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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Nightcap on this Tuesday night, December ninth,

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Speaker 3: somewhere between here and Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: As our opening guests.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, we have the Congressman from the House of Representatives

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Speaker 3: of the fourth District in the Commonwealth of Kentucky, my

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Speaker 3: representative in Washington, d C. Thomas Massey, for a few

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Speaker 3: minutes to start off tonight. We'll have some other stuff,

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Speaker 3: but right now this is the important thing. Congressman Massey, Thomas,

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Speaker 3: how are you, sir?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Cary, Jeff. Good to hear from you.

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Speaker 4: I'm not tired of winning yet, but I did have

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Speaker 4: a big win here recently. I got the Epstein Files

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Speaker 4: Transparency Act passed in the House by a vote of

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Speaker 4: four hundred and twenty seven to one, and it passed

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Speaker 4: the Senate unanimously, which means one hundred to zero, and

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Speaker 4: the President signed it immediately. And just today the second

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Speaker 4: judge has ruled that they will release grand jury material

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Speaker 4: that they had previously not released. There was a judge

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Speaker 4: in Florida with the old Epstein case who ruled that

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Speaker 4: he would release all the grand jury material. And then

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Speaker 4: today to a judge who's over the Maxwell case, the

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Speaker 4: recent Maxwell Gallaine Maxwell case, ruled that he will release

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Speaker 4: the material. And it's all because this bill passed and

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Speaker 4: then the deal. There's a third judge of the recent

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Speaker 4: Epstein case in New York. We're waiting to hear what

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Speaker 4: he's going to do, but we suspect since two federal

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Speaker 4: judges have already said, look, Massey got the Epstein Files

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Speaker 4: Transparency Act passed, This changes everything. We're going to release

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Speaker 4: our materials. So we're waiting on that third judge what

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Speaker 4: he will do. But in reality, the bulk of the

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Speaker 4: material is at the DOJ, not in and the FBI

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Speaker 4: not in this grand jury material.

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Speaker 1: All right, So here here's my question.

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Speaker 3: What about protections from some of the victims who don't

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Speaker 3: want their names or their stories released.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is that still redacted. Is that still

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Speaker 1: blocked out.

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Speaker 4: Thomas, Yeah, that's written into our bill. We have a

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Speaker 4: provision to allow for reactions of victims. Now, you can't

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Speaker 4: redefine victim as some you know, man who's going to

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Speaker 4: be embarrassed because he went to the Epstein Island. That's

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Speaker 4: not a victim, but any woman who was sex trafficked

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Speaker 4: or or girl for that man, or some of these

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Speaker 4: females we're fourteen years old. All of those names will

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Speaker 4: be redacted. And the judge who announced today he's going

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Speaker 4: to release the grand jury material in the Glenne Maxwell

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Speaker 3: President Trump today or this evening, spoke in Pennsylvania at

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Speaker 3: one of those campaign style rallies that he likes to

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Speaker 3: do when he's running, to tout the plans that and

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Speaker 3: the things this administration has done to make life more affordable.

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Speaker 3: The new a word in Washington, his affordability. You know,

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Speaker 3: it started with the zoh Ranmandani promise of everything for

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Speaker 3: free to every New Yorker that voted for him, which

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Speaker 3: we know is illogical and can't happen unless it's some

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Speaker 3: communist country. But what should the government role be in

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Speaker 3: affordability in the first place?

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Speaker 1: Thomas?

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Speaker 3: How should the government be able to help people afford

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Speaker 3: things that they need in their lives? Well, well, you

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Speaker 3: know what you broke up there, Thomas.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry, can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So, so answer affordability.

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Speaker 4: Ye, let me start with what they shouldn't do. They

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Speaker 4: should not do price fixing. You can't go in and

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Speaker 4: say the price is going to be this, No, because

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Speaker 4: the government doesn't know. The free market knows what the

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Speaker 4: rules are written so that there's competition. We don't have

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Speaker 4: affordability in the supermarket right now for meat because there's

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Speaker 4: could do for affordability is Past My Prime Act, which

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Speaker 4: would allow farmers to use local processors, mom and pop processors,

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Speaker 4: one thing we can do, and you do that by

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Speaker 4: lowering regulations, not no regulations, but right size the regulations.

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Speaker 4: Right now, we've got scale prejudicial regulations, which means the

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Speaker 4: big guys love the regulation because it keeps the little

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Speaker 4: guys out. But the main thing we can do for affordability,

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Speaker 4: Gary Jeff, is to quit spending so much frickin money

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Speaker 4: we don't have and printing it. Inflation is insane. And

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Speaker 4: then you've got that, you know, the US government is

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Speaker 4: competing for capital because we're borrowing so much money, and

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Speaker 4: they're the ones driving up interest rates. So affordability means

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Speaker 4: how much interest are you paying on your mortgage and

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Speaker 4: your car. And it also means is what's your real

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Speaker 4: wage after inflation every year? So that's what we should

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Speaker 4: be doing, spending less money so that we're not causing

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Speaker 1: So the FED should lower the interest rates, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the FED should exist.

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Speaker 3: I agree with and we've had that conversation before. But

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Speaker 3: as long as they do exist, they should lower the

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Speaker 4: They can lower interest rates. But here's what's happened. The

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Speaker 4: foreign sovereign wealth funds that typically buy US debt have

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Speaker 4: decided that four percent is not enough interest because we

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Speaker 4: monetize too much of our debt and diluted, we're promising

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Speaker 4: to pay back anybody who buys Treasury bonds with US

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Speaker 4: don't think four percent is a good deal because we

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Speaker 4: think you're going to inflate your dollar more than that

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Speaker 4: not made any returns. So the FED could lower rates,

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Speaker 4: but will the market follow those rates? Not really the

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Speaker 4: Fed's ability to control interest. It's like a control stick

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Speaker 4: that's connected with a rubber band and they've got that

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Speaker 4: to bring the rates down, but they're not in total control.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Thomas Massey, Congressman Thomas Massey, my congressman, the

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Speaker 3: again unless he really really steems me in the next

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Speaker 3: few minutes. No, Thomas here. So here's the thing. What

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Speaker 3: about the so called double tap? These boats, these drug boats,

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Speaker 3: according to the Administration narco terrorism vehicles in international waters

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Speaker 3: they are unflagged. Does the President have the right to

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Speaker 3: do what he is doing and the Department of Defense

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Speaker 3: they are doing in open international waters if they've got

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Speaker 3: a security threat. Do you believe that the President and

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Speaker 3: they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Well, sorry for the bad pun, but the water is

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Speaker 4: a little murky here.

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Speaker 1: It's all the cocaine in the water that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the sharks are really listen. When when we go

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Speaker 4: after terraces in the Middle East or elsewhere, there's an

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Speaker 4: AUMF that authorizes authorization to use the military force. It's

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Speaker 4: called the Global War on Terror and it was done

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Speaker 4: long before I got to Congress, and it's still in effect.

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Speaker 4: And so it's for al Qaeda and associates. But Congress

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Speaker 4: the president could do those things. There's actually no such

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Speaker 4: authorization for what's going on in Venezuela. And the concern

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Speaker 4: that I have and Senator Ran Paul has too, is

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Speaker 4: that this is more than about the cocaine. It's certainly

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Speaker 4: not about fentanyl. Fentanyl doesn't come from Venezuela. You know,

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Speaker 4: why aren't we under the same rules you could attack

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Speaker 4: the precursors for fentanyl. If that, if you're allowed to

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Speaker 4: bomb any boat that's got drugs on it, yeah, it

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Speaker 4: gets and it gets murky because and I'm not taking

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Speaker 4: up for anybody who's running drugs in the Caribbean at all,

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Speaker 4: but the double tap gets murky because this is somewhere

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Speaker 4: between a military exercise and a police exercise. I talked

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Speaker 4: to veterans who said, you know, in Afghanistan or Iraq,

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Speaker 4: them all out. You don't go in and arrest them.

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Speaker 4: I think what's what leaves a bad taste in people's mouths,

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Speaker 4: and mine included here is that this is somewhere between

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Speaker 4: saying they're innocent, but there are different degrees of culpability.

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Speaker 4: The police wouldn't go back and put double taps in everybody.

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Speaker 4: So this is that's why this is murky. Okay, there's

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Speaker 4: a there's not a congressional authorization. The premise here that

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that anybody, I don't think that Pete

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Speaker 3: international war crimes for what they're doing. I understand that you,

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Speaker 3: as you well stated, it's a murky situation without the

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Speaker 3: authorization of Congress, but they do have some power.

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 3: The Supreme Court is deciding whether these tariffs can be

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Speaker 3: kept in place that the Trump administration. I know you've

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Speaker 4: What do you think think we should I think we

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Speaker 4: should vote on them, by the way, if we could

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Speaker 4: go back to the first one hundred and fifty years

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Speaker 4: of this country, where we didn't have an income tax.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have an income tax until the sixteenth Amendment

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Speaker 1: Nineteen thirteen or something like that.

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Speaker 4: And yes, very bad years FED came into existence, the

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Speaker 4: those were three bad things that happened in nineteen thirteen.

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Speaker 4: But if we can go back prior to nineteen thirteen,

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Speaker 4: over ninety percent of our revenue came from tariffs and

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Speaker 4: there was no income tax, and I would be okay

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Speaker 4: with going back to that. It's not that I'm against tariffs.

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Speaker 4: You'll get Honestly, you're going to get less of whatever

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Speaker 4: you tax. So if you tax a person's labor, you

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Speaker 4: probably do less labor or they're less inclined to do

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Speaker 4: the labor. If you tax consumption of foreign goods, there'll

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Speaker 4: be less consumption of foreign goods. And I think trade

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Speaker 4: is good, but I'm not like a religious zealot about

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Speaker 4: But here's the thing Congress has in specifically, the House

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Speaker 4: It says that the Congress shall set the taxes, an

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Speaker 4: any bill dealing with taxes has to originate in the House.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Massey, thank you so much for your time, and

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Speaker 1: Do some good work.

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Speaker 4: All right, We're headed there, Thanks Garry, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Thomas Massey running again for the fourth district seat

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Speaker 1: As a confidence killer.

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Speaker 4: You can have the best outfit, the sharpest resume, the

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is once again sports were they out of sorts?

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Speaker 3: Let's find out if that is the case. Tonight we

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Speaker 3: four ball Andy Furman and Andy I had a question

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Speaker 1: If you don't mind, you might just doo.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you are supposed to interview me in a sense,

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Speaker 1: Do you do pull ups? Offten? Andy? And in your

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Speaker 5: Still pay about it. No, I tell you what, I

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Speaker 1: In really bad shape. Andy. I forgot my phone two

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Speaker 5: That's the mental part of it. In the physical part,

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Speaker 5: I I am not you, And they say wow.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to be obviously have a wait to

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Speaker 5: You just you just don't look put together. Well, okay,

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Speaker 5: And I can tell you that as a friend, and

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Speaker 3: Were talking about me, you idiot, We were talking about you.

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Speaker 1: What kind of shape for you?

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Speaker 5: Now? Are I piggy stop it? All right? Really?

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Speaker 5: I would have to say that I made a commitment

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Speaker 1: Whoa you watch Judge Judy?

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Speaker 1: What do you love about? What are you like?

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Speaker 5: She's just she's straightforward, she isn't taking a guff and

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Speaker 5: you know she said this guy, I don't believe you.

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Speaker 5: And dare you, how dare you challenge Judge Judy.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe you.

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Speaker 3: You're probably going to probably going to give full respect

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Speaker 5: To just Judy is a different because professional for forty

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Speaker 3: Come on now, really, Judge Judy is professional wrestling for

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Speaker 5: Profession I am writing her, and I've written to her before.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to write her and tell her you said that.

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Speaker 1: It to make fun of her.

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Speaker 5: No, no, I would. I would not be assuming you

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Speaker 5: that she's a fraud, And I can't handle you saying that. Now.

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Speaker 5: Maybe she is, but I doubt it.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you don't understand she's not a fraud.

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Speaker 3: But the show is the premises.

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Speaker 5: The real life days.

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Speaker 1: There is no.

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Speaker 5: No, it's not. I didn't want to continue this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Wheel Buddies and the show was completely fraud it's.

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Speaker 5: dog poops on someone's lawn and they take them to court. Okay, well,

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Speaker 5: I'm a pretty good Yeah. I wave myself this morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're you're a tad shorter than I am

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Speaker 5: What's your height?

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Speaker 3: Well, it used to be about five eleven, but I've

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you Are you shrinking? Are you shrinking in

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Speaker 5: I shrunk two years ago, being below the waist.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I won't say that. You said that, but okay.

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Speaker 5: I never had anything much there.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Furman and the field mouse and what the parrots saw, we.

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Speaker 5: I'm beginning to smids right now. Let's move on.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what, Why don't you take a couple

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Speaker 3: cap on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 6: So, Andy, you.

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Speaker 3: At a request, and I don't know that it's fitting

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Speaker 3: and you never know what the Ravens, they have totally collapsed. Andy,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals could, by virtue of their in division record,

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Speaker 3: But you thought that maybe we should go ahead and

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: You know what, though, I really enjoy what you have

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Speaker 5: want to know what you're smoking because I want some

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Speaker 5: of it, really, I really do. There are many people

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Speaker 5: so forget it. Because to make the playoffs, the Bengals

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Speaker 5: go now four and nine, they obviously have to win

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Speaker 5: They could win three, they could win three of the four,

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Speaker 5: them when they when they lose like some people do. No,

439
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Speaker 5: I think it's great for the city. The city is

440
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Speaker 5: more upbeat on a Monday after they win on Sunday.

441
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: That's all I'm saying. It's great economically, it's great for restaurants, bars,

442
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 5: everything to do with the city. It's great. Everybody's in

443
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 5: a happier mood, and that's why I want them to win. Economically,

444
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 5: it is better. I look at the money aspect, and

445
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 5: that's that's what it's all about. When they lose his

446
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 5: finger pointing, it's negativity. It's fired this guy. I never

447
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 5: want to see people get fired. I don't think it's

448
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 5: great to have you know what I call beer muscles,

449
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 5: sit behind the microphone and say Zach Taylor should be fired.

450
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Speaker 5: I know. I don't want to see anybody get fired. No,

451
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Speaker 5: it's not it's not right. It's justally this time of

452
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 5: the year. So winning is good and winning is healthy.

453
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Speaker 5: I want to see it happen here. And I'll tell

454
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Speaker 5: you this much. Zach Taylor is a good guy. He is.

455
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Speaker 5: He's got some bad luck he's got.

456
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't think there's any question of the

457
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Speaker 3: man's character as a person, as a human being. He's

458
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Speaker 3: probably a wonderful man. But a lot of a lot

459
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Speaker 3: of wonderful men aren't cut out to be head coaches

460
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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and Zach Taylor happens to be one

461
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Speaker 3: of those men who are.

462
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Speaker 5: And it's funny you say that because I look at

463
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Speaker 5: Kevin Stefanski and I think he's a heck of a coach.

464
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Speaker 5: Heck of a coach. You know what, you don't have

465
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 5: a quarterback in the National Football League, you ain't gonna win.

466
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Speaker 5: They have nothing. They have nothing in Cleveland. Stefanski is

467
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Speaker 5: a pretty damn good coach. What about John Harbor not

468
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Speaker 5: a good coach? In Baltimore? I mean, Lamar Jackson's got

469
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Speaker 5: like one leg. I mean, if you don't have a quarterback,

470
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Speaker 5: you're not gonna win. And I will tell you this

471
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 5: much the outstanding coaches right now, and I see Ben

472
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Speaker 5: Johnson's wan hell of a coach. What he has done

473
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Speaker 5: in Chicago.

474
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Speaker 1: He lost, He lost this weekend too.

475
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Speaker 5: No no doubt about it. But look good. They won

476
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Speaker 5: nine games and coming into the season, his quarterback said,

477
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Speaker 5: Chicago is a place for this unused quarterbacks, the quarterback

478
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Speaker 5: haven for for death. All right, look what he's done.

479
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 5: He's turned that program around. Him and Mike Vrabel probably

480
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 5: the two best coaches in the National Football League, and

481
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Speaker 5: one of those two is going to be Coach of

482
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Speaker 5: the Year this year, most likely Rabel. I think, well

483
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Speaker 5: maybe Johnson, because Rabel had a truck regular doing well

484
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 5: prior to coming to New England. Where Ben Johnson. This

485
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 5: is his first year as a head coach.

486
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Speaker 3: Okay, you say all that, and you mentioned John Harball

487
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Speaker 3: and Mike Tomlin. Damn good coach, just not having a

488
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Speaker 3: great year.

489
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Speaker 1: And you've got to have a quarter his quarterback.

490
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Speaker 5: You gotta have quarterback. Really, I mean, if you don't

491
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Speaker 5: have a quarterback, that position is so.

492
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Speaker 1: Old I'm talking about.

493
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about over the extended period of time they

494
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: have been had coaches. Zach Taylor still as a losing record.

495
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Speaker 3: He didn't win a super Bowl. He got he rode

496
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Speaker 3: the coat tails of Joe Burrow to a seatout.

497
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Speaker 5: He didn't win a super Bowl. He made it to

498
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Speaker 5: the super Bowl.

499
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Speaker 3: John Harball won a super Bowl and Cleveland and they

500
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: never win.

501
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Speaker 1: Doesn't matter who the coach is or the quarterback.

502
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Speaker 5: It's Cleveland quarterback since they moved.

503
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is.

504
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. I can't find the correct quarterback. That's

505
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 5: the problem.

506
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 3: They can't find their behind with two hands, a flashlight

507
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: and a full length mirror.

508
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: And I'm about to Pittsburgh for a second. I love

509
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin and he's a Hall of Fame coach.

510
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: He's coached, won a Super Bowl, won a super Bowl.

511
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 5: To get about super bowls out talk about winning records

512
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Speaker 5: and going to the playoffs. Super Bowls is a very

513
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 5: difficult thing to obtain. You know, the fans in Cincinnati

514
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 5: after the Bengals made it to the Super Bowl, they

515
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 5: thought they were going to go on a run. It

516
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 5: doesn't work that way. Injuries are a factor, and the

517
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 5: competition is just too tough. It's very tough to repeat.

518
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 5: And the more they see that, the more they realize

519
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 5: what a great coach Bill Belichick was, what a great

520
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 5: coach he was.

521
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Speaker 3: You're right, You're right about one thing, Andy, Well, you're

522
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 3: right about several things. But the one thing you were

523
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 3: right about is that competition is tough in the NFL.

524
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Speaker 4: It is the league set up like that?

525
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 5: Because if you you get the first trag.

526
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 3: And Zach Taylor, and Zach Taylor gets out coached in

527
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Speaker 3: almost every.

528
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Game, what does that mean?

529
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Speaker 5: You know what? I hear that term all the time.

530
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 5: I won't know what does that mean? Out coached? Is

531
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 5: a coach playing this the other coach? Tell me what

532
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 5: that mean? Was he out coached? When when Joe Burrow

533
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 5: through two interceptions? Is that being out coached. Tell me

534
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: I want to know, because I think it's a term

535
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 5: that's thrown out there verbatim by many people, sports people

536
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: and nonsports people. The thing is a cool thing to say, Well,

537
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 5: yeah it is.

538
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: It is clock, It is clock management. It is the

539
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: use of timeouts. It is decisions that are made. It

540
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: is whether there are halftime adjustments made. And the Bengals

541
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: hardly ever make good halftime adjustments going into the second half.

542
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: I mean, they were clearly a leader in the first half,

543
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: But who made the adjustments. The Buffalo Bills made the adjustments.

544
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: Plus they were at an adjustments that they made.

545
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: Plus they don't have much. Plus they have a better

546
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Speaker 3: coach than Zach Taylor. Sean McDermott.

547
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this much. I'll give you this. There

548
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 5: was a problem the coaching stide of the Bengals. They

549
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 5: played Manton man defense and the secondary against a great

550
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: quarterback and Josh Allen, okay, gotta play. Don't you'll play

551
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 5: man man out, coach, It's not out coach. It was

552
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 5: a philosophy they used, and they wanted to play Manton man.

553
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: Out, philosophized out, philotsified whatever you want to call it Andy.

554
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 5: It didn't work. It didn't work.

555
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: Zack Taylor is a night Let's just go back to

556
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Speaker 3: the beginning and let's finish this on a positive note.

557
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor is a nice man. And and

558
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: that's where all ended. Right there. He's a nice I.

559
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 5: Will tell you that. No, no, don't end it right there.

560
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 5: Because man teams in the National Football League. I don't

561
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: think there's much of a difference in football knowledge beatween

562
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 5: coach one and coach thirty two. There isn't. It's all

563
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 5: about personnel and talented quarterbacks. That's where it's at. And

564
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 5: you know what, I know, that's what it's all about.

565
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: You got a quarterback, you got a chance to win.

566
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 5: Bengals couldn't win. They got Joe Borrow, they won. He

567
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 5: got hurt and there's some problems on the defensive side

568
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: of the ball. Boom, that's what's going on. It's not

569
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 5: the coaching. It isn't believe me, it's not the coach.

570
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: I promise you.

571
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: Well, let's you know.

572
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: And since we already played tabs, which I was really against,

573
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: let's not dance on their grave now.

574
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 5: Okay, Andy, I feel sorry for him.

575
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 3: Let's not whistle past the graveyard. Let's not whistle past

576
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: the graveyard. Let's just move on God all right for

577
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: a ball? Thanks, It's the Nightcap and there's much more

578
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: ahead on seven underd W l w Our hour of

579
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Speaker 3: Sports for the out of Sorts continues now with the

580
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: original sports commando, the guy on the Billboard. When's he

581
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: going back? A big, big gang member and the guy

582
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: that people knew it Annie's as the wild Man. In fact,

583
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: we all knew him as a wild Man because that's

584
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: his name, wild Man Walker is back on the Nightcap.

585
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: How you doing, man?

586
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 6: I'm doing good. Gary, Jeff? How about you Pal?

587
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 3: You know, hanging in there as best I can. Got

588
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: a lot to do with Christmas coming up and everything,

589
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: and it's just I love this time of year, but

590
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: I hate it at the same time because there's so

591
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: much stuff that gets crammed into a little bit of

592
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: amount of time. And I don't do a lot of

593
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: Christmas shopping because I don't have a lot of money

594
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: and it's just me and my wife. Basically, what do

595
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: you get my parents they're eighty nine and eighty eight,

596
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: and they have everything that they could possibly want or need,

597
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: so we're gonna we're gonna try and visit them overnight

598
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: on Christmas.

599
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Speaker 1: But other than that, But I mean, it's just.

600
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Speaker 3: Don't you feel like it's really hurried and harried for

601
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: a lot of people this time and you're just trying

602
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: to squeeze things in before the beginning of the year.

603
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Speaker 6: I think it's been that way since the birth of

604
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: the internet for some reason. Yeah, people people shopping online

605
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 6: and then going to the stores also, But it is

606
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 6: just the way everybody wants something. They want everything. Everybody

607
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 6: wants everything real quick. Everything, I gotta have it now,

608
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: I gotta have it now. It's like everybody just, you know,

609
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 6: take it, take a deep breath, man, and relax, you know,

610
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 6: especially during the Christmas season.

611
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, like when there's a new iPhone or something and

612
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: people lined up around the block.

613
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: It's like it's a phone.

614
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 3: You gotta have it, you gotta have it now, and

615
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: you got to have it first before anybody else. And

616
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: then you're standing in line like a bunch of dorks.

617
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Speaker 6: Or sheep sheep.

618
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Speaker 1: Out in the cold.

619
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Speaker 3: The only difference between the only difference between them and

620
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Speaker 3: sheep sheep actually have a fur coat that they can

621
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Speaker 3: wear when it's this cold when it's as cold, all right,

622
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: So let's get to the meat of the matter here,

623
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: the crux of the conversation. As we like to say,

624
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: the Bengals are done, except they're not.

625
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 6: Exactly. There's still a slight chance for the Bengals to

626
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, but it's gonna take almost a couple

627
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 6: of teams to cooperate and the Bengals to win out.

628
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 6: I mean, they've got to beat the Ravens this Sunday.

629
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Speaker 6: Then they gotta go down to Miami, who's playing a

630
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 6: little bit better, and beat the Dolphins.

631
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Speaker 3: By the way that that game has now been flexed,

632
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: the Miami game, it's gonna be probably a one o'clock

633
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: game now it has.

634
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 6: Been changed back to one o'clock. Then they've got to

635
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 6: beat Arizona, who stings, and also the Browns with Tradura

636
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Speaker 6: sanders Uh at the at pay Horse Stadium.

637
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: No, it's it's entirely possible.

638
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: The Bengals could run the table with the teams they've

639
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: got left, win four in a row. They're eight and nine, Okay,

640
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: Baltimore takes another loss. If Baltimore is also eight and nine,

641
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: were God forbid and Ravens country seven and ten and

642
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 3: the Steelers are eight and nine. The Bengals have a

643
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: better division record, so they would be the representative from

644
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Speaker 3: the AFC North in the playoffs.

645
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 6: Right, they would win a tiebreaker. And then when I'm

646
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Speaker 6: looking at the Ravens schedule of who they got to

647
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 6: play and also the Steelers, I think the Ravens still.

648
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Speaker 1: Have to play the Patriots. Oh, and the Steelers have.

649
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Speaker 6: To play the Lions. I mean, so that I could

650
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Speaker 6: work in favor for the Bengals. And of course the

651
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 6: final game of the year, the Ravens play the Steelers

652
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Speaker 6: in Pittsburgh, which could determine the bengals fate. You know,

653
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh is not unbeatable. I mean, they're okay, and I

654
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Speaker 6: would think the Ravens would want to go out on

655
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Speaker 6: the winning note to knock them off, which would help

656
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Speaker 6: the Bengals.

657
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: Well, what I think would be good is the Bengals

658
00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: run the table these final four games Baltimore. One of

659
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: the losses is Baltimore's tagged on their end. Pittsburgh loses

660
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: and uh, and then the Steelers and Ravens play to

661
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: a tie.

662
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 6: Well play to a tie. That's now that that's reaching.

663
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 6: That that's reaching, that's reaching. But there's still there's still

664
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 6: a slight chance. And you know, the guys have you know,

665
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 6: I know there's there's there's a couple of talking heads

666
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 6: I'm not going to say who they are that that

667
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 6: went on the air Sunday night and said, what do

668
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 6: the Bengals have to play for?

669
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: Now?

670
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 6: Why would you make a dumb comment like that? What

671
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 6: do the Bengals have to play for? Well, number one,

672
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 6: they're professionals, and number two, they don't want to lose.

673
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 6: They're not going out there just want to lose.

674
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: They want to win.

675
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: I don't care if you're fifteen, you want you're gonna

676
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 6: go out there and try to win. The BIGA comment,

677
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 6: what do the Bengals have to play for? Well, obviously

678
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: they don't really know what the hell they're talking about.

679
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: What did Hey, what did the Tennessee Titans have to

680
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: play for on Sunday? It's a game on the schedule.

681
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: That's why you play the game because it's on the

682
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: schedule and you're obligated to do it.

683
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: And as a man, an.

684
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Speaker 3: Athlete, someone who was proud, you want to win every

685
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: time you go out no matter what your record is

686
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 3: I mean right right, and if.

687
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 6: You half assid you might be unemployed next year?

688
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: You should be if you're half assn't it at those

689
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 3: salary ranges? Uh so, Yeah, I think that's an extremely,

690
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: uh nonsensical comment for someone to make.

691
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 6: I considered idiotic when I heard them say that.

692
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, nonsensical, idiotic. Okay, I'll go with that, no kidd.

693
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: So what about the college football playoffs setup? I'm still

694
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: I understand and yet I don't. They couldn't let a

695
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 3: fifth SEC team in. But Vanderbilt Commodores deserve to be

696
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: there as as much as anybody else outside of maybe

697
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 3: the top four, don't you think?

698
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 4: Oh?

699
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 6: I think they deserved it. I think Notre Dame deserved it,

700
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: even though they lost to Miami. But you know, and

701
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: I you know, I see James Madison in there. But

702
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 6: that's the way the conferences are. I just like James Madison,

703
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 6: what the hell do you know?

704
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: What?

705
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 6: Like they have no chance?

706
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: Might as might as well be Dolly Madison.

707
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, a Notre Dame. To me, they really did

708
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 6: a disservice to their to their players and their alumni.

709
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 6: But not playing in some kind of bowl game, I mean,

710
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a big deal. I'm not going to

711
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 6: understand they're upset, okay, whatever, but just just to say no, no,

712
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 6: And then and they made a big stink about how

713
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, how they may not how they may ever

714
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 6: men ever play another bowl game again, I think that's

715
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 6: the sour grapes. And then they should be playing a

716
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: bowl game somewhere because those fans would show up, They

717
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 6: would make the school would make money, the players would

718
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: get another chance to win a game and be showcase

719
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 6: where scouts to possibly playing on the National Football League.

720
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: On their parts, the wild man, it's it's the same

721
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: old thing with the Irish. When are they going to

722
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: get off of their butts and go ahead and join

723
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: one of these.

724
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Huge conference they have exactly.

725
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: You know what, and this is a positive thing, is

726
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 3: that finally Notre Dame may be forced if they want

727
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: to be considered for the college football playoff system, to

728
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 3: join a conference and have to play the same level

729
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: of competition that the people in the SEC do on

730
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: a week to week basis during the conference schedule Big Ten,

731
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: all of the the Big twelve, they have to play

732
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: the teams that matter, so they will in fact matter

733
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: in the ultimate analysis.

734
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: You think that's right?

735
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 6: The bright side, yeah, well, but on the bright side,

736
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 6: you see is going to a bowl game, woo the

737
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 6: Liberty Bowl and of all places one of the worst

738
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 6: cities of the Memphis. Have fun people going to Memphis.

739
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 6: And why didn't you see a Navy play? Now, Miami

740
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 6: of Ohio is playing the Fredsno State. They're playing in

741
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 6: the Snoop Dog Bowl, which is kind of a goofy,

742
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 6: goofy name, and I'm going to get to that in

743
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 6: a minute. But they're playing in Arizona. But you see

744
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: in the Liberty Bowl against Navy, I got big word

745
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 6: for you.

746
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: Well well, and and the and the real downside to this,

747
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 3: wild man is that they may very well get beat

748
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: by Navy because Navy had a really good year.

749
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, but how about some of the you know, we

750
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 6: grew up Gary, Jeff, me, you and I with the

751
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 6: Orange Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, the Gator Bowl.

752
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: The Peach Bowl.

753
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's it's out of control. I mean, here's

754
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 6: some names. You're gonna just crack up. Here's some of

755
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: the names I found that they've got bowl games. Now, okay,

756
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 6: buckled up, l a Bowl, the Xbox Bowl, Sign of

757
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 6: the times?

758
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 3: What else? Oh, wild Man disappeared? I tell you what

759
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: we will. We will get him back on the line

760
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: in just a moment. He was on a roll too,

761
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: So wild Man's back on the line. Now. You were

762
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 3: giving me some of the new fangled bowl game names.

763
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: I think you stopped. You dropped out of the X Bowl.

764
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: What what else can we look forward to this college

765
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: football bowl season?

766
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Wild Man?

767
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 6: The Rate Bowl, r A D, the Rate Bowl, the

768
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 6: Pop Tarts Ball where the Snoop dogg Arizona Ball? Come on, Man, Tony,

769
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 6: the Tiger Suck Bowl, the Cheese its Citrus Bawl. I mean,

770
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 6: it just never ends, It just never ends. Well, college

771
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 6: football is a mess.

772
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: They ought to find a sponsor that more readily matches

773
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: up to citrus than cheese. It's cheese. It's and citrus

774
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: sound awful together. I mean, I don't. I don't want

775
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: my fresh squeeze orange juice with cheese. It's I'm sorry,

776
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: it just doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

777
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: Pardon the pun. The Pop Tarts Bowl, of course, that's classic.

778
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, the college football is a complete mess. I mean

779
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: the playoffs system. I don't think they'll ever have. That

780
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: will never be perfect, but it is what it is

781
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 6: with the twelve teams. And maybe they don't hear they'll

782
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 6: expanded the sixteen. But you can't have you.

783
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: Can't have you can't have computers deciding who's number one

784
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: and number two. You've got to play it on the field,

785
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: I think. And maybe they should just open it up.

786
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: And the entire month of December is nothing but play

787
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 3: in games for the for the actual playoff.

788
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

789
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 6: Well, it's all it's all about the money. It's all

790
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 6: about the money. And then maybe they're thinking down the

791
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 6: road and they'll do that because it's all about the

792
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 6: money in college football. Like I said, college football is

793
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 6: a mess with the nil signings and them and whatnot,

794
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 6: and it's just a mess, it really is.

795
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: So were the Reds mess?

796
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 6: Well, the Reds aren't a mess, but they still need

797
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 6: a power hitter. And I knew, damn well they weren't

798
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 6: going to go out and signed Carl Schwarb or let

799
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 6: us Man was not going to add thirty million dollars

800
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 6: to the payroll. And I just laughed. I just laughed

801
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 6: at these these know it all writers posting stuff up

802
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 6: and something would stick that the Reds were interested. Kyle

803
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 6: Swarber was never leaving Philadelphia. GM Dave Dombrowski said from

804
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 6: day one that they wanted him to stay, that he

805
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: was important to the team, that he loved Philadelphia, and

806
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 6: they went out and took care and signed and signed

807
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 6: him to a five year, one hundred and thirty million

808
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 6: dollars deal. The Reds weren't going down that road. The Pirates, supposedly,

809
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 6: if you could believe these know it all writers, offered

810
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 6: him one hundred million dollars over four years. Maybe they did,

811
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 6: I don't know, But the Reds they weren't gonna they

812
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 6: weren't gonna add thirty million dollars to the payroll. Come on,

813
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 6: that's not gonna happen. I'm not going to do it.

814
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: Well, think about the Reds experience of the last thirty

815
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 3: years of big time contracts and how those have wound

816
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 3: up working out for the Reds.

817
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I don't blame the Reds. Yeah, newskis Homer Bailey,

818
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 6: I mean just down the line.

819
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, and I understand Jeremy came, Jeremy Candelario.

820
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: They still gotta pay.

821
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand them.

822
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 3: With the history and the sentiment and the playing of

823
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: Ken Griffy Junior.

824
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: But junior.

825
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: I mean, really, for the money that they had to

826
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 3: pay kN Griffy Junior, was he really worth that? I mean,

827
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: you love kN Griffy Junior, great player, all well, all star,

828
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: you know, Hall of Famer, but still, I mean you

829
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 3: pay that kind of money just on the back.

830
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, well they deferred that money. Gary Jeff and Ken

831
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 6: Griffor J's offense. The guy hit two hundred and ten

832
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 6: home runs here, not like that. You know, he didn't produced.

833
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 6: He did produce, But the Reds had no pitching. The

834
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 6: Reds had they had Steve Paris and a couple other bums.

835
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 6: They had no pitching. It wasn't Ken Grippy's fault that

836
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 6: they weren't winning games. They had no pitching when they

837
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 6: brought Ken Griffy Jr.

838
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 5: In.

839
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 6: And that's on the Reds of not being able to

840
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 6: make trades or develop pitchers. Ken Grippy Jr. Did his job,

841
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 6: not to the extent that when he was in in Seattle,

842
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 6: but you know, he had a pretty damn good career

843
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 6: with the Cincinnati Reds.

844
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: The last two minutes wild Man back to the Bengals.

845
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 3: Just for a moment, I heard someone, I think it

846
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: was a caller blaming Joe Burrow for the loss to

847
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: the Bills on Sunday, and.

848
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 6: Well, he needs he needs to put down and stopped

849
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 6: smoking those math blunts, because.

850
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: I think that was aine comment.

851
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the thing that really still burns me

852
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 6: to this threat now, Gary jeff with the with the

853
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 6: Bengals is when Josh Allen was able to run not

854
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 6: once but twice, once for a touchdown on scathed and

855
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 6: the other time for a first down in the game.

856
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 6: Why they did not have a so called spy on

857
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: Josh Allen. You know what he's gonna do. It's it

858
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: just wasn't the first time that he'll try to do this.

859
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 6: And here's here's Zach Taylor, the head coach of the

860
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 6: Cincinnati Bengals. What is he doing when the defense is

861
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 6: on the field. Is he coaching? Is he looking at things?

862
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 6: Does he see anything? Does he talk to Al Golden

863
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 6: and say, hey, we got to have it a spy on?

864
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 6: Uh on Josh Allen. I don't get that at all.

865
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: I mean I blame a lot of that on the

866
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 6: head coach of not having these guys you know, prepared

867
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 6: or you know, you gotta be thinking outside the box

868
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 6: and not to have a spy, not to have a

869
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 6: spinal Josh Allen was just so dumb, just.

870
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: Dumb, wild man.

871
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: I agree, But at that point, we gotta go, We

872
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: gotta go, We got to go.

873
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: We got to go, man, we got to go.

874
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 4: Well.

875
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 6: Always good talking with.

876
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: You, man, you two merry Christmas. Will probably have another

877
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: bi bite at the Apple next week. Here on the

878
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: Nightcap on seven hundred w A into another hour of

879
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: the night Tap. You're on seven hundred WLW and it's

880
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: another edition of great American history on the radio, and

881
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: we have another living piece of that American radio history

882
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: with us for this hour, and it's somebody that you

883
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: may not have ever heard of in Cincinnati. I don't

884
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 3: know if you're listening here in the Tri State. If

885
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: you're listening in Middle Tennessee, no doubt, and you're a

886
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: sports fan, you've heard this guy or heard of him

887
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: at least. But he was one of the voices that

888
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: kept me entertained when I lived in the Nashville area,

889
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: worked there on the radio, and lived there, and he

890
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: was also on the radio there for many years as

891
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: the play by play guy for Vanderbilt Sports primarily I

892
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 3: guess basketball, but football too, Georgia correct me, he needs

893
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: to and and then a sports talk host at several stations.

894
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: He went on to do games for Memphis State at

895
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: at a later date, and he is still active today

896
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: doing podcast and such, and tonight he's doing mine.

897
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: George Plaster, the master.

898
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: Plaster Blaster is back if he if he spoke French,

899
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: he'd be Plaster of Paris, I'm certain.

900
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: But the puns. But the puns out of the way,

901
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: George Plaster.

902
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 7: Welcome to the nightcap, Gary Chef Walker, the pleasure is

903
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 7: totally mine. First of all, you're sitting there on one

904
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 7: of the great radio stations in this country. I'm one

905
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 7: of those radio junkies just like you were. And as

906
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 7: a kid I grew up listening to w l W

907
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 7: Marty Brenneman show, nusall. I even am old enough to

908
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 7: remember al Michaels. You all had or and probably still have,

909
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 7: some of the best imaging that I have ever heard

910
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 7: in radio. Whoever the guy is that does the big one,

911
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 7: that is one of the best imaging.

912
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: Going in radio period, Well, sounds like you were auditioning

913
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: there for a second, Georgia, maybe there's a slot open

914
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: for you.

915
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 6: The Big One, No, you know what, Big One.

916
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: That is part and parcel of the fact the WLW,

917
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: as you may or may not know, actually broadcast with

918
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand watts at one time back in the

919
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 3: nineteen thirties, we had the first and only experimental half

920
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 3: million WAT transmitter. So that's part of the Big Big

921
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: One mystique. But another large component of that was when Andy,

922
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: when Randy Michaels came here in the nineteen eighties, and

923
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: shape at that time WLW was kind of drifting. It

924
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 3: was playing music. It was kind of middle of the road,

925
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: top forty music, and they still had the farm reports

926
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 3: in the morning and all these other things were going on,

927
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: but it wasn't the block formatted talk station that it

928
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: is today. And Randy Michaels kind of changed all that

929
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 3: in the mid nineteen eighties, and he wanted that bravado emphasized,

930
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: and he wanted that the Big One to you know,

931
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 3: shout across the valleys into the hamlets. And because the

932
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: signal just goes everywhere, it's a monster signal, as you know,

933
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 3: and you're right about the voices that have graced these

934
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: airwaves over the years. I mean, I am completely humbled

935
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 3: and going what am I doing here? Almost on a

936
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 3: daily basis, George, But you mentioned Marty Brenneman, the old

937
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: left handed Joe Nuxell, al Michaels, who you can still

938
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 3: hear on Sunday Night Football on NBC, the late Bob Trumpy,

939
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: probably one of the deepest voices ever to grace the

940
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: big one. He was called, he was called, he was

941
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: called Darth Vader. You know, Chris, Chris Collinsworth got his

942
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 3: radio start here, and on tonight's show earlier, I spoke

943
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: with my buddy Andy Furman, who was a long time

944
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever met or heard.

945
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 7: Any Oh sure, oh absolutely, Andy's great. That name another one, Cunningham.

946
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: Here, Bill Cunningham.

947
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 7: Those are yeah, it's a little bit like KMOX and

948
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 7: Saint Louis where radio junkies who know anything about fifty

949
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 7: thousand lock clear channel on the AM dial are These

950
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 7: are the great legends, and.

951
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: Many of them are in trouble.

952
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: I mean WLW has survived and actually thrived. I mean

953
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 3: in the market, listenership, advertising, all of those things. We're

954
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: still right there, thank God. But there are a lot

955
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: of those fifty thousand watt stations that have gone for

956
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: one reason or another, not just technological, but other reasons.

957
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: They've gone by the boards, and they're not the monsters

958
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 3: that they used to be.

959
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: Used to be.

960
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 3: On one of Nashville's fifty thousand waters on fifteen to

961
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: ten WLAC, I think that's where I probably heard you

962
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 3: calling Vanderbilt basketball games and occasionally doing some sports talk there.

963
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 3: Tell me about WLAC back in the day and your

964
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: work for Vandy. Of course, you know from my twenty

965
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 3: years in Middleton to see, I'm still a Vandy fan

966
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 3: and I've been just loving what's digging, what's been going

967
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: on this season. Tell me about your day's calling play

968
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 3: by play for Vanderbilt. Who's who is the best Vandy

969
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: basketball player you ever called a game for?

970
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: When you were there? While you were doing.

971
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 7: It, Will Purdue, it was at a time where Vanderbilt

972
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 7: basketball had sort of taken a little bit of a

973
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 7: dive and the legendary C. M. Newton was the coach.

974
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 7: Sam Newton became for me like a second father, finest

975
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 7: man I've ever met in athletics, just a very decent

976
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 7: human being, and he had the foresight to sort of

977
00:52:55,480 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 7: fight through letting Will Purdue develop, and by Will Purdue's

978
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 7: junior year, you know, here's a seven footer that ultimately

979
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 7: gets drafted. I think it was ninth in the in

980
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 7: the I guess it was the eighty nine NBA draft.

981
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 7: He and Rick Smith's were the two big centers. And

982
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 7: Will lives in Louisville right now. We've stayed really good

983
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 7: friends over all these years. But I would say I

984
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 7: would say Will Purdue. Barry Goheen was another one who

985
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 7: I know you've had on your show before.

986
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: We called him.

987
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: We called him me and my friends who were Vandy

988
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 3: staunch Vandy basketball, called him Barry go In because it

989
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 3: seemed like a crucial situations if he had the ball

990
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: in his hands, it was going in.

991
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 7: He hit about six buzzer beaters in his career, one

992
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 7: of those being a three pointer at the buzzer in

993
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 7: the NCAA tournament. While that was going on, I was

994
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 7: at what at the time was Memphis State and we

995
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 7: roll into Cincinnati in the old Cincinnati Garden. This would

996
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 7: have been in January of nineteen eighty eight, and there

997
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 7: are two people in the arena two and a half

998
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 7: hours before the game, me and a guy named Marty Brenneman,

999
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 7: and I spent about fifteen minutes getting up the nerve

1000
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 7: to go up and speak to him and just say, Hey,

1001
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 7: I'm a huge fan, I've been listening to you for years,

1002
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 7: and he could not have been more gracious. This sort

1003
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 7: of spawned a friendship over the years. And you know,

1004
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 7: you talk about the great signal at WLW, my buddy

1005
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 7: Eli Gold, who was the longtime play by play voice

1006
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 7: of the Alabama Crimson Tide, calls me in the summer

1007
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 7: of two thousand and six. I was having some really

1008
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 7: serious voice issues. That was basically a pull up on

1009
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 7: a vocal cord, and he goes, get to a radio,

1010
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 7: get in your car. Marty is about to say hello

1011
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 7: to you and wish you a speedy recovery. And that

1012
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 7: was so cool. You know, Marty didn't have to do that,

1013
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 7: but not only a Hall of Fame broadcaster, but a

1014
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 7: guy whose friendship, boy, I have really enjoyed over the years.

1015
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: One of the first things that I heard as a

1016
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: young adolescent and teenager when our family moved to Nashville

1017
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy three, seventy four, dating myself. Here was

1018
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: Vandy basketball in the radio, and you know, I was

1019
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 3: a dx er. I was a radio geek like you

1020
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 3: reference being as a kid, I wanted to tune into

1021
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 3: far away stations. I found this local station and I

1022
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: love basketball. I was just starting to play and I

1023
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 3: heard Vandy basketball, and for some reason I was just

1024
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 3: captivated and became a fan. And this was the days

1025
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: of Terry Compton and you know later on Butch Fear

1026
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: and Jeff Fosness and all these great names in Vandy

1027
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: basketball or and I got hooked into listening to the

1028
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: broadcast and that's how you know, years later I got

1029
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: to hear George Plaster doing play by play on the air.

1030
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: And so wow.

1031
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 3: But that being said, you and I were talking about

1032
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 3: tuning in d x ing. And by the way, the

1033
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 3: things that you said about C. M. Newton, everyone that

1034
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 3: I have known, including our mutual friend Scott Droud, has

1035
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: said the same thing about CM. He just had that

1036
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: kind of effect on people where you felt like he

1037
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 3: was he was a wise and soul. He was like

1038
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: a second father. He was just that guy you could

1039
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 3: go to if you had something going on. And Marty

1040
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: Brenneman has never been anything but absolutely generous with his

1041
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: time and nice to be around. And you're right, Marty

1042
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 3: will say or do anything, especially if it's for you

1043
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: and he knows you. He was my first guest when

1044
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: I started doing this night show on seven hundred wup,

1045
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 3: my very first one.

1046
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: YEP.

1047
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: I said, I want Marty as my first guest, and

1048
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: he agreed to come on for a few minutes. But so,

1049
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: I mean, talk a little bit, or let's talk a

1050
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 3: little bit, George about what is going on with the

1051
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: Vandy football program. Since you're still there in Nashville, you're

1052
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 3: still close to the action. I mean, what are your

1053
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: thoughts on the season that Clark Lee and Vandy just

1054
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: concluded what kind of bowl game they'll be playing. And

1055
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 3: it's a damn travesty that they couldn't pull that game

1056
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: out against Texas or they'd be one of the twelve.

1057
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: I know they would, Yeah, but the whole mystiq of

1058
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 3: Diego Pavia, who I said reminded me a lot the

1059
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: way he played and the success he had of a

1060
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: Johnny Manzel, and I find out later on that they're

1061
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 3: kind of hanging out as buddies.

1062
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: But anyway, your thoughts.

1063
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 7: George, Yeah, let's start with Pavia. I don't know that

1064
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 7: Pavia is gonna win the Heisman Trophy. My gut feeling

1065
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 7: is it's going to be Fernando Mendoza at Indiana, but

1066
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be very, very close. It

1067
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: royally hacked me off Saturday night. Two announcers that I

1068
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 7: really like, Us Johnson and Joel Kladd on Fox were

1069
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 7: total shills for the Big Ten in that telecast, which

1070
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 7: was a Big Ten title game. But this hole, the

1071
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 7: Heisman Trophy has come down to Fernando Mendoza and Julian saying,

1072
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 7: give me a break, Diego. Pavia has earned the right

1073
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 7: to be put in that conversation, and for those two

1074
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 7: to have the platform that they did Saturday night and

1075
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 7: act like he didn't exist. I don't want to be

1076
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 7: ugly about it because Joel saying the kid at Ohio

1077
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 7: State is a fine quarterback. Do I believe that he

1078
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 7: could get under center at Vandy and lead them to

1079
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 7: a ten and two record. Absolutely not. I'm not trying

1080
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 7: to be a homer, but Bandy football has never been

1081
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 7: an easy deal. So go back a couple of years ago,

1082
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 7: Clark Lee, who's their head football coach, hired Jerry Kill,

1083
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 7: who had been the head coach at New Mexico State,

1084
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 7: and I don't really know why he was willing to

1085
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 7: leave there, but Clark Lee talked him into coming Andy.

1086
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 7: They also brought their offensive coordinator, Tim Beck, and then

1087
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 7: they started talking about this kid, Diego Pavia. And Vandy

1088
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 7: had already signed a kid, Nate Johnson out of Utah

1089
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 7: who couldn't throw a lick, and Jerry Kill kept on

1090
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 7: them about need to see this kid, Diego Pavia, and

1091
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 7: finally Clark Lee said, Okay, you know, let's bring him

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01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 7: in here. Well, I had seen Diego Pavia in the

1093
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 7: Conference USA ESPN Tuesday and Wednesday night games, and I

1094
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 7: knew he was for real. Now, I didn't know he

1095
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 7: would have this kind of impact because he has walked

1096
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 7: in there, and I think there are a couple of

1097
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 7: things he's done. The obvious is what you see when

1098
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 7: you watch his games, which is he's elevated Vandy to

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 7: a level nobody ever saw.

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01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: You want to talk about a quarterback carrying a team

1101
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 3: on his back, absolutely, that's the definition.

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01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: George.

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01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: I tell you what I need to break up, come

1104
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: back and join me in the next half hour and

1105
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: we'll do more of this. George Plaster fantastic sports guy

1106
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 3: out of Nashville, Tennessee, where I first heard him, and

1107
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: he's been gracious enough to stick around for another segment

1108
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW. Time for part

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 3: two of our conversation with George Plaster. It's American History

1110
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: on the radio, and hopefully we're making some tonight. I

1111
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: don't know if this broadcast is going to go in

1112
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 3: any Hall of Fame, but we were talking about Diego

1113
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: Pavia carrying Vanderbilt literally on his back this year to

1114
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 3: a ten and two record, and he really really should

1115
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 3: have been the Heisman front runner of everybody I watched.

1116
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: You're referencing Julian Sands, the freshman at Ohio State, and

1117
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 3: I got a lot of buddies who are Buckeye fans,

1118
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: but I'm sorry, he has done nothing to deserve to

1119
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: be striking that pose on a trophy. And I mean,

1120
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza, I'll give it, you know, kind of had

1121
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 3: the same effect on Indiana along with that whole team.

1122
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: But Diego Pavia is a one man wrecking ball. Any

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01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: other thoughts, real quickly on that and we'll move on.

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01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the contribution he made that never gets

1125
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 7: talked about. I'm convinced he walked in there a year

1126
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 7: and a half ago to a program that was used

1127
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 7: to losing, and when that happens in a locker room,

1128
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 7: losing doesn't hurt. Losing's okay, losings acceptable. And I think

1129
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 7: he walked in there and said screw that. I didn't

1130
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 7: come here to lose. And I think he's done more

1131
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 7: to change the attitude around their football program. And I

1132
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 7: think it's almost as big a contribution as what he's

1133
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 7: done on the field.

1134
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 3: H Yeah, I didn't think about it in that terms.

1135
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 3: In those terms, but yeah, you make it. You make

1136
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: an excellent case for the intangibles that a player like

1137
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: that brings into a program that, again, as you mentioned,

1138
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: is parenally moribund.

1139
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: If not to be more.

1140
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 3: Diplomatic, I guess, George, I wanted to ask you too

1141
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 3: about and you said you were a radio geek as

1142
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: a kid growing up like I was. What was your

1143
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: favorite DX moment You reached out and you heard a

1144
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: far away station and you just were kind of.

1145
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: Entranced by it.

1146
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 3: For me, it was a station like WLS in Chicago

1147
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 3: because we used to live in suburban Chicago when I

1148
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: was very young, and I got hooked into Ready. In fact,

1149
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: that's where I got built with the bug. At seven

1150
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: years old, I said, I want to be one of

1151
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: those guys. But was there a classic station that you

1152
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: heard or a personality that you heard and it just

1153
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 3: kind of sparked your imagination to an extent that you

1154
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 3: wanted to be like that guy.

1155
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was two of them. It was the one

1156
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 7: you're broadcasting on right now because it's easily you know,

1157
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 7: you can easily pick it up in Nashville if you're

1158
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 7: in the car in the winter by probably five o'clock.

1159
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 7: Same thing with KMOX. Camox had this young guy who

1160
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 7: was like twenty two years old, and he used to

1161
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 7: do this midnight sports report and I thought he was

1162
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 7: the best I had ever heard, but at the time,

1163
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 7: nobody had ever seen it. His name was Bob Costas.

1164
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 7: So fast forward all these years later. I put a

1165
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 7: call into Bob Costas last year. I wanted to talk

1166
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 7: to him about where he thought Nashville is as far

1167
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 7: as expansion in Major League Baseball, which supposedly is coming,

1168
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 7: and I left him a message, I said, I grew

1169
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 7: up listening to you. I actually called your talk show

1170
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 7: one night, and so he sent me a message back

1171
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 7: saying give me a and I said, oh yeah, I said,

1172
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 7: I remember the number four, three, six, seven, nine hundred.

1173
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 7: He said, do you remember the enterprise number? I said absolutely,

1174
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 7: nine eight o eight. He goes, you're legit. Talk to me.

1175
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: The first time I ever heard Bob Costas, he was

1176
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: doing play by play for the Spirit of Saint Louis

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01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 3: in the old Aba.

1178
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Marvin Barnes, Ernie d. Gregario, bad News, Barness, Gerard.

1179
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: Freddie Caledwell, oh my god.

1180
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 3: You know the famous story that Costas always tells about

1181
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,479
Speaker 3: Marvin Barnes getting back on the plane in Louisville after

1182
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 3: playing the Kentucky Colonels but wouldn't get on the plane.

1183
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: You know that story?

1184
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 3: No, No, okay, Bob Costas tells a story of Marvin Barnes,

1185
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 3: who again had been drafted early. And I think he

1186
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: was a freshman at Providence or sophomore and then he

1187
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 3: came out whatever the deal was. He wasn't exactly a

1188
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 3: Rhodes scholar, Marvin. Anyway, they get done with the game

1189
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 3: against the Kentucky colonels in Louisville, and they're getting ready

1190
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 3: to get on the plane to go back to Saint

1191
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 3: Louis and Marvin's nowhere to be found. And Freddie Caldwell,

1192
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 3: point guard, is running around the airport frantic, trying to

1193
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 3: find Marvin to get him to get on the plane

1194
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 3: because it's getting ready to take off. He said, Marvin.

1195
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: He finds him in the concourse. He said, Marvin, the

1196
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: plane's taken off. He said, no, I'm gonna find my

1197
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 3: own way home. I ain't getting on a plane. He said,

1198
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 3: why aren't you getting on the plane, Marvin. And Marvin

1199
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 3: pulled out his plane ticket, but it said very specifically,

1200
01:07:55,600 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: departure eleven fifty five pm, arrival eleven fifty pm.

1201
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: I ain't getting on No damn time machine.

1202
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 7: That's beautiful. That's hilarious, But that's there's a.

1203
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: That's a that's a classic costas there.

1204
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 7: There's a book out there for people that are old

1205
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 7: ABA lovers. Terry Pluto wrote it. It's called Loose Balls.

1206
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 7: And I had Julia serving on one time. It's one

1207
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 7: of the best interviews that I've probably ever done, because

1208
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 7: I got into the old Aba stuff and Doctor J.

1209
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 4: Loved it.

1210
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: Oh, Doctor J was my hero when I was a

1211
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 3: playground warrior George growing up. You know this, this is

1212
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 3: the mid seventies. I'm watching Doctor J. In fact, I

1213
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 3: had an afro the size of In fact, my afro,

1214
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 3: my white afro, may have been the size of Darnel

1215
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 3: Hillman's afro if you remember him. Oh my, that just tall,

1216
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 3: tall Tall picked out afro and I you know, I

1217
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: tried to mimic all their moves. Of course, I didn't

1218
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 3: quite have a vertical jump of forty inches, especially as

1219
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 3: a fourteen year old, but I kind of imagined I

1220
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: did and was doing all these whirling dervishes in the

1221
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 3: lane and scoring occasionally when I didn't hit the bottom

1222
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 3: of the rim. But I thought I was Doctor J,

1223
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,839
Speaker 3: or aspired to be Doctor J. So he was always

1224
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 3: When he finally got that NBA ring, I was like,

1225
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 3: I was cheering him on.

1226
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, so I love Doctor J. What was he like?

1227
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: What was Julius irving like?

1228
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 7: Well, I've only I've had him on the show one time,

1229
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 7: and I would describe it as one of the coolest

1230
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 7: interviews because he really seemed to get into the fact

1231
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 7: that I knew a lot of the ABA stuff, And

1232
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 7: the truth of it is, I just read that book

1233
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 7: that I was referencing earlier, and so it was all

1234
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 7: top of mind. He really seemed to appreciate that. It's funny,

1235
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 7: you know how it is when you do interviews and

1236
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 7: you know you're not sure whether it's gonna go right,

1237
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 7: or whether the person really is getting into what you're asking,

1238
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 7: and then all of a sudden, you throw some magic

1239
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 7: question out there and the thing just takes off. It's

1240
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 7: the beauty of interviewing.

1241
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,719
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.

1242
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 6: You know.

1243
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 3: I had the chance to interview Will Purdue, your favorite

1244
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 3: ever Vandy basketball player that you watched and called, and

1245
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: it was a fantastic I've interviewed the guy I call shooter,

1246
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 3: Scott Droud, who when he graduated from Vanderbilt and for

1247
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 3: many years afterward, was the NCAA leader in three point

1248
01:10:56,439 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: field goal percentage of over fifty percent. Yeah, you know

1249
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: he had because Scott came in right as the three

1250
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: point shot was implemented in college basketball, and he lives

1251
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 3: locally here. He told me some stories about you coming

1252
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 3: to visit here, George, and some some I don't know

1253
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 3: if we can tell. In the air, but apparently you

1254
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,480
Speaker 3: have you have an affinity for going to the casinos.

1255
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 7: I've been known to uh to enjoy it, and Scott

1256
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 7: seemed to enjoy it with me. It was a couple

1257
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 7: of years ago. I try about once a year to

1258
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 7: come to Cincinnati. I am a huge baseball fan. Yeah,

1259
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 7: I'm a big Atlanta Braves fan, but I love I

1260
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 7: love the Cincinnati baseball vibe. Two years ago, I guess

1261
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 7: two three years ago, the Reds were in the middle

1262
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 7: of a ten or eleven game winning streak and they

1263
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 7: beat the Braves that night in a classic slugfest. It

1264
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 7: was like eleven to ten. And we went over to

1265
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 7: the casino, the Jack Casino, right after that, and the

1266
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 7: place was absolutely packed, and I was like, this is

1267
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 7: what happens when your team is winning. Downtown's buzzing. You know,

1268
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 7: all the merchants are happy. Cincinnati is a great baseball city.

1269
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 6: And I saw earlier today.

1270
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 7: The rumor was that Kyle Schwarber might be coming to Cincinnati,

1271
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:37,799
Speaker 7: and it didn't work out that way and he instead

1272
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 7: resigned with the Phillies, which is too bad because I

1273
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 7: would love You've got a great manager in Terry Francona

1274
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 7: no doubt, a class act, one of the three or

1275
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 7: four best managers in the game. And I'm telling you,

1276
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 7: in the next year or to something really good's gonna

1277
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 7: happen with the Reds.

1278
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 3: Hum well, I mean, remember you heard that it as

1279
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,760
Speaker 3: long as The one thing I noticed this season, as

1280
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 3: opposed to last season with home games is that while

1281
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 3: the ultimate final result wasn't good enough to be in

1282
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: the playoffs, they were still challenging the last week, but

1283
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: there were more fans in the seats than there had

1284
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 3: been previously. And I think part of that was. Part

1285
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 3: of that was Tito and his presence and his influence

1286
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 3: on the ball club and the fans. I think they'd

1287
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: grown a little bit weary of the losses under David Bell,

1288
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 3: and when Terry Francona was named manager, that made a

1289
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: difference in ticket sales and butts in the seats man

1290
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 3: can translate to wins on the field and vice versa.

1291
01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 7: Obviously, I don't pretend to know him real well. The

1292
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 7: Baseball Winter meetings had been in Nashville several times, and

1293
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 7: they've been at the opry Land Hotel, and as you know,

1294
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 7: that's a hard place to get around. Oh yeah, So

1295
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Speaker 7: we have him on and he ends up showing up

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Speaker 7: about five minutes late and just profusely apologizing. And I said, Terry,

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Speaker 7: I said, nobody who doesn't live here can find anything

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Speaker 7: in this place. I said, the fact that you made

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Speaker 7: the effort to be here, I said, man, I so

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Speaker 7: appreciate it. I'm a huge fan of his. There's a

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Speaker 7: credibility that he brings to the Reds. Right now, I'm

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 7: telling you the next year to some pretty good things

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01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 7: are going to start happening with the Reds.

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Speaker 3: What are the chances that Nashville does get that MOLB franchise?

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01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 3: Because that was all was something that was percolating under

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 3: the service and Larry Schmid how he got God bless him.

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01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 3: He tried so hard to get Major League Baseball to

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Speaker 3: pay attention. He built that new stadium for the sounds,

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Speaker 3: and you know, every year he's like knocking on MLB's doors,

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Speaker 3: come on, consider us. But for the reasons of proximity Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: Saint Louis, Atlanta, I guess there was a hesitancy by

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball to even consider a franchise in Nashville.

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Speaker 3: But it's I mean, it's a major sports town now.

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Speaker 3: George Plaster. Will Nashville get an expansion franchise in baseball?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I believe we are number one on MLB's list.

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Speaker 7: I think what they want to do is go one

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Speaker 7: team on the East coast, Nashville, and right now I

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01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,440
Speaker 7: think the team out west. The leader in the clubhouse

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Speaker 7: right now is Salt Lake City and Dale Murphy, the

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 7: former Atlanta Braves star, is sort of the face of

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01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 7: the Salt Lake City situation, and so I pay a

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Speaker 7: lot of attention to it. By the way, when you

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:18,719
Speaker 7: brought up Larry Schmidow, he's eighty five years old, still working.

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Speaker 7: He has a bunch of us every Monday morning for

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01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 7: breakfast at a cracker barrel.

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Speaker 1: How about that.

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 7: We have more fun just throwing darts at each other

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 7: and talking sports. And he's an incredible human being. I

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01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 7: had loved getting to know him better. I worked for

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 7: him when I was in college. I was one of

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 7: the Sounds radio announcers. But getting to know him now,

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Speaker 7: it's just been a total delight.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember seeing a lot of up and or

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01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 3: rehabbing National League and Baseball professional baseball stars play for

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Speaker 3: a week or two in Nashville with the Sounds and

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Speaker 3: then players that you never forget, like Steve Bye Bye Balboni,

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Speaker 3: who played for the Sounds for how many years? Just

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01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 3: incredible minor league player who either struck out or hit

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01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 3: a home run. George Plaster, you always hit home runs, man,

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Speaker 3: and I'm so glad that you took the time to

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: talk with us. Next time we'll have to dish some

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01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 3: dirt on Scott Drowd because I know he listens.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 7: Let's absolutely do it. Look, it is an honor to

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 7: be on with you on this great radio station. And

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 7: anytime you want me to come on, if you hit

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01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,560
Speaker 7: the bottom of the barrel and you're desperate, call me.

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Speaker 6: I'm in.

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 3: Well, actually actually droughts on the bottom of the barrel,

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Speaker 3: so you could be next.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we're right there. We're twenty ninth and thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: George. Have a great night. Thank you, God, bless.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Merry Christmas to yours Mary christ.

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Speaker 3: Thank you George Plaster with us tonight on the Nightcap.

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Speaker 3: Back to wrap up,