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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Nightcap on this Tuesday night, December ninth,
Speaker 3: somewhere between here and Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: As our opening guests.
Speaker 3: Tonight, we have the Congressman from the House of Representatives
Speaker 3: of the fourth District in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, my
Speaker 3: representative in Washington, d C. Thomas Massey, for a few
Speaker 3: minutes to start off tonight. We'll have some other stuff,
Speaker 3: but right now this is the important thing. Congressman Massey, Thomas,
Speaker 3: how are you, sir?
Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Cary, Jeff. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 4: I'm not tired of winning yet, but I did have
Speaker 4: a big win here recently. I got the Epstein Files
Speaker 4: Transparency Act passed in the House by a vote of
Speaker 4: four hundred and twenty seven to one, and it passed
Speaker 4: the Senate unanimously, which means one hundred to zero, and
Speaker 4: the President signed it immediately. And just today the second
Speaker 4: judge has ruled that they will release grand jury material
Speaker 4: that they had previously not released. There was a judge
Speaker 4: in Florida with the old Epstein case who ruled that
Speaker 4: he would release all the grand jury material. And then
Speaker 4: today to a judge who's over the Maxwell case, the
Speaker 4: recent Maxwell Gallaine Maxwell case, ruled that he will release
Speaker 4: the material. And it's all because this bill passed and
Speaker 4: then the deal. There's a third judge of the recent
Speaker 4: Epstein case in New York. We're waiting to hear what
Speaker 4: he's going to do, but we suspect since two federal
Speaker 4: judges have already said, look, Massey got the Epstein Files
Speaker 4: Transparency Act passed, This changes everything. We're going to release
Speaker 4: our materials. So we're waiting on that third judge what
Speaker 4: he will do. But in reality, the bulk of the
Speaker 4: material is at the DOJ, not in and the FBI
Speaker 4: not in this grand jury material.
Speaker 1: All right, So here here's my question.
Speaker 3: What about protections from some of the victims who don't
Speaker 3: want their names or their stories released.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is that still redacted. Is that still
Speaker 1: blocked out.
Speaker 4: Thomas, Yeah, that's written into our bill. We have a
Speaker 4: provision to allow for reactions of victims. Now, you can't
Speaker 4: redefine victim as some you know, man who's going to
Speaker 4: be embarrassed because he went to the Epstein Island. That's
Speaker 4: not a victim, but any woman who was sex trafficked
Speaker 4: or or girl for that man, or some of these
Speaker 4: females we're fourteen years old. All of those names will
Speaker 4: be redacted. And the judge who announced today he's going
Speaker 4: to release the grand jury material in the Glenne Maxwell
Speaker 4: case said that he's taking extra care to keep the victims'
Speaker 4: names redacted.
Speaker 3: President Trump today or this evening, spoke in Pennsylvania at
Speaker 3: one of those campaign style rallies that he likes to
Speaker 3: do when he's running, to tout the plans that and
Speaker 3: the things this administration has done to make life more affordable.
Speaker 3: The new a word in Washington, his affordability. You know,
Speaker 3: it started with the zoh Ranmandani promise of everything for
Speaker 3: free to every New Yorker that voted for him, which
Speaker 3: we know is illogical and can't happen unless it's some
Speaker 3: communist country. But what should the government role be in
Speaker 3: affordability in the first place?
Speaker 1: Thomas?
Speaker 3: How should the government be able to help people afford
Speaker 3: things that they need in their lives? Well, well, you
Speaker 3: know what you broke up there, Thomas.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry, can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, so answer affordability.
Speaker 4: Ye, let me start with what they shouldn't do. They
Speaker 4: should not do price fixing. You can't go in and
Speaker 4: say the price is going to be this, No, because
Speaker 4: the government doesn't know. The free market knows what the
Speaker 4: price should be. The government can make sure that the
Speaker 4: rules are written so that there's competition. We don't have
Speaker 4: affordability in the supermarket right now for meat because there's
Speaker 4: four meat packers that control eighty five percent of the
Speaker 4: meat that you can buy there. So one thing we
Speaker 4: could do for affordability is Past My Prime Act, which
Speaker 4: would allow farmers to use local processors, mom and pop processors,
Speaker 4: and sell their beef and port locally directly and bypass
Speaker 4: that oligarchy of meat processors. Okay, so one thing, that's
Speaker 4: one thing we can do, and you do that by
Speaker 4: lowering regulations, not no regulations, but right size the regulations.
Speaker 4: Right now, we've got scale prejudicial regulations, which means the
Speaker 4: big guys love the regulation because it keeps the little
Speaker 4: guys out. But the main thing we can do for affordability,
Speaker 4: Gary Jeff, is to quit spending so much frickin money
Speaker 4: we don't have and printing it. Inflation is insane. And
Speaker 4: then you've got that, you know, the US government is
Speaker 4: competing for capital because we're borrowing so much money, and
Speaker 4: they're the ones driving up interest rates. So affordability means
Speaker 4: how much interest are you paying on your mortgage and
Speaker 4: your car. And it also means is what's your real
Speaker 4: wage after inflation every year? So that's what we should
Speaker 4: be doing, spending less money so that we're not causing
Speaker 4: so much inflation.
Speaker 1: So the FED should lower the interest rates, right.
Speaker 4: I don't think the FED should exist.
Speaker 3: I agree with and we've had that conversation before. But
Speaker 3: as long as they do exist, they should lower the
Speaker 3: interest rates.
Speaker 4: They can lower interest rates. But here's what's happened. The
Speaker 4: foreign sovereign wealth funds that typically buy US debt have
Speaker 4: decided that four percent is not enough interest because we
Speaker 4: monetize too much of our debt and diluted, we're promising
Speaker 4: to pay back anybody who buys Treasury bonds with US
Speaker 4: dollars fifteen years from now, and they're saying, well, we
Speaker 4: don't think four percent is a good deal because we
Speaker 4: think you're going to inflate your dollar more than that
Speaker 4: year over year, and in fifteen years we will have
Speaker 4: not made any returns. So the FED could lower rates,
Speaker 4: but will the market follow those rates? Not really the
Speaker 4: Fed's ability to control interest. It's like a control stick
Speaker 4: that's connected with a rubber band and they've got that
Speaker 4: band stretched. You could stretch it some more and try
Speaker 4: to bring the rates down, but they're not in total control.
Speaker 3: Talking to Thomas Massey, Congressman Thomas Massey, my congressman, the
Speaker 3: guy vote for every two years, planning on doing it
Speaker 3: again unless he really really steems me in the next
Speaker 3: few minutes. No, Thomas here. So here's the thing. What
Speaker 3: about the so called double tap? These boats, these drug boats,
Speaker 3: according to the Administration narco terrorism vehicles in international waters
Speaker 3: they are unflagged. Does the President have the right to
Speaker 3: do what he is doing and the Department of Defense
Speaker 3: or Department of War have the right to do what
Speaker 3: they are doing in open international waters if they've got
Speaker 3: the intel and they know these people are transporting drugs
Speaker 3: to the United States because it's a threat to our country,
Speaker 3: a security threat. Do you believe that the President and
Speaker 3: the Department of Defense have the right to do what
Speaker 3: they're doing.
Speaker 4: Well, sorry for the bad pun, but the water is
Speaker 4: a little murky here.
Speaker 1: It's all the cocaine in the water that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the sharks are really listen. When when we go
Speaker 4: after terraces in the Middle East or elsewhere, there's an
Speaker 4: AUMF that authorizes authorization to use the military force. It's
Speaker 4: called the Global War on Terror and it was done
Speaker 4: long before I got to Congress, and it's still in effect.
Speaker 4: And so it's for al Qaeda and associates. But Congress
Speaker 4: authorized that and declared those to be terrorists and that
Speaker 4: the president could do those things. There's actually no such
Speaker 4: authorization for what's going on in Venezuela. And the concern
Speaker 4: that I have and Senator Ran Paul has too, is
Speaker 4: that this is more than about the cocaine. It's certainly
Speaker 4: not about fentanyl. Fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela. You know,
Speaker 4: why aren't we under the same rules you could attack
Speaker 4: boats from Mexico or boats from China to Mexico delivering
Speaker 4: the precursors for fentanyl. If that, if you're allowed to
Speaker 4: bomb any boat that's got drugs on it, yeah, it
Speaker 4: gets and it gets murky because and I'm not taking
Speaker 4: up for anybody who's running drugs in the Caribbean at all,
Speaker 4: but the double tap gets murky because this is somewhere
Speaker 4: between a military exercise and a police exercise. I talked
Speaker 4: to veterans who said, you know, in Afghanistan or Iraq,
Speaker 4: if you blew up a convoy and there were some survivors,
Speaker 4: you know, let's say a military convoy with machine guns
Speaker 4: and tanks and whatever, you go back and you take
Speaker 4: them all out. You don't go in and arrest them.
Speaker 4: I think what's what leaves a bad taste in people's mouths,
Speaker 4: and mine included here is that this is somewhere between
Speaker 4: a military action and a police action. And if you
Speaker 4: were a police and you were pulling over a drug
Speaker 4: you say you were doing a drug bust, and you
Speaker 4: had disabled the drug dealer's ability to distribute the drugs,
Speaker 4: maybe destroyed all the drugs, and they were still the
Speaker 4: car driver or the boat driver or whatever. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying they're innocent, but there are different degrees of culpability.
Speaker 4: The police wouldn't go back and put double taps in everybody.
Speaker 4: So this is that's why this is murky. Okay, there's
Speaker 4: a there's not a congressional authorization. The premise here that
Speaker 4: I think is a little bit disingenuous. I do think
Speaker 4: that the president is trying to and the State Department
Speaker 4: is trying to exact regime change in vent and this
Speaker 4: is somewhat of a police action that's been categorized as
Speaker 4: a military action and it's being carried out by the military.
Speaker 1: I got you.
Speaker 3: I don't think that anybody, I don't think that Pete
Speaker 3: Hegseth should be drummed out of office or arrested for
Speaker 3: international war crimes for what they're doing. I understand that you,
Speaker 3: as you well stated, it's a murky situation without the
Speaker 3: authorization of Congress, but they do have some power.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 3: The Supreme Court is deciding whether these tariffs can be
Speaker 3: kept in place that the Trump administration. I know you've
Speaker 3: been an anti tariff guy for the most part so far.
Speaker 4: What do you think think we should I think we
Speaker 4: should vote on them, by the way, if we could
Speaker 4: go back to the first one hundred and fifty years
Speaker 4: of this country, where we didn't have an income tax.
Speaker 4: We didn't have an income tax until the sixteenth Amendment
Speaker 4: was passed.
Speaker 1: Nineteen thirteen or something like that.
Speaker 4: And yes, very bad years FED came into existence, the
Speaker 4: income tax came into existence, and they began direct electing
Speaker 4: senators and senators and quit working for the states. They
Speaker 4: became basically a house of representatives that run every six years. Anyways,
Speaker 4: those were three bad things that happened in nineteen thirteen.
Speaker 4: But if we can go back prior to nineteen thirteen,
Speaker 4: over ninety percent of our revenue came from tariffs and
Speaker 4: there was no income tax, and I would be okay
Speaker 4: with going back to that. It's not that I'm against tariffs.
Speaker 4: You'll get Honestly, you're going to get less of whatever
Speaker 4: you tax. So if you tax a person's labor, you
Speaker 4: probably do less labor or they're less inclined to do
Speaker 4: the labor. If you tax consumption of foreign goods, there'll
Speaker 4: be less consumption of foreign goods. And I think trade
Speaker 4: is good, but I'm not like a religious zealot about
Speaker 4: free trade. You got to collect the money somewhere, all right.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing Congress has in specifically, the House
Speaker 4: of Representatives has the taxing authority. That's in the Constitution.
Speaker 4: It says that the Congress shall set the taxes, an
Speaker 4: any bill dealing with taxes has to originate in the House.
Speaker 4: Even well, if you think about the context in which
Speaker 4: that was written, the founding fathers anticipated that taxes would
Speaker 4: be tariffs and exercise taxes on products, and so they
Speaker 4: always intended for Congress to weigh in. So the question
Speaker 4: is can the president using authority delegated to him in
Speaker 4: the seventies nineteen seventies by Congress. Was Congress allowed to
Speaker 4: delegate that to him? And is he using that appropriately?
Speaker 4: Here's what I think they might say. They might say that, yes,
Speaker 4: the power resides in Congress, but Congress is sitting there
Speaker 4: doing nothing. They haven't taken a vote on it in
Speaker 4: the House, hm, and so Congress has abdicated their role
Speaker 4: in this. They might the Supreme Court might say that
Speaker 4: and leave that authority to the president. I don't know
Speaker 4: what they're going to say, but I know that the
Speaker 4: Constitution says that we should be voting on these things
Speaker 4: in the House. And if they would give me a
Speaker 4: vote that says, Okay, for every dollar of tariff we collect,
Speaker 4: we're going to reduce the income tax on individuals.
Speaker 1: I vote for that, and I would be happy that
Speaker 1: you were voting for that.
Speaker 3: Thomas Massey, thank you so much for your time, and
Speaker 3: get back on your trip to Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Do some good work.
Speaker 4: All right, We're headed there, Thanks Garry, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yes, Thomas Massey running again for the fourth district seat
Speaker 3: in the House of Representatives, and I am going to
Speaker 3: vote for him again. I just can't stop news on
Speaker 3: the way in a few.
Speaker 1: As a confidence killer.
Speaker 4: You can have the best outfit, the sharpest resume, the
Speaker 4: funniest jokes, but if your breath smells like the food
Speaker 4: you just date, that's all people remember.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is once again sports were they out of sorts?
Speaker 3: Although in these segments with this guy, we sometimes we
Speaker 3: dripped off away from sports, which I think is fine
Speaker 3: for me and fine for you and fine for him.
Speaker 3: Let's find out if that is the case. Tonight we
Speaker 3: welcome into the night Cap Layer, the one and only
Speaker 3: four ball Andy Furman and Andy I had a question
Speaker 3: to start.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind, you might just doo.
Speaker 5: Okay, you are supposed to interview me in a sense,
Speaker 5: right or conversation whatever? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I thought that's what we were doing. Anyway,
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you what kind of shape are
Speaker 3: you in? Because I don't think that I'm in the
Speaker 3: best shape in the world. But yesterday or over the weekend,
Speaker 3: we had the Health Secretary, Robert Kennedyjunior, and the Transportation
Speaker 3: Secretary in the airport doing pull ups and I can't
Speaker 3: remember the last time I did a pull up?
Speaker 1: Do you do pull ups? Offten? Andy? And in your
Speaker 1: regiment of workout and fitness, I.
Speaker 5: Still pay about it. No, I tell you what, I
Speaker 5: have to commend you for admitting that you're in really
Speaker 5: bad shape. No, I'm not in really mentally and physically
Speaker 5: mentally physics, not.
Speaker 1: In really bad shape. Andy. I forgot my phone two
Speaker 1: days in a row. But that's it.
Speaker 5: That's the mental part of it. In the physical part,
Speaker 5: I I am not you, And they say wow.
Speaker 1: I am Wow. I'm not obesely overweight.
Speaker 5: You don't have to be obviously have a wait to
Speaker 5: be in physically bad shape. You could be like underweight too.
Speaker 5: You just you just don't look put together. Well, okay,
Speaker 5: And I can tell you that as a friend, and
Speaker 5: then I never would have said that to you except
Speaker 5: that you brought it up, so you know, friends, of honestly, we.
Speaker 3: Were talking about me, you idiot, We were talking about you.
Speaker 1: What kind of shape for you?
Speaker 5: Now? Are I piggy stop it? All right? Really?
Speaker 1: So what kind of shape were you in? That's what
Speaker 1: I want to know.
Speaker 5: I would have to say that I made a commitment
Speaker 5: to myself New Year's last year, last year that I
Speaker 5: would not miss because I used to do the deal.
Speaker 5: I used to run. I at least a love running,
Speaker 5: and I ran in a couple of flying pigs and
Speaker 5: you know ten k's and everything, the whole deal. But
Speaker 5: I've did a lot of them. I used to run
Speaker 5: every single day at the Cincinnati Athletic Club indoors. And
Speaker 5: then I had some problems with my hip, and then
Speaker 5: I had some problems with my other hip, and I
Speaker 5: had two hip surgeries, and I asked the doctor can
Speaker 5: I continue running? And he already says to me, yeah,
Speaker 5: of course you can, but if you do, you'd be
Speaker 5: coming back to see me again. So I was kind
Speaker 5: of at a loss for like what to do, and summertime.
Speaker 5: I love to swim, so swimming was great, and even
Speaker 5: said swimming was good. But I got myself one of
Speaker 5: those bikes, and at the beginning of the year I started,
Speaker 5: and I honestly, I don't think I've missed ten days. Really,
Speaker 5: I don't think I missed ten days since the first
Speaker 5: of the year. I do an hour and fifteen minutes
Speaker 5: every single day, and most of the days I try
Speaker 5: to do it at four o'clock in the afternoon, so
Speaker 5: I do it well. I watch Judge Judy. I enjoy
Speaker 5: Judge Judy.
Speaker 1: Whoa you watch Judge Judy?
Speaker 5: I was, I was following.
Speaker 3: Along with you. Well depending on where you're at Channel twenty.
Speaker 3: That the numbers change all depending on what service you
Speaker 3: have or anything else. That's not the point. The point
Speaker 3: is you're watching. You're a grown man and you're watching
Speaker 3: Judge Judy every day.
Speaker 1: What do you love about? What are you like?
Speaker 5: She's just she's straightforward, she isn't taking a guff and
Speaker 5: you know she said this guy, I don't believe you.
Speaker 5: I don't believe you, I mean.
Speaker 1: And she's just andy And you know none of that's real.
Speaker 5: Yes it is.
Speaker 1: It's on TV it's not real.
Speaker 5: And dare you, how dare you challenge Judge Judy.
Speaker 4: I can't believe you.
Speaker 3: You're probably going to probably going to give full respect
Speaker 3: to John Cena's laugh wrestling about that he's about.
Speaker 5: To just Judy is a different because professional for forty
Speaker 5: freaking years.
Speaker 3: Come on now, really, Judge Judy is professional wrestling for
Speaker 3: for old people who.
Speaker 5: Profession I am writing her, and I've written to her before.
Speaker 5: I'm going to write her and tell her you said that.
Speaker 5: And I want a letter from her to say the
Speaker 5: whole deal that it's true, and then after that and
Speaker 5: show it to you. I want you to apologize to her.
Speaker 5: I want you to apologize. Matter of fact, you want
Speaker 5: to get her on as a guest, you should get
Speaker 5: her on your show as a guest. And if you
Speaker 5: can't do it, I'm going to try to do.
Speaker 1: It to make fun of her.
Speaker 5: No, no, I would. I would not be assuming you
Speaker 5: know what they say, all people that assume you're assuming
Speaker 5: that she's a fraud, And I can't handle you saying that. Now.
Speaker 5: Maybe she is, but I doubt it.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you don't understand she's not a fraud.
Speaker 3: But the show is the premises.
Speaker 5: The real life days.
Speaker 1: There is no.
Speaker 3: Such thing as reality TV. If you hear reality TV
Speaker 3: in any court, their appearances, it's all the same andy
Speaker 3: from Jerry Springer to Judge Judy.
Speaker 5: No, it's not. I didn't want to continue this conversation.
Speaker 5: You're making me want to gag. Really, Jerry Springer, may
Speaker 5: he rest in peace. I love them to death.
Speaker 3: Wheel Buddies and the show was completely fraud it's.
Speaker 5: Right, but don't put in the same league's Judge Judy. Please.
Speaker 5: That was a comedy of errors. That show. Really come on,
Speaker 5: But this is a real live court cases, you know,
Speaker 5: and there's stupid cases and I enjoy them like a
Speaker 5: dog poops on someone's lawn and they take them to court. Okay, well,
Speaker 5: my tree was growing over on your side of the lawn,
Speaker 5: on the side of the fence. I cut it off,
Speaker 5: and you're suing me because I cut you a tree.
Speaker 5: But it was on my side of the road or
Speaker 5: my sart of the fence. Those are real cases. They're
Speaker 5: not they're not frauds. I mean, you know, I got you.
Speaker 5: I'm pregnant when she was drunk. I mean, come on, really,
Speaker 5: with the fights, there's no fights watch it one day
Speaker 5: and you'll see and you'll wake up. Come on, really,
Speaker 5: give me a break. And I don't want to get
Speaker 5: into this discussion. When you were talking about body shape,
Speaker 5: now that's what we were doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were, and you still.
Speaker 5: I'm a pretty good Yeah. I wave myself this morning.
Speaker 5: I was one seventy three, which I think is pretty good.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're you're a tad shorter than I am
Speaker 3: and I am about one seven.
Speaker 5: What's your height?
Speaker 3: Well, it used to be about five eleven, but I've
Speaker 3: been shrinking apparently over the last twenty years.
Speaker 5: I'm about five nine and a half. I used to
Speaker 5: be five to ten. I'm shrinking too a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you Are you shrinking? Are you shrinking in
Speaker 3: other places? Other areas?
Speaker 5: I shrunk two years ago, being below the waist.
Speaker 1: Yes, I won't say that. You said that, but okay.
Speaker 5: I never had anything much there.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Furman and the field mouse and what the parrots saw, we.
Speaker 5: Get off this topic. I'm about this because is aggravating me.
Speaker 5: I'm beginning to smids right now. Let's move on.
Speaker 3: I tell you what, Why don't you take a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes to towel off and we'll come back more
Speaker 3: with Andy Furman in just a moment on the ninth
Speaker 3: cap on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 6: So, Andy, you.
Speaker 3: At a request, and I don't know that it's fitting
Speaker 3: or appropriate yet, because the Bengals are not eliminated mathematically
Speaker 3: from the playoffs. If they finish eight and nine and
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and Baltimore also finish eight and nine or worse,
Speaker 3: and you never know what the Ravens, they have totally collapsed. Andy,
Speaker 3: the Bengals could, by virtue of their in division record,
Speaker 3: win the AFC North and then they're in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But you thought that maybe we should go ahead and
Speaker 3: have the funeral.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: You know what, though, I really enjoy what you have
Speaker 5: to say. It's not that you're positive and upbeat. I
Speaker 5: want to know what you're smoking because I want some
Speaker 5: of it, really, I really do. There are many people
Speaker 5: out there who say that the Bengals were eliminated in August. Really,
Speaker 5: so forget it. Because to make the playoffs, the Bengals
Speaker 5: go now four and nine, they obviously have to win
Speaker 5: out the remaining four games to get help. Help by
Speaker 5: the Pittsburgh Steelers losing most of their final games, as
Speaker 5: winning the AFC one is not only the realistic path
Speaker 5: with wild card Hope's nearly gone after the Week fourteen loss. Okay,
Speaker 5: they got to win their final four games, and they're
Speaker 5: playing Baltimore at Miami Arizona, which is a possibility in
Speaker 5: Cleveland's Arizona and Cleveland. I think it is a possibility,
Speaker 5: But this team, the way I saw them play the
Speaker 5: other day, I don't see it happening. Ravens is possibil
Speaker 5: They could win three, they could win three of the four,
Speaker 5: but they need such help down the road, and three
Speaker 5: of the four is not going to make it for
Speaker 5: him anyway. So and look, I'm not rooting against them.
Speaker 5: I want to be realistic. I just want to see
Speaker 5: them win. And I'll tell you why not because I'm
Speaker 5: a great fan and a tailgate and go crazy with
Speaker 5: them when they when they lose like some people do. No,
Speaker 5: I think it's great for the city. The city is
Speaker 5: more upbeat on a Monday after they win on Sunday.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. It's great economically, it's great for restaurants, bars,
Speaker 5: everything to do with the city. It's great. Everybody's in
Speaker 5: a happier mood, and that's why I want them to win. Economically,
Speaker 5: it is better. I look at the money aspect, and
Speaker 5: that's that's what it's all about. When they lose his
Speaker 5: finger pointing, it's negativity. It's fired this guy. I never
Speaker 5: want to see people get fired. I don't think it's
Speaker 5: great to have you know what I call beer muscles,
Speaker 5: sit behind the microphone and say Zach Taylor should be fired.
Speaker 5: I know. I don't want to see anybody get fired. No,
Speaker 5: it's not it's not right. It's justally this time of
Speaker 5: the year. So winning is good and winning is healthy.
Speaker 5: I want to see it happen here. And I'll tell
Speaker 5: you this much. Zach Taylor is a good guy. He is.
Speaker 5: He's got some bad luck he's got.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think there's any question of the
Speaker 3: man's character as a person, as a human being. He's
Speaker 3: probably a wonderful man. But a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of wonderful men aren't cut out to be head coaches
Speaker 3: in the NFL, and Zach Taylor happens to be one
Speaker 3: of those men who are.
Speaker 5: And it's funny you say that because I look at
Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski and I think he's a heck of a coach.
Speaker 5: Heck of a coach. You know what, you don't have
Speaker 5: a quarterback in the National Football League, you ain't gonna win.
Speaker 5: They have nothing. They have nothing in Cleveland. Stefanski is
Speaker 5: a pretty damn good coach. What about John Harbor not
Speaker 5: a good coach? In Baltimore? I mean, Lamar Jackson's got
Speaker 5: like one leg. I mean, if you don't have a quarterback,
Speaker 5: you're not gonna win. And I will tell you this
Speaker 5: much the outstanding coaches right now, and I see Ben
Speaker 5: Johnson's wan hell of a coach. What he has done
Speaker 5: in Chicago.
Speaker 1: He lost, He lost this weekend too.
Speaker 5: No no doubt about it. But look good. They won
Speaker 5: nine games and coming into the season, his quarterback said,
Speaker 5: Chicago is a place for this unused quarterbacks, the quarterback
Speaker 5: haven for for death. All right, look what he's done.
Speaker 5: He's turned that program around. Him and Mike Vrabel probably
Speaker 5: the two best coaches in the National Football League, and
Speaker 5: one of those two is going to be Coach of
Speaker 5: the Year this year, most likely Rabel. I think, well
Speaker 5: maybe Johnson, because Rabel had a truck regular doing well
Speaker 5: prior to coming to New England. Where Ben Johnson. This
Speaker 5: is his first year as a head coach.
Speaker 3: Okay, you say all that, and you mentioned John Harball
Speaker 3: and Mike Tomlin. Damn good coach, just not having a
Speaker 3: great year.
Speaker 1: And you've got to have a quarter his quarterback.
Speaker 5: You gotta have quarterback. Really, I mean, if you don't
Speaker 5: have a quarterback, that position is so.
Speaker 1: Old I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about over the extended period of time they
Speaker 3: have been had coaches. Zach Taylor still as a losing record.
Speaker 3: He didn't win a super Bowl. He got he rode
Speaker 3: the coat tails of Joe Burrow to a seatout.
Speaker 5: He didn't win a super Bowl. He made it to
Speaker 5: the super Bowl.
Speaker 3: John Harball won a super Bowl and Cleveland and they
Speaker 3: never win.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who the coach is or the quarterback.
Speaker 5: It's Cleveland quarterback since they moved.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. I can't find the correct quarterback. That's
Speaker 5: the problem.
Speaker 3: They can't find their behind with two hands, a flashlight
Speaker 3: and a full length mirror.
Speaker 5: And I'm about to Pittsburgh for a second. I love
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin and he's a Hall of Fame coach.
Speaker 1: He's coached, won a Super Bowl, won a super Bowl.
Speaker 5: To get about super bowls out talk about winning records
Speaker 5: and going to the playoffs. Super Bowls is a very
Speaker 5: difficult thing to obtain. You know, the fans in Cincinnati
Speaker 5: after the Bengals made it to the Super Bowl, they
Speaker 5: thought they were going to go on a run. It
Speaker 5: doesn't work that way. Injuries are a factor, and the
Speaker 5: competition is just too tough. It's very tough to repeat.
Speaker 5: And the more they see that, the more they realize
Speaker 5: what a great coach Bill Belichick was, what a great
Speaker 5: coach he was.
Speaker 3: You're right, You're right about one thing, Andy, Well, you're
Speaker 3: right about several things. But the one thing you were
Speaker 3: right about is that competition is tough in the NFL.
Speaker 4: It is the league set up like that?
Speaker 5: Because if you you get the first trag.
Speaker 3: And Zach Taylor, and Zach Taylor gets out coached in
Speaker 3: almost every.
Speaker 1: Game, what does that mean?
Speaker 5: You know what? I hear that term all the time.
Speaker 5: I won't know what does that mean? Out coached? Is
Speaker 5: a coach playing this the other coach? Tell me what
Speaker 5: that mean? Was he out coached? When when Joe Burrow
Speaker 5: through two interceptions? Is that being out coached. Tell me
Speaker 5: I want to know, because I think it's a term
Speaker 5: that's thrown out there verbatim by many people, sports people
Speaker 5: and nonsports people. The thing is a cool thing to say, Well,
Speaker 5: yeah it is.
Speaker 3: It is clock, It is clock management. It is the
Speaker 3: use of timeouts. It is decisions that are made. It
Speaker 3: is whether there are halftime adjustments made. And the Bengals
Speaker 3: hardly ever make good halftime adjustments going into the second half.
Speaker 3: I mean, they were clearly a leader in the first half,
Speaker 3: But who made the adjustments. The Buffalo Bills made the adjustments.
Speaker 1: Plus they were at an adjustments that they made.
Speaker 3: Plus they don't have much. Plus they have a better
Speaker 3: coach than Zach Taylor. Sean McDermott.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this much. I'll give you this. There
Speaker 5: was a problem the coaching stide of the Bengals. They
Speaker 5: played Manton man defense and the secondary against a great
Speaker 5: quarterback and Josh Allen, okay, gotta play. Don't you'll play
Speaker 5: man man out, coach, It's not out coach. It was
Speaker 5: a philosophy they used, and they wanted to play Manton man.
Speaker 3: Out, philosophized out, philotsified whatever you want to call it Andy.
Speaker 5: It didn't work. It didn't work.
Speaker 3: Zack Taylor is a night Let's just go back to
Speaker 3: the beginning and let's finish this on a positive note.
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor is a nice man. And and
Speaker 1: that's where all ended. Right there. He's a nice I.
Speaker 5: Will tell you that. No, no, don't end it right there.
Speaker 5: Because man teams in the National Football League. I don't
Speaker 5: think there's much of a difference in football knowledge beatween
Speaker 5: coach one and coach thirty two. There isn't. It's all
Speaker 5: about personnel and talented quarterbacks. That's where it's at. And
Speaker 5: you know what, I know, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 5: You got a quarterback, you got a chance to win.
Speaker 5: Bengals couldn't win. They got Joe Borrow, they won. He
Speaker 5: got hurt and there's some problems on the defensive side
Speaker 5: of the ball. Boom, that's what's going on. It's not
Speaker 5: the coaching. It isn't believe me, it's not the coach.
Speaker 5: I promise you.
Speaker 1: Well, let's you know.
Speaker 3: And since we already played tabs, which I was really against,
Speaker 3: let's not dance on their grave now.
Speaker 5: Okay, Andy, I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 3: Let's not whistle past the graveyard. Let's not whistle past
Speaker 3: the graveyard. Let's just move on God all right for
Speaker 3: a ball? Thanks, It's the Nightcap and there's much more
Speaker 3: ahead on seven underd W l w Our hour of
Speaker 3: Sports for the out of Sorts continues now with the
Speaker 3: original sports commando, the guy on the Billboard. When's he
Speaker 3: going back? A big, big gang member and the guy
Speaker 3: that people knew it Annie's as the wild Man. In fact,
Speaker 3: we all knew him as a wild Man because that's
Speaker 3: his name, wild Man Walker is back on the Nightcap.
Speaker 3: How you doing, man?
Speaker 6: I'm doing good. Gary, Jeff? How about you Pal?
Speaker 3: You know, hanging in there as best I can. Got
Speaker 3: a lot to do with Christmas coming up and everything,
Speaker 3: and it's just I love this time of year, but
Speaker 3: I hate it at the same time because there's so
Speaker 3: much stuff that gets crammed into a little bit of
Speaker 3: amount of time. And I don't do a lot of
Speaker 3: Christmas shopping because I don't have a lot of money
Speaker 3: and it's just me and my wife. Basically, what do
Speaker 3: you get my parents they're eighty nine and eighty eight,
Speaker 3: and they have everything that they could possibly want or need,
Speaker 3: so we're gonna we're gonna try and visit them overnight
Speaker 3: on Christmas.
Speaker 1: But other than that, But I mean, it's just.
Speaker 3: Don't you feel like it's really hurried and harried for
Speaker 3: a lot of people this time and you're just trying
Speaker 3: to squeeze things in before the beginning of the year.
Speaker 6: I think it's been that way since the birth of
Speaker 6: the internet for some reason. Yeah, people people shopping online
Speaker 6: and then going to the stores also, But it is
Speaker 6: just the way everybody wants something. They want everything. Everybody
Speaker 6: wants everything real quick. Everything, I gotta have it now,
Speaker 6: I gotta have it now. It's like everybody just, you know,
Speaker 6: take it, take a deep breath, man, and relax, you know,
Speaker 6: especially during the Christmas season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like when there's a new iPhone or something and
Speaker 3: people lined up around the block.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a phone.
Speaker 3: You gotta have it, you gotta have it now, and
Speaker 3: you got to have it first before anybody else. And
Speaker 3: then you're standing in line like a bunch of dorks.
Speaker 6: Or sheep sheep.
Speaker 1: Out in the cold.
Speaker 3: The only difference between the only difference between them and
Speaker 3: sheep sheep actually have a fur coat that they can
Speaker 3: wear when it's this cold when it's as cold, all right,
Speaker 3: So let's get to the meat of the matter here,
Speaker 3: the crux of the conversation. As we like to say,
Speaker 3: the Bengals are done, except they're not.
Speaker 6: Exactly. There's still a slight chance for the Bengals to
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, but it's gonna take almost a couple
Speaker 6: of teams to cooperate and the Bengals to win out.
Speaker 6: I mean, they've got to beat the Ravens this Sunday.
Speaker 6: Then they gotta go down to Miami, who's playing a
Speaker 6: little bit better, and beat the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: By the way that that game has now been flexed,
Speaker 3: the Miami game, it's gonna be probably a one o'clock
Speaker 3: game now it has.
Speaker 6: Been changed back to one o'clock. Then they've got to
Speaker 6: beat Arizona, who stings, and also the Browns with Tradura
Speaker 6: sanders Uh at the at pay Horse Stadium.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's entirely possible.
Speaker 3: The Bengals could run the table with the teams they've
Speaker 3: got left, win four in a row. They're eight and nine, Okay,
Speaker 3: Baltimore takes another loss. If Baltimore is also eight and nine,
Speaker 3: were God forbid and Ravens country seven and ten and
Speaker 3: the Steelers are eight and nine. The Bengals have a
Speaker 3: better division record, so they would be the representative from
Speaker 3: the AFC North in the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Right, they would win a tiebreaker. And then when I'm
Speaker 6: looking at the Ravens schedule of who they got to
Speaker 6: play and also the Steelers, I think the Ravens still.
Speaker 1: Have to play the Patriots. Oh, and the Steelers have.
Speaker 6: To play the Lions. I mean, so that I could
Speaker 6: work in favor for the Bengals. And of course the
Speaker 6: final game of the year, the Ravens play the Steelers
Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh, which could determine the bengals fate. You know,
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is not unbeatable. I mean, they're okay, and I
Speaker 6: would think the Ravens would want to go out on
Speaker 6: the winning note to knock them off, which would help
Speaker 6: the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Well, what I think would be good is the Bengals
Speaker 3: run the table these final four games Baltimore. One of
Speaker 3: the losses is Baltimore's tagged on their end. Pittsburgh loses
Speaker 3: and uh, and then the Steelers and Ravens play to
Speaker 3: a tie.
Speaker 6: Well play to a tie. That's now that that's reaching.
Speaker 6: That that's reaching, that's reaching. But there's still there's still
Speaker 6: a slight chance. And you know, the guys have you know,
Speaker 6: I know there's there's there's a couple of talking heads
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say who they are that that
Speaker 6: went on the air Sunday night and said, what do
Speaker 6: the Bengals have to play for?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Why would you make a dumb comment like that? What
Speaker 6: do the Bengals have to play for? Well, number one,
Speaker 6: they're professionals, and number two, they don't want to lose.
Speaker 6: They're not going out there just want to lose.
Speaker 5: They want to win.
Speaker 6: I don't care if you're fifteen, you want you're gonna
Speaker 6: go out there and try to win. The BIGA comment,
Speaker 6: what do the Bengals have to play for? Well, obviously
Speaker 6: they don't really know what the hell they're talking about.
Speaker 3: What did Hey, what did the Tennessee Titans have to
Speaker 3: play for on Sunday? It's a game on the schedule.
Speaker 3: That's why you play the game because it's on the
Speaker 3: schedule and you're obligated to do it.
Speaker 1: And as a man, an.
Speaker 3: Athlete, someone who was proud, you want to win every
Speaker 3: time you go out no matter what your record is
Speaker 3: I mean right right, and if.
Speaker 6: You half assid you might be unemployed next year?
Speaker 3: You should be if you're half assn't it at those
Speaker 3: salary ranges? Uh so, Yeah, I think that's an extremely,
Speaker 3: uh nonsensical comment for someone to make.
Speaker 6: I considered idiotic when I heard them say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, nonsensical, idiotic. Okay, I'll go with that, no kidd.
Speaker 3: So what about the college football playoffs setup? I'm still
Speaker 3: I understand and yet I don't. They couldn't let a
Speaker 3: fifth SEC team in. But Vanderbilt Commodores deserve to be
Speaker 3: there as as much as anybody else outside of maybe
Speaker 3: the top four, don't you think?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: I think they deserved it. I think Notre Dame deserved it,
Speaker 6: even though they lost to Miami. But you know, and
Speaker 6: I you know, I see James Madison in there. But
Speaker 6: that's the way the conferences are. I just like James Madison,
Speaker 6: what the hell do you know?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 6: Like they have no chance?
Speaker 1: Might as might as well be Dolly Madison.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, a Notre Dame. To me, they really did
Speaker 6: a disservice to their to their players and their alumni.
Speaker 6: But not playing in some kind of bowl game, I mean,
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a big deal. I'm not going to
Speaker 6: understand they're upset, okay, whatever, but just just to say no, no,
Speaker 6: And then and they made a big stink about how
Speaker 6: you know, how they may not how they may ever
Speaker 6: men ever play another bowl game again, I think that's
Speaker 6: the sour grapes. And then they should be playing a
Speaker 6: bowl game somewhere because those fans would show up, They
Speaker 6: would make the school would make money, the players would
Speaker 6: get another chance to win a game and be showcase
Speaker 6: where scouts to possibly playing on the National Football League.
Speaker 3: On their parts, the wild man, it's it's the same
Speaker 3: old thing with the Irish. When are they going to
Speaker 3: get off of their butts and go ahead and join
Speaker 3: one of these.
Speaker 1: Huge conference they have exactly.
Speaker 3: You know what, and this is a positive thing, is
Speaker 3: that finally Notre Dame may be forced if they want
Speaker 3: to be considered for the college football playoff system, to
Speaker 3: join a conference and have to play the same level
Speaker 3: of competition that the people in the SEC do on
Speaker 3: a week to week basis during the conference schedule Big Ten,
Speaker 3: all of the the Big twelve, they have to play
Speaker 3: the teams that matter, so they will in fact matter
Speaker 3: in the ultimate analysis.
Speaker 1: You think that's right?
Speaker 6: The bright side, yeah, well, but on the bright side,
Speaker 6: you see is going to a bowl game, woo the
Speaker 6: Liberty Bowl and of all places one of the worst
Speaker 6: cities of the Memphis. Have fun people going to Memphis.
Speaker 6: And why didn't you see a Navy play? Now, Miami
Speaker 6: of Ohio is playing the Fredsno State. They're playing in
Speaker 6: the Snoop Dog Bowl, which is kind of a goofy,
Speaker 6: goofy name, and I'm going to get to that in
Speaker 6: a minute. But they're playing in Arizona. But you see
Speaker 6: in the Liberty Bowl against Navy, I got big word
Speaker 6: for you.
Speaker 3: Well well, and and the and the real downside to this,
Speaker 3: wild man is that they may very well get beat
Speaker 3: by Navy because Navy had a really good year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but how about some of the you know, we
Speaker 6: grew up Gary, Jeff, me, you and I with the
Speaker 6: Orange Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, the Gator Bowl.
Speaker 1: The Peach Bowl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's it's out of control. I mean, here's
Speaker 6: some names. You're gonna just crack up. Here's some of
Speaker 6: the names I found that they've got bowl games. Now, okay,
Speaker 6: buckled up, l a Bowl, the Xbox Bowl, Sign of
Speaker 6: the times?
Speaker 3: What else? Oh, wild Man disappeared? I tell you what
Speaker 3: we will. We will get him back on the line
Speaker 3: in just a moment. He was on a roll too,
Speaker 3: So wild Man's back on the line. Now. You were
Speaker 3: giving me some of the new fangled bowl game names.
Speaker 1: I think you stopped. You dropped out of the X Bowl.
Speaker 3: What what else can we look forward to this college
Speaker 3: football bowl season?
Speaker 1: Wild Man?
Speaker 6: The Rate Bowl, r A D, the Rate Bowl, the
Speaker 6: Pop Tarts Ball where the Snoop dogg Arizona Ball? Come on, Man, Tony,
Speaker 6: the Tiger Suck Bowl, the Cheese its Citrus Bawl. I mean,
Speaker 6: it just never ends, It just never ends. Well, college
Speaker 6: football is a mess.
Speaker 3: They ought to find a sponsor that more readily matches
Speaker 3: up to citrus than cheese. It's cheese. It's and citrus
Speaker 3: sound awful together. I mean, I don't. I don't want
Speaker 3: my fresh squeeze orange juice with cheese. It's I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: it just doesn't sound like my cup of tea.
Speaker 1: Pardon the pun. The Pop Tarts Bowl, of course, that's classic.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the college football is a complete mess. I mean
Speaker 6: the playoffs system. I don't think they'll ever have. That
Speaker 6: will never be perfect, but it is what it is
Speaker 6: with the twelve teams. And maybe they don't hear they'll
Speaker 6: expanded the sixteen. But you can't have you.
Speaker 3: Can't have you can't have computers deciding who's number one
Speaker 3: and number two. You've got to play it on the field,
Speaker 3: I think. And maybe they should just open it up.
Speaker 3: And the entire month of December is nothing but play
Speaker 3: in games for the for the actual playoff.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: Well, it's all it's all about the money. It's all
Speaker 6: about the money. And then maybe they're thinking down the
Speaker 6: road and they'll do that because it's all about the
Speaker 6: money in college football. Like I said, college football is
Speaker 6: a mess with the nil signings and them and whatnot,
Speaker 6: and it's just a mess, it really is.
Speaker 1: So were the Reds mess?
Speaker 6: Well, the Reds aren't a mess, but they still need
Speaker 6: a power hitter. And I knew, damn well they weren't
Speaker 6: going to go out and signed Carl Schwarb or let
Speaker 6: us Man was not going to add thirty million dollars
Speaker 6: to the payroll. And I just laughed. I just laughed
Speaker 6: at these these know it all writers posting stuff up
Speaker 6: and something would stick that the Reds were interested. Kyle
Speaker 6: Swarber was never leaving Philadelphia. GM Dave Dombrowski said from
Speaker 6: day one that they wanted him to stay, that he
Speaker 6: was important to the team, that he loved Philadelphia, and
Speaker 6: they went out and took care and signed and signed
Speaker 6: him to a five year, one hundred and thirty million
Speaker 6: dollars deal. The Reds weren't going down that road. The Pirates, supposedly,
Speaker 6: if you could believe these know it all writers, offered
Speaker 6: him one hundred million dollars over four years. Maybe they did,
Speaker 6: I don't know, But the Reds they weren't gonna they
Speaker 6: weren't gonna add thirty million dollars to the payroll. Come on,
Speaker 6: that's not gonna happen. I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 3: Well, think about the Reds experience of the last thirty
Speaker 3: years of big time contracts and how those have wound
Speaker 3: up working out for the Reds.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I don't blame the Reds. Yeah, newskis Homer Bailey,
Speaker 6: I mean just down the line.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, and I understand Jeremy came, Jeremy Candelario.
Speaker 6: They still gotta pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand them.
Speaker 3: With the history and the sentiment and the playing of
Speaker 3: Ken Griffy Junior.
Speaker 1: But junior.
Speaker 3: I mean, really, for the money that they had to
Speaker 3: pay kN Griffy Junior, was he really worth that? I mean,
Speaker 3: you love kN Griffy Junior, great player, all well, all star,
Speaker 3: you know, Hall of Famer, but still, I mean you
Speaker 3: pay that kind of money just on the back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they deferred that money. Gary Jeff and Ken
Speaker 6: Griffor J's offense. The guy hit two hundred and ten
Speaker 6: home runs here, not like that. You know, he didn't produced.
Speaker 6: He did produce, But the Reds had no pitching. The
Speaker 6: Reds had they had Steve Paris and a couple other bums.
Speaker 6: They had no pitching. It wasn't Ken Grippy's fault that
Speaker 6: they weren't winning games. They had no pitching when they
Speaker 6: brought Ken Griffy Jr.
Speaker 5: In.
Speaker 6: And that's on the Reds of not being able to
Speaker 6: make trades or develop pitchers. Ken Grippy Jr. Did his job,
Speaker 6: not to the extent that when he was in in Seattle,
Speaker 6: but you know, he had a pretty damn good career
Speaker 6: with the Cincinnati Reds.
Speaker 3: The last two minutes wild Man back to the Bengals.
Speaker 3: Just for a moment, I heard someone, I think it
Speaker 3: was a caller blaming Joe Burrow for the loss to
Speaker 3: the Bills on Sunday, and.
Speaker 6: Well, he needs he needs to put down and stopped
Speaker 6: smoking those math blunts, because.
Speaker 1: I think that was aine comment.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the thing that really still burns me
Speaker 6: to this threat now, Gary jeff with the with the
Speaker 6: Bengals is when Josh Allen was able to run not
Speaker 6: once but twice, once for a touchdown on scathed and
Speaker 6: the other time for a first down in the game.
Speaker 6: Why they did not have a so called spy on
Speaker 6: Josh Allen. You know what he's gonna do. It's it
Speaker 6: just wasn't the first time that he'll try to do this.
Speaker 6: And here's here's Zach Taylor, the head coach of the
Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals. What is he doing when the defense is
Speaker 6: on the field. Is he coaching? Is he looking at things?
Speaker 6: Does he see anything? Does he talk to Al Golden
Speaker 6: and say, hey, we got to have it a spy on?
Speaker 6: Uh on Josh Allen. I don't get that at all.
Speaker 6: I mean I blame a lot of that on the
Speaker 6: head coach of not having these guys you know, prepared
Speaker 6: or you know, you gotta be thinking outside the box
Speaker 6: and not to have a spy, not to have a
Speaker 6: spinal Josh Allen was just so dumb, just.
Speaker 1: Dumb, wild man.
Speaker 3: I agree, But at that point, we gotta go, We
Speaker 3: gotta go, We got to go.
Speaker 1: We got to go, man, we got to go.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: Always good talking with.
Speaker 3: You, man, you two merry Christmas. Will probably have another
Speaker 3: bi bite at the Apple next week. Here on the
Speaker 3: Nightcap on seven hundred w A into another hour of
Speaker 3: the night Tap. You're on seven hundred WLW and it's
Speaker 3: another edition of great American history on the radio, and
Speaker 3: we have another living piece of that American radio history
Speaker 3: with us for this hour, and it's somebody that you
Speaker 3: may not have ever heard of in Cincinnati. I don't
Speaker 3: know if you're listening here in the Tri State. If
Speaker 3: you're listening in Middle Tennessee, no doubt, and you're a
Speaker 3: sports fan, you've heard this guy or heard of him
Speaker 3: at least. But he was one of the voices that
Speaker 3: kept me entertained when I lived in the Nashville area,
Speaker 3: worked there on the radio, and lived there, and he
Speaker 3: was also on the radio there for many years as
Speaker 3: the play by play guy for Vanderbilt Sports primarily I
Speaker 3: guess basketball, but football too, Georgia correct me, he needs
Speaker 3: to and and then a sports talk host at several stations.
Speaker 3: He went on to do games for Memphis State at
Speaker 3: at a later date, and he is still active today
Speaker 3: doing podcast and such, and tonight he's doing mine.
Speaker 1: George Plaster, the master.
Speaker 3: Plaster Blaster is back if he if he spoke French,
Speaker 3: he'd be Plaster of Paris, I'm certain.
Speaker 1: But the puns. But the puns out of the way,
Speaker 1: George Plaster.
Speaker 7: Welcome to the nightcap, Gary Chef Walker, the pleasure is
Speaker 7: totally mine. First of all, you're sitting there on one
Speaker 7: of the great radio stations in this country. I'm one
Speaker 7: of those radio junkies just like you were. And as
Speaker 7: a kid I grew up listening to w l W
Speaker 7: Marty Brenneman show, nusall. I even am old enough to
Speaker 7: remember al Michaels. You all had or and probably still have,
Speaker 7: some of the best imaging that I have ever heard
Speaker 7: in radio. Whoever the guy is that does the big one,
Speaker 7: that is one of the best imaging.
Speaker 3: Going in radio period, Well, sounds like you were auditioning
Speaker 3: there for a second, Georgia, maybe there's a slot open
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 6: The Big One, No, you know what, Big One.
Speaker 3: That is part and parcel of the fact the WLW,
Speaker 3: as you may or may not know, actually broadcast with
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand watts at one time back in the
Speaker 3: nineteen thirties, we had the first and only experimental half
Speaker 3: million WAT transmitter. So that's part of the Big Big
Speaker 3: One mystique. But another large component of that was when Andy,
Speaker 3: when Randy Michaels came here in the nineteen eighties, and
Speaker 3: shape at that time WLW was kind of drifting. It
Speaker 3: was playing music. It was kind of middle of the road,
Speaker 3: top forty music, and they still had the farm reports
Speaker 3: in the morning and all these other things were going on,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't the block formatted talk station that it
Speaker 3: is today. And Randy Michaels kind of changed all that
Speaker 3: in the mid nineteen eighties, and he wanted that bravado emphasized,
Speaker 3: and he wanted that the Big One to you know,
Speaker 3: shout across the valleys into the hamlets. And because the
Speaker 3: signal just goes everywhere, it's a monster signal, as you know,
Speaker 3: and you're right about the voices that have graced these
Speaker 3: airwaves over the years. I mean, I am completely humbled
Speaker 3: and going what am I doing here? Almost on a
Speaker 3: daily basis, George, But you mentioned Marty Brenneman, the old
Speaker 3: left handed Joe Nuxell, al Michaels, who you can still
Speaker 3: hear on Sunday Night Football on NBC, the late Bob Trumpy,
Speaker 3: probably one of the deepest voices ever to grace the
Speaker 3: big one. He was called, he was called, he was
Speaker 3: called Darth Vader. You know, Chris, Chris Collinsworth got his
Speaker 3: radio start here, and on tonight's show earlier, I spoke
Speaker 3: with my buddy Andy Furman, who was a long time
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever met or heard.
Speaker 7: Any Oh sure, oh absolutely, Andy's great. That name another one, Cunningham.
Speaker 1: Here, Bill Cunningham.
Speaker 7: Those are yeah, it's a little bit like KMOX and
Speaker 7: Saint Louis where radio junkies who know anything about fifty
Speaker 7: thousand lock clear channel on the AM dial are These
Speaker 7: are the great legends, and.
Speaker 1: Many of them are in trouble.
Speaker 3: I mean WLW has survived and actually thrived. I mean
Speaker 3: in the market, listenership, advertising, all of those things. We're
Speaker 3: still right there, thank God. But there are a lot
Speaker 3: of those fifty thousand watt stations that have gone for
Speaker 3: one reason or another, not just technological, but other reasons.
Speaker 3: They've gone by the boards, and they're not the monsters
Speaker 3: that they used to be.
Speaker 1: Used to be.
Speaker 3: On one of Nashville's fifty thousand waters on fifteen to
Speaker 3: ten WLAC, I think that's where I probably heard you
Speaker 3: calling Vanderbilt basketball games and occasionally doing some sports talk there.
Speaker 3: Tell me about WLAC back in the day and your
Speaker 3: work for Vandy. Of course, you know from my twenty
Speaker 3: years in Middleton to see, I'm still a Vandy fan
Speaker 3: and I've been just loving what's digging, what's been going
Speaker 3: on this season. Tell me about your day's calling play
Speaker 3: by play for Vanderbilt. Who's who is the best Vandy
Speaker 3: basketball player you ever called a game for?
Speaker 1: When you were there? While you were doing.
Speaker 7: It, Will Purdue, it was at a time where Vanderbilt
Speaker 7: basketball had sort of taken a little bit of a
Speaker 7: dive and the legendary C. M. Newton was the coach.
Speaker 7: Sam Newton became for me like a second father, finest
Speaker 7: man I've ever met in athletics, just a very decent
Speaker 7: human being, and he had the foresight to sort of
Speaker 7: fight through letting Will Purdue develop, and by Will Purdue's
Speaker 7: junior year, you know, here's a seven footer that ultimately
Speaker 7: gets drafted. I think it was ninth in the in
Speaker 7: the I guess it was the eighty nine NBA draft.
Speaker 7: He and Rick Smith's were the two big centers. And
Speaker 7: Will lives in Louisville right now. We've stayed really good
Speaker 7: friends over all these years. But I would say I
Speaker 7: would say Will Purdue. Barry Goheen was another one who
Speaker 7: I know you've had on your show before.
Speaker 1: We called him.
Speaker 3: We called him me and my friends who were Vandy
Speaker 3: staunch Vandy basketball, called him Barry go In because it
Speaker 3: seemed like a crucial situations if he had the ball
Speaker 3: in his hands, it was going in.
Speaker 7: He hit about six buzzer beaters in his career, one
Speaker 7: of those being a three pointer at the buzzer in
Speaker 7: the NCAA tournament. While that was going on, I was
Speaker 7: at what at the time was Memphis State and we
Speaker 7: roll into Cincinnati in the old Cincinnati Garden. This would
Speaker 7: have been in January of nineteen eighty eight, and there
Speaker 7: are two people in the arena two and a half
Speaker 7: hours before the game, me and a guy named Marty Brenneman,
Speaker 7: and I spent about fifteen minutes getting up the nerve
Speaker 7: to go up and speak to him and just say, Hey,
Speaker 7: I'm a huge fan, I've been listening to you for years,
Speaker 7: and he could not have been more gracious. This sort
Speaker 7: of spawned a friendship over the years. And you know,
Speaker 7: you talk about the great signal at WLW, my buddy
Speaker 7: Eli Gold, who was the longtime play by play voice
Speaker 7: of the Alabama Crimson Tide, calls me in the summer
Speaker 7: of two thousand and six. I was having some really
Speaker 7: serious voice issues. That was basically a pull up on
Speaker 7: a vocal cord, and he goes, get to a radio,
Speaker 7: get in your car. Marty is about to say hello
Speaker 7: to you and wish you a speedy recovery. And that
Speaker 7: was so cool. You know, Marty didn't have to do that,
Speaker 7: but not only a Hall of Fame broadcaster, but a
Speaker 7: guy whose friendship, boy, I have really enjoyed over the years.
Speaker 3: One of the first things that I heard as a
Speaker 3: young adolescent and teenager when our family moved to Nashville
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy three, seventy four, dating myself. Here was
Speaker 3: Vandy basketball in the radio, and you know, I was
Speaker 3: a dx er. I was a radio geek like you
Speaker 3: reference being as a kid, I wanted to tune into
Speaker 3: far away stations. I found this local station and I
Speaker 3: love basketball. I was just starting to play and I
Speaker 3: heard Vandy basketball, and for some reason I was just
Speaker 3: captivated and became a fan. And this was the days
Speaker 3: of Terry Compton and you know later on Butch Fear
Speaker 3: and Jeff Fosness and all these great names in Vandy
Speaker 3: basketball or and I got hooked into listening to the
Speaker 3: broadcast and that's how you know, years later I got
Speaker 3: to hear George Plaster doing play by play on the air.
Speaker 1: And so wow.
Speaker 3: But that being said, you and I were talking about
Speaker 3: tuning in d x ing. And by the way, the
Speaker 3: things that you said about C. M. Newton, everyone that
Speaker 3: I have known, including our mutual friend Scott Droud, has
Speaker 3: said the same thing about CM. He just had that
Speaker 3: kind of effect on people where you felt like he
Speaker 3: was he was a wise and soul. He was like
Speaker 3: a second father. He was just that guy you could
Speaker 3: go to if you had something going on. And Marty
Speaker 3: Brenneman has never been anything but absolutely generous with his
Speaker 3: time and nice to be around. And you're right, Marty
Speaker 3: will say or do anything, especially if it's for you
Speaker 3: and he knows you. He was my first guest when
Speaker 3: I started doing this night show on seven hundred wup,
Speaker 3: my very first one.
Speaker 1: YEP.
Speaker 3: I said, I want Marty as my first guest, and
Speaker 3: he agreed to come on for a few minutes. But so,
Speaker 3: I mean, talk a little bit, or let's talk a
Speaker 3: little bit, George about what is going on with the
Speaker 3: Vandy football program. Since you're still there in Nashville, you're
Speaker 3: still close to the action. I mean, what are your
Speaker 3: thoughts on the season that Clark Lee and Vandy just
Speaker 3: concluded what kind of bowl game they'll be playing. And
Speaker 3: it's a damn travesty that they couldn't pull that game
Speaker 3: out against Texas or they'd be one of the twelve.
Speaker 3: I know they would, Yeah, but the whole mystiq of
Speaker 3: Diego Pavia, who I said reminded me a lot the
Speaker 3: way he played and the success he had of a
Speaker 3: Johnny Manzel, and I find out later on that they're
Speaker 3: kind of hanging out as buddies.
Speaker 1: But anyway, your thoughts.
Speaker 7: George, Yeah, let's start with Pavia. I don't know that
Speaker 7: Pavia is gonna win the Heisman Trophy. My gut feeling
Speaker 7: is it's going to be Fernando Mendoza at Indiana, but
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be very, very close. It
Speaker 7: royally hacked me off Saturday night. Two announcers that I
Speaker 7: really like, Us Johnson and Joel Kladd on Fox were
Speaker 7: total shills for the Big Ten in that telecast, which
Speaker 7: was a Big Ten title game. But this hole, the
Speaker 7: Heisman Trophy has come down to Fernando Mendoza and Julian saying,
Speaker 7: give me a break, Diego. Pavia has earned the right
Speaker 7: to be put in that conversation, and for those two
Speaker 7: to have the platform that they did Saturday night and
Speaker 7: act like he didn't exist. I don't want to be
Speaker 7: ugly about it because Joel saying the kid at Ohio
Speaker 7: State is a fine quarterback. Do I believe that he
Speaker 7: could get under center at Vandy and lead them to
Speaker 7: a ten and two record. Absolutely not. I'm not trying
Speaker 7: to be a homer, but Bandy football has never been
Speaker 7: an easy deal. So go back a couple of years ago,
Speaker 7: Clark Lee, who's their head football coach, hired Jerry Kill,
Speaker 7: who had been the head coach at New Mexico State,
Speaker 7: and I don't really know why he was willing to
Speaker 7: leave there, but Clark Lee talked him into coming Andy.
Speaker 7: They also brought their offensive coordinator, Tim Beck, and then
Speaker 7: they started talking about this kid, Diego Pavia. And Vandy
Speaker 7: had already signed a kid, Nate Johnson out of Utah
Speaker 7: who couldn't throw a lick, and Jerry Kill kept on
Speaker 7: them about need to see this kid, Diego Pavia, and
Speaker 7: finally Clark Lee said, Okay, you know, let's bring him
Speaker 7: in here. Well, I had seen Diego Pavia in the
Speaker 7: Conference USA ESPN Tuesday and Wednesday night games, and I
Speaker 7: knew he was for real. Now, I didn't know he
Speaker 7: would have this kind of impact because he has walked
Speaker 7: in there, and I think there are a couple of
Speaker 7: things he's done. The obvious is what you see when
Speaker 7: you watch his games, which is he's elevated Vandy to
Speaker 7: a level nobody ever saw.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about a quarterback carrying a team
Speaker 3: on his back, absolutely, that's the definition.
Speaker 1: George.
Speaker 3: I tell you what I need to break up, come
Speaker 3: back and join me in the next half hour and
Speaker 3: we'll do more of this. George Plaster fantastic sports guy
Speaker 3: out of Nashville, Tennessee, where I first heard him, and
Speaker 3: he's been gracious enough to stick around for another segment
Speaker 3: on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Time for part
Speaker 3: two of our conversation with George Plaster. It's American History
Speaker 3: on the radio, and hopefully we're making some tonight. I
Speaker 3: don't know if this broadcast is going to go in
Speaker 3: any Hall of Fame, but we were talking about Diego
Speaker 3: Pavia carrying Vanderbilt literally on his back this year to
Speaker 3: a ten and two record, and he really really should
Speaker 3: have been the Heisman front runner of everybody I watched.
Speaker 3: You're referencing Julian Sands, the freshman at Ohio State, and
Speaker 3: I got a lot of buddies who are Buckeye fans,
Speaker 3: but I'm sorry, he has done nothing to deserve to
Speaker 3: be striking that pose on a trophy. And I mean,
Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza, I'll give it, you know, kind of had
Speaker 3: the same effect on Indiana along with that whole team.
Speaker 3: But Diego Pavia is a one man wrecking ball. Any
Speaker 3: other thoughts, real quickly on that and we'll move on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the contribution he made that never gets
Speaker 7: talked about. I'm convinced he walked in there a year
Speaker 7: and a half ago to a program that was used
Speaker 7: to losing, and when that happens in a locker room,
Speaker 7: losing doesn't hurt. Losing's okay, losings acceptable. And I think
Speaker 7: he walked in there and said screw that. I didn't
Speaker 7: come here to lose. And I think he's done more
Speaker 7: to change the attitude around their football program. And I
Speaker 7: think it's almost as big a contribution as what he's
Speaker 7: done on the field.
Speaker 3: H Yeah, I didn't think about it in that terms.
Speaker 3: In those terms, but yeah, you make it. You make
Speaker 3: an excellent case for the intangibles that a player like
Speaker 3: that brings into a program that, again, as you mentioned,
Speaker 3: is parenally moribund.
Speaker 1: If not to be more.
Speaker 3: Diplomatic, I guess, George, I wanted to ask you too
Speaker 3: about and you said you were a radio geek as
Speaker 3: a kid growing up like I was. What was your
Speaker 3: favorite DX moment You reached out and you heard a
Speaker 3: far away station and you just were kind of.
Speaker 1: Entranced by it.
Speaker 3: For me, it was a station like WLS in Chicago
Speaker 3: because we used to live in suburban Chicago when I
Speaker 3: was very young, and I got hooked into Ready. In fact,
Speaker 3: that's where I got built with the bug. At seven
Speaker 3: years old, I said, I want to be one of
Speaker 3: those guys. But was there a classic station that you
Speaker 3: heard or a personality that you heard and it just
Speaker 3: kind of sparked your imagination to an extent that you
Speaker 3: wanted to be like that guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was two of them. It was the one
Speaker 7: you're broadcasting on right now because it's easily you know,
Speaker 7: you can easily pick it up in Nashville if you're
Speaker 7: in the car in the winter by probably five o'clock.
Speaker 7: Same thing with KMOX. Camox had this young guy who
Speaker 7: was like twenty two years old, and he used to
Speaker 7: do this midnight sports report and I thought he was
Speaker 7: the best I had ever heard, but at the time,
Speaker 7: nobody had ever seen it. His name was Bob Costas.
Speaker 7: So fast forward all these years later. I put a
Speaker 7: call into Bob Costas last year. I wanted to talk
Speaker 7: to him about where he thought Nashville is as far
Speaker 7: as expansion in Major League Baseball, which supposedly is coming,
Speaker 7: and I left him a message, I said, I grew
Speaker 7: up listening to you. I actually called your talk show
Speaker 7: one night, and so he sent me a message back
Speaker 7: saying give me a and I said, oh yeah, I said,
Speaker 7: I remember the number four, three, six, seven, nine hundred.
Speaker 7: He said, do you remember the enterprise number? I said absolutely,
Speaker 7: nine eight o eight. He goes, you're legit. Talk to me.
Speaker 3: The first time I ever heard Bob Costas, he was
Speaker 3: doing play by play for the Spirit of Saint Louis
Speaker 3: in the old Aba.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Marvin Barnes, Ernie d. Gregario, bad News, Barness, Gerard.
Speaker 1: Freddie Caledwell, oh my god.
Speaker 3: You know the famous story that Costas always tells about
Speaker 3: Marvin Barnes getting back on the plane in Louisville after
Speaker 3: playing the Kentucky Colonels but wouldn't get on the plane.
Speaker 1: You know that story?
Speaker 3: No, No, okay, Bob Costas tells a story of Marvin Barnes,
Speaker 3: who again had been drafted early. And I think he
Speaker 3: was a freshman at Providence or sophomore and then he
Speaker 3: came out whatever the deal was. He wasn't exactly a
Speaker 3: Rhodes scholar, Marvin. Anyway, they get done with the game
Speaker 3: against the Kentucky colonels in Louisville, and they're getting ready
Speaker 3: to get on the plane to go back to Saint
Speaker 3: Louis and Marvin's nowhere to be found. And Freddie Caldwell,
Speaker 3: point guard, is running around the airport frantic, trying to
Speaker 3: find Marvin to get him to get on the plane
Speaker 3: because it's getting ready to take off. He said, Marvin.
Speaker 3: He finds him in the concourse. He said, Marvin, the
Speaker 3: plane's taken off. He said, no, I'm gonna find my
Speaker 3: own way home. I ain't getting on a plane. He said,
Speaker 3: why aren't you getting on the plane, Marvin. And Marvin
Speaker 3: pulled out his plane ticket, but it said very specifically,
Speaker 3: departure eleven fifty five pm, arrival eleven fifty pm.
Speaker 1: I ain't getting on No damn time machine.
Speaker 7: That's beautiful. That's hilarious, But that's there's a.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a classic costas there.
Speaker 7: There's a book out there for people that are old
Speaker 7: ABA lovers. Terry Pluto wrote it. It's called Loose Balls.
Speaker 7: And I had Julia serving on one time. It's one
Speaker 7: of the best interviews that I've probably ever done, because
Speaker 7: I got into the old Aba stuff and Doctor J.
Speaker 4: Loved it.
Speaker 3: Oh, Doctor J was my hero when I was a
Speaker 3: playground warrior George growing up. You know this, this is
Speaker 3: the mid seventies. I'm watching Doctor J. In fact, I
Speaker 3: had an afro the size of In fact, my afro,
Speaker 3: my white afro, may have been the size of Darnel
Speaker 3: Hillman's afro if you remember him. Oh my, that just tall,
Speaker 3: tall Tall picked out afro and I you know, I
Speaker 3: tried to mimic all their moves. Of course, I didn't
Speaker 3: quite have a vertical jump of forty inches, especially as
Speaker 3: a fourteen year old, but I kind of imagined I
Speaker 3: did and was doing all these whirling dervishes in the
Speaker 3: lane and scoring occasionally when I didn't hit the bottom
Speaker 3: of the rim. But I thought I was Doctor J,
Speaker 3: or aspired to be Doctor J. So he was always
Speaker 3: When he finally got that NBA ring, I was like,
Speaker 3: I was cheering him on.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, so I love Doctor J. What was he like?
Speaker 1: What was Julius irving like?
Speaker 7: Well, I've only I've had him on the show one time,
Speaker 7: and I would describe it as one of the coolest
Speaker 7: interviews because he really seemed to get into the fact
Speaker 7: that I knew a lot of the ABA stuff, And
Speaker 7: the truth of it is, I just read that book
Speaker 7: that I was referencing earlier, and so it was all
Speaker 7: top of mind. He really seemed to appreciate that. It's funny,
Speaker 7: you know how it is when you do interviews and
Speaker 7: you know you're not sure whether it's gonna go right,
Speaker 7: or whether the person really is getting into what you're asking,
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, you throw some magic
Speaker 7: question out there and the thing just takes off. It's
Speaker 7: the beauty of interviewing.
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: I had the chance to interview Will Purdue, your favorite
Speaker 3: ever Vandy basketball player that you watched and called, and
Speaker 3: it was a fantastic I've interviewed the guy I call shooter,
Speaker 3: Scott Droud, who when he graduated from Vanderbilt and for
Speaker 3: many years afterward, was the NCAA leader in three point
Speaker 3: field goal percentage of over fifty percent. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: he had because Scott came in right as the three
Speaker 3: point shot was implemented in college basketball, and he lives
Speaker 3: locally here. He told me some stories about you coming
Speaker 3: to visit here, George, and some some I don't know
Speaker 3: if we can tell. In the air, but apparently you
Speaker 3: have you have an affinity for going to the casinos.
Speaker 7: I've been known to uh to enjoy it, and Scott
Speaker 7: seemed to enjoy it with me. It was a couple
Speaker 7: of years ago. I try about once a year to
Speaker 7: come to Cincinnati. I am a huge baseball fan. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm a big Atlanta Braves fan, but I love I
Speaker 7: love the Cincinnati baseball vibe. Two years ago, I guess
Speaker 7: two three years ago, the Reds were in the middle
Speaker 7: of a ten or eleven game winning streak and they
Speaker 7: beat the Braves that night in a classic slugfest. It
Speaker 7: was like eleven to ten. And we went over to
Speaker 7: the casino, the Jack Casino, right after that, and the
Speaker 7: place was absolutely packed, and I was like, this is
Speaker 7: what happens when your team is winning. Downtown's buzzing. You know,
Speaker 7: all the merchants are happy. Cincinnati is a great baseball city.
Speaker 6: And I saw earlier today.
Speaker 7: The rumor was that Kyle Schwarber might be coming to Cincinnati,
Speaker 7: and it didn't work out that way and he instead
Speaker 7: resigned with the Phillies, which is too bad because I
Speaker 7: would love You've got a great manager in Terry Francona
Speaker 7: no doubt, a class act, one of the three or
Speaker 7: four best managers in the game. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 7: in the next year or to something really good's gonna
Speaker 7: happen with the Reds.
Speaker 3: Hum well, I mean, remember you heard that it as
Speaker 3: long as The one thing I noticed this season, as
Speaker 3: opposed to last season with home games is that while
Speaker 3: the ultimate final result wasn't good enough to be in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, they were still challenging the last week, but
Speaker 3: there were more fans in the seats than there had
Speaker 3: been previously. And I think part of that was. Part
Speaker 3: of that was Tito and his presence and his influence
Speaker 3: on the ball club and the fans. I think they'd
Speaker 3: grown a little bit weary of the losses under David Bell,
Speaker 3: and when Terry Francona was named manager, that made a
Speaker 3: difference in ticket sales and butts in the seats man
Speaker 3: can translate to wins on the field and vice versa.
Speaker 7: Obviously, I don't pretend to know him real well. The
Speaker 7: Baseball Winter meetings had been in Nashville several times, and
Speaker 7: they've been at the opry Land Hotel, and as you know,
Speaker 7: that's a hard place to get around. Oh yeah, So
Speaker 7: we have him on and he ends up showing up
Speaker 7: about five minutes late and just profusely apologizing. And I said, Terry,
Speaker 7: I said, nobody who doesn't live here can find anything
Speaker 7: in this place. I said, the fact that you made
Speaker 7: the effort to be here, I said, man, I so
Speaker 7: appreciate it. I'm a huge fan of his. There's a
Speaker 7: credibility that he brings to the Reds. Right now, I'm
Speaker 7: telling you the next year to some pretty good things
Speaker 7: are going to start happening with the Reds.
Speaker 3: What are the chances that Nashville does get that MOLB franchise?
Speaker 3: Because that was all was something that was percolating under
Speaker 3: the service and Larry Schmid how he got God bless him.
Speaker 3: He tried so hard to get Major League Baseball to
Speaker 3: pay attention. He built that new stadium for the sounds,
Speaker 3: and you know, every year he's like knocking on MLB's doors,
Speaker 3: come on, consider us. But for the reasons of proximity Cincinnati,
Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Atlanta, I guess there was a hesitancy by
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball to even consider a franchise in Nashville.
Speaker 3: But it's I mean, it's a major sports town now.
Speaker 3: George Plaster. Will Nashville get an expansion franchise in baseball?
Speaker 7: Yes, I believe we are number one on MLB's list.
Speaker 7: I think what they want to do is go one
Speaker 7: team on the East coast, Nashville, and right now I
Speaker 7: think the team out west. The leader in the clubhouse
Speaker 7: right now is Salt Lake City and Dale Murphy, the
Speaker 7: former Atlanta Braves star, is sort of the face of
Speaker 7: the Salt Lake City situation, and so I pay a
Speaker 7: lot of attention to it. By the way, when you
Speaker 7: brought up Larry Schmidow, he's eighty five years old, still working.
Speaker 7: He has a bunch of us every Monday morning for
Speaker 7: breakfast at a cracker barrel.
Speaker 1: How about that.
Speaker 7: We have more fun just throwing darts at each other
Speaker 7: and talking sports. And he's an incredible human being. I
Speaker 7: had loved getting to know him better. I worked for
Speaker 7: him when I was in college. I was one of
Speaker 7: the Sounds radio announcers. But getting to know him now,
Speaker 7: it's just been a total delight.
Speaker 3: Well, I remember seeing a lot of up and or
Speaker 3: rehabbing National League and Baseball professional baseball stars play for
Speaker 3: a week or two in Nashville with the Sounds and
Speaker 3: then players that you never forget, like Steve Bye Bye Balboni,
Speaker 3: who played for the Sounds for how many years? Just
Speaker 3: incredible minor league player who either struck out or hit
Speaker 3: a home run. George Plaster, you always hit home runs, man,
Speaker 3: and I'm so glad that you took the time to
Speaker 3: talk with us. Next time we'll have to dish some
Speaker 3: dirt on Scott Drowd because I know he listens.
Speaker 4: Let's do it.
Speaker 7: Let's absolutely do it. Look, it is an honor to
Speaker 7: be on with you on this great radio station. And
Speaker 7: anytime you want me to come on, if you hit
Speaker 7: the bottom of the barrel and you're desperate, call me.
Speaker 6: I'm in.
Speaker 3: Well, actually actually droughts on the bottom of the barrel,
Speaker 3: so you could be next.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're right there. We're twenty ninth and thirtieth.
Speaker 1: George. Have a great night. Thank you, God, bless.
Speaker 7: Hey, Merry Christmas to yours Mary christ.
Speaker 3: Thank you George Plaster with us tonight on the Nightcap.
Speaker 3: Back to wrap up,