WEBVTT - 12-9-25 The Nightcap with Gary Jeff Walker

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the Nightcap on this Tuesday night, December ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere between here and Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>As our opening guests.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight, we have the Congressman from the House of Representatives

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<v Speaker 3>of the fourth District in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, my

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<v Speaker 3>representative in Washington, d C. Thomas Massey, for a few

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<v Speaker 3>minutes to start off tonight. We'll have some other stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but right now this is the important thing. Congressman Massey, Thomas,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great, Cary, Jeff. Good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not tired of winning yet, but I did have

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<v Speaker 4>a big win here recently. I got the Epstein Files

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<v Speaker 4>Transparency Act passed in the House by a vote of

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred and twenty seven to one, and it passed

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate unanimously, which means one hundred to zero, and

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<v Speaker 4>the President signed it immediately. And just today the second

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<v Speaker 4>judge has ruled that they will release grand jury material

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<v Speaker 4>that they had previously not released. There was a judge

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<v Speaker 4>in Florida with the old Epstein case who ruled that

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<v Speaker 4>he would release all the grand jury material. And then

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<v Speaker 4>today to a judge who's over the Maxwell case, the

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<v Speaker 4>recent Maxwell Gallaine Maxwell case, ruled that he will release

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<v Speaker 4>the material. And it's all because this bill passed and

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<v Speaker 4>then the deal. There's a third judge of the recent

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<v Speaker 4>Epstein case in New York. We're waiting to hear what

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<v Speaker 4>he's going to do, but we suspect since two federal

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<v Speaker 4>judges have already said, look, Massey got the Epstein Files

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<v Speaker 4>Transparency Act passed, This changes everything. We're going to release

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<v Speaker 4>our materials. So we're waiting on that third judge what

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<v Speaker 4>he will do. But in reality, the bulk of the

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<v Speaker 4>material is at the DOJ, not in and the FBI

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<v Speaker 4>not in this grand jury material.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So here here's my question.

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<v Speaker 3>What about protections from some of the victims who don't

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<v Speaker 3>want their names or their stories released.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is that still redacted. Is that still

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<v Speaker 1>blocked out.

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<v Speaker 4>Thomas, Yeah, that's written into our bill. We have a

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<v Speaker 4>provision to allow for reactions of victims. Now, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>redefine victim as some you know, man who's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be embarrassed because he went to the Epstein Island. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not a victim, but any woman who was sex trafficked

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<v Speaker 4>or or girl for that man, or some of these

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<v Speaker 4>females we're fourteen years old. All of those names will

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<v Speaker 4>be redacted. And the judge who announced today he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to release the grand jury material in the Glenne Maxwell

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<v Speaker 4>case said that he's taking extra care to keep the victims'

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<v Speaker 4>names redacted.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump today or this evening, spoke in Pennsylvania at

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<v Speaker 3>one of those campaign style rallies that he likes to

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<v Speaker 3>do when he's running, to tout the plans that and

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<v Speaker 3>the things this administration has done to make life more affordable.

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<v Speaker 3>The new a word in Washington, his affordability. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it started with the zoh Ranmandani promise of everything for

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<v Speaker 3>free to every New Yorker that voted for him, which

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<v Speaker 3>we know is illogical and can't happen unless it's some

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<v Speaker 3>communist country. But what should the government role be in

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<v Speaker 3>affordability in the first place?

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas?

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<v Speaker 3>How should the government be able to help people afford

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<v Speaker 3>things that they need in their lives? Well, well, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what you broke up there, Thomas.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm sorry, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So, so answer affordability.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, let me start with what they shouldn't do. They

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<v Speaker 4>should not do price fixing. You can't go in and

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<v Speaker 4>say the price is going to be this, No, because

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<v Speaker 4>the government doesn't know. The free market knows what the

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<v Speaker 4>price should be. The government can make sure that the

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<v Speaker 4>rules are written so that there's competition. We don't have

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<v Speaker 4>affordability in the supermarket right now for meat because there's

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<v Speaker 4>four meat packers that control eighty five percent of the

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<v Speaker 4>meat that you can buy there. So one thing we

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<v Speaker 4>could do for affordability is Past My Prime Act, which

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<v Speaker 4>would allow farmers to use local processors, mom and pop processors,

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<v Speaker 4>and sell their beef and port locally directly and bypass

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<v Speaker 4>that oligarchy of meat processors. Okay, so one thing, that's

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<v Speaker 4>one thing we can do, and you do that by

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<v Speaker 4>lowering regulations, not no regulations, but right size the regulations.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, we've got scale prejudicial regulations, which means the

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<v Speaker 4>big guys love the regulation because it keeps the little

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<v Speaker 4>guys out. But the main thing we can do for affordability,

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<v Speaker 4>Gary Jeff, is to quit spending so much frickin money

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have and printing it. Inflation is insane. And

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<v Speaker 4>then you've got that, you know, the US government is

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<v Speaker 4>competing for capital because we're borrowing so much money, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're the ones driving up interest rates. So affordability means

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<v Speaker 4>how much interest are you paying on your mortgage and

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<v Speaker 4>your car. And it also means is what's your real

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<v Speaker 4>wage after inflation every year? So that's what we should

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<v Speaker 4>be doing, spending less money so that we're not causing

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<v Speaker 4>so much inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>So the FED should lower the interest rates, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think the FED should exist.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with and we've had that conversation before. But

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<v Speaker 3>as long as they do exist, they should lower the

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<v Speaker 3>interest rates.

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<v Speaker 4>They can lower interest rates. But here's what's happened. The

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<v Speaker 4>foreign sovereign wealth funds that typically buy US debt have

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<v Speaker 4>decided that four percent is not enough interest because we

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<v Speaker 4>monetize too much of our debt and diluted, we're promising

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<v Speaker 4>to pay back anybody who buys Treasury bonds with US

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<v Speaker 4>dollars fifteen years from now, and they're saying, well, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't think four percent is a good deal because we

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<v Speaker 4>think you're going to inflate your dollar more than that

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<v Speaker 4>year over year, and in fifteen years we will have

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<v Speaker 4>not made any returns. So the FED could lower rates,

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<v Speaker 4>but will the market follow those rates? Not really the

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<v Speaker 4>Fed's ability to control interest. It's like a control stick

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<v Speaker 4>that's connected with a rubber band and they've got that

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<v Speaker 4>band stretched. You could stretch it some more and try

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<v Speaker 4>to bring the rates down, but they're not in total control.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking to Thomas Massey, Congressman Thomas Massey, my congressman, the

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<v Speaker 3>guy vote for every two years, planning on doing it

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<v Speaker 3>again unless he really really steems me in the next

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes. No, Thomas here. So here's the thing. What

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<v Speaker 3>about the so called double tap? These boats, these drug boats,

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<v Speaker 3>according to the Administration narco terrorism vehicles in international waters

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<v Speaker 3>they are unflagged. Does the President have the right to

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<v Speaker 3>do what he is doing and the Department of Defense

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<v Speaker 3>or Department of War have the right to do what

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<v Speaker 3>they are doing in open international waters if they've got

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<v Speaker 3>the intel and they know these people are transporting drugs

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<v Speaker 3>to the United States because it's a threat to our country,

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<v Speaker 3>a security threat. Do you believe that the President and

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Defense have the right to do what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, sorry for the bad pun, but the water is

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<v Speaker 4>a little murky here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all the cocaine in the water that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the sharks are really listen. When when we go

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<v Speaker 4>after terraces in the Middle East or elsewhere, there's an

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<v Speaker 4>AUMF that authorizes authorization to use the military force. It's

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<v Speaker 4>called the Global War on Terror and it was done

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<v Speaker 4>long before I got to Congress, and it's still in effect.

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<v Speaker 4>And so it's for al Qaeda and associates. But Congress

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<v Speaker 4>authorized that and declared those to be terrorists and that

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<v Speaker 4>the president could do those things. There's actually no such

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<v Speaker 4>authorization for what's going on in Venezuela. And the concern

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<v Speaker 4>that I have and Senator Ran Paul has too, is

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<v Speaker 4>that this is more than about the cocaine. It's certainly

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<v Speaker 4>not about fentanyl. Fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>why aren't we under the same rules you could attack

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<v Speaker 4>boats from Mexico or boats from China to Mexico delivering

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<v Speaker 4>the precursors for fentanyl. If that, if you're allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>bomb any boat that's got drugs on it, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 4>gets and it gets murky because and I'm not taking

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<v Speaker 4>up for anybody who's running drugs in the Caribbean at all,

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<v Speaker 4>but the double tap gets murky because this is somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>between a military exercise and a police exercise. I talked

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<v Speaker 4>to veterans who said, you know, in Afghanistan or Iraq,

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<v Speaker 4>if you blew up a convoy and there were some survivors,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let's say a military convoy with machine guns

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<v Speaker 4>and tanks and whatever, you go back and you take

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<v Speaker 4>them all out. You don't go in and arrest them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what's what leaves a bad taste in people's mouths,

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<v Speaker 4>and mine included here is that this is somewhere between

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<v Speaker 4>a military action and a police action. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>were a police and you were pulling over a drug

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<v Speaker 4>you say you were doing a drug bust, and you

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<v Speaker 4>had disabled the drug dealer's ability to distribute the drugs,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe destroyed all the drugs, and they were still the

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<v Speaker 4>car driver or the boat driver or whatever. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying they're innocent, but there are different degrees of culpability.

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<v Speaker 4>The police wouldn't go back and put double taps in everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is that's why this is murky. Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 4>a there's not a congressional authorization. The premise here that

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<v Speaker 4>I think is a little bit disingenuous. I do think

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<v Speaker 4>that the president is trying to and the State Department

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<v Speaker 4>is trying to exact regime change in vent and this

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<v Speaker 4>is somewhat of a police action that's been categorized as

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<v Speaker 4>a military action and it's being carried out by the military.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that anybody, I don't think that Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Hegseth should be drummed out of office or arrested for

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<v Speaker 3>international war crimes for what they're doing. I understand that you,

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<v Speaker 3>as you well stated, it's a murky situation without the

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<v Speaker 3>authorization of Congress, but they do have some power.

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<v Speaker 1>To do it.

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<v Speaker 3>The Supreme Court is deciding whether these tariffs can be

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<v Speaker 3>kept in place that the Trump administration. I know you've

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<v Speaker 3>been an anti tariff guy for the most part so far.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think think we should I think we

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<v Speaker 4>should vote on them, by the way, if we could

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<v Speaker 4>go back to the first one hundred and fifty years

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<v Speaker 4>of this country, where we didn't have an income tax.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't have an income tax until the sixteenth Amendment

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<v Speaker 4>was passed.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen thirteen or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, very bad years FED came into existence, the

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<v Speaker 4>income tax came into existence, and they began direct electing

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<v Speaker 4>senators and senators and quit working for the states. They

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<v Speaker 4>became basically a house of representatives that run every six years. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 4>those were three bad things that happened in nineteen thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>But if we can go back prior to nineteen thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>over ninety percent of our revenue came from tariffs and

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<v Speaker 4>there was no income tax, and I would be okay

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<v Speaker 4>with going back to that. It's not that I'm against tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll get Honestly, you're going to get less of whatever

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<v Speaker 4>you tax. So if you tax a person's labor, you

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<v Speaker 4>probably do less labor or they're less inclined to do

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<v Speaker 4>the labor. If you tax consumption of foreign goods, there'll

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<v Speaker 4>be less consumption of foreign goods. And I think trade

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<v Speaker 4>is good, but I'm not like a religious zealot about

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<v Speaker 4>free trade. You got to collect the money somewhere, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the thing Congress has in specifically, the House

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<v Speaker 4>of Representatives has the taxing authority. That's in the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>It says that the Congress shall set the taxes, an

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<v Speaker 4>any bill dealing with taxes has to originate in the House.

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<v Speaker 4>Even well, if you think about the context in which

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<v Speaker 4>that was written, the founding fathers anticipated that taxes would

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<v Speaker 4>be tariffs and exercise taxes on products, and so they

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<v Speaker 4>always intended for Congress to weigh in. So the question

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<v Speaker 4>is can the president using authority delegated to him in

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<v Speaker 4>the seventies nineteen seventies by Congress. Was Congress allowed to

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<v Speaker 4>delegate that to him? And is he using that appropriately?

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<v Speaker 4>Here's what I think they might say. They might say that, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>the power resides in Congress, but Congress is sitting there

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<v Speaker 4>doing nothing. They haven't taken a vote on it in

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<v Speaker 4>the House, hm, and so Congress has abdicated their role

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<v Speaker 4>in this. They might the Supreme Court might say that

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<v Speaker 4>and leave that authority to the president. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what they're going to say, but I know that the

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<v Speaker 4>Constitution says that we should be voting on these things

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<v Speaker 4>in the House. And if they would give me a

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<v Speaker 4>vote that says, Okay, for every dollar of tariff we collect,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to reduce the income tax on individuals.

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<v Speaker 1>I vote for that, and I would be happy that

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<v Speaker 1>you were voting for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Massey, thank you so much for your time, and

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<v Speaker 3>get back on your trip to Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Do some good work.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, We're headed there, Thanks Garry, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Thomas Massey running again for the fourth district seat

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<v Speaker 3>in the House of Representatives, and I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>vote for him again. I just can't stop news on

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<v Speaker 3>the way in a few.

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<v Speaker 1>As a confidence killer.

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<v Speaker 4>You can have the best outfit, the sharpest resume, the

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<v Speaker 4>funniest jokes, but if your breath smells like the food

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<v Speaker 4>you just date, that's all people remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is once again sports were they out of sorts?

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<v Speaker 3>Although in these segments with this guy, we sometimes we

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<v Speaker 3>dripped off away from sports, which I think is fine

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<v Speaker 3>for me and fine for you and fine for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's find out if that is the case. Tonight we

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<v Speaker 3>welcome into the night Cap Layer, the one and only

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<v Speaker 3>four ball Andy Furman and Andy I had a question

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<v Speaker 3>to start.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind, you might just doo.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you are supposed to interview me in a sense,

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<v Speaker 5>right or conversation whatever? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I thought that's what we were doing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to ask you what kind of shape are

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<v Speaker 3>you in? Because I don't think that I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>best shape in the world. But yesterday or over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>we had the Health Secretary, Robert Kennedyjunior, and the Transportation

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary in the airport doing pull ups and I can't

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<v Speaker 3>remember the last time I did a pull up?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do pull ups? Offten? Andy? And in your

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<v Speaker 1>regiment of workout and fitness, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Still pay about it. No, I tell you what, I

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<v Speaker 5>have to commend you for admitting that you're in really

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<v Speaker 5>bad shape. No, I'm not in really mentally and physically

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<v Speaker 5>mentally physics, not.

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<v Speaker 1>In really bad shape. Andy. I forgot my phone two

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<v Speaker 1>days in a row. But that's it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the mental part of it. In the physical part,

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<v Speaker 5>I I am not you, And they say wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Wow. I'm not obesely overweight.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to be obviously have a wait to

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<v Speaker 5>be in physically bad shape. You could be like underweight too.

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<v Speaker 5>You just you just don't look put together. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>And I can tell you that as a friend, and

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<v Speaker 5>then I never would have said that to you except

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<v Speaker 5>that you brought it up, so you know, friends, of honestly, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Were talking about me, you idiot, We were talking about you.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of shape for you?

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<v Speaker 5>Now? Are I piggy stop it? All right? Really?

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<v Speaker 1>So what kind of shape were you in? That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have to say that I made a commitment

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<v Speaker 5>to myself New Year's last year, last year that I

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<v Speaker 5>would not miss because I used to do the deal.

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<v Speaker 5>I used to run. I at least a love running,

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<v Speaker 5>and I ran in a couple of flying pigs and

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<v Speaker 5>you know ten k's and everything, the whole deal. But

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<v Speaker 5>I've did a lot of them. I used to run

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<v Speaker 5>every single day at the Cincinnati Athletic Club indoors. And

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<v Speaker 5>then I had some problems with my hip, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I had some problems with my other hip, and I

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<v Speaker 5>had two hip surgeries, and I asked the doctor can

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<v Speaker 5>I continue running? And he already says to me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>of course you can, but if you do, you'd be

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<v Speaker 5>coming back to see me again. So I was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of at a loss for like what to do, and summertime.

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<v Speaker 5>I love to swim, so swimming was great, and even

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<v Speaker 5>said swimming was good. But I got myself one of

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<v Speaker 5>those bikes, and at the beginning of the year I started,

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<v Speaker 5>and I honestly, I don't think I've missed ten days. Really,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I missed ten days since the first

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<v Speaker 5>of the year. I do an hour and fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 5>every single day, and most of the days I try

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<v Speaker 5>to do it at four o'clock in the afternoon, so

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<v Speaker 5>I do it well. I watch Judge Judy. I enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>Judge Judy.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa you watch Judge Judy?

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<v Speaker 5>I was, I was following.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with you. Well depending on where you're at Channel twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>That the numbers change all depending on what service you

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<v Speaker 3>have or anything else. That's not the point. The point

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<v Speaker 3>is you're watching. You're a grown man and you're watching

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<v Speaker 3>Judge Judy every day.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you love about? What are you like?

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<v Speaker 5>She's just she's straightforward, she isn't taking a guff and

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<v Speaker 5>you know she said this guy, I don't believe you.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't believe you, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's just andy And you know none of that's real.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on TV it's not real.

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<v Speaker 5>And dare you, how dare you challenge Judge Judy.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're probably going to probably going to give full respect

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<v Speaker 3>to John Cena's laugh wrestling about that he's about.

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<v Speaker 5>To just Judy is a different because professional for forty

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<v Speaker 5>freaking years.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on now, really, Judge Judy is professional wrestling for

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<v Speaker 3>for old people who.

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<v Speaker 5>Profession I am writing her, and I've written to her before.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to write her and tell her you said that.

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<v Speaker 5>And I want a letter from her to say the

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<v Speaker 5>whole deal that it's true, and then after that and

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<v Speaker 5>show it to you. I want you to apologize to her.

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<v Speaker 5>I want you to apologize. Matter of fact, you want

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<v Speaker 5>to get her on as a guest, you should get

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<v Speaker 5>her on your show as a guest. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>can't do it, I'm going to try to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It to make fun of her.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, I would. I would not be assuming you

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<v Speaker 5>know what they say, all people that assume you're assuming

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<v Speaker 5>that she's a fraud, And I can't handle you saying that. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe she is, but I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, you don't understand she's not a fraud.

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<v Speaker 3>But the show is the premises.

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<v Speaker 5>The real life days.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no.

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<v Speaker 3>Such thing as reality TV. If you hear reality TV

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<v Speaker 3>in any court, their appearances, it's all the same andy

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<v Speaker 3>from Jerry Springer to Judge Judy.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's not. I didn't want to continue this conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>You're making me want to gag. Really, Jerry Springer, may

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<v Speaker 5>he rest in peace. I love them to death.

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<v Speaker 3>Wheel Buddies and the show was completely fraud it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, but don't put in the same league's Judge Judy. Please.

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<v Speaker 5>That was a comedy of errors. That show. Really come on,

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<v Speaker 5>But this is a real live court cases, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and there's stupid cases and I enjoy them like a

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<v Speaker 5>dog poops on someone's lawn and they take them to court. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 5>my tree was growing over on your side of the lawn,

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<v Speaker 5>on the side of the fence. I cut it off,

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<v Speaker 5>and you're suing me because I cut you a tree.

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<v Speaker 5>But it was on my side of the road or

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<v Speaker 5>my sart of the fence. Those are real cases. They're

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<v Speaker 5>not they're not frauds. I mean, you know, I got you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pregnant when she was drunk. I mean, come on, really,

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<v Speaker 5>with the fights, there's no fights watch it one day

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<v Speaker 5>and you'll see and you'll wake up. Come on, really,

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<v Speaker 5>give me a break. And I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 5>into this discussion. When you were talking about body shape,

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<v Speaker 5>now that's what we were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were, and you still.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a pretty good Yeah. I wave myself this morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I was one seventy three, which I think is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you're you're a tad shorter than I am

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<v Speaker 3>and I am about one seven.

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<v Speaker 5>What's your height?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it used to be about five eleven, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>been shrinking apparently over the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm about five nine and a half. I used to

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<v Speaker 5>be five to ten. I'm shrinking too a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, are you Are you shrinking? Are you shrinking in

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<v Speaker 3>other places? Other areas?

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<v Speaker 5>I shrunk two years ago, being below the waist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I won't say that. You said that, but okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I never had anything much there.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Furman and the field mouse and what the parrots saw, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Get off this topic. I'm about this because is aggravating me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm beginning to smids right now. Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you what, Why don't you take a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of minutes to towel off and we'll come back more

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<v Speaker 3>with Andy Furman in just a moment on the ninth

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<v Speaker 3>cap on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 6>So, Andy, you.

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<v Speaker 3>At a request, and I don't know that it's fitting

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<v Speaker 3>or appropriate yet, because the Bengals are not eliminated mathematically

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<v Speaker 3>from the playoffs. If they finish eight and nine and

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<v Speaker 3>Pittsburgh and Baltimore also finish eight and nine or worse,

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<v Speaker 3>and you never know what the Ravens, they have totally collapsed. Andy,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals could, by virtue of their in division record,

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<v Speaker 3>win the AFC North and then they're in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>But you thought that maybe we should go ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>have the funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, though, I really enjoy what you have

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<v Speaker 5>to say. It's not that you're positive and upbeat. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to know what you're smoking because I want some

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<v Speaker 5>of it, really, I really do. There are many people

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<v Speaker 5>out there who say that the Bengals were eliminated in August. Really,

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<v Speaker 5>so forget it. Because to make the playoffs, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 5>go now four and nine, they obviously have to win

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<v Speaker 5>out the remaining four games to get help. Help by

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<v Speaker 5>the Pittsburgh Steelers losing most of their final games, as

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<v Speaker 5>winning the AFC one is not only the realistic path

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<v Speaker 5>with wild card Hope's nearly gone after the Week fourteen loss. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>they got to win their final four games, and they're

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<v Speaker 5>playing Baltimore at Miami Arizona, which is a possibility in

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Cleveland's Arizona and Cleveland. I think it is a possibility,

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<v Speaker 5>But this team, the way I saw them play the

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<v Speaker 5>other day, I don't see it happening. Ravens is possibil

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<v Speaker 5>They could win three, they could win three of the four,

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<v Speaker 5>but they need such help down the road, and three

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<v Speaker 5>of the four is not going to make it for

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<v Speaker 5>him anyway. So and look, I'm not rooting against them.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to be realistic. I just want to see

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<v Speaker 5>them win. And I'll tell you why not because I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a great fan and a tailgate and go crazy with

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<v Speaker 5>them when they when they lose like some people do. No,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's great for the city. The city is

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<v Speaker 5>more upbeat on a Monday after they win on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all I'm saying. It's great economically, it's great for restaurants, bars,

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<v Speaker 5>everything to do with the city. It's great. Everybody's in

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<v Speaker 5>a happier mood, and that's why I want them to win. Economically,

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<v Speaker 5>it is better. I look at the money aspect, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's that's what it's all about. When they lose his

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<v Speaker 5>finger pointing, it's negativity. It's fired this guy. I never

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<v Speaker 5>want to see people get fired. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 5>great to have you know what I call beer muscles,

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<v Speaker 5>sit behind the microphone and say Zach Taylor should be fired.

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<v Speaker 5>I know. I don't want to see anybody get fired. No,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not it's not right. It's justally this time of

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<v Speaker 5>the year. So winning is good and winning is healthy.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to see it happen here. And I'll tell

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<v Speaker 5>you this much. Zach Taylor is a good guy. He is.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got some bad luck he's got.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't think there's any question of the

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<v Speaker 3>man's character as a person, as a human being. He's

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<v Speaker 3>probably a wonderful man. But a lot of a lot

0:24:54.480 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 3>of wonderful men aren't cut out to be head coaches

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 3>in the NFL, and Zach Taylor happens to be one

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 3>of those men who are.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's funny you say that because I look at

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 5>Kevin Stefanski and I think he's a heck of a coach.

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 5>Heck of a coach. You know what, you don't have

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.640
<v Speaker 5>a quarterback in the National Football League, you ain't gonna win.

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<v Speaker 5>They have nothing. They have nothing in Cleveland. Stefanski is

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty damn good coach. What about John Harbor not

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 5>a good coach? In Baltimore? I mean, Lamar Jackson's got

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 5>like one leg. I mean, if you don't have a quarterback,

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:30.720
<v Speaker 5>you're not gonna win. And I will tell you this

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 5>much the outstanding coaches right now, and I see Ben

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 5>Johnson's wan hell of a coach. What he has done

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:36.639
<v Speaker 5>in Chicago.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>He lost, He lost this weekend too.

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 5>No no doubt about it. But look good. They won

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.120
<v Speaker 5>nine games and coming into the season, his quarterback said,

0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 5>Chicago is a place for this unused quarterbacks, the quarterback

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 5>haven for for death. All right, look what he's done.

0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.359
<v Speaker 5>He's turned that program around. Him and Mike Vrabel probably

0:25:56.400 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 5>the two best coaches in the National Football League, and

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<v Speaker 5>one of those two is going to be Coach of

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<v Speaker 5>the Year this year, most likely Rabel. I think, well

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 5>maybe Johnson, because Rabel had a truck regular doing well

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 5>prior to coming to New England. Where Ben Johnson. This

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<v Speaker 5>is his first year as a head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you say all that, and you mentioned John Harball

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 3>and Mike Tomlin. Damn good coach, just not having a

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 3>great year.

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>And you've got to have a quarter his quarterback.

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 5>You gotta have quarterback. Really, I mean, if you don't

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 5>have a quarterback, that position is so.

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<v Speaker 1>Old I'm talking about.

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about over the extended period of time they

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 3>have been had coaches. Zach Taylor still as a losing record.

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 3>He didn't win a super Bowl. He got he rode

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 3>the coat tails of Joe Burrow to a seatout.

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 5>He didn't win a super Bowl. He made it to

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 5>the super Bowl.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:54.360
<v Speaker 3>John Harball won a super Bowl and Cleveland and they

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 3>never win.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter who the coach is or the quarterback.

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 5>It's Cleveland quarterback since they moved.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.479
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter. I can't find the correct quarterback. That's

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<v Speaker 5>the problem.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:14.360
<v Speaker 3>They can't find their behind with two hands, a flashlight

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 3>and a full length mirror.

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.040
<v Speaker 5>And I'm about to Pittsburgh for a second. I love

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 5>Mike Tomlin and he's a Hall of Fame coach.

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 1>He's coached, won a Super Bowl, won a super Bowl.

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 5>To get about super bowls out talk about winning records

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 5>and going to the playoffs. Super Bowls is a very

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 5>difficult thing to obtain. You know, the fans in Cincinnati

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.719
<v Speaker 5>after the Bengals made it to the Super Bowl, they

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:34.919
<v Speaker 5>thought they were going to go on a run. It

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 5>doesn't work that way. Injuries are a factor, and the

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 5>competition is just too tough. It's very tough to repeat.

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 5>And the more they see that, the more they realize

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 5>what a great coach Bill Belichick was, what a great

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:47.199
<v Speaker 5>coach he was.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, You're right about one thing, Andy, Well, you're

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.239
<v Speaker 3>right about several things. But the one thing you were

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:57.240
<v Speaker 3>right about is that competition is tough in the NFL.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 4>It is the league set up like that?

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 5>Because if you you get the first trag.

0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 3>And Zach Taylor, and Zach Taylor gets out coached in

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 3>almost every.

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Game, what does that mean?

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 5>You know what? I hear that term all the time.

0:28:10.320 --> 0:28:13.440
<v Speaker 5>I won't know what does that mean? Out coached? Is

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 5>a coach playing this the other coach? Tell me what

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 5>that mean? Was he out coached? When when Joe Burrow

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 5>through two interceptions? Is that being out coached. Tell me

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 5>I want to know, because I think it's a term

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 5>that's thrown out there verbatim by many people, sports people

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 5>and nonsports people. The thing is a cool thing to say, Well,

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 5>yeah it is.

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 3>It is clock, It is clock management. It is the

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 3>use of timeouts. It is decisions that are made. It

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 3>is whether there are halftime adjustments made. And the Bengals

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 3>hardly ever make good halftime adjustments going into the second half.

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they were clearly a leader in the first half,

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:57.840
<v Speaker 3>But who made the adjustments. The Buffalo Bills made the adjustments.

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Plus they were at an adjustments that they made.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Plus they don't have much. Plus they have a better

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>coach than Zach Taylor. Sean McDermott.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you this much. I'll give you this. There

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 5>was a problem the coaching stide of the Bengals. They

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 5>played Manton man defense and the secondary against a great

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 5>quarterback and Josh Allen, okay, gotta play. Don't you'll play

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 5>man man out, coach, It's not out coach. It was

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 5>a philosophy they used, and they wanted to play Manton man.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 3>Out, philosophized out, philotsified whatever you want to call it Andy.

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 5>It didn't work. It didn't work.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Zack Taylor is a night Let's just go back to

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 3>the beginning and let's finish this on a positive note.

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor is a nice man. And and

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>that's where all ended. Right there. He's a nice I.

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 5>Will tell you that. No, no, don't end it right there.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Because man teams in the National Football League. I don't

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 5>think there's much of a difference in football knowledge beatween

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 5>coach one and coach thirty two. There isn't. It's all

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 5>about personnel and talented quarterbacks. That's where it's at. And

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 5>you know what, I know, that's what it's all about.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 5>You got a quarterback, you got a chance to win.

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 5>Bengals couldn't win. They got Joe Borrow, they won. He

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 5>got hurt and there's some problems on the defensive side

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 5>of the ball. Boom, that's what's going on. It's not

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 5>the coaching. It isn't believe me, it's not the coach.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 5>I promise you.

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's you know.

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 3>And since we already played tabs, which I was really against,

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 3>let's not dance on their grave now.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Andy, I feel sorry for him.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Let's not whistle past the graveyard. Let's not whistle past

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 3>the graveyard. Let's just move on God all right for

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 3>a ball? Thanks, It's the Nightcap and there's much more

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 3>ahead on seven underd W l w Our hour of

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<v Speaker 3>Sports for the out of Sorts continues now with the

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>original sports commando, the guy on the Billboard. When's he

0:30:55.160 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 3>going back? A big, big gang member and the guy

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 3>that people knew it Annie's as the wild Man. In fact,

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 3>we all knew him as a wild Man because that's

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>his name, wild Man Walker is back on the Nightcap.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, man?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm doing good. Gary, Jeff? How about you Pal?

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, hanging in there as best I can. Got

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot to do with Christmas coming up and everything,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 3>and it's just I love this time of year, but

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I hate it at the same time because there's so

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>much stuff that gets crammed into a little bit of

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>amount of time. And I don't do a lot of

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Christmas shopping because I don't have a lot of money

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.960
<v Speaker 3>and it's just me and my wife. Basically, what do

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>you get my parents they're eighty nine and eighty eight,

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 3>and they have everything that they could possibly want or need,

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 3>so we're gonna we're gonna try and visit them overnight

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 3>on Christmas.

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, But I mean, it's just.

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Don't you feel like it's really hurried and harried for

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people this time and you're just trying

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>to squeeze things in before the beginning of the year.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 6>I think it's been that way since the birth of

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 6>the internet for some reason. Yeah, people people shopping online

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 6>and then going to the stores also, But it is

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 6>just the way everybody wants something. They want everything. Everybody

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 6>wants everything real quick. Everything, I gotta have it now,

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 6>I gotta have it now. It's like everybody just, you know,

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 6>take it, take a deep breath, man, and relax, you know,

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 6>especially during the Christmas season.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like when there's a new iPhone or something and

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 3>people lined up around the block.

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's a phone.

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 3>You gotta have it, you gotta have it now, and

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>you got to have it first before anybody else. And

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>then you're standing in line like a bunch of dorks.

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 6>Or sheep sheep.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Out in the cold.

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 3>The only difference between the only difference between them and

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 3>sheep sheep actually have a fur coat that they can

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 3>wear when it's this cold when it's as cold, all right,

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 3>So let's get to the meat of the matter here,

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 3>the crux of the conversation. As we like to say,

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals are done, except they're not.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 6>Exactly. There's still a slight chance for the Bengals to

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 6>make the playoffs, but it's gonna take almost a couple

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 6>of teams to cooperate and the Bengals to win out.

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, they've got to beat the Ravens this Sunday.

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 6>Then they gotta go down to Miami, who's playing a

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 6>little bit better, and beat the Dolphins.

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 3>By the way that that game has now been flexed,

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 3>the Miami game, it's gonna be probably a one o'clock

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 3>game now it has.

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 6>Been changed back to one o'clock. Then they've got to

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 6>beat Arizona, who stings, and also the Browns with Tradura

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 6>sanders Uh at the at pay Horse Stadium.

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's entirely possible.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 3>The Bengals could run the table with the teams they've

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 3>got left, win four in a row. They're eight and nine, Okay,

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Baltimore takes another loss. If Baltimore is also eight and nine,

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 3>were God forbid and Ravens country seven and ten and

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>the Steelers are eight and nine. The Bengals have a

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 3>better division record, so they would be the representative from

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 3>the AFC North in the playoffs.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 6>Right, they would win a tiebreaker. And then when I'm

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 6>looking at the Ravens schedule of who they got to

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.720
<v Speaker 6>play and also the Steelers, I think the Ravens still.

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Have to play the Patriots. Oh, and the Steelers have.

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 6>To play the Lions. I mean, so that I could

0:34:32.120 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 6>work in favor for the Bengals. And of course the

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 6>final game of the year, the Ravens play the Steelers

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 6>in Pittsburgh, which could determine the bengals fate. You know,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 6>Pittsburgh is not unbeatable. I mean, they're okay, and I

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 6>would think the Ravens would want to go out on

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 6>the winning note to knock them off, which would help

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 6>the Bengals.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, what I think would be good is the Bengals

0:34:55.120 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 3>run the table these final four games Baltimore. One of

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 3>the losses is Baltimore's tagged on their end. Pittsburgh loses

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 3>and uh, and then the Steelers and Ravens play to

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 3>a tie.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 6>Well play to a tie. That's now that that's reaching.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 6>That that's reaching, that's reaching. But there's still there's still

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 6>a slight chance. And you know, the guys have you know,

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 6>I know there's there's there's a couple of talking heads

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to say who they are that that

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 6>went on the air Sunday night and said, what do

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 6>the Bengals have to play for?

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 5>Now?

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 6>Why would you make a dumb comment like that? What

0:35:36.600 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 6>do the Bengals have to play for? Well, number one,

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 6>they're professionals, and number two, they don't want to lose.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 6>They're not going out there just want to lose.

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 5>They want to win.

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 6>I don't care if you're fifteen, you want you're gonna

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.280
<v Speaker 6>go out there and try to win. The BIGA comment,

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 6>what do the Bengals have to play for? Well, obviously

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 6>they don't really know what the hell they're talking about.

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 3>What did Hey, what did the Tennessee Titans have to

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 3>play for on Sunday? It's a game on the schedule.

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 3>That's why you play the game because it's on the

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 3>schedule and you're obligated to do it.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And as a man, an.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Athlete, someone who was proud, you want to win every

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 3>time you go out no matter what your record is

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.959
<v Speaker 3>I mean right right, and if.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 6>You half assid you might be unemployed next year?

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 3>You should be if you're half assn't it at those

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:29.879
<v Speaker 3>salary ranges? Uh so, Yeah, I think that's an extremely,

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 3>uh nonsensical comment for someone to make.

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.680
<v Speaker 6>I considered idiotic when I heard them say that.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, nonsensical, idiotic. Okay, I'll go with that, no kidd.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:50.760
<v Speaker 3>So what about the college football playoffs setup? I'm still

0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I understand and yet I don't. They couldn't let a

0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:01.279
<v Speaker 3>fifth SEC team in. But Vanderbilt Commodores deserve to be

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 3>there as as much as anybody else outside of maybe

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:06.760
<v Speaker 3>the top four, don't you think?

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:07.879
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 6>I think they deserved it. I think Notre Dame deserved it,

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 6>even though they lost to Miami. But you know, and

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 6>I you know, I see James Madison in there. But

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:18.320
<v Speaker 6>that's the way the conferences are. I just like James Madison,

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 6>what the hell do you know?

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:20.839
<v Speaker 6>Like they have no chance?

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Might as might as well be Dolly Madison.

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.879
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, a Notre Dame. To me, they really did

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 6>a disservice to their to their players and their alumni.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 6>But not playing in some kind of bowl game, I mean,

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's a big deal. I'm not going to

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 6>understand they're upset, okay, whatever, but just just to say no, no,

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 6>And then and they made a big stink about how

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, how they may not how they may ever

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 6>men ever play another bowl game again, I think that's

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 6>the sour grapes. And then they should be playing a

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 6>bowl game somewhere because those fans would show up, They

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 6>would make the school would make money, the players would

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 6>get another chance to win a game and be showcase

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 6>where scouts to possibly playing on the National Football League.

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 3>On their parts, the wild man, it's it's the same

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:08.719
<v Speaker 3>old thing with the Irish. When are they going to

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 3>get off of their butts and go ahead and join

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 3>one of these.

0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Huge conference they have exactly.

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what, and this is a positive thing, is

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.600
<v Speaker 3>that finally Notre Dame may be forced if they want

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:27.040
<v Speaker 3>to be considered for the college football playoff system, to

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 3>join a conference and have to play the same level

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 3>of competition that the people in the SEC do on

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 3>a week to week basis during the conference schedule Big Ten,

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.080
<v Speaker 3>all of the the Big twelve, they have to play

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the teams that matter, so they will in fact matter

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 3>in the ultimate analysis.

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>You think that's right?

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.720
<v Speaker 6>The bright side, yeah, well, but on the bright side,

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 6>you see is going to a bowl game, woo the

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.359
<v Speaker 6>Liberty Bowl and of all places one of the worst

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 6>cities of the Memphis. Have fun people going to Memphis.

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 6>And why didn't you see a Navy play? Now, Miami

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 6>of Ohio is playing the Fredsno State. They're playing in

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 6>the Snoop Dog Bowl, which is kind of a goofy,

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 6>goofy name, and I'm going to get to that in

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 6>a minute. But they're playing in Arizona. But you see

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 6>in the Liberty Bowl against Navy, I got big word

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.439
<v Speaker 6>for you.

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Well well, and and the and the real downside to this,

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.879
<v Speaker 3>wild man is that they may very well get beat

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 3>by Navy because Navy had a really good year.

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but how about some of the you know, we

0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 6>grew up Gary, Jeff, me, you and I with the

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 6>Orange Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, the Gator Bowl.

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>The Peach Bowl.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's it's it's out of control. I mean, here's

0:39:49.200 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 6>some names. You're gonna just crack up. Here's some of

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 6>the names I found that they've got bowl games. Now, okay,

0:39:55.800 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 6>buckled up, l a Bowl, the Xbox Bowl, Sign of

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 6>the times?

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 3>What else? Oh, wild Man disappeared? I tell you what

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 3>we will. We will get him back on the line

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 3>in just a moment. He was on a roll too,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>So wild Man's back on the line. Now. You were

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:22.240
<v Speaker 3>giving me some of the new fangled bowl game names.

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I think you stopped. You dropped out of the X Bowl.

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 3>What what else can we look forward to this college

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 3>football bowl season?

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Wild Man?

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 6>The Rate Bowl, r A D, the Rate Bowl, the

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 6>Pop Tarts Ball where the Snoop dogg Arizona Ball? Come on, Man, Tony,

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 6>the Tiger Suck Bowl, the Cheese its Citrus Bawl. I mean,

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 6>it just never ends, It just never ends. Well, college

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 6>football is a mess.

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 3>They ought to find a sponsor that more readily matches

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 3>up to citrus than cheese. It's cheese. It's and citrus

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 3>sound awful together. I mean, I don't. I don't want

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 3>my fresh squeeze orange juice with cheese. It's I'm sorry,

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 3>it just doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Pardon the pun. The Pop Tarts Bowl, of course, that's classic.

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, the college football is a complete mess. I mean

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs system. I don't think they'll ever have. That

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 6>will never be perfect, but it is what it is

0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 6>with the twelve teams. And maybe they don't hear they'll

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 6>expanded the sixteen. But you can't have you.

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 3>Can't have you can't have computers deciding who's number one

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 3>and number two. You've got to play it on the field,

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 3>I think. And maybe they should just open it up.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 3>And the entire month of December is nothing but play

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 3>in games for the for the actual playoff.

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 6>Well, it's all it's all about the money. It's all

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:55.400
<v Speaker 6>about the money. And then maybe they're thinking down the

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 6>road and they'll do that because it's all about the

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.960
<v Speaker 6>money in college football. Like I said, college football is

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 6>a mess with the nil signings and them and whatnot,

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.520
<v Speaker 6>and it's just a mess, it really is.

0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So were the Reds mess?

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 6>Well, the Reds aren't a mess, but they still need

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 6>a power hitter. And I knew, damn well they weren't

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 6>going to go out and signed Carl Schwarb or let

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 6>us Man was not going to add thirty million dollars

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 6>to the payroll. And I just laughed. I just laughed

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.600
<v Speaker 6>at these these know it all writers posting stuff up

0:42:25.640 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 6>and something would stick that the Reds were interested. Kyle

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 6>Swarber was never leaving Philadelphia. GM Dave Dombrowski said from

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 6>day one that they wanted him to stay, that he

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 6>was important to the team, that he loved Philadelphia, and

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 6>they went out and took care and signed and signed

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 6>him to a five year, one hundred and thirty million

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:48.279
<v Speaker 6>dollars deal. The Reds weren't going down that road. The Pirates, supposedly,

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 6>if you could believe these know it all writers, offered

0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.680
<v Speaker 6>him one hundred million dollars over four years. Maybe they did,

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 6>I don't know, But the Reds they weren't gonna they

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 6>weren't gonna add thirty million dollars to the payroll. Come on,

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 6>that's not gonna happen. I'm not going to do it.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, think about the Reds experience of the last thirty

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 3>years of big time contracts and how those have wound

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 3>up working out for the Reds.

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, And I don't blame the Reds. Yeah, newskis Homer Bailey,

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean just down the line.

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean, and I understand Jeremy came, Jeremy Candelario.

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 6>They still gotta pay.

0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I understand them.

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>With the history and the sentiment and the playing of

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Ken Griffy Junior.

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>But junior.

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, really, for the money that they had to

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 3>pay kN Griffy Junior, was he really worth that? I mean,

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>you love kN Griffy Junior, great player, all well, all star,

0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, Hall of Famer, but still, I mean you

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.399
<v Speaker 3>pay that kind of money just on the back.

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well they deferred that money. Gary Jeff and Ken

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 6>Griffor J's offense. The guy hit two hundred and ten

0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 6>home runs here, not like that. You know, he didn't produced.

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 6>He did produce, But the Reds had no pitching. The

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:06.719
<v Speaker 6>Reds had they had Steve Paris and a couple other bums.

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 6>They had no pitching. It wasn't Ken Grippy's fault that

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.040
<v Speaker 6>they weren't winning games. They had no pitching when they

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 6>brought Ken Griffy Jr.

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:13.279
<v Speaker 5>In.

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 6>And that's on the Reds of not being able to

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 6>make trades or develop pitchers. Ken Grippy Jr. Did his job,

0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 6>not to the extent that when he was in in Seattle,

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 6>but you know, he had a pretty damn good career

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 6>with the Cincinnati Reds.

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 3>The last two minutes wild Man back to the Bengals.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 3>Just for a moment, I heard someone, I think it

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 3>was a caller blaming Joe Burrow for the loss to

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.320
<v Speaker 3>the Bills on Sunday, and.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 6>Well, he needs he needs to put down and stopped

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.200
<v Speaker 6>smoking those math blunts, because.

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that was aine comment.

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 6>Well, I mean, the thing that really still burns me

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 6>to this threat now, Gary jeff with the with the

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.319
<v Speaker 6>Bengals is when Josh Allen was able to run not

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 6>once but twice, once for a touchdown on scathed and

0:44:57.640 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 6>the other time for a first down in the game.

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 6>Why they did not have a so called spy on

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 6>Josh Allen. You know what he's gonna do. It's it

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 6>just wasn't the first time that he'll try to do this.

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 6>And here's here's Zach Taylor, the head coach of the

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:15.600
<v Speaker 6>Cincinnati Bengals. What is he doing when the defense is

0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.279
<v Speaker 6>on the field. Is he coaching? Is he looking at things?

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 6>Does he see anything? Does he talk to Al Golden

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 6>and say, hey, we got to have it a spy on?

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:26.439
<v Speaker 6>Uh on Josh Allen. I don't get that at all.

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean I blame a lot of that on the

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 6>head coach of not having these guys you know, prepared

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 6>or you know, you gotta be thinking outside the box

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 6>and not to have a spy, not to have a

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 6>spinal Josh Allen was just so dumb, just.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Dumb, wild man.

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.759
<v Speaker 3>I agree, But at that point, we gotta go, We

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 3>gotta go, We got to go.

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.879
<v Speaker 1>We got to go, man, we got to go.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 4>Well.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 6>Always good talking with.

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 3>You, man, you two merry Christmas. Will probably have another

0:45:55.080 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 3>bi bite at the Apple next week. Here on the

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Nightcap on seven hundred w A into another hour of

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the night Tap. You're on seven hundred WLW and it's

0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 3>another edition of great American history on the radio, and

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 3>we have another living piece of that American radio history

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 3>with us for this hour, and it's somebody that you

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.920
<v Speaker 3>may not have ever heard of in Cincinnati. I don't

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 3>know if you're listening here in the Tri State. If

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>you're listening in Middle Tennessee, no doubt, and you're a

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:36.680
<v Speaker 3>sports fan, you've heard this guy or heard of him

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:40.000
<v Speaker 3>at least. But he was one of the voices that

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:43.319
<v Speaker 3>kept me entertained when I lived in the Nashville area,

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 3>worked there on the radio, and lived there, and he

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 3>was also on the radio there for many years as

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 3>the play by play guy for Vanderbilt Sports primarily I

0:46:56.120 --> 0:47:00.399
<v Speaker 3>guess basketball, but football too, Georgia correct me, he needs

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 3>to and and then a sports talk host at several stations.

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 3>He went on to do games for Memphis State at

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 3>at a later date, and he is still active today

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:19.360
<v Speaker 3>doing podcast and such, and tonight he's doing mine.

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>George Plaster, the master.

0:47:22.440 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Plaster Blaster is back if he if he spoke French,

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 3>he'd be Plaster of Paris, I'm certain.

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.439
<v Speaker 1>But the puns. But the puns out of the way,

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>George Plaster.

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 7>Welcome to the nightcap, Gary Chef Walker, the pleasure is

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:45.600
<v Speaker 7>totally mine. First of all, you're sitting there on one

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 7>of the great radio stations in this country. I'm one

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:54.399
<v Speaker 7>of those radio junkies just like you were. And as

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 7>a kid I grew up listening to w l W

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 7>Marty Brenneman show, nusall. I even am old enough to

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 7>remember al Michaels. You all had or and probably still have,

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 7>some of the best imaging that I have ever heard

0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 7>in radio. Whoever the guy is that does the big one,

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 7>that is one of the best imaging.

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Going in radio period, Well, sounds like you were auditioning

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 3>there for a second, Georgia, maybe there's a slot open

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 3>for you.

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:35.439
<v Speaker 6>The Big One, No, you know what, Big One.

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 3>That is part and parcel of the fact the WLW,

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 3>as you may or may not know, actually broadcast with

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.880
<v Speaker 3>five hundred thousand watts at one time back in the

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirties, we had the first and only experimental half

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 3>million WAT transmitter. So that's part of the Big Big

0:48:55.600 --> 0:49:00.360
<v Speaker 3>One mystique. But another large component of that was when Andy,

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 3>when Randy Michaels came here in the nineteen eighties, and

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 3>shape at that time WLW was kind of drifting. It

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.439
<v Speaker 3>was playing music. It was kind of middle of the road,

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 3>top forty music, and they still had the farm reports

0:49:16.320 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 3>in the morning and all these other things were going on,

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>but it wasn't the block formatted talk station that it

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 3>is today. And Randy Michaels kind of changed all that

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:33.320
<v Speaker 3>in the mid nineteen eighties, and he wanted that bravado emphasized,

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 3>and he wanted that the Big One to you know,

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:41.799
<v Speaker 3>shout across the valleys into the hamlets. And because the

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 3>signal just goes everywhere, it's a monster signal, as you know,

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 3>and you're right about the voices that have graced these

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 3>airwaves over the years. I mean, I am completely humbled

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 3>and going what am I doing here? Almost on a

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:02.319
<v Speaker 3>daily basis, George, But you mentioned Marty Brenneman, the old

0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:07.000
<v Speaker 3>left handed Joe Nuxell, al Michaels, who you can still

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:12.280
<v Speaker 3>hear on Sunday Night Football on NBC, the late Bob Trumpy,

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 3>probably one of the deepest voices ever to grace the

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 3>big one. He was called, he was called, he was

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:29.000
<v Speaker 3>called Darth Vader. You know, Chris, Chris Collinsworth got his

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:33.720
<v Speaker 3>radio start here, and on tonight's show earlier, I spoke

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 3>with my buddy Andy Furman, who was a long time

0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've ever met or heard.

0:50:37.960 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 7>Any Oh sure, oh absolutely, Andy's great. That name another one, Cunningham.

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Here, Bill Cunningham.

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:52.360
<v Speaker 7>Those are yeah, it's a little bit like KMOX and

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:58.320
<v Speaker 7>Saint Louis where radio junkies who know anything about fifty

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:04.440
<v Speaker 7>thousand lock clear channel on the AM dial are These

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 7>are the great legends, and.

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Many of them are in trouble.

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:13.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean WLW has survived and actually thrived. I mean

0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 3>in the market, listenership, advertising, all of those things. We're

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 3>still right there, thank God. But there are a lot

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:27.759
<v Speaker 3>of those fifty thousand watt stations that have gone for

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 3>one reason or another, not just technological, but other reasons.

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 3>They've gone by the boards, and they're not the monsters

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 3>that they used to be.

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Used to be.

0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:42.360
<v Speaker 3>On one of Nashville's fifty thousand waters on fifteen to

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 3>ten WLAC, I think that's where I probably heard you

0:51:47.000 --> 0:51:51.720
<v Speaker 3>calling Vanderbilt basketball games and occasionally doing some sports talk there.

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about WLAC back in the day and your

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 3>work for Vandy. Of course, you know from my twenty

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.919
<v Speaker 3>years in Middleton to see, I'm still a Vandy fan

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:05.879
<v Speaker 3>and I've been just loving what's digging, what's been going

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:09.799
<v Speaker 3>on this season. Tell me about your day's calling play

0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:14.280
<v Speaker 3>by play for Vanderbilt. Who's who is the best Vandy

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 3>basketball player you ever called a game for?

0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:19.520
<v Speaker 1>When you were there? While you were doing.

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:27.080
<v Speaker 7>It, Will Purdue, it was at a time where Vanderbilt

0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:30.680
<v Speaker 7>basketball had sort of taken a little bit of a

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:36.840
<v Speaker 7>dive and the legendary C. M. Newton was the coach.

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:42.520
<v Speaker 7>Sam Newton became for me like a second father, finest

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 7>man I've ever met in athletics, just a very decent

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 7>human being, and he had the foresight to sort of

0:52:55.480 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 7>fight through letting Will Purdue develop, and by Will Purdue's

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 7>junior year, you know, here's a seven footer that ultimately

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 7>gets drafted. I think it was ninth in the in

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.120
<v Speaker 7>the I guess it was the eighty nine NBA draft.

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:17.799
<v Speaker 7>He and Rick Smith's were the two big centers. And

0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:22.440
<v Speaker 7>Will lives in Louisville right now. We've stayed really good

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 7>friends over all these years. But I would say I

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:33.279
<v Speaker 7>would say Will Purdue. Barry Goheen was another one who

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 7>I know you've had on your show before.

0:53:35.640 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>We called him.

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:40.080
<v Speaker 3>We called him me and my friends who were Vandy

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 3>staunch Vandy basketball, called him Barry go In because it

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.799
<v Speaker 3>seemed like a crucial situations if he had the ball

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 3>in his hands, it was going in.

0:53:50.200 --> 0:53:54.359
<v Speaker 7>He hit about six buzzer beaters in his career, one

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 7>of those being a three pointer at the buzzer in

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 7>the NCAA tournament. While that was going on, I was

0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:07.959
<v Speaker 7>at what at the time was Memphis State and we

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 7>roll into Cincinnati in the old Cincinnati Garden. This would

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 7>have been in January of nineteen eighty eight, and there

0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:20.000
<v Speaker 7>are two people in the arena two and a half

0:54:20.080 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 7>hours before the game, me and a guy named Marty Brenneman,

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 7>and I spent about fifteen minutes getting up the nerve

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.600
<v Speaker 7>to go up and speak to him and just say, Hey,

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:38.440
<v Speaker 7>I'm a huge fan, I've been listening to you for years,

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:44.520
<v Speaker 7>and he could not have been more gracious. This sort

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:50.080
<v Speaker 7>of spawned a friendship over the years. And you know,

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 7>you talk about the great signal at WLW, my buddy

0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:59.400
<v Speaker 7>Eli Gold, who was the longtime play by play voice

0:55:00.320 --> 0:55:04.760
<v Speaker 7>of the Alabama Crimson Tide, calls me in the summer

0:55:04.800 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 7>of two thousand and six. I was having some really

0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 7>serious voice issues. That was basically a pull up on

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:17.360
<v Speaker 7>a vocal cord, and he goes, get to a radio,

0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:21.880
<v Speaker 7>get in your car. Marty is about to say hello

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 7>to you and wish you a speedy recovery. And that

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:30.239
<v Speaker 7>was so cool. You know, Marty didn't have to do that,

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:35.799
<v Speaker 7>but not only a Hall of Fame broadcaster, but a

0:55:35.840 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 7>guy whose friendship, boy, I have really enjoyed over the years.

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.560
<v Speaker 3>One of the first things that I heard as a

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:49.279
<v Speaker 3>young adolescent and teenager when our family moved to Nashville

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy three, seventy four, dating myself. Here was

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Vandy basketball in the radio, and you know, I was

0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:59.840
<v Speaker 3>a dx er. I was a radio geek like you

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:03.919
<v Speaker 3>reference being as a kid, I wanted to tune into

0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 3>far away stations. I found this local station and I

0:56:06.440 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 3>love basketball. I was just starting to play and I

0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 3>heard Vandy basketball, and for some reason I was just

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:17.240
<v Speaker 3>captivated and became a fan. And this was the days

0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:22.880
<v Speaker 3>of Terry Compton and you know later on Butch Fear

0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 3>and Jeff Fosness and all these great names in Vandy

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Speaker 3>basketball or and I got hooked into listening to the

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 3>broadcast and that's how you know, years later I got

0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 3>to hear George Plaster doing play by play on the air.

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 1>And so wow.

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:43.800
<v Speaker 3>But that being said, you and I were talking about

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 3>tuning in d x ing. And by the way, the

0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:51.840
<v Speaker 3>things that you said about C. M. Newton, everyone that

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:55.879
<v Speaker 3>I have known, including our mutual friend Scott Droud, has

0:56:55.920 --> 0:56:58.319
<v Speaker 3>said the same thing about CM. He just had that

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of effect on people where you felt like he

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 3>was he was a wise and soul. He was like

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.080
<v Speaker 3>a second father. He was just that guy you could

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 3>go to if you had something going on. And Marty

0:57:11.840 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Brenneman has never been anything but absolutely generous with his

0:57:17.600 --> 0:57:23.080
<v Speaker 3>time and nice to be around. And you're right, Marty

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 3>will say or do anything, especially if it's for you

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 3>and he knows you. He was my first guest when

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.320
<v Speaker 3>I started doing this night show on seven hundred wup,

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 3>my very first one.

0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>YEP.

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 3>I said, I want Marty as my first guest, and

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 3>he agreed to come on for a few minutes. But so,

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, talk a little bit, or let's talk a

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 3>little bit, George about what is going on with the

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Vandy football program. Since you're still there in Nashville, you're

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 3>still close to the action. I mean, what are your

0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:06.400
<v Speaker 3>thoughts on the season that Clark Lee and Vandy just

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:10.400
<v Speaker 3>concluded what kind of bowl game they'll be playing. And

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>it's a damn travesty that they couldn't pull that game

0:58:14.840 --> 0:58:17.240
<v Speaker 3>out against Texas or they'd be one of the twelve.

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 3>I know they would, Yeah, but the whole mystiq of

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Diego Pavia, who I said reminded me a lot the

0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.120
<v Speaker 3>way he played and the success he had of a

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Manzel, and I find out later on that they're

0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:35.240
<v Speaker 3>kind of hanging out as buddies.

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, your thoughts.

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 7>George, Yeah, let's start with Pavia. I don't know that

0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:46.440
<v Speaker 7>Pavia is gonna win the Heisman Trophy. My gut feeling

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 7>is it's going to be Fernando Mendoza at Indiana, but

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 7>I think it's going to be very, very close. It

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:59.160
<v Speaker 7>royally hacked me off Saturday night. Two announcers that I

0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:04.560
<v Speaker 7>really like, Us Johnson and Joel Kladd on Fox were

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:09.520
<v Speaker 7>total shills for the Big Ten in that telecast, which

0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:13.400
<v Speaker 7>was a Big Ten title game. But this hole, the

0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 7>Heisman Trophy has come down to Fernando Mendoza and Julian saying,

0:59:19.640 --> 0:59:26.000
<v Speaker 7>give me a break, Diego. Pavia has earned the right

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.480
<v Speaker 7>to be put in that conversation, and for those two

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:35.760
<v Speaker 7>to have the platform that they did Saturday night and

0:59:35.840 --> 0:59:39.320
<v Speaker 7>act like he didn't exist. I don't want to be

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 7>ugly about it because Joel saying the kid at Ohio

0:59:43.880 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 7>State is a fine quarterback. Do I believe that he

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 7>could get under center at Vandy and lead them to

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:58.480
<v Speaker 7>a ten and two record. Absolutely not. I'm not trying

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:02.720
<v Speaker 7>to be a homer, but Bandy football has never been

1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:06.600
<v Speaker 7>an easy deal. So go back a couple of years ago,

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:13.440
<v Speaker 7>Clark Lee, who's their head football coach, hired Jerry Kill,

1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:18.120
<v Speaker 7>who had been the head coach at New Mexico State,

1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:21.440
<v Speaker 7>and I don't really know why he was willing to

1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:25.960
<v Speaker 7>leave there, but Clark Lee talked him into coming Andy.

1:00:27.000 --> 1:00:32.919
<v Speaker 7>They also brought their offensive coordinator, Tim Beck, and then

1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:37.520
<v Speaker 7>they started talking about this kid, Diego Pavia. And Vandy

1:00:37.560 --> 1:00:41.240
<v Speaker 7>had already signed a kid, Nate Johnson out of Utah

1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:45.600
<v Speaker 7>who couldn't throw a lick, and Jerry Kill kept on

1:00:45.840 --> 1:00:50.400
<v Speaker 7>them about need to see this kid, Diego Pavia, and

1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:55.400
<v Speaker 7>finally Clark Lee said, Okay, you know, let's bring him

1:00:55.400 --> 1:01:00.080
<v Speaker 7>in here. Well, I had seen Diego Pavia in the

1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 7>Conference USA ESPN Tuesday and Wednesday night games, and I

1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:10.280
<v Speaker 7>knew he was for real. Now, I didn't know he

1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:15.600
<v Speaker 7>would have this kind of impact because he has walked

1:01:15.640 --> 1:01:18.120
<v Speaker 7>in there, and I think there are a couple of

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:22.720
<v Speaker 7>things he's done. The obvious is what you see when

1:01:22.760 --> 1:01:26.960
<v Speaker 7>you watch his games, which is he's elevated Vandy to

1:01:27.000 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 7>a level nobody ever saw.

1:01:29.840 --> 1:01:32.320
<v Speaker 3>You want to talk about a quarterback carrying a team

1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:34.920
<v Speaker 3>on his back, absolutely, that's the definition.

1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:35.520
<v Speaker 1>George.

1:01:35.680 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 3>I tell you what I need to break up, come

1:01:39.040 --> 1:01:41.200
<v Speaker 3>back and join me in the next half hour and

1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:46.280
<v Speaker 3>we'll do more of this. George Plaster fantastic sports guy

1:01:47.120 --> 1:01:50.720
<v Speaker 3>out of Nashville, Tennessee, where I first heard him, and

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:54.560
<v Speaker 3>he's been gracious enough to stick around for another segment

1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:59.360
<v Speaker 3>on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Time for part

1:01:59.400 --> 1:02:03.600
<v Speaker 3>two of our conversation with George Plaster. It's American History

1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:06.120
<v Speaker 3>on the radio, and hopefully we're making some tonight. I

1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.040
<v Speaker 3>don't know if this broadcast is going to go in

1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:12.400
<v Speaker 3>any Hall of Fame, but we were talking about Diego

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:16.160
<v Speaker 3>Pavia carrying Vanderbilt literally on his back this year to

1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:20.080
<v Speaker 3>a ten and two record, and he really really should

1:02:20.120 --> 1:02:23.360
<v Speaker 3>have been the Heisman front runner of everybody I watched.

1:02:23.600 --> 1:02:28.240
<v Speaker 3>You're referencing Julian Sands, the freshman at Ohio State, and

1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of buddies who are Buckeye fans,

1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:35.800
<v Speaker 3>but I'm sorry, he has done nothing to deserve to

1:02:35.920 --> 1:02:41.000
<v Speaker 3>be striking that pose on a trophy. And I mean,

1:02:41.520 --> 1:02:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Fernando Mendoza, I'll give it, you know, kind of had

1:02:45.640 --> 1:02:50.480
<v Speaker 3>the same effect on Indiana along with that whole team.

1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:55.200
<v Speaker 3>But Diego Pavia is a one man wrecking ball. Any

1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:57.320
<v Speaker 3>other thoughts, real quickly on that and we'll move on.

1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:02.160
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think the contribution he made that never gets

1:03:02.200 --> 1:03:06.080
<v Speaker 7>talked about. I'm convinced he walked in there a year

1:03:06.120 --> 1:03:09.640
<v Speaker 7>and a half ago to a program that was used

1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:14.120
<v Speaker 7>to losing, and when that happens in a locker room,

1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:19.800
<v Speaker 7>losing doesn't hurt. Losing's okay, losings acceptable. And I think

1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:23.200
<v Speaker 7>he walked in there and said screw that. I didn't

1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:26.680
<v Speaker 7>come here to lose. And I think he's done more

1:03:27.200 --> 1:03:32.680
<v Speaker 7>to change the attitude around their football program. And I

1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:36.280
<v Speaker 7>think it's almost as big a contribution as what he's

1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:37.200
<v Speaker 7>done on the field.

1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:42.760
<v Speaker 3>H Yeah, I didn't think about it in that terms.

1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:46.280
<v Speaker 3>In those terms, but yeah, you make it. You make

1:03:46.360 --> 1:03:52.000
<v Speaker 3>an excellent case for the intangibles that a player like

1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:55.320
<v Speaker 3>that brings into a program that, again, as you mentioned,

1:03:55.400 --> 1:03:57.760
<v Speaker 3>is parenally moribund.

1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:00.960
<v Speaker 1>If not to be more.

1:04:00.800 --> 1:04:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Diplomatic, I guess, George, I wanted to ask you too

1:04:05.000 --> 1:04:09.280
<v Speaker 3>about and you said you were a radio geek as

1:04:09.320 --> 1:04:13.040
<v Speaker 3>a kid growing up like I was. What was your

1:04:13.080 --> 1:04:17.200
<v Speaker 3>favorite DX moment You reached out and you heard a

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<v Speaker 3>far away station and you just were kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Entranced by it.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, it was a station like WLS in Chicago

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<v Speaker 3>because we used to live in suburban Chicago when I

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<v Speaker 3>was very young, and I got hooked into Ready. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I got built with the bug. At seven

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<v Speaker 3>years old, I said, I want to be one of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys. But was there a classic station that you

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<v Speaker 3>heard or a personality that you heard and it just

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<v Speaker 3>kind of sparked your imagination to an extent that you

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to be like that guy.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was two of them. It was the one

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<v Speaker 7>you're broadcasting on right now because it's easily you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you can easily pick it up in Nashville if you're

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<v Speaker 7>in the car in the winter by probably five o'clock.

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<v Speaker 7>Same thing with KMOX. Camox had this young guy who

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<v Speaker 7>was like twenty two years old, and he used to

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<v Speaker 7>do this midnight sports report and I thought he was

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<v Speaker 7>the best I had ever heard, but at the time,

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<v Speaker 7>nobody had ever seen it. His name was Bob Costas.

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<v Speaker 7>So fast forward all these years later. I put a

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<v Speaker 7>call into Bob Costas last year. I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 7>to him about where he thought Nashville is as far

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<v Speaker 7>as expansion in Major League Baseball, which supposedly is coming,

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<v Speaker 7>and I left him a message, I said, I grew

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<v Speaker 7>up listening to you. I actually called your talk show

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<v Speaker 7>one night, and so he sent me a message back

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<v Speaker 7>saying give me a and I said, oh yeah, I said,

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<v Speaker 7>I remember the number four, three, six, seven, nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, do you remember the enterprise number? I said absolutely,

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<v Speaker 7>nine eight o eight. He goes, you're legit. Talk to me.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time I ever heard Bob Costas, he was

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<v Speaker 3>doing play by play for the Spirit of Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 3>in the old Aba.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, Marvin Barnes, Ernie d. Gregario, bad News, Barness, Gerard.

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<v Speaker 1>Freddie Caledwell, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the famous story that Costas always tells about

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<v Speaker 3>Marvin Barnes getting back on the plane in Louisville after

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<v Speaker 3>playing the Kentucky Colonels but wouldn't get on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that story?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, okay, Bob Costas tells a story of Marvin Barnes,

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<v Speaker 3>who again had been drafted early. And I think he

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<v Speaker 3>was a freshman at Providence or sophomore and then he

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<v Speaker 3>came out whatever the deal was. He wasn't exactly a

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<v Speaker 3>Rhodes scholar, Marvin. Anyway, they get done with the game

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<v Speaker 3>against the Kentucky colonels in Louisville, and they're getting ready

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<v Speaker 3>to get on the plane to go back to Saint

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<v Speaker 3>Louis and Marvin's nowhere to be found. And Freddie Caldwell,

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<v Speaker 3>point guard, is running around the airport frantic, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>find Marvin to get him to get on the plane

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<v Speaker 3>because it's getting ready to take off. He said, Marvin.

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<v Speaker 3>He finds him in the concourse. He said, Marvin, the

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<v Speaker 3>plane's taken off. He said, no, I'm gonna find my

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<v Speaker 3>own way home. I ain't getting on a plane. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>why aren't you getting on the plane, Marvin. And Marvin

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<v Speaker 3>pulled out his plane ticket, but it said very specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>departure eleven fifty five pm, arrival eleven fifty pm.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't getting on No damn time machine.

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<v Speaker 7>That's beautiful. That's hilarious, But that's there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a classic costas there.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a book out there for people that are old

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<v Speaker 7>ABA lovers. Terry Pluto wrote it. It's called Loose Balls.

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<v Speaker 7>And I had Julia serving on one time. It's one

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<v Speaker 7>of the best interviews that I've probably ever done, because

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<v Speaker 7>I got into the old Aba stuff and Doctor J.

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<v Speaker 4>Loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Doctor J was my hero when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>playground warrior George growing up. You know this, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the mid seventies. I'm watching Doctor J. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 3>had an afro the size of In fact, my afro,

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<v Speaker 3>my white afro, may have been the size of Darnel

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<v Speaker 3>Hillman's afro if you remember him. Oh my, that just tall,

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<v Speaker 3>tall Tall picked out afro and I you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to mimic all their moves. Of course, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>quite have a vertical jump of forty inches, especially as

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<v Speaker 3>a fourteen year old, but I kind of imagined I

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<v Speaker 3>did and was doing all these whirling dervishes in the

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<v Speaker 3>lane and scoring occasionally when I didn't hit the bottom

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<v Speaker 3>of the rim. But I thought I was Doctor J,

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<v Speaker 3>or aspired to be Doctor J. So he was always

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<v Speaker 3>When he finally got that NBA ring, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was cheering him on.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, so I love Doctor J. What was he like?

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<v Speaker 1>What was Julius irving like?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I've only I've had him on the show one time,

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<v Speaker 7>and I would describe it as one of the coolest

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<v Speaker 7>interviews because he really seemed to get into the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that I knew a lot of the ABA stuff, And

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<v Speaker 7>the truth of it is, I just read that book

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<v Speaker 7>that I was referencing earlier, and so it was all

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<v Speaker 7>top of mind. He really seemed to appreciate that. It's funny,

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<v Speaker 7>you know how it is when you do interviews and

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<v Speaker 7>you know you're not sure whether it's gonna go right,

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<v Speaker 7>or whether the person really is getting into what you're asking,

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<v Speaker 7>and then all of a sudden, you throw some magic

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<v Speaker 7>question out there and the thing just takes off. It's

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<v Speaker 7>the beauty of interviewing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I agree.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the chance to interview Will Purdue, your favorite

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<v Speaker 3>ever Vandy basketball player that you watched and called, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was a fantastic I've interviewed the guy I call shooter,

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Droud, who when he graduated from Vanderbilt and for

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<v Speaker 3>many years afterward, was the NCAA leader in three point

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<v Speaker 3>field goal percentage of over fifty percent. Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 3>he had because Scott came in right as the three

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<v Speaker 3>point shot was implemented in college basketball, and he lives

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<v Speaker 3>locally here. He told me some stories about you coming

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<v Speaker 3>to visit here, George, and some some I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if we can tell. In the air, but apparently you

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<v Speaker 3>have you have an affinity for going to the casinos.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been known to uh to enjoy it, and Scott

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<v Speaker 7>seemed to enjoy it with me. It was a couple

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<v Speaker 7>of years ago. I try about once a year to

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<v Speaker 7>come to Cincinnati. I am a huge baseball fan. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a big Atlanta Braves fan, but I love I

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<v Speaker 7>love the Cincinnati baseball vibe. Two years ago, I guess

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<v Speaker 7>two three years ago, the Reds were in the middle

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<v Speaker 7>of a ten or eleven game winning streak and they

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<v Speaker 7>beat the Braves that night in a classic slugfest. It

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<v Speaker 7>was like eleven to ten. And we went over to

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<v Speaker 7>the casino, the Jack Casino, right after that, and the

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<v Speaker 7>place was absolutely packed, and I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 7>what happens when your team is winning. Downtown's buzzing. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>all the merchants are happy. Cincinnati is a great baseball city.

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<v Speaker 6>And I saw earlier today.

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<v Speaker 7>The rumor was that Kyle Schwarber might be coming to Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 7>and it didn't work out that way and he instead

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<v Speaker 7>resigned with the Phillies, which is too bad because I

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<v Speaker 7>would love You've got a great manager in Terry Francona

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<v Speaker 7>no doubt, a class act, one of the three or

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<v Speaker 7>four best managers in the game. And I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 7>in the next year or to something really good's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>happen with the Reds.

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<v Speaker 3>Hum well, I mean, remember you heard that it as

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<v Speaker 3>long as The one thing I noticed this season, as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to last season with home games is that while

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<v Speaker 3>the ultimate final result wasn't good enough to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs, they were still challenging the last week, but

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<v Speaker 3>there were more fans in the seats than there had

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<v Speaker 3>been previously. And I think part of that was. Part

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<v Speaker 3>of that was Tito and his presence and his influence

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<v Speaker 3>on the ball club and the fans. I think they'd

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<v Speaker 3>grown a little bit weary of the losses under David Bell,

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<v Speaker 3>and when Terry Francona was named manager, that made a

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<v Speaker 3>difference in ticket sales and butts in the seats man

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<v Speaker 3>can translate to wins on the field and vice versa.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously, I don't pretend to know him real well. The

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<v Speaker 7>Baseball Winter meetings had been in Nashville several times, and

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<v Speaker 7>they've been at the opry Land Hotel, and as you know,

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<v Speaker 7>that's a hard place to get around. Oh yeah, So

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<v Speaker 7>we have him on and he ends up showing up

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<v Speaker 7>about five minutes late and just profusely apologizing. And I said, Terry,

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<v Speaker 7>I said, nobody who doesn't live here can find anything

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<v Speaker 7>in this place. I said, the fact that you made

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<v Speaker 7>the effort to be here, I said, man, I so

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<v Speaker 7>appreciate it. I'm a huge fan of his. There's a

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<v Speaker 7>credibility that he brings to the Reds. Right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>telling you the next year to some pretty good things

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<v Speaker 7>are going to start happening with the Reds.

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<v Speaker 3>What are the chances that Nashville does get that MOLB franchise?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that was all was something that was percolating under

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<v Speaker 3>the service and Larry Schmid how he got God bless him.

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<v Speaker 3>He tried so hard to get Major League Baseball to

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<v Speaker 3>pay attention. He built that new stadium for the sounds,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, every year he's like knocking on MLB's doors,

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<v Speaker 3>come on, consider us. But for the reasons of proximity Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis, Atlanta, I guess there was a hesitancy by

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<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball to even consider a franchise in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's I mean, it's a major sports town now.

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<v Speaker 3>George Plaster. Will Nashville get an expansion franchise in baseball?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I believe we are number one on MLB's list.

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<v Speaker 7>I think what they want to do is go one

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<v Speaker 7>team on the East coast, Nashville, and right now I

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<v Speaker 7>think the team out west. The leader in the clubhouse

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<v Speaker 7>right now is Salt Lake City and Dale Murphy, the

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<v Speaker 7>former Atlanta Braves star, is sort of the face of

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<v Speaker 7>the Salt Lake City situation, and so I pay a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of attention to it. By the way, when you

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<v Speaker 7>brought up Larry Schmidow, he's eighty five years old, still working.

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<v Speaker 7>He has a bunch of us every Monday morning for

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<v Speaker 7>breakfast at a cracker barrel.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that.

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<v Speaker 7>We have more fun just throwing darts at each other

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<v Speaker 7>and talking sports. And he's an incredible human being. I

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<v Speaker 7>had loved getting to know him better. I worked for

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<v Speaker 7>him when I was in college. I was one of

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<v Speaker 7>the Sounds radio announcers. But getting to know him now,

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<v Speaker 7>it's just been a total delight.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I remember seeing a lot of up and or

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<v Speaker 3>rehabbing National League and Baseball professional baseball stars play for

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<v Speaker 3>a week or two in Nashville with the Sounds and

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<v Speaker 3>then players that you never forget, like Steve Bye Bye Balboni,

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<v Speaker 3>who played for the Sounds for how many years? Just

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<v Speaker 3>incredible minor league player who either struck out or hit

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<v Speaker 3>a home run. George Plaster, you always hit home runs, man,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm so glad that you took the time to

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<v Speaker 3>talk with us. Next time we'll have to dish some

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<v Speaker 3>dirt on Scott Drowd because I know he listens.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 7>Let's absolutely do it. Look, it is an honor to

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<v Speaker 7>be on with you on this great radio station. And

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<v Speaker 7>anytime you want me to come on, if you hit

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<v Speaker 7>the bottom of the barrel and you're desperate, call me.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, actually actually droughts on the bottom of the barrel,

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<v Speaker 3>so you could be next.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, we're right there. We're twenty ninth and thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 1>George. Have a great night. Thank you, God, bless.

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<v Speaker 7>Hey, Merry Christmas to yours Mary christ.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you George Plaster with us tonight on the Nightcap.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to wrap up,