but it's really a good mental. That is 408 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 6: something that hardly any of my cust must have ever 409 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 6: seen before. And I don't see it very often myself. 410 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: I've got to agree with it. I hadn't never seen 411 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: one before you showed me, but they sure do goal. 412 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: I mean they jump and yeah, they I think those 413 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: are the something that you've got to screen over, don't you? 414 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: In the in the bait shop. 415 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 6: We don't, Yes, sir, If we don't keep a screen 416 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 6: over them, they'll all be on the floor in the morning. 417 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: They are. 418 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 6: They are the craziest jumping middle I have ever seen. 419 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 6: You definitely got to keep your lid on your mintal bucket. 420 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 6: I tell the guys that don't leave that lid in 421 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 6: that mintal bucket or that cooler open, because you're gonna 422 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 6: lose all your mentals. 423 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: I think that's awesome. Daddy, are you Are you seeing 424 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: lots of deer hunters coming into you know? 425 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't sell any any deer hunting equipment 426 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 6: or shelves or anything. And several years ago Kathy and 427 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 6: I decided we're just gonna have Fletcher's Bait being a 428 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 6: bait shop. So other than selling some license, which we do, 429 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 6: I don't see a lot of the hunting stuff because 430 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 6: we're not really in that game per se. So other 431 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 6: than talking to fisherman who happened to be out bull 432 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: hunting or hunting small game, and we just don't get 433 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 6: a lot of that information here anymore. 434 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: All right, just to check and too, Denny, we're going 435 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: to be out of time, my friend, but I appreciate 436 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: your time, and we will talk again as the as 437 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: we get closer to hard water. And I'm going to 438 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: sob big tears in just a moment, but that's kind 439 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: of my issue. But anyway, Denny, thank you so much 440 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: for all that you've offered and all that you shared 441 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: with us and our listeners, my friend, and I'll see 442 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: you real soon. 443 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 6: You bet been my pleasure, my folks. 444 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: That's Denny Fletcher, Fletcher's Bait and Tackle. We'll take a 445 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: pause and we will be right back with the mister 446 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: Stan Tequila. Oh, by the way, he's got a new 447 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: book out, dude. We'll talk about that along with he's 448 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 2: got a new channel that you can watch. 449 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: It's so cool. 450 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Stan after this. Welcome back 451 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 2: to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author, naturalist and. 452 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 3: Photographer Stan Tequila. 453 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: Whether it's in Minnesota, Alasko, or Africa, he's always in 454 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: search of all things. 455 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: Wild and natural. 456 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: He may even know more about animals than they do themselves. 457 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: And you thought the cat knew the outdoors. 458 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on fan Outdoors Stan, good morning. 459 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: Are flying squirrels at? Are flying squirrels active all night long? 460 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: Didn't even give him time to say hello, No, just thinking. 461 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: That I've gotta cover. I want to get that. 462 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: In good grief. Captain. Let the guy breath. 463 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: No, there's no breathing when I'm around, because I have questions. 464 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 3: Holy mackerel, Good morning, guys, good morning. 465 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 4: Stand Go ahead and ask it again, Captain, get it 466 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 4: out there. 467 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: Well, I gone it. 468 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: I want to forget. 469 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: Sorry if I have to ask it again. Are flying 470 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: squirrels active all night long? 471 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: Absolutely without a doubt, and we can prove it. I 472 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: feel like I've been set up here, so uh you 473 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: can what I started last week with a live stream 474 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 3: of my flying squirrels. So now people who've been hearing 475 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: me talk about them for years and years and hearing 476 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: Billy talk about for years and years can actually see 477 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: them because a lot of people don't see these flying squirrels. 478 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 3: They are you know, they come out at night obviously, 479 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: and they're you know, just hard to see. So what 480 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: I did was I've set up a camera that has 481 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: night vision on it and it's video and it's live, 482 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: and I just put it on my feeder and now 483 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: I stream it. So you can go to naturesmart dot 484 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: com and then scroll down at the bottom of the 485 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: first page, the homepage, and you'll see there's gonna be 486 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 3: a link for a live feed there. Or you can 487 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 3: go to YouTube directly and go to nature Smart Media 488 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: and you'll find the link there also. And I started, Yeah, 489 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: I started right at sunset, so it's not running now. 490 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: I just turned it off. In fact, it runs. I 491 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: run it all night long. I'll probably change that in 492 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: the future to run maybe two three hours or something 493 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 3: like that. We'll see. And you can tune in the 494 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: main thing to do is to tune in right when 495 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: it's getting dark because they are just we get three four, 496 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: five at a time, who come, you know, zipping in 497 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: and there's always squabbles and they're always sitting together looking 498 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: adorable and you know, having a good time. So anyhow, 499 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: like I said, you can go to nature smart dot 500 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: com and take a look at that. Hey, and while 501 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: you're there. While you're there at nature smart dot com 502 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: you can sign up for my new newsletter. I just 503 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: started this a couple of weeks ago. Also, so now 504 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: every two weeks you get an email from me with 505 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: a of my blog posting, plus any kind of trips 506 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: and extra things that I'm you know, working on and 507 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: things like that. So people, and of course it's free, 508 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: and of course it's just me. I don't you know, 509 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: I don't work with anybody. I don't sell it to 510 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: anybody or anything like that. It's just me. So people 511 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: can go to nature smart dot com and then sign 512 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: up for the the newsletter. Also while they're checking out 513 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: the live feed for the flying squirrels and by the way, 514 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 3: and there's one, there's wait wait there's more, and then 515 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: uh wait if all goes yeah, it all goes well. 516 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: I'm setting up a second camera this weekend that we'll 517 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: also watch the flying squirrels, but it'll see them flying in, 518 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: so you'll actually see them gliding in because the current 519 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 3: one just has the feeder. It's real tight shot on 520 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: the on the feeder. This one will show this flying 521 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 3: squirrels flying in. Hopefully. I'm working on it right now. 522 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 3: I was building it yesterday and doing some testing on 523 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 3: the cameras and it's a newer four K camera that 524 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 3: hopefully is going to be able to do and it's 525 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: a what they call a PTC camera at pans it 526 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: tiltsid zooms and things like that, so we should be 527 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 3: able to have some fun with it too, and that'll 528 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: all be on the live feed also. 529 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: Well, I watched it. I watched it for a while 530 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: yesterday last night, Stan, And yeah, I watched them come in. 531 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't see them come in, but I knew what 532 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: they were doing because all of a sudden they show 533 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: up on the side of the feeder and it's so cool. 534 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, really see and that's what Yeah, and that's my 535 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: like it. I like what I have now, but it 536 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: does doesn't show the full story. It doesn't show them, 537 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 3: you know, gliding in or flying in. And this new 538 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: one is going to be a new feeder. I'll run 539 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: both of them at the same time, so you'll be 540 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: able to see the close up of the feeder and 541 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: then you'll see a wider view to be able to 542 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: see them coming in. And this will probably be at 543 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: two different locations, so which is kind of fine. By 544 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 3: the way, I'm doing this at my house, so I 545 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: got one feeder in my front yard, one feeder in 546 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: my backyard, and we'll see how this goes. I could 547 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 3: be in for trouble, who knows. But anyhow, for those 548 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: those interested in flying squirrels, you're gonna love it. 549 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 4: So do people see flying squirrels and they miss and 550 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 4: identify them as like red squirrels or anything, or they 551 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 4: just are not seen because they're so nocturnal, They're. 552 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 3: Just not seeing them unless you're like at a campfire. 553 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: And now I believe, Bob, you've said that before, where 554 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: you've been like standing and I can't fire someone saw 555 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: one fly by or something like that. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, 556 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 3: but any rate, that's how most people see them. They 557 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 3: don't really get to see them see them. Some people 558 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: get lucky because they're at their bird feeder and they 559 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: turn on the light outside and then they can see 560 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: them briefly before they all take off. But generally speaking, 561 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 3: most people don't see them. So and to answer you know, 562 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: more specifically Bill's question, there's been many times where five 563 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: six o'clock in the morning, like right now, they're still 564 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: coming into the feeder. There's no more peanuts left, you know, 565 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: they've cleaned them out, but they still stop in the 566 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: chack just in case. So they are active right up 567 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: until the time gets dark or excuse me, until the 568 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: time gets light. And lately mine are coming out, I 569 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 3: don't know, twenty minutes a half hour before it's dark. 570 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: So they're really they're they're showing up at the feeder looking, 571 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: you know, early while it's still light out. So and 572 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: they get conditioned to these things too. They get conditioned 573 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: to the food. 574 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: So if the food isn't their stand for a few 575 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: days or something, do you lose them? Do they get 576 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: bored and look for other sources of food. 577 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: Well, it's not so much as they get bored, is 578 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: that they need to find food every day in order 579 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: to survive, and so they go out looking for it, 580 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: and they have many places in which they go to 581 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: find food, and they are they will store some of 582 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: the food for the winter time. So they do take 583 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: a bunch of the peanuts back to their nest and 584 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: then they'll store those in the wintertime. So there's you know, 585 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: it's like bird feeding. People say, well, I can't go 586 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: on vacation because you know my birds, It's like no, 587 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: they'll they you know, they have wings and they know 588 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: how to use them. You know, they will fly to 589 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 3: the next feeder or to the next area. And your 590 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: flying squirrels will have like a circuit in which they 591 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 3: move around from place to place to place where they 592 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 3: know where the food's at, and they just kind of 593 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 3: move around from place to place looking for this food. 594 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 3: And so it's it's generally not a problem because there 595 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: will be plenty of nights where I'm not feeding them, uh, 596 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 3: but generally almost every night, I'm pretty good about that. 597 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: And then I usually send out something on Instagram and 598 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: Facebook to say that hey, we're streaming live and for 599 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 3: people to check in. 600 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 4: So you have a lot of nice new updates on 601 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 4: your website. Another one that grabbed my attention is a 602 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 4: wanted poster that do you have a question? Do you 603 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: have any interesting wildlife in your backyard? Contact Stan and 604 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: you'll come photographic give us an idea of what your 605 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: what would trip your trigger? 606 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 2: Stan, I have another flying squirrel us. Before you change too. 607 00:35:52,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: Much, Okay, I will I guess back away from the microphone. 608 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: All right, I guess this is I guess this is 609 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: Bill Show. 610 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: So all right, good, all right, I just got a 611 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: text from Tommy George and who is listening. He always is, 612 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 2: and he wants to know if the full moon will 613 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: have any impact on the flying squirrel activity. 614 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 3: Uh, generally not. They they're active every single night, whether 615 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: they want to be or not. This is life or 616 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: death for them. They have to find food, especially when 617 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 3: we start headed into the winter. They're out there, you know, 618 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: specifically looking for food. And so they have to do this. 619 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 3: So following cycles of the moon is not something that 620 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: they have the luxury of doing. They have to get 621 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: out there every single you know night and be able 622 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 3: they're looking for food. Now, having said that, there are 623 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 3: times where the weather is so bad that the flying 624 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 3: squirrels don't come out and they'll stay, you know, hold 625 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 3: up for about you know, a day or a night, 626 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 3: i should say, and then come out the following night, 627 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 3: depending on how bad it is, depending on how much 628 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: food they have, depending on how far away your feeder 629 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: is from their home. Those types of things will all 630 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 3: determine whether or not they are, you know, how active 631 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 3: they are. 632 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: Do they store food like a chipmunk or some of 633 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: the other animals. 634 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do a certain amount of it, not a 635 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: huge amount. Chipmunks will do a large, large amount and 636 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 3: where the flying squirrels do a smaller amount, and they 637 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 3: typically these flying squirrels for the winter, so coming up here, 638 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: the winter housing is usually always a tree cavity, so 639 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 3: it's inside of a tree, and they don't you know, 640 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: so those are limited and they're often very valuable places 641 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: for protection. And unlike gray squirrels that make a leaf 642 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 3: nest called a dre those dray nests they use as 643 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: temporary housing and they can use them. The flying squirrels 644 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: don't have that, so they have to get you know, 645 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 3: go to a very specific tree cavity and that's where 646 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 3: they live, which also, by the way, makes it vulnerable. 647 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 3: There's so many things going on here too. Because these 648 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: tree cavities are so highly sought after. Raccoons oftentimes will 649 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: utilize these same cavities, and the raccoons are not very 650 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 3: i don't know, clean, and they oftentimes defecate inside their cavity. 651 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: And then when the flying squirrels use these cavities, they 652 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 3: pick up something called raccoon roundworm, and it really affects 653 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: the flying squirrels. It affects their balance, it affects their 654 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: you know, they have a hard time sitting up. They 655 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: have a hard time. They tremble and think things like that, 656 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 3: so you have to be really and that's it just 657 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: goes to point out how valuable tree cave of these are. 658 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 3: So for people who have any kind of property and 659 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: have you know, large dying trees with cavities in them, 660 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: they shouldn't be cutting them down. These are really extremely 661 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 3: important for any kind of habitat. All sorts of things 662 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 3: use them. And you know, you'll probably never know how 663 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: how many will use it, but they really do. And 664 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 3: there should be something you should should consider because I 665 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: know a lot of people just routinely just cut down 666 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 3: everything instead, and really you should leave some of the 667 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 3: things standing so that you got you know, not just 668 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 3: woodpeckers either. I'm talking lots of different things that can 669 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 3: use these. 670 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: Well. With the emerald ash war out here anyway, there's 671 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 2: going to be a lot of dead trees, just what 672 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 673 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, However, you know with the ash trees, ash 674 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 3: trees typically don't get big cavities in them. Well, having 675 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 3: said that that, let me take that back, because I've 676 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: got a fairly decent ash tree that's got a couple 677 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 3: of small cavities in it. But typically we're talking about 678 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 3: maples and oaks that not even so much as elms, 679 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 3: but the bass woods can have some nice cavities in 680 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: them too, So you know, you know, be mindful when 681 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 3: you're out there looking at these things. 682 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: Okay, Bob, you got two minutes, Kay. 683 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 3: Wanted poster. 684 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,800 Speaker 4: What sort of backyard wildlife would peak your interest? 685 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 3: Well, you'd be surprised, because I would be interested in 686 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 3: just about anything. Uh, this is Bob's referring to on 687 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 3: my website again, nature smart dot com. You can I 688 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: have a wanted poster there, and so I'm always looking 689 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 3: for opportunities in which to capture wildlife and it could 690 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 3: be something as basic as a you know, a Robin 691 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 3: nest on up to fox Stends and things like that, 692 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 3: and people oftentimes contact me about that. I come by, 693 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 3: we set up a time and if I'm able to 694 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: capture images, what I do is I make a really 695 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 3: nice print for them, and you know, leave a print 696 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 3: with them of the wildlife that they had in their 697 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: backyard from my adventure there trying to get things. So 698 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 3: it's really kind of a fun thing to do and 699 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 3: people get to learn about the wildlife that they do have, 700 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 3: and they get to get a nice print to put 701 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 3: on the wall afterwards too. 702 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: Go ahead, probably time. 703 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 3: Thirty seven seconds. 704 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 4: I saw a spotted salamander, well a couple about a 705 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 4: week ago on my dog walk. It was it was 706 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 4: rainy out and you know, temperatures were cooling. It was 707 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 4: moving as fast as the salamander would move. I'm assuming 708 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 4: it was looking for a place to hibernate. We're amphibious 709 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 4: like that. Where do they hibernate? Are they looking for 710 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 4: water to go to the bottom of a you know, 711 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 4: some silt, or where's a salamon going to hibernate? 712 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 3: That is exactly where salabators are going to hibernate. But 713 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: at this time of year, they're moving. They're they're migrating 714 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 3: from their summering areas to their wintering areas. And these 715 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 3: migration areas are kind of well traveled, but they're only 716 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 3: traveled in you know, in the fall, in the spring, 717 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 3: and uh, this is the time you can see them 718 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 3: the most. Now, would you say spotted salamon or do 719 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 3: you mean a tiger? 720 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 8: Yeah? 721 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, yellow spot, so black body, yellow spots, yep, yellow spot. Okay, 722 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 3: so tiger salamanic because there is a spotted salamoner. It's 723 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: got blue dots on it. So I was just trying 724 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 3: to classify clarify there. But yeah, these tiger salamanners used 725 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 3: to be found everywhere. You can find them all over 726 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 3: the place. People had them in their window wells, in 727 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 3: their house, all over the place, and they are truly 728 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 3: an indicator species, so the health of the environment. And uh, 729 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: typically what happens though, is that you've got these ephemeral ponds, 730 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 3: these ponds where the salamoners go to and they kind 731 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: of migrate to and from, and then you know, somebody 732 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 3: builds a house and boom right in the middle of 733 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: their migratory path, and then all of a sudden, you 734 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: have all these salamanders showing up and you're you're trying 735 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: to figure out why. It's because they've been using it, 736 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 3: that these are historic routes that are that are used 737 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 3: for generation after generation really and yeah, so yeah, there's 738 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 3: so much going on out there, you guys that I 739 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 3: don't think as we people kind of quite grasp the 740 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 3: magnitude of it all. But we hardly see salamanders anymore. 741 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,439 Speaker 3: They just the numbers of them are going down so much. 742 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: They reminder that these animals kind of absorb water through 743 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 3: their skin from the environment, and so therefore they're absorbing 744 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 3: the chemicals that are in the environment, and this is 745 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 3: what their downfall is. So they don't they don't actually 746 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 3: drink per se. They bring in the moisture through their skin, 747 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 3: and then when they bring in that moisture, they're also 748 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 3: bringing in the chemicals, which causes all sorts of problems 749 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 3: for them. 750 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 2: Stan I think that the whatever the common frog is, 751 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: I've only seen a couple of them this summer, and 752 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 2: now when I do notice them, I never used to 753 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: pay much attention, but they they strike a chord and 754 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 2: it's a memory cord that that's pretty cool. I haven't 755 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: seen a frog for a long time. I've seen lots 756 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: of toads out here because they seem to hatch and 757 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 2: they're just eighty beaty things in the summer, just micers 758 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 2: almost well just a little because the grandkids they're picking 759 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 2: them up all the time and calling them frog. So 760 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,720 Speaker 2: I've got to correct things. 761 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 3: But I can help you with that one. Yeah, So 762 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 3: those are American toads. We have two species of toad. 763 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: We have the American toad and then we have a 764 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 3: Canadian toad. And this Canadian toad is a species. It's 765 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: only found in the far northwestern portion of Minnesota and 766 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 3: then up into Canada. And uh, they look almost identical, 767 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 3: but they sound very different from each other. And the 768 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 3: h just to help out with with the grandkids. And 769 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 3: when they're calling it a frog, they're technically, uh, not wrong, 770 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 3: because are you ready for this? I gotta get I 771 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 3: gotta get this right. All toads are frogs, but not 772 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 3: all frogs are toads. I'll give you a second and 773 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 3: think about that. So, yeah, so all all toads are frogs, 774 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 3: but not all frogs are toads. Yeah, I know. So 775 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 3: the way this works is is that a toad is 776 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 3: a type of frog. It's just that we as people, 777 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 3: we try to, you know, categorize things. That's what we 778 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 3: like to do. And and so these toads are a 779 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: type of frog, but they they're terrestrial. They have usually 780 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 3: bumpy skin, usually ry skin, and they live on the 781 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 3: ground except for when they're mating, because they mate in 782 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 3: the water. And whereas frogs tend to have wet skin, 783 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 3: smooth skin, not bumpy, and they live in the water. 784 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: But they're all basically doing the same type of thing. 785 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: It's all a type of amphibian. 786 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 2: And they don't give you toba warts. 787 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: No, they do not. I still get that question asked 788 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 3: all the time, and it's like, no, they do not 789 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 3: give you words. Now, what they do do, which is 790 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 3: kind of cool, is that they have these little do do. 791 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 3: They've got glands that they secrete a toxin that when 792 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 3: toad is you know, like picked up by a dog 793 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 3: for example, it releases these It's called a paranoid gland. 794 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 3: This paranoid gland emits this kind of oh, I don't know, 795 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 3: it's like a yellowish, viscous substance and it really tastes 796 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 3: and the dogs don't like it and it causes him 797 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 3: to folment the mouth and it's a real problem. So 798 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 3: don't let your dogs pick up the toads. 799 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, Stan, we have to take a pause. You're okay, Stan, 800 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: Let's do it wonderful. Before we do, I've got to 801 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: wish a very happy birthday to Ann from Alec to 802 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 2: day happy And yeah we will sing later, but right now. 803 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: And and she wasn't gonna want me to use her 804 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: last name, but I'm going to anyway. And Logan happy birthday. 805 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 2: So we'll take a pause and we'll be right back 806 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 2: with more Stan after this five minutes past the hour 807 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 2: of seven a m. This Saturday morning edition of Fan Outdoors. 808 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: Bob Saint Pierre in studio in the big chair, and 809 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 2: our guest is the mister Stan Tequila, and you can 810 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 2: find him and lots of new things that he's told 811 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: us about on naturesmart dot com. Stan, you have a 812 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 2: new book out too, do you not? 813 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,959 Speaker 3: Well, I've got I'm working on a bunch of new books. 814 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 3: I've got six new books coming out in spring of 815 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 3: twenty six, so not for another couple of months yet, 816 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 3: but they are they're on their way. I don't have 817 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 3: the list in front of me, but there's a several 818 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: new books for the Midwest. I have a redo of 819 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: a book I did close to forty years ago called 820 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 3: Nature Smart. It's the name of my company, and kind 821 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 3: of redone that book from a long, long time ago, 822 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,799 Speaker 3: and it's it's what an adventure this has been. So 823 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 3: this is a book I wrote, like I said, forty 824 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 3: some years ago, and so I'm working on it now. 825 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 3: The publishers wanting me to to redo it and kind 826 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 3: of update everything and then make it more regionalized and 827 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 3: make it for the Midwest. And so I'm like, okay, 828 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 3: this is great. So they said send me the send 829 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 3: me the file. So they sent me the file and 830 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm going through it and I'm thinking, why are there 831 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 3: so many typos and errors in here? And I just couldn't. 832 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 3: I couldn't figure the darn thing out. And I got 833 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 3: halfway through the manuscript. As I'm going through this thing, 834 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 3: and it finally dawned on me, I was like, oh, 835 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: I know why this is all got so many typos. 836 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 3: I wrote this on a typewriter. There was no computers 837 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,280 Speaker 3: back then, you know, to spell check and all that stuff. 838 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 3: And so looking scratching my head, going why is this terrible? 839 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 3: Look at it? And I'm like, oh my gosh. So anyhow, 840 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 3: so that's uh, computers really help, they really do. And 841 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 3: uh that I'm that smart to notice that. It's just 842 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 3: that there's a bunch of red squiggly lines underneath everything 843 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 3: saying that it's all wild. 844 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: I remember stand in college, I'd have to type my papers. 845 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: But I'm trying to type on something like that to 846 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 2: turn in it looked like it snowed in my room. 847 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean there's a ripped mountain, crumple them up and 848 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: throw them on the floor. And it took me a 849 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 2: long time, and I usually had to somebody to do them. 850 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 3: Somebody type it up. I use a lot of white 851 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,360 Speaker 3: out on those things. But then it's really hard to 852 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 3: type over. You had to really wait till it's try 853 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 3: and then you can type over it. And in fact, 854 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 3: I think the first four books, five books I did, 855 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 3: were all on a typewriter, and I turned in paper manuscripts. 856 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,359 Speaker 3: So that was literally what I turned in, just like 857 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 3: you know, the full book, just here you go, title 858 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 3: page and all. So things have changed dramatically, I bet. 859 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 2: They have, but I'll bet there's lots of other things. 860 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 2: Did you find anything on the on the book that 861 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 2: was that old stand that was you had to change 862 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 2: because it's no longer act? 863 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,759 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, absolutely, yeah, there was. There was. I was 864 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 3: reading through it and going, oh, this got change, you know, 865 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 3: and lots of lots of things. Here's a good example 866 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: of it. Throughout my career, we've always said that birds 867 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 3: have very little or no ability to smell, and now 868 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,280 Speaker 3: the latest research is showing that, in fact, they probably 869 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 3: do have a fairly decent olfactory system, and they're basing 870 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 3: this on some uh you know, because you can't just 871 00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 3: ask them, here, smell this, Do you smell it? 872 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 7: You know? 873 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 3: Uh, So you end up having to look at the 874 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 3: brain of these birds and the olfactory lobe. There's just 875 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 3: this bulb, this little projection off the brain that is 876 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 3: really where all the scents are registered at, and they 877 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 3: look at that and see how large it is in 878 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,320 Speaker 3: comparison to the bird, kind of like a comparison of size, 879 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,799 Speaker 3: and then they're making their judgments from there. And then 880 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 3: there's been a researcher who did some great work on 881 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 3: dark eyed junkos. Dark eyed junkos are a small sparrow 882 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 3: type bird. They show up here in the wintertime, so 883 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 3: we don't have them in the summer, but they show 884 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 3: up in the Twin Cities area for the wintertime. They're 885 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 3: the ones that are just shown up now. They're kind 886 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 3: of gray and they come to your feeders and they're 887 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 3: probably one of the most common feederbirds in the wintertime. 888 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,959 Speaker 3: And anyhow, they were doing studies with this with these 889 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,720 Speaker 3: birds and discovered that they have the ability to differentiate 890 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 3: between different members of the family by their scent, by 891 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 3: how they smell. But what's more interesting about it is 892 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,439 Speaker 3: that the smell that emanates from the birds comes from 893 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 3: the fact that they have a lot of birds, not all. 894 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 3: A lot of birds have an oil gland, as U 895 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 3: patrol gland that they squeeze and they can oil their 896 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 3: feathers with it, which, by the way, we always thought 897 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 3: was for waterproofing. Turns out it's not anyhow. Bacteria, which 898 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,839 Speaker 3: our microscopic feed on the oil, and as the bacteria 899 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 3: are feeding on the oil that's on the bird's feathers, 900 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 3: the bacteria gives off a smell and that's what the 901 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 3: birds are smelling, and that's in each one of them 902 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 3: is a little bit different because their oil is slightly different, 903 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 3: and that's how the birds are telling the difference between them. 904 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,520 Speaker 3: So it's going back to what I said earlier. There's 905 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 3: so much going on in nature that we just have 906 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: no clue about. We just it's right there under our 907 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 3: noses pun intended. You know that it's right there and 908 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 3: we don't even know it. 909 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 2: Well. I always wonder too, because when a field is harvested, 910 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,760 Speaker 2: you might see one or two either ducks or geese 911 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: or just a small number. But the next day they 912 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 2: are just hordes of them coming in. That is, they'll 913 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 2: come in by the hundreds, and they've got to either 914 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 2: communicate in my eyes or they they rely on their 915 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 2: eyes and see it. But I don't understand how one 916 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 2: or two birds can impact a number so large in 917 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. 918 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:32,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they communication between individuals of bird individuals is 919 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 3: well documented and it's something that and they share this 920 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 3: information which is amazing, and they're able to communicate that 921 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 3: you know, where the food sources are at. In addition 922 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: to that, they follow, like right now, what I see 923 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 3: a lot of In fact, I always stop the other night, 924 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 3: and I kind of kicked myself for not doing it, 925 00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 3: is that when they're farmers are their fields. What they're 926 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 3: doing is they're turning over the soil and it's exposing 927 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 3: all the grubs. And then you get these gulls behind them, 928 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 3: hundreds of them. Who has the you know, the tractors 929 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,839 Speaker 3: going along the gulls. The ones in the back are 930 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 3: moving to the front and the ones you know, and 931 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 3: then it kind of keeps they keep rotating over each other. 932 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 3: And I was driving along and I was watching this 933 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 3: and I thought, oh, and the sun was on it 934 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 3: and it was. It was like late day. It was 935 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 3: absolutely perfect. I thought I need to stop and do 936 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 3: some video of that because it's such a remarkable thing. 937 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 3: I didn't, and now I kicked myself for it, But 938 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 3: it's it's very common for them to do that, and 939 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 3: they find these grubs in the fields. So really those 940 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,720 Speaker 3: birds as they're doing that, are helping the farmers a lot, 941 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,680 Speaker 3: uh and any kind of spilled grain. Also they're they're grabbing, 942 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 3: so it's a you know, it's kind of a reliable 943 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 3: food source for them and they're taking advantage of it. 944 00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,400 Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, and I'm it's always just amazing, is me. 945 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 2: Some of the things we don't know that now we 946 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,319 Speaker 2: do after listening to you and and some of the 947 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 2: stories and some of the wisdom that you impart on. Bob, 948 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 2: not me, but I'm Bob. 949 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: Am I am I allowed to talk again, Captain. 950 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, it depends what you're going to say. 951 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 4: I was gonna correct stand and say seagulls, but I 952 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 4: probably get I was wondering, though, why is it just 953 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 4: the goals that are you know, Johnny on the spot 954 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 4: to get those grubs, because there's an awful lot of 955 00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 4: different birds that you know, would take that meal if 956 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 4: they could, just they're used to it. They've they've been 957 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 4: conditioned to look for the tractor and be ready to roll. 958 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean, what why why gulls for that, you know, 959 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,800 Speaker 4: food source. 960 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 3: It's something that they've they've learned and they're taking advantage of. 961 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 3: And they're the ones who are in the flocks. I 962 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 3: mean other birds take advantage of it. They're just not 963 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 3: in flocks. I know. San hill cranes take advantage of 964 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 3: it too. They move in after the you know, the 965 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 3: equipment's gone and they'll go around and feed that way also, 966 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,440 Speaker 3: So that's very common. So it's a it's just a 967 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 3: matter of that's the species that happens to, you know, 968 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 3: be well suited to do that. And they're moving through 969 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 3: right now in very large numbers, migrating through. We have 970 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 3: two species that are migrating through right now. We have 971 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 3: the ring built gull. The ring bill is probably our 972 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 3: most common gull. But then we have Franklin's skulls. And 973 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 3: the Franklin skulls are this prairie gull from north Dakota 974 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 3: and northwest Minnesota up into Canada. Who are they? They 975 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 3: don't go to the shore Basically, they go to lakes 976 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 3: and they're moving through. Also, this is in the springtime. 977 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 3: When you see the Franklin skulls, they're a black headed gull, 978 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 3: so you can notice that at this time of the 979 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,439 Speaker 3: year they're no longer in breeding condition, so they don't 980 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 3: have that black heads. They have a partial black head, 981 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 3: which unless you get a really good look at them, 982 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,320 Speaker 3: you're not going to see. So take a little closer 983 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 3: look at your goals next time you see them. You'll 984 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 3: notice some differences between the two. 985 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 2: Stand Normally we'd have to go, but are you willing 986 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 2: to give us a little bonus segment? 987 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 3: I'd love to. Let's do it, all right, as long 988 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 3: as we can talk about flying squirrels, we can do that. 989 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:33,439 Speaker 2: We can do that, and okay, coming right up, we're 990 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 2: going to take a pause. But coming up and from Alec, 991 00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: this is for you, Happy birthday. We're gonna have a 992 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 2: bonus segment for Stan Tequila and only if you promise 993 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 2: to go to nature Smart and check out the flying 994 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: squirrel camera tonight. Okay, everybody, put your hands in the air. 995 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,160 Speaker 2: If you're all willing to do that, we'll take a 996 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: pause and be right back with a bonus segment a 997 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: fan or stand Tequila Man, we're back Fan Outdoors that 998 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 2: is until the eight o'clock hour, but keep it right 999 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 2: here in the zone follows us and it's it's always 1000 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 2: really really fun to listen to. That would be with 1001 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 2: Trent Tucker and Davey Sinecon, Bob Saint Pierre is with 1002 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: me and Fan Outdoors this week. Stan Tequila is. It's 1003 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 2: a bonus stand tequila by the way, and we're delighted 1004 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 2: he's agreed to stay with us too. Bob, do you 1005 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 2: want to kick things off? I'll ask you this first 1006 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 2: before I shut you off. 1007 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 3: Great, thank you. 1008 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 4: Well, we've covered we've covered amphibians, and it got me wondering, 1009 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,200 Speaker 4: am already lizards? 1010 00:59:58,840 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1011 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 4: You know snakes will stay away from snakes because but 1012 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 4: I was thinking about reptiles and are there any lizards 1013 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 4: in the state of Minnesota. 1014 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, there is. We have a couple of different 1015 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 3: prairie skinks. Skinks are type of lizard that are typically smaller, 1016 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 3: not as thin as what we might think of a 1017 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 3: you know, like a lizard. But excuse me. There can 1018 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 3: be very common in some areas that have hillsides and 1019 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 3: with good sunning areas and they they're kind of brownish 1020 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 3: with thin tan stripes running down them. But yeah, we 1021 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 3: have a couple of different types of skinks, and then 1022 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 3: we have a seven lined race runner, which is really 1023 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 3: hard to find. Generally, they're found more in the southern 1024 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 3: part of the state and then more or so into Iowa, 1025 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 3: and then you've prefer the south from there. But yeah, 1026 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: we do have several lizard species excluding the snakes, reptile 1027 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 3: species excluding the snakes. 1028 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1029 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, also, and I have not seen one in quite 1030 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 3: a while, but the glass lizard. Glass lizards are a 1031 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,959 Speaker 3: legless lizard. They look just like a snake, but they 1032 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 3: are not a snake. They are a lizard that they 1033 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 3: have eyes, eyes that blink. It's just if they don't 1034 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,960 Speaker 3: have any legs, so they look like a snake, but 1035 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 3: they're not. 1036 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 4: What So if it's a lizard that looks like a 1037 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,600 Speaker 4: snake without. 1038 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 3: Any legs, what makes it a lizard? Like I said, 1039 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 3: blinks Snakes can't blink. There's yeah, there's a lot of 1040 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 3: anatomy differences between them. Did you know that Captain snakesky? 1041 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 2: I did not. Probably if I've seen one, I've mistaken 1042 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: it for a snake. And I don't go there. 1043 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 3: You never got kind of steering contest with a snake. 1044 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 2: No, no, you don't want to do that. 1045 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So snakes have a have a scale over their eye, 1046 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 3: so they they have no eye lids and they can't blink. Uh, 1047 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 3: so they obviously they sleep with their eyes open and 1048 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 3: they have a single scale that goes across their eye. 1049 01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Then when they are shedding their skin, you know, to 1050 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,439 Speaker 3: grow larger, and they have to shed their outer skin 1051 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,320 Speaker 3: to be able to come larger because they've got this 1052 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 3: you know, constricting skin on them, the eye turns blue, 1053 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 3: so you get this milky bluish color across their eye. 1054 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 3: Then you know that the scale is coming off of 1055 01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 3: the eye surface. And at that point the snake is 1056 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 3: basically going around not being you know, like with bad cataracts, 1057 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 3: is what it's like. And so it goes around for 1058 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 3: a while for a day or two even or sometimes 1059 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 3: three days where it really can't see very well. And 1060 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 3: then when it sheds the skin, the skin comes off, 1061 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 3: the scale across the eye comes off with it, and boom, 1062 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 3: they've got this clear vision again and they can continue on. 1063 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 2: So interesting can they go quite a while? Can a 1064 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: snake go quite a while stand without food. 1065 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Yes, snakes can go many months sometimes without eating. 1066 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 3: Well they first of all, they do that in the 1067 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 3: winter time, but that's not voluntary. But then voluntarily speaking, 1068 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 3: they can go many many months without eating. At the 1069 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 3: nature Center, I remember we had a redtail boa who 1070 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 3: just refused to eat for Oh, I was better part 1071 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 3: of eight months or so for eight months nothing, didn't 1072 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 3: need to think. But what was so crazy about it 1073 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 3: was that it's still defecated on a regular basis, So 1074 01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 3: all this was still in there. The digestive system ease 1075 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,080 Speaker 3: reptiles is so slow that things take forever to get 1076 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 3: through its system and it extracts every bit of nutrients 1077 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 3: out of it or whatever they ate, and they're so 1078 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 3: they're highly efficient and they do really well. So yes, 1079 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 3: they can go long, long periods without eating. 1080 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 2: Interesting, I didn't realize that is the migration winding down yet. 1081 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Some of them migration is Yeah, most of the migration 1082 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 3: is winding down. I hesitate because if I want to 1083 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 3: jump back in just a second to the reptiles aphibians 1084 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 3: coming up this spring in twenty six I've got a 1085 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,040 Speaker 3: new field guide for the reptiles and Amphibians of the 1086 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 3: Midwest coming out. So that's another one of those six 1087 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 3: books that I couldn't remember all of them, and it 1088 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 3: just reminded me, Oh yeah, I haven't new reptil amphibian 1089 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,960 Speaker 3: but coming out in the springtime. But so back to 1090 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 3: the migration. So yeah, there's still plenty of birds who 1091 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 3: are migrating through. I don't know if you guys have 1092 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,919 Speaker 3: had a chance to check out the birdcast dot org, 1093 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,600 Speaker 3: but there's still plenty of birds moving through. I'll try 1094 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 3: to do it while we're talking here to see what 1095 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 3: what we had for you know, migration over hanging on 1096 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 3: one second, here we go and one and forty five 1097 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,919 Speaker 3: million birds last night. What you know what you got? 1098 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the entire country. 1099 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, because I'm looking at Carver County, which is 1100 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 3: where I'm at right now, and uh, they're showing very 1101 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 3: very few, if if any. So a lot of the 1102 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,560 Speaker 3: nighttime migrators are you know, are moving through and now 1103 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 3: what we're seeing the daytime migrators. These tend to be 1104 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 3: the bigger birds like sandhill cranes, hawks, eagles. Uh, these 1105 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 3: birds are later migrators and the whereas the smaller birds 1106 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 3: who migrate at night. Oh yeah, I'm looking at the 1107 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 3: nationwide map and it's mostly to the east and down 1108 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 3: to the south through Texas. So we're so most a lot. 1109 01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 3: Looks like a lot of our nighttime migration with our 1110 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 3: small birds are done, at least for now. I'm sure 1111 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 3: there'll be some stragglers coming through, but they've they've really 1112 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 3: shifted over to the daytime migrators like the hawks and 1113 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 3: eagles in the in the cranes swapens. One's another big 1114 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:33,919 Speaker 3: one too. Yeah, I'm still seeing a few, but most 1115 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 3: of them are gone. 1116 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 2: Okay. Now, they don't fly straight down, do they. I 1117 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,959 Speaker 2: mean they don't. They don't head that way by themselves individually. Don't. 1118 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: They hit the currents and kind of circle when they're moving. Yeah. 1119 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 3: They are a flock migrator, so they'll go together in 1120 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,920 Speaker 3: big flocks, and they use these thermals, these rising columns 1121 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 3: of warm air, to circle around up and up to 1122 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 3: get a free ride. Basically, so they ride these thermals 1123 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,919 Speaker 3: up high. As the thermals rise up, the warm air 1124 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 3: cools off, and as it cools off, it loses its lyft, 1125 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 3: loses its ability to go up, so then it peters out, 1126 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 3: and then they kind of peel off of that one 1127 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,640 Speaker 3: thermal and they go and find another thermal, ride that 1128 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 3: one up, and then they'll just keep on riding one 1129 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,920 Speaker 3: thermal after another as they move continually further south. These again, 1130 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 3: are daytime migrating birds because they need those thermals in 1131 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 3: which to fly on. Now you've got some birds like 1132 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 3: cranes and swans who they can take advantage, and they 1133 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 3: do take advantage of these thermals, but they also migrate 1134 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 3: at night. So there's no steadfast you know rule that says, oh, 1135 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,640 Speaker 3: they only do this or they only do that. That's 1136 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 3: simply not true. There's lots of these you know depends 1137 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,720 Speaker 3: and maybes and you know type of migrators in there too. 1138 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 4: I'll throw one more topic out before we run out 1139 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 4: of time. There's a lot of folk keenly interested and 1140 01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 4: when the white tail deer rut is going to kick in, 1141 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 4: what will influence that? 1142 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 3: Is it light? Is a wind? Is a temperature? Is 1143 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 3: it all? Okay? I have not been out yet. I 1144 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,320 Speaker 3: was supposed to go out this past week to for 1145 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,720 Speaker 3: the white tail rut and start checking things out, but 1146 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,960 Speaker 3: I was too busy putting together the flying squirrel camp, 1147 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:29,760 Speaker 3: the sea priorities. Yeah, so I didn't make it out, 1148 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 3: Otherwise I could have had a good report for you. 1149 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess I'm gonna go on a limb here 1150 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 3: that some of the males are already running only because 1151 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,600 Speaker 3: they're males and that's what they do. And but you 1152 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 3: know it's going to be more into you know, into November. 1153 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 3: But I mean, after all, we are what this twenty 1154 01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 3: twenty fifth of October it's getting. We're right in the custom. 1155 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 3: I would be shocked if they're not running. I will, 1156 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 3: hopefully in a couple weeks when we talk again, I'll 1157 01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 3: have some reports for you. But my whole plan was 1158 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 3: to get out this past week, but I have been 1159 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 3: obsessed with trying to get this whole live is live 1160 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 3: streaming going. And now I got one more camera I'm 1161 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 3: want to put up here, probably later today, depending on 1162 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,680 Speaker 3: how the wed it is out there, and then then 1163 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 3: there'll be a matter of running the waters for it. 1164 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,080 Speaker 3: There's so much involved, and by the way I make 1165 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 3: it sound like it's just me out there doing it. 1166 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,000 Speaker 3: I'm working with a good friend of mine, Tom Lawrence, 1167 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 3: who is kind of my computer guru and my daughter Abby, 1168 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,679 Speaker 3: who runs my website and does all my stuff. Without them, 1169 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 3: none of this would be possible. They are just absolutely 1170 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 3: amazing and do such a great job at helping me out. 1171 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 3: I got these hair brain ideas, and they try to 1172 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 3: make it happen for me. So it's good to have 1173 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 3: family who knows things. It's really great. 1174 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 2: Yes, it is, Stan. I'm looking out the window. We've 1175 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 2: got a little bit of light now now on the lake, 1176 01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 2: I can see a bunch of probably one hundred to 1177 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 2: two hundred coots and they kind of common goal they 1178 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 2: should be. I can't believe there's many more left because 1179 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 2: they the big flocks out there, and all of a 1180 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 2: sudden in the morning they're gone. But they suld move 1181 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:15,879 Speaker 2: up and down the lake feeding. 1182 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are a later migrator too, and they will 1183 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 3: come through in big flocks like that. They'll rest overnight 1184 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 3: on the lake and then you know, get moving again 1185 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 3: during the daytime. So we'd expect to see that at 1186 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 3: this time of year too. I have not checked the 1187 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 3: numbers up at hawk Ridge lately, but I would imagine 1188 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 3: they're doing pretty good up there too, because we've had 1189 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 3: some pretty favorable weather to push the birds along. And 1190 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 3: we are moving into November here, so we're going to 1191 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,519 Speaker 3: be seeing the eagles will be moving next so I'm. 1192 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 2: And as a waterfowler, you always kind of hope that 1193 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 2: there's going to be a storm up north to push 1194 01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 2: waterfowl down. And sometimes they stay a while, sometimes they 1195 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 2: just maybe they don't keep going and then they're gone. 1196 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's there's a lots you could do 1197 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,680 Speaker 3: at this time of year too, if you're not out 1198 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 3: hunting there. I was out repairing all my wood dot 1199 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:20,400 Speaker 3: boxes yesterday and uh, just because they kind of beat 1200 01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 3: up over the summertime, and so you can get out there. 1201 01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 3: If you're talking about waterfowl, you want to, you know, 1202 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 3: try to do some things. It's good to repair the 1203 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 3: existing ones you have right now. I would wait to 1204 01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,600 Speaker 3: put up new ones till the spring or uh, you know, 1205 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 3: depending on where you're going to put them, if you 1206 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 3: can get them in the ground. But you get the 1207 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 3: pole on the ground now and then maybe put the 1208 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 3: box up come up to springtime. But this is a 1209 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 3: time year to be out there doing that type of 1210 01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 3: stuff too. 1211 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 2: Stan, thank you for bonus time that you've given us 1212 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,719 Speaker 2: this morning. It's much appreciated. But we will chat again 1213 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,679 Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. Thank you, sir. 1214 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 3: All right, guys, talk to you next time. Thanks Stan, 1215 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,640 Speaker 3: have a great Saturday. 1216 01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 2: Yes, that is Stan to one of our favorite guests 1217 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 2: ever Fan Outdoors, and he is a wealth of information 1218 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,479 Speaker 2: something I have learned a great deal from somebody. But 1219 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:16,040 Speaker 2: I have also learned a brighter and a greater appreciation 1220 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 2: for the wild outdoors than I had as a younger man. 1221 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,640 Speaker 2: And now I find a lot of things pretty fascinating 1222 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 2: as I'm wandering around the fields in search of the 1223 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,720 Speaker 2: wiley pheasant or just going for a walk, which I 1224 01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 2: seldom do. There's usually a gun in my hand when 1225 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 2: I'm walking. But we'll take a pause our final one 1226 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,479 Speaker 2: and be back with yours truly and Bob Saint Pierre 1227 01:12:43,080 --> 01:13:12,839 Speaker 2: after this. Well, it's the final segment of Fan Outdoors today. 1228 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:18,040 Speaker 2: It's been really fun coming to you this morning. But 1229 01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 2: let's ask Bob Saint Pierre your plans for the weekend 1230 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:23,200 Speaker 2: and coming up. 1231 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:28,200 Speaker 3: My friend, I am gonna go to the woods. 1232 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 4: I think this weekend I'm gonna go chase rough grouse 1233 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 4: and timberdoodles around Woodcock season ends. If you can believe 1234 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 4: that we're starting to talk about the end of hunting 1235 01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:47,360 Speaker 4: seasons already, but Woodcock season ends on November third, So 1236 01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,639 Speaker 4: this is my last opportunity this weekend to get out 1237 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,280 Speaker 4: because I'm going to Missouri. I will not be with 1238 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 4: you next weekend. I'm gonna film episode three of the 1239 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 4: Opening Day series next weekend in Missouri for the Bob 1240 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 4: Boite Quail opener in the state of Missouri with a 1241 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 4: biologist that works for us and his dad worked for 1242 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 4: the Missouri Department of Conservation. 1243 01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,719 Speaker 3: Kind of the appled in Far Fall, Far from. 1244 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:22,480 Speaker 4: The Tree, sort of story about Bob Boy Quail and biologists. 1245 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 4: So I'm pretty excited to go do that. And there's 1246 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 4: a chance that I might see some timberdoodles and maybe 1247 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,799 Speaker 4: even a rooster in Missouri. I've never hunted in Missouri before, 1248 01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 4: so lots of news, lots of firsts next weekend, you know. 1249 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,959 Speaker 2: And most of the time what you hear from Missouri 1250 01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 2: is the or are the turkey hunting down there? And 1251 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 2: I know when I've fished down there on oh Truman Reservoir. 1252 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,080 Speaker 2: From time to time, I'll see in the bays, the 1253 01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 2: number of bays that are down there, I'll see turkeys 1254 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:59,639 Speaker 2: flying from one side to the other, and it's it's 1255 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,760 Speaker 2: really an interesting and interesting place to it. It's just 1256 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 2: far enough south that things really don't freeze up down 1257 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:06,679 Speaker 2: there either. 1258 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a really a growth state for our organization. 1259 01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,879 Speaker 4: It's kind of what to Quail Forever, Missouri has become 1260 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,880 Speaker 4: what Pheasants Forever is in Minnesota in terms of number 1261 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,120 Speaker 4: of members and the active habitat projects. So there's a 1262 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 4: good quail story to tell in Missouri. It's not a 1263 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 4: state on a lot of people's radar, but yeah, I'm 1264 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,840 Speaker 4: excited to get first hand experience down there. 1265 01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:40,679 Speaker 2: Excellent. I know that yours truly will be out chasing 1266 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 2: the Wili rooster today. I'm doing some walking. I walked 1267 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 2: yesterday for a while, but I haven't seen much. Of course, 1268 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 2: I haven't really gone to the back ends of some 1269 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 2: of the units that I need to get to and 1270 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,760 Speaker 2: because well, because my legs were. 1271 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 4: Well, the birds are definitely getting chased around. Uh. There's 1272 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 4: there's a lot a lot of folks out pheasant hunting 1273 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 4: largely pretty good success. But it's one of those things 1274 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:18,440 Speaker 4: when the forecasts this year was very positive. It generates 1275 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of license sales, which is 1276 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 4: overall a good thing, and people are getting out and 1277 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 4: enjoying the outdoors, the fields and the forests. But the 1278 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,479 Speaker 4: birds are they're sharpening up their survival skills right now. 1279 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. What what I am seeing though, Bob, is I 1280 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 2: drove fair amount of miles yesterday and there's a lot 1281 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,679 Speaker 2: of hunters out. Yeah, and I'm thinking, don't these guys work? 1282 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,920 Speaker 4: I wonder I wonder that about you. You get to 1283 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 4: you get to hunt all week log. What are you 1284 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,719 Speaker 4: seeing in terms of corn coming out? 1285 01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot of standing corn. 1286 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is gonna make for a very good 1287 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 4: late season, I think, because that's my experience too. Everywhere 1288 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,439 Speaker 4: I drive the beans have come out pretty quickly. But 1289 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,360 Speaker 4: I think I saw a report only twenty five percent 1290 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 4: of the corn is out, which means seventy five percent 1291 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 4: of the corn is in. And there's a lot of 1292 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 4: places for those birds to hide. 1293 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, there really are, and they come out. Well, we 1294 01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 2: call it a golden hour for me. I usually call 1295 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 2: it I'm really tired. 1296 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:34,559 Speaker 3: You call it happy hour. 1297 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, and we've had the Antalyst season. I think 1298 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 2: that's wrapped up now, the special season. But that being said, 1299 01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 2: that's one of the topics I wanted to chat just 1300 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 2: a moment about. And I'm disappointed in people because so 1301 01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:04,280 Speaker 2: many hunters are just out for antlers, and I remind 1302 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:09,479 Speaker 2: them that this is the tool. Shooting on hunters are 1303 01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,240 Speaker 2: the tool the DNR has to manage the resource and 1304 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 2: people that pass on dose because all they're doing is 1305 01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 2: hunting for antlers or hunting for horns and so to speak, 1306 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 2: which is not accurate as Stan would tell me, but 1307 01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:32,240 Speaker 2: it's they're doing the whole population a bit of a disservice, 1308 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 2: and that doesn't include yours truly at all, because I 1309 01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 2: have I am not hunting for antlers. I am hunting 1310 01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:45,639 Speaker 2: for meat to put in my freezer, and I really 1311 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,839 Speaker 2: I will enjoy it and I will take multiple dose 1312 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 2: if the season and tags allow it to. 1313 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,680 Speaker 4: Well, clearly, you know where my heart resides when it 1314 01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 4: comes to vedicon. I love Venicey above pretty much all 1315 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 4: on their meat. And I was wondering with the skyrocketing 1316 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 4: beef prices, I wonder if that will influence either the 1317 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 4: number of people out deer hunting or their willingness to 1318 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:23,839 Speaker 4: harvested dough because you know, the expensive a hunting license 1319 01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 4: and a you know, you know, one piece of ammo 1320 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 4: is a heck of a lot more affordable than you know, 1321 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 4: what beef is right now. 1322 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And also people have to realize that a lot 1323 01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 2: of guys, a lot of people will just take their 1324 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 2: animal to someplace else a meat market or someplace, drop 1325 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 2: it off and be done with it. And that's not 1326 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 2: the case in this family whatsoever. I mean, usually it 1327 01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,719 Speaker 2: ends up in my garage and we end up cutting 1328 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 2: it up. 1329 01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 3: And unless you make unless you make sticks bacon. 1330 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 2: Out of it. 1331 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you do take some of it to processor? 1332 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I do. We take trim and I don't 1333 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,040 Speaker 2: take any of the good stuff, but we take trim 1334 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 2: in and I'll have that made. Last year we made 1335 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:22,719 Speaker 2: it into cheddar summer sausage, and we had about thirty 1336 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,679 Speaker 2: pounds of that maid it's gone. 1337 01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 4: So I got one of the last bites at the 1338 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,760 Speaker 4: tailgate of the pheasant opener. Huh, you did. 1339 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 3: It's very good. 1340 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 2: It is really good. Everybody has got their own favorite processor. 1341 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:45,679 Speaker 2: And we found ours to the Garfield smokehouses where we take. 1342 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:46,439 Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know that. 1343 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,879 Speaker 4: So you go that past Alexandria, then yeah, it's. 1344 01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 2: Not too far past, but a lot of the trim 1345 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,200 Speaker 2: is made into different things there and they do a 1346 01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,639 Speaker 2: really nice job. And far as the bacon goes, Von 1347 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 2: Hanson's is really hard to beat. I mean it really 1348 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:10,640 Speaker 2: really is. That's awesome bacon. But it's expensive when you 1349 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:15,840 Speaker 2: have trim process. It's spending and maybe that dissuades some 1350 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,240 Speaker 2: people too. But if you've got trim that you don't want, 1351 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 2: I'll take it. 1352 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1353 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,120 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that I'll take any trim 1354 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 4: you don't want. 1355 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:33,639 Speaker 2: And you know, both Eric and Chad we will. We shoot, 1356 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 2: we shoot bucks. But recently there's a guy out in 1357 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,439 Speaker 2: front of my place with a net out. 1358 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 4: I got it. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. 1359 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,759 Speaker 3: What's he get? Can you see what he's catching? 1360 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,559 Speaker 2: Both standing up? I saw the net come out, and 1361 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 2: it had to be a good one. I'm guessing. Oh, 1362 01:21:55,640 --> 01:22:01,480 Speaker 2: I can't tell. I haven't got my binoculars out, my my, 1363 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:06,920 Speaker 2: my long eyes. I forgot what I was saying. Anyway, 1364 01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,559 Speaker 2: But we do, we do, the three of us. Our 1365 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 2: family does shoot anteles deer. 1366 01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:11,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1367 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you know, because you get some of that 1368 01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 2: time to time. 1369 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 4: Quite quite grateful for any antler list deer or or 1370 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,559 Speaker 4: antler deer that comes with venice in my direction. 1371 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree as stan is too. I mean, people 1372 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 2: don't misunderstand that man because he loves wild game and 1373 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,320 Speaker 2: he just has he said he doesn't have the killing 1374 01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 2: gene in him and when we'll ask him, but he 1375 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 2: is not against hunting whatsoever. He really really is enjoys it. 1376 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 2: And some of the stuff that he has been gifted 1377 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 2: he will keep until Thanksgiving and that will be his meal. 1378 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool. 1379 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 3: You said you're going pheasant hunting today. I am. 1380 01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:57,599 Speaker 6: I am. 1381 01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,120 Speaker 2: Chat is actually coming up this evening, and he and 1382 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 2: I are going to hunt tomorrow for the day and 1383 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 2: but I'll go out by myself and and just kind 1384 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 2: of wander around and see if we can put something up. 1385 01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,920 Speaker 2: I've only I have only shot four shells, and that 1386 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:17,000 Speaker 2: was on opening day. But I haven't missed yet, so 1387 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,599 Speaker 2: I guess my record is intact. 1388 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 3: How about you, Bob, I've shot. 1389 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:30,720 Speaker 4: My shooting percentage is not four for four. Yeah, I 1390 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:35,599 Speaker 4: think I'm one for four maybe right now, but we'll 1391 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 4: increase that percentage as the season goes. 1392 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,960 Speaker 2: Do you do you think, Bob by changing species as 1393 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,719 Speaker 2: often as you do, does that impact that you're shooting 1394 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 2: at all? 1395 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 3: I think probably a little bit. 1396 01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 4: I think there's I think I'm slow right now catching 1397 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,760 Speaker 4: up to pheasants. You know, if you just look at 1398 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 4: the flights of a woodcock or a grouse compared to 1399 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,439 Speaker 4: a pheasant, a pheasant can reach sixty miles an hour, 1400 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 4: and if it's windy, which it often is, uh, they 1401 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,960 Speaker 4: go a lot faster. So yeah, that's my excuse, do it, Archie. 1402 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 4: I've been swinging at softballs and when I go pheasant 1403 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,480 Speaker 4: and it's hard to catch up to those fastballs. 1404 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,519 Speaker 2: Well, we do appreciate you coming in today, my friend. Hey, 1405 01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,559 Speaker 2: I want to say thank you also to mister Danny 1406 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,640 Speaker 2: Fletcher of Fletcher's Peyton Tackle, and a huge thank you 1407 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 2: to Stan Tequila for giving us some extra time today. 1408 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 2: But thank you for allowing Bob and I and my 1409 01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 2: executive producer Brett Blakemore to come to accompany us and 1410 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 2: us on this journey we have so for Brett, for Bob, 1411 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,720 Speaker 2: Saint Pierre, I am Billy Hildebrand, wishing you a fantastic 1412 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 2: weekend and God we can't go Fishent. It's not bad 1413 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,720 Speaker 2: it's everybody's out there, dot